Volume 65Hashirama and MadaraChapter 620: Senju Hashiramahttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>290667989
>>290716744>>290716763>Conqueror's Haki
>>290716789Massive Solo King upscale
>>290716728The GOATkage.
>>290716897Madara looks so excited in the last panel. I wonder what kind of wood dragon jutsu he's expecting to see?
>>290716763Goddamn Jugo protecting Sasuke feels so forced and stupid.
B&W
>>290716814So nice to see that sensory types are literally everywhere now, making the tracking ninjas from part 1 completely useless.
>>290716839Obvious retcon, in Part 1 Hiruzen said Hashirama and Tobirama were exactly how he remembered them.
>>290717035you heard him folks. itachi>hashirama.
>>290716704>Activating MS just to deactivate it on the next panel
>>290716744>Tracing Wan PissSHARTmoto...
>>290716814So Minato does remember meeting Naruto? I guess the afterlife works like the cloud and his chakra he put in Naruto transmigrated to bring the information to him.
>>290716789Hiruzen, you fucking beat this motherfucker why are you acting like this!?
Done!Starting tomorrow the dump will be an hour earlier, thanks to DST.
>>290716851Tobiramabros...we're WEAK!
>>290717215thanks for the funnycomfy!
>>290716930>>290716947>>290717205>>290717215Arigatou, OP!
>>290717215thanks op.
>>290716930Oh there you are Perfect SusanooNice to see youIn the past
Not to stirr up shipping shit but i believe that they would create stronger kids had they swapped wifes.
>>290705401 I felt his pain really i did with those shitty ai.
>>290717215>thanks to DST.That's not until November? What? Warehouse most have moved your lunch time lol
>>290716851>muh hashirama cellsLike a satire at this point
>>290716897How did Madara even manage to make Kurama his summon?
Why doesn't Orochimaru just summon Edo Yagura to make him spawn water clones of Madara and Obito that would fight for them
>>290716851This doesn't make any sense with the later retcon that the Zetsus aren't actually Hashirama clones
>>290716930His episode seems to take like 30 minutes...
>>290717359I live in Chile.
>>290717595Oof
>>290717595Sup fellow Latino
>>290717417Base sharingan neg diffs the kyuubi as of the Sasuke/Sai arc.
>>290717595I don't believe you.
>>290717359American...
>>290717714Chile is the only country where the DST starts exactly tomorrow.
>>290716851>Hashirama is aware of how bullshit his cells areShit's weird.
>>290716728>My family was exterminated and my brother became a criminal, all because of the village, that's why I want revenge>ONLY AN UCHIHA CAN BE THIS RETARDED, NOW DIE
>>290717871It kinda makes sense when you consider that nobody else in his clan had Wood Style, not even his direct relatives
>>290716930another flashback, kishi?
>>290717941>all because of the villageIt was actually only because of 1 boomer (or 4 at best). Strange that the series never bothers to point out Sasuke's retarded logic even when he stops being an edgy psycho.
>>290637570
>>290718103He already killed Danzo. Sasuke is basically a school shooter at this point.
>>290716801>Madara literally couldn't shut the fuck up about Hashirama ever since he got revived>Hashirama hears his name uttered once and goes "Not this fucking faggot again" Lmao
>>290716744>>290716763Do you think Hashirama would have actually attacked Tobirama if he had tried to take out Sasuke? Knowing that they're edos might make it an easy decision.But I get the impression that Hashirama was really annoyed by a lot of Tobirama's decisions and actions.
>>290718294To be fair Hashirama is also being kind of a faggot here.He just heard Madara is back and he's probably out there gleefully killing hundreds or thousands of people, he knows there's a chance the guy in front of him might try to destroy Konoha, and he still decides to waste time telling him how the village was made (because I guess he never got any history lessons at the academy) when he could break out of the Edo and curbstomp everyone else in the room.
>>290716851>>290716930Fuck this shit. Hiruzen made being Hokage look cool, him being old as shit but also the strongest makes sense and was perfect for the story. Every character has to suffer because of Uchiha wank.
Hiashi won.
>>290716789S O L O K I N GOLOKING
>>290716789>You haven't changed a bit, Lord HashiramaI mean, yeah. As far as he's concerned it's been about a minute since he died, why would he have changed?
>>290717166Or he just remembers sealing the Fox in Naruto exactly for that reason
>>290718838Chill Tobirama.
>>290717312What do Sakura's genes offer to Naruto's offspring?
>>290716851it's super weird to have confirmation that Hashirama cells work against another member of the Senju clan. He's literally his brother, their cells can't be that different
why is sarutobi a manlet
>>290719020also why did they bring him back OLD
Thank you comfy kages
>>290716869>I do not know which way this uchiha child will swingI've got a bit of an idea
So are all of the 4 hokage stronger than the previous Edo kage or what?
>>290716839Funny how Tobirama can't just asspull his way out of it like Madara.
The queen of gluttony everybody...
>>290717697And not once since has sharingan been used to shut down Naruto from using Kurama. Would have come real handy in that training arc where they had Kakashi and Yamato babysit him from going berserk, you know. Instead it was just wood style wood style hashirama cells wood style
>>290716814>That's Narutos chakraBased on what? You last saw him as an 1h old infant. Do they even posses sensible chakra yet?
>>290716789>>290717035
>>290716930This should have been the final design for the perfect Susanoo it looks so cool and otherworldly. Instead of this lame Tengu samurai.
>>290716930Rare Madara non-tengu complete Susano'o doing something.
tobirama really went and fucked up everything huh?
>>290716789Did Itachifags really like this over-the-top glazing he's been getting? I'd probably feel embarrassed if one of my favorite characters was getting this fanfic level kind of praising.
