Chapter 29, 30, 31: >>290463114Chapter 32
>>290539911Doni mentioned!
>>290540107chilchuck is peter dinklage
>>290540107>she
>>290539890FAT
Remember when we all hated Kabru and called him Cabron? Those were the days
>>290540418we can still do that
>>290540483Kunoichi sexo
>>290540387bamboo bomb?bomboo?
end of chapter
>>290539863This was the first chapter of Dungeon Meshi I read, out of curiosity. Boy did it give me the wrong impression about what the rest of the manga was like.
>>290540536i forgot, does shuro end up doing actually useful for saving falin, other than helping eat her dragon parts?
>>290540599that's hilarious. honestly all the early kabru chapters would give you a severely warped impression of the manga
>>290540437All those fins remind me of the couatl Marcille makes near the end. Maybe they're related species?
>>290539934FIONIL MENTION!
>>290540213I've never really understood Kabru's dislike for the siblings here
>>290540627What's funny is that even back then I found the jump from "They're giving money to people feigning injury" to "They're shady and need to be exposed" a bit weird, and I didn't even know he was talking about the actual protagonists.
>>290540417Best girl finally here.
>>290540843they're neurodivergent
>>290540609He brings the kot
>>290540029>>290540056Kabru's character aside, I like what he brings to the table in terms of talking about society around the dungeon. Like how he talks about here, it makes sense that adventuring parties would have superficial knowledge of each others and that there'd be a whole rumor mill around intra- and inter-party relations.
>>290539890>Murderers cold-bloodedly eating the food of victims they just executed
>>290540483mystery nigga enter
>>290540172Ah, good ole' sonder...
>>290540843It always felt like he's making up crap to turn public opinion against them. I think I never wanted to believe his "understanding humans" is acutally this shit-tier.
>>290540843Isn't his entire whole issue because Laios just wouldn't talk to him?
>>290540239>MMM yummy... desiiires///
>>290540362GIWTWM...also ENTER
I do think it's kind of neat how Kabru, Shuro and Mithrun all serve as different forms of foil to Laios
>>290540536What a curious reaction...
>>290540417ENTER the cute Sumo Oni>>290540418Why lose the tradition, guy bangs his gnome friend's sister he is still a Cabron
>>290540483>oni girl wanna eat the snakeHad she looked more beast-like Mr.Touden would have taken her to venture the rest of the dungeon with them.
>>290540460Of course, Japanese sword technique honed for 1000 years is the strongest.
>>290540536Is funny how Kuro eyes fluctuate between cartoon dog eyes and white spots with beady eyes. Thanks as always OP.
>>290540172>you can't un-learn the elf way of see people if you were raised by one
>>290541059*Mystery nyagger
>>290540843Laois is funding the black market by proxy.
>>290540843His disinterest in looking into the people who he worked with is deeply offensive to Kabru's sensitivities. Maybe it reminds him to much of how elfs treat the short lived races.>>290541089This wouldn't have been an issue if Laios was a woman
>>290540107I hate unions
>>290542132You sound like you send unsuspecting halfings to their deaths for milk
>>290540843Their autism makes them immune to his own autism skills which set him off.
>>290539934Fionil mentioned!
>>290540843The "it's not that they're bad people" line muddies the water a bitin the EHscan version it's more clear that the implication is that Kabru thinks they are knowingly funding the black market, the entire fucking joke between the two parties that the Toudens do something that unknowingly gets misinterpreted as evil by Kabru's so I have no idea how they messed that up.
>>290542027Reminder that canonically FemKabru would jump into Laios pants at the first opportunity
>>290539952>>290539972>when that annoying coworker catches up some new drama
>>290542224Would SMASH femSureau
>>290540418i will never not hate kabru
>>290540536fucking hate these scrimblos (kabru's party)
>>290540418Kabru is such a wet blanket, the story would honestly be better off without him
>>290540056Falin looks great here
>>290542211I would even go as far to say it ruins the build up to the inevitable confrontation between both parties, there's actual tension since it's established that Kabru is a lawful stupid murderhobo and 'will' kill them if he doesn't get the right answer from them>They're not bad people, I just want to talk to themvs>They are bad people, I want to confront them
>>290542191Ok then enjoy paying a fee to be allowed to work, sucker!
>>290540107>shewhat?
>>290542535He's a guy, Yenpress fucked up as they are won't to doDon't worry about it
>>290540079>Smelled like bad newsLike someone who didn't wash himself for decades.
>>290542224Fuck fem Kabru can get it. Also, are all female monsters stronger, or just the living armor cause they're mollusks?
>>290540107>>290542132As far as I recall Chilchuck founding a half-foot union is a clear net positive for half-foot and their safetyMikbel is just skeeved out by contracts>>290540261Look at you Kabru, thinking one step ahead regarding monsters>>290540536Thanks OP>>290542405Falin always looks great!
>>290542211>>290542484Can I get a nihongo joe person to read the raws and tell me your thoughtsArugato
>>290540107>>290542945Michbell is probably 16 or something, by the time he was brought up Chilchuck already united his people and delivered them from evil. Give it a couple years when the half foot education system puts Chilchuck as one of the first civil rights activists that gave their people a voice to express how they don't want to get eaten by monsters and that'll shut these youngsters up. They'll probably put a statue up of Chilchuck on the island, with an epitaph like beater of the eater of all things horrible
>>290542945Mickbell comes across as way shadier than Chilchuck in any case, so I don't necessarily trust his opinion on the matter.
>>290540843To be fair, his analysis of Laios is correct. In fact, it makes no sense to dislike the character simply because someone has accurately analyzed the protagonist's flaws.
>>290542224I can't believe there were fools who, upon seeing the look of disgust and horror on FemShuro's face in this manga, declared, "My god, it seems Shuro would have fallen for Laios if the genders were swapped; his love for Falin must have just been an autism fetish." There are truly immature people in this world who are either even more incapable of reading the room than Laios, or simply willing to completely misinterpret the story just to bash a character they dislike.
>>290542211Once a fucking again I am glad I read the EHscans version first as the chapters came out.
>>290540510Maizuru is not happy about Kabru butting in.
>>290543562she's blushing and crying because she has to marry him now after what he did
>>290543641He had to check whether or not easterners were secretly demihumans or not. Those bones aren't going to count themselves.
>>290540483>>290540536IZUTSUMI!!!!! :D
>>290540195There's always that guyYou are minding your own business, not in the way of anyone, and suddenly you are the "bad guy" hiding something
>>290540609He punched Laios, teaching him to pay attention to how others feel. He gave Laios the Resonance Bell, sharing his location with Kabru. Without these actions—and without Kabru punching Laios to show him that there were people who took an interest in him—Laios would have become the Demon King. Thus, these two are indispensable friends who shaped Laios's ultimate fate.
>>290543835It is not as though he has caused no trouble for anyone. Laios is admonished by the Orc chieftain for the folly of adventuring without regard for the consequences, and he vows to henceforth consider the true meaning of exploring the dungeon. At this stage, the criticism is valid: because Laios lacks interest in the people around him, he is—in effect—no different from the island lord who fattened up the monsters, acting even worse than the most unscrupulous adventurers.
>>290542969I understand Japanese, but I don't grasp the subtle nuances of English.
>>290542224Femlaios... is doing something for me.
>>290543562it's ambiguous on purpose
>>290540858What Kabru wanted to expose was not that they were "evil," but rather that—much like the Island Load—they lacked interest in humans, and consequently brought about calamity through their own good intentions. Given what ultimately befell Falin, one should consider Kabru’s objective achieved. It is only later that Laios becomes interested in humans and begins to consider the outcomes of things.
uuuoohhh middle aged dad erotic ToT
>>290540079I wonder what actually happened to Namari's father. Did he actually just ran away with the money or was he framed?
