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Used goods shouldn't be acceptable in anime/manga...
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>>290827879
It was heavily implied in the last few chapters. It still hurts though.
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>>290827879
>manga about a hot woman loving a complete irredeemable loser like the regular anon here
>anons still complain that she's not a virgin
I mean, come on, giving you a perfect fantasy would just be too bland
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>>290827879
>used goods
What a disloyal whore...
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>>290827879
Please tell me this is yuri
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>>290827879
>Ex
What a lucky guy getting to take Hizumi's first time.
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>>290827879
>know zero context
>looks like a horror manga
>I want to say yes
It should be fine, right?
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>>290829719
>It should be fine, right?
Anon, that woman is used goods.
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the japanese don't take it lightly with the recent development
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>>290827879
Expecting this girl out of everyone to be a virgin was as retarded as it can get, why don't you go cry about it on normiedex like all the other retards do?
>>290829755
American should be banned from reading manga.
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>>290829755
So you're saying they're vocal about this new chapter...and unhappy?
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>>290827879
i can make her worse
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>>290829786
>why don't you go cry about it on normiedex like all the other retards do?
Normalfags celebrate usedgoods though.
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>>290829797
the chinese is also very unhappy
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>>290829755
>>290829786
damn what a puriatnical prude
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>>290829810
>I can accept that a girl has had a past relationship, but I can't accept she's second-hand goods
What the FUCK is this chink expecting??
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Some fags on this board really see an anime girl who had sex with someone who isn't the cardboard MC and act like they themselves got cheated on
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>>290829839
Yes.
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>the girl being a used good confirmed
>'yeah the manga is also ending too lol'
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>>290829839
market demand
virgins sells
non-virgins don't sell
is not really that hard
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even the loser bf already accepted she's experienced
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you guys really couldn't tell this was used goods slop from the first cover art? lol
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>>290827879
Damn, the author could've said it from the beginning she was used goods. Then nobody would waste time reading it. It also ties on how femdom is always bordering on NTR in manga. Wish it wasn't so
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>>290829755
About what?! What was he going to say? Did they get him? They got him didn't they?
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>>290827879
>mom completely neglects her family and is never home and the few times she is home she shits all over her husband
>after years of humiliation dad becomes a better man, finds a better woman, and divorces her bitch wife
>she somehow blames her dad for everything
>like clockwork her daddy issues instantly turn her into a desperate crazy bitch
lol
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the twitter comments have been hilarious, much more genuine than mdex for sure
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>>290829754
So am I... ;_;
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>>290829829
They want the girl to be a virgin like them
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>>290830429
I'm not a virgin and I don't like used goods.
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>>290830476
Yeah sure you're not lmao.
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>>290829933
With that title I thought it was related to pic related for a sec
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>>290830530
Same author
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>>290830538
Yeah just realized that lol
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>>290830530
Is she used goods too?
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>>290830569
Dunno, never finished it.
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>>290827879
It sucks because MC's harem are all virgins like his childhood friend actress, older sister, etc but the main heroine ends up being used goods
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>>290829933
This just killed the chances for an anime adaption
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>>290830530
>>290830538
Isn't the manga the serialized version of the very same webcomic?
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>>290830103
Which first is she talking about...?
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>>290830863
first marriage?
first child?
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>>290830863
First armpit sniff
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>>290830863
first raw creampie
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>>290830390
even im confused about it
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>>290827879
Why did she become used goods, bros?
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>>290827879
My god she's built for cucking
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>>290830342
The dad barely even said goodbye to her even though she helped give him the push to start seriously writing. At least with the mom she told her to her face that she's moving out and blames her for not being present. Dad? Who knows, not like he ever contacts his own daughter after the divorce. Not to mention both are now so busy they barely have time to spend with her, and the chapter shows that she misunderstood them talking about burdens in their big fight as meaning she was one of them. Because of course she would, she's a teenager

Still it's a pretty raw deal that led to her being negging and controlling
>dad left after finding self worth while his marriage was always hanging by a thread (the affair he has does not help)
>her first boyfriend immediately starts cheating on her the instant he finds confidence
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>>290832006
Good news, she was
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>grown some backbone
>immediately cut ties with the menhera rasing you and get a younger hole
Is this the right way to go broski?
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>>290827879
>Leaving the woman who gave him her virginity over some used goods
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Fumi-san remains mogging.
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>>290827879
>used goods
damn I was deluding myself hoping it was just slightly damaged
He should get with his sister instead
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>>290832779
I haven't read that in a while, was Fumi a virgin?
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Nothing is confirmed yet bros
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>>290833001
anon...
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>>290832688
this is not okey
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>>290830342
She blames both and both are to blame.
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>>290827879
damn she's hot
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i wouldn't mind a used good like her who only had 1 ex if i can have infinite paizuri session with her
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>>290830342
Art imitating life. Woman author?
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>>290829933
Canned and did it out of spite?
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>>290833599
more like this was the outcome all along
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>>290833688
prob shoulda revelaed that in chap 1 so people would avoid it if not into it
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>>290830391
fuck off normalfag
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author will pull a u-turn and reveal that she never put out for her 1st bf and after being cucked, she almost gave in like this page >>290827879 in sheer desperation.
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>>290834029
That page was before her cucking.
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>>290827879
Careful, Menhera can turn yandere really fast and kill you just because you won't accept her used holes...
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author is aware of the backlash
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>>290834484
Then why the fuck did you write in one? Not like there is shit you can do to make it better at this point.
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>>290827879
You guys make a big deal out of this. As long she still have marriage virginity, it's all that matters
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>>290827879
I don't read it, so I don't really care. But for the people who do read it... how big of a deal is this, really?
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>>290833832
>>290834532
You guys are so weird.
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>she had spent 20+ chapters developing a relationship with the mc.
>New chapter reveals that her feelings/behavior toward him were heavily influenced by unresolved feelings surrounding her ex-boyfriend.
>Making the MC as essentially a "substitute" for the ex.
>the gifted home made scarf now feels like a gross comparison because the current mc receives only a storebought one.
>Chapter 26 now gives a whole different meaning to giving her "Firsts" to him
she has been reduced to a woman who will accept almost any man because she needs a substitute for someone else. she casually gave all her firsts to her ex, and now the current mc gets all the leftovers.
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>>290834674
How badly do you think she'll mentally break if he rejects her lmao
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>>290829807
Then maybe normies are based. Wanting sexually inexperienced girls is judgemental and predatory
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>>290834484
Her being used goods is already chest curdlingly infuriating.
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>>290834736
It's best when both parties are virgins, get married, and stay together for life. Go back
>>>/resetera/
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Didn't MC have a hot childhood friend? Should've chosen her instead.
Also >>290834484
How the fuck can he fix this in 3 chapters?
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>>290827879
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>>290827879
>pic
No woman has ever said this to a man, ever
I like fantasy as any around here, but this is Honda Civic in LotR kind of ridiculous
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>>290832688
>over some used goods
How do we know twintails there is a used goods?
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>>290827879
>>290834026
worth reading? please no shitpost answers
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>>290835314
If used goods is a deal breaker for you, no.
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>>290834958
>How the fuck can he fix this in 3 chapters?
Retconning but it's likely tge writer is gonna do something stupid or thinking full erotica for the final chapters will fix things.
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>>290835351
it's not.
i don't even get why the 30+ year olds here get so up in arms about it like fucking 1 other person makes a girl a slut
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>>290834958
tbf 1 chapter is like 30-40 pages so some stuff still can happen i suppose
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>>290835402
because it does. there is no difference between 1 former partner and 1000, she has already fucked someone else. there is a massive difference between 0 and 1 because you are now forever her first.
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>>290835418
>because yes
can you at least elaborate?
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>>290835418
>because you are now forever her first.
And only.
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>>290835402
Having the heroine be used goods is fine, like the chinese dude posted on twitter, but selling a pure heroine just to subvert expectations in the final chapters feels like a betrayal and it's not just because a dick went inside her, this >>290834674 shows how fucked up the chapter was, could you stay in a relationship after finding out that you're nothing but a replacement for her ex?
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>>290835418
>>290835456
Grow up. Women have sex with better looking guys than you. You should be lucky if even a single mother gives you losers a chance
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That's bait
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>>290835456
>Having the heroine be used goods is fine
Only if you freaking lead with it. Subversive bullshit like this is annoying. No idea the point of the backstory since it pretty much means the heroine is a unforgivable pos.
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>>290835456
oh. that's a shame if so. i thought it'd just be attachment issues from the op.
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>>290833599
That sounds based
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>>290835475
>oh woe is me she had the audacity to... have sex before she met me
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>>290835581
Read again retard.>>290834674
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>>290835581
>unironically supporting pre-relationship cheating
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>>290827879
cuck shit
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>>290835597
Only in native isekai
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>>290835743
Dame Ningen is a reverse native isekai
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>>290830002
Yeah, but we are not talking about marketing here. There is a difference between "this writing decision will stifle sales!" and "I feel personally attacked by this chick not being a virgin."
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>>290835051
>true love
>gives another man her first time
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>>290832907
Yeah and the final chapter was just full on vanilla sex
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>>290834484
>check chinese x
>their disdain for used goods is bigger than the nips
Based west taiwanese.
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>>290827879
blame the guy, he knew what he was getting into. shes atleast better than mizuhara
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>>290827879
>TS/N
i don't really mind this sorta thing with older women, i just hope it doesn't cause the scanlators to ragequit
you can't have an experienced woman that is also a virgin, expecting that is just asking for pain...
anyone wanna dump the chapter? idunno how to get around people already posting the pages like this
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>>290837421
>shes atleast better than mizuhara
Mizuhara is still a virgin, and would most likely remain that way even when her manga ends.
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>>290830497
Well it wasn't by choice. I got raped.
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>>290837421
>kanokari
the bar is in hell
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>>290829755
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>>290832688
I think there is a large number of anons to whom this picture is very cathartic. Shame her traumatic response was to double down.
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>>290837651
That's crazy. Was she cute at the very least?
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>>290837895
Yeah. She was a 10/10 pure virgin. We got married in the end.
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>>290837908
>290837908
Based
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Holy shit this fucking thread.
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When did this used goods/purityfag schizo shit start?
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Personally I'd fuck a prostitute than a chick with an "ex".
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>>290827879
Time to scissor the volumes
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>>290827879
I was about to say something else, because I'm old and I've lost most hope and joy in life. But given the state of the thread and /a/, I change my post into complete endorsement for puritychads.
Go on anons, teach these normoids how's the law around here. Stick to your principles, you know it to be right: reality may turn dirty for some, but the importance of nurturing pure ideals still stands and wins over glorified normalfag coping.
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>>290829829
>I can accept that a girl has had a past relationship, but I can't accept she's second-hand goods
In some countries, or in younger people, having a relationship doesn't automatically imply sex.
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Gaped holes whores...
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>>290834674
wow its just like real life!
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>>290834674
Sad...
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M-Maybe he pushed her away in disgust so she couldn't successfully offer herself.
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Its over
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reading it now, she's a real piece of work.
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>>290838557
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>>290838567
Used goods cope
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>>290832688
This happened to me.
It used to hurt.
It doesn't anymore.
Nothing does. Haha.
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>>290832688
>oh no my lobster is too buttery and my steak is too juicy
do some men really
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>>290838557
>>290838567
Why would you put a manga that reads right to left, as the page on the left to be read first.
Next time don't mess up the order like that.
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>>290827879
These type of threads are always fake. I don't believe for even a second any of you actually care about this, 95% of you will act just like this dude >>290832688 if you ever get a virgin girlfriend
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>>290838831
>leaving a girl that gave her virginity to you
only scum do that
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>>290827879
>NOOOOO THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HER BEING USED GOODS
99.9% of women irl are hoes, why do I have to stand for this in fiction too
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>>290827879
>encourage her loser to follow his dream
>he did and became successful
>NTR his wife and have a divorce
>thanks his daughter for her encouragement and leave
This motherfucker
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>>290838831
I cared about this manga, until this chapter...
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>>290838893
and 4chan users are scum
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>>290838953
Because fiction was created for these stories
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>>290839077
no, 4chan users yearn for pure love
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>>290835402
They did a study on male reactions on female promiscuity and the long and short of it is that there is a direct inverse correlation with a male’s attractiveness and aversion to female promiscuity.

