>*wins*
>*loses*
>>290508984War crime?
Stitches.
Last stitch.
ELF SEXO
always bet on flamethrowersthe fire purges all
>We killed gorillion monsters, but they're sending traillion more>My stones were plaillion but now they're down to watillion, thankfully the elves are dropping off yayillion so I'm good to go>We won, yayHard to stay awake during this desu
psycho mode engaged
>>290509004here, a clear analogy who will have it dipped in them and who will clown around as a cuck.
those dragons actually are pretty cool
>>290509539anon, those empty filenames are a bit like namefagging
it's a good thing their city was located in a desert anyway with Allen going full scorched earth
>>290508957the RTS resource collection strats were amazing
MC (ME) AND HIS WIVES!!!!!!!!!! WE WONNERED!!!!!!!
this god is deceased
>>290510105he's in spectator mode with astral popcorn in hand. no need to use the fleshbag
>>290510163fairy sex woohooo!
>episode 1: Chapter 1-11>episode 2: Chapter 12-18>episode 3: Chapter 19-25>episode 4: Chapter 26-33>episode 5: Chapter 34-41>episode 6: Chapter 42-48>episode 7: Chapter 49-57>episode 8: Chapter 58-68>episode 9: Chapter 69-77>episode 10: Chapter 78-85>episode 11: Chapter 85-94>episode 12: Chapter 95-103S2>episode 1: Chapter 104-114>episode 2: Chapter 115-126>episode 3: Chapter 127-135>episode 4: Chapter 135-146>episode 5: Chapter 147-155>episode 6: Chapter 155-162>episode 7: Chapter 162-170>episode 8: Chapter 171-178>episode 9: Chapter 178-186Don't like them keeping Ellie's disguise from the manga, it makes the enemy seem stupid. The idea that monsters can actually look similar to Ellie so there's no need for her to disguise herself is much better.
>>290509711They're kinda rushing through the Tiamo stuff because it's not all that interesting. The Lapolca battles are more fun.
>literally every battle is allen summoning 10 billion things and winningwow good writing
Allen should test what happens if he fucks Ellie.
oral sex
>>290510670How long until the elves try to assassinate him since he's too dangerous to leave alive?
>>290510616were you expecting this summoner to be, i don't know, a warrior?
Being an isekai summoner sure is something.
raw readers, how is majin written here? 人 or 神
if only kircheis was here
>bro just wanted to play some make numbers bigger game>end up playing AoEDamn it!
>>290510872She's 49.
>>290508957>SCV good to go sir
>>290511261as much as i like ellie when is maria desu coming back
>>290508663Krena looking kinda thick here.
>>290509004Pink doesn't get fanservice because she is saving herself for Allen
>>290509174Why? They were all combatants. so fuck them
The mom already cares more about him than her own daughter
>>290509711Man, every thread you are getting more stupid than the last....
Time for the rocks to speak Elvish
Elves betray...?
Kek poor fodder soldiers, the motherfucker even healed you guys
Elven Art of War
Cute evil desu
>>290508643>>290508649There was only one winner today
This episode was so good, and finally someone that make good use of dragons, HotD is so fucking retarded man.
I watched it.
>>290510392>The idea that monsters can actually look similar to Ellie so there's no need for her to disguise herself is much better.I'm from the manga. Is that how the LN did it? There's monsters that look like Ellie?
>>290509004haha my wife is so quirky
>>290509298>>290510670Nice.>>290513272He was already making uses of the dragons in these battles. This time he made use of his ability to delete and summon again. Iirc they can only use their awaken ability once a day. Imagine Cecil was a summon. She can only use petite meteor once a day, and he's been making use of it, but now, with more magic stones, he summons her, she casts petite meteor, he despawns her, then repeats. He's essentially bypassing cool downs to use what are essentially extra skills for his dragons.
>>290509711honestly if it wasn't for krena this would barely be better than rearguard
>>290512936why the long helmets?