>>290719152Can they take down a tailed beast, like several hokages have done?
>>290717166>>290718875He could also just remember how Naruto's chakra feels like from when he was born.
>>290717016>Obvious retcon, in Part 1 Hiruzen said Hashirama and Tobirama were exactly how he remembered them.Yeah. However, Orochimaru did have them in a weakened state until he put the tags into their heads. After that, their conditions were upgraded. That could be what Tobirama means.
>>290716942>Madara looks so excited in the last panelYou haven't seen anything yet.
>>290719690You realize you're talking about Itachifags, right?
>>290716728based tobirama just can't stop giving us reaction image nuggets
>>290716930Madara should have become Kurama's Jinchuriki instead of just summoning him. He would have bodied Hashirama.
>>290716728damn brat possessed by uchiha evil...needs senju correction!!
>>290719798Uchihas are chakralets I think.
>>290719076that's the same as Madara though
>>290717507Why doesn't he just summon Yugito so she can oneshot them??
>>290719152>So are all of the 4 hokage stronger than the previous Edo kage or what?Pretty much, except for Hiruzen maybe.
>>290716728>So what's your real reason?Was this ever bought up again? I skipped ahead and couldn't find anything in particular. He later mentioned that he was meant to become Hokage before Minato took over, so was it that? Or some deeper symbolism from Hashirama's and Madara's story, where Orochimaru mirrors Madara?
>>290719912It's never directly addressed. I guess the implication is that Orochimaru blamed the village for his parents' death like Jiraiya said much earlier, since it's compared to Sasuke's hatred.
>>290716744>Character causes passive damage to their surroundings just by aurafarmingIt's such a dumb trope, but I love it so much.
>>290716883>Dragonslayer sword Huh, I don't remember there being a Berserk reference
>>290719943>muh dead parent/love/friend motivationI just wish Kishi was more creative with these tragic backstories. Like, there's that filler flashback of Karin being human trafficked and sexually assaulted. That feels far darker than any other backstory from the manga.
I don't like this volume coverI don't like Sasuke chaptersI don't like the return of the hokage
>>290716715>Talk you stupid first hokage or whatever! Depending on your words, I might decide to destroy Konoha!!Sasuke is such a fucking bitch
>>290716763>even Oro is sweating like a bitch
>>290716930...Ninjas?
>>290719907Damn, the absolute state of the shinobi world. And Rasa is an even bigger shitter than the other 3.
>>290716897Anyone else finds it strange how only the big kaiju are shown getting sharingan eyes whenever someone uses a sharingan genjutsu on them? Human characters don't get that, with the only exception being the edo jinchuriki.
>>290720784The edo jinchuriki weren't under genjutsu either, just paths of pain thing.
Hashirama and Iruka are lookalike maybe Iruka is Senju
>>290719783don't EVER ask an antiuchihist the clan origins of his wife
>>290721542what's the uchi equivalent to khazarmilkers
>>290716839reminder that this war has established that someone who knows how to dispel Edo Tensei can do so whilst being an ET themselves, which begs the question why Tobirama did not do so immediately the first time he was brought back during the Konoha Crush. >oh shit someone revived me, I'm not going to give them the time to bind me *RELEASE*
>>290721664Yeah and they keep trying to wank how some ninjas are high tier only because they can hand sign fast. He could have done it before Oro fucking blinked and released
>>290717312Depends, do you value the Uzumaki bloodline or the Uchiha one more? Because Sakura is dead weight no matter where you put her.The Hyuga and the Uchiha themselves are already related, I doubt you'd get the effects of inbreeding because they're so distant but I think it ultimate is wasted potential to pair them together.
>>290716930Uchiha wank pales in comparison to the monolith that is Hashirama wank.
I think Naruto is a stupid fucking series and this whole manga is badly written, but I genuinely enjoy Hashirama's personality.
>Hinata>Tsunade>SamuiBig fucking huge tits.That's all I care about.
>>290721664They'd have to execute the justsu on themselves in a window between a full binding release and the jutsu's release, Tobirama couldn't do that because he was sealed insteadThat and Hashirama cells fuckery lol
>>290721664I always thought that you had to dispel it as the caster is trying to dispel you, so Madara after talking to Kabuto was just biding his time. But this chapter Kishimoto is acting like your resistance to being an edo zombie is a function of power level which makes no sense.
>>290717312>>290721919Boruto hasn't gotten the byakugan yet and it's probably too fucking late for that anyway, even if Sakura birthed him he wasn't going to be an unga bunga medic eitherway as long as Ike and Kishi are concerned.Sarada depends if kishi would stick to the original idea of 1 of each eye or just have the uchiha genes overpower the hyuuga genes, so she'd either be technically weaker or the same.Himawari is weird to scale since she's supposedly a good user of the gentle fist but Ikefucko ignored that to make her another jinchuriki whose boosted by chakra control, so depending on whether or not the hack decides to bring her byakugan back you can argue Hima would be stronger with Sakura as a mother.
Uhhhhh... how much in ryo do I need to pay for child support..?
>>290723528Best to just kill yourself.
>>290718838Hiruzen had already been powercrept before that
>Naruto characters are actually lilliputians theory
>>290722681Hashirama is just Naruto clone #2356 though?
Thought it was weird how all villages use the same currency, googled the world ryo. Turns out it's a real life gold used in Japan before yen
>>290723824Hashirama is Naruto but better because he actually feels like he understand how the cruel world works and is rather than being this pussy ass Disney ninja who doesn't kill anyone.
>>290723959I think the amounts used in Naruto are ridiculously high though.