Which makes sense, men who can get laid don’t have to worry about why a woman who sleeps around is fucking them. Conversely men who have trouble attracting women have a reason to be worried about WHY a slutty woman would be willing to sleep with them. While it is possible that she truly finds him attractive, it’s more likely an attempt to gain access to resources, on an evolutionary level. So for a loser man it’s better to find a woman who doesn’t spread their legs as assurance that the attraction is genuine.

This is also why japs and nerd are so obsessed with pure virgin waifus, because they are usually the lowest quality males.
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>>290838966
That is not NTR
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>>290835824
They are attacking a product so the product stops being produced and the author produce a product they like.
You are attacking them with cheap psychology because....
Dunno, because you like non-virginal sex or cuck por or whatever lol
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>>290839075
Nobody believes that, because you can see this chapter comming if you actually read the series
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when the childhood friend showed up i thought ok its a love triangle
>its not
>its a harem including his 30yo sister
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>>290839093
> Chad loves their women filled with the cum of other men
lol
lmao
There is a reason why chad goes for younger women, and is not precisely because he loves them filled with other men cocks
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>>290839090
>no, 4chan users yearn for pure love
No a single 4chan user believes that. We even makes memes about it
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>>290839128
They just like the perkier tits. Real “chads” actually try to avoid virgins as they are really clingy, and not in the fun way.
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>>290839130
you shouldn't be here
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>>290839178
Anon, I'm old. This "pure anon" is some new movement, old 4chan was way worse while talking about sluts and sex. I guess this virgin generation can't understand it
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>>290829755
the funny thing is I don't even know what manga it is
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>>290829933
>bedwetting arc
Damn... picked up
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>they both have shitty parents
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I will keep supporting this manga solely to spite the chinese
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if this 20 years ago, mangaka would be too scared to write shit like this because the otaku would hunt them down and burn them alive
japan has fallen, they're all coward cucks now like the rest of the world
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>>290839123
>>290839314
>>290832688
Im starting to wonder if the author is female? It feels like these pages are demeaning the female characters in a way only a woman would be familiar with. Men having low expectations of them and lying, pretending theyre fine with the women when theyre not, women throwing away and neglecting everything else for the sake of a boyfriend, women getting used and discarded by a man because they were slightly annoying.
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>>290839123
>she's THIRTY
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>>290827879
Gee... Calm down anons, it's not like you get to fuck a fictional character
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>>290827879
Real life is already infested with used goods, we don't need them in fiction too...
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It's not so much about her being used goods, but rather MC just being her literal sloppy seconds because she's still mind broken over her first boyfriend cheating on her
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i wonder what moves the mangaka is even going to let miyabi do in the last chapter
it feels like suseri would be more useful to have around...
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I don't get it. Were there actually people who truly believed that Hizumi was a virgin?
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>>290840126
I did...
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>>290839562
>if this 20 years ago, mangaka would be too scared to write shit like this because the otaku would hunt them down and burn them alive
This was never true
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>People are surprised she's had sex before
Isn't she like, a couple years senior to the MC? And she's constantly elluded to having a sad past she never wanted to talk about. Granted, it could have been any number of things, but it seemed very obvious that it was a previous relationship.

Be honest, if a 10/10 woman were willing to accept you exactly as you are, flaws and all, willing to support you and take care of literally every aspect of your life if you so choose, but she had ONE committed relationship previously where she did have sex, would you still not date her?
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>>290839986
>we don't need them in fiction too...
Fiction disagrees with you
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>>290838831
The fact that the faggot OP didn't even dump the chapter should tell you everything. We always had a chapter dump thread and it was slower than this. Most of the people here don't read the manga and just want to shitpost in this kuso thread, with the attention-whore OP at the forefront.
There is another thread in the catalog like this right now. So you can tell it's just shitposters doing their typical song and dance.
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>>290840161
Yes. I wouldn't.
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>>290839123
Didn't the CF get rejected and move on after one arc?
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>>290840187
I'm pretty sure most of the anons in the dump threads are just waiting for Hizumi's past to be revealed.
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>>290840126
its all implications that shes an experienced woman, but not outright mentioned.
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Man...I wonder how this will wrap up in the last 3 chapters.
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>>290840161
It would be hard to ignore the sense of sadness, regret and misery that the thought would give you every single day.
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>crossdress arc
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>>290840266
And we got that but there is barely any talk about the part with her parents which takes the bulk of the chapter and the one with the most focus. With most of it over a page with barely any new info.
You can tell how sincere some of the posters itt from that.
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>>290840560
OP pic would've overshadowed any other part of the chapter even if this were the dump thread, imo.
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>translator note
Faggot
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>>290840700
At least there would have been discussion about the other parts. And more importantly it would have been a thread for manga readers, not shitposters.
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>>290839195
Maybe in other boards but /a/ has always been pure, to the point of delusion. Anons used to be dead serious in insulting you if you cheated on your waifu.
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I've just read a bit of this, and at least in retrospect it was pretty obvious, or at least likely. The seductive bullying dynamic (well, straight up emotional manipulation sometimes) was just her coping about something.
The "loser" angle was clearly about regaining agency over someone pathetically harmless and naive by gently pushing him down and keeping him harmless and malleable, as if to compensate for something and avoid her insecurities.
There were also clear hints about a past releationship which hurt her.
Then again I don't blame disapponted readers either, since at some point a harem dynamic started to take place (out-of-place with the ever-present "loser" dynamic), making the mood feel more like harmless wish-fullfillment maybe. Whether this was done by the author to lower the readers' guard and make the development hurt more, or to "balance" things out beforehand by throwing a bone to the self-inserters, I'm not sure.
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>ITT: Memri TV
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>>290841372
Silence, used-good slopper: camel urine and my shoe have more dignity than you...
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>>290834484
Haven't read this, can only assume the context based on this thread, but is this going to be one of those situations where they have sex (assuming they haven't already) and either the MC notices blood/pain and she reveals she's actually a virgin after all? Seems like a very easy cop out if the author is actually worried about backlash
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I'm genuinely surprised this even had a pseudo-harem element. The last time I caught up with the story, the MC turned down his CF and she was seen being shauffered away, basically admitting defeat.

