it's over isn't it?
Really hoping a decent camrip leaks soon so I don’t have to share a theater with fudgepacker freaks
>>290629789rape
>>290629789If you thought Rebellion was sequelbait, this is on another level. Likewise if you thought Rebellion sidelined Madoka.
>>290629978But girls can't love girls
I trust that next films ending will be even more open ended and create an even wider array of interpretations
>Mexico has a premiere with Madoka's VA in 2 weeksWTFMEXICO?????????????
>>290630044But witches can love witches
>>290630119The US is now a pariah state, it's completely over
>>290630119Does it even have a date in America yet?
>>290630119Homura's VA*
>>290630013You didn't see the movie.
>>290630119Basado
>>290630119>this is how ICE is trying to get all the weebs to self-deport
Mexichuds better camrip that shit.
>>290630119At least anyone in America could go south of the border for a few days to see it>>290630143Still just 2026
virgin meguca vs chad eroha
>>290630317It's between them and the Taiwanese for who will do it firstWhich people will bless the Meguca threads?
If the Devil sent you that photo would you still leave her roofied on a park bench?
>Blocks your ideal movie
>>290630514I want to fuck the Kyubeyslut
We are slowly getting more art that doesn't give a shit about the spoiler banAlthough I don't know how effected this one would be
>>290630597The blonde girl is a spoiler, I guess.
>>290630597From the looks of it they're going with Homura still being the devil now.
Reception of the movie seems to have gotten a bit better. I guess it didn't character assassinate anyone like Evangelion Q, or ruin the franchise like the Star Wars sequels.
>>290630740I haven't heard a thing about it that sounds good.
hola onions sayaka la vaca
>>290630119basado
>>290630761It basically just ran in circles and returned to pre-Rebellion status quo with QB as the big bad again.
>>290630781Like so.
>>290630740People who went to see the the movie again got a better impression than the first one as far I've seen (It's Rebellion over again).
>>290630738I think most people are
>>290630740no anon... we're just done screaming and dooming about it
>>290630817Not at first. A lot of them didn't noticed the ring and forgot the brown ribbon was just part of Homura's new design
>>290630863can we have 100 more posts rambling about the ring?
Would homura impregnate madoka or would madoka impregnate homura
>>290630740In here at least, it seems to be cautiously optimistic Still need to see it tho
>>290631097Which girls is the daughter of Junko and which one needs glasses to see?
>>290631105is this a psyop? did they hire someone to say this stuff? it sucks
>>290630898Of courseIf we don't have at least 300 posts about the ring by the threads end we have failed Homura>>290631097I'd impregnate both but Madoka is always the top, so it's>madoka impregnate homura
How tight is Homura's?......
>>290631163You can look at the threads but by this point everyone more or less is just waiting to see it themselves I don't think the movie will be good but I'm not gonna say it's 100% actually bad until I see it
>>290631207It feels like heaven
>>290631307Do people really have penises that curves downward?
I want to sit and masturbate on the Homu benchPreferably with Homu helping me
>>290630781That already makes it better than overhypedbellion
Homu kissing you while jerking you off at the same time
Time to settle this. SUB or DUB?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVi_fs2oz3Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUdNTJ28EQ
One day
The news on the 12th will just be a bunch of merch announcements Will we probably get figures of Margarete and Homura (200万パーセントのレズビアンフォーム)
>>290631698She did this to me yesterday
>>290631807Did you cum before the sex started
>>290631726You've been saying this for 13 years
>>290631307Kyouko > mami > sakaya > homu > madoka
>>290631842Not until she sucked me off>>290631920And I will say it for 13 more if I have to
Will perceptions on how the movie ended change much after the 12th
This franchise will never be anything more than a never-ending cash cow used to bait the yuritroons and milk them dry.
So much art of this, huh?
