Chapter 1192 Spoilers
>>290623103Bumping the actual spoilers thread.
When is Imu going to kill Usopp?
>>290623103Luffy and Loki already surpassed Roger and Rocks
>break weak for another big punchsome actual niggas consider one piece to be the next Dante's Inferno and Iliad btw
>>290623256You probably don't know who wrote any of them and what's the difference between the Odyssey and the Iliad.Shut up, dumb Ultinigger and go spam your whore in other threads.
>>290623103It’s amazing how Imu is failing at everything when it comes to being a villain: boring fights, ineffective attacks, weak dialogue, and no stakes. He didn't even succeed in his primary goal of kidnapping the children, what a shitty character.
>>290623351excuse me how's that relevant
This is just insanely boring ngl. Love one piece but this fight is god awful
nothing ever happens
>>290623256I guarantee reading those weekly would have been terrible as well
>The fight with Imu is actually longer than Gojo vs Sukunaand that was an insanely long ass fight that went forever. Why the fuck does SHITda want to be a fightfag manga like JJK so badly when his fights are shit?
I still haven't read the spoilers
>>290623468you cannot be older than 14
SO THOU WERT ALIVE AS WELL, LYING ONE LIKA!!!?!?
>>290623103why is Gaban such a annoying weak faggot?>noo run away stop fighting you need to last only one chapter like me!!
>fighrfaggotry written by an author who cant draw fights is le... badWho would of thought mateys. Insane revalation right here
>>290623499He's probably cooking something, not sure what though. Could be an Usopp moment, a Luffy powerup, someone's death, Imu revealing something important when he reaches his limit, who knows
>>290623508Are you going to try and fuck me now?
>>290623575Gaben is annoying, but this still makes Rayleigh look worse because at least the Giant Eater is trying.
>>290623583I miss Enies Lobby.
Now that Warm Piss is forever shit and Gear SHIT killed it, how the fuck did Bleach become the best of the big 3? People thought it was the worst one like 15 years ago
>>290623583you're full of shit One Piece has decent fights not too long ago with Katakuri, it did had higher standards before and that's what most of us are judging it by, a decline is not acceptable
>>290623657>Now that Warm Piss is forever shit and Gear SHIT killed it, how the fuck did Bleach become the best of the big 3? People thought it was the worst one like 15 years agoHaha No I think it's the second worst
I'm already tired of Imu and I'm just waiting for Blackbeard to get rid of him already.
>Loki hits Imu>Imu tanks and beats him>Luffy hits Imu>Imu tanks and beats him>Gaban hits Imu>Imu tanks and beats him>Luffy and Loki recover>Loki and Luffy hit Imu>...This is the last 5 months btw lmao. Riveting content. Also its like 1 chapter per attack for some goddamn reason
save this manga Kyarotto
>>290623709You're gonna be waiting a looong time
>>290623680to be fair, Katakuris fight was like the only good post timeskip fight and I like that fight a lotI sometimes wonder if HACKda had someone else make that fight for him while on vacation or drawing that fight was so difficult it broke his hands so he made sure to never draw one like it again
imu needs to kill gaban and usopp asap for the sake of this arc and this manga.
>>290623575he doesn't want Le chosen one to die a needless death when he is clearly not ready to fight IMU
Imu's powers stopped being cool after he left Gunko. Like it was awesome seeing him pull out a shotgun because that's never been done before, hard to think any major villain who even uses guns, and it maimed Dorry and Broggy to boot. Seeing him pull out a bunch of swords and shit isn't interesting though, especially when they do nothing. Also maybe I'm just putting too much emphasis on the devil motif but I kind of expected him to do some wilder things with his magic, even something generically demonic like flaming skulls and making the sky rain blood would be cool, but all we have is black fire that doesn't really do anything considering Sanji's all fine.
>>290623758I think it showed Oda can be a great writer when he focuses on a single character instead of trying to juggle a few dozen
>>290623758dressrosa had some decent ones like Barto vs Gladius and Franky vs Senor Pink, they are great by current standards at this pointalso Kuzan vs Garp is great feud wise even though the anime had to fix the actual action
Kekmu killed the hype.
>>290623709This is the one retarded cope you faggots jump to from villain to villain since Caesar back in Punk Hazard. Oda cant draw fights and if you think he will magically draw an entertaining BB fight then you are delusional, theres a reason he off-screens 99% of fights and 100% of BBs fights because they all develop to this tier of slop eventually. He cant into cheorography and will always just draw a fucking turn based combat fight. At least Oda knew his weakness back then because he skipped fights, now hes trying to do a Sukuna vs everyone type of fight and its just falling flat on its face because hes out of his depth when it comes to drawing action. Its boring, really fucking boring
Didn't read.
>>290623808Yeah I wish people would talk more about Oda's lack of creativity.
>>290623818kekmu is the definition of style over substance
>>290623680This is true, but then again Katakuri vs Luffy was a more even match. This fight is a bit like the first Kaido round or as if WCI Luffy had fought Big Mom. Luffy is outmatched due to a lack of meta knowledge and all he can do is punch the air, pretty much.
>>290623850I'm wet.
>>290623733She'll be back hopefully soon
>>290623808Oda has never been able to draw fights, gear 5 has all the creativity in the world and he still just punches like a retard. He skips all his fights because he cant draw them, its that simple.
so is this like Imu's strongest form? but now he cant access it since he killed Saturn
From the author who brought you>PUNCH HARDER>SLASH HARDER>KICK HARDER
>>290623816>Franky vs Senor Pinkmaybe the anime improved it but it was basically just this in the manga>I SUPLEX YOU>NO I SUPLEX YOU>NOOOO I SUPLEX YOU>NOOOOOOOOO I SUPLEX YOU>I have a sad backstory>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I SUPLEX YOU HARDER I WINThis is basically every oda fight in a nutshell when it isnt a luffy fight. Hell Zoros dressorosa "fight" was just one anime attack and it was over. Like zoros fight was a single fucking panel lmao
>>290623850My pussy has dessicated, take responsibility
>>290623930fair but we did get the bare minimum to learn something about the character that franky is fightingwhat have we learned about sommers and killingham?
>>290623103>Where was this guy just now? HOLY KEK
>Yamato’s POV every morning
>>290623887Killingham...
The fact that NO ONE ever stays done makes all these fights, punches and powers are fucking trivial, thats the problem. Luffy and Loki got pierced 50 times and they're up like nothing, Hajrudin is up again, Usopp is up too and Imu is immortal so basically anything that hits him get shrugged off like nothing because Oda is gonna show him clean come next chapter. It feels like a waste of fucking pages. Holy fuck 5 months and 13 chapters and we are back to zero, fucking shit, fucking OFF SCREEN the fight
>My name is Monkey D. Luffy! I love older women because they can perfectly cook meat! I will become king of the pirates!
>>290623833What do you mean>BB tries to act cool with Gura Gura spam>BB gets hit and cries like a bitch>Just kidding, Black Vortex! Zehahahaha!>Rinse and repeat isn't fun?
>>290623995>Hajrudin is up againApologize NOW
>>290623930Theres a lot of historical revisionism going but this is all Odas fights. I genuinely tune out of most of them unless theres an emotional hook that comes with them. Katakuris and Senor Pinks eprsonalities and stories made their fights fun at least. Imu is a stoic faggot who barely says anything and nothing seriously hurts him so its just slop
>>290623995actually it seems like Imu cant regen in this form which is the one thing thats interesting
>>290624035this didn't happen with Law, he actually took the move that broke Big Mom's bones like a champ then the fight with one sided after he said foot on the island
>>290624035Still better than:>You aren't Joybo-ACK
At least people talk about Usopp and wait for his big moment though it may never comeImagine being a Jinbefag or Frankyfag, like what do you even do
>>290624001Yes, happy birthday Hancock.
>>290624075>Still bette...They are both horrible.
>One arc later. I am… Forgotten.
>>290624096Hey I mention Franky often about how he finally has a power up but it wasted in a mob...speaking off, which that fat fish nigger jinbe ruined by being in the panel, like geez couldn't Frankie have this moment to himself, all the fat fish did was jiggle the belly, she really fucking sucks
>>290624075>arguing characterfaggotry when the entire point is that the author is physically incapable of drawing a fight that is fun and engagingThis is why some of you genuinely have sub 70 IQ
>>290624119...And nothing of value was lost.
Imu was better when he was a blob. Just like this manga was better when Carrot was in it.
>>290624119gear 5 gunko soon
>>290624119good
>Oda single handedly killing his entire fightfag fanbase by showing the most pathetic display of a battle shonen fight in a whileBased... I guess?
