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Name ONE (1) thing Grace did wrong.
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be too sexy
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Christian anime
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>>290929899
I want to have sex with Grace.
Lara is a annoying bitch.
Yuritards tongue my anus.

That's all.
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be too fishy
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>>290929899
Let Lara be a dumb slut for humans like her and dooming her kingdom.
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>>290929926
Christian love is so beautiful
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>entered the previous thread to discuss the episode
>full of hope that there will be a happy ending
>all the anons talking about a time skip, lara leaving, mari hurt and sad
The heck is going on here?
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Luca will impregnate both Lara and Mari
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Fuck Grace
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>>290929950
Not even anime originals are safe from spoilers...
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A friendly reminder from Koide that this isn't a shallow "girl-meets-girl" coming of age story in which everyone grows and comes out the otherside happy.5
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God, please let this thread be peaceful.
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>>290929950
>Happy Ending

None of the episodes hitherto have been happy.
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She will pleasure herself with the fih
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We can all agree Goodbye, Lara, regardless of ending, is AOTS, right?
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Found the perfect woman for Mari
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Damn the credits hit right in the kokoro.
Mari loves her fishes so much...
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Mari rape
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>>290930057
Clit sucking lips
Erotic
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>>290929950
>Pre-screening event for episode 11 + 12
>led to some chinese person posting alleged leaks
>the elements that have spent weeks pushing Luca, friendship, platonic, anything but Lara/Mari latched onto it
>original chinese poster eventually deleted said spoilers
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>>290930057
Who tops in this relationship?
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>This fishes problems are about to be over
>Try not to be jealous
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>>290930089
Sacred yuri rule: the womanlet always tops.
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>>290929926
What does this show have to do with Christianity?
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>>290929926
“True love” was Living Life all along and this confirms the original Little Mermaid’s “turning into sea foam” ending was a metaphor for suicide all along.
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>>290929899
Now that this anime turned out to be a joke, how did that Hibike movie end?
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How old is Mari supposed to be here?
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>Nanoha EXCEEDS will likely have a better ending than this show
Dear god....
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>>290930046
unless the tall senpai comes to save the day kickboxing all the bad guys wearing more cleavage than shirt and shorts that are so tight they've become panties, AOTS has to go to another anime
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>>290930144
Must be like 6-7
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>>290929926
A fish is one of the oldest Christian symbols.
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>No daughter of mine is going out looking like that!
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>People unironically thought this was going to be yuri with it’s old-timey classic shoujo/WMT/Ghibli-esque look
It was obviously made for a female audience, not otaku pedo waifufags. How’d you ever think it was going to be yuri with this kind of arstyle and vibe? Go back to watching your CGDCT moe slop, this anime was never for you.
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What message about true love is this anime trying to tell, exactly?
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>>290930217
>meanwhile the most succesful yuri of all time is the most shoujo-looking then ever with a huge female audience
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>>290930217
Please take this dumb fighting to another thread, I beg you. Let this thread be calm.
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>>290930217
You put on those rainbow socks and you're a woman now?
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>>290930217
This anime was never for everyone to begin with.
Why? Because it's shit.
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How long was Grace a small fish till Mari found her?
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These past 4 or 5 threads are going to be a goldmine for screencaps of retarded hetfags who actually thought the chinese fake leak was coming to their rescue.
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Christian anime? No no, this is now officially Aryan anime
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>>290930279
Please, no fighting.
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>Rigmor's true love is romantic
>Grace's true love was romantic
>Lara's true love can't be romantic because??????
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Anyone got the Shuuichi version of pic related? It was posted during Hibike S3's air time
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>>290930279
Two more weeks, sister
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>>290930136
Hans Christian Andersen’s original 1836 fairy tale Little Mermaid uses Christian themes of salvation and the immortal soul as its main plot device