>>290631722was this every a question? the VA performances are excellent, the dub never had a chance
>>290632569Homura seems like the type to do it so much she eventually gets too used to it and when she finally touches Madoka it doesn't feel right and she crashes out.
>>290632694Poor Homu
This is /a/, everybody.
>>290632716It's this or arguing about the ring/ending againAnd we've been arguing about the ending since the film came out
I hate the freak gooners but I'd rather see them than the people pretending that the movie plot and ending have any meaning
>>290630764we're not onions
>>290630119>Mexico has a premiere with Madoka's VA in 2 weeksduring the premiere of the first meguka movie they invited people from the jap gov, it was weird seeing these old men watching the movie sitting next to some weird looking fags
>>290630119I am happy for Mexico.
I think everyone who has an opinion on how the film ends and what it means, who also hasn't seen it, has already talked to death about what they think of the ending. If it wasn't the Madoka flavoured homusaya it would be something else. Like whatever they are announcing on the 12th or how likely it is we will get a camrip from Latam
>>290632807Even if the movie is bad the ending pretty clearly has to mean something. You don't write 'Homura smiles and is left on some random park bench while Madoka disappears' without giving it some sort of meaning
I'm still surprised that even Walpy agrees that Homura did nothing wrong
>>290630597>>290630640I was really hoping that Was and the girl that looks like Tart were gonna be different characters
>>290630119Contrato bros, you won
The amount of HomuSaya on JP twitter right now is CRAZY, I kinda expect similar when movies comes out in other places. Ship went from handful of dedicated shippers but mostly considered kind of crack to like top 3 or 4 in the fandom overnight
>>290633077It was always the third most popular ship Considering that Madohomu got the bench and is now, best case, long distance and Kyousaya got nothing it's no wonder why Homusaya is getting a bunch of fan art
I love Mami so much that I might literally lose my head.
Will we get camrips after the Latin-American movie airing?
>>290629789Isn't it? Isn't it over?
>>290633244Hopefully before
>>290633225That and Homusaya is the only new character and relationship dynamic change we got for the quintet after 13 years, everyone else is essentially the same. So not a surprise the creative juices are flowing in that direction
>>290633343Isn't there also some Kyoumado scenes too? When dealing with ChokaAnd I guess there's Choka and Kyouko too And Madoka and Homura's relation does change at the end, somehow. They might be able to call each other...But yeah, Homusaya has the most going for it when it comes to what new can be done post-Kaiten, considering how their relationship is the main one that grows and that the two of them get the most focus together.
>>290633257>Isn't it? Isn't it over?SHAFT needs to fund it's existence and Madoka is the easiest way to do thatMadoka will never end
>>290630119My country is literally a joke, as always has beenhttps://youtube.com/shorts/KcojySUle9chttps://youtu.be/QCOWJ6tUXG0https://youtu.be/4zfjp51gKiQ>saturn>saito chiwa>satan
>>290633382Theres some stuff there yeah but.. Koyoku is just a lot less popular than Homura and Sayaka outside of the context of KoyoSaya.
>>290633077All the popular Madoka ships are crack. Nothing changed.
>>290633824They really should try to animate the Different StoryMami and Kyouko deserve to have something good where they are important actually be animated
Would've been better as a season 2 honestly
>>290633872Not TDS specifically, just make a prequel.
>>290633872Wraith Arc would be much better, in my opinion.
Give Mami a big hug!
>>290634034Mami would never hug a loser like me.
Mami will grow up and live a very happy life
The last thing Homura says in the new movie
>>290634166We already did that.
New Green Kyouko just dropped
>>290629789I wstched the movie and it was really shit, like Rebellion. The franchise is just being milked now and has become gachashit. Homura is a shit character
>>290629789It was over since the show ended in 2011. You're the one pining for cash grab garbage for years because a show can't simply tell a story from start to end.
>>290634311I think Rebellion haters were right in retrospect. I thought Uro had a plan but it seems like he was a hack all along who was carried by Shinbou and Inu Curry.
