GT16 Chapter 2 & 3 are outhttps://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:GT_Volume16_Chapter2
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>>291030835an indirect kiss is better than most girls
>>291030984I should congratulate Misaka then because she got that first.
>>291030390Is this really all Himegami is getting?
>>291031019das rite!
>>291031169She got more pagetime than Mikoto's and Index's scenes combined. That's actually astonishing. We also got to see a brand new proactive (and aggressive) side to her, so I think she ate pretty good this volume.
>>291031570Yeah, but Index and Mikoto are guaranteed to keep appearing.
>>291031019Misaki was the first one. Also when did Misaka’s happen?
>>291032071The hot dogs from OT5
>>291032071Misaki was the whistle, right?
>>291030835Potential Love Interest of Raildex?
>>291031616Assuming Kamachi doesn't do another week-long timeskip out of nowhere, Touma's probably going to be in the girls' dorm for at least another few volumes. Himegami will surely get another shot at raping him during that time.At least as long as he isn't immediately dragged off to ingerland again. Surely not, right?
>>291032239>Potentialhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WOCntkuIXds
>>291032314At least it sounds like GT17 is not his time yet
>>291032228https://mangadex.org/chapter/b26ddac8-da61-44b1-afc2-2c35c60ad56d/1
ITEM volume 7 cover has been revealed.Mugino's first solo cover.
>>291033201Actually not a solo cover, since she's sharing it with her two best friends.
>>291033201Bros... she's cute.
>>291033201Mugino looking stunned while the petals slip through her fingers and fly away.Something absolutely fucked is gonna happen this volume, isn't it?
>>291033201>>291033621I think Kamachi is writing Item to get rid of some stress.
>>291032955>I'm greeted by sweaty LolisaskiWHEW, laddy. Touma never knew how good he had it.>>291033201Cute Moogs.
>>291030390>>291030835She is the champion of failing. Pre memory loss Touma basically fell for her and she still fumbled somehow.
>>291033201Now that it’s front and center, I’ve noticed that Mugino’s chest size has been rather inconsistent.
>>291033201>PetalsUiharu=Aihana confirmed
>>291033621>Something absolutely fucked is gonna happen this volume, isn't it?It's showdown time.
>Petals slipping through her fingers and casting shadows on her face.Aihana's gonna fuck with Mugino and slip away at the last moment again huh?>>291036028So that's why last year's Uiharu was missing most of the flowers on her headband. Mugino fuckin ripped them off in a last-ditch attempt to catch Aihana (or some shit lol).
>>291033201This looks like some other character cosplaying Mugino.
>>291036028>>291036232>>291036272If Uiharu/Aihana doesn't molest her a little then it will be boring
As punishment for intentionally cockblocking Touma, Othinus will get the punishment of being Index’s chew toy for a month.
>>291036709Mugino will sell her body to Aihana if it means that they wouldn’t target her and her team.
>>291037376Index would swallow her within the first 5 minutes.
>>291036709>Uiharu is secretly a worse pervert lesbian than Kuroko
>>291037928Better to be eaten by Index instead of Touma.
>>291032314He’s probably going to get attacked during a random night within the week.
>>291039548By Misaki and Seria, looking to steal his purity!
>>291039613Misaki and Misaka are tsundere besties but Misaki and Seria still genuinely hate each other.Threesome with Seria making Misaki deepthroat the dragon and then Misaki sits her fat ass on Seria's face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgexDbA5AK8
>>291039833Misaki probably doesn’t even have the capability to stand up without help, so that might lead to Seria losing consciousness under her ass.
>>291031169Feels like she appeared more in GT than the other testaments.
>>291036028Imagine Uiharu usual shit talking but 100 times more brutal
>>291030390Touma’s enjoying life for the first (and maybe last) time, while Hamazura is getting his dick smashed and mentally tortured by forcefully imagining Takitsubo getting fucked by Mugino and Coronzon by Touma.
