>become a wageslave! Become a cog in the dystopian system killing Japanese society!What a wonderful measage.
>>290500916First time watching a show with an ending like that?Japs love that message, newfag.
>>290500916>I want free things pleaseIt's time to grow up child.
>>290500940Japs and asians in general are truly the ultimate conformists
>>290500916https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asiHrVKcPyc
>>290500940Woah thank you mister japanese spokesperson, very insightful information.
>>290500916Read the manga if you weren't satisfied with the anime ending.
>>290500916I get the messeage is to stop running away and face your problems, but what if reality is your problem? What if you're tired of the expectations society puts on you and just want to give up? Where's the Misaki for the people who have to wageslave in this unforgiving system called society?
>>290501219That's an easy problem to solve, just remove yourself from reality. Stop existing, do it right now pussy.
>>290501219There is no Misaki. Those people are destined to wageslave until death.
>>290501142Nah ill Just spoil myself
>>290501219Misaki can't save you. Only you can save you. You're going to have to find something that gives your life joy and meaning, or learn to toughen up and push through wage-slaving.
It's over...
>>290501142dont do this. the manga is one large dumpster fire with some good moments
Reading /a/ is a free boost for the self-esteem. Jesus, every single one of you is such a retard, if you're not just pretending.
>>290502017The fact that you can't tell means you're a retard as well. Congratulations
>>290502017At least my Waifu is better than yours
Westerners will see a realistic message like "you might need to adjust yourself a little to fit in with others if you want to live in society" and get really mad about that. They really really hate it when they're told you might need to get a haircut and stop acting weird if you want a job and friends.
>>290502284Who's your waifu? Who's my waifu? I don't remember having one
>>290502017Keep telling yourself that.
>become a wageslave! Become a cog in the dystopian system killing Japanese society!
>>290503651I read this in Kamina's voice
>>290501254I'd rather make reality stop existing.
>>290501219That's the thing, you cannot run away from reality. If reality means being a wageslave cog in the machine, then that is what you must face and endure. There's no way around reality, and you can't live in a dreamy haze forever>MisakiWe all know she isn't coming.
>>290501219>what if reality is your problem?The either you find a way to change reality (an impossible effort for the individual, but doable for the collective) or a way to cope with it. If you can't find either, then unfortunately I think the only other way is to an hero, which I wouldn't condemn, really. Reality is pretty shitty for many.
>>290505998Well how is it going
>>290500916>What a wonderful measage.The message was that for Satou, living as a NEET was a privilege. When push comes to shove and starvation kicks in, he aptly got cured of his "plight" and quickly found a gig to put food in his tummy.
>>290500916Wat
>>290500916In hindsight senpai arc was a brutal blackpill.
>>290501219Your problem is not reality, it is your own perception of reality. That isn't to say your problems don't exist, rather that the way you think about them and deal (or rather don't deal) with them is flawed. The good news is that changing the way you perceive reality is quite doable.>but wouldn't that just be lying to myselfNo! The fact is you're already lying to yourself. You exist perfectly well in reality as it is right now, so there's no reason you can't be content or even flourish.
I'd love to become a cog in the machine but instead a mental institution since about 10 years
>>290500916I don't think that was the message>>290500940>>290501010genuine retards
>>290500916Neetdom is a privilegeYeah, Sato becomes a wagie but he is no longer pissed scared of leaving his room and interacting as a whole. But at the end of the day, he is still in touch with Yamazaki and the contract at the end is that people should stick together. Him and Misaki will both try to move together. If you want to chimera an ending with the manga, he is still trying to get a creative job for real while waging for a living.
>>290509842>I don't think that was the messageIt wasn't, but if OP made a explicit /r9k/ thread on /a/, he'd get [Deleted]. Gotta keep up an appearance.
>>290509636>t. shekelberg
>>290501459>>290502004The manga is gritty and a lot more realistic. It's the anime turned up to 11. If you liked the show you'd be doing yourself a disservice to not read it.
>>290500916actually the message is "do you want to live or die" nobody gets to choose where they're born but they can choose to die in the fantasy world of the hikki or live to work, love and prosper.it's not so much about becoming a cog, even in isolation you're at the mercy of your surroundings ergo part of a system.
>>290512200this doesn't look very realisticespecially his toes
>>290512200The manga is just a different adaption of the novel.
>>290500916>watch any coming of age anime ever>life ends after high school>solution to every problem is to get a job, blend in with society, and have a girl love you uncoditionally
>>290512511I meant in the way the characters act retard. Have a (You) I guess.
>>290512267You're right, except the choices are actually more like: die in the fantasy world, or work and numb yourself in every way possible because there simply is no love or prospering for a lot of people no matter what. There is no Misaki coming for most of us, which makes the final message of the anime feel extremely disingenuous. Like it was written by someone with zero actual understanding of the hiki phenomenon and the social and economic reasons for why it exists at all.