>>290508388>>290540536hantan lyë avestaina
>>290544266That is certainly not the case; the situation is clear. Laios himself states that things would be worse and FemShuro wears an unmistakable look of disgust and the women of the party criticize Laios. The fact that Laios’s harassment of Shuro was acknowledged yet tacitly accepted within the party was solely because they were both men; the narrative implies that had Shuro been a woman, the behavior—including sexual harassment—would have become a major issue. Anyone who looks at this and thinks there is "room to interpret FemShuro as having romantic feelings for Laios" simply lacks the ability to read and understand Japanese manga.
>>290544485>the behavior—including sexual harassmentyou mean misinterpreted as sexual harassment
>>290540417SEX WITH ONIS
Hypothetically, if you get a girl pregnant and she dies, then gets revived in the dungeon, would she still be pregnant? Asking for a tanned friend>>290541033Tbf they're only *slightly* dead
>>290544485>lacks the ability to read and understand Japanese mangaNever read Shojo, have you?
>>290540536ENTER
>>290544485laios lacks the ability to read social situations but apparently can read what's going on in a wordless, textless panel that the author could have easily put actual text inside to make it clear to the audience what was going on
>>290544526In the context of shojo manga, if only FemShuro harbored feelings for Laios—and assuming the other girls didn't share that sentiment—the version of Laios she imagined would be depicted as exceptionally handsome. Yet, in this scene, the image of Laios that comes to mind for all three women is a repulsive one. This implies that a shared perception of Laios as "creepy" or "gross" exists among them. It seems you haven't really read much shojo manga.
>>290540843Normies just subconsciously hate Autists
>>290544842>NormiesGo back.
>>290544746Even assuming the author deliberately chose not to present the text as a gag, I think it would be a misinterpretation to assume that words Laios recognizes in other scenes are inaudible to him in this one. There is no guarantee that information withheld from the reader is also withheld from the characters.
>>290544788>the image of Laios that comes to mind for all three women is a repulsive one.really?
>>290543293>>290543116I just checked and Mikbell is 22That is plenty old enough to not be as immature and short-sighted as he comes across
>>290542224>FemKabru would jump into Laios pants at the first opportunityhonestly, might be more pity related than finding him attractive. Apparently in 63rule Laios managed to alienate literally fucking everybody. FemKabru is probably trying to talk him out of throwing himself off a cliff.
>>290544788Fem Shuro's image of Laios is clearly more favorable then compared to Marcille or even Farlin though. The blush is clearly of a maiden in love no question. Like if Kabru was in the party he would be the cool kind fellow with a dark past who gets his shirt wet and transparent, but Laios would be the winner who acts atypically of the hunky boy sterotypes that win the girl over regardless.
>>290545068mikbell is an old man...
>>290539890Advantages of wine as a survival staple?
>>290544788>the image of Laios that comes to mind for all three women is a repulsive oneHow is that repulsive? That's just a simplified Laios, sure it looks dopey but since the little scene is implying he said/did something dopey that the 3 are discussing, that fits. FemShuro is relaying that it happened and is embarrassed about it (could be flustered embarrassed or got the ick embarrassed, we'll never know), Marcille loves this kind of drama as we'll learn later which is why she's acting surprised but excited, and Falin is in full "It's over" because she's assuming the worst case scenario since she's been through a lot of those with him.
>>290545153I'd always read that panel as Shuro seeking counsel with the girls (perhaps with some shame) and admitting her feelings for Laios, to which Marcille reacts with shock (Laios? That guy? How!?) and Falin with worry (Oh poor you, you've got your work cut out for you...)It's the first time I hear of anyone seeing something else there. Even looking for it now, the only reaction I could possibly see as disgust is Falin's.
>>290540107He's a greedy jerk! Said the greedy faggot.
Do you think Mickbell and Kuro ever... you know...?
>>290540172Is this how normalniggers think?
>>290540213>>290542211Raw for reference.
>>290545444He's just Laios but for humans
>>290540138>don't lump all Easterners togetherWhat is she, chink? Her name should be Ling instead then?
>>290540483Look at Shuro's not motherI can't wait for all the background for the retainer group, those were always fun. Especially with Shuro's dad>>290545378Same, even when this was first translated the only interpretation was a romantic one. I won't completely discount a different interpretation, I could see like the sexual harassment angle but it's like a single panel without dialogue so who knows. I'll ask Kui, my uncle works for her.
>>290545444I think most people don't put that much thought into it. Kabru is a sociopath who gets off on drama and manipulating people
>>290545507Rinsha = Linxia
>>290545444Kabru is explicitly a weird person.
>>290540460I like how Samurai are finishers.
>>290539890senshi weeps
>>290540417Shiggy diggy
>>290545153It is a misinterpretation to insist that the exact same facial expression signifies affection in one instance and disgust in another based merely on form. Everyone shares the same opinion regarding Laios, and that sentiment is clearly one of disgust, not affection. The fact that FemShuro’s expression is less exaggerated simply implies that she conveyed her feelings in a more restrained and polite manner. It is simplistic to claim that a flushed face automatically equates to a look of love. I cannot speak for conventions abroad, but in Japanese manga, emotional tears often accompany a blush—a pattern followed in this work as well. If the artist intended to depict the kind of romantic expression you are imagining, they would not have drawn tears around the eyes, and the corners of the mouth would be turned up. Does this expression look like a look of love, too?
>>290540107>Halfling resenting another halfling just for having a better scam then themAre they all like this?
>>290545467When I try to read this it makes no sense to me, but my Japanese is pretty basic. I'm seeing>It's not that they're good people>It's just that they don't care about people
>>290542680Should be case by case, like IRL animals.
>>290545361>>290545378That contradicts Laios's realization that the outcome would be worse (even compared to the scenario where Shuro was a man).
>>290545834To be honest, I think Laios wouldn't respond well to a romantic situation, either.>Looks like that just made the situation worsewould likely be his response to any number of outcomes.
>>290545834THe says it looks worse, from his perspective. That doesn't preclude romance. In the words of Chilchuck romance in the party is always bad.
>>290545834Didn't their party almost fell apart before the manga starts because their mage tried courting Laios? That would absolutely be a worse situation in his eyes.
>>290545927>>290545974If that is the reason, then what is reflected in the mirror would be the scene where the party collapses due to FemShuro's presence. In this chapter, the scene itself is written as a "bad ending." That is a convoluted misinterpretation.
>>290546165Such a scene wouldn't explain to the reader why Shuro being female would lead to the party collapse. That's why it's this scene instead.