>>291032314The one volume was a modern miracle. Him not getting roped into whatever's going on across the pond is only possible if he's not mentioned at all next volume. Even then he might still somehow be on his way.
>>291040977Seria, pls. Pick up your spaghetti, put on your big girl pants, and ask Touma out.
>>291043034>Takitsubo getting fucked by MuginoAs if he never had to see that already
Misaki's extremely kissable lips.
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>>291033621I got a feeling that Mugino is going to lose her entire family. Likely at the end of Item, but I just have a feeling it will happen.
>>291044102*smooch*>>291044607What's lady O'brian got to do with anything?
>>291044102>Comedically realistically drawn lips.
>>291037784Imagine the sex
>>291045793And it worked. Misaki being so self conscious about the indirect kissu that her lips are drawn realistically is what sets up the joke.
>>291046723I just find it funny that Nogi draws Touma with the smallest hands possible everytime he appears, while he draws the female characters as voluptuous while being as close to model as possible.
>>291047264The problem of drawing almost nothing but women. I want him to get a non tokiwadai spin off just to see the bulldyke battle royale.
>>291046407Must’ve been so good that it caused Aihana to never target them again in the main year of the series.
>>291047264>>291047346I think it's mostly what this anon says. He's so used to drawing nothing but girls and women on a monthly basis that he probably finds it hard to not screw up the hand proportions on males. If you look at the hands themselves, they're always well drawn and as anyone that's ever even picked up a pencil can tell you, drawing hands is pretty fucking hard.
>>291047924If Aihana does turn out to be Uiharu, I have a theory. There is a chapter(97.5) after Frenda's death and right before the Jailbreaker arc drops shadow form Uiharu and ideal power Uiharu, in it she acts kinda weird. It is Uiharu and Saten walking all over town talking about rumors and a lot of things Uiharu says in the chapter make a bit more sense if she is Aihana Etsu.So child Aihana in ITEM, the Darksides Bane has killed at least one person themself and their actions have in a round about way led to the deaths of a lot of people unintentionally, it is implied that they are feeling very guilty about this and that Kihara Noukan himself is hunting them. In NT / GT the heat seems largely off them and they are no longer this mythic figure "the Darksides Bane". I can't imagine them evading Noukan for long.To get back to that chapter, it starts with Uiharu describing to Saten an urban legend where a boy is about to commit suicide on a roof before being confronted by Noukan who talks them down. Uiharu knows the location of the roof and the dogs personality. I do not think this was an urban legend that Saten somehow missed, I think it was Uiharu explaining how she restarted her life after her one girl war on the Darkside and became a Judgement officer. After all the deaths, she wanted an out and Noukan offered her a better one than suicide. I think the new arrangement with Noukan is that she uses Judgement resources to find victims and then gives them the power to resolve things themselves by lending them their name which allows them to become their ideal self. Instead of waging war, she tips the scale to favor the victims and it is no coincidence the first major Aihana story in NT was an investigation into what happened to Saten's missing friend.
>>291048832>Uiharu is Aihana theory actually is possible.Didn’t even notice that Saten didn’t recognize the urban legend Uiharu gave. I hate the fact this theory is actually likely.
>>291048832Sounds plausible but the timeline is a bit off. Uiharu is already in Judgment even by the current point of ITEM's story. The post office robbery will be happening around this point or in one or two volumes.Aihana vs Noukan standoff would probably happen near the end of ITEM's story once Aihana gets too desperate or guilt-ridden. Aleister's started getting annoyed at Aihana's antics by volume 6 but more big shit would have to happen going forward for him to sic the dog on her.I agree that Aihana meeting Noukan is probably the catalyst the started the name-lending scheme, but I'm not entirely sure why Uiharu knows so much about the encounter considering there's likely something of a mental barrier between Aihana mode and Uiharu mode. It usually takes some serious stress to bring out Aihana (OT15, Jailbreaker). I suppose we have almost zero information regarding how their personas are separated, so anything goes for now I guess.