>>290510616I was worried about how fast the story started progressing toward the end of S1 and some anon said it would get way worse in S2. I didn't know it would get THIS bad. This is basically the way a child on a hyper sugar rush tells a story, jumping the shark with every new sentence, absolutely zero concept of pacing. Such a waste of a kino setup in S1.
The monster army movement animation was so kino. Like a toddler playing around in paint and dragging stuff around.
>>290512936
>>290513377In the manga Ellie never puts on a disguise, and is still assumed to be a monster by everyone that spots her.
>>290514077???
>>290511320Looks shellshocked from the war, but it's just her extra skill making her even dumber
>>290513839>retard acts surprised when hell mode with exponential EXP curve goes exponential at the high endAllen earned all of it.
>>290511320wouldn’t be out of place in that shellshocked vietcong meme macro
>>290514160*In the WN/LN Ellie never puts on a disguise, and is still assumed to be a monster by everyone that spots her.Bad spot to type the wrong word by mistake
>>290513839>absolutely zero concept of pacing.It's not like it's the series fault. In the manga, one can get a good feel of the pacing as they show you the days and months that they spend fighting. The exp Allen is getting from all of these kills. The explicitly mentioned 200K monsters that escaped that they hunted down (I don't think the anime said it was 200K). I think it's a bit difficult to do this in an anime on a low budget, while also animating the war.
>>290514641>and is still assumed to be a monster by everyone that spots her.Could a human do that then? She pretty much looks like a human, no? Did they give any other explanation?
>>290514728>(I don't think the anime said it was 200K).you speedwatched
>>290514755She does fly and go through walls after all.
sex with pinksex with purplesex with elvessex with ellie
>>290514767Went back to double check. I don't see where he says it, but he does say they killed 800K. Guess one can infer from that that the stragglers are 200K in number.>>290514782That's fair. Though the elves are known for controlling spirits...
MARU DEMONAIBATSU DEMONAISA N KA KU DEMOSHIKAKU DEMONAI
>>290516687kono hibi wo motto aishitai...
>>290508957>food please
>>290513022>>290508649Pink is literally not even in the running. She's fightsexual.
Honest thoughts on the adaptation so far? I enjoy this story for the schlock that it is but the 3D CGI enemies that have been here since S1 have really worn my patience thin for this show. It's really ugly and boring to look at a lot of the time.
I thought he unlocked his new skill during this conflict, but I guess not.
>>290517212No he somehow lucked out on having a first class seat to high ranking individuals talking about their battle plans.
Can't wait for this.
>>290517097>Honest thoughts on the adaptation so far?As someone that reads the manga I'm mostly ok with it. Don't have much a complaint, I guess.>but the 3D CGI enemiesI'm not bothered by them.>>290517801At least spoiler mark this stuff.
>>290510670This was fucking badass, the scale of it especially. This show is a gem
>>290517035She's gonna fight Allen's cock! And win!
>allen laments the fact he didn't get the deputize skill at lv60What the fuck does deputize even do?
>>290518517>>290517801
>>290518517Bullshit overpowered things.
AOTS
>>290518517He can turn one summon (one per category) into an elite/general that has increased stats and buffs other summons under their command.
name my band
>>290508743desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
Where the fuck is Helmios?
>>290519896different front, elves aren't the only people getting raped
>>290519896They already explained a few episodes ago that the reason the demon lord is launching smaller, but also very big, attacks on Giamut and Baukis at the same time is to keep any potential allies from coming to help the elves since they're busy with their own frontlines. This goes especially for Helmios.
We'll be getting a S3 with the dwarf loli right?
>>290520224YeahSource: It came to me in a dream
>>290520224They spent all the budget for S3 on these last few episodes of S2
>>290520224Sequels are always about how the source material is doing, if the manga/LN is doing well, yeah we are getting that S3.
