Chapter 83
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What is this?Hunter x Hunter?
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>>290733948And done
THE leader of the spooky brigade
Thanks for the dump OPholy shit the author has been reading some Nasu
>>290733298LET'S GHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>290733442>>290733457Evil bitch.
>>290733585>I ama a genius->>290733609>OH FUCK
>>290733667That's some bulllshit.
>>290733301>>290733324>>290733343>mash square for damage multiplier
>>290733762>she was hoarding the Tanden of all her victims That's really fucked.
>>290733838Didn't notice the neck wobble until now.
>>290733525>>290733667okay the power levels are getting kinda wacky
>>290733966Lots of small errors this time. Like is "gongen" and "gonzen" supposed to be used interchangeably? And "he" being used even after the ghost has been established to be a girl.Weird prose too but I'll chalk that up to the omnipotent narrator speaking since it's usually Yayoi describing what's happening.
>>290734969>Oh my time traveling sword—>Aiyeeee Sergeant sama, don't pull out your sword too!!!
>>290733966Like i said before.It really doesn't surprise me that something like this ended up happening; some of the Ghosts she has actually hate her for forcing them to fight against other, stronger Ghosts.What's more, the Lady of the Fire Butterflies actually swore that she would kill Yayoi and her entire family once she managed to free herself from her control.The only ghost that is truly on their side of all is the Starving Child of the Eclipse.
>>290735036What about Castle H Child, Sarge, and Masakado?
>>290734969They'll need it against the Replaced.
>>290733966Thanks OP.Previous two threads that died recently if anyone's wondering:>>290665270>>290690531
So what exactly happened to Yayoi here in picrel? This is from last chapter. It looks like something was ripped out, but we see at >>290733928 she was maybe just (spiritually) hurt? So she just took soul damage or something?
>>290736073The page after that too if it helps.
>>290733474>The faint breeze being blocked by their body.I thought she'd be intangible to normal matter in this state.
>>290736073It looks like it just ripped her entire stomach skin off, no organs look missing, at least immediately visible
>>290736073It just dealt her a significant spiritual wound that temporarily paralyzed her. It didn't have time to snatch her Tanden.
>>290736130Alright then, that's fair. I thought she had gotten pulled out in someway going by the panel before it.
>>290736220 (Me)Ah, yeah, I see it better now: she has an overlapping spiritual body in the panel that the "stomach skin" gets ripped off. I thought it was only her physical body in that panel.
>>290733298We here. Now wut?
>>290733570>>290733629I just realized she has breasts in these. I believe the source quality is this low, so it's not like Kredim can do anything about it, but it would be nice if it was better quality. Not for NSFW reasons, but because it would be easier to see what's going on, and the quality would also make the art more appreciable.
>>290733525It feels like they start by making sure the ability can oneshot Gojo and then go from there.
>>290735036They have others but yeah, Fire Butterflies is probably better off getting killed, they have better stuff than her butterflies drain now.
>>290733570>Brackets everywhereWhat is this? Kengan?
>>290733428https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KotlCEGNbh8
>>290736256There's probably a more elegant word than stomach skin but I'm retarded. Have spiritual wounds looked like this in the past, or is this a spiritual wound turned physical since this ghost seems to be pretty high up there in power levels comparatively.
>>290736728I don't think it's a wound turned physical. I think she just took too much spirit damage and fainted.
>>290736728>There's probably a more elegant word than stomach skin but I'm retarded.No, it's fine. I understood it and used it myself.
>>290733366Kino
>>290735018Sargent is the worst opponent for this guyTime traveling sword doesn't matter to the guy that would out heal any damage he can give. One touch from Type Zero sword and the fight ends
>>290733390>>290733908TN: Salvation means Violence in Japanesebased buddha-sama
We are slowly reaching "THAT" bros...
Really feel bad for not being around to help the topics this time. My comp is being worked on and I've been busy. This was a cool chapter tho.
>>290734361-STOOOOOOOO
>>290735366Sargent, while not directly against Yayoi, is more dangerous passively since he cannot control the ghost soldiers. If Type Zero is not active, his passive curse would still be dangerous
>>290733301>>290733324>>290733343>>290733366Holy entrance>>290736107i hope author explains
>>290733966Thanks
>>290733298This is the thread.
>>290735366They have to bring booze to Slithed Maiden, so its not like she does it for free.Sarge's first objective is to die for real, so he is helping out of interest first, even if he is "one of the good ones".We just don't know about Masakado, but at least he is on Yayoi's side.
