Act 44: Dream 6: New Soldiers Dream
39, 40, 41, 42, 43 >>290595635
>>290719844Last week right?
>>290720342We have 3 more volumes left.
And that's it. They grow up so fast. Are you strong enough?
>>290719868from right to left, bottom to top, in alternating sequence: sex, rape, rape, sex, pass, kill, rape, sex, pass, rape.
Why is Ami so useless?
i love her
>>290709940Educate yourselfhttps://www.venusinfurbroadway.com/info/yuri-eigyo/
>>290719969>>290720155See? They’re all wearing wedding rings, even Setsuna who’s SUPPOSED to be in love with Endymion. Literally all the Senshi are yuribaited in some way in the manga.>>290720197>Haruka missing and longing for Usagi while Michiru gets jealous and goes to claim her (wo)manYuritroon bait love triangle.
>>290721378This is talking about friendship instances that the author misinterprets as being for yurifags>>290721596Larper, it's said their rings are there to represent their promise to raise Hotaru, also yuribait isn't real
>>290721676>This is talking about friendship instances that the author misinterprets as being for yurifagsYeah I'm sure you know better than someone actually in the industry
>>290721676>Larper, it's said their rings are there to represent their promise to raise HotaruWhy are they all kissing their rings that they’re wearing on their wedding fingers then?
>>290721927That blog author isn't in the industry.>>290721983Why do the mew mews kiss their pendants when they transform? It's just for style, fuck off
>>290722021She's literally a voice actress who graduated from Nichinare and everything she writes is about the seiyuu industry. She didn't come up with the phrase 百合営業. She's writing about an existing phenomenon.
>>290721239I actually really like her. She's cool.
>>290722160I really doubt that bro because most of what she says is objectively wrong. Nobody man likes a woman who doesn't want him
>>290722201>No man likes a woman who doesn't want himBeta incel herbivore otaku cucks do, and that’s exactly who the yuri genre is for. Naoko even said in an interview she designed the Senshi to specifically appeal to that audience.
>>290722245No, she said she designed them to be dominant women.Femdom is completely different from cuckoldry. The polar opposite in fact. The dominant woman having the deepest love for the man is an integral part of femdom.No yuri work was ever popular because women who don't like men aren't popular. Just like woke shit in games and series in the west, this shit is pushed by the ruling class, not the people.
>>290722201Sure, you can believe whatever you want. It doesn't matter what evidence you're shown if you'll just dismiss anything that doesn't support your worldview. The fact of the matter is, Japanese men who are idol fans are the ones who came up with and talk about business yuri. There's literally a radio show by two female seiyuus that has a business yuri segment.https://www.weblio.jp/content/%E4%B8%AD%E5%B3%B6%E7%94%B1%E8%B2%B4%E3%83%BB%E6%AD%A6%E7%94%B0%E7%BE%85%E6%A2%A8%E6%B2%99%E5%A4%9A%E8%83%A1%E3%81%AE%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8F%E3%81%84%E3%81%84%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B8%E3%82%AAHow are you going to cope out of this one?
>>290722396Lesbian porn is more popular than femdom. If anything is pushed by the ruling class, it's femdom.
>>290722619They shouldn't have listened to the small minority of cucked otaku who want this shit then.>>290722644Lesbian porn is only popular among terminally porn addicted tech illiterate retards.Femdom outright does not exist in western porn. Feminist bullshit is the antithesis of femdom.
>>290722727Before you said it doesn't happen at all. Now you're saying okay it does happen but it's only pandering to a small minority. Wonderful moving of the goalposts. If I showed you the prevalence of yuri shipping in anime fanart and the like to show that it's not an insignificant amount of otaku, I'm sure you'll have some other cope to move the goalpost again. That's how it works because you don't know shit about the industry and if you see anything that doesn't align with your beliefs, you'll just make something up to explain it away post hoc.>>290722727>Femdom outright does not exist in western porn. Feminist bullshit is the antithesis of femdom.Both of these statements are outrageously wrong. Are you telling me you're literally unaware of any western femdom porn or is this some no true scotsman fallacy where you don't consider it "real" femdom? And you're also unaware of how much feminist writing and articles promote femdom and how femdom is promoted in the media with safe "dommy mommies" and girlbosses or whatever while liking submissive females is being pushed as "toxic masculinity" or "predatory". Of course they would love this idea. It's putting women in power and subverting the proper order of dominant men and submissive women. But it's just for virtue signaling. Women, if they're honest, aren't into it. They like dominant guys.
>>290721596Apologies if someone already asked you this (actually I don't really care), but if what you say about Takeuchi vs Ikuhara/manga vs anime Sailor Moon and their respective intended audience is true, why did Ikuhara keep Haruka and Michiru as a couple?
>>290723706>why did Ikuhara keep Haruka and Michiru as a couple?Not that schizo but he actually didn't in S. In the anime they only get together in the Super S special, movie and in the Stars season.
>>290720438Oh right, that was going on.
>>290723612Everything happens on a minor scale, I never denied that. You're saying it happens on a major scale.Yuri shipping isn't prevalent at all actually, it's a small circle of people doing it, and btw a lot of them are women.>And you're also unaware of how much feminist writing and articles promote femdom They don't. They promote male hate and role reversal shit. Because that's what feminism is. And is not at all what femdom is.