>>290623930Considering that this was Franky's biggest fight in the timeskip it kind of pisses me off thinking about it and I hate the fact that it's so loved. It's like if Sanji's only fight for years was with Wanze.
ITT: illiterate SHITmu pacos and abdullahs melting down
>>290624215it is overrated yeah
>>290624195Honestly, the narrative isn't good either.
>>290624215>>290624239It's not overated in the slightest, you guys are merely fight choregraphy faggot while everyone else judges the fight on its writing.
>>290623103I hope there's more than that in the chapter. One punch and Usopp giving a big-pants speech after not contributing anything of note yet feels like very little content for an entire chapter.
>>290624119
>nothing happensI would be surprised if it was the other way around
>>290624255is good but people act like it justifies everything with Franky in post-ts, at THAT point it gets overrated
>>290624249I don't know that yet.
>>290624215I fucking laugh anytime a one piece fan goes "YOOOOOOO FRANKLY VS SENOR PINK FIRE". He is a retarded baby with an overrated and completely random/irrelevant backstory that was partly his fault and THE ENTIRE FIGHT WAS DOING THE SAME SUPLEX LIKE FIVE TIMES UNTIL FRANKLY WONIts fucking embarrassing. If Oda didnt go all in on fightfaggotry than who cares but he is so its now okay to judge how bad these fights are
>>290624035BlackBeard can literally shut down Gear 5. Isn’t that what you edgelord powerscalerfags want? Once he inevitably rapes Imu and steals his powers (which WILL happen), his current powers will be buffed.
>>290624256Its just more random punches and other shit that is all inconsequential in the end. So who really cares
>>290624270it seems obvious but don't count on it
>>290624301>dbz picopinion discarded
>>290624249I dont know about that unless we actually get a void century lore dump. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to that but as far as fights go, hes just never been good at them so I have no odea why he decided to do this Gojo vs Sukuna esque faggotry right now. Seems very out of chwracter for him
>>290624305Personally I want Luffy to go balls to the wall with Gear 5 instead of the recycled shit we got so far
>>290624323Nah, if there's one thing DBZ fans can be smug about, it's the fight scenes.
Why cant Oda make kino? Does Oda even understand kino?
>>290624301This. I honestly thought giving a fuck about Shitnor Pink much less LOVING him and thinking his retarded backstory was up in the top tiers of OP backstories was an ironic meme for a long time Oh my how wrong I was. Franky deserves so much better
>>290623103God I hope usopp dies next chapter, but knowing my luck he will do something "awesome" next chapter and not die
the last cool Gear 5 move was in Egghead vs Lucci when he used that tube like a wrestling ring rope for a lariat(though that was ruined by making it a punch rather than a clothesline, but hey it's the last cool thing he did with the ability)
>>290624229What's the current chapter per episode ratio? Is it still 1:1?
>>290624323Dbz is the definition of a fightspic manga and its author could actuallt draw multi chaptered fights without making 90% of the audience bored and hoping it just ends already lmao. He was shit at everything else though for sure
>>290624359Exactly, they don't know what a well written fight is. All they care about is how quickly the key dangle and if it makes beautiful action lines.
>>290624404one thing people are mistaken with is that you actually do require writing for fightfagging to workin Dragon Ball the feuds have proper build up through writing, it wouldn't work if it was just random fights, which Imu feels like a random encounter since he had no proper build up to fight Luffy
One Piece was never good
Our HEROES.
>>290624301>>290624373The same goes for Sugar being defeated by Usopp.
Im tired of doomers where are all the coomers at?
>>290624409it's probably a mistranslation anyway because it doesnt make any sense, nobody is forcing luffy, he's the one choosing to fight, like always.
>another entire chapter wasted for one punchYeah I've had it with this shit. I'll read the batch of chapters during new yeard or some shit, K cant be arsed to read this weekly anymore, fuck off
>>290624456Monetfaggot?
>>290624454They left.
>>290623256nice
I need KilliSanji now
>>290623205that's the only thing that could make this interesting at this point
>>290624459I don't know anon, looks like something oda would write cause of how much a hack he is. Usopp is saying it too since he is the king of talking shit and not backing it up.
>>290624255The problem with it IS the writing. All the other Strawhats have had a moment post timeskip where they fight someone and get their "cool" moment along with character development, a new attack or both. Ussop and Sugar, Brook and Big mom and her forces, Chopper and Queen, Robin and Black Maria, etc. Franky's got this and an unremarkable fight with Sasaki and nothing else. Vegapunk literally just handed him a new power up this arc and he doesn't even have a named character to use it on.
>>290623758Why do people hype up Katakuri’s fight so much? It really wasn’t anything new outside of Luffy getting beaten down and refusing to get back up and Katakuri just gives up. Even Katakuri’s powers were boring.
>>290624405CARROT SEXOOOOOOOOOO
>>290624482Kinda sad that Oda will never give us panty shots on One Piece. Damn puritan.
>>290623205It would give imu final villain status that's for sure.God I hope that long nosed nigger dies.
Imu will kidnap one of the strawhats. Screenshot this.
>>290624519Luffy actually had to solve something even though the solution was kinda dumb that far better than everything else in post-ts skip
>>290624512CONT.Franky's fight with Pink would be like if Sanji got a fight with Wanze and nothing else for years. Nothing but a gag fight with someone he relates to on a surface level.
>>290624529They can't do that, none of the girls wear pantes
Wish the raid had a bit more shenanigans before they actually started fighting.
Imagine still putting trust in leakers
>>290624493Translation
>>290624563Yes, but also Oda is gay.
>>290624453>>290624301>>290624373Kill yourself.
>>290624373Franky vs Sasaki kind of sucked too. Not just because he was the most underdeveloped TobiRoppo but also Sasaki, like almost every member of the TR, didn't use any Haki and deprived Franky of a meaningful challenge to overcome and to grow in some way.And the fight itself was incredibly short, another one of those "you'll get pieces of it every other chapter" that Wano is littered with. And the actual ending is just Sasaki getting dealt with by a generic radical beam as if we haven't seen a dozen of those already. The kicker was that Queen's lab was RIGHT THERE. It was in Onigashima, Franky could have upgraded himself either before or after that fight. Queen has seastone too, doesn't he? Franky could deal with DF users then and there if he had just incorporated into either his own body or the general. Oda dropped the ball hard on him.
>>290624519Not to mention his stupid "muh honor" self-stabbing that did more damage than all of Luffy's moves together.The fact he's so popular is still beyond me.
>>290623850i no black i dominican papi
>>290623103>Loki and Luffy wrecking Imu's shit again and hit him with the meme Gear 5 attack>Gaban is still up and now Usopp is here talking shitWhy the FUCK did Imu not just kill Gaban and Hajrudin? What purpose does it serve letting them run around and get attacks in? I'd even go far back as him not taking out Loki and Ragnir while they were down. He had Luffy skewered for a while before Gaban showed up.
>>290624301lol I just realized the backstory really was irrelevant. Like with Baby 5's at least you could tie hers into how the family's actually using her and why she feels the need to latch onto them. You could remove Senor's and nothing much would change.
>>290624519It was actually kino. Had an interesting ending with a KINO final clash. There were mutiple attacks per chapter and actual CHOREOGRAPHY instead of LUFFY DOES ONE GEAR 5 ATTACK BREAK NEXT WEEK DID YOU RIIIKE???? Snakeman was cool. Katakuri felt like an honorable and cool guy with a weakness and soft spot. The location they fought in was kino. Katakuri felt like the perfect counter to Luffy and his devil fruit was just a better rubber fruit, this was when Luffy felt like an underdog instead of a chosen one. Luffy had to also find out how to beat him and Luffy was constantly outmatched and getting outsmartedThis shit felt like a fever dream compared to the garbage TRASH we have now. It has a fuck ton of flaws but it was by far the best post timeskip fight and WE ARE NEVER GETTING THIS AGAIN
>>290623925I'm sure his Mars form was just as good
>>290624727I've always been piiseed that Baby 5 got off scot-free (even though she literally killed a mook on screen) and people love her because of her crybaby backstory but Buffalo is being tortured in Impel Down. Hell if both Law and Baby 5 had tragic enough lives to not only want to join the gang but stay in there despite the hazing then Buffalo's should be just as bad too.
>>290624759Buffalos crime was not being a cute girl
>>290624561Pretty sure Wanze has never ranked 42 or made anyone cry though, that comparison is dishonest. Also "surface level" is an insult to Franky, the ridiculous manly man thing is his entire deal. >>290624512The real issue here is not that the fight sucks, it doesn't. Your problem is that it's more about Señor than it is about Franky and you hate that.