>>290512267The actual choices are: Do you want to waste eight hours of your life for the rest of your lifetime, putting on a social mask just to survive, or do you want to spend those eight hours doing whatever you want and be free, even if you're barely surviving?There is no love or prosperity in work, you're just doing it to survive and wasting hours of your life every day.
>>290509636>bro just gaslight yourself 24/7 until you become a different person bro don't worry everyone does this lol for sure, its all your fault that you're not doing itMaybe its "well meaning" (that's how people like you tend to see it), but it is truly useless advice for some of us. We simply cannot play the game the way you can.
The message of NHK is "get a cute gf and then youll be able to put up with a meaningless job"
To be truly happy you have to live like a normalfag even if you aren't one. Everything rest is cope.That's the message
>>290514307>everything rest is copeof course the ESL is a failed normalfag lolI bet you dream every day about having a life like that, what a good slave
>>290514208welcome to the real world nigga
>>290514336Are you happy?
>>290514376I'm neutral. Nobody is 100% happy or 100% sad all the time.Even if you got a car, wife, kids, a dream job, or whatever other shit normalfags dream about every day, nothing would change. You'd still feel neutral most of the time, with occasional moments of happiness and sadness.
>>290514473Every video game, anime, hobby or whatever will take it's toll if you do it 10h+ everyday for years.Eventually it will be like living in an empty white room.
>>290514817>nyoo you're a failure if you don't marry some random whore and waste half your life raising kids instead of enjoying yourself.I probably would've had that fantasy too if I hadn't had two horrible experiences with women, one of them was someone I almost married, and the other took my two kids away from me, along with everything I had. Now I just want to live in peace.If you still believe in a dream world where married people are happy raising kids, good for you. Go for it.
>>290514967>nyoo you're a failure if you don't marry some random whore and waste half your life raising kids instead of enjoying yourself.That's not what the picture says at all anon...
>>290515014The picture is already a fantasy, implying that if you work, you'll be able to afford a house and have someone to take care of you when you're old. literally a normalfag larping as a NEET.And the subhuman implies that having free time for your hobbies means playing the same game forever. I could be in my 60s and still be reading books and doing the same stuff I'm doing today, because that's what I love. That post makes zero sense.
>>290500916>never step outside! Be a leech! Society will never improve! Anyone who participates in society is actually le bad!It is your fault for being the exact audience for NHK. Everyone being a useless layabout is how you get a lawless non-functional semi-state like Somalia. You wanna bitch, pack up a bag and head there. You'll keep what you take and nothing more.
>>290506940How can the collective change reality? Nothing can change reality. The collective can change society but society still bends to reality.
>>290503651Ironically it's actually the opposite, Simon wound up as a homeless NEET bum. The lesson is>become a hobo! Leave the new utopian system and never engage in society!
>>290505998Based ER
>>290515155>implying that if you work, you'll be able to afford a house and have someone to take care of you when you're oldIt does not>implies that having free time for your hobbies means playing the same game foreverIt does not either, gaming it's just an example and can be replaced by anything else>I could be in my 60s and still be reading books and doing the same stuff I'm doing today, because that's what I love.Also wrong, unless you have some serious mental illness you can't do the same thing everyday for 10+ hours and expect to not get tired of it or at the very least enjoying it like you used to when you weren't do it everyday for 10+ hours and eventually you will want to try something something different
>>290515668>you can't do the same thing everyday for 10+ hours and expect to not get tired of it or at the very least enjoying it like you used to when you weren't do it everyday for 10+ hours and eventually you will want to try something something differentI value hobbies a lot, more than most people think they should be valued. For me, it’s about the connection with your inner self, the true essence and achievements of life. For this reason, I take hobbies very seriously. In truth, they are the most important things in life, and I organize everything around hobbies to support them, not the other way around. They are something spiritual, the pure essence of the gods of freedom, allowing you to realize things according to your own will. It’s when your true self manifests.If anything, 10 hours a day isn't enough. I wish I could cut out all my sleeping time so I could enjoy the things I love even more.
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>>290500916Why do you want to be a parasite?
>>290516204Society owes me for being born too intelligent and above everyone else.
>>290515928>I value hobbies a lot, more than most people think they should be valued.It still does not mean that you can do the same things everyday for many hours.After doing one of your hobbies, you must take a brake to rest by stopping what are you doing and do something else like you are doing right now posting here instead of doing some of your hobby.Let's take reading.You start reading a book, some hours pass and you stop reading but not because you can't physically read anymore, not because you have to eat or sleep and not because you finished your book. You stop because you want to do something else like posting here on /a/ or /lit/.Everyone eventually get tired of something they do often and need to vary.