>>290719915Ear ring does NOT guarantee it's a woman
>>290722727>He thinks femdom is automatically feminist If anything it’s the opposite and a Dominant rapechad is what’s considered to be more feminist because that’s what women actually want while femdom shit is for lazy herbivores who expect to be catered to without putting in the work to actually attract a woman so the woman does all the work and takes control instead. No normal woman wants to be a Mommy to a guy, that’s a completely male fantasy.
>>290720821Thank you for the dump.I don't think so, I sprained my back moving a cupboard
>>290724377...what? Are you misfiring or what? But wait, you're the same guy. Are you like, attempting to argue back against yourself but replying to me instead?I'm beginning to seriously wonder if you're even human and not an AI model.Anyway, feminism isn't for women. The rest of your post is right and pretty much what I've been saying the whole time.
>>290720327Comically small torso
>>290720821Thanks OPMan, I don't understand the rules of any of this
>>290723706>but if what you say about Takeuchi vs Ikuhara/manga vs anime Sailor Moon and their respective intended audience is true, why did Ikuhara keep Haruka and Michiru as a couple?Actually Naoko didn’t even want the HaruMichi ship outside of Michiru merely being a second choice placeholder for Haruka, she was initially gunning for Haruka/Usagi but Ikuhara preferred HaruMichi and completely erased Haruka being in love with Usagi in the anime which Naoko was pissed about. They even engaged in an all out shipping war using the Image Songs as their battleground where Naoko originally wrote Haruka’s Image Song to reflect her feelings for Usagi but Ikuhara changed it to be about Michiru instead and poor Megumi Ogata was caught in the middle and confused and didn’t know which lyrics to ultimately follow. The Naoko vs Ikuhara lore goes DEEP and I have even more stories from where that came from.As for why Ikuhara shipped HaruMichi despite making the anime more female friendly than the manga? Well he’s always been an omnivore rather than a pure fudanshi or himedanshi, but even then the HaruMichi ship reflects a more female gaze, feminist version of yuri compared to Naoko’s Haruka/Usagi which is a pure yuritroon male gaze ship the likes that you’d see in Madoka or Nanoha (Usagi here is the stand in for the pure & innocent weak and naive hyper-submissive “bottom” like Madoka and Nanoha themselves).
>>290724093>Everything happens on a minor scale, I never denied thatYes you did.>>290708966>I am: zero.>Yuri shipping isn't prevalent at all actually, it's a small circle of people doing itWhat's your proof of it? There are massive franchises that are filled with yuri shipping in their fanbases.>They promote male hate and role reversal shit. Because that's what feminism is. And is not at all what femdom is.Oh so you're going the no true Scotsman route.
>>290724879>I have even more stories from where that came fromBut do you have any source to back them up?
>>290725057>What's your proof of it?It's always the same artists drawing it.>There are massive franchises that are filled with yuri shipping in their fanbasesLoud minority. Do you think furries are a prevalent portion of the population? Because the biggest media franchise of all time, Pokemon, is filled with furry shit in its fanbase.>Oh so you're going the no true Scotsman route?I said from the get go that femdom involves the woman loving the man.
>>290724879>yuritranny tries to project his fantasies on Madoka (albeit under falseflag)>fails to even get Madoka's character rightEvery single time
>>290724377Pretty sure this was intended for me but I already said it isn't what women want and that they like dominant males. But feminism isn't about what women actually want. These submissive women who are honest about their desires get attacked by feminists for "internalized misogyny".
>>290724447>...what? Are you misfiring or what? But wait, you're the same guy. Are you like, attempting to argue back against yourself but replying to me instead? I'm beginning to seriously wonder if you're even human and not an AI model.I’m the fujo retard, and I can tell you right now that as a woman most women really want dominant rapechads and femdom is a male fantasy rather than feminist.>>290725162>yuritranny tries to project his fantasies on Madoka (albeit under falseflag)Prove that I’m a falseflag, you can’t. I despise yuritroons just as much as you except I’m not in denial when an anime or manga is actively trying to court them. You’ve already outed yourself as a tourist for thinking yuri in anime, for a Japanese audience, is some sort of feminist statement (except when it’s by Ikuhara) and not just male gaze otaku fanservice meant to cater to the purityfags who don’t want their waifus defiled by other men.So if you really want to prove you’re not some sort of newfag election tourist can you explain why Naoko’s next planned manga series PQ Angels was an explicitly yuritroon work? Were you even aware of its existence? I’ll be waiting…
>>290725343>most women really want dominant rapechadsI know>femdom is a male fantasy rather than feministThat's what I've been saying since the beginning retard.You're the one who said feminists were pushing femdom.
>>290725343>Prove that I’m a falseflagA non falseflagging antiyurifag wouldn't consider Madoka to be yuri>election touristkek you're really bad at false flagging.
>>290725343>>290725405>>290725429Hey can you guys pause for like an hour? I want to give my opinion on the manga but I don't want it lost in a sea of nonsense
>>290725124>It's always the same artists drawing it.Prove it>Loud minority. Do you think furries are a prevalent portion of the population? Because the biggest media franchise of all time, Pokemon, is filled with furry shit in its fanbase.You're comparing an unintended subgroup of the fanbase outside of the target audience compared to something where yuri is at the core of the fanbase like Love Live. You're also comparing a dedicated fandom/subculture that one builds their identity on (of which there are millions so it's not so insignificant) to some girl-on-girl action for men to casually enjoy as just one of many fetish/form of female sexualization they may like. This comparison fails on so many levels.>I said from the get go that femdom involves the woman loving the man.Yes, no true Scotsman fallacy. I'm sure you're also going to do a no true Scotsman on what "loving" means to discount all the western femdom porn.
