It's finally out, and OC donut steel characters stole the show. Next movie will be out in 13 more years.
This is your big bad for the day. Say something nice about her.
>Homura loses to muh original cool edgy donut steel gacha ocs despite being a fucking god>Homura gets abandoned by Madoka like a piece of trash because Madoka is a bitch now apparently Cool movie. This the Last Jedi of anime.
>>290490855She cute, and I was waiting for an Orange magical girl.
>People are deluding themselves into thinking this is the end of the story.The ending of the film is basically sequel bait. The entire franchise basically hinges on Homura and Madoka constantly being put in a star crossed lovers type situation. This franchise is getting milked and you are going to like it.
>anyone beating my waifu, devihomuraHow bad is her humiliation ritual?
>>290490943And this is the problem. Rebellion was a perfect end to the series. This just reads like fanfiction
>>290490976To a point where she is abandoned on a bench by Meduca, for the upteenth time.
>>290490759>and that Homura is lowkey the true protagonist instead of MadokaThat's literally been the case since episode 10 of the anime, probably even earlier.
>>290490855Ginger
People (shitposters) are already doomposting without having seen the movie yet. Pathetic.
>>290491004They're both fanfic
>>290490943The abandoned narrative is incredibly forced.
Yuritroons btfo yet againI wonder if this movie will have an impact on the holy statistics
>>290491065Have you?
>>290491004Rebellion would have only been worthwhile if it set up a good final movie. It didn't, so the story now officially ends with the anime and everything else is fanfiction.
>>290490976No one understands by the looks of it but worst case scenario is character assassination on Madoka to make her look like a massive cuntBest case scenario is that everything is actually fine and that Homura won completelyIt's too vague to tell wtf happened at this point
Wait didn't homura VA say she perform because this could be the last time she voice her or something
>>290491114>Homu's red ribbon turns brownif that's true it's over
>>290491119i also heard she's semi-retired now
>>290491119She did but It won't beHomura will return even if Madoka redid episode 12 somehow
Butcher only made 2 tweets about this movie so far. One claiming he wrote the script 15 years ago and one tweet yesterday saying it's coming out today. That should've already been a bad sign since the start, since he's basically saying they've definitely fucked around with the script and he wants nothing to do with the final product now. And most of the video promotions for this movie, including the seiyuu interview last year where they were literally telling you how to feel about Kyubey and Homura's actions, and that Homura is lowkey the true protagonist instead of Madoka, should've massively lowered your expectations. Then they had the OP by the people who sang the Exedra OP instead of ClariS and there is no part in this OP nor the new song "Links" from ClariS about this series that was a leitmotif except from Connect. And then they revealed that the Revue Starlight movie (style over substance pretentious cliche dogshit) director worked on this movie and featured an awful scream by Yuuki Aoi in the latest trailer, as well as basically showing that the 2 new literalwhos defeated Akuma Homura. I didn't want to be correct about this. I really fucking don't. Fuck everything.
Did Kyouko do anything
>>290490784It's out?
>the midcredits scene shows QB in the Witch Library doing a villain speech where he says they finally found the perfect way to harvest energy from magical girls and people think they won't do another sequel
So the movie ends with Madoka regaining her powers and Homura becoming human again.I see very cool. Very original. Very curious what's the next movie gonna be about huh really makes you wonder hmmmm
>>290491173She fights Green Kyouko>>290491217Yeah and Rebellion was better
>>290491241Does she win at least?
>>290491119Chiwa Saito doesn't really do much voice acting these days. The last non returning role I remember hearing her in was a side character in the anime Watanare.
>>290491223The Incubators are the big bad again so it doesn't really matters.
>>290491223>So the movie ends with Madoka regaining her powers and Homura becoming human again.Is that how it ends?I thought Homura joined her in the law of cycles
>>290491257At least she'll be back for Watanare S2.
>>290491235>n theaters. In Japan.Oh. I'll see you in 6 months when I'll be able to watch it then.
>>290491098Yes, I can astral project my mind and predict future events with accuracy
>>290491270Nobody fucking knows because we're all working off of badly translated jap tweets and suspicious discord spoilers
>>290491252Pretty sure yeahGreen Kyouko becomes one of the good guys at the end (everyone but Selma, including Walpurgisnacht)
>>290491270I think people are getting confused at this point. There's barely any coherent information
>>290491300I have the strong suspicion watching the movie won't make it clearer either.
>>290491300From the sounds of it, it doesn't even fucking explained in the movie anywayHomura might have wonHomura might be in the LoC but consciousHomura might be in the LoC like any other girlHomura might've forgotten everythingWho knows, not even the Japanese do apparently
It's intentionally ambiguous sequel bait.
And then the credits show footsteps in different directions and then there's fucking whatever Kyubey is doingSo honestly, we have no idea what any of this means and are just angry at the idea that it's shit, and by the sounds of the rest of the movie - is the most normal reaction we could be making
>>290491172>style over substance pretentious cliche dogshityou are low iq
>>290491119Need AI to copy her voice. I can't imagine Homura as anyone else.
>>290491433except Sean Connery
I hope that it's goodI truly do but it really doesn't like it from the storyAt least we have the visuals
>>290491173Essentially, no
This movie basically confirmed that>Mami and Kyouko are irrelevant side characters >Madoka is not the protagonist and is barely even a character, she's a plot device to use as an excuse to keep making sequels with Homura as the protagonist which is why they keep getting separated.
Based on early spoilers this movie was better than i expected. As long as Madoka is the same Madoka seen in the past movies or series i'm happy. She is amazing.
>>290491420>he fell for pretty colors
>>290491515Mami got to do a big super Tiro Finale alongside Nagisa to defeat Selma.
>>290491551>she's just Trio Finale girl now
>Law of Cycles>The franchise keeps cycling between the same two status quosKino
>>290490784I know there's at least one anon who said he was going to watch the movie in Japan, where is he
>>290491119Voice acting is so important in Japan that there most likely won't be anything with Homura(and Madoka) in it if she retires
>>290491101Honestly this is my thought. Madoka has officially become a franchise that would rather extend itself with useless cast bloat entries with shit writing like Nanoha than give the main cast a definitive ending. I should've known it would come to this when Magia Record ended up being crap and also shoehorned in the main cast as cameos but I was hoping Magia Record was more of a side project helmed by the B or C teams to raise funds and it wouldn't be a predictor of the main story's quality and direction going forward. The cope was nice while it lasted.
