Time to finish Volume 18 and find the true murderer?Other Volumeshttps://pastebin.com/9HGt1efZVolume 18 1/2>>290779807
Looks like I got the "timing" right.
Looks like I go-got th... uhhhg timinij g guuuubhhhhhhh GAAHHHH HUH HUHU GGGGFAHHH UGGGGGU "Timbolton" gaHAAHAA UUUUOOOOOOOO... derrrr
>>290802402Or is it...
>>290802321fantastic start.Love you OP! oxoxo
>>290802402Im tired of this stereotype that british people must be villains baka my head
>>290802427what happened to his teeth??
>>290802462His crimes got exposed
>>290802462He happens to be a bearer of the Nurgle mark know as British.
Hola Gamblers
>>290802427https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
>>290802402>jobber words
>>290802321Wtf can you say that on TV?
>>290802539F-UCK!
>>290802549You can if you don't read the room
>>290802549No, but he can't read the room you see
I have meh timing
>>290802321Osshii is a really great part of this arc
>>290802549Anon Oshi-San cant read the room!
This is like those Ace Attorney witnesses meltdown on fucking steroid
How the hell did someone as smart as Kaji fall for the labyrinth gamble scam?
>>290802619Official Usogui powerlevel rankings1. Mii-chan2. Kaji3. Baku4. the restClearly
>>290802638He unironically leveled up after the Bull
>>290802638He hadn't had the boy hammered out of him yet
>>290802642Kek what a jobbing bitch
>>290802619Is baku smiling a bit? Is he impressed?
>>290802638He was still "green"
>>290802642I can't believe Midara is fucking dead
>>290802642>jobbed offscreenKakeroubros...
sex with Mii-chan + cuddling afterwards (no condom)
>>290802674>cuddling without a condomAnon did sex ed teach you nothing?!
>>290802638Because Kaji wasn't smart until he consumed "nutirents".
>>290802684"THAT" case...?!
>>290802684it was "THAT"???
>>290802684ENTER SHADOWMAN FOR THE N64
>>290802684>another jobber refLook Sako, you don’t have to give grand descriptions to every minor character introduced
>>290802679It taught me quite a lotIf it's Mii-chan, then I want those consequences
>>290802742Same but with Ranko.
>>290802772Imagine Ranko as a mother...
>>290802791Uncalled for
>>290802825Jesus Christ
>>290802791>>290802825Overreacting much?
>>290802825What was his problem?
>>290802850>hey Midara what statue am I imitating?
>>290802791Didn’t anyone else think this was Amako at first?
i want to have onee-sama relationships with Marco with our problematic IQ gap relationship but alas, the world is a brutally tepid place.>>290802825This is how it feels when jannies give me a 24h for posting completely naturally occurring male vagina bones.
>>290802865Considering he was eaten, no.
>>290802873Nurse-san...
>>290802873Anon, be kind.You are not THAT retarded.
>>290802825What would you do in this situation?
>>290802868Can you at least give him time to answer? What a prick.
>>290802664By the way, if someone wonder the phone of Midura then it's a Sharp Softbank. Over and out, me.>>290802781One must imagine...
>>290802901Smooth moves>no I will not remove my hands from my pockets
We hadn’t had a fight chapter in awhile
>>290802901our HERO is so cool...
>>290802642How could Mii-chan do this?
>>290802781I would bear Sra. Ranko's ones.
>>290802988Baku you need stop bullying the poor referees
>>290803016Is the match interesting NOW huh motherfucker?
>>290802873Calm down Midara yumejo...>>290802994Calm down Spanish yumejo...Unless you want to pee on me
Baku literally could have picked any murder without a scapegoat and he STILL picked that one SPECIFICALLY just to fuck with Kakerou, what's his fucking problem?
>>290802377I hope to be wrong, but the amount of projecting from this dude makes me think if he has a chance he'll backpedal as hard as humanly possible.
>>290803060>anti corruption agency>walked in and killed a guy in cold blood>no we're not getting arrested
... What the hell is even going anymore? I feel dropped.
>>290802452Stereotypes are based on reality, tho.
>>290803070My honest Oshi would never!!!!
>>290803089ENTER
>>290803089God he looks like such a faggot
>>290803089>you got your "timing" wrong
>>290803089This dude gives big jobber energy tbqh
>>290803118You're telling me Nowa got laid?
>>290803095Baku hid one of the L file crimes that Kakerou is protecting under one of the panels so a different referee was dispatched to stop the gambleMeanwhile Midara has a duty to make sure the gamble doesn't stopIn short, Kakerou on Kakerou violence
>>290803095It's not explained super well imo, but basically the murder case panel is going to reveal a new alibi for the guy whose alibi was supposed to be erased by kakerou. All the evidence they've presented so far has left the erased alibi alone so there wasn't a problem with it, but this one would basically invalidate the result of a kakerou match, so people were sent to stop it. But at the same time a valid game is being played, so Midara is obligated to see it through.
>>290803145He wasnt half bad looking when he was younger in the extras right?
>>290803095The murder case is going to reveal that an innocent dude was framed Since he was framed using a Kakerou gamble, it means Kakerou decided to stop the gamble since they need to enforce the result of the previous one
>>290803152Oh thanks! This manga is kinda hard to follow sometimes.