>Frenda first mentioned the 6wings in IT2, despite them not existing yet>Mugino triggers the creation of the 6wings by wrecking tons of 2wings in IT4>Frenda implies that she somehow knows when she's going to die>In IT5 Aihana says that Mugino actually mentioned the 6wings back in IT2>6wings debut in IT6>Frenda somehow gained information from the future while Aihana covered up the fact that she knew it>Frenda is going to be absent in IT7, the same novel where Aihana will be most active>Frenda dies on the same day the 6wings are deployed>Frenda can befriend anyone>One of Aihana's goals is to elevate Hamazura into the 3rd hero to help stop the timeline from imploding>After becoming the 3rd hero, Hamazura saves Fremea and keeps her safe>Aihana helps Frenda's friend Kanou Shinka grow up into someone who can manage without Frenda in NT12Frenda and Aihana have been in league since the very beginning huh? Their goals are aligned too.
>>291049112>Sounds plausible but the timeline is a bit off. Uiharu is already in Judgment even by the current point of ITEM's story. The post office robbery will be happening around this point or in one or two volumes.It's October now and the Post Office chapter doesn't give a date but the trees are completely barren so it is probably a month or two later.> Aleister's started getting annoyed at Aihana's antics by volume 6 but more big shit would have to happen going forward for him to sic the dog on her.He's already been sicced since Vol 3.>Kihara Noukan readily admitted it, his thick luxury cigar waggling in his mouth.>Even though knowledge of this bombshell could bring all kinds of trouble.>“This isn’t like those imitators. My target is the true symbol of justice lurking in thedeepest depths of this city.”>“The Dark Side’s Bane. The #6,” spat Hanano Choubi.He is hunting Aihana.>Aihana vs Noukan standoff would probably happen near the end of ITEM's story once Aihana gets too desperate or guilt-ridden. I think this or the next novel is it. No idea how far Kamachi tries to take this side series but even if Aihana gets dethroned as The Darkside's Bane, doesn't mean they can't be an ally to ITEM.BTW, take a look at the post-office story, Uiharu is struggling when it starts and when Shirai asks why she joined, it was "because the people around me suggested I try Judgement". Not her own convictions, not teachers, friends or classmates, the people around me, very interesting wording.>The nature of my power means I cannot bring aboutjustice on my own. So I am always thinking about who I can side with to ensure the goodguys win. I lend out the name of Aihana Etsu as a part of that.”Uiharu also has a kinda flimsy excuse to why she is at that post office in the wrong district, the one that happens to be robbed and cements her friendship with a powerful Lvl4 Teleporter. Be amazing if we get this chapter from Aihana's perspective in ITEM.
>>291049240>Frenda and Aihana have been in league since the very beginning huh? Their goals are aligned too.In Volume One they introduced The Voice on the Phone as a master of disguises and later have her dress up as a member of ITEM. That seems like a very deliberate choice. Frenda dies while the Voice on the Phones are being targeted, maybe a worried Voice might think the safest place for one to be is right next to a Lvl 5 that thinks of her(disguise) as a friend. When the Voice on the Phone next appears in Russia, she is a taller woman, wears a helmet and does not act like Hanano at all, but ITEM established they use decoys and get replaced.
>>291049536Post office robbery was mentioned as being in autumn so it's most likely late october -> november so coming up pretty soon.>He's already been sicced since Vol 3.Lol I'm a dumbass forgot he was already there.Good additional points. My only remaining issue is that I think it'd be a bit premature to have Noukan catch up to Aihana right away in volume 7. I'd kinda like some more buildup of the chase before then, especially from Noukan's perspective.