>>290545695>It is a misinterpretation to insist that the exact same facial expression signifies affection in one instance and disgust in another based merely on form.When things are portrayed differently it is common sense to say it's for a reason, clearly Marille and Falin have different reactions that are not just disgust that is based on forms>Everyone shares the same opinion regarding Laios, and that sentiment is clearly one of disgust, not affection. The fact that FemShuro’s expression is less exaggerated simply implies that she conveyed her feelings in a more restrained and polite manner. It is simplistic to claim that a flushed face automatically equates to a look of love.It's simplistic to say it's a response of disgust, Failn his sister has the greatest response even compared to Marcille who usually has the larger disgust response which indicates that her response is one of confusion or some other emotion. Why would Falin be the most shocked? It's clear by the text that she's shocked that another woman is courting her brother.>If the artist intended to depict the kind of romantic expression you are imagining, they would not have drawn tears around the eyes, and the corners of the mouth would be turned upBashful confessions where the girl is embarrassed would not always be accompanied by a smile, if the artist intended to have an explicit romantic expression you can have a smile but tears in the eyes just mean emotional by most conventions, not necessarily romantic but it doesn't discount it by any measure.>>290546165Frankly nether Namari or senshi is explicitly about the party breaking up, for all you know senshi being motherly could still have her help the group out. Marcille and Falin being male is as much of hamper and explicit party dissolution as Shuro being a women so assuming that every scene must be one where the party explicit collapses on panel is a convoluted misinterpretation
>>290546236If it hasn't been explained, it cannot serve as a substitute. The conclusion of this scene lies within the scene itself. The reasons why the outcome is worse are depicted right there: the kind of harassment Laios engaged in would be unacceptable with a member of the opposite sex, yet it was tolerated here because Shuro is of the same sex. That fact *is* the conclusion of the scene.
>>290546413>That fact *is* the conclusion of the sceneNo the conclusion is female shuro would sleep with laios
>>290546413>the kind of harassment Laios engaged in would be unacceptable with a member of the opposite sex, yet it was tolerated here because Shuro is of the same sex.being really interested about NotJapan is harassment?
No more of this, Kui was right to not have romance in dungeon meshi. It makes shippers out of good men...
>>290546482Laios would be an interesting character to write a legit romance for because he's someone that's internalized the fact that he's the bad guy in every social situation.
>>290546565>someone that's internalized the fact that he's the bad guy in every social situationTruly the most discriminated person...
>>290546482Kui does a good job at writing interconnected interpersonal drama without it devolving into love polyhedrons. Gotta applaud her for that.
>>290546409This phrasing conveys that, even while displaying the same sense of revulsion, FemShuro expressed herself politely—a demeanor that remained unchanged even when he was male. The mirror altered only the gender; Shuro harbors the same feelings of disgust toward Laios regardless of whether he is male or female, but the way those around him perceive that behavior changes.Falin is well aware of Laios's social ineptitude. If she were to hear that her brother had engaged in inappropriate behavior toward a woman, it would be only natural for her to turn pale and think, "He's finally done it."I fail to understand why you persist in claiming that "it has not been denied that she harbors affection for this man," even after witnessing a scene where a woman—her face flushed with emotion, eyes welling with tears, and brows furrowed (yet without the slightest upturn of her lips)—shares the image of a man—depicted not in an idealized light, but as a grotesque figure—with a woman consumed by anger and sorrow.For my part, I have been arguing that interpreting this scene as a sign of the party's collapse is a convoluted misreading—and I am glad to see we agree on that point.
>>290539934I named my DD2 pawn after Fionil. I didn't do it on purpose. Fionyl was just the first name that popped into my head when it was time to name her. I thought I was being original for a while, though it should have been a hint that the name seemed to arrive in my head fully formed.
>>290546442That is nothing more than a baseless wish of yours.>>290546463Laios learned that what matters is not how he feels, but how the other person feels. I hope you can learn that, too.
>>290546766>I hope you can learn that, too.stop typing like a passive-aggressive tranny
>>290546565The moment that corrected that aspect of him was when Kabru punched him and said, "I wanted to be friends with you."
>>290546829how does that fix that? That's an example of what I'm talking about
>>290546846At that moment, Laios hinted that he would abandon the world for the sake of his own people. Kabru made him realize that there were people in the world interested in Laios himself—not just in monster cuisine.
>>290546670>I fail to understand why you persist in claiming that "it has not been denied that she harbors affection for this man," even after witnessing a scene where a woman—her face flushed with emotion, eyes welling with tears, and brows furrowed (yet without the slightest upturn of her lips)—shares the image of a man—depicted not in an idealized light, but as a grotesque figure—with a woman consumed by anger and sorrow.Because the image of Laios isn't grotesque and I wouldn't call any of the characters feeling anger or sorrow in that panel. You can like a person and still be conflicted about it, in other words saying ""look at how not happy Female Shuro is" isn't enough to discount romantic undertones. All those expressions that you pointed out can very easily be seen as romantic not disgusted, if a character in a manga were to find someone charming and annoying at the same time and were written to eventually develop romantic feelings these welling tears and furrowed brow with a flush is a sign of romantic feelings not disgust. For example this panel I've posted is a romantic image, it's tinged with discontent and inner conflict but it is a romantic image on the whole. It's not a smile it's a lopsided expression, it's got a frow, it's got a blush, it's not a whole sale pure romantic expression but that does not discount the clearly romantic intent from the author.>Falin is well aware of Laios's social ineptitude. If she were to hear that her brother had engaged in inappropriate behavior toward a woman, it would be only natural for her to turn pale and think, "He's finally done it."Falin is on the same level as Laios she just talks less, and her very nature would preclude the thought that Laios would be capable of something like that, in this very chapter dump it's shown how void of human understanding both siblings have. Falin would humor the moon being made of cheese more then her brother being a villain to anyone.
>>290540536Thanks, anonsito.
>>290546670>The mirror altered only the genderUntrue, if that was true female Laios would have still gone adventuring and Female senshi would still be a hermit. Clearly there are different personality changes along with outcome
>>290540343Holm, we're fuckin' dying out here. I don't care if your pokemon gets a little dirty.>>290543634I think it's more that she's disappointed with her kunoichi being so smitten with a handsome face. They should have more self-control.
>>290540029>They've been arguing about goals and revenue for a whileOof. Namari and Shuro splitting makes a little more sense, now.
>>290540107>a scab has appeared
>>290540056>>290540079Laios' party is pretty stacked. All the tallmen are nobility, Namari and Marcille are both related to bigshots, and Chilchuck, despite having the humblest origins, has accomplished a lot in a short span of time.
>>290547095The girl in the image isn't teary-eyed, so she isn't blushing from crying, nor is she sharing an image of a creepy man with the person she's talking to; instead, the distinct upturn at the right corner of her mouth clearly conveys a hint of a smile. If you think that expression is the same as the one worn by that FemShuro, then you are simply insensitive to the nuances of facial expressions in Japanese manga.Falin makes friends at school and, above all, is capable of considering the feelings of others. That is precisely the difference between Falin and Laios, and the reason why Shuro likes Falin but dislikes Laios. Falin joined the adventure because she foresaw that Laios would otherwise meet his ruin; she understands that he often upsets others without any malicious intent. This is evident in the side story where Chilchuck points out, "Ask him if someone who can't get along with people can really get along with monsters."
>>290539863Kabru's dumbass party about to get wiped again because they don't know the living statue will just pull itself back together
>>290547186Upon seeing the suggestion that, had Laios been a woman, he wouldn't have been able to enter boarding school or the military—or even had the chance to leave his village—do you really think a woman would have set out alone on a journey through a world teeming with monsters and bandits?That is a rather "fantasy" notion.It looks like a bit of a gag—the idea that Senshi would be more readily accepted as the proprietress of a set-meal diner if he were a woman—but does that strike you as odd?It’s not that Senshi dislikes people; in fact, he actually wanted to serve monster cuisine to others whenever the opportunity arose.
Cocky little scab needs correction
>>290547581>Falin makes friends at schoolwasn't Marcille her only friend because all of the other kids thought she was too weird?
>>290547581Mind if I ask something unrelated? What's your opinion of Laios in general?
