So... That ending...
camrip yet?
>>290522063No but the first five minutes were uploaded to billbillwww.bilibili.com/video/BV1vd4663EMH/
Does anyone have any actual guesses for when the movie could come out in English?
>>290522358I doubt that it will get a dub but it will be out in Anglosphere countries eventuallyWe know it will by the end of this year in America from the American website, so I guess just wait 4 more months max
>>290522395>>290522358Are you guys for real? It's out in LatAm in 1 month.
>>290522395>>290522421I hope it leaks before any international release. South American rating agencies, do your thing;
>>290522028It's such an artistic way to showcase what's just a bullying scene. Also, why did everyone need to stick their asses out?
>>290522421I said English not Spanish.
>>290522459>Also, why did everyone need to stick their asses out?Urobuchi was horny one day and asked them to do that
strong copium
>>290522974Of course it was rewritten. Jesus. Why couldn't they just leave it be.
>>290522997money
>>290522974So Kanata's lyrics confirm Homura is the one Madoka is saying "I want you to accept this world" to...
>>290522974>rewrites rewrites rewritesWhen I made this image I did not expect Kaiten to actually end up being the Rise of Skywalker of anime.
>>290522974>she hintedI'll be honest, I'm not buying it.
She is easily the best new character. Let's give her a proper name. I propose Mari.
>>290522127HOLY KINO
>>290522997If you're a madokafag, Urobuchi's script doesn't sound great either. Apparently, madoka had even less screentime and agency in his script compared to Kaiten.
I saw it this morning but my nip isn't that good, what was the connection between Marguerite and Madoka? Madoka is the God that gives her the power to save Magical Girls?
And speaking of my bad Nipponese? They all agree to see Homura as Madoka's protector? I didn't quite grasp the ending, although from what I've seen japs post that part is open ended.
>>290522974>>290523041I think that was pretty obvious>>290523174I'm sticking with Kyubey-chan for nowMaybe it's a coincidence that her name is actually Kyubey
Interesting analysis from xitterx.com/motorinorinaga/status/2093384572994257245
>>290522127Looks kino so far
how many minutes do they focus on Mami's Mammies?
>>290523358>The movie is against anti natalismHoly based
/u/fags yet again blown the fuck out
>>290523399Clearly not enough.
Just saw it. On some level I was entertained, since the two hours flew by. But it felt closer to MagiReco than Madoka in the way Rebellion was decidedly Madoka. In the last thread someone said it was HomuSaya fodder but not really, beyond the fact Homura and Sayaka were working together. Well, besides the hand clasp. The ending was... ok. Not really sure that another "you're my very best friend" ending is great, given that that just puts us at the status quo of episode 12. Adding 3 new characters (well ig poorfag showed up for the first 5 minutes) for a movie addition was... ambitious. They only had time to make you care about one of them, but honestly did Walpurgis need a backstory?Got a Mami/Nagisa art card. Love Mami, but definitely have to say I'm jealous of people who got Homu/Saya/Kyouko. Definitely not worth going out of your way to see it until it releases in your region, but I'm also not upset I saw it.
>Homura told me incubators keep stealing her Madoka so I asked how many Madokas she has and she said she just goes super devil and gets a new Madoka from the Law of Cycles afterwards so I said it sounds like she’s just feeding Madokas to incubators and then Sayaka started crying.
>>290523584>Kyubey-chan is PoorfagHoly shit
>>290523231How did they all lose the plot this badly...? I don't get how you screw up everything Rebellion built up.
>>290523584>First spoilerWhy did you take a shitpost seriously lolNone of the yuri posts in these threads are unironic
>>290523653The original story was self-contained. And then Rebellion added onto that, but was itself more or less self-contained. How many times can you tack self-contained stories onto a complete story without totally losing purpose or direction?
>>290523358Madoka saving Homura in the sequel would be interesting.
>>290523584>(well ig poorfag showed up for the first 5 minutes)Wait, seriously?
>>290523682Treating shitposts with a tiny bit of sincerity can be fun in moderation.Plus I went into it somewhat hoping there'd be more there. It'd be fun.