>>291049605Aihana has also been fucking with Hanano, causing her to act more recklessly. I think Aihana might be subconsciously training Hanano to put her in the right state of mind to get her to fuck up in just the right way at the right time.I can imagine one of ITEM's final scenes could be where on October 8th Frenda and Aihana are meeting in the dianoid to discuss how everything's been set up: Frenda accepts that she dies tomorrow, but said death will ensure her sister's safety, and Aihana promises that she'll make sure Kanou Shinka will be alright and Saten won't be alone on dinner night and all that. Right then Hanano barges in, disguised as Frenda to get past any biometric security systems and shoots Frenda, taking her out of the game early, and she thinks she's won. But Aihana's like oh no I sure hope you don't intend to take Frenda's place tomorrow or some shit, anything but that! That'll ruin everything! Then Aihana flees with wounded Frenda to go into hiding and Hanano's grinning like a smug dumbass, thinking she's foiled Aihana's whole plan and whatnot.
>>291049865Can't believe Frenda has beeen alive all this time in Uiharu's secret rape dungeon
One of the colour illustrations has also been revealed.>>291050498When she looks like this, a sex dungeon is where she belongs.
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Why don't they just ask Touma on a date. Are they stupid?
>>291050641Himegami just did and got iron-walledMisaka Imouto just did and got shockblocked
>>291050584Frenda might be the Toaru girl that wore swimsuits the most
>>291050641High Priest did and Touma was so happy until he saw the sender was actually an old man
If the letter sender was a real girl, he would 100% get cockblocked since Seria and Misaka were so ready to bury him in the mountain
>>291050584Was Takitsubo always bigger than Mugino?
>>291052403It's backwards. Mugino eventually ate enough salmon bentos for her tits to fatten enough to catch up.
>>291051281This incident alone gave Touma the biggest trust issues possible.
>>291048832does aihana even matter nowadays? like what's even left in terms of hype/expectations for the reveal? the load has been held back for so long that i don't even know if the gunpowder is good to ignite anymoreso much outrageous world-ending shit has happened already, what could aihana possibly do to compare?
>>291053435In the grand scheme of things? Almost certainly fuck all. But it's interesting and it seems to touch on weird possibilities and time shenanigans.
>>291030390i've basically read none of this over the years, yet i am only here to salute js06
>>291053435It depend on how far will Aihana go to get rid of all the bad stuff aeound, for all we know they may go full Fiamma
>Pure Science Side character>actually relevant in the modern time ToAru
>>291054202>for all we know they may go full Fiammaso what?>academy city being destroyedhappened multiple times>world waralready happened>world destructionalready happened like 3 times
>>291052403This artist is pretty inconsistent with Mugino's boobs.
>>291054243>modernyou mean anytime
>>291054634There was a chance early OT when the rollercoaster hit a lull going from the world destroying angel to wind crossbow man and Sherry. That door was closed when gods right seat appeared, sealed with gremlin, and removed from the timeline with true gremlin.
>>291054856And Coronzon, along with everyone after her.
>>291054856Kinda halfway got there with Yuiitsu. She is used a bit of magic but she got there through science. The only caveat is that like all science antagonist she won't step a single toe outside AC.
>>291054462You will have it happen another time and love it
>>291054462I think you may have to stop reading
>>291057639Speaking of Railgun, when is the last volume releasing? I heard it would be in September.
>>291055646True gremlin is the cut off where there's absolutely no chance for a pure science main boss, as seen with coronzon and the transcendents that came after. Even in general we now have Accel who has outsourced magic, Touma's whatever the hell's going on with him, and Hamazura finally plunging into that side.
>>291059406Last science side antagonist was Hasuu in GT3 and 5. A science side character being the final boss of the testament was never going to happen from the start.
>>291059664It doesn't even have to be a final boss, but something that is more than a midboss. Like how Othinus wasn't a final boss but was definitely a main boss kind of thing. Yuiitsu was the closest but she needed St. Germain to do about 70% of what she got done.