Long rant about it if anyone's interested fusetter.com/tw/LTIALH6s?utm_source=explore
>>290491614It's me, I saw the movie. Turns out all the trailers were clever misdirection. The whole movie is actually Homura and Madoka having passionate yuri sex. While the rest of the cast is shown doing random shit with irrelevant side characters. The movie ends with the revelation that Homura was somehow impregnated by Madoka. And Madoka goes to buy milk effectively abandoning Himu on a park bench.
>>290491717Nice to see that the japanese can also do retarded schizo rants
>>290491717And here's a positive one for contrastfusetter.com/tw/3xOULmRJ?utm_source=explore
>>290491119Even if she retires they can always finish the story as a manga
>>290491515>Holy Quintet to Holy TrioMadoka the father, Sayaka the son, and Homura the holy ghost
Did Homura at the very least get to rape Madoka?
I love Homura but I expect Madoka to be important to this film as wellIt's not called fucking Homu Magica
>>290491920She gets gangbanged by the new girls while Madoka watches
>>290491717All of this person's complaints seem pretty valid and on point.
Is Madoka a cunt?
They are turning this thing into a Sayaka Yuri harem!And I'm here for it. This is your Madoka magica now!
Am I wrong for thinking that after the end of Rebellion the sequel was going to be Madoka and co. vs Devil Homura? Like they literally talk about potentially being enemies the next time they meet. Where is any of that? I feel like there was an entirely different movie or series before the events of this movie.
>>290492001>>290491773Crazy how good threads are without you.
>>290491999She certainly has one.
>Kyubey will return in Madoka Magica: Doomsday
>>290491272Hopefully it gets announced after volume 9.
>>290492057Just await the final goal.
>>290490784I think it's clear now that the reason for the delay was that they are in production of the second and third film and are going to hit spring and fall goals for next year.
>>290492051Yeah... I guess the new girls antagonize Homu instead, while Sayaka and co. deal with erased memories but by the time they regain it I guess they've come to an understanding with Homura after hanging out with Devilmura more? I don't know, the spoilers seem to leave a lot of things out.
>>290492128You've been reposting the shit for 15 years. Absolutely insane.
The pamphlet apparently mentions they once planned the new story for TV format but they changed their minds (likely Aniplex or Shaft inner issues)
I just wanted Madoka and Homura to recognize how they are as people, and how they do harm others by their behaviour, and that they aren't evil because of that
>>290492166You chose the wrong fandom to transact empathy, baby.
uh oh
>>290492170>Stuffs a TV series into a movie>It's a messWho'd a thunk it?
>>290492197Forgot mah pic
>Nanoha has a mediocre sequel >Now Madoka does as well What's going on?
Next addition to the Yuri franchise
AnywayHomura did nothing wrong (who knows wtf happens at the ending, but I'm sure she was in the right too) and deserves to be surrounded by people who love her and aren't suicidally retarded
So the series that I always said was shit is shit? You don't say
camrip when
I'm coming to terms with the fact that this was Homuras' one chance and she blew it.
Any cameos from the magia record cast, especially my GOAT Tsuruno the strongest?
How did BingoAnon make out?
is it true that there is homusaya bait in the movie?
>>290492275>blew itMadoka nowayfagged her here too
>>290492280>Any cameos from the magia record cast,I would wager that Butcher loathes them and put it in his contract that they would not appear. I personally see them as nothing more than gatcha fanfiction.I bet my meme here is in shambles. If it held true at all it was only for the original series and MAYBE some of rebellion. The only problem there is that Sayaka isn't angry anymore.
>>290492300Nope. Not even sort of. In fact, Sayaka's main roll in the story is verbalizing how much Homura is in love with Madoka.
>>290492280Lmao I was just about to ask if Tsuruno could solo the devil
>>290490784so is it any good?
>>290492280Nobody cares about any of those irrelevant jobbers.
>>290492356It's sequel bait.
>Concept Movie features Hitomi talking about the magical girls>Shaft CEO originally said Hitomi would play a role in the new project>Hitomi is nowhere to be seen, meanwhile a glorified NPC is created to showcase the new magical system created by HomuraWondering if Hitomi initially had Girl A role, then they scrapped it cuz they couldnt reach her VA
>Homura is a worthless jobber who gets humiliated all movie longKino. The franchise is saved.
>>290492284I'll wait until we've actually seen itEspecially considering that like 5 squares have to do with the ending no one fucking understands
>>290492356I've seen a lot of people saying it's just a cash grab with no actual plot progression and just retreads all the same elements as the end of the TV anime. A lot of filler scenes and a lot of filler dialog that amount to nothing in the grand scheme.
>>290492284I dunno, but this was the bingo made the last couple of threads
>>290492280Who has appeared?
I hope that someone can explain the constant shots of exposed gums that were in the trailers.
>>290492420I'm surprised someone actually saved it
>>290491300Speak for yourself, I'm working off of reddit summaries.
>>290492356By the sounds of it no
The pamphlet cover seems to suggest no Madoka and no devil powers.Better luck next movie, Homu.
>>290492400They clearly shat all over Urobuchi's script >>290491172 Even the whole swan lake motif was scrapped, probably also the song from the concept trailer. And I doubt the whole contrast between Madoka and Homura's definitions of happiness was kept in the final product.
>Madoka almost joins the LoC again>Homura is cheered on by the rest to do something>Next we see is Homura asleep on a bench, Madoka calling her her best friend, and then fading awaySo is that all we 100% know about the ending, right? wtf does it mean
I read that the Homura and Sayaka buddy cope sequence is going to make them the butt of jokes for years to come. Because it's a total nothing burger and their characters are treated so usuriously.
>>290492478Perhaps we should conjure up the 'Chair' since he's nip.>>290492510Another name? Who's Sena?
>>290492356Yuritards hate it so yes
>>290492356From what people have been saying, it's literally just sequel bait that doesn't really tread new ground and is built on the hype that it's been 13 years since we've had a new anime with the original cast at the helm, except none of the original cast besides Homura and Sayaka really do anything.
>>290492481Rebuild-coded pamphlet
>>290491614Just woke up, gonna see it today and report back. Though this thread is making me wonder how good an idea that is.
>>290492395Rebellion was also sequel bait. Didn't stop it from being good.
I just want Homura and Madoka to be happy together :(
>>290492506Sequel bait so that Homura can go searching for Madoka again and we can have another movie.