>>290523653Because Madoka's character arc and story were finished with the anime series. Homura's was also basically finished there but there was enough room to retcon some details to create a follow-up work with Rebellion. But by the end of Rebellion there is nothing left for the Quintet to do. Homura's world as shown at the end of Rebellion is easily breakable. Sayaka, Kyouko, Mami, and the questionable new inclusion Nagisa have all been developed. This is what happens when you keep having to makeup shit to extend a series. Even HomuSaya's relationship improving was something Rebellion already showed, so here it doesn't even feel like anything actually significant. Sayaka has always been able to read certain parts of Homura's feelings better than the rest, and with Rebellion she grew to empathize with Homura as someone who also turned into a witch and had a selfish desire.
>>290523584I didn't see a Homura or Kyoko postcard.
>>290523721I didn't either, I would've just assumed the quinetet would've all gotten them.
lewd
>>290523749So whose hand was it in the end?
>>290523705I can see it going that way
>>290523244Margueritte is just a nun who had the same wish as madoka but she wasnt as good and in the end creating witches concept, Madoka is the one who knows her true name after margueritte assimilates with many other failed mahou shoujos
What the franchise needs is a refocus on the main villains, the Incubators. You can ramble on about witches and law of cycles, but all of that is the direct result of a bunch of assholes who are abusing an entire universe worth of children to create infinite energy.Even making Kyubey suffer at the end of Rebellion isn't good enough. We have no information if that actually affects the Incubator's civilization, or just Kyubey.
>>290523735Grannies
>>290523653Urobuchi didn't have any ideas on what to do at first. So it was probably always going to end up being a bit of a mess
>>290523721true, I only saw sayaka madoka and mami so far
>>290523783Margueritta/ wasu
So why did she leave Homura behind again?
>>290523825Why does she have a male skin tone
>>290523811People who saw the original series in high school are in their 30s now. I don't think I saw any young people in the theater.
>>290523834Because you see males everywhere
>>290523834She's European
>>290523808>the quintet are going to fight the alien incubators in space next movieTHIS is your franchise...?
I don't like the ending but if it lets Homura be happy than I can't hate itRegardless of what happened, she is still smiling and I think she will be okay until the next one at least
>>290523584What I liked is that we got some good Kyoko action. She's obviously the coolest and most bad-ass. But you're right, it didn't really feel like it was about Madoka as much as about the new girls and their backstory.
I like Green Kyouko
>>290523941I thought she got more quality time in Rebellion anyways. This one I hardly remember her presence even if she technically had action.
>>290523955She just has the fight with Choka, right? Outside of that one fight she doesn't do much of anything
>>290523808I thought QB's ultimate goal is to keep the universe working? If he's gone then they will die by big bang or something
>>290523584Selma and Walpurgis were fine, but Choka had exactly 1 reason to exist and it was give Kyoko something to do so she doesn't feel completely pointless.
>>290523955I'm biased since she's my favourite. Most of the original cast doesn't really do much but react to the new girls in this. I don't remember all their names. Needle loli, Homura 2, Megane. I didn't like Megana, she was a bitch. Homura 2 had a cute hat.
>>290523935she smiled because madoka wipes her memory
>>290523986I think we're well past the point of their good intentions being justifiable, especially when they started to create witches (which can destroy not just cities or planets, but the whole universe if sufficiently powerful) in order to harvest their energy.There can be an alternative solution to the entropy problem.
>the Devil Homura part of Rebellion wasn't Gen's idea>Kaiten's ending is just "but what if the Law of Cycles did take her actually">movie is just an excuse to infodump about the lore while putting her through a humiliation ritual Sasuga Urobuchi
>>290523993How is Megane the bitch when Needle loli wanted to kill Homura and turn Madoka into a witch?
So what’s up with the redesigns anyway
>>290523992There's a reason why people call her Green KyoukoShe had potential but it seems not much was done with herStill would, tho
>>290523970She also participates in the background in other fights.>>290523993Homu 2 did indeed have a cute hat.>>290523992I didn't like Selma either. Felt too tacked on, her theming too childish. Nagisa isn't better on that front but bloating the cast with little kids changes the tone a lot.