>>290803152All the crimes are L-file crimes, that's why it's confusing to people.
>>290802709Wrong arm?
>>290803236No, Baku was born with his hands switched around. Have you never noticed it before?
>>290803222Nice digits, so if Midara fails to uphold the game then he wasnt fit to be a referee
>>290803260>nowa said they're amazingOh so they're shit
>>290803284SHYEEEEAAAAAH
>>290803260>Tch... What a shitty referee...
They need to grab a knife to have a chance!
>>290803305Inventive
>>290803332Oh it's his grandson not his son, that makes more sense
>>290803305Niko style Fire Kata : Paper kick!
>>290803056Are you also the Jack poster from baki threads who goes to the gym for gilf hunting? I'm just curious so I know whether to filter all Jackposters.Sadly, you cannot have my pee. I highly doubt you've gone through as much suffering or effort for a loved one as my true moid of choice has. Pathetic. >>290803260>>290803305I love bloody noses so much bros. Truly the most erotic state of men.
>>290803191Which makes me wonder why the other panel crimes are in the L file if they don’t involved someone getting scapegoated? The l file consists of people who used the parents gamble to set innocent people up
>>290803351masquerade violation!
This is the hypest fight in the manga so farHold on to your butts
>>290803351Are these guys fucking vampires or something why do their ears look like that
>>290803352Yeah. I even got one. Sometimes I say fun fact about cars and phones or just Kengan shitpost because my brain is totally rotten.
>>290803397WATCH ME SWOOCE RIGHT IN
>>290803365They do, but the evidence that Baku and gang prepared for them was based around incriminating the perpetrator, not exonerating the scape goat directly. Because the thing people lose in L-file gambles is their alibi, they don't get automatically arrested, they just don't have a defense if they get accused of a crime.With the murder panel, Baku is planning on giving the scapegoat an alibi, which is the real problem
>>290803421h-he's fast!
>>290803397He did the Terashi dodge!
>>290803056No.
>>290802644Kaji should be above Mii-chan, as a level 99 rape master he has an innate advantage over women.
>>290803351What fucking Prince is financing these dudes
>>290803421Sliding under someone's leg and then jumping over him is a power move
>>290803397>>290803421>>290803445>>290803463H-HE'S JUST LIKE THE CONNEC-
>>290802988So the only issue is that out of all cases Baku chose from the L file, he intentionally chose one case that was already pinned on someone and not just still on the rewards list. Why? Why troll your referee like that?
>>290803399Oh! You're also caranon. I'm sorry!I'm sorry for being so rude.I'll only mildy hate Jack posters from now on. >>290803445Sako's movement and angles really get better as it goes on. He's had nice sequencing and had a unpolished idea but you can start seeing the stylishness and more cool shots start coming through.Is this around the time when he started fighting amateurishly irl? Or was that the next arc where he became a boxer(?).
>>290803365>Which makes me wonder why the other panel crimes are in the L file if they don’t involved someone getting scapegoated?Yukiide had a list of free dates which are linked to a crime. If you reread the early parts of the gamble, you'd see in the description of the first uncovered crimes they haven't found a culprit yet. Only the murder case has one.Just because someone is registered into the L-File doesn't mean they got a scapegoat for his crime yet. Even Ikuto did his murder a few years before Kaji goombled his alibi.
>>290803509Phone anon gets the best shots, huh.
why are there faggots e-flirting in my gambling storytime
>>290803540Sudden backstory?!
>>290803520Yeah, the L file is essentially a bunch of cases on ice that get "laundered" through the alibi "gambling" in time. It's a 'win-win' for everyone...
>>290803477I know some anons are very tired of kengan posting (which is fair enough) but its reslly funny comparing this fight to the fighter choreography in omega. Its actually incredible how dogshit that manga is on every level compared to any other series, especially good ones
This flashback really had an awkward timing.We're like between two cliffhangers here.
>>290802512I just realized why there's a space between Ma and chiavelli on the cardmy guess is that it was initially misspelled as Macchiavelli witch 2 c (even here in Italy it's misspelled a lot) and then hastily corrected by deleting one of the C's
>>290803566Normally I don't like TL notes but they're needed for this series
>>290803566>Sudden time travel arcWhat the fuck?
>>290803593Duwang go above and beyond later on
Wait what
I can't believe Midara and Nowa went back to the past!
KINO
>>290803624To play some shitty games that suck ass!
>>290803630What a fucking pageWeekly manga btw
>>290803530Jack-san got game...
>>290803647what a time it was to be a jap getting this fresh weekly huh
>>290803648why are there namefags in my gambling storytime
>>290803661Lmao thats amasing
>>290803505Lol! Jack Hanma is my HERO and I decided to go to the gym 4 years ago because of the Baki manga. I also happens to make myself comfortable with an older lady! Thanks for reading this useless blogpost I have some interests and knowledge in cars and phones.>>290803570Usogui fights are so fucking good, but I should tone down the Kengan posting.
>>290803661Wish I could be on that set watching two random dudes fight to the death
>>290803684I leave that open to interpretation.
>>290803737Is the implication that every time his punch made a "BANG" sound it was from the pistol?