>>290733525what the fuck
>>290736427It's probably too difficult getting rid of Oiran and anything that could would likely be far more dangerous. They also can't just leave her sealed somewhere as the Graduates clearly find ways to get stronger when unattended.
>>290734969>>290736379Actually it feels like quite a few of the characters in this show can beat Gojo. Like everyone has some homing autohit attack, or an soulhitting aura, or just casually creates space warping. We're also getting counterspell sort of effects to now.I do wonder what's the mindset in coming up with new powers actually, they've always been extremely deadly with most ghost fights putting them through blenders they've got to graze and regenerate from. Like even that no name brain ghost has their serious opener be rip out your brainstem.
>>290737609This guy doesn't have any heals of his own except for the standard ghost package so he loses the battle of attrition against anyone that can. He could blitz Oiran but she could just surround herself with the 'makes you bleed from every orifice' curse so the samurai can't even step close to her.And Asura could just make it rain.
>>290742259Asura's true body also hides in a reflection with the crystal robot being some BunreiSamurai would blitz the robot then die from being meatballed
>>290736379As long as the move needs to move physical distance, then Infinity would block it. This dude can't beat Gojo.
>>290743048He would also die to Marbas since the demon doesn't have organs of his own.
>>290745235kek
>>290733390the name “Tengai Guze Gongen” have been derived from deus ex machina with Japanese elements added to it> "天外" (Tengai)> Meaning: Beyond the heavens, outside the known world> Translates perfectly to "ex machina"> Literal stage mechanics: The god crane lowering down from outside the stage where it doesn't belong> "救世" (Guze)> Meaning: World-saving, salvation> The exact plot function of the trope> Literally exists just to bail the MCs out of a softlock> "權現" (Gongen)> Meaning: Shinto/Buddhist avatar, a deity temporarily manifesting in the mortal realm> Translates perfectly to "Deus" (God)> Not just any god, but a god that manifests out of nowhere just for this specific event> Put them together: 天外救世權現> The Outerworld Salvation Avatar> It's literally just Deus ex machina wearing a badass samurai armor> Shows up for the first time in the absolute absolute peak of despair> One-shots the boss, refuses to elaborate, leaves
>>290743779He is time travelling with his sword blows, can't increase the space between things faster than 0 time.
>>290746758>leavesYayoi wishes.
>>290746758>>290733390I still don't like the localizing to Buddha because it evokes a certain way of seeing the character, i.e peaceful and enlightened. It should've just been something like "Transcendent Incarnation of Salvation"
>>290748224Also we already have a Transcendent in Transcendent Jizo so the title feels redundant and watered down.
>>290745235This is cute.
>>290748880yeah
>>290733966I can't believe Yayoi is FUCKING DEAD
>main character of DG is named Yayoi>main antagonist of Ura Baito was named YayoiCONICNDICENDE???
>>290748880I'd his backstory if you know what I mean
>>290752001GET MEATBALL'D
>>290733525>>290733548honestly i don't understand what happened. does the gae bolg hit or miko manage to conceal herself first but practically locked in concealing position? if it hit, is samurai incapable of using the slash consecutively ?
>>290751957I'm starting to suspect she's actually going to die. Not now, but maybe in this story somewhere.
>>290754115I mean, lots of shonen protagonists "die" but come back. She wouldn't be the first.
>>290753101Samurai just barely missed her and decided to just go monkey mode instead of seeing if he could try cutting her again.The concealment isn't actually a stealth mode, it's more like straight intangibility. She then drops the intangibility so she can actually fight better.>if it hit, is samurai incapable of using the slash consecutively ?Nah, he clearly can >>290733860
>>290733966Christ this fucker might reach Masakado tier at some point
>>290733693Super Buu's Vice Shout
>>290751976Hmmmm
>>290743779Gongen's retroactive cuts are explicitly stated to go beyond causality and seem to essentially appear on his victim's bodies despite him not appearing to do anything from his victim's perspective. It would bypass Infinity in the same way Asura and Class 0's hitscans would.
>>290753101Gongen used the slash, but because of the miko's invisibility, he only NARROWLY misses her (which would have instantly ended the 'fight' if it connected). Instead of going for another cut and maybe clueing her in on what's actually happening if he misses again, Gongen just goes "fuck it" then rushes her down with brute force.>if it hit, is samurai incapable of using the slash consecutively ?No, he's fully capable of doing so given he uses it to finish her. He simply missed and didn't want to bother doing it again via calculating her relative positioning.