I heard Sayaka actually got to do shit. But also that Homucifer isn't as strong as the end of Rebellion made her seem. Do they explain why she's Punished Sayaka with all the bandages right now if not because of Homura trying to "leash" her in some way?
>It's finally outIt's not.
>>290492559>RebuildWe speak not of such things here.
>>290492617How isn't Homucifer strong? Are they going to elaborate on this?
Who exactly asked for the cast of new random glup shittos wasting screen time instead of focusing on existing beloved characters?
>>290492639why's homu got her shoulders out like a slut
>>290492520At least they actually get to do stuff unlike the other 3.
>>290492506How do you delay a movie this many fucking times and still end up with the most clearly chopped together rewrite ending where the scenes make no sense and don't connect because they're from different iterations of the script? Not even fucking modern Disney is this bad and they're literally animating shit before they're done writing it.
Did Rebellion threads also have this much doomposting?
>>290492613The series is literally structured so they can't. Homura will give up everything to save Madoka. Madoka will give up everything to save Homura.If either wants to save the other they must give up everything.
>>290492650She apparently leasily loses to like a couple of magical girls because of some asspull
>>290492686This is why Sayaka should be the new LoC; she's the only competent bitch left at this point.
>>290492669Take a wild guess. What's sad is that there are a lot less people now.>>290492687That's some bs even if it's to progress the plot.
>>290490886>Homura loses to muh original cool edgy donut steel gacha ocs despite being a fucking godFuck this is the worst case scenario. Who even gives a shit about the non-main cast?
>>290492669No because Rebellion had a satisfying ending instead of Madoka is a god again and also a bitch lmao fuck Homu
Chenalos and Ken should fight more
>>290492669Oh, it was worse. When Homura flipped the table everyone lost their shit. They saw everything they ever wanted put in front of them and then they took it all away and left them in limbo.This moment captures it all. This is how it should have ended and stayed done.
>>290492669No. They were hype desu. Moreso than they honestly should have been.
>>290492686Except Madoka literally abandons Homura like a piece of trash in this movie. It's character assassination
>>290492722>It should have ended on a literal cliffhanger
>>290492669Yes, but most of it was about whether or not Homura did something wrong then about the overall quality of the movie. Rebellion was considered a good film, at least by the Japanese audience.
>>290492420>nipples in madokashaft is too coward to add those
>>290492721AMANI: It's something like destiny. Except it's entirely up to you. So it's exactly like destiny.
>>290492757https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jZ9IoMqHcY&pp=ygUPcm91bmQgYW5kIHJvdW5k
>>290492420>Homura and Madoka become the loc together Isn't it literally what happens?
>Sayaka gets cucked out of Kyosuke AGAINkek. Will she ever move on
>>290492656Purizo undersutando gaijin san, we needo to seru suroppu to meiku monei
So after 13 long years, is the war on whether or not Homura did something wrong finally over?
>>290492738You mean like this movie?
>after credits scene with qb plotting some bullshit again apparently Literally why did neither Madoka or Homura just kill him? I don't fucking get it
>>290492803This movie shouldn't be the end either
>>290492735That's like saying she abandoned her at the end of TV series.
>complete nothingburger that resolves nothing and introduces a bunch of characters they can add to the gacha
Nip review
>>290492686I like that this film apparently ends in a way where Homura won't be a self-sacrificial retard only for Madoka to fuck her over and leave anywayI think that's what happens but I could be wrong
>>290492780>Thinking Sayaka still gives a shit about Kyousuke after seeing how much of a bad boyfriend he is in Rebellion.
>>290492669Homura becoming Homucifer was the most polarizing point, but few outright claimed the overall movie was shit. Those people didn't like how Homura went back on being accepting of Madoka's sacrifice to suddenly violating her wishes and forcibly trapping her (even if it was due to the fracturing sanity of being in an almost-witch state). Those would also say Rebellion was a fine but unnecessary sequel. I would actually say they were vindicated by how this new movie turned out but I don't think anyone expected Kaiten to be bad in the specific way it ended up being.>Homura is not the big bad and is actually pretty weak despite her "acension" to some higher being>Mami, Kyouko, and Madoka get sidelined>OC donut steels show up for fuck all reason and some are completely unnecessary (the green one)>Another sequelbait ending>Madoka STILL doesn't do shit and remains a plot device
>>290492804You can't kill Kyubey. He's too integral to the system. You can only punish him which was Devil Homuras' best move.
>Mami>Sayaka>Now ChokaKyouko has the highest amount of FFM possibilities out of any character. Literally you date Kyouko you win a harem
Did they even explain anything about Walpurgisnacht?
>>290492882>Literally cries over him at the end of RebellionAnon...
>>290492804>We will return! Don't you understand? WE ARE HUMANITY! We are YOU! In one form, in another form, we are always with you! You can't protect yourself because we come in many, many guises. WE SHALL RETURN!
>>290492831This feels worse Homura had the rest of the quintet + Nagisa, and Chouka backing her up.
>>290492873And next movie Homura will regain her memories and go devil again. Literally endless cycle of milking. Remember to play the yuri gacha.
is there any carpet munching?
>>290492916>Cries over seeing her childhood friend again.Yeah, what of it?
>>290492774Is it?
>>290492916No matter how many times you repeat it it's never going to be true.
>>290492804Who granted the wish that made Madoka a god? Who's still turning girls into megucas? Incubators are and have always been the supreme power in the setting which Madokami was just mooching off of.
Y'know, I've always wondered how this decade corporate suits always go for the worst possible endings for things every time and when anons are doing speculah they always do a better job than what the writers shit out. ALWAYS!>Homura and Madoka get joint custody of LOC while allowing their human halves to live normal non-magical girl lives It was so fucking easy!
>>290492937Nope, the franchise is as het as ever and yuritroons are shitting themselves
>>290492923According to some nips the point is now Homura has friends that support her and understand her, and she realizes she isn't alone so it's fine if Madoka remains in her heart but like, they don't ever interact again I guess.
>>290492699I still think she would crumble at the first opportunity to get Kyosuke back. She is the weakest link. I would even trust hairs-breath-away-from-losing-her-shit Mami more than Sayaka and that is saying something. Kyoko is the real choice. She's the most goals oriented and problem solving natured of the quintet.
I see Majima-schizo is as mentally ill as ever.