>>290624731>The location they fought in was kino. Katakuri felt like the perfect counter to Luffy and his devil fruit was just a better rubber fruitindeed, it wasa Mirror Matchinside Mirror Worldbravo oda
>>290623103>usopp out of nowhereOda please.
>>290623103So what are we actually doing? We've established over and over that Imu is impossible to beat in his current state. We're stalling him but for what? There's some time limit for Imu present but they have no way of knowing that, and having Imu's demon juice run out and get teleported back really doesn't jive with how Oda writes things.
>>290623103>This is the opinion of a Japanese fan about one pieces current story board.>Lets begin.Every time the latest chapter comes out, I read it it as if it were a sense of obligation.However, when I look at developments where the mystery cannot be collected at all, I cannot help but wonder, “Does the author really want to fold up?”Because it is an epic work that has been loved for many years, I sincerely hope that it will end satisfactorily without procrastinating
BVLLsopp won.
>>290624862As many readers remember, an official statement was made through the media in 2019 to the effect that “it will be completed in 5 more years.” At that time, exchanges where the author himself clearly denied in response to indications from those around him that “they may be procrastinating” are also widely known. I fully understand that there were unavoidable circumstances, such as the subsequent turmoil in the world situation due to the COVID-19 pandemic and changes in the serialization schedule. However, no matter what circumstances or background existed, since the person himself flatly denied “procrastination” in public, it must be said that the current situation, where there is a big gap between the intended end that was actually transmitted and the current state of progress, is grossly lacking in persuasive power as a word. As a reader, I believe that careful explanations should be given in an official forum about future roadmaps and reasons for delays
>>290624850>We've established over and over that Imu is impossible to beat in his current stateLuffy and Loki don't believe that, only Gaban doesThey're still fighting to win, and now Usopp has helped them double-down on their resolve>We're stalling him but for what? There's some time limit for Imu present but they have no way of knowing thatYeah, that's why they're not stalling him. They're trying to win. Because as Luffy just said like 2 fucking chapters ago, when asked by Gaban, if he loses here then his crew will fucking die and Elbaph will be enslavedThat's why they're still fighting, dipshit
>>290624862>>290624887Nevertheless, no clear trajectory correction has been announced until now, and excessive plot bloat and remarkable stagnation of the story are clearly seen in the latest 115 volumes. The depiction of the past in the story is uncertain about the necessity for the main story, and the structure that can be perceived as a detour is conspicuous, as episodes with little direct causal relationship are sandwiched between them. In the first place, I still can't even see how elements such as D and 100 Years of Blank are linked to “Hitotsunagi's Great Secret Treasure (One Piece),” which is the final goal.
>>290624862>>290624887>>290624904The hypertrophy of group theater has also caused serious adverse effects on the depiction of “The Straw Hat Pirates,” which is the foundation of the work. While most of the main members are not given a prominent place of activity, there are many depictions in the words and actions of some members that seem to deny their growth so far, which makes me feel uncomfortable. Furthermore, the unnatural words and actions of the existing characters and poor development stand out, which not only significantly worsens the tempo of the story, but also greatly reduces the appeal of the characters themselves in a bad sense.
>>290624862>>290624887>>290624904>>290624922What is particularly serious is the depiction of the protagonist's emotions after awakening his abilities and the rough nature of the battle logic. As in the past, I cannot help but feel a strong sense of incongruity with my mentality as the protagonist in the present depiction where he seriously shows anger for his friends, the attitude of fighting has faded, and only excessive clowning is conspicuous. Also, pure catharsis as a shonen manga has been damaged, such as the fact that the battles of the main members other than the new characters have been disregarded, and the fact that battle scenes with important characters have been drastically reduced and lacking in power. Furthermore, the method for capturing the enemy's powerful abilities began and ended with an afterthought setting that was too ad hoc and easy, and attachment to the characters was greatly reduced by developments that exposed brainwashed comrades to danger without confirmation.
>>290624862>>290624887>>290624904>>290624922>>290624943Overall, in recent developments, roughness is conspicuous in settings and characters' actions, and I get a strong impression that the consistency and tempo of the story have not been sufficiently scrutinized. The artist himself professes that he has packed all of his own ideas and things he wants to do into this one work, but I can't help but think that his vigorous creative motivation led to a loss of subtraction and elaboration of the story as a result, leading to a pure decline in quality as a work. Looking at the current situation where problems that could be dramatically improved with just a few pointers and objective organization have been left unattended, one cannot help but wonder whether the support and check functions of the surrounding area, starting with the editorial department, are really working, and even the production system.>the end
>>290623925parrot confirmed
Its kinda crazy how Oda gave Loki the covered eyes look, the STRONGEST IN THE WORLD feel and made gojos VA voice Loki while Imu feels similar in Sukuna with his edginess, strength and different forms and people ITT still believe that oda ISNT copying JJKI truly believe that if JJK didnt exist and Oda didnt get mindbroken by JJK, we wouldve been in the final war by now but HACKda is still seething about JJK and KnY to this very day and wont let any big shonen fight manga series in shonen jumpYou can trash JJK all you want but the fact of the matter is, we are all suffering from the current arc because HACKda cannot let go the fact that he got destroyed by the sales and popularity of JJK and KnY while he was making his magnum opus arc SHITno during covid. Thats why he's been stalling so much
>>290624559Imu will kidnap Bonney.
>>290624995JJK didn't invent the idea of a group of people fighting 1 stronger antagonistholy shit what is with this new generation thinking Sukuna is the only group-on-monster fight in the entire fucking history of manga?
>>290624179Agreed.
>>290625018motherfucker even oda was saying how much he wanted gojos VA to voice Loki and how similar they areOda is mindbroken by JJK. Im not even a big JJK fag but its clear that JJK and KnY mindbroke oda and I wouldnt be surprised if this final fight of bleach overshadowing One Pieces anime is making Oda seethe as well
>>290623256Yeah even the Japs are starting to get pissed off with this pacing
>>290625095>Im not even a big JJK fag but [JJKfag delusions and reheated cope]Shut your retarded ass up
>No way it will last another 10 years. 5-6 at mostAHAHAHAHAHAHA
We get it, you hate One Piece despite showing up for every thread and chapter.
>>290625142I guess oda talking is headcanon toofucking retard
>>290625167Piratefolks is that way, saar.
>>290625183I guess they really mindbroke you kek
>literally the only place miserable about One PieceJesus even the fightfags on Twitter can get excited for Usopp talking shit, and they're as retarded about fights as you guys
>>290625210>Twittereww
>>290625238You're on 4chan.
>>290625253You were born male.
>>290625253i'd rather be dead than joining the twitter one piece community
>>290625210>twitterdont look at the quote tweets whenever a fanboy posts the video of gear 5 luffy using that baseball bat in the anime. Its the entire anime/manga community coming together to trash it
>>290624885>t.
What killed the hype?
>>290625297Echo chamber of negativity having to justify its own existence.
>>290625210The wider battle shounen community rates everything highly so them jumping up and down no matter the quality is typical. Now I do think during spoilers time this place can be overly negative, but once the chapters out there is more positivety here.
>>290625297A decade of nothing happening.
>>290623624>Rayleigh look worse because at least the Giant Eater is trying.Anon, Rayleigh is not there, how can he try if he isn’t there or even aware of what is going on? He doesn’t have a giant wife so why would he be on elbaph?It is his fault for not sensing that satan is fighting on elbaph with lel chosen one?
>>290625318That's some dense-looking milk.
>>290625360It's full of protein
>>290625339We've seen what happens when Rayleigh comes up against actual opponents twice already, Speedy Gonzales. I swear you people forget everything when someone isn't in the current chapter.
>>290624887>>290624904>>290624922>>290624943>>290624952MODS
What made the defenders so desperate all of the sudden?
Surely ussop dies here right? Yelling in the face of the strongest being on earth sounds like an fine brave warriors death to me.
>>290625331I won't say there's an agenda at work, but it is suspicious how HxH spoiler threads treat every page like some gift from God vs. here>side character who you probably already forgot from the last hiatus does something that won't actually affect the major plot of the arc>20+ replies about how Togashi is the GOAT and Glup Shitto's personal arc will inspire works to come and surpasses ShakespeareI genuinely think both threads share 60% of anons.
>>290623103>Luffy's freedom to save ElbaphThat's not what freedom means. Oda must have been watching Hasan.
>>290625443
>>290625443What is this expression trying to convey?