DG is kinda funny last chapters were pure horror and this chapter the ghost just beat the shit out of the miko and beheaded yayoi
>>290758717>gets heart, brain, and spine removed because he just decides to stand there and tank it
>>290733298Dorothy is for...
>>290759861Complete plushie imprisonment then getting sacrificed in a gu ritual.
>>290758705Now, now, we aren't certain that has happened. I'm banking on either Tai somehow blocking the attack or Oboss's person he was foreshadowing in...shadowing Yayoi shows up to stop it. Because, the alternatives are that Yayoi has figured out a counter this fast or...she just dies here, which would be very anticlimactic.
>>290760639Plot twist: After Yayoi dies, she becomes an evil spirit and gains the ability to control other spirits
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>>290760639egg
>>290754115She will, and she'll get power up from it like shaman king went to hell to train
>>290754115There was a theory a few threads back that Yayoi actually died in the car crash and the Yayoi we know is a replaced
>>290733508or the rules of nature if you will
>>290733548>those damn pesky mages, better cut their hands and tongues first
>>290733693>Samurai used screech>DEF Down
>>290733693is like Ginbak from versus in the recent chapter, where he break out of the teleportation magic circle by shouting really hard.
>>290733729>>290733746>>290733762wait aren't the ones equipped that she's using the ones from our jobb- I mean our heroes?
>>290764138Mages violated the NAP so anything is acceptable.
>>290758717It's funny a lot of these Anomalous combat series just devolve into two characters trading instant death and "HOWEVER"s back and forth like kids on the playground (Ghost Fixers has gotten REALLY fucking bad about this) so this chapter was kinda refreshing seeing some dude just unga his way through it
>>290765180>two characters trading instant death and "HOWEVER"s back and forth like kids on the playgroundThat was just the Taisui fight but it also ended with the gorilla of the team unga bunga-ing his way through nonsense.
>>290765180The level of HOWEVER and UNO REVERSE in Ghost Fixers is incredibly hilarious, but I agree. It has gotten very silly.
>>290764497Kek
>>290765180It makes sense since their powers are very broken, speaking of ghost fixers did it stop being dumped? i havent seem it in a while
>>290741296Personally, I think the reason why so many ghosts have some bullshit intent kill ability is because most of them can normally get back from that. As they are ghosts as long as they have enough energy and even if they run out, they would just normally dissipate or return to the plussesThen we add that the main characters have the Substitutes which would allow them to recover from almost any instant kill ability and you get a series where almost everyone has some sort of broken ability
>>290769378>did it stop being dumped?Yeah and I don't blame the dumper, it's lost a lot of it's earlier magic IMO now that we're on what seems like the Endgame which is just one incredibly long battle with no end in sight
>>290770712that sucks, i kinda wish it had went more on the anomalous stuff aspect more
>>290769378>did it stop being dumped?Unfortunately. >>290770712I think it might be best to wait until it's finished or at least until this battle is concluded then do a storytime to catch up on everything.
>>290770712Was Summer Time Rendering the same?
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>>290764059Would explain the sudden personality changeThough if that's the case, it's probably a friendly spirit that ended up in Yayoi's body and forgot its memories rather than an actual Replaced
>>290775470>>290764059She is also much stronger than a normal person, there is the possibility that she wasn't entirely replaced but instead it became something like a symbiotic relationship
>>290775470>>290775564My pet theory isn't that she's not replaced but she is in a sort of permanent near death state. You know how their are stories where one is near death, their fight or flight response kicks into overtime and they do things they normally cannot do? I think the accident turned that switch on and never turned it off.
>>290776103it could be also like a tie with kuubou that as long its "alive" she is also is
>>290765180I'll go and read of this ghost fixers manga and then get back to you one what it thinks about it.
Ghost bump.
>>290776362>Yayoi destroy Kuubo and dies as wellNyo...
>>290764059I would be very upset if that was the case, the same goes for if Eiko was a Replaced.
Is he the strongest graduate after this showing?
>>290773765They both had a similar type of progression, but Fixers' degree of escalation in its last third is so absurd that it makes STR's final act look sane in comparison. I used to rag on it but now I'm starting to think that maybe it wasn't so bad after all.
>>290780580Nah, I think he loses against New Emperor, Sergeant, Shinigami, and Asura.New Emperor comfortably out ranges him.Sergeant's curse is too strong against melee fighters in a 1v1.Shinigami is debatable since Gongen isn't going to sit there and wait for the instant kill to go off but it is wraps if it goes off.Asura's notebook and rain can kill Gongen.