>>290723959Asuma was worth 35 million ryo right? How high would that be in dollar?
Naruto world is so underdeveloped, those monks from 300 chapters ago feel like a fever dream. Now it's narrowed down to daymyo - villages - ninjas. But better not think about it, finish the manga and move to other ip.
>>290723990This. Hashirama actually had to interact with the ninja world of death, fighting, and brutality. He then gained strength to attempt to end it and bring some semblance of order and peace to the world.Naruto never has to go to war, never has to kill anyone, all of his enemies are killed by someone else or kill themselves, but now he talks like he knows how this shit works. He's never had to make a difficult decision in his life. His decision to spare and let Pain go was the hardest decision he had to make, which would have validated a lot of his bullshit if he actually had to deal with the consequences of his decision. Thankfully Pain just kills himself, revives everyone he's killed, and the village is remade in a few days.
>>290724089It would be 525 tons of gold, or 70 billion dollars.
>>290724228>Asuma along is more expensive then drones and jets used in warDang
>>290723990Naruto is a teen, Hashirama is an adult.We don't know how old Hashirama was when he died
>>290716930Best flashback in the series is here. Foundation of the village, early politics, and probably the most brutal era of the ninja wars.
>>290716883>ANOTHER another flashbackRiveting. They should call this the Flashback War
>>290717186>that noseInstant aura loss
what stops ninjas from creating guns
>>290719578This is gif is at least 12 years old lol
Hiruzen is strangely calm standing next to his killer
>>290722681I like Hashirama's personality but I think he's far too nice and pleasant towards Sasuke right now, which is mostly because Sasuke has plot on his side. The Hashirama I like is the one that was nicer to Madara but didn't hesitate to kill him to protect the village
Cropshitter dissappeared, but that's okay. The manga is just scribbles at this point. Nothing interesting to cut
>>290716728my hero
>>290724430Naruto will literally act the same as an adult.
>>290725507No tenten no crops.
>>290716690What's the purpose of that armor on Tobirama's ass. He can't even sit properly
>>290725877you would not normally sit in a war situationand it's clearly got strings or rings or something latching it on
>>290724712Kek wtf, why does the dragon have an elephant trunk
>>290716690ugly cover
>>290724038Kishi use it as a direct replacement for yen. it's like if we replaced the word dollar with penny. fun fact, the yen used to be subdivided into 100 sen, but Japan hyperinflated the yen so bad in during and immediately after the war that the sen became worthless. back in the 1930s, one yen was worth a little more than a dollar.
>>290716728*gasp* the wushi finger hold!!
>>290716763way to step in to help right as the danger passes jugo, like a true american teacher
Sasukeh, your penis smells like fish sticks. Why?
>>290716763Seriously, why is Suigetsu still here? It's not like he's even relevant at all for the rest of the story. Why is he following Orochimaru around and calling him "lord"? Why not just have him go "yeah I'm out" after Sasuke decides to bring back Orochimaru?
wakattendayowakanda yo
>>290716814>naruto, you did it!>i mean, i told kushina you could>but that was mostly to give myself an out to kill myself so i wouldn't have to raise you without her>ask yourself son, would you raise you?>by yourself?>with NO REDHEAD RETARD PUSSY SON>those sealing jutsu the uzumaki had were nothing compared to how tight she sealed to my dick>that's why my name was the yellow flash!>and none of those worn sluts in the village even compared>i tried with an uchiha girl countless times, but the sharingan doesn't help when their eyes always roll to the back of their heads, know what i mean?>you like girls, don't you son?>you're not doing something gay like ignoring a girl's confession, being strung on by and then rejecting the village's worstst honeytrap and spending your life chasing after some guy that doesn't even like you right?
>>290719816that was my first thought tooit's over for me
Sasuke is so rapeable
>>290716851>i have to be careful>god of shinobi that he is, hasirama can turn all the cells of his i cloned to cum at any moment
>>290716851>>290716869>don't you worry orochimaru>i'll give him the ol' patented senju hashirama pry and profile>though i can't say he will swing the same way after this>so he will probably have to face difficult new personal feelings if he wants to restore his clan
>>290727023I can't tell whether or not you're itachi or Oro.
>>290727128>Only browns make sex related jokes
>>290727158duh it's a naruto thread
You just know that if she and him meet , forget about sasuke she is fucking minato until she dies.
>>290716690You're already at Hashirama flashback? Damn, time flies. I dropped out of those threads a month ago when we were still at masked Tobi fight kek
>>290727507Nearly 3 months to go still.
>>290716851instead of "cells" i think he should use the word fleshotherwise it kinda sounds like cell implants have been around for a while
>>290727158I'm white northern european though
>>290720616they're wearing samurai armorninjas have rewritten history and pretended hashirama wasn't a samurai
>>290727158True
>>290727796Explains why you post about BBC a lot.
>>290727836I admit Hanabi is built for B, but it has nothing to do with that. They're just the perfect pairing character-wise.
>>290726896Topkek
funnycomfy
All-OPs-are-the-same-person-bros... Our response?
>>290721664I thought you can only do that during the brief moment when the caster undoes the ET ?
>>290716851this would be a lot less awkward by just renaming it to "senju cells" rather than "hashirama cells"
>>290727023Ino...
>>290729841The senju are nobodies without Hashirama, Tobirama is a fraud.
>>290721664It's possible that Tobirama is unaware that you can do that, The reverse handsign was something that only Madara figured out while waiting in his man cave.
>>290726896He said this.
>TumbleweedsNot shocked, this is the natural state of the daily. Would have been archived hours ago if it wasn't for 1 absolute fucking schizo NECRO-BUMPING..but whatever.