>>290547581>Falin makes friends at schoolA large part of her backstory is Falin being a loner who spent time away instead of doing school work>Falin joined the adventure because she foresaw that Laios would otherwise meet his ruinShe abandoned her education because she wants to go on an adventure/follow her brother, not because she "foresaw" Laios ruin>she understands that he often upsets others without any malicious intentWhich is why her reaction being "He's finally done it." wouldn't make any sense>nor is she sharing an image of a creepy man with the person she's talking toCreepy man? Maybe Marcille but that's a stretch with the evidence provided>instead, the distinct upturn at the right corner of her mouth clearly conveys a hint of a smileLopsided expression is not hinting at a smile, it's literally an expression of apprehension are you ignorant of the nuances of facial expressions in Japanese manga. My point isn't that the expression is the same, my point is that various physical expressions can have more then one meaning. I'm not saying you CAN'T interpret that the panel is about Femshuro complaining about Laios but discounting a romantic interpretation overreaching with the available evidence1/2
>>290547581>>290547967>had Laios been a woman, he wouldn't have been able to enter boarding school or the military—or even had the chance to leave his villageWhere's your evidence that a female Laios couldn't have done any of these things, we see female adventurers including just being a tallman fighter. >do you really think a woman would have set out alone on a journey through a world teeming with monsters and bandits?If she was Laios? Yes, he literally essentially was a bum on the streets for a large section of time, where's your evidence for making sense large assumptions for the dungeon meshi world which is very fantasy.>It’s not that Senshi dislikes people; in fact, he actually wanted to serve monster cuisine to others whenever the opportunity arose.Senshi dislikes people flooding into the dungeon and wants to live off the dungeon. Either the restaurants his female version is on the surface which means he isn't living off the dungeon anymore or it is in the dungeon which therefore would attract more people and worsen the ecosystem of the dungeon/ if she's too busy cooking who is taking care of the dungeon which is a core part of the personality. 2/2
daily anon please come back I don't want to see anymore arguing on 1 panel of 1 page in 1 omake
I guess the threads will be interesting when we reach the Laios monster succubus chapter
Time to do a dungeon meshi module in whrp>>290548221I pray that kot posting will deliver us from evil
>>290539890>>290545359Alcohol has a natural resistence against germsThat's why our ancestors drank so much beer, mead, wine, whateverEasier to just brew some funny tasting water with a longer shelf life than just take the eternal dysentery russian roulette risk with plain ol' river water
>>290545359>>290548256But in the dungeon there's plenty of clean water, in general the resistance of booze is a good thing for travel but less so in the dungeon. Maybe as a last minute antiseptic? Or just that it keeps morale up.
>>290548221We have the Golden Kingdom chapter before that with another blush that schitzos like to fight about, not looking forward to that
>>290548379>dating sim chapter opener>I'm sorry, I though it would get cleared up in a couple of posts and not a dozen
>>290548076There's a recurring aspect of a lot of the gag pages is that they dwell a fair bit more on laios's thoughts and feelings and him knowing that everyone sees him as a weirdo that no one would miss (except Falin). I feel like what Kui was getting at, at least partially, with the mirror thing was that Laios was interpreting things worse than they would have been for various reasons. The Femshuro panel specifically was made in a way to have the readers interpret what was going on for the sake of the gag. The anon talking about Laios sexually harassing Femshuro is off his damn rocker. At worst, he would have done something completely innocent that she would have maybe seen as weird because part of Shuro's character in general is that he's polite and very, very uncomfortable with damn near everything.
>>290542224Alright since you autists are literally retarded and can't understand what human expressions convey>FemShuro The expression is embarrassment, not disgust, horror, or arousal. Her lips are pursed, not upturn. Given how his relationship with MaleShuro went, Laius likely said something inappropriate or got too familiar with FemShuro under the assumption that they're friends. They are not. Being female in this AU, instead of bottling up her frustration until it explodes into violence she has gone to gossip about Laius with other women. >Marcille The expression is shock and confusion. Her mental image of Laius here has shady eye bags, making him appear depraved or manic. FemShuro likely does not have a charitable interpretation of whatever Laius did or said, and Marcille is surprised.>Farlyn The expression is extreme disappointment. She understands her brother best and usually translates the real intentions behind his clumsy statements, her Laius doesn't have the shady eyes. However it was probably bad enough that she will have a hard time smoothing things over.
>>290543116>epitaphSounds cool but I'd rather go with>THE ONLY GOOD MIMIC IS A DEAD ONE
>>290545553That reminds me he had to cut some characters after listened to the captain's backstory, even him can't stand the complexity
I really don't like Kabru's vibes.
>>290548836he gets lobotomized basically next time he shows up
>>290548324They mention that the food is better quality than they're used to, it might just be a morale/comfort addition.
>>290540138I now realize that Shuro's entire party of retainers were just waiting outside at like the inn. So the moment he got teleported to the surface he marched over got them all and immediately went into the dungeon. Probably the only reason they haven't met earlier is the head start Laios got the fact Senshi and Chilchuck probably knew some shortcuts. Like they most likely might have heard each other at some points in the dungeon. Funny to think about.
>>290548836I never really understood what Kui's intentions for him were.I thought she was setting him up as a potential atagonist due to his shifty nature but once he decided to not pursue revenge on Laois and company, I was like oh
>>290548931It's like she thought it would be cool to have Nega-Laios running around but didn't have a clear role in mind for him yet.
>>290548836I like how he changed his thought after the actual encounter, but it's pretty understandable if you hate the earlier him
>>290546565Give him the Oni girl, they're the perfect autism match, and she is already interested in eating monsters
>>290549118shes like 12 yrs old mentally
>>290549143Hot.
>>290547832The Adventurer's Bible depicts scenes where Falin is surrounded by friends, whereas Laios is shown as isolated. Furthermore, a letter from Falin mentions that magic school became enjoyable only after she made friends; while Marcille was her first friend, she was not her only one. Upon graduation, Falin had already secured a position as a town gravedigger—a stable, well-paid profession that commanded respect—portraying her as someone who had achieved social success.>>290547913Laios was a loser who had been bullied at school for his rudeness and had deserted the army.His success was built upon his knowledge of and fascination with monsters; had he achieved this while remaining indifferent to other people, he would likely have ended up as a Demon King.That future was altered by two friends—one who punched him while telling him to be more mindful of how others felt, and another who punched him while saying, "I wanted to be friends with you."This story is about his growth.It is precisely because he is capable of accepting such advice that he is a "good person."
>>290540460Not-Nippon blade is invisible!
>>290549359That's more of a description than an opinion, and kind of a strange one if you don't mind me saying, I was just asking if you liked him as a character or not.
>>290549143Damn, foiled again, really says a lot of Laius' mindstate when the most like minded individual is a 7ft kid.
>>290548931>>290548953Yeah, it feels like she had an idea for a foil for Laios that focused on humans instead of monsters, but determining what his actual role in the story was took a few chapters. Like in this chapter it feels like the set up is that Kabru is an enemy the party can't just beat up to defeat. Even if Laios' party beats Kabru's (not guaranteed, we see in this chapter Kabru is as good against humans as Laios is against monsters) no one in Laios' party is going to leave them dead, so Kabru can go back to town and badmouth them. But at the same time, Laios would barely care about that in the beginning, let alone after Farlyn's been dragged off to parts unknown. So then Kui spends a few chapters using Kabru to explore the town and society around the dungeon, which is a good place for him before the Canaries show up and Kabru becomes a care worker, in addition to becoming Laios' high-CHA pal
>>290547967>>290547994It seems you haven't read The Adventurer's Bible either.The reason Falin set out on the journey with Laios was that, seeing him in such a wretched state, she felt that if they parted ways there, she would never see him again. It is a mistake to attribute this to her own personal desires.Furthermore, what she gave up wasn't her studies, but a job opportunity.Besides, I know more about the conventions of Japanese manga than you do. Whether male or female, Shuro harbors the exact same feelings of aversion toward Laios. Laios is careless, insensitive, and has terrible timing. Your counterargument is nothing more than a rationalization forced upon the story to inject a romance element that isn't there.If the author had wanted to show that the reason the female Laios couldn't leave the village was a lack of will rather than her circumstances, she would have been depicted smiling while holding a baby.Laios was only able to lead a wandering life because he was a man.> His restaurant is on the surface.Do you actually think there’s a tent pitched on the surface with "Dungeon Diner" written on it?I’m starting to wonder if we’re even reading the same manga.