>>290625425>Little Mu casts Domi Reversi!>His cuteness compels you to bring him ice cream
>>290625472
>>290623205unfortunately never, but would be nice if he was exploded like krillin
>>290625492contextwise, it's an "I'M GONNA SNEEZE" face
>>290624952>>290624922>>290624887the expectations were higher than what we got. wano and vegapunk being perfect examples. wano has so many opportunities to expand upon the swords, make the samurai actually cool and relevant, give zoro any bit of characterization, but instead it was an empty shell of a setting that just served as a messy battleground to get the two 'pointless' yonkou out of the way.vegapunk was equally terrible, if not worse, with a shitty design and absolutely no elaboration on the mechanics of the world. another example of nothing actually happening in the world until the strawhats arrive, and then suddenly everyone arrives to kill vegapunk and we get a lame fight against the 5 elders who can't manage to stop a single strawhat.the art also sucks now compared to how charming it used to be, and haki is easily the worst 'powersystem' out there.
>>290625493Mu accept thy offering, insect
>>290623531What is Chopper reading. . .
>>290625510Krillin was killed twice because actual resurrection exists in Dragon BallClosest we ever had for OP was Luffy going Gear 5
>>290625462Well this /a/ isn't exactly that big so there being a lot of overlap between two older manga in the same magazine and genre is likely. I think you must consider that HxH has been on hiatus for a while and will probably go back on hiatus, so every chapter feels more like an event than one piece which has been steadily releasing chapters for decades.
Pirate girls deserve the chain.
>>290625548>another example of nothing actually happening in the world until the strawhats arrive, and then suddenly everyone arrives to kill vegapunkOr Elbaf, where SHs arrive and immediately the Holy Knights teleport to the island, did you speed read you brownoid.
>>290625598Luffys main bitch is hot
>>290625580Yes, that's clear.
>>290625448Another DOGSHIT ABOMINATION of a chapter that took two weeks (14 days) to cook.
>>290625297Perhaps Imu can pull the hype out of his ass tooIt's gotta be in there somewhere
Did Usopp fucking teleport?
Are we doomed to suffer shitposts about brief summaries forever. "WHAT A DOGSHIT CHAPTER WHERE NOTHING HAPPENS"Then the full chapter drops with details not included in the brief summary"FUCKING LEAKERS LIED AGAIN, THIS IS KINO"When will you retards ever learn
>>290625599You know ive never met someone as dumb as you saying that i'm an animefag and the dressrosa arc had gone for SOOOOOOOOO long i had to read the manga and even the manga was starting to get boring during wano... There is only so many times you can watch the same story over and over. But no worries yea as if marine ford wasn’t one pieces peak cut off.
>>290625740I think you're the retard who will never learn if you keep coming here and getting mad at something that will never change.That's just me though, maybe you see things differently.
>>290625740>FUCKING LEAKERS LIED AGAIN, THIS IS KINO"don't think anyone said this the whole year
>>290625740the chapters have been mediocre for a while now, you just have no standards.
>>290625155>Pre timeskip was 597 chapters and 13 years >Post time skip is currently 595 chapters and 16 years Damn..
>>290625740>"FUCKING LEAKERS LIED AGAIN, THIS IS KINO"Let's not make stuff up.
>>290625763>>290625909This shit happened with every God Valley chapter
>>290623103So this is another chapter of usopp talking shit and not doing anything significant?Jesus Oda how low can you get?Also we are still in the same place, we dont know if they are going to escape, we dont know if they are going to win, zoro and sanji fights still in the waiting room, shuri still unconscious, raccon and owl conversation still kept as a secret etc.
I'm not a fightfag but I do allow myself to indulge every now and then. Oda needs an assistant to manage his fights because he just can't do them well anymore. He isn't even creative with the attacks.
>Imu has the same powers as LuffyAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>290623256It could have been if Oda didn't try to transform his series in a Lost manga . Imu, the "saint knights" were a mistake, it removes Akainu, Black Beard, Shanks and Kidd from the picture. Oda just likes to pile up mysteries without thinking about ways to solve them. Between Nico Robin on Alabasta reading the first poneglyph and Enies Lobby when we learned more about them; there was 20 tomes . Between the Fishmen and Elbaph, 50 tomes and we still know no thing about JoyBoy. Oda failed his manga with his ridiculously long Dressrosa, WholeCake, Wano, some arcs that didn't bring any context to the global story.
>>290626049Illiteracy is a crippling disability.
>>290625297Oda's breaks and pacing.
One day closer
>>290625095>he wanted gojos VA to voice Loki and how similar they areis Oda senile?literally all they have in common is that they cover their eyes with a bandana
How many more damn chapters does this arc have?
>>290625115look man, let Oda take his breaks, we can't have this motherfucker working himself to death before he actually finishes the storyand a lot of these breaks aren't even his idea, Jump makes him do it for his own good
>>290623808With Doflamingo being the sole exception (and Katakuri and Croc being lesser exceptions), villains who are charismatic towards the audience, have badass designs, can and will merc fodder just to flex on the viewer, and look good just aren't what Oda wants for the villains in his series and that's okay. They're generally goofy, and they usually have ridiculous designs and make stupid faces and that's fine too.
>>290625455you don't earn a spot in valhalla by talking shit to someone way stronger than you and then immediately being killed that's not a warrior's death at allit's brave, but it's not a brave warrior that's just a brave normal man
This arc stinks
>>290626107They're cocky ubermensch blessed by their genetics to be the strongest among their people, but can't actually measure up to the ancient demonic big bad of the series.
>>29062611615-20 minimum.
>fightslopSHITda, end it, please
>>290623103How does Ussop keep teleporting around in this arc? He was miles away from Luffy and Imu’s fight and then he suddenly pops up on Hajrudin’s shoulder? I guess he stuck on him while he wasn’t paying attention.
>they do an attack to Imu>it knocks him away but he comes back with a new weapon>they do an attack to Imu>it knocks him away but he comes back with a new weapon and he got a little bigger>they do an attack to Imu>it knocks him away but he comes back with a new weapon>they do an attack to Imuyou are here
The issue here, we the audience know this is literally the ONE fight we know Luffy can't win. Anything extra feels drawn out and hollow, because it won't amount to anything, at least not yet. I understand that, despite everything, Oda is still writing for children, and to a child this is the hypest shit ever not thinking twice about narrative and just see Luffy fighting really hard against the bad guy, but for anyone older, fittingly, we're like Gaban, knowing how fruitless this fight is. I suppose it's nice to double down on their characterzation of refusing to give in despite the odds not being in their favor, like always, but that's only going to make the actual ending worse, like pulling teeth
>>290623103Ngl Usopp is so based for saying "I don't care about your Joyboy/Nika/Inherited will shit"
>>290626277>we're like Gaban, knowing how fruitless this fight is.Gaban has no idea Imu is on a timer, what he's advocating for is fleeing and surrendering Elbaphdon't be like Gaban, he is a pussy
>>290626279to be fair, Luffy doesn't care about it eitherhe doesn't even fucking know
>Usopp saving the day yet againWhy can’t Usopp stop winning?
>>290626305Gaban is avocating to run and live to fight another day, if Luffy dies now, he can't help anybody and from his point of view Imu is the scariest mother fucker he's ever seen, and he was elbows with people the rest of the world considers the strongest people on the planet. Sure, we the audience know there's a timer, but that timer is honestly irrelevant now, since it can't pay off yet because we're still not at fucking Laughtale or the Final War arc yet, at best we'll get a tease of what would happen to him if the timer runs out, but it'll just be there in the back of our minds as the future chapters release
>>290623103Oda why the fuck can Luffy now tag a STRONGER Imu?
>>2906263931- Imu is getting weaker and weaker 2-Its a tag team with fucking Loki
>>290626410Imu blitzed Luffys CoO in his previous form
>>290626429Again, he is getting weaker
Wasnt Usopp kms away? Wtaf
I have Imu fatigue
I kinda do miss Carrot she was someone new for Chopper to play off of, through I agree she isn't SH material s she lacks a dream of her own and the ability to fight her own battles and win, through it is kinda funny how memorable she became because the west adores her and those same people seem to adore Yamato as well, I wonder how much of it is liking the character and how much of it is being tired of stroking itto just Nami and Robin boobs all the time, larping oni and genki rabbit definitely feels new and exicting to those old fucks
>>290626277The entire fight is done in a boring ass way, could have wrapped up this entire encounter in 10 chapters. If the intention is for Imu to just teleport away then do it already holy fuck, no one cares about your heckin punches, even the art is a fucking disaster on top of everything so theres no enjoyment from this fightfaggotry, sorry from this turn based combat manga.If the intetion is to best Imu then fucking do it already too. There is nothing exciting about this fight, its somehow less fun than Saturn back in Egghead. Literally no one is finding shit shit enjoyable, you know its bad when even xitter fags are shitting on it on qrts and they are known to suck Odas dick for every random shit. If you cant pull any excitement from a fight then end it, its not that hard.If the intetion is to make Imu le scary villain then he hasnt achieved it, if the intetion was ti make Loki cool then he hasnt achieved it and if the intetion was to pretend that Gabans speech to Luffy meant anything then he hasnt achieved it. Its been nothing but a 5 month slog of X character getting hit and coming back the next chapter like nothing hapoened because every faggot in this manga has pillow fists and 3 million HP. Rinse and repeat and come chapter 1193 and we are back to square one. Fucking NOTHING HAPPENED.