>>290803714did he just... go limp?
>>290803737Would something of that size be as loud as the they are making it out to be?
>>290802340basedbut also, he's a hit and runner, so not basedthis averages out to net neutral so I have no opinion on this
>>290803794>I will find Waldo
>>290803846The larval form...
>>290803846Why is black Charlie kissing the floor
>>290803910KWAB
>>290803910KWABOTY
>>290803846Odd subversion, in another story he would be mocking the father, but here he is consoling him in his heart
>>290803910Aow.
>>290803910Owie!
>>290803910He TANKED that
>>290803889THE TIMI
>>290803935https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z43hHLsKqaA
>>290803910I love Sako's face impacts. They only get better and better,Geni has some real nasty ones that would make Georgie proud.
>>290803910AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE
>>290804007Not.. Not.. That guy!
>>290803529I can't find this one, lol!
>>290804007This is the guy that Kyara replaced as no. 0 when he got recruited btw, but notably he was not the no. 0 at the time that Nowa jr. beat him, someone else is.
>>290804007Wait so not the actual number 0 just the jobber who lost to kyara already offscreen?
>>290804007He's Kagerou best jobber
>>290803824>>290803910>Abused by his family and beaten down by Chad when he tries to stand up for himselfGamer oppression...
>>290804063>p-please love me grampappy...
>>290804041Yeah he beat the guy that basically held the title ceremonially (since numbers didn't mean shit back then) and thinks he's god because of it.Funnily enough Kyara gave the rank some meaning again since he refused to be anything lower than no. 0 because he was the strongest.The current number 0 also holds the title for a similar reason
>>290804087I wonder if Kakerou is gonna come wipe their hard drives of this film
Kadokura would never job like that...
>>290804131The director is a man of taste
>>290804131>HOWEVER>DUE TO INTENSE GAMER RAGE MIDURA WON'T GO DOWN
>>290804158Hey that's Marcos trick!
>>290804131>>290804158>"I'll let you die here">kicks the shit out of him and revives him
>>290804184>BURY THE LIGHT DEEP WITHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!
>>290804131That director? Sandro.
>>290804158smug aura is off the charts in the bottom panel
>>290804207Based director
>>290804267That's it for our guy huh
>>290804267Judo... Strong?
>>290802873>posting completely naturally occurring male vagina bones.BASED
>>290804292>compliment hexingDoes "our gamer" know the "meta"?
>>290804343!
>>290804343Holy fuck insanely based
>>290803222I think I hate Kekakerou
>>290804343>jobbing to a .22 LRRED JOBBER FLAG
>>290804343>you've depleted my hp below 25% Nowa, now my berserker's rage is activated
>>290804367too much testosterone on screen right now
>>290804367Damn that counter is brutal
>>290804367WEEKLY FUCKING MANGA BY THE WAY!
>>290804390ouchies
God damn, you dont have to do him like this man
>>290804367>shoryuken on wake up
>>290804410That boy ain't right
YO THIS FIGHT IS AWESOME!
>>290804410Are there any refs that arent clinically insane?
>>290804367I like to think Sako did hair on MMA fighters after they got the shit beat out of them, for references
>>290804410I like the way Midara fights, it fits his personality
>>290804440NOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T CRY YAKOU!!!!!
>>290804449Referee number Zero, he’s just fucking cool and wise
>>290804390Getting your windpipe crushed is essentially the most unrecoverable state you can get in a fistfight huh
>>290804449That one guy that jobbed to Baku?
>>290804451A few friends of mine did MMA and one of them was a barber before it, never realized how big it got here.I watched a fight from him and he won with a really good haircut
>>290804410>I simply let you beat me half to death to lull you into a false sense of security so that it would be even more satisfying when I dab on you>No, I wasn't merely pretending, I really am half fucking dead now, owBased
>>290804451>interrupts the medics to take pics of the fighter's hair in disarray
Joder... That got me hyped for the next chapter of Baki. I need my dose of fights.
That's it for Volume 18!Thanks for reading and dont be a liar anon or the Misrepresentation Muncher will come for you!See you tomorrow for the first half of Volume 19!
>>290804410i could fix this shota.>>290804440and this ojisan>>290804449they're actually sane, you're just insane for denying your own jouissance
>>290804526He RAN
>>290804526Hell of a good volume.
>>290804526Thanks for the dump op
>>290804526>made him cry againDrink the nice grandpa's coffee you fucks!Thanks op
>Nowa-san? It's me. Yeah I just found another completely batshit insane delinquant beating a man to near death in the public stalls. Hire him today.>Nonsense. Just trust me, I heard this from my pal in the italian mafia, they're the best men for the job.
>AT LEASCHT OUR SHCHOOLS ARENT SHOOTING RANGES
>>290804526Could Rolon Donaire drink that coffee?
>>290804449The refs are canonically doing it for free, so obviously not.
>>290804607>do you have a loicense for that gamble?
How a Usogui boat would be?
>>290804683>there's a hole in the boat>YOU ARE A BIG LIAR!
>>290804683>there is a hole on the boat!>LET'S GAMBLE ON HOW MUCH TIME THE WATER WOULD SINK THE SHIP!