>>290492905Someone wanted magical girls to be remembered. Got monkey pawed.
>>290492940She cries over seeing him with another girl because she's in love with him.Those weren't tears of joy anon.>>290492954No matter how much you deny it sean won't change the fact that it literally happens on screen, while none of your yuritroon ships do. And it will forever stay this way. LOL. You lost and all your favorite ships are crack.
>>290492905Yes. In the past megucas did not turn into witches but into monsters and were forgotten. Past not!Madoka wished for them to not be forgotten. Qb fucked her over by twisting the wish into "they become witches now." Then not!Madoka schizoed out and fused with all those who had been forgotten before her wish and they became Walpurgisnacht.
>>290492978>Homura has friends that support her and understand her, and she realizes she isn't alone so it's fine if Madoka remains in her heart but like, they don't ever interact again I guessAbsolute cuck mentality
>>290492984lycoreco is tranime and you should feel bad for watching it
>>290491004The original series was the perfect end of the series. Everything after that was fanfiction-tier. And a confirmation that QB was right all along: suffering of magical girls MUST be exploided for that sweet? sweet profit.
>>290492965what about soulgem kissing?
>>290492983>I still think she would crumble at the first opportunity to get Kyosuke backShe would be God she could literally just take him.
>>290493029>tranimeWho let the /vpol/nigger in?
>>290492961They can't make more sequels for their cash cow franchise that way.
>>290493017OK, so basically that means that Homura can ALWAYS go back to Madoka and say "This is literally all your fault. But I love you, I forgive you, I have to save you, I have to stop you."Truly a cursed existence. delightful
>>290493045>Cum on soulgem
>>290492978This is probably for the best and I say that as a madohomufag (assuming this interpritation is the right one)Madoka doesn't seem interested in helping herself in any real way. Homura has spent fucking years trying to stop this retard from doing one thing over and over again only to fail each time.I don't like it because it feels like character assassination for Homura (also from the sounds of it everyone sans Selma was essentially cheering for Homura to save Madoka, so idk) to let her suffer as the LoC, but fuckin idk maybe even she has her limits Madoka being a plot device again sucks anyway
So, it was good? 10 more years? Mami>Sayaka?
>>290493049lycoreco has niggers and homos, it's literal tranime
The clearly butchered (and probably not Urobutchered) ending sucks ass but I actually like Homu being a little bitch who was just being chuuni and eats shit.
>>290492999You are literally the only retard on the planet that still pushes this series being het. The game this movie exists to shill is nothing but yuri.
>>290493059Corporate greed is fun.
>>290493045Not enough relevant male characters for that to happen
So, were the new Holy Quintet Magical Girl designs just an excuse to sell new merch?
>>290493079>This post is extremely low quality.
>>290493109They will all be alts in gacha obviously.
Now that Homu has been proven a pathetic worthless jobber and has lost her powers Sayaka can dom her in bed.
>>290493047No! She'd end up like Princess Emerald. She will be so overcome with her feelings for Kyousuke that she will lose her ability to maintain the law of the cycle. It's so much worse than that. Imagine being the ONE girl who gets a boyfriend and you have to tell evey other girl, MILLIONS of them by the way that you get to have a boyfriend and they don't. That cycle ain't running. Hell no! Seriously. Mami would do a better job. She just wants comradery and that's all the law of the cycle can give at the end of the day.
>Shitposters aren't even shitposting about the new movie>Everyone else is doomposting I'm glad I stayed awake because if I slept and woke up to this shit I think my week would've been ruined
Whatever man. I'll just stick to my Madokami topping Homucifer doujins
>>290493017I would have done the same
>>290492978Where's my ai yo
>>290492583Rebellion wasn't really sequel bait. It told a complete story (Homu finally losing her fucking mind and raping Madoka). Even if it set the stage for future stories to be Homu vs. Madoka, it didn't leave loose plot threads, and characters arrived at the end of their personal arcs. The new film is massive sequel bait, failing to resolve the plot elements it introduces as well as leaving most characters unfulfilled specifically to set up a sequel or trilogy.
>>290493162ai yo was never romantic, goyjins are just retarded
>>290493067Honestly, and I'm saying this with full fucking sincerity, just introduce Madoka Kaname (male) or have her get with Sayaka or something.She was happy in that doujin with male Madoka, she seems happy in this movie with Sayaka, just let her be with someone who isn't self-destructive for the love of god
>>290493084Homura was always that, it's just decades of Rebellion posting and people misinterpreting Homura as cool in the original show when she was just a desperate autist made people forget that she's always been the lamest out of the cast, and yes, even lamer than Sayaka the jobber.
>>290493126>Mami "Ayeeeee we become witches??!! Let me kill you all and then myself!" would do a better job
>>290493129What were you expecting really? It's a lot of time before we can see the movie, and it feels like a mediocre cashgrab. Most of the thread is anti yuri retard samefagging. And the fact he's not getting drowned in actual discussion means /a/ barely even cares about this. Even the gacha is not doing well.
>>290490784Will this movie finally cause Homucifer doujins to get made/scanned?She has literally nothing
>>290493190It doesn't matter if it's romantic or not
>>290493212>gacha isn't doing wellThe gacha is incredibly garbage gameplay wise and story wise, no shit.
>>290493045I shall make the next Madoka movie. It'll be 30 minutes of action and 60 minutes of me and Kyouko on my bed.
>>290493206Mami was the only one in the original loop with the wisdom to realize the truth and the strength to accept it: that all megucas are inhuman monsters pretending to be human beings. She was also the only one who had the courage to do the right thing, end the cycle of witchification by terminating her friends and then herself.