>>290523994Yeah probably That seems to be the general consensus, at least in here.I'm holding out for a better ending for Homura, but if Homura's only path to happiness is being away from Madoka than I can understand why Madoka did it
>>290524027Needle loli cute and has cute thread roll henchmen. megane uglyit's that simple
Honestly from everything I'm hearing so far, going to blogpost a bit, it seems like the movie is focused on the MadoHomu dynamic and conflict established in Rebellion, but instead of exploring it via the actual characters and ship moments they do it with the new characters and sticking to the general philosophy of the dynamic instead of emotions or psychology. There's also the ending that can be interpreted as conclusive but not in a way MadoHomufags like, or it's just a cliffhanger that means nothing. Could be wrong since I haven't seen the movie like some anons here and am just shitting out a reading based on jap tweets and the posts here, so feel free to correct me.
>>290524106>or it's just a cliffhanger that means nothingYeah it's just some stuff that happened. That's basically the takeaway.
>>290524106>There's also the ending that can be interpreted as conclusive but not in a way MadoHomufags likeA bunch of them (me included) were mad about itI've come around to it a bit in the sense that I don't think Homura will be happy continuing to chase after Madoka, and Madoka can't stop her martyrdom. It's cruel but it's also the most loving thing she could do by this point for Homura. Let her move on if you can never truly be there for her and will only cause her more suffering
>>290522127Can any anon translate this?
>>290524048But without Selma kidnapping Meduka and trying to start witchpocalypse how do you get the big climax?
>>290524126You can do it yourself with AI these days anon..
>>290524132The movie should've just have QB himself as the big bad instead of a dumb QB fangirl loli.
>>290523584For HomuSaya, you forgot the kabedon scene.
>>290524132Idk, sounds like a job for a writer rather than adding a literal who no one cares about.
>>290524132the witchpocalypse was also shit because witch madoka just end up in the backgroundI'd rather skip selma and have a fight against madoka witch form (the trigger can be done by wasu or the green bitch)anyway 3 new characters are overkill
>>290524147>sounds like a job for a writer rather than adding a literal who no one cares about.I think that was the solution. Add a new character and make them do it
>>290524028To sell merch
>>290524152Selma and Green Kyouko seem they could've been rewritten into becoming the same character and the film would only get better because of it
Apparently Urobuchis earlier drafts actually featured even LESS of Madoka lmao.
>>290524169Reading that the movie came from Urobuchi's trying to turn Inu Curry's witch lore notes and ideas into a story explains a lot of about the movie.
She will meet Madoka again one day anywayEither as she dies or in the next movie if they make another oneImagine her remembering everything after having everything about Madoka forgotten Poor Homura
What did Type Hatena mean by this?
>>290524172>>290524178What are the chances that Urobuchi writes the next Madoka movie anyway? Half the script was tampered by others and a ton of the concepts came from Inu, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if Urobuchi only comes up with the scenario next time
>>290524172How did the original series end up being as good as it was, when this is apparently his writing skill level since?
>>290524202I agree
>>290524202Saying what everyone is thinking>>290524209Urobuchi is better when he's either being real edgy or playing with puppets Kaiten has neither
>>290524187>>290524172Maybe Homura will genuinely move on from Madoka because the writers don't want to write her lol. Madoka's screentime decreasing little by little with each movie until it's just Homura Magica and friends.
>>290524209I think he just wrote all he wanted to write with the TV show and Rebellion, and he himself has no idea of how to expand the Madoka universe further in a way that's satisfying.
>>290524208Depends if the jap are mad enough about Kaiten, they know its mostly Inu Curry rewriting
>>290524135Thanks anon. Forgot about that for some reason.
>>290524220>Kaiten has neitherBut it could have been anything. It seems like he ended up with a lot of creative control which he shrugged at.
>>290524220from the pamphlet. >Under Urobuchi's original plan, XXX would have diedhe would have killed homu
>>290524235You got it the other way around. It was more Urobuchi trying to turn Inu Curry's ideas into an actual script. That's why it dedicates so much time to witch lore and the antagonist is a recycled PSP game secret boss.
>>290524255That interview also said DoruInu rewrote the second half. It's also really obvious to the Recofags.
>>290524254Which would have been epic. Maybe the series is too big so now the writers are prevented from killing main characters for real.