>>290780580New Emperor is obviously still stronger.
>>290780580i'm pretty sure there is a massive diagrem and he would be beaten by others like he can't actually deal with sargeant for one
>>290780580He is high tier, but not the strongest. He can probably beat monk, since his hands are not going to stop him and he will zero in on where the chant is before it is done. H Castle can be tricky if he can't find her in time. Axe Murderer has toon force and Shuten, but I can see it going either way. He has no answer for Sarge or Oiran, they have too many debuffs, though he may do better against Oiran. Asura and New Emperor can out distance him. I won't comment on Zero, because he may have also got stronger in the interim.
>>290733693It really is Pokemon!
>>290773765Yeah once it hit it's endgame it was just a long slog of a final fight
>>290780580No, Masakado is hands down. Fucker went toe to toe with an entity that, if it's not actually a god is something really fucking close to one and beat it in straight combat
>>290781162>Sergeant's curse is too strong against melee fighters in a 1v1.I swear there was a quote that had past Gongen within the Sergeant’s curse range still had him on the same level of strength as a “normal” graduate.
>>290784838Damn, might have to revise the tier. Gongen is probably around 2-2.5 graduates strong.Feels like its worth reminding that in this chapter, all the graduates introduced so far, only Gongen and Masakado were "EV trained" to maximize their potential. Everyone else are either natural like Bleached Head, Child, Asura or improperly trained like Oiran and Priest.
>>290785389>needed the Sergeant's nerf to be brought down to the level of a 'normal' Graduate>this was BEFORE he trained hard enough to develop his retroactive slashJesus.
>>290785432>>290785389This is exactly why I think he’s the strongest graduate, other than maybe new emperor. It’s just that backwards time slash and the “fuck your complex ability, I’m stronger than you” shit he did.
>>290785389>>290785487I forgot does Yayoi have Tai sui with her right now? I bet that fight fag would love to try this dude
>>290733390 >>290733366Akuma Samurai?
>>290733390>>290746758i would go with "Beyond Saving Avatar of God".
Really hope we get to see more of the western “ghosts” like Marbas.
>>290785996He's watching everything going on and isn't going to interfere. His future sight did indicate the gang was going to survive everything up until the fight with Kuubo.
>>290785432He was a punch kick slash merchant before his buff lmao
>>290787468Said punch kick slash merchant was so strong that the Sergeant’s curse, which could vastly weaken the face skinner, only weakened Gongen to the strength of the average graduate.
>>290752001>>290752017i feel bad of that Eclipse kid.
>>290780580Dark Emperor and That Chinese God.
>>290764538He is the best, he could solo this thing.
>>290785996He's sitting back and watching. This fight isn't anywhere near enough for him to justify intervening.
>>290780580He's physically the strongest but certain match ups can make things more difficultType Zero Sargent would take every hit he does and out heal him and one touch from his concentrated curse can end the fightAsura hides under the reflection and can snipe him while the samurai attacks the BunreiSlit Child can win if she starts out hiding ad just continuously attack him from rangeNo one beats True Emperor
>>290763829A doppelganger ghost?
If we swap every graduate's fight, who wins and who loses?i.e Which graduates beat corrupted Child at H CastleAsura at WatergateMarbas and ShishimuraBleached Head This chapters ghostetc
>>290778674no nyo!!
>>290733609>The bindings were forcibly shaken off by "brute power">>290733629>The winner should have been the Zonji user>>290733729>Absolute defense doesn't protect you from the impactsI can't quite fathom this. For the first two quotes, I believe he's just brute forcing it, right? Is there no other explanation? Can other ghosts do this too? If this was bleached-head she was fighting could he also just brute force away the effectiveness of her hand-signs? Is this a special thing Gongen can do? I'm having trouble making sense of this without resorting to "this one is violent, therefore the usual rules don't apply". I'm worried in later fights he'll just power through things unexplained. For me, even Taisui, as strong as he is, has an understandable scale of strength, whereas right now what Gongen can do feels ambiguous.As for the last quote, on absolute defense, what exactly does it do if she's taking internal damage from it? Does it only prevent him from making physical contact with her or something?