>Has the most powerful form of love for another human being in history>Lets the person you love fuck off to suffer as the law of cycles again, after everyone tells you to NOT abandon her, because...Can we agree to ignore this shit pile. If Homura loves Madoka in any way (doesn't matter what way just matters that she does) she wouldn't do something like this
>>290490784>>290490784In Homura’s world, they were hunting down magical beasts, but instead of using professional magical girls, they were employing casual ones.Then, a magical girl whom Homura—the agency head—knew nothing about appeared; what’s more, she seemed to be on the side of the Law of the Circle.Homura hastily teamed up with Sayaka and stormed the lair of the new magical girl’s apparent boss; to their surprise, it was a ‘witch exhibition hall’ where witches were turned into witches, and the boss-like figure turned out to be Walpurgis.It turned out the new magical girl was a magical girl (witch) who had suffered as a result of the ‘Circle of Reason’ being established; her aim was to preserve her personality as a witch by destroying Madoka.Meanwhile, one of those who had succeeded in kidnapping Madoka managed to turn her into a witch. By the time Homura returned, it was already too late—if they stopped the transformation, she’d be sent back to the ‘Circle of Reason’!!If she’s going to turn into a witch, we’ll send her back to the Circle of Reason!! After all sorts of twists and turns, it was revealed that Walpurgis’s wish was actually quite similar to Madoka’s!! Joining forces, they succeeded in stopping Madoka’s transformation into a witch.Although she was sent back to the Circle of Reason, because Homura had torn Madoka’s humanity away from it, she had become a mechanical entity!! What’s more, Madoka’s humanity could no longer be absorbed!!Just as Homura was on the verge of giving up, she received passionate encouragement from her friends and managed to restore Madoka’s humanity!! Or so it seemed… but it failed!!We return to the world before the Rebellion & ‘To be continued’ ending>sauce: 5ch anonPost credits scenes are soo confusing, nips don't know whether or not Homura actually saves Madoka at the end
>>290490784I hope Homura died
>>290490784>OC donut steel charactersSo just more Magireco?
>>290490784any word on western release dates? will I be expected to watch the gachashit to understand this?
>>290493206Yeah, she can't handle witches. But she totally understands the law of the cycle. Sayaka bites it and she gloomily accepts that one day her soul gem will burn out. Que Sera - Sera.Law of the cycles fixes Mamis' craziness. For the most part anyway.But that's besides the point. The point is that the best person to step up and take the mantle of LoC is clearly Kyoko and it's not close.
>>290490943Rebellion did exactly the same though.
>>290493270Yes but for Exedra instead.
>>290493196People thinking that someone like Moemura could be cool were delusional. She trying to look cool(Coolmura, Akumura) was just pretending to be someone that she can't be and failed.
>>290493196Homufags get what they deserve.
>>290493301No, it did not. We already went over this. See >>290493166
>>290493279No, you don't have to play the gacha.
So there was no point to it, well I hope it looked nice like Rebellion I guess.
I will be happy regardless if the movie is good or bad if it kill the yuri shipping fandom
>>290493067Obviously tho Homura agreeing with me would be and is character assassination of Homura, i'm just saying from a neutral third party perspective that this is probably what's best for her regardless of the fact she doesn't want it
The Homura downplay is the only bad thing about these leaks
>>290493325No bad ending count as conclusive.
>>290493296Kyouko is someone who never would, that's a mute point. She's dedicated to remaining self-interested, pragmatic, and just surviving in the status quo, not being in charge of a new one.
>>290493334It won't you fucking retard. Homura/Madoka relationship is literally the only thing nips are talking about.
>>290490943>Another franchise i like necromancedFucking hell.
>>290493372Sounds like a bad movie then, if nothing else is noteworthy
>>290490943>People are deluding themselves into thinking this is the end of the story.Who is? Everybody knows it's sequel bait.
>>290493331Apparently the animation is goodAnd the stuff about Walp seems coolAnd uh yeah>>290493372And they fucking ruined it, that's why people are talking about that.
>>290493371>Kyouko is someone who never would, that's a mute pointLOL
>>290493330Obviously not the show but the game based on it
>>290493407They reset things to TV ending so they can keep milking it.
>>290490943It's sequel bait for a film I don't think I want to see being made
>>290493371>She's dedicated to remaining self-interested, pragmatic, and just surviving in the status quot. didn't understand Kyouko
>>290490943Movie exists to shill the game. The problem is game flopped.
>>290493427You don't have to watch magireco gacha anime, and you don't have to play the gacha.
I'm fully fucking convinced that even the retards that populate these threads could've written a better story than Kaiten
>>290493448Sayaka is a special case, I'm talking in general.
>>290493371>She's dedicated to remaining self-interested, pragmatic, and just surviving in the status quo, not being in charge of a new one.At the same time her entire philosophy, what she tries to suppress is a spirit of charity. She wishes for her father. She tries to save Sayaka. She gives her food, which she cherishes above everything else to her friends. It's best of both worlds with her. Practical, goal oriented and survival centralized upheld with a spirit of giving and comradery. If she became the law of the cycle the system would be running perfectly.
>>290493477That's never true no matter the anime
>>290493264>nips don't know whether or not Homura actually saves Madoka at the endWhat's the point anyway since Homura will obviously remember in the next movie
>>290493480>Sayaka is a special caseNo she isn’t.Thanks for confirming you didn’t understand Kyouko.
What a miserable day this was
>>290493492>suppressYes that's the point. Also, we can see that even if she's a nice girl at heart she's not someone who wants to be a savior either, she just wants to chill and help her friends out. I do not think she would willingly step up to be the LoC.
>Homura lostSo today is a good day
>>290493477No because they would have to mention muh yuri in some wayThe staff doesn’t give a shit about shipping garbage and that’s how it should be
>>290493529This really was one of the days of all time.
>>290493520Thanks for your valuable contribution retard
>>290493534>I do not think she would willingly step up to be the LoC.I do agree with that. She would have to be put in the position of 'if you take this on you will lose everything but you will save Madoka and Homura. Will you?' Which I think would be a very fruitful direction for the character. More so than with Sayaka or Mami, surely.
>>290493569Imagine calling anyone a retard after falling for the most obvious character facade ever
>>290490784lets go, sayaka-chan.
>>290493561Indeed
>>290493407>And they fucking ruined it, that's why people are talking about that.No one knows and that's why they're being so vocal.They still can't figure if Madoka returned to the LoC of Homura won.
>>290490784>>290493610So we agree to never again let the Japanese make sequel films after a long running series has been over for years, right?
>>290493602I said in general, dude. Yes, she's nice at her core but she's not a saint. Even when not stressed and not having to be an asshole, she's not the type to be a hero to random strangers like Madoka.
>>290493196>>290493320She's still the best character in the franchise.
>>290493641You have no say on it
>>290490784>Literal who gacha game glup shittos beat up homura>Madokaa friends tell homura she was right and to rescue madoka>She fails>Qh says all according to keikakkuWe waited a decade for this?!
>>290493610>>290493641>>290493264pls tell me which color the ribbon she has is and if it has an unique design or something.