>>290520505Half the budget was making the 3D models for the summons, they can reuse most of them
Good use of pig puns>>290520652Honestly kinda impressed with the variety of monsters in the last few episodes
I'm not super in love with how number heavy the last few episodes have beenAlways rattling off the size of the enemy army or amount of troops or supply of stones
>>290509951I said it last week but I guess Krena can use her extra skill on demand now? >>290512852She wants grandkids already. And no wonder Galuug. or whatever the fuck his name is. is always mad - Spirit Users are just shitty Summoners.>>290512912Beginning of assassination plot>>290518517How does Allen know he has this skill if he hasn't unlocked it yet? The stat screen in the anime did not show it when he was talking about it.>>290520814There's some cool monster designs in there honestly.
>>290521296I'd say the anime held back on the numbers. In the manga it also included all the EXP he was getting too. I hear the LN is generally more detailed than the manga too.Personally, I like these numbers and I find them helpful. Along with them telling the number of days that have passed and showing the calendar months (>>290514728). With these numbers I get a feel of "yeah, what he's doing makes sense" and it supports his actions not being an a**pull and gives a more explicit idea of his capabilities. I'd say this is that kinda of show, though I can understand there are people that dislike numbers or like the show without them.
>>290521441>How does Allen know he has this skill if he hasn't unlocked it yet? The stat screen in the anime did not show it when he was talking about it.It looks like this. It tells him he has the skill, but is "sealed". He doesn't know what it does yet or how to unlock it, but he's currently working on the assumption that he needs to be a certain level to unlock it.
>>290521574>or how to unlock itNEVERMIND. It says it right there that he needs the level. My mistake.
>>290520814The puns were cancer. The nip dialogue just had the pig say "bu" as its copula.The LN translation does the same with the Spirit summons' "desu", making Maria and Ellie constantly make puns about death or dying, thankfully the subs ignored that.
>>290521574>>290521621That's wrong though, he DOESN'T know it's locked to a particular level.
>>290521296>>290521475It works better in the WN/LN because it goes a bit more into detail about what he's doing instead of just "Okay guys, let's go" *timeskip* "Whew, we managed to kill 500.000 guys during these past 3 days"
im only here for the cunny elf images
Elf Queen SEXO
>>290522241She's 48
>>290522407im only here for the hag elf images
>>290522407Out of 10
>>290521474I can't get over how good the character designs are in this series, I need to find the timeline where this got the high profile treatment...
>>290508783Monsters somehow have the same table manners as humans
I really like elf and elfmom's metal slime hair
>>290508702allen is so lucky
who is best girl and why is it pink???????????
>>290508743>ellie... I need you to do me a favour...>*UNZIPS*why is allen such a faggot?
>>290522749These aren't monsters, they're mazoku.
the ed kinda slaps
>>290523437the op is better
>>290523549on opposite day
>>290521296>>290521475What doesn't add up to me is the elven army>We only have 3.000 men>*3 days later*>We now somehow got 300K soldiers, lmaoIt's like they're just completely making shit up to make the scene more grandiose.
>>290521839Ah, ok. Coulda sworn he said he said he didn't know. Not sure why the image I posted from the manga says explicitly that it needs a certain level. Maybe it was unintentional?
>>290524501>We only have 3.000 menYou mean the scouts? That's just the scouts that were used to get the magic stones.
>>290524644Isn't that from some backup feature? It's just making shit easier for readers to understand, Alan's in-universe Grimoire only says <locked>.
how do I get>genki pinkshit gf>purple oujo gf>silver lolibaba ara ara gfin this order?!?!?!?
>>290524501Dumb speedwatcher.
>>290524759>Isn't that from some backup feature?It's from the end pages that give more info in the manga. They typically never give spoilers though.
>>290525364Well, it either did this time, or the chapter it gets unlocked in is included in the same volume.
>>290525750He doesn't use it until the next volume. I think they just messed up and spoiled it on accident.
>>290509984Krena is the type to clown around only to start hysterically crying when she finds out Allen ends up with one of them
Krena should sit on my face.
