What could have been done to make part 2 not flop?
Kobeni
Maybe don't kill off Yuko
>>290819628Ending it at part 1
Be well written and deliver on fan expectations
>>290819628hmm... maybe don't tell your fanbase to fuck off and die? that could've been it.
>>290819628"mature" bishonen Dadji on around the world adventures with sidekick 'Yuta, searching for the Blood Devil by day, kicking ass as Chainsaw Man by night, featuring a reoccurring cast of zany auntie and uncle Kobeni and Kishibe, and don't forget the dogs, and especially Meowy!
"Chainsaw Man" Café Inspired by "Kissa Nidō" Where Reze Works to Open for a Limited Time from October 1https://www.famitsu.com/article/202609/87084To be held in Tokyo, Aichi, and Osaka. Selling items such as parfaits inspired by the nighttime pool where Denji and Reze met, Reze's choker pudding, and Pochita's mini parfait.
>>290821421Chainsaw Man's legacy!
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>>290819628kill yourself schizo
>>290821955>>290822054They wont like these
>>290822054Whoa, it got HOW many free online views that generated zero revenue?
>>290822111Nostradamus...
>>290822168>generated zero revenueone of the most sold manga of the year
Allow Denji to grow up Allow his and Asa's romance to actually develop meaningfullyEstablish a new small cast of recurring characters instead of introducing faceless nobodies. Make those characters count and establish emotional bond between them and Asa/DenjiActually write a global story instead of half-assing it. Give it a central antagonist, a theme, a resolution.In order words, don't make a fucking part 2 and do something completely different
Read MAD.
>>290819628literally anything other than what he did. killing makima so early on was retarded. if youre going to make her the villain then at least make her betrayal mean something. make her the main antagonist for part 2
>>290822950MAD is nothing like part 2, it's more in line with early Fujimoto, just without any of his retarded self-flagellating post-ironic bullshit.I'd argue Choujin X is more in line with part 2, at least with its initial premise of apocalyptic prophecy and Four Horsemen.
>>290822950>>290823053Honestly everytime i see MAD i can only think of the magazine MAD
>>290823308
this is what happened after you expect something niche from hikikomori
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>>290819628Every single time I see a Jap talking about Part 2 they say their favorite thing about it was Nayuta and her interactions with Denji, so there was never really any hope without changing the entire story.
Pawaden
>>290824463Nayuta was probably the best part of part 2. The Japanese are wise.
>>290819628Nothing, he obviously ran out of ideas and rushed the manga after Aki died. He wrapped it up well enough and should have gracefully let go and moved on but instead the IP is forever tainted.
>>290821955Hey, I was there at Venice and saw the movie! Last film I watched is Monster, it seems to look better now compared to his recent films. It was alright IMO but nowhere near as good as Third Murder and Shoplifters. Personally, I think the Look Back anime movie was FAR better
>>290824463are these japs in the room right now
>everyone hated Asa>everyone hated Yoru>I like Asa>I like YoruIt sucks. I just want something I like to be liked by others.
P gave up. It's over for chainsoy threads
>>290825714>>everyone hated Asa>>everyone hated YoruWhere you got that from?
>>290825714>I just want something I like to be liked by others.That's your problem little one
>>290819628In all honesty? Giving Fujimoto a different schedule other than weekly. He obviously crashed out HARD after the Falling Devil arc, it's obvious from the art becoming scribbles, to the plot doing a 180, to the manga going on break nearly every chapter. There's a good chance the manga wouldn't have turned out like it did had they gone to a monthly or even biweekly schedule.
>>290819628Not figuratively and literally erasing everything that made part 1 good. Give Denji something to do instead of allowing him to mouthbreath his way right back into poverty.Tone down Asa Mitaka’s mary sue manners and all the comments in-story about how much of a mary sue Asa Mitaka really is.Keep Kobeni relevant.Make better villains with deep motivations instead of those that insist upon themselves.Give Denji character development instead of explaining everything away with a Big Lebowski moment.Write Asa Mitaka raping Denji harder.More guts. More blood. More Chainsaws.More kafkaesque moments.More stakes.More monsters and allies with compelling motivations.Make a better story and never allow yourself to do a part do do like part 2 is now.