Madoka isn't a person.Homura gives up over everything.Sayaka doesn't mind being a rotten mummy actually.Mami is a girl boss.Kyoko has no more trauma overnight.Nagisa is going through her edgy phase.Kyubey is cool and free to do whatever he wants.10/10!!
>>290493655Yes. Trust the keikakku please.
>>290492978this is wrong, homura has a massive breakdown and gives up, almost letting madoka become a god again until sayaka of all people and the others but selma tell her to save madoka, that she as a devil is the only person who can do it, and that's when homura gets her super devil form and goes to look after madoka , then the ending becomes super confusing because homura appears asleep while smiling on madoka's lap but then madoka calls her her best friend and disappears, presumably to the locthe rest is speculation, some think madoka erased homura's memories of her but not a single reviewer so far understood the ending
>>290493588Kyouko is not that close to Madoka or Homura, it'd be an odd plot point to happen and would just be awkward to watch.
>>290493648lmao
>>290493634Either way there's some level of character assassination happening. I HOPE Homura is now just in the LoC with Madoka being able to go between the LoC and Earth. THAT seems to be the least shit option compared to Homura 'I love you more than literally anyone has ever loved' Akemi letting Madoka go or Madoka just deciding to make Homura forget for the sake of being a cunt for no reasonAnd of course this is just set up for Rebellion 2 where Homura gets to save Madoka for the 100th fucking time
>>290493679>Mami is a girl boss.She always has been
>>290493691I don't see how what you said contradicts the nip's interpretation?
>>290493264To be continued?? Jesus, when will they just finish the story.
>>290493679>Mami is a girl boss.Yeah, she is>>290493691>some think madoka erased homura's memories of her but not a single reviewer so far understood the endingFor what fucking purpose? Homura has been there who understand her, AND CAN'T BECOME A WITCH AGAINSHE DOESN'T FUCKING NEED TO FORGETWHY WOULD YOU MAKE HER FORGET? SHE CAN REMEMBER AND STILL BE HAPPY FOR ONCE YOU ACTUAL BITCH MADOKAWhat the fuck Madoka? Genuinely what the fuck
>>290493560Yuri is the only reason why anyone still cares about this series.
Guys I think we all should calm down and wait until we watch the movie ourselves before judging anything :)
>>290493693Well there is this thing called character development. You take a character who is unwilling, unknowing, incapable or some combination of those things (or even all three) preventing them from completing a task and you have them go through trials and confront their flaws, accept both gains and losses and in so doing bring them to a point of understanding, resolve and ability where they not only feel that they can achieve the original goal, but indeed they are compelled to do so by their own will.It's the centerpiece of storytelling. So I think Kyoko can handle it. The only thing is that the result would end up looking like Puella Magi Kyoko Magica.
>the moral of the story is that Madoka shouldn't have let Homura rememberlolololol
>>290493753Ikkou, Homura-chan.
>>290493781There is no moral. It's just a setup for another movie or series or game or whatever. It's like never ending shonen shit.
>>290493778Sure, but as things are now Kyouko does not have enough relevance or development to back the LoC fanfic idea up. It'd require a movie of her own.
>>290493691I can't wait for Homura to spend a third of the next movie remembering who Madoka was before she can fight KyubeyThis feels like they didn't want to make a sequel to Rebellion so they just made a movie that could destroy everything Rebellion built up I know this isn't true but I shouldn't feel this way
>>290493717>and she realizes she isn't alone so it's fine if Madoka remains in her heart but like, they don't ever interact again I guess.homura doesn't let go of madoka, she goes after her but the madokaless loc attacks her or something and the next scene is the confusing ending with the two at the bench
>Kaiten was butchered >Precure is about to fuck up the season At least an actually good magical girl show can still save this week with its event.
HOMURA HAS TO REMEMBER AND LOVE MADOKA THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT AI YO
>>290490784>WalpurgisnachtThat's not a word.
Ok but kyoko still got something to do right
>>290493814>>290493836ngl Homura just moving on from Madoka with Sayaka would just be the best for everyone at this point.
>>290493843she's greened
>>290493811>Sure, but as things are now Kyouko does not have enough relevance or development to back the LoC fanfic idea up. It'd require a movie of her own.Don't threaten me with a good time. The thing is that Kyoko is shown to be in tight with both Madoka and Homura. It's not as much a stretch as you might think.
>>290493781The moral of Kaiten is that Homura both did literally nothing wrong and needs to be punished because..???I can't see this being rehabilitated like Rebellion, people disliked Rebellion because of the ending while this film tries to say Homura was right and then pisses all over anyone that liked Rebellion's ending. And is also apparently filed with shit outside of the end that isn't great too. I do really hope the animation is good because otherwise I have no hope for this
>>290493848No it wouldn't
>>290493848Sayak is taken
>>290493848Nobody even likes Sayaka no idea why they are pushing her so hard. She's by far the least popular one.
Does the fight is good in this movie
>>290493843Fighting Green Kyoko
>>290493883We all love Sayaka here.
>>290493848For Homura it fucking would be but she wouldn't want that.
>>290493878By Kyouko
>>290493892I saw a comment saying they're good but not as dynamic due to the designs being closer to Ume's. Therefore, harder to draw in movement.
>>290493646She quite literally is, only more similar to Sayaka than Madoka. Her selfish personality was a cope, her true self is heroic and deeply religious. That’s why she saw herself in Sayaka
Sayaka a shit
What if Madoka did all of that but Homura still remembers
It's ok guys. They will explain what the bench scene was about in the guidebook.
>>290493883She's the one I thought I'd dislike the most when I first watched the show. She became my top favorite. Seemed the most human.
>>290493939what color is the ribbon she ends with
>gacha will have a multiple part retelling of the movie>with 3x more details>before EN movie torrents are even out
>>290493921Wrong!
>>290493848There will never be any yurishit of any kind>>290493878She is cucked so no
>>290493939You mean gacha?
>>290492639Delicious Madoka pits.
Wake me when there's a camrip.
>>290493969>She is cucked so no? Kyoko never cucked her
>>290493588Whatever happened to Mami's power up from the concept movie and the posters setting her up against Homura, anyway?Oh right. They rewrote the script.
>>290493969No matter how hard you seethe yuri is the only thing people care about in this entire series.
>>290493954Homura is wearing new brown ribbons since she returned Madoka's ones to her in Rebellion. Her ribbons being brown in that scene means nothing.
>>290494009Bold of you to assume they had a script at all back then.
