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Next batch will feature our protagonist Tser in a constant humiliation ritual encountering different members of the spider and watching himself die over and over again
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need more gon chappys
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>>290847423
fpbp
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hunter x hunter sex with machi
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HISOKA ARGH
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>>290847335
So what happens when Tser actually gets strong? Is he going to watch on the sidelines while his clone kicks everyone's ass with STRONG NEN?
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>>290847943
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hunter x hunter sex with robert in his tight boy hole
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Tserri will further develop his ability and RAPE a troupe member on page to assert his dominance and villainy.
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>>290847335
I was thinking of replying to the retarded bait thread but I just can't, do I have WEAK NEN?
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>>290848953
>villany
>rape
seek help
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>>290847672
You’ve been slacking lately bro get back on shits
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>>290848962
You need to train your Ten more
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>>290849000
BTFO by tserriednich and his vileness.
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>>290848953
He will probably run into bonolonev, the troupe will figure out who he is, and they will use him as leverage while simultaneously also training him.
From there who knows what the fuck Togashi is concocting.
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>>290848953
yo yo where all the rape wimin at?
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Many of you are interested in Hisoka
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>>290848953
tserri getting raped by machi would be funny
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Pitou sex
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>>290849379
nyagreed
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>>290849402
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>>290825625
Watchparty will start tomorrow at 5pm EDT, I will stream the first 3 episodes here https://cytuDOTbe/r/hxh1999watchparty and see how it goes.
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>>290849741
no. you are straight and a cuck
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>>290849026
t.
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>>290849911
would bisky find wing attractive. he's pretty fit. bet he looks nice with his shirt off
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This is my favorite kids series. My middle schoolers love it!
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>>290849741
I am not clicking that shit motherfucker
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>>290846570
>Those visions are just visions. They never technically happen. Or, if they do, the Devil is teleporting around at light speed because what Tse is seeing is all happening in real time in an instant.
The only known position of the beast is when Theta sees its creation which doesn't put it in the place Hisoka would be looking at. Tserriednich thinks it's at the top of this illusion sphere but he doesn't know anymore than we do. And if it's POV is indicative of where it's at then it does have the ability to move around. Really the double slit theory just assumes it stayed stationary in one spot and that it can be detected which immediately makes the ability worthless.

The bungee web theory is consistent with how Hisoka operates and explains everything.
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>>290850043
Are you stupid? You do know she trained him right? She called him a retarded, dorky kid.
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>>290847335
Theta looking at Tserri:
>She's drawn with a huge ugly blocky SCHNOZ
Hisoka looks at Tserri a few chapters later:
>He's drawn beautifully, with meticulous detail down to his delicate eyelashes
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>>290850925
I'm trying my best. I'm just a girl
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>>290851460
post STRONG NEN or gtfo
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>>290851460
Post dick NOW
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Thread so gay and retarded even the hate thread mogs it
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Unironically how do I get as fast as Hisoka?
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>>290852352
Reflect on what you've learned so far anon, I believe in you.
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>>290852352
Become a pedo
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>>290852451
i don't trust a bisky cock slut that she immediately abandoned for prime killua bus
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>>290852352
by running away from Hisoka trying to grab your ass (literally)
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O my darling
O My darling
O MY DARRRLINNNG Machitine
You are lost and gone forever dreadful sorry Machitine, she wears sandals number nine
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Time for some MULTIPLICATION
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>>290852507
Are you still going to ship them after Hisoka kills Machi and takes trophy pics?
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>>290852507
hisoka would never date a foid
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>>290852490
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>>290852594
nta but yea
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>>290852522
4πr2
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>>290850922
>The bungee web theory is consistent with how Hisoka operates and explains everything.

I disagree because it doesn't really explain why Hisoka walked away. He should have carded the web position if for nothing more than to diagnose if Tse was ripe fruit <3 or a growing plant <>.

Hisoka losing interest is very out of character.
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>>290849741
thank you

>>290849776
fuck you

>>290850895
>tourist doesnt recognize cytube
fuck you
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>>290852858
Neither theory explains why he walked away. If he suspected someone was observing him and saw the eyes of the beast he would investigate. If he saw something wrong with the placement of a strand of bungee gum that is also worth investigating.

My best guess is that while under the influence of the illusion. People noticing discrepancies get some kind of mental override. Basically a sudden suggestion that there isn't anything wrong afterall. This works for both theories btw.
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>>290852858
hisoka likes people who worked for their strength, thats the common theme between the princes and ants who inherited theirs. i do wonder if he'd even bother grooming people now, because of his whole reaction to being so "submissive", that it let chrollo kill him in an unsatisfying way
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>gum web theory
>double slut theory
>reflection ceiling theory
>nen beast is visible
Are there more theories?
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>>290852934
No, that’s dumb. Here’s a better theory. Hisoka tricked Tse, making him think he lost interest in him by walking away, when actually Hisoka is secretly following Tse using the bungee gum strand that’s stuck to him. At some point Hisoka is going to jump out of the shadows and rape him.
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>>290853230
Mmm why? He already says he is not interested in the princes
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>>290852974
Hisoka is canonically a coward who specifically targets weaker people and murders them for no reason btw.
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>>290849142
Bonolonev got offscreened by hisoka 30 chapters ago
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NEN GUM
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>>290847335
I wouldn't mind that.
Seeing Tser play around with his hatsu is fun.
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>>290853179
Hisoka sensed strong nen above him, and then sensed another strong nen behind Tserriednich.
It just coincidentally seemed like Hisoka was looking at Laplace and Tserriednich.
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>>290852858
Hisoka can enjoy a bit of courtship and foreplay to build anticipation, but fighting someone like Tserriednich is just blueballing.
He's vanilla, by his own admission. Orgasm denial is too kinky for him.
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Why the fuck does Shizuku have more actual story presence than half the supposed original members? If Togashi's killing someone, kill HER. Wasting Bono for another fucking Kortopi tier death is pure NPC disposal
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>>290853254
That was before a prince managed to get one over on him.
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>>290853432
>
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>>290853870
Shizuku has little to no story presence. She solely stands out because of her indifference.
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>>290853870
Bono isn't an og troupe member either
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>>290853870
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>>290853973
She had her moment arc after arc, Now let's do Franklin...wait,bro's been a background prop since 1999
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>>290853870
togashi is a simp
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>>290852858
You are idiots, the fact he walked away supports the bungee web theory, he detected something unrelated to Tserri and went to investigate.
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>>290854001
Still to early for him to die especially by the retarded clown
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>tfw that post about Tserrie's ability being the ultimate cuck ability became real because the 10 seconds limitation for the illusion is now gone
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Togashi is drawing Hisoka in a cuter way this arc, so that we feel bad for him when
>when Tserri takes revenge once Hisoka is weakened from killing Chrollo
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>Hisoka fucks off the boat to help Gon and Killua find the baby
How mad would you be?
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>>290853179
There is the Chad theory that Hisoka just knows
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>>290854367
i would be happy because it brings us closer to the chapter where killua and gon finally fuck
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>>290854201
Machi will kill Hisoka
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>>290854201
I love Hisoka and I want him to die at some point actually. While I highly doubt he will I want to see how that would effect the 4 protags, almost all of them have had an endearing moment with Hisoka.
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>>290854399
she is a woman.
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>>290854201
Machi will rip that cuteness right off of his fake face
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>>290854367
And how would he do that?
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>>290854201
I can see it, except I think they will have a "proper match". It would parallel the Netero and Mereum fight with Hisoka as the Netero in this case. I also think that Tserriednich will take his head as a trophy/art piece, and eventually it'll get stolen by whats left of the spiders.
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>>290854513
pedophiles have a radar in their penis to find babies
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>BUNGEE WEB
What a fucking dumb theory
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>>290854621
ok dumb rat how are you impregnating wobble?
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>>290854635
Clownbro...
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>>290853972
Husband and wife
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>>290854713
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>>290847335
What did he see?
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>>290854874
nen beast goatse
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>>290854874
The piss stain on Tserri's pants
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>>290854874
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>>290855347
damn gon got that dumpy
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I pray on long cold nights that Machi will die so the fags here can stop spamming her name
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>>290855389
That didn't stop pitoufriends
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>>290854874
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>>290855412
He ditched Tserri for a man with some REAL potential
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>>290855389
this but i hope the straighttards die
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HISOKA you stupid FUCK the babys got diaper rash
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>>290850778
This is a soft seinen manga
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>>290855611
*pulls rash colored texture surprise off baby while maintaining eye contact with Machi*
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I'm just waiting around for tweets
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>>290854621
Yeah. Because Hisoka has never made a series of strands of bungee gum in his environment or attached it to people to setup future attacks or facilitate him moving around the environment. Not once in the entire series.
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How many hours to next chapter?
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They entered...but they never left
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goo goo gah gah <3
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>>290850922
>The only known position of the beast is when Theta sees its creation, which doesn't put it in the place Hisoka would be looking at.
Actually, the double slit works with this too. Theta can see the eyes in front of her, looking at Tse through the doorway. The Eyes appear where the first shot of Tse is made.