>>290804683>hole enters a boat
>>290804683>Kaji, you raped the boat?
>>290804683>Purge that hole
>>290804683>a kakerou referee would see this sinking through
>>290804683>DIE YOBBO
>>290804683>show boobs to assert dominance over the water
>>290804367Ah, so it's not only Marco that has Kaiokenx20
>>290804683>a boat that always keeps floating... Doesn't exit
>>290804683Don't worry, you'll find out later
>>290804526Reminder that Billy Craig is American, and thus used to drinking dogshit coffee. Therefore, he could defeat Yakou.
>>290803566Kek I thought this was some weird flashback to kekakeou's history
>>290804683>The one capable of the most paddling in this world is me
Weird that the killer is put on the top of the evil list when the CP producer is there
>>290805747Different culture, please understand
>>290805747This is this and that's that.
>>290805747Japan only banned production and distribution in 1999, and possession in 2014.It's said that 2/3 of all the CP in internet during the late 1990 came from Japan
>>290804683>this sinking ship is a knife that I will grab by the handle
>>290806169I will grab this ship by the rudder
>>290804527>jouissanceThat's a hundred dollar word if I ever heard one.
>>290804184>picking up weaponNOOOO
>>290804410He's got that gamer mentality of staying out of the meta just to get more satisfaction from beating the meta slaves. BASED
>>290804440yakou-san does not deserve this
>>290802638Everything in Labyrinth was designed to make you panic and act irrationally, meanwhile during this arc Kaji and Baku more or less planned out the game. Different context entirely, also he got a boost to his confidence after the Bull arc.
>>290802638It's easier when you are the house
>>290802781Char, is that you?
>>290802951Every referee really just moves like that
>>290803504Because he knew Midara would think the match wasn't interesting It's a pretty interesting question though, I think Baku is trying to test out how far a referee will go for the game versus the interest of the organization here. That seems to be my idea
>>290803186>hard to follow sometimes Boy just wait until later lol
>>290803184Yeah, still a bit impishly short iirc
>>290803351>This is the type of shit the japanese camarilla allows to go downNo wonder the japanese cover was relatively good
>>290803505Iirc it was only in Tower of Karma that he started earnestly engaging as an amateur boxer, but he was already in a gym starting in Lab I believe
>>290804683>Is that a hole? Oh hey I'm a carpenter and shipwright, I can fix that ea--- *is purged by kekakerou*
>>290803962Man, the fights in Genikasuri are so visceral they make you imagine the punch live instead of just visualize it in motion
>>290803956 Is he talking about the weird scar dude Kyara fucked up or the dude between Kyara and Leader-otosan?
>>290805059To be fair, every referee is baseline some level of peak human and "ranking battles" are pretty much all offense 0 defense. Anyone who hits hard can do some pretty fucked up shit if they just ignore the probability they'll die doing it You'll see what Kaioken is later
>>290804449 Kadokura before the lobotomy
>>290807714Before Kyara
>>290802658This new guy could give Kaji a run for his money.
>>290804375Best way to solve any sort of internal dispute over rulings is to just throw hands. Whoever wins is right.
>>290805747The technical age of consent in japan is 14 or so and the government has extensive restrictions on pornography itself, and there's already a cultural obsession with women's youth between loli and idols, so culturally one who goes against society's interest through murder (killing off potential workers) is more vile than someone who just likes young girls (everyone likes young girls, baka.) Unironically, it'd be like talking about bestiality in latin american countries. It's not that it isn't taboo there, but it does not reflect nearly as poorly as it would do in the northern west comparatively. In a more likely answer than just "it's a culture thing," pedophilia and sex crimes are a lot more difficult to portray properly and Sako may have not felt up to the idea at the time.
>>290804410That's dedication to his fetish.
>>290802321The man with integrity!
>>290803197Kushinada just can't stop getting shat on, how did that dude ever get hired as a referee?
>>290804683
>>290803714>bang bangPull my devil fist!>>290803737Oh, it was an actual gun lmao.
>>290802321BASED
>>290804323SHUT THE FUCK UP AND USE SPOILERS YOU AMEEBA
>>290804526Thanks OPI can't wait for tomorrow
>>290804410https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVMJSQLGnZk
>>290802321thereee goes my herooo
>>290802321I'm liking this guy more and more
>>290802467kaiji 4d chess
>>290808637Kek, very well made.>This is a game of crokinole isn't itSuperb
>>290810576His name is not fucking Kaiji
>>290803630>>290803610>>290803589rereader herecompletely forgot about this sequencethe KINO hit just fucking rightI can feel it in my bloodstream
>>290810613koji...
>>290804449Douji is pretty much a normal dude, with a short but Kino backstory.
>>290803397>>290803421>>290803445Referees must work out seven and a half days out of six. Holy shit.
>>290804526Meep meep
>>290811216He still fight against other referee to be STL's referee, in weed forest
>>290811590 Could Yakou beat them all fairly? He's pretty much at the realm of unreasonably strong during Karma but he's basically just an old man with shitty coffee after
>>290808514Kushinada is a shitter, that he's the only one who get kidnapped by Billyhttps://usogui.fandom.com/wiki/Kushinada_Tetsuma
>>290802321Kek, based Oshi.