>>290790286I am assuming that since the ghost is physically interacting with the ground since Gongen's punching it created a crater, that the ghost is immune to the punches but is still being pushed into the ground and being hurt from that
>>290790286Remember that the time traveling slash of Gonge is not some curse. It is legitimately him having enough brute force and skill to just make his slash travel back in timeHis "brute force" is basically whatever the fuckWithout the buff, it was noted by Yayoi that the ghosts physicals were shit. Meanwhile. Gongen would still be Graduate tier even after 3 layers of Sargent's curse. Even if we say that mo key ghost is high Graduate with her buff, she would still be weaker. I'd say the same with the BindingAlso for the defense barrier, it was noted that because she was getting pinned to the ground and getting crushed
Bump.
i stole yayoi red panties
>>290791133>being pushed into the ground and being hurt from thatLike she's being pressured? Like if a giant's hand wrapped around her and tried to squeeze?>>290791206>Remember that the time traveling slash of Gonge is not some curse.I can accept his slash being a special honed skill thing. That over the years after his death he practice it eternally to the point where he's so good with it, it's super fast and super accurate. So fast that it goes backwards in time (questionable, but I'll accept it), and so accurate he can likely hit the same spot, within micrometers, multiple times in a split or 0 seconds, like when he cutout Yayoi's heart through all the substitutes. However, in the quoted parts, his actions do not look to be a matter of swordsmanship. He flexes off the bindings, overcomes her zonji use with his hand, and crushes her into the ground all without his sword. >Even if we say that mo key ghost is high Graduate with her buff, she would still be weaker. I'd say the same with the BindingPriestess is some kinda psuedo-divine level with her [Golden Light Divine Incantation] (>>290733570). I assume her handsign's effects would be around divine level as well. Maybe not as high as Taisui, but still divine. Yet Gongen can flex it off with "brute force" seemingly with no problem.The manga frames this as some kind of special brute force, but since he is also strong under Sarge's curse, is it not the case that maybe he's just really powerful? Like if Taisui broke free of her bindings and pounded her out we wouldn't say he's especially brute forcy or violent right? Wouldn't we just see it as him being a stronger ghost? If Gongen is simply "a very strong ghost", then I can understand the events that unfolded. However, I feel this would put his strength into divine levels.
>>290793001i blame yayoi for the fact he is taht strong now
>Ura yayoi makes gray stronger>DG yayoi makes ghost strongerI'm noticing...
>>290793001>He flexes off the bindings, overcomes her zonji use with his hand, and crushes her into the ground all without his sword.Exactly, he is that absurd in skill amd strength that he can just overpower binding and brute force his way through techniques the same way his skill is so high that he can cut backwards in timeHis strength and skill is treated as an absurdity beyond what even other Graduates canHe functions on an absurd level that he literally breaks the laws of mature just by his innate power>Priestess is some kinda psuedo-divine level with her [Golden Light Divine Incantation] Someone made a better translation context for this>Chapter 83 I'll begin this chapter's comment with some explanations: I don't know if Kredim is relying on AI or what, but on Page 16 they missed the Narrator describing her as a 真の超能力者 /shin no chounoryoku-sha,AKA "true Esper".>Similarly, while her "Divine Power" isn't exactly incorrect forjintsuuriki/ 神通力 , it's exact meaning is far more akin to ESP. Heck, English Pokemon has this translated as the Psychic move "Extrasensory", which is also apt because the literal "god-communion power" originated from ancient belief communion with the gods lets you perform clairvoyance, telepathy, etc.>In parts of this chapter, it's alternatively described as "superpower" /inou/ 異能 too >In short, she's a Ghost/Psychic type with two skillsets, natural-born psychic powers (including psychokinesis of spiritual bodies?) and learnt spiritualist techniques requiring handsigns (which the Narrator constantly saysresemblesthose used by the Onmyouji but not actually Onmyouji techniques) She is not exactly using Divine Power but instead was a natural Esper in that because of that era, she was worshipped as oneCoincidentally, all her techniques just "resembles" abilities from Onmyoudou. It doesn't actually work the same way amd is just her version of channeling her power. Whatever abilities amd weaknesses of it is on her
>>290793523>(which the Narrator constantly saysresemblesthose used by the Onmyouji but not actually Onmyouji techniques)I think this explains everything then. If she's not using the actual handsign stuff we saw during the Taisui-Yayoi fight, and if these are lesser imitations, then that lowers the lower level on what his strength is to something that seems more understandable. I can work with this. Thanks.
>>290738353I think it's not that exactly, but his senses were so hightened in life that he could do things like that, so now in death he's sensing some ghost equivalent to it.
>>290788939I assumed it would be Cirno.
>>290793523Official scans are 3 volumes behind so we'll see what alternative translations say next year