If you look at where the vision is first made in this instance, it's perfectly angled so the eyes are on the right-hand side of the coffin, looking through the doorway.

(if you look closely at the image you can see the double slit eyes)
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Is Gyro on the ship?
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>>290856812
>Gyro
No, they only sell tacos
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Hunterbros...
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>>290856790
kek the little eyes
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>>290856509
>retarded baby sounds
I blame Chrollo for this
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>>290857380
he had no blood flow to his brain for like half an hour. he's probably extra tarded now
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>>290856790
According to you. Theta spent 40+ minutes painstakingly staring at Tserriednich and keeping an eye out for his Guardian Spirit but didn't notice the double slits until the current batch. While the creature would be within the perception altering field and not even on top of it given your current theorized placement of the beast?

>(if you look closely at the image you can see the double slit eyes)
If you want to photoshop them in sure. I can see them. Otherwise that detail is not on any version of the page available to us.
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>>290848953
>>290853870
Shizuku is prime Tserrienich victim material.
Kalluto can definitely live because his one-sided sibling rivalry with Alluka and his dynamic with Illumi is cute. Also his paper ability directly counters Laplace's Demon in multiple ways.
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>>290853870
Because Togashi knows that her design is pure sex. Why did you think that Togashi made her fight the Chimera Spider that forced her to take off all her clothes? That was fan service for the audience.
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>>290857528
Tse would get raped by a nenless Shizuku.
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>>290857324
threadsplitting doesn't work during hiatus
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braap
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>>290854874
emitted nen beasts
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>>290857430
Ok so this is where laplace and double slit theory kinda overlap. The Eyes only become visible after the Illusion Tse's death because that signifies the Death of The Internal Observer. This is because there is no longer a Tserriednich's perspective in that simulated reality.
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>>290857593
>This is because there is no longer a Tserriednich's perspective in that simulated reality.
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>>290857559
Machi should be next
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sexo?
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THE GROUND QUAKES
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>>290853870
>Shizuku have more actual story presence than half the supposed original members?
Shizu's vacuum has more characterization than Nobunaga, kek
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>>290857727
Yes breed retards
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>>290857593
>This is because there is no longer a Tserriednich's perspective in that simulated reality.
The creature is observing a possible future. His POV is not required nor implied to matter. If he's dead instantly within any ephemeral 10 seconds, he's just dead and any visions he initiates will just show that. The double slit theory just falls apart. if the beast arbitrarily becomes visible then it's worthless as an ability. The reason two people looked in his direction will boil down to two different answers because the latter case has an answer consistent with Hisoka's abilities and tendencies, and Theta has her own reasons for staring in his directions which could amount to coincidence. But she has a mark on her face that would at least tell her and Salkov that Tserriednich is still alive.
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>>290857739
he's already lost he just doesn't know it yet
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Nen.... strong.....
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>>290857528
shizuku may impress tserriednich with her nen, because she's a simpleton otherwise. and yes kalluto must survive, i dont want illumi to turn him into an ai host like alluka but damn now i think thats too likely

>>290857564
after an upgrade, tse may be able to handle melee fighters like her, question is what's shizuku's "ace in the hole" technique
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>>290857727
Would use her booger as lube
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Hisoka is at his best when he's acting kind of normal or helping out his friends
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>>290857802
>The creature is observing a possible future.
Well, this isn't how the Deterministic Philosophy behind Laplace's demon works. Tse's Devil observes a "Present State," specifies it as a "Definite State", then extrapolates a deterministic future that follows that state.

>His POV is not required, nor implied to matter.
See, that is another misunderstanding of Laplace's Demon. The future Tse's Devil is predicting isn't a general simulation of the universe. The Devil Simulates Tse's future. That's why he is always the center of the observation.

>if the beast arbitrarily becomes visible then it's worthless as an ability.
Not necessarily; Tse needs to stop dying every 5 mins.
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>>290857946
funniest ending for him would be if he gets some kind of traumatic experience this arc that breaks part of him and he's like "man...this murder clown life is fucking stupid, I'm going back to the motherland to become a dairy farmer like mother always said" and is never heard from again
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>>290857967
>this isn't how the Deterministic Philosophy behind Laplace's demon works
He's seeing the future regardless of the semantics. That's literally the point of the thought experiment, a creature with that information would be able to know the future position of every particle in the universe would know the past and future as well as the present. It is a possible future because he also cannot pre-program actions into the illusion which would inevitably change things if they were included. Instead he only gets a future based on his last state and actions.
>That's why he is always the center of the observation.
Observing his position does not mean his POV is required. If he had closed his eyes while the kakin military were still fighting his illusion self, he'd just have observed a corpse of himself or his present position with guards in his area.
>Not necessarily; Tse needs to stop dying every 5 mins.
if his illusion death is all it takes to make his beast start dropping it's manipulation. Then it's a shit ability because not even he would subconsciously make this happen. Much less would nen require his ability to have this weakness. That's like saying if someone touches Meleron while Perfect Plan is active, his power should let someone detect his presence.
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>>290857866
Strong Specialist nen?
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>>290854621
...literally did that shit to kastro, stuck his arm into the ceiling too. You retards should brush up on the series before commenting stupid shit
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>>290857967
Your arguing with circular logic. The anon you're responding to is correct, the LD beast is simulating the most probabilistic liekly future of Tse but still a possibility. It is force fed to everyone inside LD domain as a vision (which is why everyone is dumbfounded as to what's going on, they're literally chasing shadows) and to Tse instantaneously (when an outsider observes what's going on) which allows Tse to change his actions to avoid that most-likely 10 second future from happening. That's what's actually happening. By definition it cannot be deterministic because then Tse could not change the outcome (think the movie Tenet and how the characters had to operate under a strict timeline of events that cannot be changed, only followed).
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>>290858486
And to add to this, HxH has explicitly stated that the future is not deterministic and a character's fate/future is not set in stone. Neon's fortunes weren't 100% guaranteed back in Yorknew
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>>290857992
that's entirely possible, he'd just be diegomaxxing
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>>290847335
It makes no sense for some random punks from trash city to be able to master nen better than the literal authority of nen in their world.
Hisoka is understandable because he's fightsexual, but the spiders?
>MUH STEAL
My ass
Even Chrollo shouldn't be able to be that strong or fast. Zeno or Silva should be able to low diff him.
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>>290850925
>she trained him
proof?
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>>290847335
Now presenting Hisoka's patented Bungee Vision
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>>290852352
Unironically ten and ren every day.
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>>290858626
its simple, all the best hunters are eccentric to crazy because their extreme experiences made them so, this allows them to use nen more effectively because they're more in-tune with their desires, or what they want to "hunt' as it were. there's always a mix of genetics at play, but chrollo's got a strong desire born out of his lack of self, to avenge sarasa, and putting himself in a number of dangerous situations with his friends' lives on the line, so he can tap into nen pretty well
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>>290858127
>He's seeing the future regardless of the semantics.
that's true I don't want to get into semantics. Alot of people think the Devil is doing mind-control stuff and picking through future timelines

>Observing his position does not mean his POV is required.
I agree, but that's not really what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that the predicted version of Tse is still part of the system being "modeled", but the Real Tse keeps moving. Let me reframe it in less abstract terms like this:

The illusion can hide the Devil only according to the future the Devil predicted. Once the predicted Tse dies, that future contains no further movements for him. The real Tse survives and keeps moving, so when the Devil's eyes follow him, they move outside the camouflage encoded into the prediction. That's why only the eyes become visible: they're the part of the Devil actively tracking something that, according to its own illusion, should no longer exist.
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>>290858486
Yes but the clever part of Tse abiltiy is that one part is prediction and the other part is a forced illusion. What happens inside the illusion is actually deterministic to the prediction because everyone inside is affected by the illusion.
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>>290858670
>and putting himself in a number of dangerous situations
Most top hunters do. Especially crime hunters.
Hell, Zoldycks even do it everyday. It doesn't make sense for top two strongest Zoldycks to not be able to solo him.
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>>290852634
He asked Machi out
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>>290857899
Boogers are solid. You mean snot/mucus
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>>290852352
I don't think humans of our world can ever move that fast because our nen is straight pitiful compared to them. The strongest nen users on earth right now might have aura that is 1 milimeter thick. You can legit get pretty amazing reaction speed with ren training though. Our eyes are the only things that scale to hxh verse
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>All Might ripoff
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Who are the other two?
Second one must be Pariston
The other is Netero himself
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Wow he's literally me
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>>290858742
i mentioned that because that's how chrollo would've gotten stronger, otherwise i think it has a lot to do with personality and genetics. also zeno and silva had him on guard the entire time, they probably would've killed him at the risk of one of them dying, and only stopped because their clients died. that in of itself merits some questions about their professionalism, but that aside, they as assassins are also risk-averse and stopped because of that.