>>290725405>You're the one who said feminists were pushing femdom.No that wasn’t me, you got me confused with the other antiyurifag who’s so antiyuri he’s gone completely schizo and tries to deny reality.>>290725429Only an election tourist newfag would automatically equate yuri fanservice intended for the otaku male gaze with Western Culture War shit, I’m still waiting to hear from you why Naoko’s next work, PQ Angels was about female Alien Cockroaches having to kiss each other in order to transform into Magical Girls if Naoko WASN’T trying to court the yuritroon audience all along. Still waiting to hear your explanation for that…>>290725463>Hey can you guys pause for like an hour? I want to give my opinion on the manga but I don't want it lost in a sea of nonsenseSo post it. Don’t let us stop you, it’ll be seen I assure you, and I’ll even quote your post myself to boost it if you’re still scared of it getting lost.
>>290721239she's got best planet, after all.
I'll be honest, I think this manga sucks. It all just feels so samey. I'm only sticking around because this is the legendary Sailor Moon, it's a cornerstone of anime. But really? THIS is the seminal work that so many people love? I don't want to get too into an "old good new bad" debate, but if this aired today, nobody would watch it
>>290720821Now she's dying No.Thanks as always OP!
>>290720821Thanks, anonsito.
>>290720821Thank you for posting!
There's a sailor moon thread?There's a sailor moon storytime???Quick, I come from the future, I just finished reading stars (and watching cosmos) today, you need to know about itIT'S REALLY, REALLY--
>>290730630this is all actually an elaborate prank to fool you.
member when Mixx for some reason called Haruka "Alex Haruka" in their SuperS/Dream translation and Hotaru "Jenny"? What were they thinking?
Watching the second season and I want to curb stomp the twins so badly.
>>290731038Mixx got all the way to SuperS? I didn't even know they got to R before becoming TokyoPop and no longer caring about anything
>>290733502Their translations went all the way to Stars but had some really silly errors>Ptilol= Petite Roll>Sailor Chuu= Sailor Chew>Sailor Tin Nyanko= Sailor Teien, Sailor Teien Nyakno>Sailor Lead Crow= Sailor Red Crow
>>290725991Look up the artist name tags, they’re public.>You're comparing an unintended subgroup of the fanbase outside of the target audience compared to…the exact same thing. That is literally what yuritards are.No, Love Live wasn’t made for yuritards either, otherwise it would have flopped like all the stuff that was.>I'm sure you're also going to do a no true Scotsman on what "loving" means to discount all the western femdom pornIt’s not no true Scotsman to say that you don’t love someone if you’re just using them and you’re looking down on them.>>290726451>doubles down on using the same lingo as yuritardskek
>>290720112Spooky.
>>290720262RE-ENTER
>>290720821Thanks OP.>Are you strong enough?No.
>>290720180Is this referring to the Amazoness Quartet/Chibiusa's future Sailor team? Guess so because she's talking about "minor" planets.If so, interesting, didn't notice that the first time around.>>290720262So cool>>290720486Now he can be a human and cheat on Luna.>>290720596>Venus gets to look good for a moment only for all of them to immediately lose>>290720821Thanks, OP. I kinda doubt it.
>>290723998>Not that schizo but he actually didn't in SIt was still enough to cause the infamous debacle of the English dub being so scared of showing lesbians to Americans that it made the laughably baffling decision to make them cousins.
>>290727894>THIS is the seminal work that so many people love?Most people who love it are fans because of the anime, not the manga.>if this aired today, nobody would watch itProbably true for a lot of things when so many shows air in a season and franchises seem to have less staying-power today. Or at least, that's what it feels like.
Are people bother by all the jobbing that happens in Sailor Moon?
>>290737080That was probably because of the manga
>>290737283I found the chapters of the inner senshi powering up to be kind of pointless since we all know at the end of the day they'll job without contributing a single thing and Moon is just going to come in and heart attack everything.
>>290734876>Look up the artist name tags, they’re public.And there are a bunch of artists who have drawn yuri. Some of them draw it alongside other things, some only focus on a few series, and that expands the number even more over the totality of yuri fanart.>…the exact same thing. That is literally what yuritards are.You're comparing people whose identity include costumes, specialized conventions for the interest, and role playing to men who see a scene of girls kissing and go, "Oh that's hot.">No, Love Live wasn’t made for yuritards either, otherwise it would have flopped like all the stuff that was.How expected. Making baseless claims to define away what doesn't support your beliefs when you've already shown you don't know shit about the industry. Not surprising coming from the one who claimed business yuri doesn't exist then when shown evidence otherwise, looked for any reason to flatly reject it without proof. And you think you have authority to decide what was and wasn't made for yuri pandering. I bet next you'll claim Yuru Yuri isn't for yurifags.>It’s not no true Scotsman to say that you don’t love someone if you’re just using them and you’re looking down on them.The only requirement for femdom is for the female to be the dominant one. You realize if you're narrowing the definition of femdom to fit your claims, it'll make the amount of femdom out there far lower than the amount of yuri? Think about if you applied this standard the other way. Nobody questions if rape/hate sex, ryona, and other kinds of violence and degradation on women in porn is male domination.
Now there's a plot twist. The fujoschizo isn't the most delusional schizo in these threads.
>>290720342Two to three, actually.
>>290721596Okay, I'm curious, what mahou shoujo manga do you like?
>>290720486Minako most certainly would have treated him better if he'd been in this form the entire time long.