>>290549540Of course I like him, but what I meant to say was that this affection is rooted in his willingness to accept his own flaws and strive to improve. I’m saying that I didn’t like Laios at first—he’s the type of character who wins you over through classic personal growth.
>>290546482Sorry but Laios had like 10 kids with Marcille.
>>290549644>Furthermore, what she gave up wasn't her studies, but a job opportunity.Well she hadn't graduated yet, so yes her studiesShe just also had a job offer lined pending said graduation
>>290549644>The reason Falin set out on the journey with Laios was that, seeing him in such a wretched state, she felt that if they parted ways there, she would never see him again. It is a mistake to attribute this to her own personal desires.>Furthermore, what she gave up wasn't her studies, but a job opportunity.Sure, ok. I saw your panel with Falin having friends after Marcille. I'll just take your word at face value that she left to help her brother, frankly job opportunity and studies aren't a distinction I would make and dismissing all her other desires outside of helping her brother is ignoring her other character traits but whatever. But bringing Falin up to begin with was to comment on the nature of her response, and frankly even taking your points about their differences there's still not enough evidence to justify your interpretation of her reponse. >Besides, I know more about the conventions of Japanese manga than you do. Whether male or female, Shuro harbors the exact same feelings of aversion toward Laios. Laios is careless, insensitive, and has terrible timing. Your counterargument is nothing more than a rationalization forced upon the story to inject a romance element that isn't there.Ok, prove that Kui follows this convention of japanese manga so stringently you know so well to the point that you can be so sure that a textless panel with just facial expressions has only one possible interpretation. What are those conventions and show evidence in other manga to back your claims. You repeatedly bring in this wide sweeping generalization based on some kind of expertise, and frankly I've read a lot of manga and a lot of other people who think that panel is romantic has probably read a lot of manga saw romantic subtext. You have to give a coherent explanation of all this if you want to actually make an argument outside "I know better". Not to say there's been no coherent argument but incessantly spouting off about conventions isn't one of them.1/2
>>290549644>>290550280>If the author had wanted to show that the reason the female Laios couldn't leave the village was a lack of will rather than her circumstances, she would have been depicted smiling while holding a baby.Why. If Female Laios had no will compared to Male Laios and didn't go out into an adventure means she HAS to have a smile at her situation? Or she can still frown because she's in a marriage she didn't want that not only circumstances brought but also a personal attitude that could have changed and not just gender? Oh wait, let me guess. Conventions. Great.>Do you actually think there’s a tent pitched on the surface with "Dungeon Diner" written on it?Anon what was the reason I put that theoretical, having a restaurants at all in any area of the island already changes senshi's character that was my point and I outlined it.Why are being so arrogant with this2/2
desu imagine how annoying it would be for some brown twink to yell at you for "not caring about humans enough". I'd probably become a dungeon master just to spite and kill him.
>>290540362>>290540387Goddamn thunder thighs
>>290540417Enter
>>290540437I think Shuro is cool
>>290540483BBAchan is here
>>290540536Thanks OP
>>290540843That pic of someone being mad at other because they are a bit more autistic than them
>>290539849BIG CLERIC
>>290540172Oh no he's Laiosing out.
>>290542224Izutsumi knows what's up
>>290540843He's just being a tsundere, he admits that way later.
>>290540417She's a big girl.
>>290540387Imagine if somebody exploded a firecracker in your mouth.
>>290544050Not my problem, let a man be happy!
>>290545834A bunch of women talking together with worried faces implies problems
first time reader here, but i don't understand all the hate for kabrui went back and reread the last chapter, and then this one too, and i have seen him do literally nothing wrong so far
>>290546482LAIOS X THE ORC SISTER laios is the ugly bastard and rapes her
>>290550797Big hugs
>>290549359>Upon graduationdidn't she drop out to go adventuring with Laios?
>>290549143Tade is 17 though, and ogres reach maturity at 15
>>290550280>>290550297Everything is exactly as explained above. The blushing is caused by tears; as proof, I have attached an image from the story showing Marcille blushing while shedding tears. There is no smile on her face, and the mental image she holds of Laios is no different from how others see him—it lacks the overly idealized depiction often found in manga. In that very scene, Laios himself remarks that the outcome would be worse. There is absolutely no basis here to infer romantic affection. Demanding proof that such a basis *doesn't* exist is nothing more than sophistry. It is simply a case of someone new to Japanese manga misunderstanding the "blushing" trope and refusing to admit their error.If you claim that Fem-Laios wouldn't want to go on an adventure, then my assertion—that this manga simply swapped genders without altering the characters' personalities—proves to be correct. Furthermore, the male Senshi makes no attempt to drive out new adventurers who enter the dungeon, even when environmental changes occur, such as a decrease in the golem population. The idea that Fem-Senshi would never open a restaurant inside the labyrinth is a delusion based on your own misinterpretation. After all, this chapter was created as part of a magazine's gender-swap project; the very notion that their personalities might differ drastically from the originals—and not just their genders—is a baseless, far-fetched rationalization.
>>290551482I intended to write that I had already secured a job offer for after graduation. I apologize for my poor English skills.
>>290551379It's a meme, Kabron comes off as a bit of a spaghetti spilling moron himself by the end of the story so he's fun to rag on.
>>290551642ok anon
>>290549359I really feel bad for laios, he didn't have the opportunity to learn social skills like her sister, maybe because of gender propensities or maybe because their personalities are different after allBut Falin is such a good sister she is the glue to most social interactions they had to face with people, otherwise laios wouldn't have gone as far
>>290548953NEGA LAIOS
>>290551379He's self-righteous, inserts himself into everything, and makes a lot of assumptions on top of being a manipulative manwhore who's incompetent when it comes to dealing with monsters. Imagine entering the monthly thread, hoping to see more of the main party's adventure, only to follow Cabron's party as they retrace the main party's steps while badmouthing Laios and co.
>>290551780good anon
>>290542211>>290545467>>290545761That's pretty much what the Netflix subs said, basically "they aren't saints or anything, they simply don't give a fuck about others".
>>290551797I believe the opportunity was there, but he didn't learn because he "had no interest in people." Of course, it is true that Falin saved him from ruin, but for him to truly change, a voluntary realization was essential.
>>290545761He's saying that if they actually gave a shit, they'd realize they are being scammed and that there's others around them in genuine need of charity.
>>290551780>>290552067Getting real Thisle getting eaten by the lion vibes here
>>290552143Girls are naturally more socially adept than guys, so it's not a weird outcomeOr maybe just being around marcille also helped out falin
>>290551973
>>290552157>Is that lion really going to rape me? His name is rape lion after all
>>290552713omg I just realized nega laios would be black, like Kabron!
>>290540417Big bonk always a solid option.
