>It's a Homo gets keked by Brazilian Night and LoC episode movieThis is /a/'s most beloved main character?
>>290596753Audio leak with TL machinehttps://files.catbox.moe/ct6p9x.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/hmp2q0.mp4What do we think about them? And why is Selma such a best girl?
I don't know Japanese. I haven't watched the movie. Here is my opinion:
Selma sex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBLUdFvF8Jw
>>290596753Homu is straight though.
Will we argue about what the ending means again or will we talk about anything else about the new movie?It depends entirely on if Homura is still the Devil or not btw
>>290596753I want to do that to MadokaFuck Walpurgisnacht
>>290599353what movie? nothing came out after the anime anon
>>290599333Straight gay!
>>290599506Just straight. The gay part is just you.
>>290599425This but with Rebellion To bad they never made a sequel...
>>290599546They did the Mami-centric sequel manga
She's like 14 bruh, she's too old for you.
>>290597483Selma is crazy sex
>movie flopped>ded thread>no cam rip>homu blue balledis truly ogre isn't?
>>290600018>movie floppedIt's doing fine and probably isn't shitYour right about the rest tho
It's disappointing and the ending is confusing is showing what it does regardless of wtf it shows. It's not surprising that threads have slowed Also, no Camrip is out yet. When one comes out I'm sure the threads will speed up again
>>290600018i can complain more about the death of the franchise if it makes you feel better anon...
A lot of other places have seemed to slow down on talking about it tooOnce we have a rip we will be back on track
>>290600018The movie didn't flop though
>>290600018>>290600115I can keep talking about why the ending is probably just the best possible version of episode 12, I can keep talking about the Bench, and I can keep calling Choka Green Kyouko Just sign this contract here
>>290578489>Ass-backwards version of the ending that fans wanted Fuck it, sure.
Not-Madoka is crying
Is there a reason Oriko never got an anime show, some OVAs or something?
>>290597948I know Japanese. I have seen the movie. Here is my opinion:It was good. About the same quality as Rebellion.
>>290600271People just don't care about spinoffs that muchOtherwise people here would talk about Magireco
>>290600334they just aren't good spinoffs, they completely missed the point
>>290600420>Posts the one good spinoff
>>290600431that's intentional anon
What I dislike>I think the new witch lore thematically goes against the original series's writing and devalues Madoka's wish somewhat>having the confrontation between the characters over the events of Rebellion be brought along because of new characters robs the existing cast of their agency>the confrontation between Madoka and Homura feels far too quick when the two of them really need to sit down and have a proper talk>making Kyubey the big bad again going forward feels unearned when he'd been thoroughly humiliated so far>this goes together with the general feel that both Madokami and Homudevil are being nerfed because they couldn't write around them being as powerful as they should>Green Kyoko is just there, and just so Kyoko can be there too>it doesn't actually matter what the ending is, it's achieved way too fast for any outcome to feel earned
>>290600649what do madoka and homura have to talk about? homu is just being stubborn, all she needs to say is "I'm ready now"
>>290600722Headcanon cope
>>290600795what is the headcanon here? it's literally what urobuchi wrote before being pushed to make it open ended to sell gacha
>>290600649>it doesn't actually matter what the ending is, it's achieved way too fast for any outcome to feel earnedYeah this is how I feel about itI like some of the ideas that have been suggested here but the ending being super ambiguous about everything makes them all feel less impactful.They really should've just talked about everything. You can still have Madoka do whatever she needs to anyway, but at least let Homura say something about it
>>290600722>Lets Kyubey have free access to the LoC through any of the other girlsGreat job, Homu
>>290600970Homura did say something about it. Very loudly. Rebellion is essentially her cosmic space rant about why Madoka leaving was wrong. And Madoka heard it too, just ultimately wasn't persuaded by it.
>>290599425>>290599546>>290596753>Episode 12 is literally a perfect endingOh they'll never top that.>Rebellion is somehow great and has a great ending tooTHEY DON'T MISS>Walpurgis movieUrobuchi bleeds after all. HE BLEEDS.