>>290930245
>this shit is the most successful yuri of all time
This isn't something you should be proud of
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>>290929926
Danes like the Dutch are non-catholic countries so Japan is capable of portraying their flavors of Christianity in a positive light.
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>>290930355
I'm not really but you want to claim that all yuri is like that.
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And all Mari gets is a platonic hug
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Nips are entirely right in hating gaijin. Chinks end up leaking the whole thing and then both the disappointed western hetfags and yurifags go on Twitter spreading the ending to everyone even to those that didn't ask for it. Just saw someone replying to fanart just to complain about the ending which is fucking bullshit
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I just want Mari to be happy with her fishes
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>>290930263
Grace waited so long for Lara to revive, used all her magic and life to prevent Lara's family to get in the way, just to see Lara find true love and prove that her life and decisions were not a mistake.
I feel sorry for Grace and even more sorry for Mari.
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>>290930349
Different forms of love sweaty
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>>290930349
>>290930238
Because not all love is romantic, this is the message
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>>290930349
Christian anime.
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>>290930355
I'm talking about this anime, not the Little Mermaid. What does it have to do with Christianity?
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>>290929899
Is it true Lara leaves mari forever to slut it up across japan?
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Be honest, is there a way they can make the Lara leaving ending work? Is there context we might be missing?
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>>290930461
You should tell that to Koide since he forgot to develop forms of non-romantic love in 11 episodes
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>>290930484
Yes, they can. But no kiss is disappointing and proves nips are cowards.
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>>290930474
This anime is directly influenced by Little Mermaid. See >>290927709

>>290930500
He developed it fine, you just saw things that were never there thanks to your ''media literacy''
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>>290930046
lol no.
It only has eyecandy going for it.
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>>290930461
>not all love is romantic
This has been such an overplayed trope in the 2010s and 2020s that by now an actual “true love IS romantic actually” would be considered the more subversive ending, and making that true love gay would be the most ballsy, subversive move a production could make, the writers are just cowards.
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>>290930484
>>290924117
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Can someone who’s not insane tell me the odds that the Chinese leaker was bullshitting? Based on the Live Photos they posted it’s clear they were at least at the event.
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>>290930481
No that's your mom
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>>290930521
>>290930538
>muh coward
True love can be romantic, just like it also can't
The Japanese aren't cowards just because you refuse to actually consume yuri shows and want this one to be a lesbian story.
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>>290930548
>Based on the Live Photos they posted it’s clear they were at least at the event.
You already have the answer to your own question. You just don't like the answer.
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>>290930561
>just like it also can't
Yeah but that’s already a tired trope at this point and a full-blown gay romance would be more noteworthy.
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Let's be honest, if the leaks were the exact same but it had a kiss people wouldn't be complaining, and at that point you have to wonder if the kiss is even important.
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>>290930484
If Grace and Lara's dream is redefined as living on the surface rather than finding true love in another person, there's plenty of room for an ending where Lara sets off to see more of the world and will come bake Mari a cake when she's the champion.

They're really set up 50/50 on the romantic or platonic ending so I wouldn't be surprised by either one
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>>290930548
He had more than one photo?
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>>290930538
>would be considered the more subversive ending, and making that true love gay would be the most ballsy, subversive move a production could make
Subversion =/= good.
What the fuck is this retardation
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>>290930531
Could you tell me how was non-romantic love developed through the the show then? Especially since last episode features two romantic couples, one of which saved the merfolk kingdom
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The anime never even humors Mari as a true romantic interest.
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DANCE!
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So the message of this story is the same as Disney's Frozen? Is that what you're getting at?
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Honestly I feel pretty bad for all the posters saying the “Live for love, not for the laws” line is some beautiful allegory for gay/lesbian romance. Gonna be a smack to the face
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>>290930609
>Subversion =/= good.
Exactly, that’s how we got all these retarded “AKSHULLY LOVE ISN’T JUST ROMANTIC CHUDS” endings trying to stick it to classic Disney since the 2010s.
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>>290930599
I'd take Lara dating Luca over her fucking off for no reason. At least that's commiting to something
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>>290930620
Who the hell was that snake?
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>>290930500
That was the bakery friends and Mari
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>>290930599
A kiss is at least conclusive. Means Lara will eventually come back to Mari. What we have right now is too vague.
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I have a feeling no one actually watches the anime here
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>>290930644
>So the message of this story is the same as Disney's Frozen? Is that what you're getting at?
No Frozen was about family love, this seems to be a metaphor for grief and suicide and true love is living and experiencing life itself.
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>>290930598
I think you would have a better time consuming western works, probably by netflix or something similar, than consuming Japanese works.