>turns into generic insanely op mc easy mode garbage...sad
>>290525981>implying she'd careKrena would just boldly declare herself his second wife or rape him for a kid anyway
>>290526220This overlooks the work Allen did prior to this. Before the war he made thousands of peaches and collected 100s of 1000s of magic stones. (Not as preparation for the war, but just to have and to level up). This is over the span of months, at least. He used essentially all of this up in just a few days, plus used some of the new stones he got from the war. If it wasn't for his stockpile, he probably couldn't have done this. That said, the peaches are pretty OP.
>>290526220Yeah, s2 is an insane drop in quality.
>>290526359The fact it's "earned"(abusing autofarming 24/7 to turn super op lmao) doesn't make it any more interesting. Magic stones also don't matter at all, like sure they're mentioned and the story pretends like its a big deal, but he gets to restock from these high rank monsters so supply's solved
>>290526437My point is that it's not OP like being able to inexplicably one punch everything, or some instant death skill that just makes you a bit sleepy, or believing in the power of friendship. There is work that he has to do (even if his summons do it for him), and there are strict costs involved that he can't quick escape.If him being really strong bores you, then that's fine. He's not going to get any weaker to my knowledge, so I'm not sure if you'd want to continue this series.
>>290526547I'll keep watching, its still ok.>pointI get the idea, it's just that it's poorly executed since as it is it's no different from just being op. Muh show not tell.That said my memory is too ass to bring up any shows where it's been done right (technically Tanya[awful plot armor tho] and maybe Mushoku - both cases they're technically OP but still have clear limits and weaknesses)
>>290526359I'm still hoping it gets more interesting now that his stockpiles are dwindling, at least the healing ones since he can apparently keep a steady resupply of magic stones, but that doesn't make this first run any less boring
>>290526611As far as the manga goes, this is the only point in the story where his stockpile of magic stones is ever relevant. It's basically never been brought up again that he might run out, at least thus far.
>teenager>can summon cute female dolls that will never disobey himI can't take a work like this seriously if there's no scene where he realizes they have no hole and that the mouth and hands are similarly too doll-like
>>290526603>technically OP but still have clear limits and weaknessesYou don't think Allen has clear limits and weaknesses?>>290526611>I'm still hoping it gets more interesting now that his stockpiles are dwindling, at least the healing onesI don't think he's so reckless or so people-serving that he wont keep an amount for personal emergencies.If you two are looking for him to have a challenge, he already has that atm. He's been fighting for days, and some days without much sleep. He was literally drafted into war and is fighting on the front lines. He's also practically the commander of this war: telling the elven army where to go, what to do, calculating the number of the enemy and allies, spying on the enemy, and making plans to fight back. I don't think this is something a normal person can do, or at least not casually. And he's still making peaches on the fly. Literally while flying he's growing them in pots. Idk if it's how this arc is adapted, but I can see that he's been working his butt off.Maybe you guys prefer it simpler? Like you want to see him getting beat up or losing to an enemy as a way to show difficulty? Spoiler: the demonic deity is there as we learned in this episode. They'll have to fight him and Allen can't handle that alone.
>>290526826>You don't think Allen has clear limits and weaknesses?No. He can fulfill all party roles by himself, has single strong units and gigabroken ants which would win the entire war by themselves if he let them bred for a month.>challenge [...] he has been [...]Oh im so tired, oh its so hard *wins anyway because its just the op isekai equivalent of virtue signalling*.It would matter if they actually got btfo because he's tired or his poor management of magic stones and elixirs caused losses. Its just pointless talk with no consequences, quit being retarded.
>>290526220He literally admitted today that he only won because the elves helped him with the resources he needed AND the demon king's army attacked in managable numbers instead of going balls to the wall.Yeah, he's strong, but he's nowhere near as OP as you think.
>>290526985yes and next time he'll win too but some other 'because X' will follow. How new?
>>290526826Yeah he's working hard, there's still no tension in the story because everything is going according to his plans, he has enough intel to never be caught off-guard and nothing is actually going wrong. Not even the elves who distrust him are fucking up.I feel like in season 1 he had a lot less control and that made things much more entertaining
>>290527002Next time he wins because of smart strategizing.Also he'd have been completely assfucked if he hadn't sent Ellie to Lapolca to spy and learn about the incoming attack on Nest.