>>290601007>And Madoka heard it too, just ultimately wasn't persuaded by it.Considering how she was crying at the end I'd say she was. At the very least it's made her do something else compared to episode 12 while still leavingShe still just had to go though because of LoC bullshit. Even with Homu getting her super duper devil form
>>290600849Urobuchi himself said he wasn't convinced about that ending>And Madoka heard it too, just ultimately wasn't persuaded by it.Madoka gave the reason to Homura at the end. She asked Homura for forgiveness before telling her she was her greatest friend for everything she has done (including her actions in Rebellion). It's like it was said last thread, the whole point of the movie is tell "Homura was always right"
I do wonder how Homura returning to the LoC will work when she does actually bite the bullet. Considering that she's kinda not an actual Witch and is still the DevilI don't think the whole dreaming aspect will apply for her since she's already accepted the Witch part of her with flying colors Maybe she will just be having a normal nap the entire time, or maybe she can be wherever Madoka herself is while having insomnia
>>290601070She cries because she's kind and knows Homura is hurting. But she was never ever going to separate from the LoC no matter what Homura said or did.
>>290600649I really don't like the word "agency". It sounds weird and pretentious. >I think the new witch lore thematically goes against the original series's writing and devalues Madoka's wish somewhatOne thing is one thing. Another is another. It's like saying someone wishing ot delete weapons from existence goes against the writing, only because it was revealed later on the obvious outcome that they were invtented by consequence of human actions. I could understand it feeling forced or not very much elaborated how did no one ever accessed it and somehow Homura and Sayaka got in there, but that's another matter.
>>290601115Second half was for >>290601007
>>290601137>I really don't like the word "agency". It sounds weird and pretentious.You need to be over 18 to use this site.
>>290601115>the whole point of the movie is tell "Homura was always right"I think this is the best way to look at itHomura did nothing wrong and in the end got>A world where she can do whatever she wants (even if she doesn't seem to be interested in doing anything outside of where she lives)>Pretty much every Meguca she knows saying she should go after Madoka and no longer hating her>Madoka keeping her self existence while being the LoC (although we don't know if she knows that)>Maybe being able to call Madoka through the lizard phone Sure, Madoka is still gone but she can try again if she ever really wants to. She knows Madoka is suffering less and she might be able to actually speak to a Madoka that knows what she's been through for more than 5 minutes per universe reset.If Madoka really did have no choice but to leave Homura behind again, I couldn't imagine any way for it to be better for Homura
>>290600018There's no camrip because Japan is a high morals society, please understand. Once it gets released in dirty gaijin countries I'm sure we'll get a camrip fast.
>>290601124>She cries because she's kind and knows Homura is hurting.Holly cope.She's crying because she's sad about having to go back. She says it "Even if no one wants for this world", she herself doesn't want things to end like that but can't leave alone the souls of all the magical girls in the LoC neither.
>>290601124>But she was never ever going to separate from the LoC no matter what Homura said or did.Yeah, probably. It's not a exact remake of episode 12's ending and Homura is still smiling. So even if it's not good it's a better ending for HomuraRegardless the ending should've still been extended and the two of them should've actually had scenes together throughout the movie (at least like 1 or 2). Regardless of what the ending means
>>290601226I don't like the phrase "You need to be over 18 to use this site". It makes me realize we're all old and after this movie came out I'm having sudden fear of death.
>>290601254...and she's sad about going back because it hurts Homura. Read more slowly before your epic reply next time.
>>290601287Alright, Nagisa...
>>290601289>..and she's sad about going back because it hurts Homura.And because she wants to be together with everyone like she said in Rebellion.
Is it weird that this place and Jap Twitter have hated the movie the least?Like, I've been in every thread we've had since before the notebook was out, I've seen everyone flip their shit at Madoka, and yet this place still seems to not hate it as much. Even when talking about how the movie isn't good.I never would've expected fucking these threads out of all places online would be the ones to accept this movie the most easily
>>290601455I haven't seen the movie yet. And also it sounds interesting.
Do we have the full pamphlet yet?
>>290601455>this place and Jap TwitterIsn't that just basically everyone on the internet that's talking about the movie? What other sites are you even talking about?
>>290601521The greatest website is the voices in your head.