>>290858981
bisky is gemmy
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>>290858626
it's all about innate talent
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>>290858674
The stuff about the eyes no longer being hidden is cool and all but it doesn't explain much. It doesn't explain why Hisoka looked down and then looked up. It doesn't explain why people can't see the eyes the second Tserri diverges from Fake Tserri
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why did Hisoka walk away?
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>>290854201
Story beats at the moment point to Hisoka helping him.
Tse is in a pickle with no escape route. Hisoka noticed "something" during their encounter.
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>>290859216
Tse cheated
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>>290859216
Bonerlove was in the vicinity and probably made a move while Tse was distracting him. It's all misdirection.
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>>290857739
>>290857806
>>290857866
>>290858243
oh my god, who keeps making these awful thumbnails?
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>>290854201
>>290854532
Did you start reading this manga this year? He didn't draw him cuter. Hisoka is a bishie and always has been. He doesn't look like that most of the time because of his clown style.
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>>290858638
I fucked your mom so hard her pussy started talking and told me, faggot.
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>>290859710
NewWorldReview
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i wish i were a kastro-level nen user in hxh world so that hisoka could play with me for a while and humiliate me, then id suck his victorious clown cock after conceding defeat before he ends me like in that snuff video with the chink jacking off moments before being decapitated
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>>290860018
shut up tserri
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>>290860018
illumi..
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>>290848953
His combat skill is actually pretty low by hxh standard though.
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>>290860283
He knows Gyo, if he manages to get the Zetsu timing to a second or less, and his Gyo is just as fast, he will be able to beat the lower level troupe members for sure.
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>>290858674
>The real Tse survives and keeps moving, so when the Devil's eyes follow him, they move outside the camouflage encoded into the prediction
There's no reason it's camouflage should drop just because illusion Tserriednich is dead. That's like saying that the real tserriednich should also become visible once his fake has perished. The entire field inhibits people's ability to perceive it and real Tserriednich. The fake's actions are just treated as a result of the initial prediction whether it lives or dies.

Salkov was in the area for hours with a "dead" Tserriednich but despite people calling him a brainlet. He isn't shown to be so dumb that this double slit would have been unnoticed by him. Especially at the height of his paranoia as he's depositing a thing he knows to be an illusory corpse.
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leak when?
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>>290861215
i didnt need to see this
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>>290861475
It is your mission rihan bro
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>>290861083
it always bothered me that her thighs aren't thicker
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>>290861083
>Ore wa Sūpā Biscuito
she will job to rihan
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>>290859216
>this isn't a Spider
>there's some weird ability at work here
>am I interested...?
>nah
>got bigger fish to fry
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I miss HxH
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Reminder that HxH would’ve ended 10 years ago if Togashi had never gone on any hiatuses.
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Reminder that Togashi would've been dead 10 years ago if Togashi had never gone on any hiatuses.
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>>290862007
Who cares?
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>>290862007
He can just every page with white background and texts.
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>>290849741
will be waiting
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>>290860018
the ultimate white cvck experience chrollo will finally make cracker genocide real
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What killed the hype?
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>>290862559
We waited two years for Kurapika yapping and literal filler. Everyone’s disappointed. This manga is holding on by a thread.
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>>290862687
Speak for yourself fagote i ejaculated buckets each chapter this batch
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>>290858883
This may eats hair the way hinrigh eats oysters
I'm sure this has already been stated, but what's the point of a weakness-analyzing ability if it requires you to squander a surefire sneak attack collecting hair.
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>>290862916
it was his hobby
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>>290856447
Madwig is my favorite netero
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what would happen to Hisoka's current body if he was forced into Zetsu?
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>>290863014
His face and arm would start falling off in clumps like accelerated leprosy.
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>>290863014
>>290863278
You realize Hisoka could’ve gotten prosthetics, right?
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>>290862007
but hxh would have been finished
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another 2 year wait is now dawning on me
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>>290863447
What would be the point of doing that at all after refusing to let machi just heal his body to normal?
He's cocky and wants to live on the edge, it seems more likely he's intentionally hindering himself for the thrill, or as an extra risk to boost his power.
Or just because he's a freak and wants to keep his injuries as a gift from his beloved chrollo.
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>>290863014
Nothing? Zetsu doesnt cancel an ability, it only stops your nodes from emitting aura, which isnt necessarily going to cancel your nen ability unless it's some low IQ technique like Gon's.
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>>290863638
He didn’t want to be indebted to someone he planned to betray.
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>>290863775
He was a prepaying customer
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>>290863682
Yeah, that’s not true at all, speedy. Most nen abilities require the user to be producing aura in order to remain active. Bungee Gum is one such ability.
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>>290861520
beats rihan
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>>290863630
it probably won't be that long this time, but when chapter 430 releases im expecting a big one
I'll probably give up hope if more tweet updates don't come by the end of september
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Predict how Togashi will troll fujos in the next batch
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kill until the hiatus ends
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>>290864057
Do you really think we'll have new chapter by December? You're setting the bar way to high
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>>290864804
I'm not taking any guesses right now, just waiting to see if any updates are posted for those last 3 chapters of next batch, after that its in WSJs hands
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Does anyone else think they made Cheetu too lust-provoking?
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>>290864896
Who is they?
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>>290864972
You know, the people trying to turn us all into gay furries.
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>>290854001
>Bono isn't an og troupe member either
What is this competition about who was there first? who cares? there is no ranking, you are not better just cause you were a day one
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>>290864896
>>290865023
Just you bro
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>>290862916
Sneak attack is the lowest IQ way to use it. You can theoretically just go into a room or place you know your target frequents and obtain his hair from there, similar to what they do for DNA tests on hair.
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>>290854621
Yeah bungee vision is better
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Holy shit guys I just realized

>Grand scale game on boat between kings, slaves and citizens
>Morena's card game
Restricted rock paper scissor game & E-Card
>Hisoka playing the BOG
Pachinko arc
>Brave men road (Balancing act arc)
Tse trying to get out of tier 1 (he has to cross that tiny beam to get off the tier 1 ship)

Am I reaching? Does that mean that there is a mahjong arc incoming? Might be between the maffia leaders.
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>>290865186
ok but why did paku only shoot the og members
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>>290858626
It makes perfect sense. Tough times create strong people. There is a reason Killua was always ahead of Gon.
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>>290865863
What a disgusting ugly witch
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>>290865819
>tse catches some of morena's goons
salvation game right here kek
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swamp man is coming
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>>290866137
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>>290866090
ok now this would be hilarious but i think im fine with more references to fukumoto
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>>290866087
Fat retard
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>>290866160
>>290866137
cute
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>>290856790
>bro put two slits in the pic
lmao
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hate sex with cheadle. beating the absolute shit out of her while getting her dog pregnant
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I suppose all the hunterchads are busy with their teaching jobs today
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>>290860850
>There's no reason it's camouflage should drop just because Illusion Tserriednich is dead.
I agree; if there is a weakness in the double-slit theory, it's that there is no real mechanism for "how" the illusion starts to fail nen wise. I cannot derive the exact nen rule that causes the camouflage failure.

>That's like saying that the real tserriednich should also become visible once his fake has perished.
Well, this is something the double-slit theory exists specifically to explain. The Devil's eyes follow the real Tserriednich. He is the center of the observation always, and his presence will be concealed no matter what. The fake's death doesn't break the Devil's concealment of the real Tse, what breaks is the predictive basis for concealing the Devil's continued observation of him. Additionally, It's his fake Illusion Corpse that suffers from the death.
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>>290859180
>It doesn't explain why Hisoka looked down and then looked up.
Oh, this is part of it too, basically. The corpse is the first place the illusion starts to break down. The Devil predicted Tse's movements up to his death only. So the dead Tse becomes the terminal state of that predicted track.