Oda made Gaban just contradict his earlier speech. Fucking hell its like Im reading like Fairy Tail, the sheer shit of this writing
>>290626393Senile retard is too bussy making bank with random side projects to give a shit about his manga
Imunko being unable to ACK Loki is why Imcel arrived meaning after beating the shit out of Loki he should have bounced and repossess a GK to fuck up Monkey D Jobber
Pulling Imu out before the Void Century flashbacm was a top tier dogshit decision by the author, my god what was he thinking. He feels empty and also cant say anything to spoil the Laugh Tale so hes just a fucking dud without a personality right now. Should have stuck with Shamrock as the villain of this arc, at least his connection to Shanks and such would make for a more personal fight.
>>290626485Exactly. The stakes are nerfed, as is the actual fight, because again, we're nowhere near the actual climax. We can't actually see how strong Imu or Luffy are yet because that would break the actual climax, it would mean nothing if both capped here, again, when we're not even at Laughtale, or even Lodestar yet. The fight is dragging because naturally, there can't be a winner between them yetIt's boring because the story itself won't allow there to be a winner, less Oda kneecaps his own ending. This tedious back and forth needs to properly end already. Yes, Oda, we've seen your "Oh shit" moments and hope spots, they are very nice, please wrap it up now. We still haven't even seen Sanji or Zoro's fights, who have more stakes and a chance of winning
>>290626566Oda should have either had Imu controlled Gunko be the arc boss or Imu should have party wiped when he showed up and took the children leading to a rescue arc.
Imu in less than 2 seconds decided to kill Sabo, why the fuck is he not insta ACKing random bugs who keep interfering in his guro session with Monkey D Jobber and Shitki? This fucker killed hundreds of millions yet is not callously killing people like someone swatting bugs near them.
>>290626625>>290626566Oda should just have rushed the Bonney'd Jarul punches Imu away and then dies arc finale that everyone wanted to read instead of this dragged out meaningless fight.
Im marathoning One Piece and im on Ennie's Lobby right now.I miss Vivi a lot, she made the Alabasta arc tolerable. Also it was nice having another girl on the team that wasn't completely unlikable like Nami.
>>290626592Yeah and its the most pathetic excuse for a "fight" as a result. BRAVO ODA-SAN, 10 MORE CHAPTERS OF POINTLESS SLOGFEST WITH A BREAK WEEK INBETWEEN EACH OF THEM PREASEEEEEE
Imu is starting to look like a chump. This fight completely killed his aura. Bring on Blackbeard as final boss.
>>290626673Exactly. I cant believe the random faggots here had a 100x more exciting idea for the end of this arc then this senile faggot whos trying to recreate a Sukuna esque faggotry but instead is creating a Wano tier shitshow once again
How it started:>Imu one-shot everyone! HOLY SHIT HE'S A FUCKING THREAT, THERE'S NO HOPE OF FIGHTING BACKNow:>Everyone just stands up over and over and over again, none of the punches hurts fucking anyone, Imu has already gone through 2 different super-forms and Luffy and Loki are somehow matching it better than before.
>>290626707This is called Plot Induced Stupidity. Imu babyshaked Loki and Ragnir and no diff Nikafy. Hes the most impressive villain to date.
>>290623103>Imu already jobbedlollmao, even
>>290626707Ah yes, the BB aura of his entire crew and him jobbing every time they have screen time. Just accept that the author cant write villains and you'll be at peace instead of this faggotry where "the next villaon will totally be better bro, trusttt"
Why doesnt he DR literally all the giants?
>>290626738Everyone he knocked out is back up and fighting again.
I've never been less excited than this about a new OP chapter. Even Wano was more fun at least because of the posting here. This arc has none of it, not the posting here, not the actual manga excitement, nothing...
>>290626761Teach jobbing can be considered PIS as well. Like he should have been able to turn off Boas fruit faster a thought could process in her head to activate it. Oda is just really fucking stupid.
How tf is Oda going to hype this dude up as the most powerful being who has run the entire world for hundreds of years, then have him job in less than 10 chapters
The biggest PIS is Memes CoC wave not KOing 98% of the population on the island she was on. Like seriously why the fuck was Nami conscious?
>>290625940God Valley ended in 2025 if I'm not mistaken
>People still think Imu is the final bossKekkkkkkkk
Ace can burn an island yet Teach cant instagib Hancock or a fucking Seraphim or fucking Law or fucking Bepo.
>>290626061yes I said this beforethe final saga would be so much better, if every character Redline here was out of contention being superfluous filler
>>290626833I am genuinely expecting EL HERMANO to show up at this point
>>290626870nigger what? he beat Law and Hancock and the seraphim didn't stop him from beating Hancock
>>290626833If he jobbed already it would save us from this slog but you just know that hes back next chapter with zero damage like nothing happened. Not a single attack since chapter 1180 has done anything to anyone, even the fags that lost limbs just reattached them immediately. Like we actually just went through 12 completely pointless chapters. Delete 1180-1191 entirely from the manga and nothing changes btw
Imu has ruined this manga
>>290626883For what reason? Imu has threat mogged everyone in this awful arc. Im mad Shitrock went away because hes the closest we would have gotten to Luffy vs Shanks. Oda the hack still hasnt explained what happened in the Holy Land either.
>>290624119This is the cringiest page in all of one piece
>>290626870Teach derangement syndrome.
>>290626870Landscapes are huge jobbersThey explode all the time
>manga approaches ending>author decides to do nonsensical retarded shit all of a suddenClassic
When egghead came to a close and elders looked like complete jokes I knew it was over. Now imu is jobbing like a retard too. This shitty kaguya rip off ruined the series
>>290626888No he didnt beat them with barely any effort
>>290626976Elders made Jobfy seethe, it took Asspull Boy to make them fuck off
feels like a bomb just went off in my asshole
>>290626101To ?
when gaban said "he's god" he was talking about usopp
>>290623103sick team ultimate. when the fuck are we getting that one piece tag fighter?
Its baffling that he cant write villains like Crocodile anymore, its like its a lost art for him. I am certain BB and Akainu will get ruined too. The author has lost the ability to write fun and compelling villains
>>290626677We all do Imu
>>290627063Saturn, garling and doflamingo are better villains than Imu
>>290627063Imu being silent makes sense, these are insects not from his time period
>>290626381>Gaban is avocating to run and live to fight another daywhich would also mean that Elbaph would fall to the WG and the kids would be kidnapped and the giants enslavedThat's pussy talkLuffy is not a pussy so he, rightfully, told Gaban to shut his old ass up and that he's not running away because he CAN'T run away from this one
>>290627133>garlingHe doesn't have an arc yet
>>290626393.....because he's charged with Ragnir's lightning and Loki launched him at hypersped directly into Imu's stomach, using a named DAWN series THOR attack?this is not just the simple punches he was using before, this is a very powerful combo movehope that helps, moron
>>290627133>snipetsAll of them will look dogshit when they get individual arcs, dont worry. Also Doflamingk was properly ruined. He went from a joker no nonsense character to daddy issues faggotry
>>290627063I mean other than Arlong, Crocodile and Moria. The series doesn't have memorable fights. Sure maybe Franky vs Senor Pink. But it's been stinker after stinker since Thriller Bark. >KakaturiThe fight was ass but the character is perhaps the last great villain from the series.
>>290627157>pussy talkGabans a pirate, morals are for suckers
>>290626765....he didthen everyone figured out all you have to do is kill them and they change back
>>290627063Sometimes it feels like Oda is just saving all the cool shit for the last arc.
>>290626870>Teach cant instagib Hancockhe had her by the neck and at his absolute mercy>or a fucking Seraphimseraphim are tough, and they didn't even really fight. he blocked one attack and was just surprised at this new WG weapon neither of these have anything to do with how he beat ace either. He had his crew with him at Bannaro Island, and Ace was completely caught off guard by the Darkness Fruit's power to turn off his own devil fruit, which he relied on heavily how do people not understand a story written for children
Atlas > One Piece
>>290626941to be fair, he warned everybody
>>290627159He was the villain of god valley.