Sailor Moon voice recording footage. Maybe some people will find this interesting.https://files.catbox.moe/shtvo4.mp4
>>290737572I know that fujoschizo worships Cardcaptor Sakura, which is ironic since it also brought a lot of male fans into mahou shoujo.
>>290737129>Most people who love it are fans because of the anime, not the manga.Is the anime substantially different
>>290737727Huh... With all her complaints about pedophilia and such, I thought that Rika and Terada-sensei would turn her off of it.
>>290737435>And there are a bunch of artists who have drawn yuriStill a minority among the overall pool of artists.>You're comparing people whose identity include costumes, specialized conventions for the interest, and role playing to men who see a scene of girls kissing and go, "Oh that's hot."You’re moving goalposts to something completely unrelated since we’re talking about fandom presence. Also, it’s funny because most modern yurifags fall into the description you gave for furries.>Wall of nothingokLove Live still wasn’t made for yuritards>The only requirement for femdom is for the female to be the dominant oneShe also has to have a female role. Feminists don’t believe in gender roles and want women to act like men.>it'll make the amount of femdom out there far lower than the amount of yuri?Only in the west. Japan loves real femdom
>>290737727He also likes Utena despite claiming to hate yuri. No idea how that works with the Utena movie existing, and he always dodges the question.
>>290720238Pluto is so fucking hot
>>290737666based trips as always, i love watching behind the scenes footage
>>290737463We now have the fujoschizo (pro-feminism, I think, anti-femdom and yuri), the other guy (pro-femdom, anti-feminism and yuri), and another one (anti-femdom, feminism, and, presumably, yuri).The positions not yet occupied are: 1. Pro-yuri, feminism, and femdom. 2. Pro-yuri, anti-feminism and femdom. 3. Pro-yuri and feminism, anti-femdom. 4. Pro-yuri and femdom, anti-feminism. 5. Pro-feminism and femdom, anti-yuri.
>>290737463>>290738337I know I shouldn't be surprised that such an old and famous manga has schizos, but I'm a little surprised they care so much about a manga I just think isn't that good
>>290738145>Still a minority among the overall pool of artists.Sure but not a small one. Bigger than femdom artists.>You’re moving goalposts to something completely unrelated since we’re talking about fandom presence.Okay, the furry presence in pokemon is still small compared to the target audience. You missed the whole point that this isn't a valid comparison since most people who find girl on girl action hot don't care to go for that level of dedication.>it’s funny because most modern yurifags fall into the description you gave for furriesThey go to dedicated conventions, have costumes, and roleplay?>Love Live still wasn’t made for yuritardsAh yes, because the guy who went>Business yuri doesn't exist>The article writer doesn't know what she's talking about. She's not in the industry>Oh she is? Well that can't be true because uh... it just can't!>An example of it being done while literally referring to it by name? Well it's a mistake anyway.said so. He definitely knows what he's talking about. Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious.>She also has to have a female roleThat disqualifies femdom. The proper gender roles are a dominant man and a submissive woman.>Only in the west. Japan loves real femdomYour no true scotsman logic can be applied to anything.>There is no real yuri in the west. Japan loves real yuri.
>>290738162Probably the same excuse for the Sailor Moon anime keeping Haruka and Michiru as a couple. It's feminist yuri, not icky male gaze yuri so it's okay or something like that.
>>290738337>Pro-yuri and femdom, anti-feminismthat sounds like a challenge, I'll take it.
>>290724879I refuse to believe a single word you say.
>>290737666there's always some whiplash from seeing these sort of voice come from an actual human.
>>290738611>Sure but not a small oneYes>Bigger than femdom artistsNo>the furry presence in pokemon is still small compared to the target audienceSmall but loud. Yuritards are the same.>They go to dedicated conventions, have costumes, and roleplay?Literally yesThe lgbt movement is nothing but that, and they're most yurifags nowadays>He definitely knows what he's talking aboutMore than you>That disqualifies femdom. The proper gender roles are a dominant man and a submissive womanI get what you mean but this isn't necessarily true, a woman can take the cock dominantly. In any case it should always be conventionally enjoyable for both parties which feminist shit isn't>>There is no real yuri in the west. Japan loves real yuri.That may be true as well, most yuri stuff is for the male gaze as opposed to western feminist shit, but yuri is less popular in Japan than femdom is, and even Naoko knows thatIt's a niche among men and the vast majority of its modern audience are woketards
>>290737129>Most people who love it are fans because of the anime, not the manga.I guess I should elaborate on what I don't like. This manga needs to slow down. It's all just going WAY too fast. I just feel like I don't understand the internal logic of anything and don't really know any of the characters. Mainly, I think the problem is how almost every chapter ends with them killing some villain. That forces the chapters to be pretty formulaic. A bit of SOL at the start (pin this), then character the chapter is about has some personal dilemma, then the enemy's chapterly scheme is introduced and the sailors rush over to fight, then there is a moment of mortal peril as the central character of the chapter isn't strong enough, then someone says "have you tried believing in yourself harder?", then the character has the strength to blast the chapter's villain, then it ends. My problem is that because in each chapter the individual stakes are so small, the time taken away from character development leaves little room to really get to know the characters or see them interact much. The starting SOL bits are like 15-20% of the chapter at best. Then, the intercession of the plot takes over the rest of the chapter. I LOVED the idea of Sailor Venus struggling with her position as leader despite her insecurities. And this was going well because it was stretched out over 2 chapters, meaning the character interactions part was much longer. But then the second chapter started starts with FORTY TWO of fifty eight pages being a totally unrelated flashback. It killed all the momentum and left the resolution to her problems being "have you tried REALLY believing in yourself?" Just ridiculous. Most chapters have that exact same finale, just with a much shorter (and worse) buildup due to being only in one chapter. 1/2
Speaking of the flashback, I don't understand the internal logic of the world. Like, I understand what's going on with Sailor Saturn, but not really the why. It just feels like events happen one after the other without any explanation or without being allowed to sit with the reader. I've said it before, but what are the Moon Spiral Heart Attack and Moon Whatever Halation? Like, what do they do? Are the electrical energy? Thermal energy? Concussive force? Because it seems to me that the effects of the attack are "whatever is needed in the present moment". I really think the manga needs to stop ending every chapter on killing an enemy. If they took more time to just spread things out and give us time with each character, I'd simply care a lot more. The girls don't really have much personality, and most of what they do have was just told to us. Venus is the only Sailor I really care about, and that's just because she has her own manga. Unless the anime really was wholly different, I just don't get why Sailor Moon was so popular. 2/2
>>290741114>>290741145couldn't agree more. thing is sailor V manga was also very formulaic but I never got tired of it. I loved to see v-chan say her stupid catchphrase while defeating the villain of the week, it was fun. sailor moon somehow lost the sauce.