The illusion continues displaying a corpse that increasingly fails to update with the real Tse's environment. Hisoka notices that discrepancy after a few seconds because he is extremely perceptive. I imagine Hisoka looks at the corpse and realizes something hasn't happened correctly. Like the blood isnt behaving correctly or the body weight doesnt look right. The environment around the body is slightly off because the predicted illusion world breaks down with a futureless Tse.
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>>290858486
The free will thing is actually not an issue because LD can't read Tserreidnich's mind, he's a black box, it can only speculate based on his past actions. Like when he was just standing around in Zetsu that's all it could predict him doing, and now that he's on a rampage shooting everyone he sees that's all it will predict him doing.
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>>290868910
>>290869232
Just entered the thread. Is there a full breakdown of the double slit theory you recommend? Like how the experiment relates to Ephemeral 10 Seconds and how Theta and Hisoka saw Tse? I’m still on team Bungee Web but I’d like to compare to see which theory has more explanatory power. I’ve read most of (presumably) your replies and don’t feel I have a good grasp of the theory.
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>>290868910
>Well, this is something the double-slit theory exists specifically to explain.
My confusion is that there's no need to account for the real Tserriednich at all beyond hiding his presence. It's a two part question I had during his hallway shootout.

First of all, if he runs down the hall does the POV stay with him or does he start to see himself from a distance. We don't know how his ephemeral seconds looks when he uses it towards the perimeter of an already active ability. But the fact that his POV didn't seem to shift drastically horizontally and was mostly vertical might suggest that the beast is truly fixed in space and has a limited ability to alter the view. Basically moving up and down. OR the beast is not really moving but it's extending something within the space to provide vision. OR, OR. The beast isn't the one viewing things and something else is in charge of that, a form of Epitaph to use the jojo comparison. A piece of it that floats around on it's behalf.

Second is that if the main function of the ability is to generate a massive field of illusion. Why does it matter whether the creature can see real Tserriednich or no? It creates a prediction based on the state of things at the moment of activation and plays the illusion Tseriednich out, and affects others, based on that vision. Any subsequent visions just show him 10 seconds in the future from whatever moment he's in but it won't change what has already happened within the illusion.

The only question is really what it looks like when Tserri uses his ability again from a further distance than the starting point. Otherwise double slit would have meant that a pair of eyes were floating around 1004 while Salkov was present as Tserri was moving around the room for quite a while.

I just think Occam's razor suggests Theta was just looking aside whistfully, and Hisoka had an alternate means of detection setup outside the ability's range as he's often done.
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>>290868189
blowing a load to cheadle feet
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>>290861475
Speak for yourself
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>>290865819
The gay sex arc is fast approaching
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>>290857528
Reminder Shizuku dies in a collector's storage room... where do you guys think Tse is going to hide?
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>>290869894
Petting an invisible cat
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>>290869929
Inside her butthole
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Total clown supremacy btw
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>>290869487
>Well, I have a much more philosophical explanation of the double-slit theory from when I first made it. But here is a more practical explanation of it:

The Double-Slit Theory proposes that Tserriednich’s Devil acts as an external observer that first resolves an uncertain present into a definite state, then extrapolates that state into the future like a Laplacian predictor. Parallel Future preserves that calculated sequence as the reality everyone else continues to perceive, even after the real Tserriednich uses foreknowledge to leave that deterministic path. Because the illusion is built from what the Devil predicted, everything it successfully conceals must remain consistent with that predicted future.

>This theory is predictive of how Tse's ability will work thusly:

Once the predicted Tserriednich dies, the model contains no further movements for him, yet the real Tserriednich survives and continues acting outside the calculated sequence. The Devil’s eyes become visible because they are still observing and tracking a living Tserriednich whom the prediction has already concluded is dead, creating a visible mismatch between the deterministic future the Devil calculated and the reality that escaped it.

Things this theory will try to predict in future chapters:
1. If predicted Tse survives throughout the entire illusion interval, the eyes should be less likely to become visible.
2. The farther reality departs from the prediction, the more perceptual artifacts we might expect.
3. The Fake Tse's corpse will remain convincing, but environmentally uncanny.
4. The eyes should appear only after meaningful divergence from the predicted future
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>>290870278
>Once the predicted Tserriednich dies...the Devil’s eyes become visible
I like this theory because it's a reasonable limitation on his ability that he could theoretically overcome (become a better fighter so you don't die in the illusion).
But is there any evidence for it besides Hisoka's reaction?
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Funny
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>>290871082
>average modern moid
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>>290871082
hisoka would make a good daddy
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Who has the best nen type quiz. I usually get Transmuter but haven't tried in a while... and no i don't have any cups of water for divination
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>>290852675
It's cute because its true.
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When is volume 39 getting released through viz ?
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>>290871522
Fuck viz.
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>>290871082
>milk formula
you have tits dumb bitch
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I want to fuck killua
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>>290871654
get in line
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>>290871547
Well excuse me
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I have a question. In this arc a bunch of people are introduced with some kind of "the more followers I have the more my nen gets boosted" type meta ability, so why aren't characters more suspicious of Ging and Kurapika?
Ging is being incredibly weird and insistent on being called #2 as a mere formality, even if it confers no additional privileges, and he insists on them taking an extravagant amount of money even if they don't want it. That should reek of a nen condition, but nobody even mentions that possibility.
Kurapika initiating nen in others for free should be an instant red flag that it's an ability like Morena's or some of the other princes, ie those people's nen are now somehow indebted to his in the future. Maybe he can borrow the ability of anyone he initiated? Yes, nominally Kurapika can say it's all for "leveling the playing field", but from their POV that could just be a convenient excuse. Given how Togashi makes "smart" characters go on multiple panel wall of text dissections at the mere whiff of possible nen conditions, it dosn't make any sense that nobody even thinks of this possibility.
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>>290871751
try the one piece thread. i can't/won't read all that
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why didn't cammy create an ability where she enslaves whoever licks her feet
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>>290871786
why is the logo on the laptop a fat cock?
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>>290871781
> I can't read this wall of text. So instead of this manga I'm reading that has walls of texts read that other manga that just has reaction faces
Makes sense
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>>290859216
i like the spiderweb gum theory that he noticed tserri didn't really die and the real one is somewhere in front of him.
his main beef is with the spiders.
he walked away waiting for tserri to attack him again. if tserri didn't attack then hisoka would just let him go.
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>>290849741
Starting in 20 minutes, come watch the superior hunter adaptation, it's gonna be fun
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https://rentry.co/hxhcineplex

HXH WATCH PARTY COME NOW
HOT ASIAN GIRLS IN LOBBY
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>>290872067
JOIN JOIN JOIN
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Sorry, I'm a '11 kinda guy
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>>290872425
post your 11" bwo
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>>290871608
so big
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>>290872067
EPISODE 1 STARTING
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>>290871751
Ging ok. Ill give you that but id say pariston is on to his sweetcheeks, were just never getting his inner monologue. KP does get suspected of ulterior motifs but most princes/retinue dont know enough about nen to suspect a complex condition. And then the people in the class find out its not really (just) him whos initiating them so whats his condition supposed to be atp
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>>290872425
HxH98pilotchads where we at?
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>>290872558
BIGGER!
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>>290872017
requesting this to be added to the emote list
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>>290871751
I believe it was Tserri who considered the possibility that teaching is a condition of possible manipulation by Curarpikt.
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Could Togashi pull off a good serious series that’s not battle Shonen? He’s peaked battle Shonen and he’s done a great comedy, but I wonder what it would be like if he wasn’t writing battle Shonen.
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>>290873012
He can do a mahou shoujo
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>hisoka shits on the floor
>it's part of a strategy
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>>290872645
i dont remember leorio doing that
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>>290872067
EPISODE 2 PLAYING
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>>290873137
bungee incontenence
bungee disdended colon
bungee colostomy bag
bungee rectal prolapse
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>>290861475
https://files.catbox.moe/nw7q1a.png
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ough
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>>290873012
Tranny Basketball or whatever would have been peak
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>>290873156
>bungee distended colon
>hisoka strangles hundreds to death with his own intestines

Togashi plz...
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>>290873012
I think he could write a good pure mystery suspense comic like Urasawa:
: would it be as good as his? Probably not. But it would sill be pretty good
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>>290873012
he can't even do battle shonen
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>>290869654
>My confusion is that there's no need to account for the real Tserriednich at all beyond hiding his presence.
The Devil needs to keep watching Tse to keep itself grounded in "the present state." The Devil stays outside the predetermined scene. I.E., it isn't part of the Illusion. The illusion Tse is only a representation of the Future the Devil calculated. The Devil needs to observe /something/. It can't just pick its nose while Tse is running around.

The Devil stays attached to real Tse even when the predicted version survives. It needs to respond in real time to what the living Tse is doing. Once the people are zapped with the Illusion Antenna, the Devil's job is frankly done. Its new job is making sure Tse doesn't mess with the illusion. It needs to keep the illusion world congruent.