>>290627148it "makes sense" but it's boringyou know what else would've "made sense"? If Imu had just cut off Luffy's head the second he was impaled on the tree instead of monologuing at him long enough for Gaban to show up. Since Imu wants Nika/Joyboy/Luffy dead, it would've "made sense" to kill him the moment the opportunity presented itself"makes sense" doesn't matter when you're writing a story whose goal is to entertain, beyond internal consistency
>>290627216So do it again
Last time Imu had aura
>>290627210his son and wife live on elbaph>fuck my family and their homeland, this guy is just too strong for us!!!pussy talk
>>290627337Back when people thought Imu was a slutty girl
>>290627333he hasn't used Domi Reversi since he actually showed up in the flesh, or the spellbookmaybe he can't right now
>>290624745>>290623925I wasn't a believer but the way Imu is perched there on top of his thralls.... he is a parrot originally in his true form. Which is not even that unusual since we have all sorts of weird characters in the OP world. Everyone is going to have such a meltdown when that is confirmed.
One Piece only really dropped in quality with it's art, paneling and composition. The writting has kept a constant quality it has just become tired and repetitive. Brook's flashback we just got isn't much worst than any pre time skip flashback, but it doesn't have nearly the impact because we've seen it so many times.
>>290627351apologise
>Please debate me on 4chanNo.
>>290627380Oda's got vision problems and I bet his hands are pretty fucked by now too
>>290627063Why did Oda decide to take the tension out of things right at the endgame? How can pre-timeskip villains be more dangerous to the Straw Hats than the damn Demon God that killed Joyboy?...
>>290627471hey, he maimed a couple people...who will almost certainly just get prosthetics from Lilithbut he maimed them!
How the FUCK does HACKda fit usopp yapping and SHITffy doing one singular attack all in 15 fucking pages? That should be fucking 4 pages maximum
>>290627471Imu should've showed up and blitzed everyone then poofed back to his castle. That would convey he's serious business.This boring slugfest is what made him just a punching bag with high regen/durability which is boring
>>290627380>Oda trying to cram as much shit as possible into pages now to get as much info out as he can making them incredibly cluttered>barely room to breathe, meanwhile the action is generally pretty weak and panel-to-panel movement tends to be outright confusing at its worst>same formulas keep getting rehashed, go to island, natives are nice to SHs, big bad guy is comically evil, flashback to change your perspective on "that man" who has either been a silhouette, considered evil, or hasn't done shit for 500 chapters, meet royalty, fight big bad and his jobbers, then either party or run away from the island (insert lore drops wherever)>recently it's even worse because it's been multiple chapters of the most generic fucking villain ever we still have ZERO real info on spamming his broken powers and our heroes learning they just need to spam Haki harder to win>this is made even worse by the abysmal weekly reading experience thanks to constant breaksthe next arc either needs to be a cooldown arc or leadup to the Final War, this shit is getting annoying
>>290627520Oda is just mindbroken by JJK. This entire arc is just HACKda trying to do his own Sukuna vs Gojo trash while forcing JJK and Demon Slayer to finish early so that he doesnt have a single battle shonen around to compete against this garbage. Thank fuck HxH is back and hopefully Bleach gets its hell arc to save us from this trash, otherwise SHITda will sperg out anytime a battle shonen is published in shonen jump and create entire slog arcs like SHITno and SHITbaf to try and look superior
>>290627380Hot take from 2013
What Oda should've done is around the time Kaido gets defeated Luffy should've also have lost the Nika power due to some plot contrivance.He then fights normally and uses haki from that point until the final confrontation stretch of the manga, where he regains the power.That way the stakes would be again reintroduced.As it stands these fights are entirely toothless, even more so than usual.
>>290624270Oda isn't good enough at storytelling to make Gaban and Jarul get de-aged, become GOD-TIER, and sacrifice themselves to save everyone.
>>290627608Togashi also lost his mind. Over there tertiary characters roam around hallways while we get overly long explanations for Jojo powers. Togashi totally got mindbroken by Araki a long time ago and is now just schizobabbling and the plot is going nowhere for decades.
>>290627610Not him, but I started One Piece at the end of Marineford. The dip in quality after the time skip is real.Panels are convoluted, character interactions are non existent, individual character fights that last 3-4 chapters are gone. Even the smoke, basic smoke that you see is different. Read Hancocks island where luffy is fighting the sisters and see the art and smoke and compare it to this fight.The panel where Imu stabs luffy is bad. I thought the Imu fight up until the last chapter was good. This is getting ridiculous. Where are the editors?
>old one piecesimple powers, creative use>new one piececomplicated powers, uncreative use
>The thing thats still in Oda's nightmares everytime he goes to sleep
>>290625297Mostly the breaks, we've pretty much had a chapter every other week since Mu arrived. Brook's flashback was a huge boner killer, even if I did like to know a bit about more his past.
>>290627608>Thank fuck HxH is back So is HxH going to become the next anchor to hold jump together once one piece is over ?
How would you have improved Elbaf after Imu possesses Gunko?
>>290627690Yeah the Imu chapters have been far more interesting. I'm excited to see Imu take hits but not damage and for Imu to almost kill people but for nobody to actually die.
Oda os giving "hyping up the white walkers for 8 seasons just to shit the bed in one episode" tiers of incompetency when it comes to writing Imu lmao
The fight is just boring. This is the third or fourth time Imu has been slammed into that tree trunk. Who gives a shit.His gimmick should've been different overall. Hyperdurability is never that impressive.
>>290627742Yeah but unironically.
>>290627685I wish Luffy did more cartoon tropes instead of just the eye pop.
>>290627742The Imu chapters are the most boring fucking slogfest we have gotten since the walk to the roof in Wano that lasted 10 chapters
>>290627769this but unironically
I am going to buck break Usopp to death
>>290627779Oda got lost in the sauce somewhere around the fight with Doffy. I swear that fight must've lasted for a hundred chapters.>run up the castle to reach Doffy>it's a string clone>entire landscape gets rearranged>okay let's run up to Doffy AGAINKaido was similar to that with just running around to reach him indefinitely.At least Imu had the decency to materialize right in front of them and his mooks are limited.
Oda here. Fuck you.
Despicable fags.
>>290627769>character from last chapter is dying>new character shows up and attacks Imu>Imu goes flying >Imu then appears fine>Imu reveals the bippo-no-bungus>attacks new character with it>character from last chapter is dyingMaybe next week he'll pull out the humpf-humpf-a-dumpfer
>>290627837Very likely.
>>290627822hello Oda, bring Ulti back.she should be angrier, louder and have access to a time machine.
>>290627829Why isn't this guy here defending his turf
I think what bothers me most that I never see anyone mention is that eventually the fight is going to cut off to focus on Zoro and Sanji vs Killingham and Sommers. It's less of an annoying, momentum killing cut than that Brook flashback was, but this fight is already dragging and the only solace is that it'd be the last fight to focus on before this shit ends.
>>290627809Wano is longer than the entire runs of some other manga and a third of that is Kaido and Luffy slapping each other for like 50 fucking chapters
Nuke The Red LineMake The Grand Line Great AgainPirate island everywhere 24/7
Greg here, this >>290627822 is not Oda. Oda loves /a/ and is very grateful for all of the ideas he's stolen from here.
>>290627854Luffy will figure it out somehow, it's fate.
>>290627739Retcon Gunko to be a literal avatar of Imu
>>290627874Yes I am. It’s simply a matter of reading comprehension. Who’s stolen ideas? Give examples
>>290627866Don't forget the owl with super secret info.
>>290627739Imu show up, Loki and Luffy can't do anything to him at all.Usopp fights the god knights to save the kids, killingham pulls out usopps greatest nightmare, whatever that is.Something something.. Imu eventually gets tired before delivering a final blow or something.
I for one am excited for when Crocomom is confirmed
>>290627668>Over there tertiary characters roam around hallways while we get overly long explanations for Jojo powersAll of that buildup has now finally begun to pay off in the recent chapters and they're some of the best shonen manga chapters I've ever read
>>290627822Oda when he made chapter 1044
No seriously how did Usopp get there so fast?
>>290627866Omens disappear with the white of Imus eyes.Sommers and Killingha are defeated easily.This is crazy
>The Super Giga Giant Pirate Alliance To Kill Nerona Imu before The World Sinks and find The One Piece
>>290627822Give me Boa back, asshole.
>>290627930It's because you're brainwashed. It's crap.