>>290742155I think it helped that Sailor V had shorter chapters. The Sailor Moon chapters certainly feel like 50+ pages
>>290738999Blessed by trips!
>>290742155So it goes.
>>290742155Sailor V also is a more fun character to read and has a stronger supporting cast. Never seen the anime, but it feels like the manga was practically made as a supplement to the anime. Like how Dragon Ball Super was with its anime if I had to compare it. So it basically expects you are watching the anime for the "real" version. Even still, I doubt the anime is much better so I'm also puzzled on how it got so popular. Maybe because I'm not a 10 year old girl.
>>290747908I think there might also be a bit of Seinfeld effect at play
>>290739476>Small but loud. Yuritards are the same.Funny. I can say the same about femdomfags.>The lgbt movement is nothing but that, and they're most yurifags nowadaysLGBT has nothing to do with "real" yuri. See, I can do it too. And there's probably more truth to that since they keep complaining about how it's female objectification and queerbaiting or whatever.>More than youI'm the guy who made you change your position multiple times. I clearly know more than you but I already know you can't accept that.>I get what you mean but this isn't necessarily true, a woman can take the cock dominantlyWrong. A woman being dominant over a man goes against established gender roles.>In any case it should always be conventionally enjoyable for both partiesNobody uses that as a requirement to call something maledom.>yuri is less popular in Japan than femdom is, and even Naoko knows thatFunny you mention Naoko since she's an example of a woman who makes typical man-hating feminist comments and talked about how weak and submissive boys are but her works don't reflect that at all no matter how she claims otherwise. The way she wrote Usagi and Mamoru is a standard shoujo romance, like she has to be honest about her desires in her manga.And let's examine your claim. How popular was Mato Seihei compared to Mahoako? They aired in the same season. Honestly, how many anime made for femdomfags even are there?>It's a niche among menOnly a very small portion of men are into femdom and virtually no women. To normal people, it's off putting. Heterosexual men get the same or even higher levels of arousal from watching female-female intercourse compared to male-female intercourse.https://pzacad.pitzer.edu/~dmoore/psych199/2007_chivers-et-al_jpsp.pdf
>>290727894>>290737129>>290737904>Most people who love it are fans because of the anime, not the manga.There may be some truth to that, but the manga is still one of the highest selling shoujo and manga in general so it doesn't explain it away.
>>290738651Funny because he’s arguing against yuri being feminist in this thread.This proves he’s a troll/falseflag btw, just call yuri wokeshit and he’ll immediately revert back to the typical yuritard "duurrrr pol election tourist" shit (despite constantly calling yurifags troons himself)
>>290747908>I doubt the anime is much betterI have heard anons ITT say the anime has a lot more "filler" which I assume means SOL episodes of the girls not really doing much. Paradoxically, I think that would actually HELP the manga.
>>290748577>Funny. I can say the same about femdomfagsMaybe, but not as small and not as loud. And the popularity of characters like Kurumi Tokisaki casts doubts on your statement. Naoko also disagrees with you, as you know.>LGBT has nothing to do with "real" yuriBut it has everything to do with the majority of its modern fans.>I'm the guy who made you change your position multiple timeswhere>A woman being dominant over a man goes against established gender rolesAgain, not necessarily. If she’s taking dick she’s fulfilling her role.>wall of off topic shitDon’t care>MahoakoYeah, I’m sure femdomfags didn’t like that one>Heterosexual men get the same or even higher levels of arousal from watching female-female intercourse compared to male-female intercourseYou’re talking about cucks specifically, an extremely small subset of men.
>>290741114Yeah, I have to agree. I loved the anime when I was a kid, but haven't watched it in years. I remember being kind of bored by the monster of the week dragged out style even as a kid, but now that I'm reading the manga I miss it. There was tons of SoL and character development, which really let you get to know the characters. I remember there still was the problem of the regular Sailors kind of jobbing and Moon finishing everything, which I had hoped the manga would fix but no such luck. There's probably the bones of a really good story in there, but no format can get to it, especially not now that everything is one-and-done, go onto the next thing, quick quick quick gotta binge the next series right away
>>290719844Act 45: Dream 7: Mirror Dream
>>290750684So dramatic
>>290736743Yep, the asteroids being minor planets hints at that, and the four of them getting so much time as a group instead of attacking individually like the previous villains seems to support that. Hence why the animal trio exists to do that instead.I do like that this arc is more about Chibiusa coming into her own identity and strength, especially since she and everyone else openly notices how OP Usagi is and feel lost over it.