I can't tell if my favourite Meguca artist of Xitter is sad about the new movie or if they are just sad about everything again since they do that oftenThey really don't seem happy but they do that often
>>290601455I have been probably making 20% of pro Kaiten posts. So i would not say this place has many anons not hating it.
>>290601115>the whole point of the movie is tell "Homura was always right"LMAO; Homufags are fucking pathetic if you actually believe this astronomical level of cope.
>>290601634Nobody hates it or loves it because none of us have seen it. From the few anons who have (and supposedly aren't lying) their opinions range from "it's mid" to "I liked it."
>>290601634If you account for the Steins;Gate schizo's posts there's also much fewer anons hating it than there first appears...
>>290601455I only place I've seen that actually seems to unanimously dislike it was that discord server people mentioned just after the movie came outThose niggas seem miserable about it. They haven't even found the enlightenment of 'better loC + Phone theory' so they can cope about the movie being good like I've been doing
What i like of Kaiten is that tell us more about how the OG staff think about Madoka Magica. This is an acceptable extension for them and carry how they see Madoka Magica.Maybe for some fans Madoka Magica was something different, nothing can be done about it.You need to appreciate the movie because if the new movie doesn't come soon maybe the next staff will barely resemble the OG staff that made the Kaiten and everything before.
>>290601652Nice proyection.
>>290601634A lot of the anti-Kaiten posts on day 1 were mine and a lot of the pro-Kaiten posts from the last few days have been mine as well.Pretty much no one here has seen it anyway so it's pointless outside of any fun you can get out of talking about it. It's probably alright, who knows yet
>>290601521Reddit but they're cocksucking it hard last I saw.
>>290601631>All of them are pictures that are merely profound in appearance but meaningless. >Masturbation to clear away jaded emotions. >Public masturbation using characters that others cherished and nurtured.
>>290601735what discord
>>290601811Really? I thought everyone was dooming there
>>290601834Maybe they've gotten based and are then.
>>290601812lmao
>>290601821Some faggy reddit one
>>290601812>Steins;Gate faggot can't appreciate artMany such cases.
Imagine, if you will, a Madoka parody of Heathers the Musical.
>>290601865Anon... That's what the artist posted after that drawing that picturehttps://x.com/takeraka_create/status/2094466030747971612/photo/1https://x.com/takeraka_create/status/2094476777397887192
>>290601931Don't expect the SGschizoschizo to have a working brain.
>>290601931That's a really humble person then. I wouldn't describe their art that way at all.
what did homura mean by this?
>>290601931>after that drawing that pictureI feel like my reading comprehension has taken a nosedive after staying up for 40 hours straight last week
>>290601947Whatever Steins;Gate tard. I'm sure if you spend 5 more years of your life on this crusade maybe by the end of that you'll actually accomplish something.
>>290601951They are really hard on themselves which sucks because they make stuff than most of the artists making stuff for this series
>>290601981>I'm sure if you spend 5 more yearsHe spent more than 5 years in his crusade? Holy shit, Steins;Gate tard is really pathetic. He achieved nothing.
>>290601952Madoka's about to send Kittymura to the shelter for her own good
>>290602009>because they make stuffbetter stuff>>290601952I want to hold that cat
>tfw no Kaiten announced in near theatersThe distribution of Kaiten sucks in Latin America. It's over.
>>290602019I actually know roughly how long it's been but I won't say. I'm just waiting to see how many more years he uses up before he realizes fighting a "who has less of a life" competition with the Madoka fanbase was a stupid idea.
A positive of this new movie is that we get a bunch of new art
>>290596753There it is. The fingers!
>>290602104I have heard he has been mad since Madoka v/s S;G shitposting from the past decade.
If it does take another 13 years for the next thing, whatever it is, to come out, will we get as many fan continuations as we did for Rebellion during the same timeframe?I feel like there will still be some that just ignore Kaiten or pretend that Madoka didn't leave at the end (ignoring Kaiten +) instead of trying to build off of how Kaiten does end. I don't blame them tho since fan stuff like that (with everyone alive) has existed since before Rebellion came out
>>290596753Love you meguca
She did nothing wrong
>>290602307Apparently she gave up.
>>290602323And then she ungave up after getting hyped up by everyone
>>290602107Won't get it until the spoiler ban lifts. I've been seeing lots of short ambiguous twitter fanfic however.