>>290623256>Imu gets up>pulls out a new weapon>Luffy gets a thrashing>Luffy gets up>chapter ends with Imu taking a hit>repeatSummarized the last five chapters for you. Oda, you genius.
>>290627992or, and I know this might seem crazy, we just have different tastes in entertainment
I think Imu is mostly blind and wholly reliant on sensing people's haki + being guided by his maki homies to fight. That's how Hajruding sucker bunched him and Usopp keeps sneaking up on him. Their haki doesn't stand out the way Luffy and Loki's do so they fade into the background. Its also why he needed extra large sized bounty posters to look at back during the reverie
Egghead was WAYYY better than Elbaf. We are going back to Wano tiers of faggotry with this arc. Vegapunks message was 100x better than the last 12 chapters of this arc
>>290623256>>290627967Big tits like these are made to feed Monkey D children
>OMGGGG ANOTHER CLIFFHANGER WITH X CHARACTER GETTING HITTT?? SAY IT AINT SO GODAAAAAA THIS IS SO EXCITINGGGGGGGDDSFGGFFFF I SHAT MY LANTS FUARKK
>NOTHING HAPPENS THE CHAPTER 7.0AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>290628036Its actually Oda whos blind anon
APOLOGIZE
>>290628088>>290628090What is blud talking about?
Do you guys know where to get the highest quality raw volumes? nyaa's are shit
>>290627739All I want is for Imu to actually BE threatening.>Dorry and Broggy break out of Domi Reversi by hurting themselves like in the manga but doing so puts them completely out of comission>As soon as Imu touches down the holy knights are sent back home>The next few chapters are Imu making his way to Luffy and Loki and maiming anyone who gets in his way>Upon picking him up, Gerd gets turned into red paste, As soon as Zoro lunges towards Imu one of Zoro's sword comes to life and tries to cut at him, Imu throws black flames at Sanji and it engulfs him and it doesn't extinguish, etc I actually don't even care anymore. I could be wrong about Imu having magic or demon-inspired attacks. I don't think I am but I could be, but if he isn't then I just want Oda to do something cool with it. And more importantly I want that "How is Luffy going to get out of this" feeling back. I'd be lying if I said I had that last arc, or the one before but in the past I could suspend my disbelief and believe there was a chance Luffy could lose significantly or that someone meaningful might die in the previous arcs, but not here. I don't even think there's a chance the kids are going to be kidnapped.
>>290628088but broooo what if this time Imu comes back and summons a different weapon???that would be CRAZY
>>290628205Oda will literally die on the spot of a heart attack if he writes anything that isnt extremely formulaic
this battle is dumboda is horriblei hate how far he has fallen
>>290627337>Did the most collective damage to Elbaf in this form, personally BTFO'd Brook and Usopp and raised the stakes in the arc to the upmost.>The confrontation between Imuko and Loki and Luffy got postponed by the Harald/Rocks flashback for IRL months >When the fight actually starts, whoops, she's too small for Loki to see in zoan form and Imu can't Domi Reversi them for the easy win. Time to immediately put Gunko on ice and give Elbaf a false resolution That shit was so disappointing, I honestly would have preferred if Imuko was just the arc villain and Imu didn't show his balls on stream in his true form rn for hype and aura factor because it's been pretty whelming thus far. There would have also been a stronger emotional throughline with Brook if this form was the entire focus point.
>>290625210It's interesting how nobody was like this during the daily one piece chapter threads (in those threads, they were like that in every other one)it's almost like there's no coherent reason for people to be here except having nothing else to do...
>>290627854he's gettin the piece
Oda must seethe people love Imunko more than this deviantart reject
>>290625740I dropped one piece for other reasons but you are right
>>290628205>How is Luffy going to get out of this" feeling back.People were saying this 3 chapters ago when Imu low diffed Luffy at the peak of his power.
>>290623103Usopp showed up?
>>290625740I like to step back and enjoy the hyperbole, because one day it will be gone
He's a haki man
>>290628552How did that happen?
I miss rape piece...
>>290628821Rape Piece exists...In your HEART
Usopp will die and Carrot will replace him
>>290628821Imu should win to have it back.
Law is a bitch.
Luffy is only made to conquer Paradise.Kid is the one made to conquer the New World.Luffy and Law are just not fit to be pirate leaders when the stakes are too damn high, much less to be emperors.Luffy and Law should have been subordinates with autonomy to Kid because Kid is built for king shit. Luffy is just like his grandfather Garp; he is just not responsible and competent enough to lead an entire army. Luffy should have known his place and stuck to doing sneaky adventures, just like what Gon and Killua did in Greed Island.
>>290628915Cute and canon
Bonney undergoing Vegapunk's experimentshttps://files.catbox.moe/78fzx9.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/nyb67y.jpeg
>>290628956The only thing Kidd is conquering is Kaido's musky taint.
I hate the Nika style
>>290623103>Luffy wombpunched Imugoddamn, this would have been hot(ter) if Imu was a chick all along
Imu is trans.
>>290629049she is a loli in base
We all know Two Piece is inevitable. But who do you guys think the author will be?>Scenario 1Oda writes and draws the entire thing again>Scenario 2 (Kishimoto-Ikemoto style)Oda/Shueisha picks the least talented amongst his assistants and has him handle the series>Scenario 3 (Toriyama-Toyotaro style)Oda picks whoever's in charge of one of his side material, he's not as bad as scenario 2 but completely unfit to take up the mantle and has to be constantly babysat by Oda
Why would they add this scene?
>>290624119this is one of my favorite pages in all of one piece and it makes me sad everyone hates it
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>>290629072All trannies are demons but not all demons are trans. It's a square/rectangle situation.
>Imu start reminiscing about past>Get punched/thrown/hammered/blinsided/whatever>Aieee if only mu dealt with this shit years ago instead of was gooning lily pic 24/7This will be next 50 chapters
I wasn't convinced about the Sanji-Gaban parallel at first but after this chapter I can finally see it.
Luffy and Oda got exposed by Kid.
>>290628549I'll enjoy it when you're gone
>THOR BULLET
>>290629339Based, you're right
>big bad heavily teased for over 10 years finally appears>absolutely zero stakesWhat the fuck went wrong with One Piece? This is the exact same shit that happened with Saturn just last arc. He arrives, everyone is like "OH FUCK, SO SCARY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING" and then he's just a bullet-sponge boss at best.
>>290628045Indeed, one piece peaked when Bonney was the focus.
Vegapunk was interesting until it conveniently cut out during all the important parts.
>>290629672>hey Lilith what was the end part of the message that you broadcast>oh that was just *AIRHORN BLARES IN THE BACKGROUND*
Regeneration is the absolute worst power in a battle manga and I hate that Toriyama popularized it for final bosses. Enemy tanking damage is way cooler than them becoming glorified jobbers "because they can regenerate."
>>290629339I read Egghead in one go and remember thinking it was nice Oda could still surprise me
>>290629672Here's a transcript
>>290624072>this didn't happen with Law,No that is basically what happened with Law. The only difference is instead of>BB gets hit and cries like a bitchIt was>BB gets hit and nearly falls into the water / drowns if Van Augur didn't save his ass
>>290629729seriously, just let hits actually be impacftul I don't know why authors are allergic to this a fight also doesn't have to be long to be good
>leakers refusing to drop rawa>vague spoilers>usopp glazingI've seen this before. Last time this exact scenario happened, Usopp actually got his ass kicked and the leakers lied about everything.Why are leakers like this?
>>290629775You can't say that about fishmen.
>>290629794Maybe he actually dies this chapter, would be pretty funny if imu killing usopp was the distraction luffy and loki needed for a combo move that bypasses his super omen shield.
>>290629775Man, that is one racist owl.
>>290629640>too late in the narrative for Luffy to get BTFO like against Crocodile, Magellan, Akainu, Kaido, etc>too early in the narrative for Imu, the Gorosei, HKs, etc to be beaten/killedThe real question is why Oda isn't making Luffy and Loki figure out how Imu's powers work instead of the same "just hit them even harder" bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHWjUKXMIKsKiller... we're leaving.
>>290629640I assumed the final arc would start with the Abyssal powers being mysterious and menacing, like EggheadThen in Elbaph they beat some Holy Knights and we'd learn more about the pact system, which they did and we did Then instead of facing Imu and overcoming him on another island, he shows up and repeats step two
>>290629640>Complaining about nothingFaggot
>>290623680>not too long ago*Raises paw* Uh... that was 14 years ago...