>>290730477I'm just done, there's nothing interesting in this chapter.
>>290730477>necro-bumpNot a valid term on 4chan.
I guess we could talk about how Hashirama isn't actually gay for Madara, making him the best Naruto variant by default.
>>290719816lols
>>290716715lord third, your son is dead lol
>>290716912>Fight choreographymanga>fight clarityCC2 The problem with this fight is the weekly schedule. Kishimoto’s spreads and kaiju fights are really well done. But you can tell the schedule is messing with Kishimoto’s pencils
>>290731086>Which one?>The smoker>Good riddance
>>290716789>A shinobi even greater than IHow does Hashirama know that? Dude never even met Itachi. Is that conclusion based only on what he just heard?
>>290732054Relevant characters learn about Itachi through osmosis.
>>290716801>Somehow Madara has returned
>>290719887yugito is weaksauce
Post naked Sakura
>>290716715>First Hokage.. depending on your answer I might destroy Konoha!>>290716728>Th-that glare?! *gulp* P-please forgive me Tobirama-sama I was not in my right mind when I said that...KWABsuke
>>290734378Wrong!
>>290716851Hashirama cells might be worse than the sharingan at this point
>>290717515But to be fair Kabuto and Tobi did use Yamato to power them up and he has Hashirama's cells
>>290716869This chapter really made Tobirama look like a bitchFirst Hashirama intimidates him, then Orochimaru makes him look like a dunce after he boasts that he can break free of the edo tensei like Madara did, and to add insult to injury Orochimaru has to point out that Hashirama could still free himself if he wanted to
>>290726896
>>290727023B...
>>290726896narutards seriously find that funny?
>Naruto will always remains shorter than SasukeFills my heart with joy
>>290736342>>290736170sex with rin
bumping the funnycomfy
Hanabump no Jutsu!
>>290738465Thanks buddy, it's good to know there is someone else that is a no life loser like me.
>>290730455how does one just "figure that out"? he would need someone to revive him as an ET to be able to experiment with it.
>>290734504>Naruto goes from 5'6 as a 16 year old to nearly 6' as a 19 year old
>>290734504Do manlets really?
>>290737312I get the point of this scene was to show how Joi never actually loved K but was just programmed to act that way, but who actually bought that Joi had real emotions? I knew from the first scene of her with K that she was just following her programming so it had no emotional impact. no different than current AI chatbots like ChatGPT.
>>290738704my interpretation of the film was wildly different than everyone else's, it would seem. I saw it as a story of a "disposable cog" rising above his station and actually doing something meaningful, a show of how you can be a man and a hero without being a superhero. I saw it as inspiring rather than a 'blackpill'.
>>290738646It plays with the plot point of Joe thinking he's special, so both him and (some of) the audience are convinced that he actually earned Joi's genuine affection somehow, but then the twist happens Joe realizes how wrong he was.
>>290716728damn brat...
>>290716744FUAAAARK
It's funny how the lesson Sasuke takes from this flashback is that yes, shit used to be even worse than now.
>>290716827>I am sticking with this childClassic Orochimaru.
>>290738878Did you watch the original?
>>290738878they aren't androids. they're flesh and blood but cooked in a lab rather than created organically through reproduction. like, they are assembled, cell by cell, in a factory. the impetus of the franchise is to ask, what actually makes someone human? can a being created artificially truly think and feel like a human can? the plot of 2049 more directly addresses it with how one of the replicants actually managed to get pregnant and give birth organically like a human, which isn't supposed to happen. the 'chosen one girl' is that child, fully grown. K thought he was the child, but all of his memories of that event were artificially implanted in him to try and bait him into rescuing the girl who was currently being kept locked away so people wouldn't find out about her. >>290738799my point was, I already saw that twist coming. Of course I could empathise with K's desire for companionship and I could understand why he would anthropomorphise the Joi program to try and fill that emotional need, but I was never convinced like he was. I mostly felt sorry for him for being fooled.
>>290736170obito gets to plap this in heavenhe is so lucky
>>290729841It wouldn't work because neither Tobirama, Tsunade nor Nawaki have DNA that is worth a damn.
Does Sasuke actually learn anything relevant from Hashirama's backstory? His answer at the end basically boils down to "muh brother Itachi, I have to protect what he loved". It really doesn't have anything to do with what Hashirama told him.
>>290739942He found out that the village was founded for good reasons. I suppose he suspected that it was always a rotten system for the purpose of exploitation.
>>290716763When did Suigetsu turn into such a bitch? Did getting his ass handed to him by Bee kill his confidence?
>>290738519Because he's Madara, duh.
>>290726483because fujos
Chapter 621: Hashirama and Madara
>>290743157He was popular among funoshi?
Imagine having the strongest bijuu by your side + perfect susan EMS and STILL lose the fight.FRAUDara is a joke.
>>290743867>>290743896Massive 4 tails Naruto and cerberus Kiba upscale.
>>290743960>NinjasAlso, What's even the advantage of all these hands?
>>290744069Lame ass haircut.
B6W
>>290743797Ninjas?
>>290743867Sakon upscale
>>290718103>>290717941You are such retards. Educate yourselves on blood feuds
>>290744046Much greater attack speed to slap your opponent with 10000 apm
>>290743867I actually forgot Hashirama could use them. Kinda weird after it seemed they were related to Orochimaru since him and Sakon/Ukon were the only other uses.
Done!
>>290744362I feel like Hashirama should have had a flashback of meeting Buddha to explain his ultimate jutsu. Although, on second thought, that kind of attention would only go to Minato.
>>290743960Couldn't an Earth Release also do this but with rocks? And wouldn't that technically be better since it's be sturdier?
