His name is Squealer!!
>>290363286I always thought what the anime would look like had it been told from Squealers perspective
>>290363690Interesting. How would the final episode work?
>>290363286
>>290363757Nothing would change but I think the audience would have infinitely less sympathy for the "humans" if they had the context from the start instead of it being slowly sprinkled as the series went on.
Did nothing wrong.
>>290363757The Squealer petri-dish was sentient? What are you implying?
>>290363841He failed.
>>290363841he FAILED
This story is so weirdly neutral the more I think about it, Squealer did nothing wrong and was right in trying to free himself and his kind from the tyranny imposed by those with powers.But Saki and the society she lives in also feel like they did nothing wrong in a way, this felt like the only way they could find for humanity not to be wiped out by their kind, they did not cause the wars from centuries ago but they had to find an answer to avoid them.I think keeping Squealer and his kind as slaves was the most immoral part of the whole arrangement, they should have either left them alone or exterminated them allNo one felt evil in this anime
The single thing that I remember about this anime is that there was some forced faggotry in episode seven that made the board explode.
>>290363989It was so much tame compared to the shit you get today, not to mention it served a narrative purposeI doubt anyone would care had the anime aired today
>>290364025I am not trying to make a point. The day the episode aired the board was nothing but shitposts about that. It was amusing.
>>290364058I know, I initially dropped it back then because of the homo shit as well, I only came around watching it in a rainy afternoon years later when I was bored.It really is a great anime
someone post the laughing_girls.jpg with squealer at the podium
>>290363286>Squealer believed all the casualties of his kind were worth it so their future could be better>Human society believed the death and repression of normal humans was worth it so they could preserve their current societyIt was kind of ironic how the humans behaved more like a colony than Squealer and his colony ever did, they were so preoccupied with survival and keeping the herd in place unlike Squealers very humane drive for change and evolution.
Why was everyone in the story in love with Saki?
>>290363817The humans lacking context is important to them being sympathetic though.
>>290364216True, it was just a thought, I still think being presented the story from the human perspective makes it much better
Kiroumaru > Yakomaru
>>290364164There is no "humane drive for change", people strive for personal comfort which can manifest as challenging disadvantageous systems as well as upholding advantageous ones.
>>290364287>KiroumaruBootlicker who ruined everything, fuck him
>>290363974>genuine Squealer defender
>>290364333Yakomaru was the one who ruined everything, Kiroumaru is a hero.
>>290364186Women who try to think instantly become 50% hotter
squeega
>>290363989I watched it completely blind last year and the gay stuff after the first timeskip really caught me off-guard, luckily years of 4chan use desensitized me enough to finish the anime
>>290363974That's the mark of good stories. If you need a villain instead of an antagonist then it's probably not a great story.
>>290364249Is this your personal belief or did you pulls this from the anime?
stupid poo peoplethinking they can stand alongside us, the specials, the only TRUE humansi sentence you to suffer for ten thousand years
Pretty sure Saki explains why they have to be gay in that very same episode.
>>290364629personal opinion, the story being told from Squealer’s side makes it seem too generic for a dystopian story in my opinion, but from the humans side and how "utopic" their society seems on the outside it feels like a better approach imo.
>>290364914Yeah. As a science fiction story it's pretty good and interesting. However the way it's told- revealing new information and peeling back layers elevates it quite a bit.
>>290363286>>290363974>the only way they could find for humanity not to be wiped out by their kind>the only way they could find for humanity not to be wiped out by humanity>genetically modify real humans into molerats so the psychopathic telekinetics who need to be drugged/ conditioned into not destroying reality/ killing everyone around them for shits and giggles can surviveRaman-Klogius bros...are we the baddies?>>290363989it's the only way to stop these lunatics from murdering each other
>>290363891of course it was sentient. they explicitly made it sentient so that they could torture it.
1. Squealer was right2. Cantus users deserved an even greater genocide3. Kuromarou was a beaten coward and a quislingI will not be taking any questions.
There's several layers to this anime and the most infuriating one is the realisation that human potential is vast but it will never be realised even halfway through because of the ineptitude and stubbornness of the worthless majority
>What if everyone with powers turns out to be a psychopathic, mass murdering rapist?Damn, riveting philosophical scenario.