>>290524208>>290524235They can't exactly force him to write if he doesn't want to
>>290524247I don't think Urobuchi could've gotten away with making Kaiten puppet kinoHe should've tried tho>>290524254Yeah, I'm aware.I'm glad she's still alive even if it seems like her memories are gone. I hope Homura never dies and instead experiences all the bullshit sans death that she can before she gets her happy ever afterShe pretty much already has
>>290524235>>290524255I though inu Curry did both the concepts and a lot of the rewriting from around 2021?
>>290524280No, Homu is /ourgirl/ which means suffering followed by dramatic death is a fitting end for her.
>>290524271Honestly, I think it's mostly that Urobuchi had no interest in turning Madoka into a DEEPEST LORE, EVERYTHING HAS A BACKSTORY, LOOK AT THIS MINOR REFERENCE TO A GACHA GAME, HOLY FUARK IS THAT GLUP SHITO FROM THE MANGA Typemoony kind of franchise.
>>290524292/ourgirl/ deserves better so I will hope that she gets to see a true Meguca heaven one day (although I guess she'd have to die for that, unless Madoka just takes her before that point)I just want to see her happy and around those she lovesShe deserves so much
>>290524301100%. He clearly wrote the script he was contracted to write and left woth Kaiten. He's been done with the franchise since 2011, but Shinbou managed to squeeze Rebellion out of him.
>>290524308Homura is a bitch that deserves to go to Meguca hell.
>>290524312Madoka...
>>290524321And I hope it's HOT.
>>290524312Madoka...Homura...
>Homura smiles harder after Madoka leavesSo wtf does this mean? This has to be important to figuring out what happened
>>290524341Reading Aoi Yuuki's interview, sounds like her life is better now that the girl who infatuated the devil is gone.
>>290524308The story is never going to reach a stable and satisfying resolution again unless you ignore everything post original series. Homu will exist in a superposition of misery and contentment forever.
>>290524311Even Shinbo lost interest in the franchise now.Madoka will look veeeeery different from now.No Urobuchi or Nitroplus.No Shinbo.No Kalafina and ClariS.Doesn't mean it will be bad, but surely it won't be Madoka anymore.The worst thing is they did an open ending in Kaiten with nothing planned after that.We'll wait years just for the script and pre-production...Anyway, the scrapped Kyoko design was sexy, too bad they changed it into a princess outfit
>>290524360>sounds like her life is better now that the girl who infatuated the devil is gone.It probably is, Madoka has been the biggest obstacle to Homura's happiness, with Homura herself being a close secondStill, I don't think Homura would agree with that
>>290524364She doesn't seem too miserable on the bench She probably will be when she wakes up. Especially if Madoka didn't take her memories away
Why every fucking movie must end with universe reset and/or memory loss?
>>290524341She's into neglect play
>>290524379it will be meduka in its truest sense
Even though the story just kind of ended up being a loredump without a proper conclusion I still thought the movie was beautiful. Like hey, what if Eva 3+1 was done right kind of feeling. Seeing the fucking Gainax pose on the ship had me smirking
>>290524254They clipped his wings so they can endlessly milk the franchise.
Guys holy shit I just realized Namae from the gachaShe’s Margaret right?Gotta be. It makes so much sense THEY’VE BEEN TEASING THIS MOVIE FOR OVER A YEAR
Homura dying would've been less sad, I could deal with her dying and I could move on. It would be sad but I could cope.A ending like this is too bittersweet. Like a worse and sadder version of episode 12. Homura is separated and might not even have a chance to ever see Madoka again, we don't even know if she's still a Meguca
Homura dying would just reunite her with Godoka.Homura deserves the worst fate possible: to become a normal girl again, and move on with her life.
>>290524433Because being Meguca is suffering>>290524528Calm down, Kyubey...
>>290524528>afterlifefags in the year of our lord 2026
>>290524433Why is it so hard to write a story that brings them together and ends with them being together?Why must one person become a concept/god while the other remains a living being?They could just end the story with both of them being concepts.Is it taboo to let them live together at the end?I don’t think we’ll see the story end anytime soon, especially with some people saying that QB has gained some new way to mess up the universe even more.