I figured she might pop up again once or twice as a friend now that she accepted her loss, but now I'm hearing that his older sister was introduced as a hag girlfailure brocon? That feels very out of place for what was a pretty grounded and tame series.

Surely sales weren't so bad the author felt they needed to start introducing waifus and a false harem, knowing damn well only Hizumi had a chance in hell at winning.
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>>290839986
Yet nobody has a problem with MILFs.
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>>290841614
She didn't even marry the guy and he ain't dead.
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>im gonna draw a manga for total losers who get no pussy
>im gonna make them weigh their options
>im gonna fuck it all up
>you know what just wrap it up
I don't feel the littlest bit sorry for the gooners that read this shit. I actually hope this hooker milked the piss out of cattle like you
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>>290841412
its been implied shes experienced in some things but its never explicitly said what
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>this is getting more shit on /a/ than grapara did
I dropped this awhile back because I got bored of it, but I read it enough to clearly understand she wasn't a virgin, had a messy breakup in the past, and is trying to rebound. Are you anons really this stupid?
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>>290841457
>useless dame ninguen
>but he has a cute cf that wants him regardless
This should have already broken the immersion for any thinking person, but anime fans have become progressively stupid since Love Hina's "you actually had TWO cfs" plot twist.
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>>290841614
2D moms are special.
I wonder if it's the fact that they're always a hotter and somehow even more "innocent" and femminine version of the daughter.
This wouldn't excuse a non-mother character however, so I wonder what is it. Maybe with mothers you're prone to lust them, but you unknowingly do it from a "luck husband" point of view rather than a "self insert into MC" point of view?
But then again everyone loves Oyakodon... but that might be because it's disproportionately in "your" favour anway?
It's worth analyzing this phylosophical matter.
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>>290842071
Nobody expected anything of Grapara!. It was shit from conceptualization, written by a foid who's biggest claim to fame was one cuckshit story, that will never let her foid characters take accountability for making shitty choices that ruin their lives and the lives of those around them.
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>>290834736
>Wanting sexually inexperienced girls is judgemental and predatory
Please be trolling. You sound like a bitch
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>The manga will end with Vol 6
Wut, why do I have a feeling that the protagonists are going to break up before the end?
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The entire reason a loser man would want a virgin is so she won't have a previous guy on her mind while she's with him. This manga is literally a cautionary tale about precisely why you should never be loyal or become attached to used goods, because she's incapable of reciprocating those feelings.
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>took 2 weeks for the juiciest chapter to be translated
I refreshed for so many days
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>>290827879
All of you of course think it would be ok for him not only to have fucked before but probably to have fucked his cf before getting back with the pure virgin he "deserves". You anons are manure.
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Puritycucks...
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>>290827879
Are people really upset by this? It was blatant from the beginning that her complex was a coping mechanism for being mistreated in a prior relationship. I know everyone here is autistic and all, but this is just basic storytelling
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>>290845058
Yea, this is not the series to be upset about Le Used Goods when the premise from the get-go was about a damaged girl coping.
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The only adult women who are virgins are either absolute prudes who hate sex and won't let your dick anywhere near their cunts without resorting to rape, are ugly girls who will make you go blind after seeing them naked, or have overprotective friends and/or family who will cockblock you at every opportunity.
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S: Good day, John Green.
G: Good day to you too, Socrates.
S: Tell me, do you think it matters how many people someone has slept with?
G: No, I do not.
S: Why do you say that?
G: Imagine if I started eating Cheerios for breakfast. Would Cheerios say to me, 'I'm the 48th cereal you've tried eating?! I don't feel special!'?
S: But cereal cannot speak, so the question is nonsensical.
G: But if they could speak, would they say that?
S: It is useless to draw conclusions from a vacuous hypothetical. But, for the sake of the dialectic, let's assume they would not.
G: And can I go into the past and un-eat all those cereals?
S: No, you cannot.
G: Then it follows that I can genuinely enjoy its whole-grain crunch.
S: I do not see how it follows, but I do agree that one may enjoy Cheerios despite having eaten other cereal before.
G: Therefore, it does not matter how many people someone has slept with.
S: This is an interesting argument, but I do not believe it to be valid.
G: Why do you say that?
S: Can you be eating cereal forever, all the time?
G: What do you mean?
S: I mean, when you eat cereal, you become full, and thus have no more desire to eat cereal. Furthermore, when you eat cereal, you have less and less cereal to eat, until you run out of cereal, and thus have no more ability to eat cereal.
G: Then no, you cannot be eating cereal forever.
S: And at best, you can only eat cereal for 30 minutes.
G: Yes. But what has this to do with how many people someone has slept with?
S: Are you familiar with the marriage vows, 'Till death do us part'?
G: Yes, I am familiar.
S: Then is the goal of marriage to end in divorce, or until one of the partners dies?
G: I should say until one of the partners dies.
S: Then is it better for a marriage to last longer, or to last shorter?
G: It is better to last longer.
S: And, if one is married at age 30, and dies at age 80, then a marriage lasts 50 years.
G: That is correct.
S: And could a marriage last longer than 50 years?
G: It is possible
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>>290845847
S: And because it is better for a marriage to last longer, a marriage ought to last longer than 50 years?
G: Correct.
S: And, ideally, a marriage ought to last forever?
G: Yes.
S: Then, if a cereal can only be eaten for at most 30 minutes, while marriage ought to last for at least 50 years, then it follows that one ought to be married to another one million times longer than one can eat cereal.
G: That is true.
S: The inherent brevity of eating cereal is why one can enjoy one kind of cereal today and another kind tomorrow. But a marriage, where one cannot sleep with one person today and another tomorrow, ought to last forever. Therefore, eating different cereal cannot be compared with sleeping with different people.
G: I see now that my analogy is false. But that does not prove that it matters how many people someone has slept with.
S: Would you give me leave to prove it?
G: By all means.
S: Are you married?
G: Yes.
S: Were you the first person your wife has slept with?
G: No, I was the 48th.
S: How would you feel if you found out your wife had slept with 47 other people yesterday?
G: I would feel angry, disgusted and betrayed.
S: And this is because she would have committed adultery, or adulterated, correct?
G: Yes.
S: To be clear, she would have adulterated if she had slept with 47 other people while she was married to you.
G: Correct.
S: But, if she had slept with 47 other people while she was not married to you, she would not have adulterated, but would have fornicated.
G: True.
S: Now, your wife has fornicated with 47 other people, correct?
G: Yes.
S: Now I'm confused, because you would be hurt if your wife had adulterated with 47 other people, yet you seem to not be hurt that your wife has fornicated with 47 other people. Then there must be some difference between adultery and fornication that would make you feel angry, disgusted and betrayed in the former but not in the latter.
G: Correct.
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>>290845892
S: Is the difference in the body? Would adultery have a larger chance of diseases and unwanted pregnancies, compared with fornication?
G: No, I do not think so.
S: Is the difference in the mind? Does adulterating look or sound or feel different from fornicating? Is the memory of the first more permanent than that of the other?
G: No, I do not believe so.
S: Then what is the difference between her having fornicated with 47 other people and her having adulterated with 47 other people?
G: The difference is that in the former she was not married, while in the latter, she was.
S: And so the only difference is the state of being married? In all other respects, fornication and adultery are the same?
G: Yes.
S: So her having adulterated has two parts, the action of having slept with someone who is not you, and the state of being married.
G: I agree.
S: Then why did you marry her? Then she could never have adulterated!
G: But I wanted to marry her.
S: You do not want her to have adulterated, do you?
G: I do not.
S: So you do not want adultery, yet you want the second part of adultery, the state of being married. Then it is the first part of adultery which you do not want.
G: Yes.
S: Then it is not the state of being married which makes you feel angry, disgusted and betrayed, but her having slept with other people.
G: I see.
S: But her having slept with other people is the same in adultery as in fornication, since they are the same in every respect save marriage. Then her having fornicated should also make you feel angry, disgusted and betrayed.
G: That is correct.
S: Therefore, it matters how many people someone has slept with. Simply put, adultery and fornication are wrong for the same reasons, and fidelity and virginity are good for the same reasons, and that one cannot be argued without arguing the other.
G: Yes, I see that now, and I realize I was just coping with the fact that my wife is a slut and that I am a cuckold.
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"Darling, a true lady takes off her dignity with her clothes and does her whorish best. At other times you can be as modest and dignified as your persona requires."

-Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long
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>>290827879
We are all used goods faggot
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Let me guess, female writer?
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>>290845965
Prim and proper on the streets whore in the sheet gap moe
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>>290844244
Nah, I never heard of this manga until today so I can't speak for the average long-term fan, but obviously in ideal world couples woud only be:
>virgin-virgin
>1 fucked - 1 fucked
>2 fucked - 2 fucked
>...
and so on.
Then again clearly purity is more valuable for girls, but maybe you should blame this on women for liking males who fuck a lot, rather than males for liking decent behavior.
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>>290845847
>>290845892
>>290845892
Love this Platonic dialogue
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>>290845773
Not true, my girlfriend was a virgin and a cutie despite not being that young, she simply has a strong conservative personality (despite having an absent father somehow, incredible).
Media tries to demoralize potraying a bleak reality (although people staying alone and not forming relationships is bleak in its own right.
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>>290845847
>>290845892
>>290845925
Lol
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>>290846567
>should blame this on women for liking males who fuck a lot, rather than males for liking decent behavior.
Fucking around and having had a relationship that didn't work are not the same thing.
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>>290846762
>Fucking around and having had a relationship that didn't work are not the same thing.
Ok, but there are also many other possible important reasons to prefer lower body count, such as mutual exclusivity.
And besides this only strenghtens the point, because it makes the difference in male-female tastes much more stark.
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I'm honestly convinced that men care about virginity so much, that the "pedophilia" you see irl (forget the fact most of it is with 14-17 year old girls that are legal in a lot of EU countries) is just high risk high reward tactics to try and avoid being with used goods
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>>290846878
And there is a difference between, "Hm, you switch boyfriends often," and, "You are fucking ruined you whore because you are not a virgin".
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Purityfags are useless in ways she can see from a mile away and no amount of experience can fix. So they dream of a girl so unimaginably ignorant she says things like "This is what a boy's... looks like? And it goes where?".
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>>290829754
beggars can't be choosers
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>>290847164
Yeah okay sure, but people read manga to look for nice things.
That said, in this manga the setup and dynamics made it almost obvious (or likely at least), so I don't get the surprise much.
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>>290847242
You seem obsessed with puritychads instead.
Do you feel lacking and insecure, by any chance?
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>>290834674
why did that bitch broke up with her ex in the first place then?
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>Romance about a man being loved despite being pathetic and having flaws
Too unrealistic, we can't have that. Based female author with the rug pull
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>>290848895
And what changed?
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>>290848954
It changed from male wish fulfillment to female wish fulfillment. But you have a point, the premise is still the same and now it makes the MC even more pathetic
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>>290849104
>and now it makes the MC even more pathetic
Not really. It just puts her on the same level of patheticness so now they can fix each other
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>>290849104
Female wish fulfillment is a mid girl being raped by a billionaire serial killer werewolf.
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>>290829786
>normiedex
>>290834736
>normies
Go back.
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>>290846987
you're right and should keep thinking this
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>>290849700
There are like three or four different actually for women stories running this season alone and none of them have that
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>>290829786
You absolute subhuman cuckscum, simpdex is a cuckcentral with their used goods worship.
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Whore
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>>290835051
>This is what cucks who defend used goods think
I'm not joking
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We love used goods here.
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Lmao all the virgins crying TS is so funny
Girl having experience is good because she will suck your dick without restraint, you don't need to worry about blood, she will be eager to to try some freaky ahh shit with you.

Like my girl went down on me during our first sex and then lick my ahh because her ex liked it and trained her good and it was DIAMONDS, like this shy, modest looking chick was licking my ahh like it's a cake.

Y'all incels are just insecure istg girl not being a virgin doesn't make her dirty
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I haven't been on /a/ for almost a decade and you're still doing the whole purity shit. I could maybe excuse it in a teenager, but I'll bet many of you are 30+ year old men seething about fictional women not being virgins.
It's time to grow the fuck up already.
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>>290851569
>y'all
go back
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>>290849104
No. It changed from being a fantasy for a few concentrated online schizos.
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>>290851569
>>290851576
>This is the kind of subhuman simps who defend used goods whores
Makes sense
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Reading this, it doesn't even look like Hizumi ever loved her ex boyfriend.
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>>290845847
>food analogy
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>>290852434
I mean it's John Green who made the food analogy
in real life too
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>>290852434
There is NOTHING wrong with food analogies.
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>>290851957
You're the one throwing a tantrum on an anime forum about fictional women not being "pure" enough for your delicate sensibilities.
You are the subhuman here.
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>>290852434
>universal experiences are unnaceptable comparison points
ngmi
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>>290827879
>Chinks are angry because shes *not pure*.
Fucking incels dude.
Anyway, the part of the mother blaming her for the divorce is stupid, her psychotic episode after hearing that was also pretty stupid.
Luckily there is a MC and a lesbian friend perceptive enough to fix that.
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>>290851569
>Indirectly kissed a man's ass
Well if she sucked your dick, then you had gay sex by proxy
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>>290851569
>ahh
Embarrassing.
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>This much simpin for used goods.
Is manganese forum banning people or is thus just for (you's)?
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Why would anyone want used goods and realism in their fiction?
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>>290851569
But why would I want another man to do that when I can do that myself? It just sounds like your best argument for sluts is you're lazy, which isn't a great stance.
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>>290852672
>Used goods
They wanna fuck a mile?
>Realism
They're retards addicted to live action but don't wanna go to /tv/ or their biologically female.
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>>290838771
some people like those type of gf, some don't. i personally wouldn't even start a relationship with someone that just agree on principle with everything I say.
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>290851569
>anons fell for it
Tsk tsk.
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>>290852524
>Calls 2 sentences a tantrum
Seems like I struck a nerve there you delicate cuckfaggot
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>>290852591
>incels
Go back.
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>>290829829
You can be in a relationship without having sex, especially for younger people whose first relationships would be when they're still in school.
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>>290841310
I've caught up.
These latest chapters have been nice, actually. Have my brainlet analysis.
I do confirm that the harem thing felt misplaced (at first). The childhood friend intro almost made me want to stop reading: I thought that the harem/NTR-bait made no sense with the premise (cool paneling though), that an arc like this "at most" could be placed only once the MC would have managed to improve. But that was the exact point it seems, in retrospect.
Anyway, as I was saying initially harem dynamics felt out of place with the premise but actually the manga became progressively more fun with that, and the new characters were amusing and had good designs. It became a very amusing and fluffy funny romcom.
Which is part of the "problem": I don't think the author did so maliciously, but this slow change in tone probably falsely lulled the readers in the usual sense of wish-fullfillment, while the seeds of bad things were there from the beginning. The tone was never meant to be this.
But maybe that was necessary: if things simply stayed as they were, the dynamic would have gotten old fast. I think the story needed us to get attached to the characters and their relationship, but the "loser haha" dynamic can only go that far without getting annoying, boring, or spoiling the reveal it was building up until now. So it the manga had to resort to some useful proven ways to make you like characters with no drama: silly fluffiness, sexy comedy, funny jealousy, and so on.
Until it finally had to address the actual story, the hooks and the build up.
Given the topic of the thread: could it have been done without the "used-goods" reveal? Maybe, but the drama wouldn't have worked as much without it: she had to be betrayed to this point in order to sell us this final conflict convincingly. So it had to hurt, but I don't think it happened in a "spiteful" way.
There WERE hints, but maybe it also hurt less since I already knew.
The "I'm sorry" thing was nice btw
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>>290852939
>Given the topic of the thread: could it have been done without the "used-goods" reveal? Maybe, but the drama wouldn't have worked as much without it: she had to be betrayed to this point in order to sell us this final conflict convincingly. So it had to hurt, but I don't think it happened in a "spiteful" way.
You do realize her being betrayer would hurt just as much without her being used goods right?
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>>290834674
>Making the MC as essentially a "substitute" for the ex.
This has happened to me and it sucks
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>>290835469
It is truly tragic how mind broken all the simps who defend non virgin holes are.
Must be the case of having a whore mother who's married to wet blanket father.
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>>290852939
>Given the topic of the thread: could it have been done without the "used-goods" reveal?
Absolutely. Just make the exbf cheating reveal before any sort of intimacy between them, like it was done in other titles.
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>>290853161
Her being used goods doesn't actually seem to add anything to her as a character imo.
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>>290853188
>Her being used goods doesn't actually seem to add anything to her as a character
When has that ever added anything to a character other than make pointless melodrama for women and normalfags?
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>>290853245
>When has that ever added anything to a character other than make pointless melodrama for women and normalfags?
When their explicitly a mother, other times, I can't think of any. Stories with rape don't even wanna think about it long term.
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>>290852939
Aside from the pseudo review I've made of the actual plot in this post, let me clarify my stance on the drama in this thread: I think there's nothing wrong with wanting wish fullfillment with only virgins in it, it's based and normalfags should shut up; however, this manga was never truly meant to be wish-fullfillment beyond the appearances, it just lost track of this fact itself for narrative purposes.
>>290853017
>>290853161
I'm not sure. The fact that she was used to that point makes the reaction to her mother's taunt and all her psychosis feel more grounded, and so is the speech about the "firsts". Wouldn't surprise me if this leads to a "I'm sorry" moment to nail the thing harder.
Also it makes it even more pressing how important to her is to keep him as he is now, given how he doesn't even seem to mind the possibility much well, not more than his usual with everthing), kind of like echoing pic related.
Not sure though. As I said, it might just be that I don't find it annoying because I knew all about it beforehand.
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>>290837908
>Marrying your rapist
I feel so sorry for you anon
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>>290852591
You're a retard.
Also, yes: the mother is to blame for a lot of things.
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>>290830232
Author also said the manga was gonna end in 3 (6 split parts in total) chapters too.
Also confirmed Shinba and Not!Nagi were gonna have an intimate moment.