I'm sorry but it would take alot of time to answer both questions. I can only give you a general answer. But I will adress this point.
>Otherwise double slit would have meant that a pair of eyes were floating around 1004 while Salkov was present as Tserri was moving around the room for quite a while.
I think the eyes were. Salkov and Ben both missed their chances to see the eyes. For one, you deff need Gyo to see the Eyes. Secondly, they are genuenly hard to see, Hisoka did it because he is extremely perceptive. Theta did it because she had thought about Tse's ability alot and saw it once while it was forming. She simply knew where to look.

>I just think Occam's razor suggests Theta was just looking aside whistfully, and Hisoka had an alternate means of detection setup outside the ability's range as he's often done.
Generally, I'm not 100% confident in my theory either, but I also think Hisoka placed bungee gum on Illusion Tse right here. He doesn't need a bungee web to figure out anything. Simply thinking the Devil didn't simulate Bungee Gum perfectly is enough of a hint. I don't think Theta is that lucky tho.
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>>290873249
What do you mean, his 2 most popular series are battle Shonen?
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>>290873170
Mist lick tummy
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>>290872067
Episode 3 starting, boat kino
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>>290873170
down shirt erotic
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>>290873336
and they both suck
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>>290873351
add this as well hostanon
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>>290873422
you’re right, they suck, and every other battle Shonen sucks even worse. It’s incredible.
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>>290859216
>why did Hisoka walk away?
cause he felt both the beast and the invisible Tse but wasn't sure
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>>290859216
Because he was scared of what an ability like Tse's would do if it went post mortem and attached itself to him
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>>290872067
Watching episode 4, come get comfy with us
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>no new twitter updates
It's over. Shueisha won and Togashi lost.
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>>290873811
Everyone knows Togashi gets extra lazy when a hiatus is over. When chapters are releasing he gets extras motivated but when a batch is over he goes back to DQ
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Hunter bros i am watching 1999 as well on tv why is it so good
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What if wobel has pre-mortem nen
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>>290873902
What would silver and xenu have done if the rest of the troupe were just hiding with zetsu and ambushed them right there?
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>>290873902
join the stream
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So we're officially back in hiatus mode? Any idea how long this one will last?
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>>290873962
Probably slightly less than a year
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Pass or buy.
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>>290873170
He's insanely hot. How is Killua not plapping him 24/7
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>>290872067
EPISODE 5 IS ON
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>>290874024
>Buying toys
Cringe
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>>290873962
The same as the last 2 hiatuses. Around 2 years, come back 2028.
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>>290874066
it's probably for his sexy boyfriend
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>>290873962
Come back in April 2027
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>>290874024
I'll pass only because i already have a bunch of HxH merch
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>>290874024
Pitou sex doll when?
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>>290873909
>pre-mortem nen
that sounds like nen with extra steps.
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>>290874177
i mean pre-natal nen
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>>290874024
pass. price seems steep for what it is
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>>290874203
Imagine a 5 weeks conception nen user
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add this emote
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>>290874099
show her feet, coward
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>>290872067
FINAL EPISODE OF THE DAY
SATOTZ EXAM
JOIN JOIN JOIN
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>>290874024
I fucked up big time
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>>290872719
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>>290866137
>>290866160
Woman are so creative.
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need theta cunny
need souffle cunny
need lynch cunny
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thanks for the stream Roberto-san
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>>290866160
>deliberately use flashback kid machis head as reference
Fujos are fucked in the head
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>>290874788
>no women expressing sexuality bad
>>>/r9k/
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>>290873924
Killed them
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>>290874818
>fujos think ddlg is a sexuality
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>>290874371
Im hunting for this one
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>>290873811
I'll give him til the end of september
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All nen beasts granted by the urn have been of the manipulation type, right?
I'm pretty sure whomever lies to Tserriedbitch four times becomes his unconditional slave.
Also, Laplace's Demon is confirmation that he is Nasubi's son. It's basically an hereditary nen ability.
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>>290874860
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>>290874818
>bbygirl=woman
>>>/r9k/
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>>290871751
Tserriednich considered that possibility, but I don't remember the chapter
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>>290873962
When Togashi posted the chapter 420 manuscript on twitter he posted a picture of Hiei with it, I assume some people here haven't watched Yu Yu Hakusho but Hiei is known for being very fast and also kind of short, it also seems like a pun, Hiei, Hieitus, etc
"short and fast hiatus" could mean only a few months but even a single year long hiatus is not that long for this arc
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>>290874788
>woa this is so fucked up..
are you 12?
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Togashi is such a fucking hack for not expanding on HxH worldbuilding

Apart from the characters Gon & Killua interacted with, nothing is really known about the overall HxH world and what the fuck happens even though so much is hinted about it geopolitically

Maybe I'm a midwit for caring about this since it was never the point, but it'd be interesting to know what a random person's life is like in HxH
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>>290874024
Consider pic rel
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>>290874869
Halkenburg is enhancer
Fugetsu is emitter
Kacho is conjurer
Marayam is conjurer
Tubeppa is transmuter
Benjamin is specialist?
The rest are manipulator I guess
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>>290874985
>"are you 12?"
>asked the pedo fujo
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>>290874788
Its practically the same
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>>290875086
>2011
Instantly invalidated
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>>290875011
Whats the deal with machi she has no titts or ass and she is in love with a pedo clan phsycho
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>>290875086
>larger eye to head ratio
>larger head to body ratio
>more baby fat

nah it was deliberately childcoded
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>>290875104
Puritanism is unsightly
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>>290874371
>>290874860
Isn't he pretty easy to find? I got mine on amiami
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>>290875137
Anything other than loyalty to ToGODshi is unslightly
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>>290875212
I used to get them from playasia
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>>290872719
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>>290875339
you say that like there's something wrong with it
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Is it just me or are a lot of these GSB abilities mostly useful against non-nen users?
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>>290872645
>Leorio backflipping like that
Fucking lol.
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>>290875117
She is japanese
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>>290875713
they are supposed to continue helping the future king after winning, 99% of the population in kakin isn't nen users. Zhang's coins for example
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>>290875713
they're mostly just good regardless
I really want to see more of tse's and cammy's though, halkenberg's and benjamin's are very powerful but tse's and cammy's haven't done much at all
on the other hand you can see which princes togashi doesn't really care about, like tubeppa and luzurus which have simple and boring abilities
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>>290875782
Camilla’s part of the simple and boring crowd. It’s just pure manipulation. She’s not that important
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>>290853179
The one I liked most was one that some anon posted: Hisoka noticed that there was no bullet impact in the direction that "Tserriednich" shot his gun and then looked around thinking something was off.
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>>290871786
It wouldn’t work on Ben and his men for obvious reasons.
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>>290875845
camilla is obviously one of the important princes that togashi likes, because she's pretty and relevant
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>>290873924
They would’ve called up Maha.
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>>290875566
Those OVAs often get kind of disregarded and shat on because of the artstyle continuity coming off of 99yorkshin, fair amount of early 2000s QUALITY in the GI OVAs
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>>290847335
If Tserriednich is already going through all these deaths like Diavolo, then a death loop would be too repetitive and predictable, Togashi's already utilized that element. But what else, Tse's personality splitting? Turning himself into a permanent art piece? The last one would be morbid and fulfilling for his character.
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>>290875713
No? Zhang’s worked on Coventoba, Tse’s worked on Theta, Halkenburg’s has worked on several nen users, Momoze’s worked on Sayird, Marayam’s works on nen users, etc. The GSBs are effective against nen users.
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>>290875998
he'll die to something mundane like a bullet to the head, I don't really expect that kind of vindictive death at this point in the series
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>>290875998
He will see his death, trigger the ability, be forced to deactivate it and activate it again then sees his death again, each time the death happening earlier than the previous vision until he starts panicking.
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The whole Fuu-Luzurus subplot is so fucking dumb. Melody and Kacho concluding that Luzurus’ GSB had to have attacked Fuu because uhhh drugs lmao is genuinely the stupidest moment in all of Hunter x Hunter.
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>>290872645
lol leorio really was about to end the kurtas

>>290875984
damn they cant make goreinu ugly even if they tried
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$hangcoin status?
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>>290876067
Shut up druggie
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>>290876143
traded it for machi feet pics from phinks
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>>290876056
that'd be kino while conserving togashi needing to draw, its a win-win, i can practically visualize it myself

>>290876017
yeah something anticlimactic could suit him, question is how the reader would take that. it'd have to be well-executed, that's why people dont complain about the other anticlimactic resolutions in hxh
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>>290875919
>pretty
Ahahah, ahahahahhahahhahahhahahah
Pretty woman? Important to Togashi? In a shonen manga? a manga about cute boys and hot men>?
ahahahahhahahahahhahahaha
I've never laughed this hard
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>>290876006
>No?
Who the fuck talks like this? Just say no.
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>>290876212
NTA. Hate to agree with a homo, but you're correct. Togashi doesn't care about his female characters just because they're attractive; he arguably doesn't even care about his male characters on the basis of attractiveness.
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>>290876437
I’m just baffled why you made such a retarded statement. Most GSBs have been effective against nen users.
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>sowing
>vacuuming
>thought reading
Seriously, what did Togashi mean by this?
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>>290876551
I didn’t you dumbfuck. I’m not the person you were replying to and I didn’t read your braindead post beyond the first word. KYS
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>>290875984
I've always been curious about lesser Hunter characters in HxH and how they ended up learning Nen.