>>290803504>>290807449For the karamete to succeed in full Baku needs everyone listed in the L file to be afraid, including the ones who already had a scapegoat punished for them. It also gives him a little more insight into how kakerou works and how they resolve conflicts like this, though that's probably just a bonus. Finally having other referees fight a bunch could reduce the competition for number 0, even if only slightly.Even if the broadcast were to be stopped partway through, by having shown part of the case there is still a chance for a full karamete success, especially if Karl delivers a good speech in the next broadcast.
>>290804683>>290808637Oh boy...
>>290802315Fuck, I missed this and the previous dump. Gotta catch up.
>>290802684MYSTERY NIGGA!
>>290802988Is Baku trying to stretch and bend Kakerou's rules as much as possible to see what will happen?
Doing a "first to 10,000 rock paper scissor while robbing the national treasury" game with my friend and calling Kakerou to referee.
>>290803222Based though, no bending the rules.
>>290803351That guy in the top right panel isn't human, he's some kind of goblin.
>>290803910Midarabros...?
>>290804007>former number 0Fucking fraud.
>>290804367The smug guy getting his jaw fucked is very satisfying.
>>290804410>ACK
>>290804440What the fuck, it can't be THAT bad.
>>290804526Is that coffee stronger than Midara?Thanks OP.
>>290811626Maybe some of them but definitely not Kadokura or Manabe, that's the whole point of why he did what he does during that challenge
>>290804683>all those repliesYou fuckers are gouging my sides.
>>290802321I saved over 2000 pages of Usogui but I think I missed this one. Never gave Oshiken that much thought before but I like him more after this reread.
>>290802467>>290802487>>290802512Oh ok, I get it now. The strange part is how the system would know if you have 0 cards or not, like if you gave cards away. That doesn't really make sense.
>>290802919>Sharp SoftbankThis one?
>>290803236oh, yeah.
>>290802825What a psycho-
>>290814973>The strange part is how the system would know if you have 0 cards or not, like if you gave cards away.It doesn't need to know that at all, the initial card distribution basically takes care of that. Person A gets 10 cards each with the electronic signal "A", person B gets cards with "B" etc. Then the card box accepts all "A" cards until it has accepted a number equal to>10 MINUS (number of rounds where A didn't drop a card).
>>290802901cool
>>290815058Using other people's cards is considered valid, even if your own cards are zero. And similarly if all your cards are destroyed you're counted as having zero cards and you won't get the automatic 1 card contribution every round.
>>290803504>>290812356Spoiler Baku also wanted Kakerou to cut the power to the broadcast station, so that Baku could hijack the airwaves with the old Radio Tower, having a Kakerou match there to protect that broadcast.
>>290803016Top 1 most devious manga character?
>>290803053lol
>>290803089This is so awesome.
>>290803186It gets... harder lol. But it's all coherent, so imo the manga is very worth rereading. The scan team makes helpful charts for some arcs.
>>290803365This >>290803520Basically those crimes haven't been pinned on anyone, yet.
>>290803197RIP Kushi? Billy said they wouldn't kill him but uh...
>>290803222I like that leader is always playing some sort of sport or game.
>>290803305The art is so awesome.
>>290803351I get the VTMB references but also Midara looks so cool here.
>>290803397>>290803421>>290803445>>290803463Amazing.
>>290803529Now that you say it, it's neat how the phones are actual real life models.
>>290803540>>290803566Oh yeah, this arc. Here starts a long flashback arc about Kakerou's history that is basically as long as the rest of the manga combined. Some people just want to get back to Baku and the gang, but to be fair this has some of the best gambles in the series.
>>290815079>Using other people's cards is considered valid, even if your own cards are zero.Of course. Nothing in my post goes against that.>And similarly if all your cards are destroyed you're counted as having zero cards and you won't get the automatic 1 card contribution every round.This could be solved with an additional card counter that captures "all" the cards (let's say it captures all chips with the same type the cards are using within that room). Then you can differentiate used cards, usable cards, and "destroyed" cards (and you always know who those cards belonged to and thus how many cards each player has left in theory). In this example a card thrown out the window would also count as "destroyed" but I think we can safely assume kakerou will prevent that to preserve the integrity of the match.
>>290803566>The Meiji restoration againWith the focus on Police (established during the Meiji restoration), Billy possibly being based on Commodore Matthew Perry who forced open trade to Japan, I feel like this manga has an underlying theme of how society changes.
>>290803588Oh maybe lol
>>290815265>Nothing in my post goes against thatYeah I misread it a bit>let's say it captures all chips with the same type the cards are using within that roomThat could work yeah
>>290803610>>290803630>>290803661lol I was so flashbanged by this on my first read.
>>290803737OHH so that's why his punches went BANGKeep that sfx in mind for like, 200 chapters from now.
>>290803910ouch
>>290803824>>290803846>blushing
>>290803960https://youtu.be/DjY_8fa44fA?si=jK-PNtbobSB9QbgF
>>290803956Wonder if the tapestry in the background has some meaning.
>>290804007>>290804035Yeah that confused me a little on my first read.
>>290804007>>290804063>Tokyo Diet BuildingI remember this SMT III dungeon.