>>290634311>>290634393>>290634413Still better than Steins;Gate tho
>>290634234This character is just like Kyouko (unnecessary side character that doesn't affect the plot)
>>290634413Inu Curry are responsible for Madoka's gachafication. Shinbo made Madoka a success
>>290634413>Rebellion was carried by the guy who wrote Kaiten
>>290634422Nah Steins;Gate is unironically better. Okabe is a much better protagonist than Homura could ever be
>>290633982>>290633999I like TDS enough for me to say that it should be the one that gets adaptedHomura Tamura would be best in all honesty but that is a real never ever
>>290634466Urobuchi wrote Katen, Inu Curry just gave him ideas which he wasted.
>>290630119Con que esto es lo que compra el dinero de los carteles.
I want a crazy bitch like Homura
>>290634422If you're a fag.
>>290634468>>290634311Go back SGshitter
Spoiler...what's with the HomuSaya trend? Is it in the movie? It's fucking hot
>Gets exposed as a phone scammer>Shock wears off>Come back to wanting to to call her
>>290634632Sorry but Steins;Gate is better
>>290634784One of your main characters is a literal fucking troon and it would be really funny if they doubled down on that in the remake.
>>290634711Madoka goes long distance again and Homura needs a replacement Also because the spoiler ban
>>290634768Madoka did this
>>290634803There's nothing wrong with that in anime
>people still discussing whether Homura is still the devil or not like that matters for anything after Kaiten established her Devil form amounts to only slightly stronger than a regular meguca
>>290634973Everyone knows and have complained that she got nerfed Her being strong or not doesn't matter to why her still being the Devil is important.
>>290634973Well that's fucking stupid. I knew the gachashit would ruin everything.
Would Kyouko have made a difference if she was still around to fight with Homura?
I hate Steins;Gate
>>290635096Because it's better
>>290633382>KyoumadoA little bit. Chouka attacks Madoka and Kyoko comes to the rescue.
>>290635095It doesn't matter when you are talking about because nothing would change regardless Walpy in the og anime was too strong even for the both of themThe only way I can see anyone beating the LoC would be if everyone - including the new characters, Madoka herself and fuckin Kyubey - decided to fight her and even then that's only because I can't imagine Madoka Magical ending with literally everyone being killed by the LoCKyouko is strong but it's unfair to put her in these situations
>>290635117At being a cashgrab, yes.
>>290635146
>>290635157You know, I feel that the LoC and the futility and tragedy is what really makes madomagi so beautiful. Wanting the characters to have their Marvel Avengers moment where they team up to beat Witch Thanos is just shonenslop. Which is exactly why so many wanted to see this after rebellion.
>>290634059Yes!
>>290634311>>290634393>>290634413Steins;Gate is garbage you shitty samefagger.
>>290635294>Wanting the characters to have their Marvel Avengers moment where they team up to beat Witch Thanos is just shonenslop.If only Magireco and pretty much everything else released after like... Wraith Arc maybe(?) and or Rebellion understood thisBesides, I can only see Madoka, as a series, having a happy ending if the last part before the end is truly tragic and the happy ending itself is only a response to that tragedy.
I heard the Steins;Gate reboot was bad. For me it will be hard to be worse than the original S;G series
is ful movie on nyaa now?
>>290635563No
>>290630119Jappas love Mexico. What's surprising about this? It's a shithole but frankly not that much of one.
>>290635433You have schizophrenia
Even if Kaiten is shit can we all agree that it's better than Steins;Gate
>>290635687Steins;Gate is an objective masterpiece. Kaiten is just a cashgrab for women
>>290635687Yes, obviously
>>290631394Yes and even a lot more than that.
>>290630863By now it's good that we (mostly) have a consensus about it
>>290634973So are we just going to ignore the fact that her power was fragmented, that the characters she was fighting, and that the magical girls are stated to be able to break the laws of the universe?