>>290930616
>Mari gives Lara an unconditional home, grounding Lara's worth in everyday support rather than romantic idealization
>The kingdom is restored when Lara heals generational trauma and reclaims her love for her family, not through a prince's kiss
>Exposure to human warmth, community, and simple everyday joys inspires Lara to live for the world around her
>Overcoming guilt and learning self-love allows Lara to break the cycle of self-sacrifice and dissolve the ancient curse
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>>290930616
>one of which saved the merfolk kingdom
And then she turns around and says Grace and her dream (that Grace herself forced into an exclusive opposition) are still beautiful. Grace refutes Rowan's suggestion that she's trying to develop light in her own way when her dream is to leave that obligation behind and live on the surface.
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>>290930665
Don't reply to the troll.
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Luca won
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The guy doesn't know how Kota ends. What does that mean?
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>>290930697
>Japanese works never ever feature confirmed gay romance!
>What is Utena?
>What is Sailor Moon?
>What is CLAMP?
>What is all the independent yaoi and yuri manga?
Tourist confirmed.
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>true love is about finding yourself and riding the cock carousel

At last, I see...
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>>290930484
The only way I can see it being satisfying is if it was a tragic separation. Lara can't be together with Mari because it would endanger her or something.

They confess their love and kiss. Then Lara is forced to part, the show highlights the fact that she's going to break her promise of baking a big cake for Mari.
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>>290930714
Because he wasn't originally merfolk and he reverted back or some shit
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>>290930599
Nah, I don't care about a kiss, I just wanted Lara and Mari to be together, not even romantically, just them being together living a normal life, pure slice of life (what I liked the most about this anime). But if what has been going around is true and Lara leaves Mari, this would be awful leaving the most sour taste in my mouth. That shit of "let the one you love go" and "travel to find yourself" has been overplayed to death. I didn't want to accept it, but it seems we are not allowed to have regular sweet endings, everything has to be subversive, liberating and empowering.
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>>290930743
It's immigration laws. The real enemy of the hwhite woman in nippon.
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Can't believe there are actual fags willing to defend that dogshit ending here
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I'm guessing all the usual normal posters left the thread to avoid spoiler
Oh well
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>>290930759
None of it was subversive
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Yes, I too would trust the Chinese to not shitpost for free.
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>>290930784
They spent 11 weeks making this show their identity.
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>>290930604
>If Grace and Lara's dream is redefined as living on the surface rather than finding true love in another person
This makes it feel like the anime was written to overcorrect the criticisms the Disney Little Mermaid received about Ariel giving up everything including her voice “just for a man.” One of the common counterarguments to that was that Ariel was really always interested in the human world in general and Eric was just the catalyst for her to finally summon up enough courage to pursue her dream. Sayonara Lara feels like it was based around the premise of Ariel’s “true love” really being the human world.
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>>290930697
This shit you're talking about was already established in the first half of the show. There was genuinely no point in keeping Lara running in circles for more episodes when she had already arrived to these conclusions early and without effect
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Honestly the leaks sound fine up until that train ending. Are we sure it’s not just Lara getting her own place?
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We need to do something about the epidemic of Jap writers using Christian imagery without knowing a thing about Christianity.
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>>290930743
>the show highlights the fact that she's going to break her promise of baking a big cake for Mari.
What is this, some kind of Goodbye to Lara?
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>>290930742
Just like Silent Hill F
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Fuck this show I’m gonna rewatch Utena
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>>290930742
Lara probably doesn’t even know how human sex works
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>>290930789
The entire story is about getting away from a conservative family that charges you with getting married and having kids to secure a future for the palace. Lara ends up in a wacky progressive household with herbivore widower dad, punk with a heart of gold older brother, mma youngest daughter, and grandma is a priest in that weird foreign religion about love, self-sacrifice, and forgiveness.