Togashi is a fucking hack and will never ever ever expand on it, but people like Goreinu should probably be a celebrity in their local countries due to being a Greed Island survivor-tier Hunter, but how would Togashi write their backstories without making him look like an overachiever like Gon & KillIua, Hisoka or the Phantom Troupe, Genthru becoming a sociopath due to his country being nuked since atomic terrorist attacks are a common thing in the HxH world makes sense
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>>290876586
Yu yu hakusho had a male mindreader first to be fair
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>>290876640
I think Goreinu was raised by Gorillas
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>>290876212
>>290876476
obviously togshi is a homo
togashi likes camilla because she already has a powerful nen ability, is one of the most relevant princes in the story, and is drawn as attractive and visually distinct
as opposed to other princes who have simple gsb abilities, have less relevance in the story, and are drawn as weird muppet people or are otherwise silly or freakish
it's obvious which characters togashi favors, so it's unlikely that camilla's gsb will be generic and boring, and unlikely that camilla isn't particularly relevant in the rest of the arc
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>>290876689
Nothing about Camilla is relevant. Shes destined to die to poison.
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>>290873309
>The Devil needs to keep watching Tse to keep itself grounded in "the present state."
Why does it need a keep a "present state" view of him to maintain illusion Tserriednich's actions? The whole Laplace demon theory is about a singular download of information allowing something to extrapolate all future actions. It only needs the ephemeral 10 seconds and any subsequent uses of the power just give Tserri another 10 second preview while in the same activation field.
>The Devil stays outside the predetermined scene
That's just Tserriednich's theory and if we both accept that the E10S POV is from the creature in some way. It's clearly within the boundary and not above/outside it
>The Devil stays attached to real Tse even when the predicted version survives.
Or it stays fixed in place and merely extends/projects something that follows him around. Which is why I am curious to see him use his E10S while near the edge of his activation range. We just don't know what his POV will look like.
>For one, you deff need Gyo to see the Eyes
Hisoka didn't use gyo when he looked up. At best he used it when he looked at Tserri but that effect could just as easily been artistic license. Togashi also didn't show us Theta using Gyo either. If your answer is that Tserriednich can't see the aura because he's in zetsu then we have no proof of Gyo still
>but I also think Hisoka placed bungee gum on Illusion Tse right here
Nah, he would have had to affixed it to the real body of Tserriednich for the bungee web theory to work. He would have done it before or during him standing on top of the slot machine behind Tserri before he attacked him. That way the strand would "look" like it is on the fake corpse but in reality it's still on Tserri and this would create the refracted effect the web theory suggests. So the other end needs to be on the ceiling hence the web theory suggesting Hisoka set up multiple of these.
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jaekel shut up and go rob a k-mart or something and leave us alone
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>>290876638
Oh, so you just don’t understand basic English. Got it.
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>>290876640
>Togashi is a fucking hack and will never ever ever expand on it
Pacing wise I've always kind of appreciated how HxH skips over padding tier stuff like that and sticks to whats important, like we could have gotten 10 filler chapters of the Nostrade applicants going to collect their item in order to get employed but no
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>>290876640
Goreinu spent a lot of time licking male gorillas
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>>290876640
Posts like this blow my mind. The first 70 chapters show you how the hunter system works to teach "normal" people Nen. Then we see how normie hunters survive in the CA arc and EA arc (not well), I don't know how it can be spelled out more unless you unironically want a Goreinu arc
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>>290876745
This current arc is filled with padding and filler though
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>>290876212
Cheadle is very pretty and very important
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>>290876811
Cheadle is an ugly hag
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>>290876811
Netero did some really nasty stuff with her didn't he? She loved it too.
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>>290876194
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>>290876713
>The whole Laplace demon theory is about a singular download of information allowing something to extrapolate all future actions.
Because Tse breaks this extrapolation when he views it. In Laplace's Demon philosophy, one of the challenges is the "self-prediction problem." Tse knowing the Demon's prediction is a self-prediction problem.

>That's just Tserriednich's theory and if we both accept that the E10S POV is from the creature in some way. It's clearly within the boundary and not above/outside it
I mean in a predictive sense. The Demon inherently cannot predict its own actions. It doesn't include itself standing near Tse as part of the world it predicts.

>your answer is that Tserriednich can't see the aura because he's in zetsu then we have no proof of Gyo still
Yes. Its exactly that, I'm suggesting they are using Gyo. I know its convient for me that it cannot be proven / disproven that they are. But I think its safe to assume the Devil is using some form of "In"
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>>290876713
(oh well, I should clarify, In Short, I don't think the Devil is simply saying "people cannot see me" as part of its conditions, there is a nen mechanic behind it)
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>>290876811
Sir, that's a dog.
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>>290877055
I'm canadian
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Rihan + martial arts (kung-fu) + guns = unstoppable
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>>290876979
>Because Tse breaks this extrapolation when he views it.
Only in a single case which I theorize works because he was by himself. It's not his beasts observations that fix things in place but the beast using everyone else's observations instead. Since it's already in their heads this fits better. If nobody is looking at the real body he can make changes like writing the will. If even one person sees him his beast overrides their perception to ignore it.
>The Demon inherently cannot predict its own actions. It doesn't include itself standing near Tse as part of the world it predicts.
Again why? It doesn't do anything except view the situation and pump out illusions. We don't even know if anyone can physically interact with it or if it's also invincible while active.
>But I think its safe to assume the Devil is using some form of "In"
Or it's using the same perception altering ability that Meleron's Perfect Plan has while either being invincible or intangible. Maybe not even those two but who knows.

>>290877012
>I don't think the Devil is simply saying "people cannot see me"as part of its conditions, there is a nen mechanic behind it)
Why not? This entire arc is chock full of abilities that as part of their conditions are selectively imperceptible to different ranges of targets. The silent majoritiy doll and Stealth dolphin can't be seen by anyone other than the possessed target. Secret Window can't be seen by anyone other than the person that owns the ability. Lynch's Mindfulness only shares the soul chatter between herself and the person she punches. Why does can't Laplace's Demon make itself imperceptible to everyone except those outside the range of the ability.

On top of this the entire point of this creature is to peer into a possible future and project a mass illusion field that spans a considerable range. Of course it can include itself in that ability, especially if you assert that it is following Tserriednich around all the time.
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This arc is so boring.
I hate it.
I hate it so much.
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>>290877350
>Again why? It doesn't do anything except view the situation and pump out illusions.
It's just part of the whole philosophy of Laplace's Demon. That's why I'm theorizing it works this way. You need to look at what it is: In the classical text it really isn't even a demon. It's simply an extraordinarily capable, vast intelligence. It doesn't have a form or anything.

It cannot predict its own actions because there is nothing to predict. It isn't necessarily free from determinism, but it's also something that isn't part of the system.

Later on, a solution to this "problem" was proposed by a guy named Popper. Who explicitly considers replacing Laplace’s abstract intelligence with a physical predicting machine inside the world. Its calculations and predictions are themselves physical events that a complete prediction would need to account for.

>Only in a single case which I theorize works because he was by himself.
Your theory is good, I'm simply giving the reason why Double-Slit theory explains how Tse changed the world.

>Why not? This entire arc is chock full of abilities that as part of their conditions are selectively imperceptible to different ranges of targets.
Because a Condition implies the Devil is part of the world. If the Devil has a condition, "This person Can't See Me" It implies the Devil has a relation to the person in the Real World. The Devil is using Nen to "Actually Remove Itself", not just pseudo-remove itself in relation to other people
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>>290877424
*sighs*
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>>290877756
>It cannot predict its own actions because there is nothing to predict. It isn't necessarily free from determinism, but it's also something that isn't part of the system.
Here's the problem I have. Just like Netero's Buddha not actually being a representation of Guayin, or Knuckle's ability being a literal bank. I feel ike you are taking the name for Tserriednich's ability far more literal than it actually is. Ultimately this is a nen ability that replicates part of a theory without actually embodying that theory.

>Your theory is good, I'm simply giving the reason why Double-Slit theory explains how Tse changed the world.
I think double slit just makes too many assumptions and requires too much extra steps to make sense.