>>290739241There's barely any ass to plap there
>>290743932I like the headcanon that Hashirama is using slug sage mode.
>>290744069>>290744088>>290744452>>290744473Arigatou, OP!
What was the point of making Hashirama and Madara so OP? They make the strongest shinobi of the modern age look like toddlers
>>290744473ty for dump
>>290744598No, wood is the best.>>290744727To make the war longer, of course.
>>290744727Kishi just makes everything bigger, the longer the manga goes and they happen to appear at the end.
>>290743749>9 tails with a susan armorgoofy
>>290744069This flashback was the first time when it truly struck me that this is an anime for literal children.
>>290743867>>290743960Shinobi...?
>>290744069arrogant little brat he was
>>290744362You have to remember Hashirama is an unreliable narrator, was probably embellishing the facts to impress Sasuke
>>290745226According to what?
Imagine the braaps this women produces.>evaporated milk plus desert.its no wonder sasuke is never home.
>So then I was like "kaboooomm!" but then Madara was like "KABOOOOOOOOM" and then I was like "fuck you", so I summoned my giant thousand armed deity>You paying attention, Sasuke? This is important.
What makes Wood Style so strong compared to every other element or mix of elements?
>>290745322He was literally the only person there except Madara? How do you know he's not bullshitting?
>>290746120How do you know Itachi wasn't bullshitting when he told Sasuke that their parents were totally fine with Itachi killing them?
>>290746447Because nobody is allowed to be mad at Itachi.
>>290744667>Damn you Kakashi, because of you I must spend eternity slapping my balls against a tight, super fit, 13 year old girl's ass.NOOOOO!
>>290746447I don't know that. Start questioning every flashback when there is an incentive to lie
>>290745933Kishimoto really likes wood.
>>290746447I don't think they were fine with it even in Itachi's version. They just didn't want to fight their son.
>>290744473thanks, comfy OP!
>ninjas BELIEVE IT
>>290744046it's a Buddhist thing.
>>290743960>>290743983The scale is a little inconsistent for artistic reasons, but on the high end this thing is like 5 kilometers tall.>>290745933Wood is just specifically strong against Bijuu, and Hashirama makes it look even stronger just because he's Hashirama.
>>290745933I've said it multiple times in these threads, east asian cultures view wood as holy with healing powers and symbolic of the Gods, whereas metal represents mankind and material existence. which is why the traditional five elements of China include wood and metal, and they directly oppose/nullify each other. Hashirama basically has the Asian equivalent of White Magic.
>>290746523the twist is he's 12 too, so his nuts haven't really dropped yet and therefore he's got a useless little shots pindick. homeboy is in hell
>>290746523He may enjoy it. Tapping that boney ass would remind him of his days spend with Madara.
>>290747136Oh dear lord, so he's been suffering puberty delusions for all these years and never had the chance to grow out of it? Now I just feel bad for the guy.
>>290743960Why is the text autistic
>>290747136How's that work anyway? Rin is the age she died, but why did Obito de-age?
>>290746865Fugaku literally told Itachi he's proud of him right before he ran his sword through him.
So Sakon is from Chile? Do they have a lot of warehouses there? It explains why his English comes off as ESL.
>>290747367You're a day late to the party
>>290743749What is this retarded mouth armor? It's a fox, it's bite is its most powerful attack. Even in universe the biju bomb comes from the mouth. Its like plugging the barrel of a gun.
>>290743983>>290744017>>290744042Why not just start at them meeting as kids?
>>290747685He just can't resist the riding the the thousand armed god, record scratch, "yep that's me, bet you're wondering how I got here" bit.
>>290744861It's kinda cool
I applaud Kishimoto, he somehow made me not care about the action in an action manga.
>>290747294Got to play it safe with the gaijin audience.
>>290743960Just what the fuck is Hashirama
>>290747906>And they were blissful together evermore in the afterlife. Don't think about how his adult member distends her twelve year old tummy from the inside; nope, they're just a couple kids, frolicking in summer meadows and what not.
>>290745652Imagine being Hashirama's brother and having to listen to him boasting about that shit while you invented... shadow clones...
>>290743983>>290744017>Hashirama: And then I summoned a gargantuan statue with 1000 hands>Sasuke: But sir, I asked you what is a village and what is a shinobi>Hashirama: Oh right, sorry
>so blessed by genetics not a single aspect of his power was grafted or taken from something elseEven knowing future details, Naruto couldn't even come close to Hashirama without handouts.
>>290746523>>290747136>>290747140>>290747294>>290747906Kill yourself
>>290747997Actual genetic freak who also somehow had the one style that hard-counters the most powerful monsters in the world.
>>290748308>A village is what someone like me could create you little shitstain and a shinobi is something your generation pretends to be!
>>290747906Ew
>>290748311Didn't he at least have to learn Sage Mode from someone else like Naruto and Kabuto did?
>>290748359It makes it all the more hilarious that he's the reincarnation of a guy who was totally supposed to be a hard worker that wasn't at all more talented than his brother.
>>290748150He also made edo tensei which is just as broken as hashirama cells.
>>290743896>>290744042See, it's a parallel!Madara's attack went all the way to the other continent, but back in the day he sucked at skipping stones!Kishimoto you did it again!
The Hashi Madara fight was so fucking kino in Storm 4>>290744598Wood is more flexible + natural energy buff I guess
>>290748595A great twist would be to make Hashirama the actual Indra incarnation of the duo.So you can spice things up, not all Indras were evil and not all Ashura were good.
>>290748519I think that Sage Mode may just be his own thing. Everyone assumes slug just to match toad and snake, but he's pretty much nature itself with all his wood style bullshit.