>>290524433For them to write the next movie.Haven't you learnt anything from evangelion? There's money to be made an animators to be trained.
>>290524541>Is it taboo to let them live together at the end?It would destroy the chance for another movie if both became concepts, so we can't ever let that happen
>>290524541>They could just end the story with both of them being conceptsThat wouldn’t fix anything from Homura’s perspective retardThat’s the point, they have inherently conflicting goals
>>290524542>>290524549the seiyuu won't live forever
>>290524563and shinbohe's 70 already
It's cruel but I honestly think this is the most loving thing Madoka has done for Homura It lets her move on and accept her life for what it is. No more ties to the fate of Meguca Jesus, just the life of a normal Magical Girl It's best this way
15 fucking years passed and we are back at almost the same ending as og anime but worse. Franchise is stuck in limbo at this point.
>>290524541I actually want most of the characters to die in a Nitroplus way.Bring Narahara Ittetsu somehow.Imagine the sword autism with Sayaka.
>>290524582He's in his 60s.A director can work till 90, but i don't think he has any passion left.Aniplex destroyed this man.Imagine making almost only Madoka and Monogatari for 20 years... instead of his favourite manga.
The redesigns are probably to signify that this is an alternate universe/not the same continuity as what came before so that people are free to ignore it, like the change in Sayaka’s hairpin between the series and moviesI sincerely hope this isn’t the case because making the redesigns so blatant would be retarded in that case
I think the next one will be the final oneI can't imagine it going for much longer and most everything has been exhausted
>>290524606There's some nips who say this is meant to be episode 12 but redone "better" and more conclusive. So basically Madoka knowing Homura's feelings better and more conclusively nowayfagging them so Homura doesn't get any ideas, and Homura gets the obsession out of her system by trying one last time, failing, and being able to give up and smile because it's over but she was honest. Please clap
>>290524634>The redesigns are probably to signify that this is an alternate universe/not the same continuity as what came before so that people are free to ignore itI don't think that's true but I'll start believing itThere's the stuff with Cleopatra and other Meguca's being implied to have become Witches too during the original series, and that all would have happened way before anything with Walpurgis in this oneSo I guess there's more proof it's another alternate universe
>>290524209Butcher writes very narrow, self-contained stories. They aren't conducive to being expanded in the first place.
>>290524637>the next onekek and lel
I sincerely hope they explain the redesigns in some way because honestly not knowing what Kyouko canonically looks like is a fucking horrible feelingI like both designs but I need to know WHEN DOES SHE HAVE EITHER ONEUNDER WHICH CONDITIONSYOU DON’T JUST CHANGE HOW A CHARACTER LOOKS SO MUCH FOR NO REASON THAT’S RETARDED
>>290524705>YOU DON’T JUST CHANGE HOW A CHARACTER LOOKS SO MUCH FOR NO REASON THAT’S RETARDED6 new designs for merch
>>290524689Then why did they try and expand it aaaaaaaaaa
>>290524705Isn't the simplest explanation just that Devilmura gave them those redesigns?
>>290524713entropy means the universe needs more meguca fans to feel despair
>>290524713>why did a company try to expand on incredibly successful show
>>290524705You poor fucking baby.I remember the redesigns for the mechs in Gundam Wing Endless Waltz. What was the explanation? There wasn't one. I eventually stopped caring and ran with it.
>>290524705I haven't watched it in 10 years I honestly didn't notice she looked different
Rebellion could've been the endingI'm sure there's a way to Have Homura rebel and then still have the ending be completely satisfying Maybe have Madoka say that she doesn't think they'd become enemies or something. I'm sure there's a way to make Kaiten unnecessary while Devil Homura exists
>>290524742The show should have been the ending
>>290524693Too much money in the Meguca business for SHAFT to let it run dryIf there wasn't we wouldn't have Kaiten
>>290524705not even the nips care..
This movie might be garbage but at least yurifags were put in their place
At least Tokyo Mew Mew New only redesigned the transformed forms so you can just say they can turn into either. Here it’s different because I’m pretty sure their regular forms are redesigned too, like Kyouko still has visible ties in her hair on the side even when not transformed. Which I love and think is cute and cool and suits her but I need to know under which conditions it’s canon for her to have them.>>290524714Maybe but why and why didn’t they look like this at the end of rebellion
Anyone know how the movie is doing box office wise? Will it break 2 bil (yen)?