>>290363286Saki's smile when she was still ignorant and innocent.
>>290365791Nothing changes once she learns the truth though, she still lives on with her life and perpetuates the same system
why didn't the society genetically engineer Death Feedback into powerless humans as well, so that ordinary humans would also be biologically incapable of intentionally killing other humans? is this not the logical move?
I remember my friend making me watch this with her. Literally what did she mean by this?
>>290365867Everything about this show is contrived>>290365578
>>290365867Had they done this they would stop being feared and worshiped, they would become just average humans who happen to have some pretty nice party tricks, their entire society is not just built on a way to stop bloodshed, it was built so as to enslave the majority of peopleif they lose the ability to inflict violence upon normal humans then they lose their control over them, which is the reason I laugh when people like >>290363974 think there is any moral equivalence between Squealer and the monsters he was fighting.
>>290365578I've always considered the story to be a bit of an allegory to today's world and mass shootings. It's Psycho Pass-esque, if you will. >rapist?>>290365889Stop quoting yourself.
>>290365954>>rapistRead the history of the cantus users. From the first lock picking serial rapist to the mass raping cactus biker gangs and emperors.
>>290365990>cactusCantus*
I just find it funny the entire premise the sex stuff was based on bad research. Bonobos are only like that towards other bonobos, they're incredibly vicious towards other kinds of primates.
>>290366007How does that contradict the anime? Cantus users are also extremely vicious towards others
>>290365578It's not "what if they all are", the danger is if literally 1 is. Didn't the very first awakened psychic wipe out like half of Tokyo before the military brought him down?
>>290366040Because the research at the time thought bonobos fucked as a form of conflict resolution (which is why its baked into the cantus users). That turned out to be dead wrong.
>>290366048No. IIRC the very first psychic could only move objects. It was the lock picking serial rapist that starts off the backlash against cantus users.
Can I just say that I hate how this anime looks? I don't think I've ever seen a shadeless, more flat-colored anime ever to the point that it had to be intentional.
>no humans cant use powers against other humans because brain washing!>uhh just steal a baby and raise it like a savage to get around iti could have killed everyone in this world because i think everyone is a faggot
>>290366117It was definitely intentional, and I like it that way, it gives it a more unique look
>>290363989Greatest filter in /a/ history
>>290366154Sure, but in the future all the people with your particular mental illness will get caught in the womb through screening and will have your existence aborted.
>>290366387>tfw unlucky enough to not get aborted
>>290365919You're right, Squealer is much worse than the humans he tried to kill. Every time a person was sympathetic to him he deceived and tried to kill them.
>>290363989>forced faggotry in episode seven that made the board explode.>>290364459>desensitized me enoughRelax, anon. There's no reason to be afraid
I remember the homo stuff being explicitly mentioned in an infodump before so everyone's reactions to it happening later were really funny.
>>290369273Proof that there is a huge difference between telling and showing. And that bl is more repulsive than yuri.
I remember watching this weekly with /a/.Loved the show but the anon who kept comparing the queer-rat war stuff to lotr really overhyped it, at least in the way they ended up adapting it. The QUALITY also really didn't help.
>>290365578I won't blame you for misremembering the premise since it was a long time ago.Most psi users weren't psychos, the whole problem was that it takes one single crazy fucker to start a disaster.They thought that the only way to avoid huge disasters while remaining as superior psi users that dominates the origial humans was this stupid system.
>>290363286And he is HUMAN!
>>290370314Counter argument most depictions of cantus users post collapse almost universally is about them being rapist mass murderers. The only (somewhat) sane cantus user group were the scientists.
>>290363286Fucking ningen
>>290370587It was mostly the ruling class and the bandits.
Most based anime in history that /a/ avoided because of shock value faggotry.>Government controlling history>Nazi-level eugenistic control for children failures>Higher-ups pushing LGBTQY+ for population control>Stupid thought gun control system that ends up causing mass murder shooting because everyone else becomes vulnerable>Tyranny level so high that the villain communists commits mass murder and still end up getting sympathy because it was the only one that revolted
>>290370938They should adapt more proper novels instead of LN slop.
>>290370938So it was an unholy mix of our current extreme left and extreme right.