>Because a Condition implies the Devil is part of the world
well Theta saw it being formed so it is a part of the world. It's lack of presence is explained by multiple examples within this very arc. As well as the basic logic of the ability which has no reason to remove itself from the equation to "balance" out the power. As far as I'm concerned, the creature exists "10 seconds into the future" and is literally displaced from the current time.
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>>290853257
Gotoh and Razor say hi
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why do camilla and tseri not care about their GSB?
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>>290877424
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>>290877424
wash it down with tse's nen divination water

>>290877960
they're both hatsubrained and dont have much of a connection with the GSB
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>>290877960
Because they cannot actively control them.
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>>290877960
Camilla is a retard who is paranoid about death so she doesn't regard her GSB because it's an unknown she can't rely on for her fool proof plan of goading people into shooting her.

Tserriednich can't see his GSB and wasn't aware of it's effects on Theta, on top of learning a new power and hyper focusing on it because he thinks it will help him take over the world. Both are as >>290878031 described.but at least Tserriednich has the excuse of being a nen novice who made his hatsu unconsciously so he doesn't yet know all the rules.
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>>290878088
outside of the serial killerness camilla feels like an air-headed version of tserriednich
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>>290877960
GSBs aren’t reliable. They can’t be controlled and their hosts can’t even see them. Their abilities are a mystery. For a nen user, it’s better to use a power you’re familiar with and can actually control than to rely on an unknown.
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>>290877915
>Just like Netero's Buddha not actually being a representation of Guayin
Hey, this is not true. Alot of things Westerners don't realize about Buddhism in Japan. That it was part of the Sengoku Era Military-Industrial Complex. Particularly, Zen Buddhism was taught paradoxically to the point where killing some people is seen as compassionate. The best example of this is Munenori's "Life-Giving Sword." which was a popular text in Japan, about killing someone to save a life. This sort of reasoning is against Buddhist ethics, but it was part of Japanese Buddhist Philosophy for a long time.

>Ultimately this is a nen ability that replicates part of a theory without actually embodying that theory.
I agree part of it is reaching because really, I don't expect Togashi to have ever read Popper. I don't think Togashi knows much about quantum mechanics either even though he mentions Higgs. But I also find it "coincidental" that if you simply follow the logic of laplase demon, it predicts certain behaviors we've seen from the Devil and Tse.

>As well as the basic logic of the ability which has no reason to remove itself from the equation
It 100% does need to remove itself. This is just a fact Togashi understands, all the way to Neon in York New. People were using Neon's predictions to escape Neon's Predictions. Togashi 100% understands the self-prediction problem.
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>>290877960
>>290878031
>>290878088
Imagine you’re about to be thrown into a battle royale where you must fight for your life. I offer to give you one of two things; either a fully loaded gun or an item that’s a complete mystery. Which would you choose?
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>>290878326
but they got both the gun and the mystery item
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>>290878326
but they dont have to choose
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>>290878364
>>290878396
>>290878364
Unfortunately for them, their nen abilities are incompatible with GSBs. Zetsu makes GSBs vanish. So they have to choose between the gun and the mystery item.
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>>290854201
Nah, it's so there'll be more shock value whenever his mangled face is exposed by whatever reason. Hisoka having a fucked up face and missing fingers he's only able to hide using BOTH his hatsu is a massive bomb waiting to blow up on his face(no pun intended).
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>>290878295
>Hey, this is not true
It's not a literal buddha but what a martial artist thinks of himself and his philosophy built around looking for a violent duel to the death.
> don't expect Togashi to have ever read Popper.
I think he did and it doesn't matter. These are not literal representations of these ideas and concepts. They are characters naming their stuff off things they like and/or a related function of their ability.
The point is that Tserriednich's ability can predict the actions of those inside the range for however long he can maintain it. And it creates an illusosry version of himself to act within it based on a hypothetical version of the future where he doesn't seem to have his power. The beast observing him is part of the ability but not shown to be some constant rule that dictates so much more.
>It 100% does need to remove itself.
Anon, I explained that it doesn't need to do this because other powers show that an avatar or conduit of the power can be hidden by default. But the fact that it produces a mass illusion provides another means by which it conceals itself.
>People were using Neon's predictions to escape Neon's Predictions
This is another point entirely because nobody said the future was set in stone. We are simply talking about whether or not the nen beast is visible, concealed, or conditionally perceptible. How accurate it's predictions are is a new point.
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>>290878394
Nakadashi Nencho
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>>290878700
https://youtu.be/_9WNkH3v_lo?si=aWl46v5QCpGbD4WP
not her type, you were born wrong
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>>290878944
Try me!
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Nen being a secret in HxH world is so fucking retarded and I can't take Togashi's work seriously because of this

at least in YYH there's an excuse that you literally have to fucking die to access the spiritual world and the outside world is just the real world but HxH is not like that

No way that in a world with like hundreds of hiroshimas and nagasakis did Nen being a thing did not get leaked into the general public
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>>290847335
i genuinely believe he will just keep dying over and over
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>>290879200
>he doesn't know
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>They asked...he delivered
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>>290879200
>takes at best months if not years of regular training to even begin to see it for a normal person
>"dude psychics are bullshit it's smoke and mirrors"
You are the retard here.
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Total Clown Supremacy. Kurapika fears the tier 1 military police meanwhile Hisoka is slaughtering entire platoons just down the stairs.
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>>290879356
Magic is not seen as far-fetched in HxH world, but people are just convinced that Nen users are people born with superpowers. My point is that in a world with so much political instability like HxH's that saw cities being denonated by nuclear bombs hundreds of times would have probably led to someone whistleblowing that Nen exists a long time ago, which makes it retarded for it to be a secret.
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>>290878450
>Anon, I explained that it doesn't need to do this because other powers show that an avatar or conduit of the power can be hidden by default.
Ok, you're still missing my point about removing itself and self-prediction. Hiding the thing causing an effect doesn't automatically hide the evidence that it's doing something.

Imagine an invisible sprinkler spraying you. You can't see the sprinkler, but you're still getting wet. The spray can tell you where the water is coming from and whether it's coming in bursts. Making the sprinkler invisible doesn't hide any of that.

That's what I mean by "removing itself." You don't have to see the source or understand how it works to get information from what it's doing. The avatar being invisible doesn't, by itself, mean its activity leaves no detectable traces.

So now I will talk about why this matters in the predictive sense: Sulkov

Salkov knowing it's fake changes how he's going to act. The Devil isn't predicting some guy who thinks Tse actually died. It's predicting a guy who knows an ability is messing with his senses and can act on that knowledge. He can test things instead of just taking what he sees at face value.

Sure, maybe the Devil predicts those tests too. But then it has to account for him knowing he's being fooled. You can't explain his behavior just by asking what he'd do if the scene were real.

This is where self-predictions become a problem that is inherant to the illusion. Can he learn anything about what the Devil predicts he'll do and use that information to do something else? Just knowing "this is an illusion" doesn't break anything. Knowing "it predicts I'll do X" and being able to deliberately do Y is where the predictions break down.

Thats why the Nen Beast has to take great care in removing itself. I actually like your "the Devil lives 10 seconds in the future." theory, I don't know if you meant that litterally, but that is actually, a very solid way to remove yourself.
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>>290879595
Again, what makes you think anyone would believe it it if it does happen? They cannot see it.
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>>290878394
AAIIIEEEEE
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>>290879809
I'm NTA but I don't get why its important to remove all traces of yourself. Why can't its conditions be I remove all traces of myself and remove all traces of the beams I shoot into your head to broadcast fake Illusion World
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>>290879800
Owari da
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>>290858626
They didn't though?
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When's the next chapter
I'm still addicted I want the next chapter now
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>>290879846
Knowing that it exists is an entirely different thing from learning it. Again, you just need too many Edward Snowdens telling you that Nen exists that it'd possible for Nen to be a secret.

It's a plothole, Togashi thought about Nen back when the internet was still a very niche thing let alone smartphones, nowadays a zoomer celebrity would easily be able to garner millions of followers and call out on Nen being real and relay the information to his audience, back then nobody would really bother with videos about something performing a magic ritual in 360p because there was no such things as a "deboonker" culture.
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>>290858877
The air resistance would kill you, you'd be a burnt husk of charcoal and ash
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>>290880144
I've done the calculations and 25 gallons of cum is enough to keep me safe. Ready to slather it on at a moments notice
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>>290880109
Soon...
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GODsoka won
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Why does Morena have small tits and wide shoulders? is she a troon?
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I finally got a lucid dream where I was able to use Laplace Devil. Though it wasn't a pure laplace devil like Tse's because I could tell my illusion self how to act. Anyways, its surprisingly intuitive. In general Its like using phantom lancer from dotA but you only get 1 juxtapose.