>>290524757>WK and shin evaI've seen these parallels drawn so much on nip twitterI never felt as strongly about this series as Eva but I get that this is the 3.0+1.0 for Madokafags. It even has the Gainax pose lmao
>>290524754Yeah but it's more fun as a writing scenario to try and figure out how to take Rebellion sans the last 8 minutes and make it so a sequel doesn't need to happen than the other way aroundWith the original all you need to do is remove Mami telling Madoka becoming the LoC is a bad fate in episode 12 and the last scene of Homura starting to turn into a Witch.Let it just be Magical Girl Heaven and done, there would never be a need for a sequel
>>290522028Where is this screenshot from? is there a camrip out?
>>290524791it's aiming for 30 bil
>>290524794>but I get that this is the 3.0+1.0 for MadokafagsMore like 3.0 honestly>>290524809It's the second post >>290522127
>>290524782Well, they weren't megucas at the end of rebellion yeah? They were in their civie outfits mostly. Also, at the end Homura's universe was just barely established, we can wave it away as her giving them a redesigned outfit after she finished deciding what to do with everything in her universe and setting things up.
>>290524791https://x.com/mtt_75058/status/2093328718404141389doing great
>>290524791this was last night150k ticket sold
>>290524830They are redesigned even in their civilian clothes Also why would Homura do this is there an explanation
>>290524858So we are totally getting a sequel then
I also hate that they seemingly threw away a Kyouko redesign even after showing herWhat the fuck was thatAll Kyoukos deserve to live. This is bullshit
No matter what, I will always love Rebellion and the original anime. So if I don't like Kaiten, I can still live with the original and its sequel in my heart
>>290524858B-but I thought yurifags were the majority of the fans o algo???
>>290524912What
where are the homu shikishi aaaaaaaa
>>290524563They have the technology.
I heard the new movie is bad, as I predicted. Just coming by to say I told you so years ago.Madoka show is one of the best anime. Rebellion is bad. Then they tried to milk the Madoka franchise with more garbage. The trend was clear. Madoka was a lucky success its creators can't replicate or understand. Like almost every successful franchise, greed for easy money ruins them until even the dumbest fans have enough. It would have been better if Madoka remained a one off so discussions do not get polluted. We have to wait for AGI until we get good anime again.
I didn't even really like Rebellion. Original tv anime was the peak. Rebellion came out when the love was still there. I think Kaiten would have been better received if it didn't come out a full century later
>>290524959>shoehorns AI into the discussionBut I overall agree with your post.
>>290524959Good bait but the AI thing makes it too obvious
>>290524959It seems to be a 6-7/10 with an ending that's probably good(?) but we still don't really understand itIt's not bad>>290524963>I think Kaiten would have been better received if it didn't come out a full century later100%If it came out in 2016, or even 2020-2022 at the absolute latest there wouldn't be anywhere close to as much disappointment. But it came out 13 years after Rebellion, so what is there to say?
>>290524223I mean she'll always be around but the franchise has this weird issue where seemingly all of its heads aren't really interested in the central character as anything outside of a concept. So it's the Homura and Sayaka show occasionally featuring Madoka and the others are supporting characters.
>>290524963Well I mean now it has to contend with the sequels people built up in their heads for 13 years, it'd probably have to be 11/10 to beat that. It seems like it's a pretty solid story about Houmra and Sayaka that doesn't do much with anyone else and has a confusing ending, so like a bit worse than Rebellion but not some massive fall off but expectations are what they are.
>>290524223>Madoka doesn't get any character development so Homura leaves her behind completely
>>290524980>>290525012Writing good stories is difficult. Most humans aren't smart enough. And those who might be work on more important things than entertainment.Cultural rot has made things worse. Entertainment peaked two decades ago. It's not just anime, movies and books have become worse too. I bet in 2 years AI will be able to create better stories than the garbage we're getting now.