>>290750703Nice armpits
>>290751139>>290751157>tag: age regression
>>290751139>be woman>fantasise about being statutorily rapedwhy are they like this
>>290751063>a black holeWould you say it's super massive?
And that's it. Things aren't looking good.How are your lungs?
>>290751240>why are they like thisI mean, think about it. Women are much smaller and weaker than men on average. Imagine a big strong man taking you in his arms, his large body totally enveloping yours. You want it but you're too embarrassed to say anything. Women are supposed to be pure and innocent, so maybe if you say something he'll think your gross. But he confidently starts using his big hands to touch your body, making you feel good. He's so strong there's nothing you can do as he takes your body in his.Uh, no homo or anything. Just saying that I get it
>>290751340Thanks for the dump.I live in the city, they're probably comparable to those of a smoker
>>290751340Thanks OP>How are your lungs?Probably not great, I've had a frog in my throat for months now, though I think it's just allergies
>>290748937>Funny because he’s arguing against yuri being feminist in this thread.She's just doing what you do, defining away everything that's inconvenient as "that doesn't count">the typical yuritard "duurrrr pol election tourist" shit (despite constantly calling yurifags troons himself)Are you saying only yurifags say election tourist or she's an election tourist herself who's trying and failing to blend in? The latter is true. She's an obvious tourist but thinks she isn't because she's a leftist or something. The false flag hypothesis doesn't hold up. If that's the case there's no reason to make a divide between the anime and the manga. Just attack both as yuri pandering.
>>290751340Things never look good with this mangaI don't smoke, so I hope okThanks as always OP!
>>290751240Actually they both got aged down at the saamw
>>290749239>And the popularity of characters like Kurumi Tokisaki casts doubts on your statement.And there's barely any femdom fanart of Kurumi kek. There's more female sub art of her. As always for these so-called femdom characters. In fact, there's more yuri art of her.>Naoko also disagrees with you, as you know.Her work doesn't. Despite what she may say in interviews which should disqualify her from "real" femdom by your definition, she still didn't put a femdom couple but did put a lesbian couple in Sailor Moon.>whereI literally showed you and you keep ignoring it. I already know you'll just keep pretending the business yuri discussion didn't happen.>Again, not necessarily. If she’s taking dick she’s fulfilling her role.Femdom is sexual deviancy and subverting gender roles no matter how you deny it.>Yeah, I’m sure femdomfags didn’t like that oneNo male characters. It wasn't for them. But wait, you are one. Are you telling me you enjoyed an anime that was nothing but lesbian rape?>You’re talking about cucks specifically, an extremely small subset of men.I'm talking about scientific research. You're talking about bullshit you pulled out of your ass with no support. Your problem is you think that's equal to other people's evidence.
>>290751045>This isn't the Juban i knowOh no, Chibi Usa took a wrong turn to Beika!
>>290751862>Are you saying only yurifags say election tourist yeah nigga>>290752164Most Kurumi fan content is femdom, it seems you only count it as femdom if it’s hardcore shit most femdomfags don’t even likeI agree that domination loss is also popular however >she still didn't put a femdom coupleYou mean asides from the fact that every single main female villain gave Mamoru the princess Peach treatment at least once?>I already know you'll just keep pretending the business yuri discussion didn't happenI’m not ignoring it because it didn’t happen, I’m ignoring it because it’s not relevant>Femdom is sexual deviancy and subverting gender roles no matter how you deny it.Because you keep saying it?>No male characters. It wasn't for themPlenty of shows with no male characters are made for men, the near entirety in fact. Mahoako is well known for managing to get an audience outside of yurifags despite being yuri which is how it got popular. Most of its merch is typical waifu merch, not yuri stuff, which yurifags actually complain about lol>I'm talking about scientific researchYou mean stuff shat out by people who don’t know what a woman is? Yeah thanks god I consider myself to be above themMeanwhile, yuri anime isn’t basically never popular. So much for being a common male fantasy or something.
>>290751340Thank you for posting, OP!
>>290719868I still don't like when the super chocolate hot girl Pluto turns pale in color pages.
>>290719868Why is Michiru blonde?
>>290756893To save money.You don't need to buy more paint.
>>290751340Thanks, anonsito.
>>290751340>How are your lungs?I have never smoked in my life, but I live in a big polluted city, so my lungs aren't that good.
>>290719844Thx
>>290756893Chibster's a honey blonde in that pic too. female mangaka tend to play it fast and loose with colouring.
Finished the makai tree arc. I liked when it focus on the Guardians but man I hated An and Ail. Completely unlikeable compare to the Dark Kingdom villains.