>>290363286Reminder that any hope of a resurgence of anything resembling a human society died with his revolution. The nature of the cantus users totalitarian society, along with the fact that their mere existence keeps fucking up the rest of the world, means that preserving their gay little orwellian village as long as they can is the best they can hope for.
>>290363286This anime gives me a strange feeling like nostalgia but not exactly, like things used to be better in childhood knowing they will change , ignoring the horrific points. The Dvorshak 9th largo now triggers that same feeling. Havent seen anything that had a similar effect
>>290371173Their society is quite literally unsustainable on the long run, they have to keep their numbers low and keep tabs on every single child born just to avoid a psychopath emerging, it only takes 1 fiend to end them all>>290370938dystopian stories lend themselves to whichever ideology you dislike, which is the reason every single person keeps quoting 1984 to make a point regardless of their politics
>>290371744how old were you in 2012?
>>29037178822 , already unc, though watched first time about 5 years ago
>>290366387Born too early, bros...
>>290370938They're turning the frikkin kids gay
>>290363989>forced faggotryI think it's explained better in the books, where, given their stress relief mechanism, homosexual relationships are encouraged for minors to prevent teen pregnancies.
>>290371951You're 36 years old that's like at least 14 more years of being yung
>>290373623>14 more years of being yung4 at best, once you hit 40 it’s overat 36 you should already be married and have a kid or two
'uncs coping
>>290373752Idk what to think man i went to a wedding of a 42 year old man and 22 year old woman the other month and i was like what the fuck am i even thinking everything im thinking is wrong all the time I should just bee myself know what im saying?
>>290365868She wants to roleplay Saki/Squealer sex. Hope you got your teeth ready.
>>290363974>But Saki and the society she lives in also feel like they did nothing wrong in a way,are you an actual fucking psychopath or what??
>>290373856>>290373856NTA but I am in 30s and a NEET. It's over for me.
>>290374067Saki and the people living in the village were not responsible for the crimes of their ancestors, and the system they cultivated is necessary otherwise their village would get wiped out by a fiend.Believing Saki is in the wrong is the same as blaming white people for colonialism
>>290373752>at 36 you should already be married and have a kid or twoAbe-san? It's you?
>>290374442>system they cultivated is necessary otherwise their village would get wiped out by a fiend.It's really not. There would be numerous ways to deal with a single fiend every now then which are not at all explored in the show. You could get around the attack inhibition with indirect fire for example.
>>290374632no you could not, attack inhibition works on intent
>>290374672Saki almost gets killed when a random kid throws giant boulders at her, thinking she's a rat. You could use similar tactics with a spotter.
>>290374442>Saki and the people living in the village were not responsible for the crimes of their ancestorsNo, they're responsible for their own many crimes and atrocities. >and the system they cultivated is necessary otherwise their village would get wiped out by a fiend.The events of the show clearly demonstrate that this is a profoundly flawed system that produces fiends>Believing Saki is in the wrong is the same as blaming white people for colonialism0/10 kys
>>290363286I genuinely cannot tell if I've seen this before, it would have been more than ten years agoAll I think I remember is a secene where boy and girl are trapped in a hanging net and the scene of them being pressed againts each other is kinda horny? Might have been something completely different
>>290363286This anime (light novel) did one thing extremely well that I don't see mentioned often enough.At the beginning, it showcased a horror story from the perspective of the children with adults as the monsters. At the end, it managed to show a horror story from the perspective of the adults, with a child as the monster. Also it's crazy that the protagonist's story ends with her raising children-killing cat monsters that she feared as a kid.
>>290373563It is also explained in the anime but people don't fucking pay attention to the setting
>>290374990That did happen in an early episode
>>290374994>Also it's crazy that the protagonist's story ends with her raising children-killing cat monsters that she feared as a kid.she's such an unremittant piece of shit it's almost shocking, I've never seen an anime protag with so much negative character development. hated her so much by the end
>>290375025Very interesting, it's weird how almost nothing stuck in my memory now that I try to remember, maybe I didn't finish it
>>2903717591984 has a very particular political charge, it's just severely oversimplified and misused.
>>290366387What is this, Brave New World? I don't remember this being an element of the setting.