>>290825714>I just want something I like to be liked by othershttps://litter.catbox.moe/3snt26.mp4
>>290819628More CGDCT, less Coomerji...Take more rests bc your art looks like chicken scratches now.Bring back the old cast.
>>290819628Asaden healing sex
>>290826465 I would have liked to see a love triangle between Reze, Asa, and Denji, and Yoru as Asa's only chance to win
>>290825714Hate would mean anyone gives a shit about Asa. They don't. Don't care what others think, little Anon, feel whatever you want with fictional characters.
Part 2 was a mistake, Asa/Yoru was so forced it became annoying, there was plenty of other more interesting characters that could have had the spotlightPart 1 was also riddled with missing plots and lore that should have been expanded before anything
>>290827405ROW ROW FIGHT THE PAWA
>>290827379RezeAsa would work so well it's not even a joke. I know people treat it like a crackship for memes.
It is an ex-threadIt has ceased to beBereft of life it lies deceased
>>290827447Whoa, nice art
>>290819628low scale and low stakesalso not turning Denji into a 50iq drooling retardim confused how a street smarts kid and experienced devil hunter who could outsmart any oponent in combat started jobbing to anybody and everybody, especially with access to some of the most powerful devil abilities we knew of
>>290824463Based nips. No lies detected.Also,for the schizos, this shit is dead and buried, move on.
>>290819628Is Chainsaw man worth reading?
>>290819628>UUOOOHHHH BOBS AND VAGENE>DUDE SEX LOLI get that Japs are a bunch of antisocial cultist virgins who despise charisma but jesus fucking christ why do their heroes have to be
>>290828384No. The whole story got retconned, nothing happened and it was all a "dream" with a timeline reset. This whole manga turned out to be a waste of everyone's time.
>>290821955venice ovations are so performative, ever since people started reporting on it it just became a contest of getting the bigger number
>>290819628literally just copy the setup from the end of part 2 + akigive the people what they wanted. writers get all wrapped up in their own ass and think they're above it, but majority of the time they're wrong and the simple answer was the right one.
>>290828384Yes, ignore the schizo and go read it
>>290828384Not really noThe author Tatsuki Fujimoto came out as trans and it's all downhill from there
>>290828384It's the best shonen manga of the 2010/20s
Fujimoto ruined part 2
>>290828563Way to out yourself desu
>>290827200AsaDen manga dropped
>>290828715The end of Part 2 already had Aki, he's the senior Denji mentionedBut i agree it's a really cool setup
>>290822054>>290822111>>290822225Why do you post the cropped out version showing how readers dropped Part 2 due to how dogshit it is?
>>290822111Yep he's still seething Boss. Your trips were truly truthful
>>290829235Shart Poo defenders aren't going to like this one...
>>290822111The Almighty...
>>290829274>>290829303You can lie to yourself about the cropped out version but not everyone else
>>290822111He's still at it Boss.
>>290819628more naked tiddies
>shamelessly samefagging and dodging the pointClassic Shart Poo defender move
What makes Part 1 good?
>>290829355It's not terribly written like Part 2
>>290819628don't let the dandadan guy make his own manga so people find out you're a hack that cant draw or write
>>290829377So, to make Part 2 not flop, it would need better writing. (Now we gotta decide what's the "good writing" P1 has and P2 lacks.) What else?I'm being cheeky, but my point is: the answer to the question in the OP is at same time obvious and insanely complex. Ideally they'd need to keep doing things in the same style as Part 1, but without being repetitive.