>Rebellion was 13 years agoJesus fucking christ I feel like I'm losing my mind, I was certain it came out in like 2019/2020 or something
>>290493892Good morning saar
>>29049404415 years since TV series. Hilarious how every time something big happens with this anime we have some massive natural disaster to accompany it.
I was there for the original series airing, I remember (some) Rebellion fans coping "well, there didnt need to be a sequel but as long as it ends good, it'll be fine"and idk, it's hard to be surprised by Kaiten not delivering. the story was literally reopened so they could pump out more sequels. Urobochi's original ending for Rebellion at least tried to be artistic and self contained but it was scrapped so even more films could be made. What did anyone expect from Shaft?
>>290493995Sayaka's love interest is Kyosuke, larperIt's insane how yuricucks don't know the most basic shit about this franchiseThen again they wouldn't be here if they did>>290494011>people*larpers who have never watched it
>>290493814Homura fucked up the LoC real good, huh?
>>290494100>love interestNah, she just admited him as an artist. Not everything is about sex, kid.
>>290494100Imagine being a clown shitposter for over a decade.
>>290494148
>>290494132Sayaka's love for Kyosuke is explicitly romanticHomura's love for Madoka is explicitly nonromanticSayaka and Kyouko are explicitly just friendsCope and seethe LOL>>290494138I don't have to, I know you
>>290493257>end the cycle of witchificationExcept witches make more witches if left unchecked, so Qb will always be able to trick new girls into forming contracts.
>>290494163What the fuck kind of ending is this?
>>290493243It's actually embarrassing how badly this IP was fumbled. Imagine a game where you can make your own magical girl and explore an open world, and then do instances (labyrinths) with a boss at the end.>choose your girl's skin color>choose your girl's outfit>choose your girl's weapon>choose your magic specialty>RP what you wished for and have it on display so other anons can judge you>go fuck up witches, and QB is targetable (he will respawn, don't worry)As a /v/tard, it annoys me we didn't get this mahou shoujo game.
>>290494148Oh wow. Wasu moves fast, doesn't she.
>>290494204Japan can't into good games for a while. Maybe if they hired a chink dev to do it for them.
>>290493264>nips don't know whether or not Homura actually saves Madoka at the endShaft doesn't know either. They left it up in the air so they can pick whatever seems best for the sequel after gauging people's reactions.
>>290494204>It's actually embarrassing how badly this IP was fumbledIt should've ended with RebellionJust don't do anything afterwards there isn't a point
>>290494180Is it ok if Homu smiles while she's on the bench?
>>290494227It's ok, event in gacha game will explain it.
So Homura failed at saving Madoka?Is that what happened?Wtf
>>290494257Nobody knows not even the people who saw the movie.
Was it worth it?
>these threadsSeems like I made the right decision to stop caring about this franchise. Still surprised the movie even got made. Sorry for the people who still care, most of you do not deserve gacha subversion hell, but you all should have known better.
>>290494240She might just be sleepyI don't think she's going to be happy when she wakes up
>>290493296The only thing Kyoko is fit to take is Sayaka's fat cock.
>>290494148>>290494163>>290494180All the spoilers have been pretty consistent, so I'm afraid this is what we have lads. Though it could still be executed well in the movie, so let's wait and see.
>>290494163>>290494180Sucks that Homu got the Eren humiliation ritual treatment. Rebellion made her too based.
I don't believe that butcher had the scripts 15 years ago. But I also don't really care.
>>290494315>futa>>>/d/>No. It's a sex toy.>>>/u/As you can see Sayaka is not in the mood for this shit right now.
>>290494324I don't even think it's comparable This feels worse
>>290494301As long as Homura finally has peace, I'll be happy. Poor girl hasn't legitimately smiled in, forever.
>>290494204Fuck that, give me a PMHQ dating sim instead. Where you play as a guy of course. Possibly with H scenes.
THIS BITCH is why Homura can't be happy
Fuck the redesigns also. Just lame ass fucking shitty designs to sell.
>>290494315Maybe she would do that if Sayaka was a guy
Another bittersweet ending made by japs. You're welcome.
>>290494084This was inevitable when they said that Kaiten wasn't going to be a conclusion. They'll milk the series until there's nothing left and end it in limbo.
>>290494363She's going to remember sooner or later.SHAFT doesn't seem interested in making anyone else the main character and a 5th movie seems guaranteed as long as they don't fuck up the production, again.Homu gets to be abandoned on a bench while she takes a nap, this is her equivalent to a happily ever after
>>290494382She's a sweet girl, I just wish Homura never met her so that she could have peace.
>>290492867>Meanwhile, the automatic repair function of the Law of Cycles tries to absorb Madoka, who has remembered her role as a system. Marguerite, who wished for the same hope, says that if she were Madoka, she would sacrifice herself for salvation again and again. Nevertheless, only Homura, who exists in this universe as a demon that disrupts that order, rebels to reclaim "Kaname Madoka" from the Law of Cycles. Her original wish as a magical girl was to "protect Madoka." Unless Madoka is separated from the absurdity, her wish will not be fulfilled.>After Homura rejects God's rules, Madoka says, "I want you to accept this world even if it's not the result someone wished for," and then disappears. The scene is ambiguous, leaving the viewer wondering whether she stayed or left, but personally, I still want Madoka to stick to her own self-righteous vision of salvation.>The ending leaves a rather unpleasant taste in the mouth, with the Incubator plotting to efficiently extract energy by turning magical girls into witches using Nazuka Sokomoto. A sequel will probably be made.