I hate that a few bitter tards have declared this movie shit already and have poisoned the well against it. I can already see all the NPCs anticipating all the things to hate about it instead of going into it blind with their minds open.
>>290631722Italian dub.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE26qr4Vi4chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmcRIP1Lv24
>>290635095The game has an ending where if all the megukas survive they're able to beat walpurgisnacht without madokami.
>>290632918>the ending pretty clearly has to mean something>You don't write 'Homura smiles and is left on some random park bench while Madoka disappears' without giving it some sort of meaningHow do we tell him?
>>290634059>Mami will growEven bigger? Jesus.
>>290635943>her power was fragmentedAnd Madoka took away the overseeing part of it. Homudevil is a shitty cosplay now.
>>290636231This is what Selma dreams of.
So Homu is a fraud and a jobber?
>>290636372Always has been.
>>290636164If you mean by the end of the new movie, then yeah, I think so. I think Homura basically became a girl who can't control shit in her own world anymore, and she might not even be a devil after the movie.But we're talking about Rebellion and the new movie as a whole.Since Rebellion, it was pretty fucking obvious that the universe she created was unstable, so she had to constantly maintain it. Her being weaker in the new movie can easily be explained by her power being split between maintaining the world and maintaining Madoka's existence inside it. There's literally a barrier preventing the Law of Cycles from entering, and from what I've heard, even the Clara Dolls aren't with her anymore.Then there's the fucking lizard entering Homura's body in the trailer. I'm pretty sure that's the scene where she tries to reclaim Madoka and fails, which would further imply that her power was fragmented.And then there's the new magical girls literally coming from outside the universe in Nazukasokotsune.Homura not knowing about the place or being unable to use her powers there doesn't mean shit. The place itself apparently preserves the records/concepts of magical girls.Selma literally says that even if Madoka's witch gets erased from every timeline and every universe, that doesn't mean the witch itself stops existing.So Nazukasokotsune apparently preserves the actual concept of the witch itself. And the fact that even Madoka didn't know it existed makes it pretty fucking obvious this isn't just some random pocket dimension.So yeah, I really don't see how the new movie debunks Homura's scaling. If anything, it gives us even more context for why she was heavily restricted.
>>290636508Her only operating within a single city is pretty dumb.
>>290635958The worst part is that currently maybe 75% of those "bitter tards" is just the Steins;Gate shitter samefagging to tell everyone how they are supposed to think about the movie.
>>290636372>>290636403>fan favorite workhorse gets the madorub and is pushed to the main event>turns mega heel and is poised to begin a reign of terror >jobs and gets buried by a bunch of no name mystery newcomersWho booked this shit?
>>290636579Okay, that's basically like saying that Umineko characters who literally reach Outerversal are restricted to a single island.Don't forget that the movie focuses on Homura trying to preserve Madoka's normal life in the physical world. The biggest reason for Homura being weakened is Madoka herself, because any mistake could cause her to remember the events, like what happened at the end of Rebellion when they were in the hallway.
>>290636690>that's basically like saying that Umineko characters who literally reach Outerversal are restricted to a single islandThat's not at all the same thing (and please don't bring battleboarding retardation here, you should have your opinion discarded for so much as using 'outerversal' unironically).Anyway,>Homura is shown taking over the whole universe at the end of Rebellion>Homura takes over the meguca creation process by taking over Qb >Wraiths or monsters of some kind still exist in the Homuverse, which is why she needs temporary megucas>the Homuphone only works in a single townBecause clearly the idea that Kyubey is doing his regular stuff outside the town is stupid, Homura is either letting the whole world be overrun by monsters and only protecting the town with megucas, or she put the rest of the world into stasis and the Homuverse is just a city-sized barrier illusion same as Rebellion's, just a little better done. Both are dumb.
>>290635687>Even if Kaiten is shit can we all agree that it's better than Steins;GateAgreed
>outerversalNow that’s a word I haven’t heard in years.