>>290804179Yeah, he did the slide between the legs before too.
>>290804318What a sadomasochist.
>>290804343>>290804380lol
>>290804410Ah, he was edging.
>>290811216I like him a lot.
>>290804440>the tremblingMan...
>>290802315Wow, I didn't know you guys storytimed Usogui, nice.
>>290804502Awesome.
>>290804526>drink Yakou's coffee>get aneurism>refuse Yakou's coffee>get cursedThere's no winning play.Thanks OP
>>290804588lolreference?
>>290804683>>290804711>>290804826>>290805742>>290806223>>290808637>>290804741>>290805156KEK
>>290813900Genius!
>>290815058Actually, the system does need to know that. If you are holding 0 cards, you will be counted as dropping 0 cards that turn, even if you have dropped fewer than 10 cards total.That's why Kaji needed to grab Nitro's 1 card, to hide that he was holding several more cards. Because the system would automatically count his dropped card as 1 that turn, because he was holding a card.In short, the system somehow knows if you are holding cards or not and that´doesn't make sense.
>>290815846>because he was holding a cardbecause he was holding several cards* and Kaji wanted Karasuyama to think that Kaji was only holding that 1 card from Nitro.
>>290804683>boat suddenly gets a lot less buoyant
>>290815627Welcome, happy to have you.
>>290803069Mild spoiler There's another reason.
>>290815846Cards that are broken are registered as 'spent', the sensor only registers if a valid card is placed through it. There has to be a second system in play that tracks the state of valid cards and the amount of cards a player 'has' that is not really elaborated on. This also threw me off a bit when I was reading it, but it's ultimately quite irrelevant as it would all work essentially the same without it, which is a bit silly too.
>>290816175>There has to be a second system in play that tracks the state of valid cards and the amount of cards a player 'has' that is not really elaborated on.Yes I agree, that is the only logical explanation. I feel like the game would be more elegant if the system was more "dumb" but oh well.
>>290804683>Leo, go fix that hole!
>>290804683I'm doing a boat edit!
>>290803126Man I was about to comment something like this
Fucking liars.
>>290818620Do not fuck the Baku.
This shit has to be on every television in the country right? There's no way the previous airing where they revealed kaji in disguise has 20% and this would not be the talk of the nation
>>290819704Kaji is going to hit on women by claiming he was on TV...
>>290819791Uh clearly that was Takaji kun
Why Yakuo is so bad at brewing coffee?
Did I miss a gamble or is the "Gambler's Riddle" the latest one?https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/290646060/#290648752
>>290820826You know how a savant at one thing will often be really bad at another? He's a fighting savant and shit at coffee
>>290819826>you have to believe me! It's me, I'm on the panel with a bunch of rapists and murderers!Yeah Kaji would do this.
2 hours to go!Also did a Kaji edit of >>290782520
I feel like after this arc the manga takes the next step and just produces banger after banger
>>290822413I mean, after this, Baku is practically there at having another shot at Surpassing The Leader so shit is bound to keep going upwards at least as far as i've read
Next volume, the coolest entrance for the coolest character
>>290822360kek
>>290822580Is 'him' appearing next thread or in two?
>>290822764If you’re referring to Tatsuki like I am, then in 2 threads
>>290822867There's no way he's that soon
>>290822867Is that the fella on the heelies? If so then >>290823002 damn. I really extended out the pacing in my head.
>>290807968It's not really an internal dispute though. From what leader said at the missile silo, he needs Usogui to fight the guy on the phone for him, Billy.The pool scene was straight duplicity. Leader needs Usogui to exploit the file. He should just say "Sorry bald wheelchair, I'm fucking you hard." Instead of being a weasel about it
>>290823180The decision to send Mitora to deal with Midara was Nowa's. Leader probably would have respected the outcome either way
>>290815494Do you guys think Sako plays or knows about SMT? There's a surprising amount of overlap
>>290815099>>290812356>mfw Usogui enters a gamble This is the type of insanely layered plot a lot of writers dream about I think. Genuinely a year in advance or more
>>290823180>>290823305Kakerou's philosophy being about the cultivation of perfection and order should mean more so that whoever manages to be more perfect during the showdown deserves to decide the outcome, I think. In that respect Ideal and Kakerou are quite similar
>>290823386That's why Usogui is immensely more enjoyable on rereads, you pick up all kinds of shit and discover on just how many levels the plot operates. The downside of this is that it can be a little confusing on a first read at times, but even then you have some jangling keys in the form of the fights keeping you entertained
>>290823180Baku was more like a pawn, volunteering to stick his neck out to take care of Billy. Leader made the anti-corruption task force his Plan A for fighting Billy.
>>290823327Yes, absolutely. The Labyrinth arc has many Megami Tensei similarities with Kadokura's comments about how the labyrinth would be more interesting if it had pitfalls and traps, and the law / chaos dichotomy. It would be more unlikely if it was just coincidental.And what is the first boss of the first Megami Tensei game? A minotaur. Hm, and the next boss is Medusa aka a snake woman... Hmmmmm
>>290823477100% I hope green anons here reread the manga after the storytime ends.