Sayak, my beloved.
>>290602551If I'm a Sayakafag will I enjoy this movie? It sounds like I'd fate better than Madokafags or Homurafags.
>>290602592Sayaka got a ton of stuff to do while working with Homura
>>290602592Out of everyone whose watched the movie, only the sayakafags seem to be happy
Sayak
>>290602717I remember this
>>290602659>only the sayakafags seem to be happynone of those anons but fuck yeah, never been more happy to be a syak fag.
>>290602717This makes Inu Curry's heart grow three sizes
sayak
Idk I'm starting to agree with the anons who say the writing sucked in Rebellion too and the good writing was only in the original. >Sayaka: Yeah, I dont regret killing people or ruining lives or anything, I only regret I didnt spend more time with youLike bruh
>>290602853Since when did Steins;Gate fag start saying bruh
I love sayak's Halloween costume. So cute she wanted to go as a mummy.
>>290602853>>290602880i agree, seeing the word br*h in 4chan in jarring, can you cease and desist please?
Steins;Gate is awful bruh
Trick or Treat
Selflessness is a core theme of the series. Madoka taking on everyone's despair. Sayaka choosing to accept her death for the good she brought. Even Homura being willing to "shoulder any sin" if it means she can give Madoka what she thinks Madoka wants. It's really sad that so many fans seem incapable of understanding selflessness and view everything through an egotistical lens. They cannot conceive of doing something for others with no return and so they misunderstand everything about the series.
>>290602914nta but the world is changing old man. Expect tung tung sahur to become oldfag language on here in the future, and that's if 4chan even exists by then
>>290602853Nah fuck offRebellion was and always will be an amazing movie
>>290602880His body is getting older, but his mind is regressing younger.We call this...a manchild.
>>290602853I know it's your autism talking but sometimes people say things dependently from the situation they say them in. Saykyki had no reason to bring up any of those things when she was talking with the red one. You'll never learn to rizz if you don't realise the contextual influence.
>>290602853>I'm fine with killing those people but I regret not hanging out with the homeless woman more oftenBased Sayaka
I need to rizz up Saykyki right now bruhs
>>290602853Steins;Gays don't have the IQ to understand it, except for rare chads like Max.
Sayaka fans wonSayak fans won and even Saykyki fans won
>>290602853>Sayaka loves murdering peopleThats why shes best girl
Why would she regret killing those guys?Actually, every member of the Quintet + Nagisa has killed someone before, right?Or have we not actually seen Mami kill someone yet
>>290602956Good intentions done by a retard can lead to worse outcome. That's what brought all problems in Kaiten.
>>290603096Mami has killed the most. She has killed at least billions of my sperm between her boobies
>>290603096>Or have we not actually seen Mami kill someone yethello????
>>290603096I forget but did she kill Kyouko in TDS? I know she killed herself but I don't think that counts
>>290603125The retard in this case being whoever wrote the final script.
>>290603158Fuck wait how did I forget this? wtf
>>290598159We gotta show her what's the real usefulness of a woman's body!
>>290603158They should've kept all the girls wide like this
>>290603096Even if you assume she did kill them in the show she didn't kill them in the new timeline.
>>290603057>He doesn't knowOh sweet sweet summer child
>>290603215Indeed>>290603222She can do it againShe has time on her hands. I'm sure Homura wouldn't give a shit and it's not like Madoka could do anything about it anyway
>>290603175Kaiten is kino.
>>290603214If she fell in love with a person I'm sure her problems would've been solvedDon't fall in love with aliens/concepts/ideas, AnonsIt doesn't go well
>>290603286>Don't fall in love with aliens/concepts/ideas, AnonsIt doesn't go wellWhat do you mean? Curious
>>290603175That would be whoever wrote 'Kanata' then since they changed the ending lines because of the songSomehow I feel like if that was their only contribution they would be the least retarded person to touch the script
>>290603312>What do you mean?There was once a girl who fell in love with a conceptDidn't go well for her
>you dont love me>you love the concept of me
>>290603346Oh my god please kick me with your sexy legs until I can't move Homu
>>290602592>>290602659The only way a Sayakafag would be disappointed with this movie would be if you want her to continue being bitterly stubborn about opposing Homura and never coming around to Junko's lesson that sometimes doing the wrong thing is necessary for a better outcome. Or if you get butthurt that Nagisa calls her a loser when she's moping after remebering everything.