>>290551797Laios takes after his father. It's a case of both nature and nurture, I won't spoil further details in case you want to see it yourself
>>290540843Leaders should be people persons and understand how people think.He nailed Laios (and to a lesser extent Falin) not really giving a shit (because they're autists) and thinks they're unsuitable for leadership positions, because they will be taken advantage off easily and do bad things unwittingly.
>>290539996>Since *they* were small. Kabru is well familiar with elf lifespans. He should know it'd be since Falin was small.
>>290542224True. Here's proof.https://exhentai.org/g/3224173/4631390097/
>>290551379because why he did nothing wrong, what's his setup make him to be villain kinda guy who who going to get whooped by main char to prove that MC have superior moralThis is when the manga still release monthly, so we dont know what is his deal is
>>290542224I have been vocal about Marcille being protective and not romantic with Falin because she sees short-lived as kids.But male Falcille... There's something to it.I interpret Marc as having more leverage in this new reality, that's why the duo splits from Laios. But why? Maybe because their bond is deeper. Maybe the desire to protect mixes more easily with romantic feelings for a guy.
>>290542224Lion make this just so he can temp the other into Dungeon Lord
>>290544571>Tbf they're only *slightly* deadwith Kabru doing what he could to make them truly dead
>>290544571You sound a lot like the elves, who experimented with that kinda thing.
>>290555207that escalated quickly
>>290554959Don't worry, I've read the series beforeNeat detail btw
>>290542224That'd make me more confused if middle-eastern women weren't already S-Tier for meI do appreciate that even in fem form, Laios has no idea who that is lol
>>290549143So am I. I guess I'm not cut out for love...
>>290554959>Laios takes after his father. It's a case of both nature and nurtureIt's a bummer that wasn't explored more. Laios and his dad being so similar was cool to learn about, but I can also understand why it was a footnote and not a plot point. Would've distracted and slowed down the plot. It makes you wonder tho more what his dad was like. He was probably just an autist about hunting and dogs as Laios was about monsters, but was so socially awkward, he never was able to click with his kids. Sad.
>>290541705Cool = power. Why do you think Wizardry had Ninjas?
>>290539972THE toudens
>>290540107I know what Kui thinks, but she's wrong in this count. Mikbell IS a girl, and SHE belongs on my cock.
>>290544485>unmistakable look of disgustanon, I...
You know, I feel like Laois and Falin are not autists. They are more like Meursault from "The Stranger".
>>290542211In this case EHScans is worse, though.
>>290542341Kindly fuck off with your twitter memes.
>>290547323>Fucks up and loses party's food>Party gets wiped due to hunger>Splits from group without even a talkI know she had money issues, but the way Kui wrote the whole setup still makes Namari look like an absolute asshole there.
>>290543293That's my read as well. >>290540107Mickbell's portrayal of Chilchuck is like a drug dealer would say the police are evil for spoiling his business opportunities. The union would probably demand that he pay his dogman bodyguard a proper wage and Mickbell makes excuses about his shifty arrangement. His opinion here should be taken with a giant grain of salt.
>>290548916On the point that Laios' party probably overtook Shuro. I sometimes see new readers (and shitposters) mention that Laios' party shouldn't waste so much time with their food antics, when in reality they where chewing through the dungeon in record time, especially when they managed to be faster than Shuro's overpowered party of retainers.
>>290557252Adventuring is dangerous I find it weird that Chilchuck wasn't the first one to quit
>>290557252I don't know what the etiquette for party loyalty. It might be super normal to commit only to one adventure at a time and not take consecutive delves for granted.
>>290540195If only he knew what the story has in store for him to wipe that smugness off his face. Kui managed to make one of my, at that point, least favorite characters into one of my top 5 on pure entertainment value.
>>290557593I wonder what would be a good way to emphasize that more. I do think the story has presented kinda feels like a lot of picnics. Particularly in the anime.There 's probably long hikes (but no fights?) in-between the chapters in which to work up their appetite and we simply time-skip them.
>>290556840Mr and Mrs Touden
>>290556919>more like Meursault from "The Stranger".They are not that bad. He basically could not feel empathy at all.
>>290557822Good question. In hindsight, maybe it would have been good to have the characters make an offhand remark about how long it usually takes to to reach, say, the castle town or the 3rd level, as they estimate their chances to reach Falin in time. That or maybe include some way to keep track of time, but that doesn't mean much if we lack a frame of reference.
>>290557593>>290557822We've gotten through exactly this first page of the timelineNine days have passed since the story started. Our guys have been stopping for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, plus snacks every dayThe only real stumbling block they've hit is the undine wiping out Marcille's HP and MPIt's interesting to note that these Kabru chapters are taking place four days ago
>>290540843Kabru's mindset is that everyone everywhere has goals and a plan to achieve them and would only act in service to these ends. Laios, for the most part, just does things because he likes it or to just be nice. Kabru thinks that he's pretending to cover up his "true" goals. He's so used to dealing with selfish people that when he meets a selfless autist he thinks it's a bit.
>>290556674My dad is the same, so was IOnce I learned his true nature we became more close
>>290559155A BIT WHAT?!
>>290557674You will found out later
>>290561392find"
>>290539849TENDERIZE MY MEAT BABY.
>>290545359Being slightly buzzed increases pain tolerance.
>>290545359It stops the shakes
>>290564515Unironically in this caseThey got those supplies off of less than reputable men remember
Maybe the morality of the whole DM world is "off". And necessary to even prosper.
>>290545359>>290564153I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless.If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and say, "hey bad guy! you're not supposed to be here. Go home or I'll stick you with my sword until you go 'ouch I'm dead'!"
Chapter 33
>>290568218cute worg
>>290568004Falin cult...
>>290568270>Go Chilchuck! Go out and zap to the extreme!
>>290568584the dryad looks so distraught
>>290568044Women will never understand
>>290568177Starting off this chapter with healthy amounts of Marcille abuse
>>290568270>>290568548Beat me to it
>>290568344The anime made them extra spooky
>>290568535nipple
>>290568344>interrupting group sexdwarves worst
>>290568584Those are some fat plant tits damn
>>290568877Iconic pagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsV6wk4nzPw
>>290568877there it is
>>290568004So pretty
>>290568877If these are pumpkins, then maybe the Behelit is just an evil tomato
>>290568923So the "male" ones are female and the "female" ones are maleOh right spore sacks, hah
>>290568177Nice callback to when Falin punched Laios in the chest during the Mad Mage incident. Probably cracked a rib there.
>>290568961What did Chilchuck notice?
>>290569253A dwarf cleaving the top of a head-pumpkin off.
>>290569051>>290569093Cute Marcille
>>290569213>this is a grown ass divorced man with three daughters Thanks OP
>>290569131Aren't they total opposites? like the difference between a sorcerer and a wizard in dndI don't know if that's a spoiler or not but just to be safe, I think it's something gotten into in one of the daydream hours and I don't know if dumpy is gonna do them eventually
>>290568584Bicep hot
>>290540417>>290540483I remember Tade having more absurd proportionsI'm guessing it changed overtime
>>290568877Love it
>>290568584how does a dryad tiddy taste? is it like a pear or more like a tomato? i'm with laios here, i really am curious
>>290569513That's an armpit
>>290569051I like how so many chapters have these downtime and non-action scenes thanks to the cooking premise. This kind of stuff is always my favorite part of any manga but it usually gets neglected to fit more plot development and action into a limited page-count.
>>290569051are her eyes supposed to be missing in the third panel?