>>290373623haha already felt old with 20, not so much physically but mentally, in retrospective and in relation to the show I recognize and understand the changes in myself and society, even if I don't like them, kinda like saki herself and with the Ningen final solution. Being aware of those changes and the longing for rusted-golden past times triggers that sensation, also by watching the leaves fall or seeing my face reflected in the screen after a show finishes. I don't know , many other shows made think about life and shit, usually from an intended moralizing angle , but not as a collateral efect existential side like this one did
>>290375083Morally it may not be right but it's the best thing they could do in their current situation to prevent their society from collapsing.
>>290377675Their "society" should collapse, it's abominable
>>290375083>>290375083>unremittantDo you mean unrepentant?
>>290364186Because it's physically impossible for every human being to not fall in love with Taneda Risa.
>>290378526No, it's a synonym for incessant
>>290377027Dont worry about it
>>290374442You could say Saki isn't in the wrong, but it is vexing to see how she went from being a rebel who wanted to bring down the village's oppressive system in the first half, to then watch her becoming just another part of it in the second half. She definitely isn't a likeable protagonist, but then again no character in this anime is very likeable or hateable, and that's what makes this show so unique.
>>290364186Why does no one ask this question when the MC is male?
>>290379789>she went from being a rebel who wanted to bring down the village's oppressive system in the first half, to then watch her becoming just another part of it in the second half.just like real life, why bring down the system that benefits you? she was just immoral as the rest
>>290379789She lost thats what the anime is about she fucking lost its over she fell in line like a good girl she married a faggot and now she has an office job this is the story of every middle aged unhappy sour cunt and there's way too many of them around they're all exhausted, bitter, there's no fight left in them and there's no hope left in their eyes while they delude themselves that they'll do things differently because now they learned that yada yada the old cunt before her was like her and now she's the new old cunt married to a faggot and it's her turn to kill children.
>>290381134>its over she fell in lineshe was predestined to fall in line since meeting the hag, she told her to her face that she wants her to succeed her precisely because of how unfazed and accepting she was despite hearing the brutal truth of their society, Saki was never a hero
Maria didn't deserve her fate.
>>290365867Because, given the opportunity, the point was to create a disposable servant race. That solved the security problem while also creating a societal hierarchy that benefited them. Do you even think before you type?>why didn't the europeans just crack a beer and have a normal one with the ngubus?
>>290363989It doesn’t affect my rating but look if you’re going to lovingly animate the boys tongue kissing then don’t completely offscreen Saki and Maria’s sex scene ya know? Which wasn’t offscreen’d in the LN btw
>>290381536Being nice to her simps doesn’t make her a good person
>>290373271i'll always love saki
>>290374442Did you miss the part where the murder every child that is born healthy but normal, or even those who do have Cantus but below average power levels? How they were committing so much child murder their population was declining at such a rate they were losing the ability to maintain the most basic infrastructure?
>>290382004I don't think the world would ever be ready for a sex scene between KanaHana and Tanechan.
I'll always love the way Shinsekai yori is directed. I think it's about as good as it gets for a lower budget show. Lots of great minds behind this project, like Shigeyasu Yamauchi.The subconscious and supernatural blending into reality; the way history is told like a macabre fairy tale; silhouettes and shadows depicting things humanity is meant to fear. Even the hues of the sky are used as a storytelling device. Very striking visuals overall.
It's nukes it's about nukes there I posted it.
Squealer was fucking right. Free squealer. Total freak genocide.
>>290363286I basically don't remember anything about this anime except this lil' nigga and how he did nothing wrong but losing in the end.
How did Saki kill Squealer after discovering queerats are human? Wouldn't death feedback kick in? Unless she didn't see it as murder
>>290391964They arent human.
>>290391964basic dissociation tactics, she's also breeding the monster cats to kill childeren that fail to pass muster.
>>290391964He was literally a blob of meat.
>>290363989>The single thing that I remember about this anime is that there was some forced faggotry in episode seven that made the board explode.It was literally forced faggotry though, as in the town elders mentally conditioned the kids into it using a combination of psychic brainwashing and regular brainwashing.
>>290394331Yea
The lesbian sex scenes in the manga made me rock hard
>>290396225lol.Legit pornography. Its cool tho, served its plot purpose. Tasteful.