>>290748519I think Hashirama, being who he is, wouldn't need it. Let's think back to when Naruto learned it. Even with the oil to quicken the absorption of nature energy, the frog transformation was still slow. And to use Sage Mode, all you need to do is balance out nature energy with your physical and mental energies. Since Hashirama is so fucking cracked, he could just keep absorbing nature energy and never run the risk of taking it too much because his own chakra levels are basically limitless.
>>290747085Weird how we never got Metal Release. There's Magnet Release but that feels a lot like a throwaway Kekkei Genkai compared to Wood.
What comfy discussions this place always has. Comfy threads!
>>290744890Why exactly?
>>290748955there's a Steel Release in one of the movies.
>>290734504Cute detailAlso I don't get why the anime staff decided to give the filler chick from the second image a widow's peak. It looks so fucking weird.
>>290743983Are those really 1000?
>>290743983That statue looks like a real pain to draw.
>>290749523yeah I just counted them
>>290749609Thanks, bro. I trust you.
>>290743932>>290743960LOL, imagine being Madara, teaming up with the nine tails, fighting Hashirama for hours, only to realize that he was holding back this entire time.
it just occurred to me that kekkei genkai are split into two forms; ones based on yin release and the other on yang release. stuff like ice release is yang, whereas byakugan/sharingan are yin
>>290745652>>290748308lol
>>290749523I bet this thing is a ton of fun to draw.
>>290743932reached what?
>>290749750How is the Byakugan yin?
>>290748359How would wood counter fire>wood is supposedly OP because you grow shit out of nothing
>80 more days of this garbage
>>290749367Too much focus on childish stone tossing bs and kiddo promises. Less focus on actual horrors of war. Notice how every important event of note happens to every character when they are 12-14 and its always the most juvenile bullshit ever. I already knew this is a kid's anime but Obito's backstory and now this really hammer in the point. It's notable because part 1 feels far more mature
>>290749945it's not a 'five nature' release like ice or wood are.
>>290750255But that doesn't make sense because yin and yang are also nature releases just like the 5 main natures. Stuff like ice release are combinations of the main 5.Also Byakugan would fit more as a Yang release, because Yang is about giving form to already existing things while Yin creates form out of nothingness. Byakugan is a Kekkei Genkai for your already existing eyeballs, so it fits Yang more imo. (same could be said about Sharingan but the Sharingan is also tied to genjutsu n shit, so you could say it feels more like Yin)
>>290750597'nature' means something else here. yin release is based around mental projections, which is why they don't require handseals and why amaterasu isn't a normal fire style jutsu. yang is about physical manifestations of chakra. yang is both the elemental jutsu and stuff like rasengan which has no elemental affinity because it's raw chakra.
>>290743797>>290743896>>290743960>this scale of everythingI'm going to take this as his embellished retelling and not even close to what actually happened.
>>290750120The stone tossing is a metaphor for they reaching others side (like in a peace agreement). Initially they both gave this ideal up for horrors of war when their fathers attacked their brothers and they deflected the kunais with those stones. There’s your real life horrors of war bit. Also foreshadows how madara couldn’t reach the other side (couldn’t make peace with hashirama for Konoha). And instead took the peace building exercise as competition/supremacy.It’s a beautiful metaphor.
>>290751204You're not a good writer, Kishi.
>>290743983>5'11 vs 6'0
>>290743983Ashinabros...our response?
>>290751204You are an excellent writer, Kishi.
>>290751456...is what his wife told him to make him spend time with her and their children.
>>290747997Overwanked plot device.Hashirama cells doomed the character to never making any sense.
>>290743983Hardwork?
>>290743983These faraway shots are always so goofy because of how small they always make the mountains look. I mean, just look at the size of those dust clouds made by Kurama and the statue. It reminds me of that shot of the biju blast explosion from a few chapters ago, where some anon pointed out how the blast was 17 times bigger than the mountains and how that would've realistically killed everyone on earth.
>>290751204>The stone tossing is a metaphor for they reaching others side (like in a peace agreement). See? Even the themes are juvenile and immature. But that's another story. >There’s your real life horrors of war bit.>Two guys trying and failing to kill each other's kids because their eldest got in the way. Well tbf both Madara and Hashirama lost actual brothers in the war but the flashback focuses less on that and more on the kiddish nonsense and middle school pinky promises (a recurring theme in this anime).
>>290743731>>290743749This was like 50 years ago.This was something that happened in the living memory of many people in the ninja villages.
>>290752009I'm pretty sure even someone like Choza or Hiashi would be old enough to remember it.
>>290716728>DAMN BRAT!! UCHIHA CORRECTION!!
>>290743731>wood dragon stands up to kyuubi full power + SusanIts just a jutsu, no? Like edo tensei, its developed by a Kage but once it's out in the open anyone can summon it, right? If you need Hashi cells to control it or enhance its power, Madara is no stranger to that. Why doesnt Madara summon it, and then enhance THAT with Susano'o?
>>290752253And they teach 9-year-olds to throw sharp metal bits at things as a form of conflict resolution, as if sharp metal bits matter when kaiju can nuke entire islands from orbit.
>All hokage should've ruled for longer periods>Hashirama Madara battle should've happened much further in the past.>Hashirama and Tobirama shouldn't have been brothers. >Hashirama and Madara shouldn't have met as children. >Madara shouldn't be able to control kyubi. There. I fixed this part of the story.
>>290752721the problems with the war arc cut far deeper than those issues.