>>290930846
It's just non-committal because then we get scenes where she literally gushes over Mari
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>>290930869
I mean to them Christianity's just another foreign religion with cool imagery. Much like how >we see Greek religion.
At worse they're seen as a cult with apocalyptic beliefs.
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>>290930869
>Original Little Mermaid was a metaphor for suicide and a cautionary tale about having enough self-esteem and self-worth in yourself not to commit it just because your loved one rejects you, which is a very Christian theme
>Nip version follows the exact same premise and “true love” turns out to be life itself
>”Nips don’t understand Christianity!!!”
I think it’s you who doesn’t understand Christianity and Christian themes dear anon.
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I can't believe I fell for the yuribait AGAIN.

How do I cope, bros?
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>>290930914
The mermaids don't have tits. They have no need for sexual organs either
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Leaks, if they are real, are of really poor quality, so they make what happens sound stupid when it's probably actually very good episode. They also clearly leave out what is actually said between Lara and Mari. It will be much more emotional and yuriful. But no kiss is obviously them chickening out. It wouldn't happen if Mari were a guy.
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>>290930671
>Who the hell was that snake?
he was literally me
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>>290930937
Aquatope was the final warning, you should know better about girls and fish by now
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>>290930937
Never watch an original with two female protagonists while it's airing again.
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>>290930864
The logistics of Lara getting her own place sound absurdly implausible when she has no legal documentation, basic education or income
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>>290930864
Sayonara generally implies a final or longterm indefinite goodbye. It's not really something that implies you're seeing each other next week.
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>>290930960
I can believe that, but the train scene really just feels like it comes out of nowhere. I will say the way they talk about that part sounds funny with the whole “yes, that’s right, she actually does say goodbye”
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>>290930711
Hey guys, check this out
Ruri Rocks is yuri btw
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>>290931018
>>290931020
I’m just trying to create context that isn’t there lmao. Like I said I think everything that happens in the leaks is reasonable for a non-explicit ending but that specific part feels like a shoehorned writing choice
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Still a week left of seethe and cope
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You know this show is kind of like G-Witch if Suletta was a princess and the love interest was Nika and Chuchu combined into one character.
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>>290931058
I'll leave that to other people, I reached acceptance five seconds after the chink leak got sourced because I could never shake the feeling this show was too good to be true.
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What I can't get over is that Grace just had a crappy pointless death that didn't mean anything. That felt like just bad writing.
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>>290931043
You wish
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>>290931058
Less than two days. Preview will be up and Donut will post his impression of the episode, even if he doesn't spoil it we'll likely get a good idea from his opinion
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Rowan’s plan still doesn’t make sense to me because doesn’t he know consuming the soul of your lover makes you a witch?
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>>290931074
>No yaoibait
G-Witch at least had that to it’s name.
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>>290931099
>bad writing
There he is lol
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So is it yuribait or not? I've heard people say from the leaks that Lara leaves Mari, never to see her again and they just part as friends, to saying/coping that Lara's just doing "Journey of self-discovery/See the world as a human" shit with the implication she plans to return to Mari one day.
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the ending was already decided from the start, I feel like they would’ve been better off cutting down the cast a little. What was even the point of Lisa and Kota? Especially Kota—they’re basically nothing more than Lisa’s sidekick.
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>>290931139
Does he even know that? It's not like he was there to see it