>>290636508The Clara Dolls were around. Ai still missing. While claiming Nazukasokotsune is fully independent from the Law of Cycles might explain why Homura has no power therein, it fails to make sense on a more fundamental level: there's no reason it shouldn't have been absorbed by the Law of Cycles. It being Marguerite's creation means that it should have been absorbed when Madoka destroyed Walpurgisnacht. The Law of Cycles does keep records of the witches destroyed (Oktavia, Charlotte) after all. Moreover, I'm pretty sure Wasu pulled Chouka and Selma out from the Law of Cycles, not Nazukasokotsune. Hell Selma doesn't even use her witch form unlike Chouka.
>>290637269If it wasn't obvious by now, Ai is Devil Homura herself.>Ai is described as a devil in official materials >Devil Homura is the embodiment of love>Illustrations from the production notes show Ai around the clara dolls, but Ai is the only one who wears a black dress, the same dress Homura was wearing during her confrontation with Kyubey
>>290636594Homura and failure are an inseparable duo and always have been. The girl is a walking fuck up and has been since day 1.
>>290629789>Homu hetting cucked by Wasu-senpai and blueballed by Law of CyclesBeing Homu is suffering. We unironically need a sequel and nips are saying the same thing. Madoka Magica is all about Muhdoka and Homo's story
>>290638506getting*
>>290636867Yeah, they're not exactly the same thing, but my point still stands. The example was just to show that a character being physically restricted to something that looks small doesn't automatically mean that thing itself is small, or that their power is limited to that thing.So how exactly do you expect us to talk about a character's power? Yeah, battleboarding is full of bullshit, but it's still the most logical framework we have for discussing this shit.We don't even know if Homura's phone only works in one city. That's literally just a logical leap where you're assuming from the start that because we don't see her doing anything outside the city, she's somehow restricted to it. I haven't even watched the movie yet, so I don't know whether Kyubey is operating outside the city. But again, none of this actually refutes anything I said.Well, you're making a lot of mistakes, and the first one is that you don't understand the difference between being omnipresent and simply existing somewhere.Take Sonic for example. He can destroy universes, but he still exists in one place rather than being everywhere at once.This is basically like saying Goku can't destroy universes because he doesn't know what Chi-Chi says about him when he's not around. It's literally irrelevant. You're just throwing unrelated things together and then assuming Kyubey operates outside the city in the first place. For all we know, he could be in some dimension Homura can't perceive, like the one outside the universe, or somewhere else entirely.And even then, the Goku argument still applies.
>>290636867Also, magical girls and witches themselves are stated to be able to defy the laws of the universe. Power in Madoka is tied to emotions, because emotions and karma are treated as metaphysical things in the story, rather than just chemical reactions.You're also completely ignoring the point about Homura's power being fragmented.If her power is being divided between maintaining the world, maintaining Madoka's normal existence, and preventing the Law of Cycles from entering, then you obviously can't just look at what she does in this movie and treat that as the absolute maximum of her power.Especially when preventing the Law of Cycles from reaching Madoka is literally her main objective. She can't just freely deal with everything else while she's prioritizing that.It's literally stated to be an entire universe, we literally see Homura herself rewrite it, she outright says she can destroy it, and the author himself says the same thing.And that's not even getting into the cosmology, which establishes infinite dimensions and infinite universes within each universe in the story.
>>290637269Well, I haven't watched the movie yet, so I don't know whether they actually help her in combat or not. I'm talking specifically about the combat aspect here, not whether the Clara Dolls still exist or not.As for Ai, I think it's pretty obvious that she's Homura herself. I believe the other person here already explained that to you.It seems that Marguerite is the one who created the concept of witches. We know Madoka destroyed Walpurgisnacht, but we never actually saw her purify her the way she did with Nagisa in the game or Sayaka in the Wraith Arc.I don't know about the third point, but what we do know is that Homura removed Madoka's records from the Law of Cycles, surpassing Madoka's authority in Rebellion. This means the way the Law of Cycles operates has changed, and I think that's one of the reasons Selma and Chouka appeared, but I'm not completely sure. We need the movie to know more.