Copying this summary over from someone who saw the movie, thouthey preface they wrote this late at night and will need to see it again anyway because it's confusing:Beginning (approximate order):The world at the beginning is a Homura surveillance state with magical quadcopter drones and magical cameras everywhere, and homura seems to hijacked the magical girl process cause when girls receive the calling (a ringing phone literally appears in front of them) homura is the one that answersMami, Kyoko, and Sayaka (and maybe Nagisa) do magical girl activities and have an uneasy truce/alliance with Homura who is their grief cubes (?) dealer and seems to know more than she lets on, the three of them keep thinking they need to invite Madoka to their activities before getting confused because Madoka is just a regular non-magical girl transfer student they are friends with... These two things especially bother SayakaThe new characters (I forgot their names so I'll just refer to their hair colours) Purple, Green, and Orange appear in school one day and everybody acts like they were always students which unnerves Homura, especially when Purple singles out Madoka as "Margarita" and gets uncomfortably close (while Green gets friendly with Kyoko and Orange with Nagisa & Mami)Madoka returns to an empty home one day and there are phones literally everywhere, all of them suddenly start ringing for her and Purple is there trying to get her to awaken (?) until Homura appears and they have a fight. Devil homura appears to have the upper hand until magical girl Green and Orange appear too on Purple's side, and Homura loses a wing, and then Madoka snaps back to sitting with her family and hangs up the phone as if everything was a daydream
>>290494100As someone who rewatched the OG series not so long ago I can tell the yuri undertones got overblown but being nasty about it doesn't change anything.Shippers gonna ship and there is a near non existent male cast so yuri is gonna be the focus of the audience even if it does not happen.Sayaka is canonicaly straight but lost to Hitomi so people headcanon she is bisexual and would end up with Kyouko if she didn't die.Madoka and Homura have no clearly defined sexuality but subtext about them being gay is definitely enough to make a strong shipping case.Then there are Meguka from the gacha who explicitly state their love interest are other girls albeit those are not major characters.
>>290494412Is this bittersweet? This kinda just feels sad. Like, I guess the sweet is that Madoka gets to sleep on a park bench like a homeless woman, or maybe it's the fact that this clearly isn't the final film, Maybe that is the sweat part
Can I at least say that Marg is very hot?
>>290494439The plot splits into two at this point, Sayaka goes to confront Homura:Homura gives vague hints and ominous warnings, but Sayaka insists so they walk through a lot of trippy imagery until they reach a library (apparently called Nazukasokotsune?), Kyubey is also there along with Purple girlHomura finds out Purple is Walpurgis (and that's why she looks like her?) and fights some witches without her devil form which doesn't work here, while Sayaka is shocked to find out she becomes a witch somehowHomura and Sayaka eventually escape, also Sakaya is no longer bandaged anymoreMeanwhile the rest of the girls are having sweets party with Green and Orange:At one point cupcakes triggers Green's trauma (that caused her to become a witch?) and she runs off angry that everyone is so happy, and Madoka follows behind to apologizeGreen reveals she is a magical girl and a witch (who was originally saved and is now in despair again?), and attempts to capture a confused Madoka until Kyoko saves her and there is an underwater witch fightEventually Mami & reinforcements arrive and Green is pacified but Orange has captured MadokaClimax of the story (ngl I start to lose the plot around here):The girls reunite while everything goes to hell, orange goes full witch mode, walpurgis is come, and also Madoka's witch returns because of Homura's actionsSayaka goes hikikomori mode briefly, but then Nagisa snaps her out of it with her carefree attitude not caring about gods/devils/etc, and then Sayaka saves the dayFlashback scene with a blond nun character "Margarita" in magical girl nunnery who made the proto-madoka wish to "save all magical girls", then became overwhelmed, fell to darkness becoming walpurgis, forever seeking her own "Margarita" to save her until God!MadokaEventually the girls work together and defeat all the witches (Mami ults, Nagisa defeats orange by means of giant magical kitchenaid, etc.), and Madoka comforts/saves Walpurgis
>>290494484ENDING: Madoka gets gold eyes again and is called to God!Madoka and walks towards her, Homura despairs that Madoka's fate is to always either become a witch or a god until the other girls encourage her saying that she can do something about it as the "devil". There is a brief metaphysical god vs devil fight, scene of Homura lying on Madoka's lap on a bench and Madoka says they'll be together (?), Madoka who was walking towards God!Madoka mouths words we can't hear (gut impression was "sorry"), God!Madoka disappears, Homura is lying alone on the same bench but smiling happily.Post-credits: Sequel hook, Kyubey is in Nazukasokotsune/library and is happy about the experiment
>>290494479Yeahyeah she is
>>290494444>the yuri undertonesdo not exist>Shippers gonna shipStuff that is objectively noncanon>Madoka and Homura have no clearly defined sexuality Wrong>subtext about them being gay does not exist
>>290494444Rewatch Rebellion too.
>>290494479Doesn't show enough skin compared to the others
I hope that the other girls will be pissed at what Madoka did at the end of Kaiten during movie 5Unless everyone has missed something this seems to be the biggest dick move Madoka could've made.I hope it's meant to be unsatisfying
>>290494500That annoying little cat never gives up, does he.
>>290490784This is not a fucking final?
>>290494436Finally someone mentions some dialogue. That's a huge part of what we're missing, even if the movie may be trash.
>>290494353In all seriousness Eren got it worse. Homura's ending is fine it just feels bad because we waited 13 years for this
>>290494569The movie clearly isn't trash and the people being mad at it are simply not the target audience
>>290494561It was said from start. It's just the start!
>>290494436>Madoka never backs downbased...
Did Sayaka even get her memories back?
>>290494324I think Homura wouldn't trade her treatment for Eren's any day of the week. Hers is like a day at the amusement park compared to his nightmare.
>>290494647I think so?
>>290494444>Madoka and Homura have no clearly defined sexualityConsidering the spoilers, everybody should only see Madoka as a normal girl(straight). She said Homura is her best friend in the new movie again after 15 years.Shipping Madoka Kaname with any other girl now is self humiliation.
>>290494507Clearly you can't interpret subtext even if it was a brick thrown at your head.Also you never saw the PSP game where even Hitomi goes gay for Homura in the joke route.
>>290494599>The stuff in the garbage bin clearly isn't trash and the people being mad at being asked to eat it are simply not the target audience
Tbh sounds like the ending to Devilman, which is fitting because Shinbou said Rebellion's confrontation in the hallway at the end was itself a reference to Akira and Ryou. Homura definitely lost and will continue to in any recurrence.
>>290494661It's not like I disagree about gay subtext in the show and movies, but a joke route being gay is not great proof.
>>290494599I am the target audience you retard. I wanted the plot and conflicts of Rebellion resolved after waiting for more than a decade over this trash heap.
>>290494681*Akira and Ryou at the end of the Amon OVA,
No one here has watched the movie
So Homura was completely right then?She let Madoka fuck around with magical girls shit and what happens? She sacrifices herself AGAINFuck, maybe Homura's love for her was actually the type of love a social worker has for a mentally disabled, suicidal child. In practice this is essentially Homura's role in life.
>>290494666Bad analogy because Kaiten isn't a yurishit doujin>>290494688>I am the target audienceProve it