>>290527070Good thing he did that and he won't get assfucked! I wonder what other convenient things will he do next!lol
>>290527065He meets one individually strong boss and can't win iirc, so at least you've enemies that are as OP
>>290526966>gigabroken ants which would win the entire war by themselves if he let them bred for a month.Summons despawn after a month.>has single strong unitsShould a summoner not have any single strong units??>He can fulfill all party roles by himselfYou think he could have won then if Kurena and Axe-bro weren't there to take out the big guys? If Cecil wasn't throwing literal meteors? If the 3,000 elf scouts didn't collect all those magic stones so he could do the psuedo-no-cooldown hellfire finisher?Either way, I asked if you thought he didn't have clear limits and weaknesses, but you listed strengths. He does have weaknesses: He needs magic stones, mana, and like with most helm classes (ex: necromancers, puppeteers, monster tamers, etc.), targeting him is typically more effective than fighting his summons.>It would matter if they actually got btfo because he's tired or his poor management of magic stones and elixirs caused losses.So.... you just want to see him lose?>>290527065>Yeah he's working hard, there's still no tension in the story because everything is going according to his plansGetting drafted to war was not part of his plans. The demon army quickly renumbering to 1M after they fought them off was not part of his plans. The demon army now doing a pincer attack with 4M from the top and 1M from the bottom was not part of his plans. A demonic deity being there was not part of his plans.>he has enough intel to never be caught off-guard and nothing is actually going wrong.Was he not surprised when he found out that the demons quickly regrouped to 1M?>Not even the elves who distrust him are fucking up.Why are they supposed to screw up? I also don't remember then distrusting the savior their spirit lord told them about. They might be snobbish, but they are putting their lives in his hands.
>>290527122>"What the heck? Why did this guy have fire alarm in his house the day a fire happened?! That's too convenient. WTF?! he has a fire extinguisher in his house too?! And an escape plan just in case?! Boooooring."
>>290527282>he thinks any of it is defensibleRetard. Im not reading all that.>despawn after a month>just use them on their 29th day (due to increment he'll still have millions of them)off yourself and raise the global IQ
>just jumping in an army of a million monstersSurely this won't end badly
>>290509711Battles on this scale are never interesting when they're just throwing numbers at each other in attrition/siege battles. Team 1 just has tech advantage this time and cleans out team 2, my 50 beat your 100. Demons are just slow as fuck to react to the fact the elves suddenly deployed T3 units. It's not all that fun when you mass and just attack move the enemy base/army and effectively just win eh?
>>290527354>just use them on their 29th day (due to increment he'll still have millions of them)>"millions"100*29=2,900Assuming he uses 50 of his (60 total? 70 total?) slots (save some for griffins, Ellies, buffing summons, etc), that's2,900*50 = 145,000.All of which will disappear by the end of tomorrow. Also, to do this, that means 50 of his summon slots are occupied for a month. Also means he couldn't fight with these ants that month 'cause otherwise, the number of ants at the end would likely be lower due to them dying. This just cripples him for a month for just two days of fighting. Elves would've lost by then.
>>290527448holy QUALITY
>>290513272Aren't they late in the dance? Their dragon numbers are plummeting, the rider numbers should be fucked as well. Something something not all targs can ride/command a dragon, sometimes they will eat you, waning power (magic)/arrogance/abuse of dragons.
>>290526220PURPLE BATH SCENE SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOELF BATH SCENE SEXOOOOOOOOOOOTo be fair this arc is probably the most broken the MC is in the series since both his enemies and his allies are scrubs compared to him. Later on there's usually some big dick bad guy who's restraining him while he actually needs to rely on his party members.