Twittards seething at the author in his twitter aren't japanese, but SEAturds, chinks, westoids and eurocucks using gemini AI translate to translate their posts and larp as nips. I knew Hizumi not being virgin was expected, there were hints scattered around and author is a Shounen no Abyss fan, so i was expecting this outcome.
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>>290830879
first anal penetration. She'll realize Shinba didn't bring condoms so she'll let him unload his virginal frustrations in her backdoor. And Iwaba tracing panels from himegoto and abyss for that moment
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>>290833596
>Woman author
Male author... Ryou Minenami's simp btw
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>>290837421
Hizumi's literally Nagi, but without being blamed for her famiky's death, neither becoming the showbiz's cum WC.
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>>290840334
3 split chapters (30.1, 30.2, 31.1, 31.2, 32.1 & 32.2)
So they make 6 20 pg long chapters.
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CF should have won and is the best girl as always... ALWAYS GO FOR THE CF
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>>290849219
MC is more pathetic for bekng a virgin.

If somwthing, being a virgin after leaving HS in nipland is the worst insult for women
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>>290853631
Why?
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Nyo...
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>>290853631
>being a virgin after leaving HS in nipland is the worst insult for women
It's more common than you think
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>>290853707
Nah.

Miyabi looks like that K*na bitch from OnK, and i have a grudge against traitorous CF since Chunko. Dame Ningen's one of the few series where i was against the CF
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>>290853643
Because they're vapid whores who lost their purity to Shigeru the fuckboy or Takeshi the horndog, so they cope with the fact that they're worthless by getting mad at the virgin Haruto
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>>290853803
Is 90% of shitting on virgins just coming from people who got fucked by an asshole(likely the same one to boot) so they try and spread misery?
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>>290853844
Nooo. Boys who lost their virginity in late middle school or high school is seen as chads, winners and future natural treasures. If you left HS still being a virgin you are automatically a loser and a laughing stock to women.
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>>290853763
But CF is pure here and didn't betray. She might be a bit abrasive. but her tsun will eventually mellow out...
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>>290853919
What if you lose your virginity during elementary or kindergarten years as a boy (initiated by the boy)
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>>290853707
>>290853620
I also sympatized for her, but she brought this upon herself.
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>>290853951
God's descendant.
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>>290853923
>didn't betray
The chapter where her backstory exposure was shown says the opposite.
She may have slept with old shits during her stay in the USA.
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>>290853844
Yes.
In the 10 years of me spectating foids defend the fact that they're not worthless second hand it's always the ones who didn't stay with the guy who deflowered them.
And the numales who defend second hand women do so to cope with the fact that they're cucks with no backbone, or the two-faced cunts who pretend to be on the foid side to get a crumb of used hole.
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>>290851569
based nigger chad
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>>290853996
nta, but I don't think that was supposed to imply "betrayal".
She was mingling with her peers, but she was shown to be uncomfortable and unhappy with it.
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>>290845892
>No, I was the 48th.
best part of this
>>290845925
>Then it is not the state of being married which makes you feel angry, disgusted and betrayed, but her having slept with other people.
It was perfect until right here but it's funny so whatever.
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>>290854222
But it's perfect until the end, the punchline is great.
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>>290854364
Nah, it takes marriage and her sleeping with others together to lead to anger, disgust, and betrayal. It doesn't work with only one.
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>>290854391
Read it again more slowly, so you can fully internalize the message
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>>290854415
ESL here, what's the message?
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>>290854415
It's a good joke but still just a joke. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news like this.
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>>290853754
Hope it rises higher for the women.
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>>290827879
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>>290855763
You don't have to be a virgin to like virgins.
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>>290855763
>Retarded basedcuck preaching
Just...go back
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>>290827879
>Dame Ningen no Aishikata
>Read manga about explicitly fucked up characters
>Fall for the explicitly fucked up character and start acting like she's meant to be your wish fulfilment waifu
>Get character's backstory and get hit with the reality check that she's not even close to being perfect, as advertised
>Get butthurt by it and start bitching on 4chan about evil normies
>Keep whining, crying and doomsaying about how worthless your former waifu is
>Completely unironically self-cuck yourself by not merely obsessing over fictional character's love life, but by letting fictional character's cheating ex live in your mind rent free
>Rinse and repeat every time a romantic drama manga appears
Like in all seriousness, people here are unironically acting more offended at her having an ex than at her ex being cheating asshole, all while having completely unironic inferiority complex towards him. Seriously enough, I've been here for years and every time it's the same whining of:
>What if she still likes the asshole who cheated on her? What if she would compare me with guy she hates? What if I can't stop thinking about him? What if I can't stop thinking about asshole's cock?
All of these guys are acting as if they were the ones who got railed by a shithead, not the girl.
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I'm starting to think the only way to avoid this sort of fallout is if it's made crystal clear in the first chapter of a heroine's introduction that she's had sex.

Like, literally lay out her status on the table right away if it's anything other than virginal, so the ball is immediately in the reader's court.
>Yes, I'm being very upfront about this. She has had SOME sort of sexual experience at LEAST once. If this is a problem, drop the story now. Don't complain about it later

It makes me wonder how all those
>Slut tempts otaku with sex just to get rejected, which confuses the fuck out of her because she's never been rejected, and in turn, desperately wants to date him now to prove a point or to 'learn what love is'
stories managed to become a niche genre.
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could be worse could be meguro san
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>>290856291
Everything that happened after dream bonus chapter was just a bad sushi induced nightmare.
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>>290856271
They would still bitch about it. In fact, they would actually straight up casually ignore the obvious statement, pretend it wasn't really it and then get sorely disappointed by the reality once it becomes undeniable. Remember, this is the board that gave us the "Walk her home gently" meme.
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>>290827879
This reminds me of the opposite thing that happened in another manga I used to read.
At the beginning of the manga, the FMC was presented as a massive slut with a million boyfriends. Then later, it was revealed that she was actually a virgin and had never had sex with any of them because none of her relationships ever lasted. They literally just couldn’t handle her personality lmao.
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>>290856487
stop talking shit about noa-san behind her back
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>>290856141
>every time it's the same whining of:
>What if she still likes the asshole who cheated on her? What if she would compare me with guy she hates? What if I can't stop thinking about him? What if I can't stop thinking about asshole's cock?
Haven't seen it ITT and stuff like this is written by 5% of spineless simpfags who'll be easily brainwashed by their predecessors into worshipping used goods, just like you, disingenuous cuckroach.
Then there is up to 20% of fence hopping cucks with their "it's not that she's not a virgin/as long as it was in relationships/it would be better if she was but it's still ok/being one would be weirder etc"
And the others are still puritypilled with their disgust (plenty itt btw) towards non virgin trash.
So the majority of negative opinions stems from distaste when the shitty author decides that having used hole as a major character/love interest is anything but trashy writing.
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>>290856601
You know what's the worst part of guys like you? You are ruining the enjoyment of purity for others with your endless whining, spam treats and weird ass fetishes. Purity is a beautiful, lovable thing but you approach it not from love for the purity but from the fear and disgust at the loss of it. You willingly focus trap yourself in the mentality where the things can only rot and never flourish again and keep spewing your self inflicted misery on others.