>>290569131laios isn't the step-healer, he's the healer who stepped up
>>290569459we're using wizardry rules, not DND
>>290569459I think it was explained already that one commands the spirits and the other pleads with the spirits. Just a difference in attitude imo
>>290568961I always liked the group banter in DM. Chill teasing Marcille about the dog feels like a conversation that might happen in a friend group. And the manga has such a good balance of up- and downtimes.
>>290540536>every time. every time I meet their party this little faggot just stands there and makes this face
>>290569172Marcille is faster and can explode her opponents
>>290569213thanks opsama, happy sunday
>>290568004jesus christ op spoiler that shit
>>290568004Nope, she still doesn't do it for me.
>>290568004rape meat
>>290568004>Goblins want to replace this with orcs
>>290569897she's that angry
>>290568877Kek wonder why that's the thing to break her
>>290569051This particular Meshi inspired a lot of fanart
>>290571077A generous depiction
>>290571077I'm so used to seeing the edit I was confused for a second...and I lost the edit changing 'putersfuck
Good.
Morning
>>290571077Kui always draws Marcille's breasts so desirable but modestThis is very good but I like it how it's in the manga
>>290569213haha it's almost like the lion statue's part of their group and looking over them...
It's nice to see a daily for Dungeon Meshi. this manga is not all that ambitious, but it's a rare gem that (spoilers!) keeps quality from start to finish and adds up to a satisfying whole without any nasty curveballs
>>290556773Checks out. Cool and power is cool. This is why Laios is the strongest.
>>290572017I find it pretty ambitious and it's so well thought out
>>290568584Didn't expect the Dryad Ryona but hey, I can fap to this.
>>290571851Not the first the statue is "there"
>>290571077>>290571236This one?
>>290568044Alright, two day timeskip>>290568829Hunger bends Marcille's morals just like anyone else's >>290569093Happy Senshi helping the youngsters>>290569213Thanks OPGotta teach the guy with three kids about the birds and the bees>>290569459They're not really that different. It's more of an attitude thing. Elf style has you *command* spirits, it gives more consistent results. With Gnome style you *ask* spirits, it gives more varied results but is also more mana efficient.Marcille can do both, she obviously learned elf style from her mom, and picked up some gnome style while studying at the magic school
>>290568004SEXSEX WITH WITCHESSEX WITH ELF WITCHES(No sex with normal elfs though, fuck em [non-literally])
>>290569398SEPERATEDThere's a difference, it's like Jail vs Prison
>>290568270This is pretty heavy in retrospect, knowing Senshi's position as the young pup and what he was worried he was fed in an extreme situation
>>290571005Yet another step towards the forbidden dungeon meal: A human being.
>>290573772whatever you say, chimpchamp
>>290568957I fucking hate how much good buyfag merch I have to miss out on by not trusting importers
>>290569213Senshi preparing him to FUCK (AGAIN)Thanks for the read, OP. I'm having a lot of fun reading this with you all.
>>290569131Top-right panel... erotic.
>>290569051the way marcille blushes when she eats dungeon food...
>>290569131>>290574219there's some potential edits with this sequence of panels.
>>290540536There is a 1% chance this is a cat under that mask.
>>290568344>clicking on /u/ by mistake
>>290569131Job change to Paladin!
>>290568625I keep squinting at the pommel
>>290575759
>>290575697Nah, he's just a RANGERreaching LEVEL 8Wow, what a POWERFUL leader
sith marauder laios...
Vanguard Laios...
Falin's so hot
>>290569213Thanks, anonsito.
Guise .... I'm starting to find Marcille attractive
>>290577194If you didn't succumb to necromancer Marcille you should be in the clear
sex Marcille in all holes
>>290568218Orcs seem pretty cozy when they're not slaughtering noncombatants
>>290569897Since they're similarly absent even in the raws, I think they're just closed. Although it certainly looks like they're missing.
>>290568412I get that he never really came down to this level, but sometimes I wonder how Senshi survived in the dungeon alone for so long. One slip-up like this is all it takes.>>290568794I really like the idea of a wizard's staff being a living thing that has to be grown rather than just a decorative walking stick.
>>290569213hantan lyë avestaina
>>290435662
>>290568044Bromance.
>>290568270You think Sensi is the kind that goes>you have to eat all the eggs
>>290568306Remind me, this is part of the Winged Lion's power taking effect, right?
>>290575493Actually, if you look closely at >>290568344 the two flowers that are kissing have different sexes, so it is heterosexual intercourse.To make it weirder though, it seems like the "male" flowers are actually the ones with boobs, and the "female" flower has male proportions. Only the ones with breasts release pollen (containing the male sperm cells) when cut, and when the last one is decapitated, you can see a pistil-like structure (a flower's female reproductive end) here >>290568748Possibly the dryad grows flowers like this to further confuse humanoids that might threaten it.
>>290580001If you mean the desire to find food then maybe?
>>290568535Shit, I forgot these motherfuckers have that kind of shapeshifting capability.
>>290568877It's not like they're filled with brains.
>>290539849thick
>>290569093>not even disturbed by the mandrake's headGood, good... slowly but surely...
>>290569213Thanks.
>>290580069Yes, I remember the Winged Lion mentioning how they can always manage to find food when they need it.
>>290548916They took at least two shortcutOne with the living armor and painting that's probably only accessible if you have veteran half-foot that know how to handle all the trapsAnd then another one by the guidance of the orc that leads straight to red dragon's floor, I think it's the tentacle staircaseI don't think Shuro can handle either of those shortcut, the former because I don't think they have anyone as skilled as Chil, and the latter because Orc too savage to tell others about their shortcut, also no anti-tentacle counter-measure.
>>290540195The smile of pure sociopath
>>290580741>I don't think they have anyone as skilled as ChilI bet that was supposed to be izumi's job when they bought her.Stupid lazy kot decided to become an assassin instead and use her sensitive hearing for backstabs rather then trap duties.Needs correction
>>290540843He doesn't dislike them, he's just way too much of a drama obsessed weirdo and imagined all these scandals around them that either weren't real or weren't their fault. He usually acts very upbeat but in reality he's quite a pessimistic person who tends to instinctively distrust people until he gets to know them more. But since Laios never really spoke to him, he never came to understand how he thinks. Its only after they have their talk about chimera Falin's weaknesses later that he realizes Laios's true nature and how its nothing like he thought. (and by extension, its the point where he starts actively trying to help Laios conquer the dungeon.
>>290544571That's been investigated. The answer depends on the development of the fetus.
>>290580815Izu is way too stupid and stubborn to be trained for trap disarming/detection. Maizuru couldn't even train her to hold her chopsticks properly.
>>290568923> Don't take too manyLaios will remember that.
>>290580981Should have returned her and bought a dog girl insteadIt is funny they just dropped her so fast.
>>290581202Guessing Maizuru had wanted to be rid of her for ages but since she was technically a gift + in the employ of the family she couldn't say anything until Shuro did. I bet she was celebrating internally for ages after they left the dungeon.
>>290569213Thanks OP
>>290569213Even funnier when you know Chilchuck is married with 3 kids and Senshi is almost certainly a virgin.
>>290581826Definitely. He went into the dungeon at the dwarf equivalent of like, 13/14 years old, and he'd been an outcast orphan before that. Then after the whole miner group mess he explicitly didn't want to start fucking orcs because they'd start expecting him to lead raiding groups + seemingly only ever went to the upper levels/surface to buy spices, then come straight back.
>>290568218cute porc
>>290580286Yes, Mithrun says as much too. The dungeon will intentionally shift to try and lure people further in, and if you have a strong desire for food or shelter, it'll usually have some kind of pathway to it be made more obvious.It seemingly does all that without the DM's notice, so its definitely the lion subtly tweaking things.