>>290527625Its kinda dumb his party is so OP while everyone around them is just a basic NPC - its so easy to max out levels + these guys have been fighting a whle lol
>>290527625He gets waaay more broken after this I think. Also he literally would not win in this arc against the bad guy if he didn't borrow the hero. His entire party would have died.
monster ellies are pretty cute
>>290527662I think it's mostly thanks to having A rank dungeon gear and good extra skills. Even if some 1 star shitter class hits the level cap with basic rank and file gear he'll have like half the stats of the MC's party members. Dogora really shouldn't be diving in to solo A rank monsters though.
>ellie blowjob service
>>290513534Cecil*
>>290527662Especially since it showed plenty of the elves having useful extra skills. I get that Allen uniquely can overwhelm an army and keep an army heal with his ability, but the elves should have put up a much better fight as the story basically says the elves did nothing to the army for the first month. If Cecil, a random 2* mage, can kill 5 figures at once with her extra skill, an army with plenty of extra skill users, many of which have ranged, should have taken out a fair chunk of monsters even if they were gradually being worn down.
>>290527695Yeah he gets more broken but so does everyone else. Dude spends like half the series not even being able to damage bosses due to muh def calculations, and when he finally gets a good nuke it drops his IQ to like a quarter and honestly does him more harm than good.
>>290527662I think class matters too. Kurena, for example, is a sword lord (3 stars). Remember how she overwhelmed the military spear dude when she was a kid and level 1? It was with her extra skill, but still. The elves' equivalent would be a spirit user, and that's the guy that was protecting the queen, and that's the only one they have. It seems 3-stars are really rare, and he was indeed able to take out a large chunk with his earth spirit. I assume most of the troops are one stars. Maybe some of the commanders are 2 stars? Besides extra skills, I assume they can't do any thing major. They also can't fly like Allen's group can, so they can't do hit-and-runs the way they do.>its so easy to max out levels + these guys have been fighting a whleIs it that easy? Allen's party did it with A ranked dungeons iirc. Is it the case that most groups of people could beat A ranked dungeon bosses?
>>290528444>300k>all 1 starscmon now.
>>290528566No, not all of them are 1 stars. Even people without a talent can level up to get stronger though, like Allen's dad which is how he survived many hunts against monsters, which the the army might primarily consist of. Then again the rules might be different for elves since Rozen personally grants them a lot of special benefits as their patron deity, specifically extra talent users so maybe there are more people with talents than without in Rozenheim.
>>290528566>"I assume most of the troops are one stars.">"All 300K are 1 stars"These aren't the same.
>>290528636>>290528655>taking it literallyIm just saying even if we assume low stars for most the depiction is still off, since they'd have 2-3 stars making a difference.The party's just insanely powerful for little to no reason besides plot - at least Krena's justified though
>>290528636Pretty sure they all have talents. At least according to the lore the nations started fighting only with talent users thanks to having too many casualties otherwise.
>>290528723Indeed, large scale combat should look very different in that world if Meteor was a somewhat standard 2* extra skill.
>>290528730I don't think civilians all have talents, otherwise they probably would have been mobilized to fight.
>>290528794Yeah the civilians don't, but the 300k soldiers should all have talents on them
Is it just the elves who are canonically weak? The main human country seems to fight off the monsters over a broad front without much issue and the dwarfs just obliterate any monsters approaching them.
>>290528863They aren't weak. The main thrust of this arc is that the elves are overextended because they committed a large part of their forces, specifically healers which they have an abundance of thanks to spirit magic, to other parts of the war front. The Demon Lord's army overwhelms them with a surprise attack while their supporters are abroad.
Why is this allowed?
Why are they waiting outside women's bathroom?
>prophesizedSo this little squirrel was taking a look at Elmea's development changelog, and leaking spoilers to the world?
>>290529067He has to pay magic stone each time he recreates the cards.
>>290528723Keep in mind they have Allen on their team. He's 6/8 stars. Allen is frequently giving them buffs, flying them around, and giving them OP healing items when necessary. Other parties don't have this. If you put Cecil or Dogora on some random team, I assume they wouldn't do as well as without Allen's support. It's also possible the elven army troops aren't max level. According to picrel, only like 10 parties are going to this A rank dungeon at this current time.>>290528784However, I do agree that if there are 2-star mages in the army, I'd expect more petite meteors or other strong extra skills from them.I guess I just really need the numbers. I also wonder how many of the troops are talentless.