>>290829402Dandadan guy only ever helped with backgrounds and shading though, the writing was always 95% Fujimoto and 5% Lin-sama>>290826130This but also Lin had a brain aneurysm midway Part 2. He should have taken a hiatus after Falling arc desu
>>290829355Denji wasn't a gutless sissy unlike most modern shonen MCs, the main trio has a fun dynamic, realistically written characters in general, the villains were actually memorable, the character designs were really solid in general, the pace is super fast with basically zero filler content, Fujimoto actually employed some creative paneling, the art wasn't astounding but it had some super iconic pages and spreads, characters didn't have plot armor in general so their deaths actually carried some emotional weight unlike a lot of shonen manga, the premise is generally just cool
>>290829355the characters, the tone and the fast pace
>>290819628Bring back Reze unironically and not kill Nayuta too soon. Also make fakesaw man an actual character and sprinkle in a bit more Barem. have Asa become the villain at the end
>>290829423yeah i dunno why people using that as an excuse, it's pretty obvious when you look at any of those big flashy spreads who drew what.
>>290821955I cringe when I read this. You can't seriously tell me people stood and clapped for 12 fucking minutes at this lesbian sob story
>>290830139there are no lesbians in the story
>>290819628 As a chef, how do you cook feces to make it taste good? You simply can't.
>>290830302Kopi Luwak is one of the world's most expensive and tastiest coffees in the world and it's Asian palm civet poop
>>290819628Not making Part 2.
>>290824463Japs only waited for NayuDen, Rezeden, PowaDen and despised Asaden and Asa herself. The 80% drop in sales didn't lie
Part 2 is the Kopi Luwak of manga.
>>290830399Part 2 could have easily lived up to the Part 1 hype if only the author Trannymoto Niggermoto gave a shitI hate him. I do hate him. Exterminate all the brutes. Drop the bomb.
>>290830139It used to be a special crazy headline for a few films, then everyone wants to be special so they do it for every fucking movie and there's a peer pressure to keep going as long as possible. It's an absolute joke of a festival now.
>>290819628Let Asa have a second romance storyline with Yoshida and let her end up with him. That's the only way to make both Asafags and part1 waifufags (90% of the fandom) happy.
So is Assassin Arc trailer for the new anime season or a new movie?https://youtu.be/s8cP1Vt5US8
>>290830616
>>290830601>It's an absolute joke of a festival now.Just realized the post was about Venice instead of Cannes, but fuck it, same story. Bunch of poseurs wanting to be part of a """moment""" and act cultured.
>>290830619It's a new season
>>290830628Selfish asshole. You're really happy everyone don't get what they wish for aren't you?
>>290830664I got what i wished for
>>290830616this character got utterly exposed by being given more screentime, should've stayed mysterious
>>290830680Yes we know you're selfish no need to emphasize that
>>290830656kind of sad because watching the reze arc at the cinema with my gf and being surrounded by basement dwelling anime watchers (and a surprising amount of fellow sex havers with their nerdy girlfriends) was cool
>>290830703I took 6 people with me but personally not a fan of anime movies, would much rather watch 30 min episodes weekly comfortably in my television
Mappa should just skip part2 so we Asafags won't have to relive the disappointment with Asa character again. Let us rest in peace please.
>>290830695yoshida's character basically amounted to proving the notion that "it's better to stay silent and let people think you're stupid, than to open your mouth and confirm it."the moment he started talking, any aura and mystery around him got vaporized.he was just an empty suit.
>>290830813Yoshida became a much better character once he started showing how pathetic he was. He wanted to have things under his control but he was unexperienced next to characters like Denji or mega devils like Death. It was funny and added to his character much more than le aura tung tung sahur 67
>>290830647It's nothing special. They do it often. They did the same with Mamoru Hosoda's Scarlet amd that movie sucked
>>290830878problem is the moment you could start feeling some sympathy for him as a guy who's just a cog in the wheel, he got his ass blown up.he should have gotten a more substantial moment before going out than being denji's personal pizza delivery man.