>>290524959The story is, and always has been, about exploring the dark side of "pure" things like wishes and deep love. This has remained very consistent from OG to Rebellion to Kaiten.Even the deep dive into Walpurgis lore serves explicitly as a parallel to Madoka and Homura, there's real thematic weight to each of the new characters. I hate Reco and this felt very far removed from that kind of milking.I do wish we got a straight-up conclusion, but fuck it. An inception style vaguepost ending is undeniably a step up from the huge cliffhanger Rebellion ended with.
>>290525030The Homura and Sayaka stuff, as well as the stuff to do with Walpurgis all seem pretty goodThe rest doesn't seem that great, and who knows about the endingPeople talk about the ending a lot but even if it's bad I don't think it's the films biggest problem. The lack of Madoka, Kyouko and Mami, and the new characters being kinda shit both seem to be bigger problems Like, when you see someone that dislikes Rebellion you know it's because of the ending. With this, it's probably because of the ending but it might be for any other range of reasons Who even understands the ending anyway?
>>290524867girls like to play dressup
There is only one real question I have.Were there any good homubutt shots?
>>290525084>The story is, and always has been, about exploring the dark side of "pure" things like wishes and deep love.Exactly:>Madoka was a lucky success its creators can't [...] understandMadoka was good not because of this cliche but in spite of it.
>>290525030As someone who watched it, I think you're on the money. In a vacuum, this was great anime movie with gorgeous visuals and not a decent narrative. But in context of madomagi it doesn't really add anything other than some background lore that nobody really wanted.
>>290525119I've heard talk of sayabutt
>>290525119I don't recall but there are lolis pole dancing in a nightclub
>>290525016It's likely because the writers see Madoka's character as already fully explored and completed in the original tv series. So they don't know where to go with her after because she doesn't need to change.
>>290525119no but there are mami and megane booba shots
>>290525098to be honest though.. is Kyouko and Mami not really being particularly relevant a particularly new thing for the franchise?Hell is Madoka being less relevant to the show named after her than Sayaka or Homura really a new thing? Though it seems this film cranks that up further than before and that's post re-writes to at least give her SOMETHING in the last act.
>Episode 12's ending but Homura is actually happyHow do people feel about this? How do I feel about this?
>>290525030>It seems like it's a pretty solid story about Homura and Sayaka that doesn't do much with anyone elseThis is wrong, Sayaka Kyoko and Mami+Nagisa all get roughly equal anounts of screentime, it only seems otherwise because Sayaka stuff grabbed spoiler-posters' attention more. Mami is the only odd one out since 80% of the time she's playing support for Nagisa, who outshines her quite a bit in this movie.
>>290525152Madoka was still relevant in the original anime. She still did stuff even if Homura tried to prevent her from getting involved In this one it seems she does nothing until the end besides getting kidnapped
>>290525157That wasn't my interpretation, though I see how someone could read between the lines to see it that way. Will have to rewatch it soon to solidify an opinion on the end.
>>290525140It kind of extends back into most of the original series though. Honestly it feels like the only time Madoka actually gets to be THE Protagonist and have real agency is.. the final episode of said series.
>>290525197What do you think the ending is like then
>>290525214Madoka and Homura understand each other better now, but the seemingly neverending push and pull of their relationship continues. Homura is ultimately in a healthier place mentally than she was before all this, so if/when the chase continues she'll at least have her shit together more.
>>290525312To be more specific about your question, Madoka leaving the bench at least is unambiguously framed as something that's going to cause Homura a lot of pain again and Madoka knows it.
I hate not knowing what Kyouko looks like.
>>290525312>>290525353InterestingI really need to see the ending for myself
>>290525353>Madoka leaving the bench at least is unambiguously framed as something that's going to cause Homura a lot of pain again and Madoka knows it.Could you expand on this? This makes Madoka sound like a bitch
>>290525157Cool
>>290525377I don't remember her exact words but iirc it was something along the lines of "Sorry Homura-chan, but there are still things that I have to do."
First five mins feels very 'horror-ish'To anyone who's seen it does it keep that vibe throughout?
So does Sayaka get to remain alive in the NEW NEW universe that is mostly the old one but slightly different?
>>290525431lol nahit peaked at devil homu vs wasu I guess
>>290525468fugstill excited though