>>290603372>>290603346On a serious note, how do you know when you actually love somebody and not just the idea/concept of them? ://
>>290603373I'm sure she'd do that if whoever she loved asked her to
>>290603372Madoka would say this
>>290603390Unf
>>290603383when you like them for who they are not who you wish they were.
>>290603383Good question, MaxGood question
>>290603383you don't, and obsessing over this difference will drive you crazy, so let it go and just try to treat people are real, independent beings
>>290596753I liked Homura in the original anime. She was a tragic hero with a bittersweet ending,Then rebellion turned into a rapist femcel who screwed over countless magical girls. She deserves to suffer.
>>290603158Megucas aren't people.
Proof I actually saw the movie. The only way I can put a positive spin on the interpretation of the ending is that Homura no longer harbors such deep self-hatred because literally everyone else encouraged her to keep doing her devil thing. The Law of Cycles may have gained the upper hand in this cosmic tug of war but there's no reason why Homura can't take it back. Thinking on it further, maybe the whole reason this sidequest exists is to justify why all her friends would be on board with Homura when they actually get around to the saving Madoka part, instead of Homura once again going at it alone.
>>290603595Oops
>>290603557>rebellion turned into a rapist femcelYeah, she totally wasn't a femcel when she was obsessively resetting the world to save a girl she knew for a whole month.
>>290596753I heard HomuSaya won, is it true?
>>290603547>>290603490I feel like I got a couple useful distinctions > truly happy to be around them even when your not getting attention, affection, or reassurance from them>Can accept that they will/ can disappoint you>Genuinely want to know them on a deep level Not really obsessing over it, just overthinking for a second there I guess.
>>290603639Bigly.
>>290600649I felt like they were building up to QB being the big bad even back in Rebellion, just in a different way.
>>290603595Something about Homura no longer hating herself could and probably is true even if it isn't the whole point of it. What do you think of some of the other idea's that are floating around in this thread if you've heard them?>>290603650You and her will be alright, Max. Just believe in yourself and hold onto hope man
>>290603383When you're into fucking their unconscious body.
Back in my day, bait was believable
>>290603595I mean, the real conclusion of the movie is placing QB as big bad again, his cocksleeve is basically the villain of the movie. Hell, considering all the evil magical girls introduced in spin-offs I'm shocked they never had a magical girl dedicated to QB until now.
>>290603595>The Law of Cycles may have gained the upper hand in this cosmic tug of war but there's no reason why Homura can't take it back.So, how likely this is >>290578489?
>>290603728I don't think it matters that much, they will have to join forces to defeat QB/the Incubators.
>>290601931>Of course, I'm just drawing based on the ideas up to the rebellion.Seems they are doing alright againFalse alarm, probably
>>290603815can you not lewd the fucking megucas please
>>290603728How is this the only satisfying ending explanation that I've heardwtf
>>290603638That was just a lonely, loser girl who found her first friend. It was more like desperation than creepiness. She had become trapped in a cycle as the only thing preventing the end of the world. And her only friend was the only constant lifeline to hold on to. In the end she had enough decency to offer Madoka’s mom her ribbon, even knowing that was the last trace of her. Something the rapist femcel version would never do.I know it’s hard to look back on her in a favorable light after rebellion reframed everything, but that initial tragic heroine is what made people like her. Devilmura is an abomination to anyone who isn’t a braindead gooner.
>>290603828Can'tGirl are too lewd already
>>290603861>GirlGirls
homu the cuck
>>290602717>>290602835A bak.
For the love of life
>>290603639Japs are writing multiple comedic xitter skits of homusaya right now
>>290603700Man, you're the best. It means a lot to me everytime you give me encouragement. Thank you.>>290603815If I hadn't just fapped not too long ago this image would've made me instantly start leaking
Does anyone really care about her?
>>290603952We'll defeat this.We may lose it all but we'll go down fighting.Won't we?