>>290505998I'm rooting for you anon
>>290500916The message is we need to go back to the old ways where the families choose the bride for the husband and the husband is expected to take over the family business. Notice how the only person in the show to find any happiness was the guy who did this. Arranged marriages work most of the time and end up with a much higher success rate.
>>290512267>but they can choose to die in the fantasy world of the hikki or live to work, loveThe problem is the modern world doesn't guarantee work = love anymore. Used to be you went to school, you got a job and the wife was a given. Now women have no need for a man anymore, the government provides and they have the majority of jobs as well. The main driving incentive for men is being erased.
>>290514132>Like it was written by someone with zero actual understanding of the hiki phenomenon and the social and economic reasons for why it exists at all.Are there any anime or manga that tackle it more realistically?
>>290516734Old marriages worked because of financial dependence. Women are happy in relationships where the male is providing for them because that's how they're wired to feel, it confirms their biological success. When the government intervenes and guarantees resources regardless of the status of the relationship, there's no longer an incentive to maintain it.
>>290516917That's the best one on the subject, not that there is much to choose fromThe anon you've replied to was being a retard, I wouldn't mind him.
>>290501034>Japs and asians in general are truly the ultimate conformistsFor all the "progress" west has demonstrated through their non conformism and rebel spirit, thank the gods, we are conformists
>>290517560They're all conformists too, and humans as a species are conformist by nature. They just happened to fall into different programs according to their geography or class.The only individuals are outcasts and most of them seek to escape that status by joining a group.
Old crush drives over at night to get drunk and you dont make a move.Never go full Neet
When I told a Japanese person I was a neet they said i was free.
>>290512200Just read the novel, that's even more bleak and realistic
>>2905122009 years neet here, watched the anime just when I was starting my neetdom. It didn't really hit me that hard I hadn't really come to accept my failure at that point. Trying the manga now and it sure is a different feeling. Although I'm not snorting coke like him so I guess there are still a few rungs on the ladder I haven't hit. Have a feeling it's going to be a lot more painful reading it this time. Even worse because I know there isn't a girl coming to save me like he got.
>>290500916>Become a cog in the dystopian system killing Japanese society!Why do you think they care about you having kids or not?
>>290520120Fuck it I got the light novel too, it's not very long I was expecting more. Might as well do the whole trifecta. Wonder how different each one will be.
>>290505998https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxZpEFJhO6k
>>290500916The actual message: Living sucks and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>290500916Oh boy I hope you don't watch mob psycho 100One of the worst examples of this in recent memory
Powerful
It's funny that back then waging seemed like the ultimate hell. Now you couldn't wage even if you wanted to
>>290516734It's kind of obvious this needs to be the case but you will never see it implemented. Women will poison the food of every male now that they all are addicted to feminism. It doesn't matter they'll die, they won't think that far ahead. These are people raising money for an admitted child murderer
>>290516734ywngb
>>290500916yep
>>290522576Except Mob Psycho is a lot more ambiguous in its final message.
>>290514967>divorced mgtow faggotI somehow thought that /a/ was better than this.
>>290515250>How can the collective change reality? Nothing can change reality. The collective can change society but society still bends to reality.Lmao you faggot doomer, what do you exactly mean by conveniently typing "reality"? Working doesn't have to be as bad as it is, collective action is the way to change it. Though if your problem is with the mere notion of having to work at all, then tough luck.
>>290522576also Sonny Boy
>>290516140Good reaction pic. Im gonna use it lots when I reply to normalfaggots
How do people come to the conclusion that Misaki "saved" Satou or that the final message is to be a wagie?
>>290526330A reaction pic cannot elude reality. /a/ has been zround for more than two decades at this point, you're not different than the oldfags who wrote these screencapped posts about how they regret their NEET life, you just haven't lived enough yet.
>>290526330>he didn't watch Asobi Asobase when it aired and didn't have this screenshot from thenYou are the normalfaggot
>>290526838Sorry anon but I'm just built different
>>290527736Not gonna watch itStill gonna use itSeethe
>>290523142You will never grab bussy?
>>290500916I mean didn't the writer return to being a NEET after his brief stint of success? He wrote the ending he wants for himself but even he knows it's kind of bullshit.Also, on my rewatch it seems like his major problem is his uncontrolled paranoia enhanced by never just communicating with people. Him not asking the BPD bitch out in school led to a depression that caused a total shutdown after he graduated. Then he continues treating everyone around him like shit because of that isolation. The whole conclusion of him getting a job seems secondary to resolving that character issue.
>>290528137If you have enough money to live comfortably there's no reason not to be a NEET
You dont have to be a neet and normalfags do not have to be so casually cruel but its unthinkable for someone on either side to change once settled in the mold, ask a tiger to change his stripes or a hyena his spots. If you are still questioning people and their life choices then its high time you wake up and question yourself