>>290529280I think it is mostly a matter of framing, the elves being pushed back against a strong enemy makes sense, but the elves being pushed out of fortress like cities while inflicting next to no causalities to the enemy (as Allen basically says the monsters have nearly the same amount of units as they started with) until Allen shows up does not necessarily make sense.Being pretty much in the same position, but say knocking down an initial monster army of 5 million to 3 million while being pushed back to where they were when Allen arrived would be much more plausible then having done next to nothing.
>>290529090Sexy purple energy
>>290528863>>290529035The humans were the weakest until the hero appeared, but after he got added to the mix the elves were the next ones on the chopping block
>>290529585No self-respecting elf would ever mate with a h*man
>>290529526>but the elves being pushed out of fortress like cities while inflicting next to no causalities to the enemyYeah, I'll give you that; that does seem weird. They said it was 'cause they wanted to evac the Queen iirc, but it does sound kinda flimsy. Lemme reread what went down in the manga.
>>290529280>only like 10 parties are going to this A rank dungeon at this current timeAren't they literaly middle schoolers? That only makes the elves situation even dumber
>>290529898It's not just students using the dungeons in the city. All the other adventurers shown in the A rank building in the manga were adults.
>>290529724Ok, recap. Demon Lord attacked with 5 - 10 times the normal amount of troops. 10M, so I guess the allies side was expecting around 1M-2M demon troops to defend against at any given moment. Elf country had 1.6M troops which is reasonable. On top of that, normally the demon army only attacks the central continent, and because of this, their healers weren't home. Demon Army essentially caught them by surprise with a massive number and blitz, throwing 3M at them, about twice the elven troop's number. They fought this heal-less fight for about 1 month before asking for help.They were preparing to mount a final defense in the south, but as we know, the Queen was holding them back 'cause she didn't want to evacuate with people still there (700K civilians). Once Allen got there, he was brief and it seems there's 2.8M of the demon army left. As for the elves, 200K elves were with them in Tiamo. Some others were in the other neighboring cities. I'm not sure how many were left total, but it does seem odd they only defeated 200K demon troops, though they were outnumbered. Maybe they just aren't well prepared for war? The central continent seems to take on most of the battles normally.I'll post the manga pages with the numbers. They aren't in necessarily consecutive pages though.
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>>290527065>Not even the elves who distrust him are fucking up.Here: >>290530773With the elves trying to keep people out, they used up time and lives. The queen was also slowing things down since she refused to leave, and it divided their army.
>>290530732Still healing or no healing, in a world where a random teenage 2* mage can knock out 10k monsters in one attack, the entirety of the elves army, which includes the fortress city South of the capital well inland where battle would have happened weeks after the invasion, should have still done more than 200k in causalities in a month.
>>290531080Cecil isn't exactly random>expensive as fuck auction gear to min/max her meteor damage>mana consumables from MC to nullify the fact the meteor eats all her mana (which normally wouldn't recover until after 6 hours)>griffons from MC to get in position to actually drop the meteor>level capped like any adult 2 star would be>lucky pull to have an extra skill suited for mass combat in the first placeBut yeah I'll agree that the elves getting absolutely nothing done in a month is stupid. At best you can chalk it up to them mostly retreating instead of fighting.
>>290531080No, you got me, it does seem weird. I figure they'd have at least some 2-stars to fight with. Not sure why they are so weak.
Guys, what if the elves' talents are race limited? For example, they'd probably never have a Sword Lord or a Hero talent, right? It's seems all of them are either archers or spirit users of some sort. What if they were limited to this?
>>290531535Oh, and healers, but Idk if that's a spirit thing or not.