>>290604109>Thank you.You don't need to thank me man.Just keep working on it and find your happiness.
>>290603844>It was more like desperation than creepinessSame thing. You're not less of a loser just because you feel sad.>She had become trapped in a cycle as the only thing preventing the end of the worldHer fault for building up Madoka so much in power, and she could have just killed her to avoid it.>that initial tragic heroine Cope.
>>290604180She could redeem Johan, somehow. If he became a Meguca I'm sure she could
>>290604109You talk like a teenager in love, sounds a bit cringe. I thought you were a mature man.But i'm not trying to stop you, anyone is free to speak, just giving my opinion.
>>290603700One of the more out there ones is that Madoka somehow took on the devil role in order to preserve her existence because she answers the tokagesan phone, presumably because she said/something to rebuff the Law of Cycles, which leaves Homura as... demoted to meguca I suppose. I don't think that's true but it's something.>>290603726She really feels like the writers were taking a jab at the armchair utilitarians who post theories that Kyubey was right, particularly with how grating her voice was.>>290603728I don't think the narrative supports that for multiple reasons. The line drawn between Madoka and the Law of Cycles is made deeper both in the visual storytelling and even explicit dialogue. Homura is told something to the effect of "you're the only one who calls the name 'Madoka' over 'Law of Cycles'" as part of encouraging her. This is a callback to Marguerite/Wasu's desire to preserve the names of her fellows.Perhaps more importantly, that theory contradicts the role of the devil. The devil is someone who opposes the cosmic order, not works with it. And Homura is explicitly told not to do the "right" thing, but to be a devil.The cosmic yin yang theory has been around since Rebellion and might still be in the cards for the future, but it requires Homura to change her role from devil to something else.
>>290604252>You talk like a teenager in loveNothing cringe about that.
>>290604252Lol, I've actually always been mentally underage asf.
>>290604252Why would anyone who blogposts about his "love" life here be mature
>>290604326Exactly
I love Sayaka. I could blog post about her but I'm going to wait until I see the film.
>>290604270>I don't think that's true but it's something.InterestingI haven't actually heard that one before. I entirely get why Homura would be happy about that thoThe LoC is fine and Madoka stole her job (or maybe now they are co-workers somehow if Homura wasn't demoted). Unless Homura also forgot everything then there's no way she'd be upset about it. it honestly feels too sweet
my very best friend...
>>290604270>The devil is someone who opposes the cosmic order, not works with it. And Homura is explicitly told not to do the "right" thing, but to be a devil.I mean, under that theory Homura still will be trying to break the order of the world to recover Madoka in hte future. It's just tha she will be playing along with the new status quo until she figures something.
>>290604270>Madoka somehow took on the devil role>Imagine that Madoka now has a harder task due to thatThe writers will need to address the ending seriously because the endings go from very sad to happy. A fan can't live like this.
>>290604270>which leaves Homura as... demoted to meguca I suppose.Homura's ring changed since she became the devil. It her ring at the end remains the same (with the latin runes that indicate her status as devil), she's still the devil.
literally who cares about the new movie or its ending, make up whatever headcanon you want and include your OCs, that's what they did anyway
>>290604270I still like to think the yin-yang theory is true solely because it's still bittersweet enough for me to see it as an end that's still not great but not horrible eitherPlus, if the 'The loC is better because Homura did what Wasu did for Magical Girls, for Madoka, and allowed for Madoka's existence to be intact idea' is true than I could still see it working. Especially if you add on that guy who was tried to connect it to Hegelian Geist a few threads back.
I actually really like theology posting in these threadsOne of the reasons I loved Rebellion so much was all the theological and metaphysical themes.
>>290604522Okay! Sayaka loves me and we go on adventures together and have steamy lovemaking sessions afterwards.
>>290604450I like that we've gone from 'Madoka is a massive cunt and Homura should move on' interpretations of the ending to 'This is too sweet and ends better than Rebellion'We really do need them to explain it
>>290604456>Homura and Madoka are now co-workers and the LoC is their boss
The best part of these threads is that every thread we come up with a new explanation for how the film endsI hope this continues for a week even after a Camrip is out
>>290604614There's something about that which is so Madoka Magica. Like it's a part of the series identity.