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>>290931074
Always thought Koide was inspired by SuleMio in making this.
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>>290931114
>Het erasure
Based anime
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>>290931157
I find it hilarious they accidentally made Kota a tranny.
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>>290931179
Is that why Lara has red hair? I always thought it was a homage to Disney’s Ariel rather than Suletta.
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>>290931176
Nobody knows the truth, only Mari knows.
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>>290931176
So is he just making shit up? Why would he do that when the fate of his entire race is on the line?
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>>290931150
"Leaving your loved ones in journey to find yourself" and then coming back after many years is the trope I hate the most.
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Honestly the entire setup of the mermaid society feels like utter nonsense. It doesn't make any sense.
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I just find it so hard to believe that we spend all this time with Mari coming to the conclusion that she’s lonely and wants companionship just for her to turn around and let her closest person leave alone. At the very least travel with her
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>>290931157
I'd say Luca's addition goes nowhere if that leaked ending is true. There were better ways to make Lara get over her experience with the prince without adding a whole character to deviate the plot for several episodes if her true love wasn't going to be romantic anyway
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>>290930912
>Utena
Say what you will about Ikuhara, he’s pretty much the only one in the industry who’s willing to give the middle finger to corporate and go full-blown homo, whether yuri or yaoi. For that everyone should respect him.
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>>290918380
He easily gets mad at Ruri Rocks because it's an AOTY-tier anime that doesn't have a"yuri slayer"
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>>290931275
I’d say it’s bad writing but apparently that’s not an acceptable term on here
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>>290931275
>I just find it so hard to believe that we spend all this time with Mari coming to the conclusion that she’s lonely and wants companionship just for her to turn around and let her closest person leave alone.
The whole point of the anti-suicide message of this and the Hans Christian Andersen original is to be okay with being alone and having enough self-worth that you don’t define yourself through other people.
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>>290931182
Cute ojisan onahole
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Kota is a hero who shows that love can come from anywhere, while Mari's brother is just a strange boy with no spotlight in the story.
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muh secret sympathetic girlboss villain was the stupidest twist and now this show fell 6 places in my AOTS ranking
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>>290931275
She also lost Gon-chan. Kind of bullshit how Mari gave up so much Lara, even sacrificing her own life, just for Lara to leave. I wonder if she offered to pay for Mari's broken windows at least?
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>>290931297
Made for ugly bastard
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>>290931330
Sure but is that the arc Mari is getting? Everything we’ve gotten so far pointed to her coming to terms with the fact she had found new people in her life to care about.
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This ending seems so unfair for Mari
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>>290931336
>>290931359
>Ojisan gets to fuck Ruri Rocks AND Hibikek bitches
Holy based
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>>290931373
Exactly, the whole thing about Mari is that she now has people on her side who align with her dead mother's wish, and not about "oh, being lonely is ok" like wtf is that
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>>290931350
Lara owes Mari at least one clam smashing after all the things Mari did for her.
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mind you that I came from weibo where all the leaks originally came from and they were saying the same thing before deleting their post. By any means it doesn't mean it is a bad ending, just conservative. Pretty much the leaks here are a spot on, the goodbye will happen exactly as described.
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>>290931429
In the end, she's indeed alone, and her mother's wish went nowhere
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>>290931451
>just conservative
Ikuhara is rolling in his revolutionary grave.
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>>290931451
“conservative” is everything the leaks did before the ‘goodbye’ ending