>>290830917Agreed
>>290830878i feel like there was potential for that, but for me it never really landed in a way that was engaging. i think i need to do a full shart 2 reread to say confidently though. maybe it was just the result of the rest of the cast & story being so dull, or how he was also pulling double duty in tedious exposition scenes that those character elements never got to shine, for me. 'cause i like the idea of them but i never clicked
>>290830952his role just wasn't substantial enough and he came off as a bit bipolar in serving literal satan instead of doing the morally right thing.his character was basically "what if aki was a slave wagie with no soul?"
>>290819724This. The manga went to shit as soon as Yuko died and they had the Nostradamus shit. The main problem with part 2 is the lack of main characters and side characters other than Denji and Asa/Yoru. Everyone else is so lackluster and unimportant. You don't give a shit about them because there is zero information about them. In Part 1 you had so many characters in Public Safety and even villains or Fiends. There aren't even fiends or contract-making with human allies/enemies in Part 2.They have a devil that can give you the power to read minds. Funny how it never gets brought up at all ever again or even utilize the Future Devil.Asa should have definitely stayed as the main character. She is a much better character than Denji or even Yoru, who are so one-dimensional.Nayuta shouldn't have died so soon, or at all. And Kishibe missing in action during the absolute end of the world is completely insane to me.
Good night /csm/
>>290831059>And Kishibe missing in action during the absolute end of the world is completely insane to me.Tbh I'm glad Kishibe didn't appear. He would have gotten Lebowski'd somehow.
>>290830703I got mad and confused after watching the Reze arc movie in theaters. I could not believe that this was the same author that made Shart 2, because Reze arc was so good.
>>290831159>the movie newfag really never read the manga
>>290819628Make it about Asa and Yoru with the Dog boy never showing up
>>290831059i think even reintroducing denji was a mistake in hindsight
>>290831059>>290831236Can you tell me what's the name of the manga is
>>290831265hello sir
>>290831232see >>290831265
>>29081962873 chapters of Denji having sex with every girl
>>290824463Yeah, another serious issue with part 2 was the lack of comedy. Nothing was funny. It was so just boring and mundane with nothing happening, break weeks, nothing happen, repeat repeat repeat. It's just a terribly written drawn-out stretched-out disasterpiece of writing. They should've never gone with the Falling Devil Church shit and stuck to more grounded school stuff or city-wide stuff. End of the world is just not cutting it. And going back to hell and having it be completely meaningless the second time made no sense to even include it. The Fake Chainsaw Man being hidden away until the very end where he died like nothing was also retarded. Death Devil was also a fucking garbage villain.
>>290831265what i mean is: if you want to tell a story about asa you can't put denji in it because he'll inevitably steal the spotlight, and likewise if you want to tell a story about denji you can't fuck around wasting time with her story too. trying to split focus was a big part of why everything felt so undercooked
>>290831296Death Devil wasnt a villain
>>290831299Fujimoto said the point of the Asa centric chapters in the start was to show a outsider POV of Denji
>>290831299Nah, the dating arc with Asa and Denji was really well done, except for the Infinity Devil problem or whatever being solved by Asa's overpowered ability was kinda weird. I missed just having fun with Asa/Yoru, Denji, and Nayuta (also Yuko and Asa's friendship)
>>290831378this
>>290821955Look Back really wasn't that good. I remember reading the manga and it was just a solid 7.5/10
>>290831378Aquarium arc fucking sucked. The only decent arc in part 2 was the very first one.
>>290831679goodbye eri was better
>>290831265>Can you tell me what's the name of the manga isAXEDman, featuring Axedji. The the most jeetcoded MC of all time that ofcourse axed his whole manga into oblivion.
>>290830756They gonna HAVE BABY MAKING SEXO
>>290831730Only decent parts were chapters 98 and 102
>>290829136Draw bab was a hero