>>290629920I'm imagining Usopp being brutally killed and having it followed up by some Looney Tunes attack and it's just not working for me G5 was a mistake for reasons like this
>>290630333>Complaining about nothingThat's one way to describe dissaponment I guess
>>290629603>THORhttps://youtu.be/4cxpeOgIGkc?si=67q-7M7A1G5BIfSv
>>290623205Usopp will do the big save to make imu retreat
Gonna he honest.Elbaf has sucked hard compared to Egghead. None of the new characters of this setting have been interesting. Loki is just a repackage of Kidd. Dorry and Brogy have done jack shit besides be made into obstacles. The setting of Elbaf being a tree with little viking villages after all the hype for the past 20 years has been a waste. It should have been a grand kingdom of mythological Asgard with a grand city scape of towering statues and buildings. Imu and the Holy Knights have had zero build up or impact since arriving. Being treated as pests, rather than endgame opponents. Egghead had some of the best character developments for non Straw Hats, with the Gorosei having an apocalyptic build up when they arrived. Treated as a unstoppable demonic presence you can't stop, only run from. Kuma, Bonney, and Vegapunk all having standout performances. Even the satellites were fun. What has Elbaf given us? Some literal who little shits who get captured. Road who is a spaghetti pocket spilling pushover. Gerd whose only big scene was getting her fingers cut off. And Gaban being a repackaged Rayleigh. Loki has sucked, and so has Imu. He has been utterly wasted. Oda should have just double downed on Gunko, and give her more power ups and saved him for later.
>>290630381>HARALD'S SON
>>290630397I think Oda brought in the Holy Knights too soon and then discarded them equally as fast. There was no time to really build up Elbaf as a location.
>>290630448He is rushing after he spent too long on Wano, and all arcs now are suffering because of it. We had an entire second act fight with York cut out.
>>290629775yer the forest god, chopper
>>290630482Crazy that he wanted Wano to be even longer.
>>290630347God I want that. Usopp dying while luffy laughs at his corpse for being jobber would embaress usoppfags championing that elbaf was his arc.Usopp's character arc is to die I guess, like kid's was.
>how to kill immortals? just hit them with Conq Haki>how to save people possessed by Imu's devil powers? just kill them and they return to normalIs it me, or are these two of the worst storytelling choices Oda has made in the whole manga? Pretty much killed all the stakes associated with Imu's devil powers.
>>290630571nah, no straw hats is ever going to dieOda was a soft-heart to begin with but I feel like at this point he just would never have it in him to actually kill one of them offWe'll be lucky if a single other major character besides despicable villains actually die, on-screen, for the rest of the manga>but Izo died!nobody cares
>>290630622Chopper can slap the possession out of them. Not sure if he's going to build off of that though.
>>290630622The second one is so stupid I wonder why Oda even bother with the possession gimmick to begin with.
>>290630672I wouldn't mind Chopper specifically having the ability to remove possessions. But the whole "just kill them and they return to normal" shit is so cheap and it doesn't even make sense because then how did Rocks die?
>>290630622the weaknesses of the main bad guy just being things the crew were already doing and just need to do harder reeks of Oda trying to find some kind of actual catch-all way to deal with this retarded regen bullshit he decided to introduce and it just comes across as "only three of the main cast will be worth a damn against these guys"
>>290630721>only three of the main cast will be worth a damn against these guysLuffy, Zoro and Sanji have been the only relevant Straw Hats since Fish-Man Island. You're seriously only realizing this now?
If Luffy beats Imu here and now, what left is there for Dragon and Sabo to even do?
Spongebob would solo Kaido
>>290630902Convince the world Imu was the evil one. All they would hear is the evil pirate Monkey D. Luffy beat up the king of the world.
Exhausted Krillin wielding Yajirobe’s katana absolutely bodies Imu, the Gorosei, and the Holy Knights all working together
>>290630902well that's why he obviously won't beat him here and now it's shonen, dudeImu is on a timer for a reasonThey introduced the fact that his covenant-holders being killed weakens him, and now Zoro and Sanji are fighting covenant-holders c'mon use your brain
>>290623103>no hybrid lokiass chapter
>>290631114But then he can't complain about not being able to hit such a small target.
>>290630902They will become Ussop 2.0 and be Luffy's cheerleader.
>>290630902>Luffy gets up after getting shishkebabed>Imu is somehow supposed to lose here after a few punches
>>290628949>quits right when her milkers got bigger Shame, she did the same as that one chick
>>290629497You still don't get it, Gaban is sacrificing his life for theirs which is/was a Sanji trait until Wano.>>290631511>Luffy gets up after being shishkebabed >Crocodile is somehow supposed to here after a few punches
Usopp doubters get raped every single time.
Oda was probably ordered by the CIA to make up the hakiman asspull in order to steal Eustass Kid's aura and destroy the potential of shonen as a genre of will to power, leaving the genre of shonen only for the bluepilled goyim and gaslighting innocent children into giving up their lives by believing that only the nepo frauds can live their lives to the fullest.
>>290623468>Are STILL in the Ugolino flashback? Remember when this poem was about Dante?
>>290631664Yeah, this is about what I'd expect a Shidfag post to look like.
>>290631640Croc was 1000 chapters ago, we're in the endgame now with gods and devils. Nobody goes down so easily.
>>290623103cringe line.
>>290630622The plot hole of Rocks killing his parents and neighbors and none of them came back to life
>>290630711Like Padme. He lost the will to live.
>>290630622How to defeat Imu’s DR victims>just… le kill them!>eat the hito hito no mi forest god fruit mythical model chikaElbaf is fucking ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDMSRY3HMdM
>>290630923holy trvke
>>290630923Krillin from which era?
>>290623657the threads were pretty active but the manga ending (plus the anime ending) killed all the momentum
>>290630397Oda should have dropped most of the strawhats already or actually stop ignoring them
Katakuri KATAKURI KATAKURI KATAKURI KATAKURI KATAKURI KATAKURI
>>290632325Ulti is born to be my sex slave desu
>>290626101TETAS
I used to be excited for every new chapter of One Piece.Now I just beg for any that aren't a waste of ink.
>>290623680One, Katakuri fight was OVER A FUCKING DECADE AGO.Secondly, it was arguably the best fight in the entire fucking manga and it was the only time we got a cool mirror match fight against someone with effectively the same skill as Luffy but is stronger than him.
>>290632441that is not a good name to call your wife, Luffy
>>290632453Why didn't make Katakuri rubber? It would have made people suspicious of Luffy's fruit
>>290632528Because Oda didn't conceive of the Nika retcon yet, you have to remember that this was before Wano part 1 even started
>>290630482Wano was a fucking mistake
>>290623833Sakuna worked because he was there since the beginning and everyone waited for his fight with Gojo for years, and he felt like a threat attacking both good ones and foes. He also mindraped megumi and made Yuji destroy a city.Imu appeared out of nowhere but Oda clearly believes making Imu Conis the hedgehog but faster will beat that gojo vs sukuna fight
>>290624995Isn't Oda making sure only romcoms and gags are approved in the magazine? Kagurabachi dodged the bullet thanks to Nakano not killing it immediately but even then Saito keeps it as low as possible
>>290632550Preaching to the choir anon, try something actually controversial next time
>>290625095Imu could have been voiced by Archerkuna but he wasted him on weed man lmao
>>290624119because it was written during the 90s and animated during modern times.
>>290632539it wasn't a retcon
>>290627608>>290632589Pretty much this. Like what's next after kagurabachi ends? Even the last jump cover was the rest glazing at Luffy.
>>290625387He held off the guy that was about to murder luffy entire crew the first time. Look like a job week done. He saved boa Hancock from being rape again, look like another job well done. What had gaban done? Nothing, dude couldn’t even save his own son, Loki did. Read slower captain Gonzales.
>>290624119>people say that Oda started sexualizing Bonney less right before the reveal she's actually a little kid>same arc, he gives us S-SnakeWhat did Oda mean by this?
>>290627608Gege wanted to finish it but the announcement of last 5 chapters came out of weird. But Kimetsu felt specially weirder and it was constantly underprintedThen you had that Oda's letter (btw he also seethes at Sorachi) and Jump pretending Kimetsu doesn't exist. Oda can't accept OP is too long for kids to join now and the pacing is really bad.
>>290627608>This entire arc is just HACKda trying to do his own Sukuna vs Gojo trashCan you blame him? He knows as soon as that fight reaches anime format it's going to be EVERYWHERE. It doesn't help Toei still uses 70s cartoons effects. Even if he uses Gojo's voice Gojo is still more popular and the villain has fucking Archer voice, he can't win against that
>>290632698Zoro is lucky
>>290630879imus face when chopper touches him from behind
>>290625574how he is going to circumcize luffy so he get can get his diploma (they requires his foreskin)
>>290632715