“shitting the bed” is tacking on the ‘goodbye’ ending which is a nonsensical edition to end the story with
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>>290930869
Simple, we kill Anno.
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>>290931363
Nice call back to Lara and Mari sleeping in the car together and the parents acknowledging they look like siblings.
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If Lara’s goodbye to Mari is going to be a long-term separation until Mari becomes a boxing champion, then was there really any need for Mari’s mother to say, “I hope you meet someone who will walk alongside you, heading in the same direction”?

I just can’t imagine them going years without seeing each other over something as minor as moving from Otsu to Kobe. That would feel incredibly cold. So I’m guessing the ending was written in a way that hints at something more than what was mentioned in the spoiler post.
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>>290931451
that’s a bad ending, anon
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>>290931502
Or it's just fake
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>>290931502
She'll have Luca.
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>>290931502
The leaker said they didn’t really understand why Lara left and it kinda just happens, so honestly it might just mean fuck all and not even be contributing to any of the supposed ‘themes’ of the show
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>>290931451
No matter how you look at it it's a bullshit ending, i get that she wants to have a journey to find herself, but literally goodbye?? Like forever, wtf?
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>look up this Ruri Rock thing
>anime from exactly 1 year ago
neat 10 years after Hibike we have another anime whose only legacy is to be used as shitposting material on other threads
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>>290931502
Well, anon, that’s because it is a shitty ending.
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Hey assholes, you're already shitting up the threads here. Stay out of /u/.
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Once again we need to accept that this shows writing is simply flawed. Things won’t make sense because the creators used a vibes-based system to construct everything. None of it has meaning because they didn’t want it to and didn’t care enough, and use the guise of “audience interpretation” as an excuse
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>>290931502
Wouldn't be the first time an anime/manga sets up a bunch shit just to forget about it before the ending hits
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What does Ruri Rocks have to do with this show?
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>>290931599
So you're adding this to your rotation of shitposts about "bad writing?"
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The moment Mari doesn't look away from what she wants, she ends up losing both gon chan and Lara
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Pic related
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>>290931650
Meant for >>290931599
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>>290931639
Don’t quote bad writing as if that’s not what this ending is
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>>290931650
>>290931663
Exactly my point. This scene was just them wanting to make a cool sequence out of something. People were reading way too much into it
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This anime having a terrible ending reminds of Sakugan, what a mess. A very promising first episode and then it went downhill til the end.
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>>290931650
that bit where Lara said the merfolk will cause a tsunami to wash away all of SEA really came out of nowhere
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>>290931599
Just like Utena, then?
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>>290931696
Do you want another repost of the "who is your true love" .webm?
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>>290931665
You're shitposting about something that hasn't aired
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>>290931723
say what you want about Utena but that shit was laser focused on what it wanted to be
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Gon-chan...
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>>290931704
Well, the novel about this still continues.
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Gon-san...
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>>290931778
That ending destroyed all the goodwill.
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>>290931760
and what it wanted to be of course is about cowbells
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>>290930355
Hans Christian Andersen was a homofaggot.
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>>290931789
Mari solos
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Would there be as much complaining if they took the het route and she ended up with Luca or would it be even worse?
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>>290930427
Whilst completely true, what exactly did the retards think would happen when they decided to show the finale a week early?
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>>290931815
As long as Lara stays with Mari and her family, I guess it would be acceptable.
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Did anyone else not connect with this episode at all?
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>>290931799
>Hans Christian Andersen was a homofaggot.
Yeah considering it’s well known he was always gay and The Little Mermaid is considered an ubiquitous allegory for LGBT love, wouldn’t it make more sense to have Lara end up with Mari as her true love in no holds barred yuri? I feel that would’ve been truer to the spirit of the original.
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>>290931815
Any ending would be fine if they committed to it from the start. Not this wishy-washy bullshit.
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Well this just means Mari is still free for the taking. I'm booking a flight to Shiga, sayonara fucking losers!
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>>290931815
I guess the yumes would be happy at least. Not sure who will be satisfied by the ending we're about to get though. I guess it really depends on how they execute it.
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>>290931860
If you’re not a red-haired autistic mermaid she won’t be interested.
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>>290931836
A flashback episode just before the finale is certainly an idea.
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fih
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>>290931836
On one hand I think it's very good but on the other hand the leaks make me wonder if it was really necessary
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>>290931836
Yeah, honestly I didn't feel much of anything. I was like "This is sad", but didn't actually feel sad. Dunno if I explained myself correctly.
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>>290931280
>There were better ways to make Lara get over her experience with the prince without adding a whole character to deviate the plot for several episodes
I like their awkward dates. They were cute and funny.
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>>290930046
No way, because how disappointing the "main story" for the "main protagonist" is.

For now the AOTS is A Witch in Mongol.
Sayonara Lara may have good visuals, but Mongol is also incredible in that department, with better direction.
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>>290931836
It's a flashback episode so there wasn't much to connect with to begin with
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>>290930732
>>Japanese works never ever feature confirmed gay romance!
I never said this, i said your obsession for subvertion for the sake of subvertion is not a common thing in Japanese works
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>>290931836
It was ok. I didn't feel sad for Grace but I did feel sad for Mari. The last part with the mirror shattering and Mari crying hit me hard.
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>>290931464
Wait what is Ikuhara dead?
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>>290931973
>subvertion for the sake of subvertion is not a common thing in Japanese works
it is though
just not about this
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>>290931848
>LGBT love
The absolute state