Purity is great. Purity is good. Purity is something that should be loved and celebrated, not only by itself but a part of the proper, holistic system of moral values. It shouldn't be turned into means of the emotional self harm for the people unable to read basic bitch ass romantic drama without feeling the need to despair about the women being whores and the world being evil.
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>>290856675
Used goods can never be pure and used goods cucks don't enjoy purity, they loathe it.
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>>290856675
>Whining
Says the whining simp
>Threats
...
>Weird fetishes
Which is
>Fear
Kek
>Disgust
Only in a garbage cucktrash with used up love interest
>Focus trap, self inflicted misery
Sounds like projection.
I express my disgust towards shitty writing and go on with my day.
>only rot and never flourish again
The 20% fence hopping cuck mentality (muh just because she's used goods doesn't mean she can't be loved)
>Despair
*Disgust
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>>290832688
The fucking translator notes on this are worse than anything else in the manga. Just shut the fuck up.
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>300+ replies
LoL, I'm interested in the mentality of the ones who defend non-virginal femoid like it's their mothers honor.

What compels them to do it? Is it the feeling of being attacked because their mothers are like this? Betasooya upbringing? The feeling of inadequacy because of inability of being true to themselves? The fact that they couldn't get with a virgin, so they're coping with the reality of having a sloppy seconds foid?
Hmm, curious indeed.
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>>290857091
I don't care because hizumi's not actually my girlfriend
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>>290857091
Virgin or not stop putting pussy on a pedestal.

It's fucking pathetic.
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>>290840463
definitely female author
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She was actually loyal to her partner, what the fuck is up with you losers bashing her? She was cheated on, and didn’t hop on the cock carousel like you’d accuse a hoe of doing. It was obvious from the start she had some sort of troubled relationship based on her behavior. I see a lack of genuineness here. Most of you are shitposters that didn’t even read this manga, you just project hate and insecurities onto others
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>>290857792
>what the fuck is up with you losers bashing her?
She's used goods.
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>>290857792
No amount of your miserable cuckcope will change the fact that she's worthless used goods.
It's THAT simple.
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>>290857792
>It was obvious from the start she had some sort of troubled relationship based on her behavior
Yep, I also like the fan service depending on the manga, but you'd have to be really dense to have thought that someone like Hizumi was a virgin or didn't have at least one ex. I don't know why people are acting so surprised now, they likely didn't even know about the manga until now.
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>>290827879
>used goods
trash
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>>290856535
noa almost hit the spot for me but she's too short and a little too happy go lucky...
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>>290857792
we aren't cucks
>>290840463
nor fags
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retroactive jealousy is spicy and good for romance stories actually
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>>290857792
read it all now and pretty much yeah. It was surprisingly deep thematically and not just regarding Hizumi. If your takeaway is nothing but "used goods blech", you're a fucking idiot.
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>>290857792
>oh no the used goods whore had some bad experiences while becoming a used goods whore
fuck off w*man apologizer
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>>290859625
>fair "maidens" rescued on the internet: ...
>fair "maidens" who rewarded me with sex: ...
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>>290859625
>If your takeaway is nothing but "used goods blech"
But that's all it ultimately boils down to.
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>>290859625
she could've waited until marriage but she didn't
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>>290859642
What are you even babbling about.
>>290859643
It boils down to dysfunctional attachment styles, where they come from and how they affect people in different ways.
>>290859666
And why should that be a deal breaker for a much larger story?
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>>290859690
>why should used goods be a deal breaker
Pretty self explanatory desu.
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>>290859862
Not really unless your only purpose in reading manga is to self-insert for a particular type of fantasy.
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>>290832688
Everyone says they would love to have a smothering gf until they actually have one, mate. They get unbearable pretty fast, especially if you love your independence.

>>290835418
I'd rather be the correct choice than the first fuckup.
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>>290859690
Yawn...
Simpdex is waiting, cuck-kun
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>>290859912
At what point did cuck start meaning something besides spouse of an adulterer?
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>>290835456
Is he? The text seems to imply that while he was that at first, he eventually grew his roots on her in various unique ways. We'll see if it pays off.
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>>290859926
When cucks started spreading their subhuman used goods apologia
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>>290859666
Historically, the Japanese have practiced yobai, not abrahamic religions-style marriage.
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>>290859965
So never. Pop open a dictionary some time.
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>>290832688
>oh no, I have it too good, I need my relationship to challenge me
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>>290860001
Get your head out of that cumdumpster once in while
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>>290860058
Learn what words mean before you start advising anyone else.
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Why is it ok for men to have sex in a prior relationship, but not women?
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>>290860086
Yes.
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>>290845847
>>290845892
>>290845925
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>>290860086
as a conservative, i think both need to stay chaste before marriage
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>>290827879
>yap yap yap
that's all she does. put a dick in it.
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>>290860371
>put a dick in it
Her ex already did.
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i hope we can get to see her nipples
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>>290827879
niggas you knew from the very first chapter that the girl has problems and isn't your ideal mommy gf waifu
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>>290860068
Seethe cuckfaggot
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>>290857792
because wizards are virgins for a reason. instead of self reflecting and maybe trying to improve themselves to find a partner. they rather make up excuses in order to accept why they can't find love. these people don't want to put the effort, and want to be given 10's without the trying. sex happens, get over it. it's not like some of you are actually trying to get laid in the first place.
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What's better, a girl that's had one dedicated boyfriend before you that she really loved, or a girl that's been fucking around a bunch but you're the first relationship she's committed to?
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>>290830826
Yes.
>>290837527
>Mizuhara is still a virgin,
About that, anon-kun...
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>>290861735
What chapter did she lose it?
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>>290840161
>Be honest, if a 10/10 woman were willing to accept you exactly as you are, flaws and all, willing to support you and take care of literally every aspect of your life if you so choose, but she had ONE committed relationship previously where she did have sex, would you still not date her?
Yes. Stop being an incel and accept things as how they come.
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>>290861846
Implied it was off-screen, but Mizuhara not being that innocent about sex, saying in a moment of the Odaiba date she doesn't mind have sex or kiss other actors, because if there aren't feelings involved, then it's not considered cheating, and saying at the "last" rental date that, if she quits the agency, she doesn't mind being a hostess hint at her being experienced.
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>>290845058
This board is full of esls, what did you expect? If they didn't have the media literacy to drop the weird used goods whore on the first words out of her mouth, then they get what they deserve.
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>>290857792
>Most of you are shitposters that didn’t even read this manga, you just project hate and insecurities onto others
That's really what it is. OP eyed a chance to be a faggot and took it. Then retards flocked in because they have nothing better to do.
The sad reality of being a manga fan on /a/.
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>>290857792
OP is incel /r9k/
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>>290857792
>>290861988
Le epic twist is that she's using the MC as a stand in for her previous bf, basically any guy could do. So basically she's a horrible person + used goods.
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>>290832688
not all men, but always a man
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Do you guys think it'd be different if the ex wasn't an ex but a bf that died
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>>290862323
She'd still be used goods.
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>>290862341
So are you in the pro virgin/virgin crowd? Cus if you are, I get it.
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>>290862152
Doesn't help this shit is being wrapped up in 3 more chapters, so this feels more like a rushed plot/intentional subversion or some shit.
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>>290862394
Yes. Anyway, even if the ex died, Shinba would still have been treated as a substitute by Hizumi though her dad's cheating wouldnt be as important or relevant to the reader.
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the only acceptable used good is widows from being left to die by their ex-husbands
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Okay, okay. Is there ANY scenario where a heroine who's had sex is okay? Surely there has to be one acceptable reason.
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>>290862792
When she's in a committed relationship.
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>>290862792
>Is there ANY scenario where a heroine who's had sex is okay?
When it's stated on page 1 chapter 1 she's used goods.
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>>290861988
>>290861967
>>290861120
Retards
>>290862792
When mc/love interest is her one and only
Otherwise it's just cuck cope no matter how they slice it
>Widow/raped/single mother/1 bf "only"
Second hand trash.
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There seems to be mental illness and schizophrenia in this thread.
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>>290863576
true, you have to be severely mentally ill to defend non-virginal filth on /a of all places
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>>290863576
Right.
It truly exposes who are textbook incels resentful at women.
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>>290856675
I more or less agree with this, and I'm among those who think there should be MORE purity in life and in media.
This doesn't mean that you have to let the dirt in society dishearten and demoralize you.
This made my thoughts wander into some barely related schizo metaphorical image, which I will summarize: while wanting to cut for yourself a clean respite corner from all the dirt in the world is understandable (and in part even good, because it reminds and makes you better understand how important purity really is, and makes you realize there's a problem outside), in the end at some point you'll also likely need to be able to get up, sigh loudly, get in the dirt and start shoveling the mud, in order to contribute to build the foundations of a better reality. No one from the outside will clean things for you anyway, because most people "outside" are coping that living in mud is fine and ideal, and won't stop smugly spreading it everywhere.
Is it fair? No. But it's pointless to lament this, and the older you get the more dirt in your special corner will feel hard to ignore and remove anyway. So you might as well steel yourself, stop letting minor things like a manga ruin your mood, and (ideally) start shoveling: you can't expect to build something better without having to face some mud. The silver lining is that you'll still find some unexpectedly immaculate spots by doing so.
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>>290863873
tldr
>you'll still find some unexpectedly immaculate spots by doing so.
not in used goods you won't.
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Threads like this one are why we need to keep purityfags contained in /isekai/ where they belong.
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Where should usedgoodsfags be contained?
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>thing bad and only the mentally ill like it
Sounds like the things that my anti crack shipping and anti polygamy boogieman says.
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>>290860108
I never understood the joke with this picture, is it because he's a cuck or something
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>>290864187
hes sniffing a really good fart
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>>290863980
You got only one possible reading on that line, but the main one is that many have interest in potraying reality as even worse and more usalvageable than it is.
Sauron may use some truth to demoralize you, but he won't show you all the truth.
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Shame there's not a tag for this kind of shlock, "roastie romance" or something of that nature.
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>>290864947
There has to be a word/phrase in Japanese for this phenomenon, right? Or would some writers expect a tank in readership if such a tag existed when they add in that plotline?
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>>290827879
His cock must be really something considering how much dsperate she is...
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>>290865450
No, he just reminded her of daddy.
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>>290865450
the cock of getting abandoned by your whole family, yes
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>>290864947
This series was grotesque. Not because she was used goods, but because it aggrandized her being groomed by a dude way older than her and romanticized her relationship with him. Top 3 angriest I've ever gotten at a manga. Dropped that shit like 5 chapters before it ended.
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>>290860588
You literally entered this thread just to seethe at something you probably haven't even read.
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>>290864947
Misery porn?
Mexican telenovela?
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>>290866114
>it aggrandized her being groomed by a dude way older than her and romanticized her relationship with him.
I don't think that's enough of a reason to get mad. The series never evolved past the hotel chapter. If anything, I think the writing got worse, to the point where it's difficult to get mad at something you're not emotionally attached to.
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damn moebutas got mindbroken by a manga they don't even read
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>>290827879
>Author is a NTRFags
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>>290864947
>meguroslut
My first exposure to turboretarded fagggots defending used goods
Before this I thought it was always only a few simps baiting like ITT
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>>290867225
Why is that majikoi girl there?
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>>290867414
>turboretarded fagggots defending used goods
Why would they defend her anyhow?
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I want Hizumi-san to rape me while telling me how she loves me so much!
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>>290868155
haha...
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>>290867367
You don't know what a true NTR fan is
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>>290868338
Yeah, to be honest I also went into it expecting it to be an epic tweest by an obvious NTR fan, but it had none of the typical trademark specific angst in bad taste.
I also don't understand those saying it's a female author: maybe it is, but it doesn't read as such to me.
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>>290867367
Female authors are THE NTR
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>>290867225
>VN has the token used goods girl
>entire route is about her past/ex
They make it too easy to hate non-virgins.
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>>290868155
Imagine if she precisely described how much of a pathetic loser you are that this is the only way you'll ever have to get this close to a woman, haha...
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Childhood friend will win. Trust the plan.
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>>290870538
Anon nobody believes that, not even she does in her most delusional days.
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>>290869376
>>entire route is about her past/ex
Is that meant to be endearing or?
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>>290867873
>Whore mother and cuck father
>Lost their virginity with a used up hole and coping with it in this way
>Having an inferiority complex because they know/think they couldn't do better
>Mind broken by something into idolizing blown out goods, be it movies/YouShitters/plebbit, like this cucktard
>>290867225 for example
>Becoming more cucked with age like several tards itt
>Simps
>Tourists from other forums with a much higher usedgoodfags population
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>>290867225
sumika on there is just evil, man.
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>>290827879
I'm glad I stopped reading this when they ruined the sister character. I don't understand japs needing to put cuck ntr bait into absolutely fucking everything.
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>>290872519
I stopped around there too, not on purpose just didn't really feel like continuing
Kinda glad I did if this doesn't get retconned as a dream or misunderstanding
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>>290866114
In real life the MC would have got bullied and beaten by guys that considered her their territory. Girls like that are turned into whores.
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I hope the mangaka continues the story with a sequel or R18 pages. I like the characters a lot
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Idgi why is her being a virgin so super good?
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Idgi why is her being used goods so super good?
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>>290827879
World so shit not even losers can make a 100% escapist fantasies without a drawback.
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>>290827879
Wait, you actually thought this crazy bitch was a virgin? Really?
Lmao she even mentioned an ex-bf.
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>>290832688
Can't blame him, girls like that are too overbearing, you start to feel chocked and restricted on everything you do so I don't blame him.
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>>290857792
Not gonna lie, at the start I thought she was a widow or something.
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Black and white thinking is strongly associated with low IQ and mental illness.
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>>290876075
Pretty sure simping for hoes is associated with low iq.
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>>290868155
this
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Threads like this are amazing because they remind you that no matter what happens, /a/ is always there to let you know that there's someone below you lurking around.