>>290568135kek chillchuck making that pose
>>290569897>>290578333>You're so mad you even lost your pupil for secYou guys never seen this exaggeration?
>>290568923It's kinda funny how Senshi's environmentalism is kinda bullshit given the dungeon can just endlessly magic up more monsters, yet ultimately the wise move anyway because the Dungeon targets the greedy for fattening and slaughter. It responds and gets worse if you harvest and culll everything. Kui really thought things through for her analogies.
>>290569093>eating stewed heads inside a head dark elf...
>>290569459Not really. Ultimately its really just exactness costs extra manna, being vague costs less but you can cast the same spell twice and have one be worse or better than the next.
>>290576040Namari really should have stayed these dumb asses are NOT paying attention to their gear.
>>290582906Namari probably would've forced laios to give up the sword after they discovered kensuke in it anyway. Even if she had to take the sword apart to do so.
>dark elfMore like dork elf
>>290580023>it seems like the "male" flowers are actually the ones with boobs, and the "female" flower has male proportions.Thank God! I was afraid some female nipples had gone uncensored on a blue board.
would you a dryad?
MY dork elf
>>290568877>>290568957Wasn't there an edit of the behelit over the red one?
>>290547565>Chilchuckhes a guild leader
>>290582636It's not a bad habit to only take what you need and not overindulge at the cost of the environment.
Molest the 'chuck
>>290583224This, even if the dungeon can slowly self correct (or the DM can forcefully do it if they're still sane enough), fucking up the current ecosystem would do more harm than good in the short term, since over hunting/eating certain monsters could lead to larger/more dangerous ones taking their place until things settle back down.
>>290540417>>290545660
>>290573772So is Chillchuck getting fucked in the ass or not!?
>>290569575Yeah in later art ogre heads are disproportionally small compared to their bodies.
>>290583274Shit that's kind of what happened with the red dragon
>>290581881It would be cool if an orc taught senshi the ways into a woman and popped his cherry
>>290583021yes
>>290569575>>290583400Hey I got bad news for my dickAI slop knows her
>>290583111
We known that most of the race was create by human wishing their tribe to live longer/shorter, but did we even known what's the deal of Half-elf live longer than Elf and Human?
>>290585153They don't necessarily do.It's coin-flip. Because they are weird hybrids.Before anyone says this: hybrid-vigor is a meme.
>>290580955This is why Kui's world building is so good. She both avoids actually giving out a set answer but doesn't actually avoid that this is definitely fucking something humans (speaking in the broad sense that it covers in DM) would try to figure out but more importantly that this would skeeve out even some hardened criminals.The real power of DM's lore is not in the particular answers, but the ways in which it informs our understandings of the characters and helps both explain but also complicate their actions.
>>290585428Thanks, ChatGPT.
>>290585153The explanation we're given, which is mostly suppositions by the cast so it's unclear how close to the truth it is, is that hybrids are essentially recreating humanity from before the various demon wishes resulted in splitting them into the different races. Like the other anon said, this is variable, so not all hybrids will live the 1000 years Marcille expects, but it's still a reflection of a kind of "atavistic" throwback to an earlier period.
>>290585443How fucking dare you. I did not spend all my time pouring over these series and typing out inane shill posts to have someone accuse me of using a robot to do it. I've never been so fucking insulted on this board in my entire life.Fuck you.
>>290540417>create a girl who directly appeals to my specific tastes>make her a minor characterI will never forgive Kui for this.
>>290585509Sounds like something a robot would say.
>>290585509Ai shit even ruins arguing onlineIt's so over
>>290569897Removing the pupils of an angry person is a common form of exaggeration in Japanese manga. That also appears in the next scene.
>>290540290>>290540315Kraken got replaced awfully fast.
>>290548766This makes sense, thank you. Especially for Falin part.
>>290568535When you think about it, that dryad straight stab is one of the most fatal attack in the entire dungeon. It's very simple, very deadly, used by someone very fast and agile with near-human battle reflexes, nothing like the average slow and dumb monsters with non-fatal attacks. In term of danger they represent, Dryads outclasses every "mob" monsters so far in lethality, only unique boss monsters like the dragon/kraken/living armors, special encounters tied to a specific area, are potentially more dangerous than these flower motherfuckers running up to you and insta-stabbing you in the chest with shapeshifting extra long arm spike, instant death for anyone not wearing plate armor like Laios. I doubt chain mail would do a thing here, it'll just pop one ring and go through. I guess their one big weakness is cheap ranged attacks. These dryads are basically suicide troops that are extra fatal in melee, explodes with AoE debuff when killed, but have zero defence and 1 HP. Laios' party notably lacks a bow-and-arrow type character who can deal with this glass cannon bullshit, which made this encounter overwhelmingly more dangerous it should have been for another more balanced party. Being caught by surprise certainly didn't help. If these things spent their time fucking then you even get one or two free shots at them in normal circumstances!
>>290582626must be new to anime/manga
>>290573808More like Demon Desires,the final food
>>290568923Laios has a point thereHow are these okay but the merman fry that also don't look humanoid weren't?
>>290587368Probably because it looks like an onionBut if he's talking about eating dryad things in general he does have a point
I'm surprise we didn't see that the team eating worm yetThis is worm omelet btw
>>290580815Headpat correction
>>290569848you really need the added page count of a monthly manga for it
>>290568923Is that like Dryad Balut?
>>290585185>They don't necessarily do.Nothing in the manga has given this impression. Every time it has come up, it has been said they live longer.
>>290583021DnD dryads are like nymphs. They snatch men, charm them and sexo them for a few years, before releasing them back into the world once having had enough
>>290583021Fuck no, I get horrific hay feverImagine that on your dick
>>290547565I'd imagine that magic users as good as Marcille who are dungeon experts are actually rare. Laios just has that charisma and love towards the dungeons that attracts dungeon autists like magnets.
>>290568794Messy hair Marcille sexo
>>290588849you might love Mosquito Succubus
>>290589039Nah, I think it would be more fitting to say that Laios got Marcille in his party through high LUCK stat. Marcille is an above average magic user (most likely) but she wanted to study forbidden magic and therefore she would only join a party that has a leader that would cover up her heinous crimes. Thus she ventured with Farlin's brother since Laios would definitely omit reporting Marcille on Farlin's request. Plus she probably only planned going around studying strange runes and copying incantations, she ended up drawing way too much attention to her but originally she probably didn't plan to do anything too obvious and having both Thordens vouch for her would have been her safety net.
I wonder what Marcille tastes like
>>290578417He's only been ranging up to the water level so this is all understandably new to him.
>>290578417>I really like the idea of a wizard's staff being a living thing that has to be grown rather than just a decorative walking stick.only for dark elvesPattadol's staff is the fairy
>>290579662holy perspective shortening
>>290587657What's it made of?
>>290587657made of worm eggs?
>>290590033Italian
>>290590486I dunnoI just found it using google
>>290590734>>290590486>>290591255It seem that it was made by sandwormIt was called sandworm omelet
>>290590142Was their previous mage half-gnome?
>>290591306>>290587657Let's be real. The party has no time collecting worms for a meal, let alone a snack.
>>290581293I love this milf
>>290591505I don't remember making this post
>>290589091Any marcille with bags under her eyes is sexo
>>290539890Cuisinelets...
>>290590128technically, fairies are also living things that need to be grown
>>290590486You look a little pale and balding anon, I think you should go to the medic bay...
ah fuck I keep forgetting to spoiler images and not realizing until it's too late to delete them
>>290590486But it stings like you wouldn't believe