>>290930861
>This shit you're talking about was already established in the first half of the show
Then why are you asking
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>>290931993
It isnt
You should stick to your stunning and brave gay works
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>>290931952
Not that I disliked them or Luca, it's just that some parts of the show feel unnecessary if the leaked ending is real and could've turned into something else to set it up better
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>>290930046
Yes, despite yurifags turning on the anime because it doesn't appeal to their fetishes it is still AOTS
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>>290932016
you know I'm right
you should also know I'm not referring to homoshit but I guess your brain is too scrambled to see left from right
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if that's the ending, well shit, feel bad for Mari
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>>290931973
>subvertion for the sake of subvertion is not a common thing in Japanese works
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I wanted FFM friendship...
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>>290931836
Grace backstory was fine even if I predicted most of it pretty early on. Ending just made me feel very sad for Mari. Forget yuri, she just wants a friend.
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>>290932051
>common
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>>290932035
unfortunately there are anime airing this season that do appeal to my fetishes so this isn't going to overcome this major demerit
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>>290931973
>subvertion for the sake of subvertion is not a common thing in Japanese works
What is Madoka?
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So is the ending yuribait or not?
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>>290932066
>That pic
Idol schizo in a nutshell
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>>290932066
Forget Yuri, Mari just wants someone at her side, and all the things Mari does to Lara, for her to end up leaving her, is just way too sad, i don't even think this is a bittersweet ending because it's more like bitter than sweet
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>>290932080
A deconstruction, not subvertion

>>290932113
It is
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Mari should have been a boy. She's already written like one.
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>>290932124
>A deconstruction, not subvertion
Deconstruction is a type of subversion.
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mother's death, gon-chan's death, lara leaving her
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>>290932059
Cute throuple
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>>290932148
A subversion is something that goes against the expectations or its predetermined path. Often used in comedy, but not always, and it's only a subversion if it's punctuated as what it subverts before the "twist".

On the other hand, a deconstruction is something that analyses the way a trope works, whether that's loopholes or just proving that they don't really make sense or are problematic. Not to be confused with a reconstruction, where a solution to these issues is then offered at the end.
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>>290932066
>>290932121
You shouldn't make your happiness dependent of a person
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>>290929899
so is this show good?
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>>290932232
It is pretty good, yeah. Especially if you aren't a shiptard
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>>290932059
You will get what you want
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askng laramari to live for love and not for laws has got the be the most unsubtle queer allegory ever thank you sayolara
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New spoiler fresh from Tieba:
There will be a movie called Hello Lara with a 6 year time skip where Lara returns to Shiga looking for Mari, regretful and convinced to finally settle down after her finding herself journey left her disappointed of men. However, she finds Mari happily married to Luca as a traditional Christian family. Lara turns into a fish and becomes the pet of Mari and Luca's kid. The end.
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>>290931297
Please don't involve RR in your yuri schizophrenia
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I want to make Mari happy and make sure she never feels lonely again.
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>>290932350
We know, Luca.
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>>290932350
Calm down, Lara- wait! You're leaving!
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>>290932350
If no one else will, I suppose I can marry this prince...
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Lara will taste every type of dick in Japan
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>>290932350
We know, Gon-chan!
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>>290932066
Luca can be her friend
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I want to spoil Gon-chan with lots of cake!
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>>290932215
The thing is, the narrative sets it up like Mari will have someone at her 'side' to look at the future 'together' with her mother's wish, not that "happiness doesn't depend on a person", so ofc people would get thrown off by it and feel the ending is unfair to Mari
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>>290932274
well, it would be if she didn’t ditch her girlfriend to explore the world alone in the last minute
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>>290932440
Like, I'm sorry what is the purpose of that flashback if, in the end, she doesn't have anyone at her side? Like, it goes nowhere
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>>290932440
>>290932519
Honestly, I’d totally be down for an ending where Lara wants to go off on adventures and experiencing everything the world has to offer, but Mari should be doing that alongside her. It’s not like she can’t be training to become a boxing champion at the same time
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What would kill it for yurifags would be if Lara isn't even implied to date Mari, at least for a while like she dated Luca, before she sets on her erotic journey of self-discovery.
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If it’s true that Lara was headed in the direction of Kobe I think there’s some larger airports in that area so she’s definitely going off to experience the world
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>>290932600
Who's paying for this? Lisa?
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>She answered the call
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>>290932440
Lara leaving Mari would be Grace leaving Rigmor all over again. The story should let Mari and Lara be together to fix that mistake.
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>>290929899
Why did Rigmor die?



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