I seriously hope none of you faggots is past the age of 30, because otherwise shit's so over it's not even close.
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>>290876475
Yup. 30+ year olds who still defend used goods are quite pathetic.
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>>290876644
>>>/r9k/
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>>290827879
Not reading this shit but I'm curious
>Cute older sister that was an option
>Still choose used goods
Why shouldn't i call him a cuck?
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>>290876883
>still choose used goods
It's realistic and that's what normalfags like.
>Why shouldn't i call him a cuck?
Because everyone does what he does. You should conform to society.
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>>290876136
Pretty sure you felt addressed by that post and assumed it was referring to you and your viewpoint.
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>>290827879
She's fucking crazy huh
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>>290864947
i hope the author of this piece of shit find god
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>>290861872
>incel
Go back.
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>>290861872
>Stop being an incel and accept things as they come.
Nah, I'd take my chances with Chako(former chubster) vs. anything involving "the raped".. Depending on your pov, several characters can be described with this phrase.
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The state of people nowadays towards fictional characters. There people are like
>NOOOOOO HECKIN PROBLEMATIC LIKE RACIST, SEXIST AND HOMOPHOBE IN MY ESCAPISM!!!!
and then there people are like
>NOOOOOOOO USED GOODS IN MY ESCAPISM!!!
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>>290879265
I'm racist against the 4cucks
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>>290879265
Conveniently forgetting:
>NOOOOOO VIRGINS IN MY ESCAPISM?! THEY MUST BE LIKE THE 3DPd WHORES I INTERACT WITH IRL1!!
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The thread is still going? This place is a mental asylum for jitted spiteful little goblins.
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>>290879990
i just want someone to talk about this with and i don't have a mangadex account
all of the public circles i'm in would probably nuke me if they ever realized i unironically like creepy mean women
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>>290876883
>Why shouldn't i call him a cuck?
He wasn't cheated on which is what the word denotes.
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>>290827879
I think she's still a virgin, but mentally used goods and that is just as bad if not worse cause now mc was the second choice.
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>>290861733
Piss or shit?
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>>290880199
Anon, that's literally her in front of her ex.
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>>290880257
Red herring until I see blood on the futon.
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>>290863764
What about
>why are textbook incels resentful at women
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I just don't get why someone would mald over this in a manga equivalent of mexican soap opera instead of reading one of the million manga where an herbivore MC with a personality of wet napkin gets a harem of virgins.
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>>290880041
Based enjoyer.
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>>290880406
based... no. things would just be a lot better if i was as into younger women as my peers
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>>290827879
I am confused. I remember reading a manga with this artstyle, but it's at the part where the mother of the girl doesn't approve of the useless boy.
What the fuck happen here?
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>>290880560
nvm, I completely forgot about chapter 26.
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>>290880790
different useless boy than in the pic
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>can't even escape used good in fiction
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>wanting used goods
>wanting women who are effectively used condoms of other men
do cucks and normalfags really?
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>>290880397
This phenomena really needs a name.
>Person only likes pure virgin heroines
>Reads a more realistic story where heroine has had sex before
>Reader hates it because now she's used goods and worthless in their eyes, whole story ruined
Meanwhile
>Person likes realistic stories
>Reads story where heroine(s) are all virgins and infatuated with MC
>Reader hates it because it comes off as wish fufillment slop to pander to incels or elevate virgins over non-virgins in terms of worth
It's like, you monkeys are reading the wrong stories for what you want out of them.
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>>290880884
>Reads story where heroine(s) are all virgins and infatuated with MC
Not all of them are virgins sometimes.
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>>290880860
You can't reason with these subhumans.
The mental gymnastics they're willing to go through to justify their cuckery is quite amusing though.
But I still can't understand why they come here instead of the dozens of safe spaces for secondhandfaggots.
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>>290880884
the 2nd case never happens
it's always purityfags losing their shit about stuff they're not even target audience of
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>>290880969
>the 2nd case never happens
You can just read mangadex comments and read all the retarded seething about it in harem series.
The first case happens here more because this board is full of purityfags.
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>>290867225
why is Saber there?
>I know how to please a man
retarded h-scene line that doesn't make sense because she is a virgin in her first sex scene.
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Looks like a lot of mangadex and preddit tourists met true puritygods for the first time
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>>290881056
Don't know why they think calling anyone an incel even work in this board.
They are too spineless to use slurs even on an anonymous board, so they just use normalfag's approved insults.
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>She broke up with her ex because he couldn't handle the verbal abuse like MC does
Fine
>Her loose pussy, sloppy blowjobs+paizuri and anus couldn't keep him in check.
Not fine
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Completely passed over this one because it was obvious self-insertion slop for losers. The literal premise is that the MC is a loser.