>>290823477 Or the art, first got interested based off of reading a little bit of Air Poker and the insanely based Kyara panel
>>290823604>Average Lawfag after one argument with a Chaos chad (Mr. Chaos absolutely knew how to argue, but he chose to act retarded for the love of the game)Kind of based though but maybe that's just Japanese culture appreciation
>>290823604I hope you realize SMT4 came out many years after the labyrinth arc
>>290823604>>290823327And now that I think about it, one of the bosses of Shin Megami Tensei 1 is.. an American Ambassador.
>>290823683Anon...
>>290823604>>290823683nta and true but the whole law vs chaos thing was a main series staple for years. I guess it's more accurate to say that ultimately both Sako and Atlus are drawing inspiration from Tokyo itself for the setting, but Sako does come across like a big-time gamer. When he isn't busy being xenophobic on twitter (based), drawing manga (supremely based considering it's bi-weekly), posting about his wife (based) or his martial arts (based)
>>290823683>>290823773Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei came out in 1987. It featured Minotaur and Medusa as its first and second boss, respectively. >>290823714I guess people forget about this game, but it came out 5 years before SMT I.SMT IV had Minotaur and Medusa as first and second bosses as an homage to Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei.
>>290823853Nocturne is most likely people's first and main exposure to the SMT series tbf
MT 2 > SMT 1 > 3 > SMT 2 > 4 > MT 1 > IF > 5objective truth btw.>>290823477There's also so many little reoccurring details and jokes I never realised too.Actually, this is probably not entirely related but Togashi (Hxh) did an interview where he said he was very inspired by FKMT for the Greed Island arcs, and noted that FKMT had good lines and was very novel-like with the planning and such. FKMT also said that manga readers tend to be reading more than looking at the images, akin to novel more than movie.What I really like about Sako's works in comparison and I'd say Morikawa and Itagaki are the same ilk in different strokes is that blend the two together. All the details and planning are woven in and out of the images themselves, All the little bits of storytelling with expressions. It feels like a complete working world rather than just characters pushing the world, in a sense. Baki always does this by having characters always feel like they're doing something away from the rest of the cast, which FKMT tends to not really do that much. Itagaki's retarded randomness never feels too far off game, he sells it completely.BNHA is a kinda anti-example of Sako/Itagaki's entire perspective style, it has decent world building but everyone is just frozen until Deku (and Hawks a little) interacts with them, and then suddenly they're zipped straight away and ready to go (the class reunion is bad for this). The entire story feels disjointed and not really a cohesive world in the end (For example Redestro's speech to Hilary Clinton supposing to be foreshadowing for Nagant but then it's all completely dropped.) Usogui, also being a jump manga really nails at keeping everything completely consistent within the world and everything falls in defined sensibilities even outside of Baku's control. (I don't mean consistent in a always the same, but always believable sense.) I'm not really a good enough wordsmith to really divine the difference.
>>290824049>if... below MT IFirst of all, if... so low hurts me deeply. Second, there is just no way you cleared MT I if you put it above any of the other games, and I say that as someone who cleared it with no online maps.
>>290824049BNHA? Why would you bring that to any sort of analysis? What an odd thing to do, like going:>Yes the literary techniques in this novel are quite different to how they are in Boss Baby.It's not even apples and oranges here at that point.
>>290824049Based SMT1 enjoyerWhere does SJ fall?That IS considered mainline, btw.
>23:03Seems like...The "timing"....
>>290803566>Sakamoto RyomaJIN Storytime flashbacks!
>>290824312Is a shitty one!
I see, he's using the "broken gear"!!
>>290824312Anon... are you from the future?
>>290824384Oh god I need glasses.
>>290824384I will leave that open to interpretation.
>>290824049Strange Journey > All Just kidding, it's Digital Devil Saga
>>290824049I kind of like something in Usogui where there's a panel that's a character's eyes and immediately under it is a panel that matches the eye placement with the jaws and mouth having a certain expression, and there's a sort of ambiguity whether the two belong to the same character or if it's the visual observation of the a character's jaw from the PoV of the character's eyeballs. In this arc for example, Baku was looking at Midara's expression I think
>>290824049>>290824143NINE > Allnah it'sif... > II > I > III >> NINE >> MT III has objectively the most boring dungeons and broken combat of all, but I replay it so I must like it somehow. Neat how the story is a logical conclusion to SMT I. SMT I be like "You can give the world order and stability, or chaos and freedom" and SMT II asks "Yeah, but what happens in time? Humans eventually return to order."I feel like the Law / Chaos dichotomy was not meant to be used past SMT II.I is iconic. Atmosphere, story, visuals, music... The gameplay is boring, with easy combat and very simple dungeons. I can see why people say it's their favorite tho. It's the most SMT SMT.III is probably objectively close to the top but I need to replay it to confirm.NINE is unfinished but the atmosphere and pre-rendered backgrounds are great. The Matrix like setting ties into the game's Gnosticism theme. Ok but this game is empty like a dead MMO (cause it kinda is).MT I is an impressive game with how HUGE its dungeons are and the amount of demons in it. This game has the 3 most CBT dungeons ever back-to-back-to-back: Mazurkah, Rotting Sea of Flames, and Infini. Level draining enemies, constant hp drain, or HUGE sprawling floors that drain your time and sanity. Pick your poison.I really respect MT I. It's a real challenge and the devs don't care if you beat it or not. So I guess it's not bad, just really painful.if... is my favorite, I replayed it a bunch of times across both versions. The gameplay is easily the best of classic SMT, with actually functioning combat and challenging, thematic dungeons (except Sloth, yes that one sucks). Like how Pride is like a tower, with the boss on top, or Gluttony twists and turns in on itself, like intestines... it's neat. Atmosphere is amazing and isolating, story is minimal but effective, Hazama's loneliness is felt. The Tower of Confinement in Akira's route is a cool setting.>>290824576BASED Digital Devil Saga is kino.