>>2907440461000 handjobs
>>290744046>you share a board with illiterate retards like these that don't even know what a senju kannon is
Hashirama is a gigachad who just beats Madara because he lifts a lot
>>290748619>I understood what was happening, that means this writer SUCKS.>I didn't understand what was happening, that means this writer SUCKS.People like you are why nothing will ever been good in the world again.
>>290744473thanks op.
>>290743921it's weird that with all the>I'm turning against the village, I'm going to kill you!>no, you're my friend, I don't want to kill you, just come back!-encounters the manga has cycled through so far, this time the Naruto-figure actually won for once
>>290743842>spinning susan sword bijuu bombby far the most retarded thing so far
>>290754274>wonHe lost his friend, that's not a win
>>290755071Hashirama doesn't seem to regret killing Madara.
>>290716789So how did Hiruzen even defeat these two BEASTS the first time?
>>290755306Hashirama is the masculine ideal. He takes the world as it is and acts as a man must.
>>290753983>Anon is too butthurt to see a joke when it's right in front of him.
>>290755999>jokeAs other anons have told you in these threads before, your autistic sense of humor never landed.
>>290755071The moment FRAUDara decided to attack the village, he stopped being Hashirama's friend.
>>290756032>As other anons have told youNobody has told me that in these threads.You must be mistaking me for someone else.
>>290751792I've had the same thought, Kishi draws mountain ranges as if they're small hills. Didn't notice the dust clouds thing til you pointed it out though, giant billowing clouds of smoke the size of entire mountain ranges? And from the trail behind the Kyuubi, it's being implied that he's 'running at Hashirama' over the distance of a long ridge of mountains, so he's going at hundreds of miles per hour here? Also they're shouting at each other and communicating despite the scale showing them to be at least a few miles away from each other.
>>290756032Naruto is not that serious my guy.
>>290756167It's a silly children comic book, but something like a senju kannon is like basic general knowledge
>>290756138Another quirk of Kishi having never seen a mountain in real life apparently is that if you compare the scale of Hashirama on the head of his summon, which is seemingly larger than mount everest, Hashirama himself is the size of a literal skyscraper in some of these perspectives.
>>290756202You realize that saying>NinjasIs just general shitposting in Naruto threads, right?You think i don't know about japanese folklore after seeing so many people talk about it in the past few years when it comes to Naruto?
>>290743932what the fuck is sage wood?like did he gain a contract with a forest spirit to learn sage shit and summon kuchiyose wood gates?
>>290748339Faggot
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282986493/#282986493
>>290756257Don't forget, Madara is roughly the size of the Kyuubi's head, so in the wide shot where the Kyuubi is as tall as from the base to the peak of the mountain range, Madara is also large enough that his body would be visible against the side of the mountain from miles away, at the very least he's 50-100 feet tall from these perspective drawings.
>>290756327I could also be wrong and you could also just be joking (neither can be proven anyway so whatever) but I'm not too sure, Naruto attracts the lowest common denominator, someone would definitely make that kind of post unironically at some point.
Discussion actually spiked up in these threads because shit is actually happening. It's incredible how fucking slow and tideous the allied nations vs Obito section was.
>>290743921>YOU ARE MY FRIENDI get it! It's another parallel isn't it?
>>290744069Gohan-looking retard
>>290749523blooming onion
>>290757526Lmao, I thought his design looked familiar
>>290716690team guy is literally the most potential team ever
>>290755484Clearly, the god of shinobi is simply placating his predecessors, allowing them to think they are far stronger than him.
>>290743842>Madara invents the rasenshuriken
>>290752009a lot of them are probably deadthat's one of the few plausible about this relatively short timeline being so borked and somehow unknown to most of the people living at the timemost if not all the witnesses or withholders of information are dead from their lifestyle/careers
>>290747657if your gunplug was made of magic fire that took whatever shape you wanted included reopening the gunhole, yeah, it's like plugging the gun you halfwit
>>290752721I was talking of the past few chapters. The whole war arc will take a long ass list lol
>>290753599>>290759330
>>290743867what, uh...what did he pact with to summon this?
>>290755306hard to regret doing something you didn't do heyoooooo!
>>290717312The true correct answer is: Rock Lee + SakuraTheir child would be the ultimate Taijutsu prodigy to such an insane degree that nothing would really even come close to it anymore.
>>290743749holy shit this is so cool i hope naruto and sasuke do this against tobito
>>290748732that would have the danger of making your background plot of have room for subtleties and nuance, you have to delineate the protagonist as the cosmically, divinely appropriate choice like binding the avatar to a spirit of light and goodness so there's no chance any of them have ill intent ever
>>290743960you could harvest all the wood in that forest they're bordering and not attain enough wood for ten of those stupid fucking arms
>>290743842huh??? just fucking blast the bomb what is this stupid shit
>>290744069>and that was how i met uchiha madara>in the time i know him, he was a rival, an enemy, a compatriot, a comrade, an enemy again, a traitor and my ideological opposite>and he was a good friend
>>290743867is 5 the limit? i thought it was 3
>>29074799770% tree
>>290716690thx
>>290758513>>290755484He had that one speed feat in the war where he just blatantly outspeed Tobirama and Minato so 3rd maybe is just dicking around
>>290719518His Chakra in the seal told him
>>290744669Would explain self healing abilities.
>>290749523It's called "veritable" for a reason possibly a bad translation.
>>290743842I don't even. It's so retarded but it works somehow.
>>290763504She is a woman, so she is only cute. Her cuteness causes you to imagine all sorts of personality and beneficent traits that do not truly exist. And thus the human race is perpetuated. If you're lucky she won't get fat too young or murder your children.
>>290763504YES MY QUEEN
>>290761037Sakon and Ukon did 1, Orochimaru did 3, and Hashirama did 5.