Has anyone else tried asking chatGPT to summarize the film based on what Japanese users are posting online?
>>290604659Steins;Gate schizo has already been doing that for days with all of the negative points he can find.
>>290604544Yeah sameAll the themeposting is nice
>>290604683I'm kinda behind I guess, I've been sleeping a lot and was mostly speed reading any threads I've seen the past three days
>>290604730The short of it is he's been using AI to generate negative shitposts about the movie and samefagging at the speed of sound for the last few days. You'll see him posting again in like 4-6 hours anyways.
>>290604730>>290604760He's also been doing this too:>>290603546>>290603641>>290603737
>>290603639yep yepmaduka lost
The way I understand it the state of HomuMado is left ENTIRELY ambiguous
I want her hairy cunt in my face
>>290604850Homura is happyMadoka isn'tAnd that's about everything we can agree onBroadly I think the 'better LoC' idea is the correct oneStuff like >>290578489 >>290544329>>290575083>>290592783>fusetter.com/tw/y8CMIYPJbeing broadly how we are meant to look at it. Although at this point who really knows
>>290603158who did she shoot here again
>>290604950Which would mean that Madoka and Homura are... Well, Homura is still a crazy bitch in love and Madoka is still Madoka. So, not much changes then
>>290604956Sakura Kyoko. You may have forgotten about her. The Magica Quartet did too.
wasu cucking homu doujin better be in c109
If I wasn't busy today I'd try making a guide to all the ending ideas we haveThere's like 9 by this point, right?
>>290604997Good.
>>290604956Wasn't it qb after discovering the truth of soul gems
>>290604997She's the girl who fights Green KyoukoHow could anyone forget her?
>>290604392>>290604450>>290604456Like I said, I don't believe the Madodevil theory is true, because the ending puts so much emphasis on the idea that the devil role is something only Homura can do because of her love of Madoka. >>290604406>>290604526>>290604544It doesn't square with the sequence of both the Law of Cycles and Madoka disappearing. To extrapolate on that, I don't buy the idea that Homura was mindwiped not only because it doesn't align with the affirmation that Homura is the devil. I think it's pretty clear that the intent is that even though she was beaten here, she remains the devil and will continue to fight for Madoka's happiness. On the flipside of that, I can't buy that this is anything close to am unequivocally happy ending because Homura is asleep through those scenes.I just thought of something, that the reason Madoka sheds a tear is because she realizes that she does not have the power to save Homura. Perhaps what she tells the Law of Cycles is to allow Homura to exist as the adversary. This is the best outcome she can come up with because she understands that both making Homura forget about her and trying to force Homura to accept her absence both break her. Which comes back to explaining why Homura is smiling, if literally everyone up to and including Madoka accept and encourage her to fight against the cosmic order, why should she hate herself any longer?
>>290605174>I just thought of something, that the reason Madoka sheds a tear is because she realizes that she does not have the power to save Homura. Perhaps what she tells the Law of Cycles is to allow Homura to exist as the adversary. This is the best outcome she can come up with because she understands that both making Homura forget about her and trying to force Homura to accept her absence both break her. Which comes back to explaining why Homura is smiling, if literally everyone up to and including Madoka accept and encourage her to fight against the cosmic order, why should she hate herself any longer?I would hate this
>>290605244>>290605174On that note, remember all the Nietzscheposting spawned by Rebellion?>What if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more' ... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.'The biggest disjoint between Homura and amor fati was that she was miserable out of self-loathing and self-flagellation. If she's smiling because she's resolved that, then she's overcome that disjoint and meaningfully grown.
>>290605174I mean, it's pretty clearly not an unequivocally happy ending and Homura pretty clearly wasn't mindwiped. Those don't really contradict that idea. If anything it just makes it so that Homura is an unwilling participant to this new order who wishes to disrupt it and regain Madoka. >if literally everyone up to and including Madoka accept and encourage her to fight against the cosmic order, why should she hate herself any longer?Even then something like that could still connect to it if we are meant to see both of them as being the god vs devil of Meguca's in contest with each other. Especially if Homura is a less than willing participant (similar to how most religions where there is a devil see the actual devil)The base still works even if it has to be modified a bit. I'm still a believer