>>290752544>Are you saying only yurifags say election tourist >yeah niggaThis speaks for itself. Nothing else needs to be said about this.>it seems you only count it as femdom if it’s hardcore shit most femdomfags don’t even likeI count it as femdom if it's tagged femdom.>You mean asides from the fact that every single main female villain gave Mamoru the princess Peach treatment at least once?HAHAHAHA That's your justification? Holy shit and you say that yurifags keep claiming series that aren't theirs. The Dark Kingdom brainwashed Mamoru and used him to fight Usagi. That's not quite the Princess Peach treatment.>I’m ignoring it because it’s not relevantIt shows you don't have the self-awareness to recognize how little you know about the industry.>Because you keep saying it?Because it's true. It's literally a reversal of what the male and female bodies and minds are built for.>a bunch of copeYou admitted it. You enjoyed an anime that was nothing but lesbian porn. I accept your concession.>You mean stuff shat out by people who don’t know what a woman is?And another election tourist buzz phrase. That study was from 2007. You didn't even read it. If you had a legitimate argument, you could read the paper and explain problems with the methodology or point to other research or data with conflicting results, but all you can do is dismiss it offhand because it conflicts with your views. You are incapable of actually engaging with arguments. The only points you can make are "nuh-uh" and "it's true because I made it the fuck up." Having any sort of discussion with someone like you is meaningless.
Bumper Moon
>>290741114>>290741145>Unless the anime really was wholly different, I just don't get why Sailor Moon was so popular.The anime does alleviate your concerns of everything moving too fast and the characters not getting to interact much, and lets them just hang out instead of killing a major villain every chapter (episode) and rushing from plot point to plot point. However, this is bought at a high price, i.e. some of the most mind-numbingly repetitive monster of the week type of shit.>I've said it before, but what are the Moon Spiral Heart Attack and Moon Whatever Halation? Just beams that get progressively stronger. The sad truth seems to be, Sailor Moon kinda was a toy commercial at the end of the day. I've never verified it myself, but I heard that the anime was almost canned due to waning ratings in season 1 and what saved it was the introduction of the moon stick - which could be turned into a toy (and was).After its introduction, Sailor Moon started doing beam attacks instead of things like Moon Tiara Action - perfect for selling sticks that make beeping noises. Same for her getting a new compact every arc.I'm not sure how exactly Sailor Moon's success can be explained. I said it's mostly because of the anime, not the manga, and while >>290748720 rightfully points out the manga's success, and it's also true that Nakayoshi's circulation was never as high again as during Sailor Moon's run, I'm not sure if the anime just carried it. I somehow doubt the manga on its own would've been as much of a phenomenon, as I do share your concerns and agree with the issues you point out. I think you really should take a look at the anime to get an idea as to what people saw in it. The manga won't make you love the characters, but the anime might. Problem being, it's slower as mentioned already, and that also means slower at introducing characters, so it's some 23 episodes before all the inner senshi are introduced.
>>290766721What are you trying so hard for? I already accepted your concession. You enjoyed a yuri anime and that's okay. You don't need to be so mad about it.
>>290766842>I already accepted your concessionWords that have never ever been uttered by the winning side of an argument.
>>290750794is a cat fine too?
>>290766675Thanks for the breakdown, anon. I'll be honest and say I'm not going to watch the anime. I'm sure it's fine, but I'm also pretty sure it's like 100+ episodes, and that's just more than I'm going to do for a story I'm not interested in
>>290769811It's 200 episodes long. And yeah, even watching until all the main characters are introduced is just a bit too much to ask, just to possibly change your opinion on a series (with no guarantee).Not to try and change your mind, but maybe a random episode from the middle of a season might give you an idea how different the anime and manga are, if you're still kinda interested in that.
>>290770360I checked again and Venus appears in episode __33, holy shit.
>>290770360>>290770390I'll take your word for it that the anime is better than the manga
>>290762896I liked how the whole arc was just a sendup to the Tree of Might and Cell from DBZ.
>>290762896R was the weakest season alongside Stars
>>290770725So S & SuperS are the best?
>>290771396NTA and I'm not sure if R is really considered one of the weaker ones - even though I agree, my impression was that many people liked both of the first seasons.>SI think S or the first season are usually considered the best.>SuperS This one has many detractors.
>>290771396Alongside Classic yes.I’m just saying what I felt when I watched it, no idea if those are popular opinions or whatever and I don’t really care. SuperS especially seems to be getting a lot of undeserved hate
>>290770725R was just a better version of the first season
>>290772324The first season made more sense than RR’s time travel mechanics are completely incoherent How did Chibiusa know Usagi had the silver crystal but NOT know it was her mom even though she’s literally named after her lol? The plotline of Endymion telling Mamoru to break up with Usagi also made no sense and lead nowhere
>>290772421Usagi fully adopts the title of 'Queen Serenity' in the future, there's a good chance Chibiusa didn't even know what her mother's name was before she was born. she was always called Usagi or Small Lady in her timeline, 'Chibiusa' is what the girls take to calling her after she comes back to the past. Endymion knew that Mamoru was indecisive about wanting to be with Usagi, so was trying to take advantage of the 'distance makes the heart grow fonder' effect.
>>290772486Doesn’t really explain how Chibiusa knew Usagi would have the silver crystal (but didn’t know she was sailor moon)And clearly at that point Mamoru truly did love Usagi, the episodes right before the distances himself from her are actually very comfy romance-wise which makes that random ass plotline even more frustrating
>>290767076Yes yes, you can tell yourself you won the argument if it makes it easier to accept. It's not easy to go against a belief you hold so strongly and you've taken the first step by admitting that there's nothing wrong with enjoying an anime that was just lesbian porn for 13 episodes.
>>290772848>Yes yes, you can tell yourself you won the argument if it makes it easier to acceptThat is literally what you did.
>>290773015>no uThis doesn't work. I'm not the one who needs to reconcile the cognitive dissonance between my adamant beliefs about yuri and enjoying a yuri anime.