>>290743960People talk about too much Itachi wank but not enough about how bs Hashirama is. He is literally the force of nature in human form.
>>290763826>Hashirama is equivalent to 5 Twins/1,5x Orochimaru
>>290763504look at those eyes... this (cute) monster has no soul
at some point after the 4 hokages arrive, it feels like Kishi was just making up moves for the CC2 Naruto Storm game
>>290764425The thing about a woman, it's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes. When it comes at you it doesn't seem to be livin'... until she bitches at you, and those black eyes roll over white.
Shouldn't Edo Hiruzen technically be as strong as Prime Hiruzen, since his reanimation should have solved all his problems regarding his age?
Reminder that Hiruzen was brought back old
>>290764613I strongly feel that way about the chapter when the Konoha kids each start fighting the 10 tails monstere individually (useless spoiler I know)
Y'know, people try to excuse Madara and Hashirama being demigods by saying "it's because they grew up during war, they were constantly fighting", but that doesn't really hold up when you consider the sanin took part in 2 world wars and Kakashi was a team leader when he was like 12.
>>290764856Their blood was more pure, they were closer to the source of unholy might. I know, I know, well what about everyone else of their generation? Well, they were the best of the best, that's why the stories are about them and they founded mighty Konoha.
>>290765140not gay but I'd pound haku (no homo)
>>290743772It's silly but I like Hashirama's optimism.
>>290764856>Y'know, people try to excuse Madara and Hashirama being demigods by saying "it's because they grew up during war, they were constantly fighting"I have never read anyone say this.
>>290764027I bet Orochimaru could pull off 5 now that he has Hashirama Cells™
>>290765140Everyone is saying this, many times a day.
>>290743842>>290743867>OK LISTEN UP SASUKE>FIRST THE KYUUBI MADE A BIJU BOMB>AND THEN MADARA PUT HIS SUSANOO SWORD IN IT>AND THEN HE BROKE OFF THE SWORD WITH THE BLADE INSIDE THE BIJU BOMB>AND THEN HE THREW THE BOMB AT ME WHILE IT WAS SPINNING LIKE A SHURIKEN >AND THEN I SUMMONED 5 RASHOMON GATES TO BLOCK IT>ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION????? THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT STUFF FOR WHAT A VILLAGE IS
funnycomfy!
>>290766977digits don't lie!
>>290766591RAIHINA!
>>290764856I don't mind Hashirama or Madara being these OP gods of shinobi. But letting Madara control nine tails was overkill. So is susanoo and 1000 arms statue. This should've been a bit more grounded
>>290748311>summons merchant Jiraiya has more physicality
>>290766591Fucking massive, just the way they should be.
>>290768795Raikage....
>>290739241It does feel like Kishi always puts special care on drawing her.
>>290743960I love Kanon characters. Sengoku Youko did it very well.
>>290747367I'm pretty sure sakon is american.
>>290747367Did you forget to take your meds? Chile isn't a place in the Naruto universe.
>>290745551Why are you like this OPink
The tumbleweeds have been really bad lately
>>290745551That's too much canned fruit for one girl
tumbleweeds
>>290743983Why doesn't Madara just set that thing on fire?
>>290770459That would be unfair.
naruto-coon lets have sex in front of nejis gravestone today, its what hed want
>>290770617Naruto would probably hit Hinata with a rasengan if she tried to rape him.
>>290769890Yep Yep. Look how bad they've gotten >>290769679
>>290770617holy shitit's the girl from fortnite and boruto's dad
>>290770676Naruto's first kill
If Naruto tried to do anything with Sasuke after Itachi managed brain wash him, would that be considered rape?
>>290770818>>290770617L, ratio, raikage, anyway. piss off
>>290770914put a rat in those clothes and you're on to something
What's the name of the rope around sasuke's waist?
>>290751792>>290756138>>290756257>>290756435Canonically the Naruto planet is incredibly tiny, from the scale of the sealing shot near the end, Konohagakure likely stretches around 1/4 of the entire planet, and the valley of the end lake is the equivalent of their atlantic ocean, the beginning of the war where the army manually runs across all 4 nations in one day scales the planet pretty badly, even if we assume the ninjas are running at 100mph (???) that still makes the entire Naruto planet slightly smaller than the United States, it's more like they all live on a meteorite or something.
>>290770459It's ninja wood
>These are the facts for life>Hanabi will forever be my wife>And no matter what he might say>Shartsuke's got no chance, no way
>>290771119We don't even have the official map. Maybe it's just one of many inhabited continents
>>290771119>>290771251So Naruto is like those small planets from spore. Can't wait until they start exploring galaxy in saruto, why not
Naruto!!! … huh Mom !!!!?????!!???? ….. ayyyyyyyyy
>>290771476Sakura's mother doesn't look like that
>>290771497Its her genin version oc genius
>>290771525OK, ladygt
Saigo no Hanabump no Jutsu!
>>290771293>Introduce Otsutsuki as alien parasites who consume planets>Which implies there must be multiple planets with life throught the universe>All the conflict happens within Konoha and Suna anywayVery bold of Ikemoto to make Naruto's unexplored world into an unexplored universe.
>>290771640I'll raugh if saruto is going to be drawn by ikemoto's assist. If he has one. They want the franchise to be Dragon Ball so bad
>>290771688*assistant
Black. Pink. Perfect combo.
>>290771640smart japenis kishimoto added waifus, love triangles and yaoi baiting so average narutard would be busy discussing another sakura vs hinata shipp war instead of paying attention to happening bullshit around them
>>290772505actually, no, that was his editor's idea. But that why squid failed, kishi is a shit writer, good artist