>>290824114nta, but I kind of like using examples of products that don't follow what I'm discussing myself for contrast. Sort of helps highlight what you appreciate or want to point out, in this case it's foreshadowing and good follow-through on planning, especially compared to BNHA. I think BNHA has some redeemable parts but it sort of lost the plot fairly early on. Were it not for Bones animating it, I think it wouldn't make it very far
>>290824049Better than Oda who inspired itself from Kengan Omega for the writing of Elbaph.
>>290824699I kind of agree here, I think 1 is the most foundational for what SMT is, but it was iterated on to perfection with something like 2 and Nocturne. I'm more of an enjoyer of the more avant-garde nature of DDS though, even if it isn't really SMT the same way Raidou isn't SMT or Persona isn't "really" SMT, but it's essentially a sister series. Shame it undersold though, but the principles of it got used for later Persona games and Metaphor.
>>290824776I like how Nocturne's alignments are strictly about Law and Chaos, but very specific visions of how the world should be. For the most part at least, Chiaki's Yosuga is pretty much classic Chaos.Regarding the "what is SMT and what is not" question, Atlus confused us westerners by putting the SMT header on games like DDS; Raidou, and Persona 3 when they never had the SMT header in Japan.Megami Tensei is a franchise, which contains many series. One series is Shin Megami Tensei. Another is Devil Summoner, which includes Raidou. There's Persona, Last Bible, Devil Children etc....tl;dr Shin Megami Tensei is just one out of many series under the Megami Tensei umbrella.
>>290824883>I like how Nocturne's alignments are strictly about Law and Chaosthey are NOT strictly about Law and Chaos, I mean.
>>290824699I is kind of a very funny game that gets often dismissed but the constant tempo and escalation of the plot gives it a very special place for me. It's really experimental in a way because you see the devs sort of guessing an unifying framework for all these wacky ideas shot at lightning speed ("you fight yukio mishima who wants to ascend humanity by fusing the human world with what he thinks are the kamis but ackually he was sort of led on by lilith in a proxy war against God" just being like in the first 5 hours) that keep this general tendency of the situation just becoming worse and worse. It's really unique even today, even with II and IV refining some of its concepts.
Hop in!>>290824894
>>290824924lol true. You bring up another good point for SMT I, it has excellent pacing.
>>290824110I prefer If over all the Persona games except IS. if it's any consolation.I replayed IF... very recently and I really like everything around the core execution. Just doesn't have that refinement.It used to be really high up on my list but I guess my replay of it just soured me quite hard.>>290824143>>290824576Oh SJ is second place. I flushed it by accident. Rare game where I like all 3 routes equally.Commander Gore >>>>>290824699I really gotta play Nine but I'm balls deep in Wizardry 6/7/8 first.>>290824114As the other Anon said, also because they were long running manga in Jump with very good art.>>290824932OH SNAP
>>290824883>>290824911Yeah I get your meaning. Though, as another bonus, I've always found it hilarious how both Chaos and Order characters fundamentally have insanely warped and hilariously villainous perspectives. It's based that no one in any of those games does things by half, it's always>Absolute control, free will is a mythor>ANARCHY, MURDER KILL MAIM, MIGHT MAKES RIGHT REEEEEEThough you can never *quite* tell who belongs with what until they start speaking
>>290825117Yeah, that's another issue with it. I felt like it was done best in SMT II, not because the Law option isn't radical, but because it is and it's fucking awesome. Then Chaos is reasonable, and Neutral kind of kicks the can down the road, inevitably leading to the Messians gaining control again. Again, like a counter-argument to SMT I.Whereas newer games with alignments seem to have forgotten that and went back to SMT I, making neutral the only reasonable choice.
>>290825050>Just doesn't have that refinement.So interesting you say that. To me, it at least has the most refined gameplay with good combat balance and challenging dungeons. Akira's route especially makes you really manage your resources as you climb and safe spots become few and far between.I guess you mean other aspects of the game?>I guess my replay of it just soured me quite hard.Again, that's interesting cause I like it more every time. I notice little details, just liike in Usogui. Like why are the bosses in Akira's route from Zoroastrianism, except Mammon, while the Zoroastrian deity Angra Manyu is randomly in the final dungeon of the normal routes? Maybe Mammon took Angra's place.Then in the SMT KHAN manga, they actually say that Angra was confined because he wouldn't follow Hazama. That was neat.I never played Wizardry, and honestly I'm a bit frightened to cause when I start something, I often feel like I have to finish it.
>>290825533>finishing something when you start itLikewise, my current apprehension for starting Rebirth or SMTV currently