>>290527282>You think he could have won then if Kurena and Axe-bro weren't there to take out the big guys?The anime hasn't shown his summons struggling with big guys here. It did last season a couple of times, like with the orc boss or the giga nigga he had to run from. But even back when they fought the dragon he had a workable strategy even if Kurena's extra skill was better. He's got higher rank summons since then, and nothing was shown to be a particular problem for them.It was a battle of resources, so long term success is a matter of creating more magic stones than he uses. Which we weren't told about.
some LN/WN sources and analysis.>stronger than B rank and still horribly jobbingTotal slop writing. And it had such a good start, too. lol
>>290532052There's also the fact that spirit users are good at blowing all their mana for a single big nuke, kind of like Cecil's meteor, so you'd think they managed to kill more while retreating
>>290532052>AI encapsulataion and analysisIt's sad that you don't know how retarded you are.
>>290532331>le technology bad cause badstfu retard
>>290532052I was hoping the LN/ WN could save this, but I guess not; seems even worse now.>The soldiers were generally stronger than ~99% of the army.>Elves had home advantage and a fortress>Elves lost about 2M - 600K = 1.4M solders>Demons lost about 200-300KIdk what to say.
>>290532331Oh this was AI? (I never use it, so I'm not familiar).>>290532052Do you have the links this was sourced from?
>>290532396It can potentially make sense if it was a stalemate/comfy hold against the usual 200-300k and they suddenly got surprised by giga numbers massed in one place + demons arriving and never quite managed to regroup, but eh.Also seems webnovel never gave any solid starting number, so it potentially made more sense there before it was explicitly stated in later adaptations>>290532419https://www.everand.com/book/568667186/Hell-Mode-Volume-4 and primarily webnovel links https://ncode.syosetu.com/n3669fw/171/ to various chapters
>>290532592>Also seems webnovel never gave any solid starting number, so it potentially made more sense there before it was explicitly stated in later adaptationsYeah if you take out the starting number and say the elves made a stubborn resistance that killed off a large part of the demon army but were overwhelm in a battle of attrition against sheer numbers, you can end up with the same situation as when Allen's party got there but with a much more reasonable fight up to that point.
>>290527282>>290526826arguing with a muh stakes fag is pretty stupid
>>290534442I got nothing better to do.
>>290512936I liked the mob soldiers from ep 7 more
>>290534442>>290534520malding
>>290510670what a kino shot
>>290532052At the very least, there is no reason to have given up Rapolka without a real fight, as that was a stranglehold, and to the South it was open ground, and it isn't like a surprise meant much there since it was only a few days North of the random 4 cities they opted to defend instead.
>>290531366Different races have access to different classes, and elves primarily get supportive and defensive ones. Notice how neither Sophie nor Volmaar have been killing all that many monsters either.
>>290540701That was explained in the LN. Note that the queen was with them at the time too, so staying there and getting surrounded would've meant her death.
IT'S TIME
sophie-don...
kurena!!!
nyo
>>290540701If they got overran at the first fortress then they had to keep moving back till the forces from the left and right of the continent could regroup, kind of inevitable - iits moreso retarded they were surprised by a million+ massed troops but xd the writing of this has hit rock bottom with this season so its w/e goes
holy smokesthis makes me remember a scene i saw when i was a kida whole field of sugarcane was burning just like this, it was so terrifyingthe zone was very big, like there was no end to the horizon, and it was burning all like this
she's so cute
>>290541673>>290541683My dumbass thought she was wearing a scouter from dbz and I don't even like shonon
>>290541762kek
why does his way of speaking remind me of neliel lmao
krena is so cute you guys
gosh, i want them to kiss already
i think think they will ever sell dolls of her, right?
she has matured so much from the first episodes we saw her, it's really incredible
>it ended
i love this ed so much, i listen to it every day on apple music
>>290542107Poor girl is forced to fight a war in a foreign country with no sleep no breaks and no end in sight
>>290509004KURENA
>>290509143cute
>>290509298thank you so much for the stitches, anon!
>>290510163>>290510193oh, god, now that i see it like this, it is kinda hot
>>290510670this is amazing
>>290510872i wonder if she has gag reflex