It is hilarious that the losers who bought in got rug pulled out of their fantasy. Complete losers both in reality and in fiction.
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>>290880250
I mean that's a valid question
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>>290827879
Whore
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>>290827879
Until i see a medical certification of her hymen being broken i won't believe she engaged in actual penetration. This proves nothing.
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>>290838959
uoh
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>>290838966
Mindbreak
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>>290881122
>he couldn't handle the verbal abuse like MC does
Bruh, Hizumi was coddling him 'till he got sick of that. She acted the opposite to how she acts with Shinba. Basicslly a mommy gf who said yes to everything he said.

More like that dude grew a spine and wanted an equal.
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>>290881056
>puritygods
AKA Incels
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>>290834736
Then in that case she's the predatory one for dating a virgin.
If dating virgins is predatory and yet you think it's wrong for virgins to not want used goods, wouldn't that be like thinking pedophilia is wrong, but thinking it's wrong for kids to not want to date adults?
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Lol, god damn you sound like such a fucking loser.

I know you probably can't manage it, but go sleep with a couple woman and calm the fuck down, creep. News flash: you are not normal. The vast majority of people don't follow your childish little rules, and society is working juuuust fine. It is why these series are popular. It is why they fill the front page of r/manga and dozens get written. People like them, because people fuck. A LOT. Men, women, young and old. They are fucking and having multiple partners and enjoying rich and storied lives of love and pleasure while you? You get to be a hypocrit hunting your unicorn.

Tell me, nerd, are you a virgin? If not, why aren't you married to your first partner? If you're not together, is the plan to just be alone forever since now you are disgusting used goods that no woman would ever want because why should they be with a whore like you? You voluntarily are only going to try one time and if it doesnt work are going to politely bow out of dating so all the pure girls don't have to touch your dirty, flattened dick, right?

Right? Or are you just full of shit and don't actually stand for anything but misogynistic bullshit?

"Careful guys! Have too much sex and it's a danger to society, all the women having icky, icky sex withcringes in incel insecurities about other mens dickswith BOYS!!!" Fucking hilarious.

I love watching little misogynists like you seethe at the idea of woman having multiple partners. Bet you don't give 2 fucks about a guy sleeping with 2+ chicks, but since your selfish, stupid ass can't fathom other people not giving a shit about your weirdo, prudish bullshit, you come piss and cry about them ending society in the comments of a freaking manga.
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Listen loser, lemme tell you something cool: sleeping with multiple women? It kicks ass. Had multiple partners, had plenty of consensual fun and affection and pleasure and friendship and love and all kinds of positive emotions with woman that have DEFINITELY had more partners than me, and becauss I am normal I don't freak out like Ingot kooties from them because I'm too busy thinking about the woman I am touching. You? You're just a creep that can't handle women choosing someone that isn't you.
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>>290882413
>>290882425
Wtf is this blownoutgoods faggot melty
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>>290882476
it does sorta read as chat-jipitty-generated
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>>290882476
>>290882490
these paragraphs might just be copy-pasted from twitter or mangadex.
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>>290827879
Had a girl more or less like this (more about fear of being abandoned like daddy did than actual partner sabotage). Couldn't fix her.
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>>290882580
you made me check... the comment section on mangadex is also approaching 100 comments, i guess outrage really does drive engagement...
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>>290882647
everything is about outrages nowadays.
This is probably why you see many retarded normalfags posting their shit here for (you)
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>>290882413
>>290882425
I know this is an obvious shitpost but you would've had to have been brainwashed if you think like this
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>>290881030
I assume because Merlin made her temporarily grow a huge cock to impregnate her wife.
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>>290883289
That line existed before this merlin magic dick got canonized.
It's just Takechi being shit at writing sex dialogues.
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>>290883428
No, I mean the weird thing of magically fucking a woman with a penis caused her inclusion in the picture, as a cheeky joke
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It's kind of weird having a different opinion for once, but this other side still feels so unpleasant that it's hard to post strongly in favor of this opinion.
Polarization in the modern internet (and real life) is a bother.
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>>290834484
Sounds like the mangaka will cuck out in the end. I'm not a purityfag, but isn't this a little silly? It's not like she's a turbo slut, she dated 1 (ONE) guy before the MC. She's also basically the MC's slave despite insulting him constantly. TWO other women also lust after the MC and cuck her out of his affection constantly.
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>>290883709
>I'm not a purityfag, but isn't this a little silly?
No, you daft retard. Shoulda been completely upfront at the start so people could avoid or enjoy the series with min bitching.
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>>290838959
A chad papa would have rape corrected this brat right there
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>>290838966
Her mother almost entirely brought this on her (on them) though: if the sexes were reversed, this would be the usual story of the secluded housewife innocently trying to stand on her own legs, but being selfishly pushed down by her overcontrolling absent husband (except in those cases the housewife is depicted as 100% in the right). This was an interesting unusual twist on it.
I wonder if we will ever see the source of her mother's issues, since she's clearly a main root source of Hizumi's.
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>>290829933
>the way a loser loves
>bedwetting arc
Where did Japanese fiction go astray
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>>290883709
one is all it takes to become used goods
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>>290883789
I mean, even outside of women, that is the definition of used goods. Having a previous user/owner/whatever.
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>>290883709
I am a purityfag usually, but this is a bit silly. Cucking out at this point and specifying:
>"nooo guys, she's actually still a virgin haha!"
would feel very contrived.
>>290883736
But it was obvious that she had huge problems from the beginning, the kind that also seem to scream "past relationship". And it was also confirmed quite early that she had a past relationship ended badly, amd that intimacy was a dodgy territory.
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>>290883833
>retconned goods
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>>290883877
we're approaching "it's gay to like women" levels of complete faggotry here
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>>290883877
Retconning is better than proceeding in many instances. A lot of stories would be better if certain things were retconned.
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>>290883783
Illiterate.
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>>290830688
>[Laughs in Kimizero]
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>>290884340
I can understand this series because the premise is entirely based on used-good, but what is with the fucking cock-block for the MC?
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Only read the first posts of the thread for now
Initially I didn't think much of it at first, but thinking about it, does Hizumi even like MC? It feels more she has abandonment issues and she would "like" anyone who doesn't abandon her. What sets MC and her ex apart is only that he's not giving up on her even when he's getting more independent. But what part of MC does she truly like? Feels it could be anyone really. Well I guess the same goes with most "he's a nice guy" main character but..
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>>290884612
shinba marvel movie fixation sorta reminds hizumi of her father's fixation on dungeons and dragons
shinba is also much more of a frequent apologizer, playing into the double meaning of "i'm sorry" that hizumi got taught by her father
on top of all that he's just really considerate and will take notes on things hizumi says like weeks beforehand
it's like 70% shit that hizumi got mindfucked on because of her father and 30% shinba's efforts to be worthy of her
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>>290884819
>dungeons and dragons
Freak trivia: D&G was produced by Marvel Productions. So it's related somehow.

Maybe Iwaba was aware of the connection.
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>>290884819
Hizumi shoulf just believe what Ahinba says. It will be her salvation.

Funny bc Hizumi is literally deep down pg16 picrel
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Bump limit at last.
Someone help me to reach eternal happiness pls.
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I wonder if dump anon will bake when the new chapters are released.
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>>290883709
1 is dumb to meltdown about. If it was 3+, then the retards might have a point.
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>>290886907
Used goods is used goods, doesnt matter if her body count is 1 or 20.
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>>290886955
It absolutely matters. Used goods doesn't mean shit. Being a loose slut is the problem.
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>>290886992
In the end she is used goods, slut or not.
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>>290887145
Literally what other reason is there to care?
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Imagine if Hizumi is a virgin all along hahaha...
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>>290887597
It'd fixed the used goods talk. The used good shit really overshadow everything else especially her senpai shit.
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>>290887768
> senpai shit
Family shit, fuck I'm out of it. Her family issues were overshadowed to the point it's not even looked at.



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