The weirdest effect was driving a car then entering zetsu. For whatever reason the car was driving itself, I was in a situation where I was fighting my illusion self for control of the wheel.

Stealing was fun, Laplace Devil is designed for taking money out of cash registers. Its also good for food trucks.

Yes yes, of course I tried that. You know. It was actually weird. Many approaches straight up do not work. Laplace is not made for this application. You unironically just end up being cucked by your illusion self. I have very quick zetsu so eventually I found a method of restraint that was satisfying.
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>>290879809
>Hiding the thing causing an effect doesn't automatically hide the evidence that it's doing something.
Even other examples in the story prove this. But all you need to do to properly confuse someone is hide the source of the power and even mask the trigger. Think back to Oito with Sayird's ability. Even with Babymiyna using En across the entirety of room 1014, the fact that he cannot see/perceive Stealth Dolphin lets him be successfully tricked that Bill is the one with a manipulation ability. It's not until Oito reacts to Momoze's death and outs herself that he realizes it was her controlling the roach.

This is why Theta/Salkov/Benjamin/Hisoka all can't react to this power. Even if they know there's an illusion they cannot perceive when it's activated and what's maintaining it because the moment Tserriednich blinks there's a perfect simulacrum of him running around and no trace of any nen beast working in the background.

>The avatar being invisible doesn't, by itself, mean its activity leaves no detectable traces.
Given we have multiple examples to the contrary. An avatar can 100% leave no detectable traces. Again, straight line of sight, being in earshot of a power, and even using multiple detection means will not reveal abilities like Stealth Dolphin, Silent majority's doll body, the Kakin GSBs, etc. It's not invisibility, it's total perception dampening to whomever is specified by the ability.

>It's predicting a guy who knows an ability is messing with his senses and can act on that knowledge
It's "prediction" is still foresight just like Neon's ability foresees the future. It's not making guesses, it's just scrying events. I don't think it's a literal calculation at all. The only simulation it's running is that of a fake Tserriednich within that future timeline. Again, don't take the name so literally to how the beast actually operates. They are similar but not exact just like Hakoware is not a literal bank.
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Pitou sex
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>>290879200
Nen is a secret, but "magic" isn't.
People know supernatural powers exist, but don't know how to access them and tend to assume that people are just born with them.
The existence of nen geniuses, who create abilities subconsciously and seemingly are born with them, backs up that idea.
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What killed the hype?
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>>290880997
People are finally realizing this series just isn’t that good
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>>290880997
Kill yourself
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Why do people give a shit about Tse? He's boring. I hate that Togashi dedicates so much time to this jobber. Three whole chapters wasted on one fucking dipshit that would job to Gido. What the fuck happened to Hunter x Hunter?
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>>290879833
CVTE
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>BRING ME THE FUCKING CLOWN
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>>290879444
checked and keked
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>>290879444
SOVLKINO
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>>290879200
nen is retarded bc they know everything about it yet the world the universe is not wholly understood/explored it makes the universe limited
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>>290875117
>Whats the deal with machi she has no titts or ass
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>>290859013
one of the panels that made me interested in this manga
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>>290881455
Yeah, Tse’s boring as shit. Togashi needs to kill off that loser already
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>>290882451
DAMN machi has the dumpy
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>>290882547
Who cares? Talk about Tse being boring.
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Tse is by far the worst hxh antagonist. Dude’s so boring and weak. We went from Meruem to a guy who’s weaker than Pokkle. HxH is a joke right now.
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>>290882864
>>290882931
Aight lil bro here's your attention
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>>290882931
Agreed. This fandom has gone schizo. All this ranting and raving about Laplace’s Devil when one arrow from Pokkle rapes Tse. HxH fans are truly some of the dumbest people on this board, that’s why they cream themselves over every dumb fuck thing Togashi does.
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>b-but muh 10 sec-
One punch from a nenless Kortopi instantly kills Tse even if he used ko to defend against it.
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>>290848021
>So what happens when Tser actually gets strong
By that point, Gon will have his nen back with an improved hatsu.
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>>290868189
>>290869788
This thing is a double star hunter?
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Remember when all you morons thought Tse was royal guard tier? You people are so fucking stupid.
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>>290880582
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>>290883305
Tsneed is not royal guard tier, but Theta will be once she is no longer human.
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>>290883305
I literally brought it up too, that there's no way with just a small amount of nen training that he could match up to a nen master that mogs him in speed of execution even if his ability is ridiculously OP and he is a confirmed genius. There's a reason why the series emphasizes Gon and Killua's nen training throughout multiple arcs as well as the time needed for improving the fundamentals and advanced cases, and those two are also rare prodigies albeit lesser prodigies compared to Tserr. Any nen master that
>speed blitzes Tserr
>has a wider En-based ability larger than Tserr's 36 meter radius which detected Tserr before Tserr does (first come first served execution)
>casts defensive nen (Ken shroud to protect the entire body equally) to tank any of Tserr's attacks
>is a wide range user (i.e sniper)
can all give Tserr problems. Tserr doesnt even have any heavy hitting nen attacks, most of his aura output is geared towards LD. I have a feeling that Tserr is (obviously) going to add conditions and new attacks with LD but it'll have to come at the cost of recharging LD and total battery charge for LD (so instead of having, for example, 1 hour of LD use stored up he'll only have 20 minutes of LD if he uses a strong nen attack while using LD)
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>>290876689
Its Camilla who is obviously a homo btw
>>290875732
She is polish if anything.
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>>290883294
Cheadle Yorkshire is a Triple-Star Disease Hunter and the 14th Chairwoman of the Hunter Association in [Hunter × Hunter]
: A member of the Zodiacs with the codename "Dog" (Inu), she acts as the brains of the group and serves on the Science Team for the Dark Continent expedition
She holds a Triple-Star license, which requires remarkable achievements across multiple fields, holding an official position, and having a mentored junior hunter reach a two-star rank
She is a physician and legal scholar known for her high intelligence, organizational capabilities, and strong sense of bureaucracy, contrasting with more chaotic figures like Ging Freecss or Pariston Hi
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>>290876143
What do the coins do again
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>>290877960
How did Camilla get her nen ability again
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>>290848953
*get raped by
He's a masochist after all.
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>>290883917
Yea
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>>290862007
lol. you humans are weak
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>>290884766
You know nothing of the endless cummies within the human balls
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>>290884766
You will never be a cat girl
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>>290884766
Gatekeeper...
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>>290855347
What did togashi mean by this
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>Eventually they will need to talk to Beyond or Pariston for neutralizing Beyond's curse on Wobble
>Kurapika gets in contact with Pariston
>Ging picks up since hes the new #1
This will also be the way Gon comes into contact with Ging again. Trust the plan.
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>>290886001
Ging is #2 though
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>>290886253
Yeah my bad, thats what I meant.
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>>290886293
>Ging is this rich yet never send money to Mito or Gon
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Anons, where are we ranking Nasubi on the powerscale?
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>>290886518
nasubi can beat the combined efforts of the spiders, that much we know
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>>290886543
Chrollo literally wants to steal his most precious King's treasures, He's not the type to run in and throw hands anyway, he'd get folded
Bro spent 365 days just preparing to fight a fucking fagclown
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nasubi can simply eat the spiders
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>>290860283
>>290860334
His combat skill is pretty low and will likely stay low because he's pure Hatsu brain
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>>290880044
>I'm NTA but I don't get why its important to remove all traces of yourself.
Look, its more about making a prediction of how Togashi will handle future scenarios with Laplace Devil.

There is going to be a scenario where Tse encounters someone who 1) Knows Tse's ability projects illusions 2) Knows Tse's ability calculates or predicts the future. I'm asking "How will Togashi handle an encounter like this?" because Togashi knows this is will cause a "self prediction problem."

>Why can't its conditions be I remove all traces of myself
This is too absolutist. If someone figures out your condition is to "remove all traces of myself." then your condition failed the moment they figured out you are using a conditon
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new bread when
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Tse should get a Ben's Knife coated in Venom
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>>290887474
whos to say he doesnt have a few of em lying around. i mean he is a collector and an aristocrat and connoisseur of fine arts and appreciates beauty as evidenced by his interest in theta
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>>290887697
theta is ugly as fuck bro
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Hunter x Hunter is over lol
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>>290887872
wrong
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>>290887872
cringe
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>>290887697
togashi intentionally made theta homely to make it more clear Tser likes her for reasons other than wow what a beaut
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>>290880315
the shoulders are needed to balance her large ears
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>>290887872
We got it anon, you're gay
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next king of kakin. the rape festivals will continue
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>>290887956
>>290887956



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