>>290639564>We don't even know if Homura's phone only works in one cityThe narration says so explicitly at the start of the movie.
>>290639564>>290639596>>290639632Autistic people don't deserve to have their voice heard.
>>290639755We don't know how long Homura's system has been active (by the looks of it, not much).Maybe Homura was using Mitakihara as her testing ground before expand the system to the whole universe.
>>290639755The narrator doesn't say that it operates in a single city. He says that there's a rumor. How do you not know the difference?Anyway, I'll take this as a concession from you since you didn't respond to anything I said
>>290639799Nice dodge, bro.If you can't actually engage in the discussion, then just stay quiet.
>>290640156Homufags will say this shit (ignoring MagiReco canon) and then argue the opening of Rebellion is objective truth.
>>290639632>Clara DollsIn that case, no, they're not involved when Homura fights Wasu.>We know Madoka destroyed Walpurgisnacht, but we never actually saw her purify her the way she did with Nagisa in the game or Sayaka in the Wraith Arc.It's implicit. Also the words she says to Marguerite are the exact same she says in episode 12. My assumption is that Wasu "leaked" out of the Law of Cycles somehow, unlike Sayaka and Nagisa who were deliberately kept around by Homura, but her memories fragmented, she because obsessed with reuniting with her savior. Wasu being Walpurgisnacht is an amalgamation of witches (Marguerite and her convent) and assumes Madoka is Marguerite because Marguerite herself lost her identity and her fellow nuns all cried out to her to save them from despair. And because Walpurgisnacht leaked out, so did the library she created.The problem with the theory that Homura is so weak because she's spending so much of her power keeping the Law of Cycles at bay is that she doesn't act that way at all.
>>290640233I'm not ignoring anything. You're the one who doesn't understand.The narrator was talking about the existence of a rumor in the city, and that rumor is true. But why are you assuming from the start that this rumor only exists in that city? Or why are you assuming that her operating in the city somehow debunks anything about Homura rewriting the universe with its galaxies and dimensions, or anything else?The argument is flawed from the very beginning because it assumes that the narrator mentioning a rumor in a city means "she only operates in that city."Also, regarding Magia Record, let me surprise you by saying that I consider most of Madoka's side stories canon.
>>290640498>I consider most of Madoka's side stories canonDon't worry, your post formatting already gave your profound retardation away.
>>290640498>a secret to everyone>a secret passed down only among the girls of MitakiharaPoor anon can't read.
>>290640340Also, it's worth noting Homura doesn't really lose her grip on the Law of Cycles either. It only comes into play after Homura makes the deliberate choice to wake it up after Selma betrays Wasu for Kyubey and tries to turn Madoka into Gretchen.
>>290629789Somehow they are airing each movie per week starting this friday in my shithole country.
>>290640340Since they don't actually help her in combat, I think that supports my point that her power is fragmented and that she isn't using all of it for combat, since she has to divide it between maintaining the world and everything else.I agree with the rest of what you said regarding Wasu and Walpurgisnacht, so I don't really have anything to argue against there.As for the last point, I think that's something we're supposed to infer rather than something we're explicitly shown. Madoka Magica relies heavily on inference and gradually revealing information. Homura separating Madoka in Rebellion initially looked like a completely random event, but as the years went by, we came to understand why she was capable of doing it.Also, regarding my argument that Homura's power is fragmented, do you remember when I mentioned the lizard earlier? Since I haven't watched the movie, one of my arguments was that the scene we saw in the trailer, where the lizard enters Homura's body, was the moment when she was trying to reclaim Madoka and failed. That's why I considered it evidence that her power was fragmented.