>>290720100>>290720112>visions of being abandoned for a stud
>>290773225You mean like Utena which has a yurislop movie?
>>290773650I haven't watched Utena but I will eventually. It's on my watchlist. I don't know why you're bringing up something completely unrelated besides the MCs having the same name.
Watched the first episode with Chibi>Sailor Moon didn't job and got to do cool shitWhat a breath of fresh air
>>290773720And you just outed yourself as a troll because you factually praised Utena multiple times on other threads.So you’re a man larping as a woman huh… sounds like tranny behavior to me!
>>290774954What a weird accusation. Take your schizo meds.
>>290774983Nigga everyone knows you lmao
>>290775085The voices in your head aren't everyone
>>290775123Everyone in this thread knows about you fujolarper
>>290772562because Pluto didn't tell her Usagi and Sailor Moon were the same person, just that Usagi Tsukino has the silver crystal. she might have assumed Chibiusa already knew, or she might not have known about Sailor Moon's civilian identity herself. or maybe she was angry Serenity made her sit in the hyperbolic time chamber for a thousand years and thought it would be funny to do a little trolling.
Ami falls for Shingo when?
>>290724364It was a simpler time.
>>290719978I forgot they were in this wack ass polyamorous relationship.
>>290719915>fastest machine there iseven in 1992 the Ferrari Testarossa was not the fastest car in the world. either the Ruf CTR or the Callaway Sledgehammer was if you consider the latter to be a production car. I believe this chapter was written in 1993 though, by which point the McLaren F1 was public knowledge and it was rated for 220 miles an hour. the Diablo was faster than the Testarossa, too.
>>290719844Act 46: Dream 8: Elysium Dream
>>290720612Do the japanese actually think the amazons were from the amazon jungle?
>>290750794>so you're a cat again
And that's it. They're fucking DEAD.Where do you keep your crystals?
>>290778341It's been over pretty much every chapter at this point Wouldn't you like to know weather boy Thanks as always OP!
>>290778341>Where do you keep your crystals?I don't know... my memory is not too good lately...
>>290778328>IMMA FIRIN MY LASER
>>290778341Fucking again?>Where do you keep your crystals?In the cupboard
>>290775772Does everyone include >>290738337 or is that "me" too? I at least have the self-awareness to know that most people don't care. Looks like I pushed too far and you got mindbroken so hard that your psychosis is in overdrive. You're clearly still not ready to come to terms with your enjoyment of a lesbian porn anime.
>>290777835I so would read a manga like that.
>>290779506That guy directly mentions you what’s your point
>>290779872Yeah, as the third guy separate from the fujoschizo. Though he didn't quite get me correct.
>>290778054>surely you can find itEasy for you to say, Helios.>>290778166>you are strong enough nowBut what about the curse?>>290778236Ah, there it is.>>290778341Thanks, OP. I forgot, I'm having some bandicoot collect them as we speak.
>>290777802He fucked BOTH of them
>>290783002And the cat?
>>290783127
>>290778341Thanks, OP.
This series has a habit of turning animals into fuckable people
>>290778341Thanks, anonsito.
So how are you all liking the manga's progression compared to the anime? The next chapters are about to get crazy.
>>290787756The chapters have felt kind of like nothingburgers lately.They spend a long time agonizing over a conflict, and then it gets resolved in a page.
>>290720223Pluto's outfits are wild
>>290720486Mina's gonna find out if Arty still has a barbed cat dick
>>290738363Sailor Moon schizos are a special breed. All that lead in the gas.
>>290762896Ayy and Lmao are much more likeable than the Shittennou, thdesu
>>290720814Mina is such a dork
>>290778341Thanks OP. Wouldn't you like to know?
>>290789058Fuck no, the generals had presentation. The aliens have no redeemable values.
>>290785480When will it turn people into fuckable animals?
>>290792084Just read the transformation pages left to right.
>>290778341Thank you for posting. I keep them inside a bigger crystal.
I like the dic version
>>290791633cute scowl
>>290794301Mahou shoujou do NOT have dics!
>>290797194They have mine
>>290797912Why did they take it from you?
>>290778067>maybe the real golden crystal was the boyfriend i got along the way
>>290798161So they can rape villains with it.
>>290719844Act 47: Dream 9: Dead Moon Dream
>>290800267I can't believe that Usagi is fucking dead
>>290800601>aqua rhapsody>is this the real life? Is this just fanta sea?
>>290800727>In Greek mythology, maenads were the female followers of Dionysus and the most significant members of his retinue, the thiasus.>Often the maenads were portrayed as inspired by Dionysus into a state of ecstatic frenzy through a combination of dancing and intoxication. During these rites, the maenads would dress in fawn skins and carry a thyrsus, a long stick wrapped in ivy or vine leaves and tipped with a pine cone. They would weave ivy-wreaths around their heads, and often handle or wear snakes.Interesting...
And that's it. That's actually a pretty cool ship.Have you had any nightmares recently?
>>290800810I rarely remember my dreams Thanks as always OP!
>>290800810>Have you had any nightmares recently?i think i have but i dont remember them, i just wake up feeling that something scary has happened
>>290800267Finally, Sailor Moon getting a taste of her own medicine
>>290800660Holy shit these girls are like 60% legs
>>290800810Thanks OP>Have you had any nightmares recently?Yeah, I went to work this morning
>>290800548>>290800558>>290800574>i'll control these sharp glass shards.. and use them to form a mirror around you!>no! she broke the mirror! how can this be?!