>>291058702In october the 27th
>>291059968Swap Saten with Junko and it's perfect
>>291059784Honestly, the amount of bullshit that just the Roman Catholics have is ridiculous.The Croce di Pietro being able to just make everyone and everything under the area of effect under the will of the church. The damn ice boats could erase anyone and anything from history on whatever is connected to what they want to destroy no matter the distance. The C-document making what the pope says seems like the absolute truth to who hears him.All just in OT. In GT, Saint Georgios’s Fire could just destroy everyone in Academy City from within. GT14 “If Saint Georgios’s Fire were activated, everyone living in Academy City would die. No matter where they ran, they could not prevent their organs from rupturing from within.” Anyone who isn’t a powerful magician just loses. The Gregorian chant was also very similar to this group spell, but failed because Ars magna is even more bullshit being able to control the laws of the universe.
roman catholic is simply the ubermensch of religion in Toaru
>>291060288I love the Junkonator but that's a Railgun main characters image only, anon.
>>291061646Just stating a fact
>>291061646That's just anti-Saten anon, no point in responding to them.
>>291062328He's right though
which do you think is the main reason that mugino isn't popular compared to the other level 5s?>people liked frenda and are mad that she killed her>people don't like antagonist/villain characters>her spinoff didn't come until much later>she is jk instead of jcdo you think item getting an anime will make her as popular as the other 2?
>>291064473In Japan? She may become popular. In the West? No chances.
>>291064473>villain characters.Can’t be this one since everyone is obsessed with Accel. The others? Very likely yes.
>>291064473I doubt Gunha is more popular than her. Kakine gets all the fujos. The rest are just shilled way more than her, and there is no way she could catch up. Where MisaMisa mystically teleport to Touma's location every seven hours, Hamazura has a court ordered restraining order against Mugino.
>>291065988I think the bench scene was the arguably the best one in the volume so far, but it's funny how it literally been Dog instead of Misaki and it would have more or less the same.
>>291064473Boring power.
>>291044102>>291046723this the mental out manga? they're adapting NT 11 now?
>>291066814No, this is just a special chapter that’s a flashback and is disconnected to the main plot of Mental Out.
>>291064473>which do you think is the main reason that mugino isn't popular compared to the other level 5s?-She's not as well written as Accelerator, Misaki and Mikoto. Even if you factor out her lack of charisma and development compared to those three, she's part of a group whose dynamic Kamachi just refuses to acknowledge, let alone write well. Even now, he's yet to really establish how the group works like after the events of OT15, every issue they might have just gets swept under the rug instead. Everything we've seen in ITEM is how the team *used* to look like before the main story even began. -She doesn't have a powerset as interesting as any of the other level 5-She doesn't have as strong a supporting cast either. She killed Frenda, the member of her team people actually grew to like, and she barely interacts with Saiai, the best character in ITEM, imho.-her love interest is fucking Hamazura (eew), a guy who's already in a relationship btw.-She's a hag, or at least very hag coded. But, normalfags are cattle, and the simple fact that she'll be getting her own show and thus more screen time will make her more popular by default. There's almost nil chances she'll ever reach MisaMisa or Accelerator status.
Threesome with Kuroko and Uiharu
Bologna Succ...
>>291068143Really wish art like this was posted on places other than twitter, like danbooru. I am tired of just seeing porn instead of art like this. Also sex with B Succ.
>>291068696>Really wish art like this was posted on places other than twitter, like danbooru.Anon, Twitter is the artist posting their own art, Danbooru is Danbooru users posting art from other places, like Twitter. You use Danbooru, you can post it there.
>>291054243Was the last appearance of Aiwass back in GT9? Did he have an appearance after that? I don’t remember.
I just read a Kamisaki exhibitionist sex fanfic. Shit was so cash.
>>291069324He has one line in GT10 and is technically always with Anna.
>>291069689Shameful cow showing her udders to everyone and dragging an innocent normal boy down with her
Dumbest complaint I have ever heard on GT16 (so far). >“Touma randomly sits down on the bench next to her and... doesn't even bother looking at her, even when she tries to start a conversation, because he's busy navel gazing about how much he loves his status quo and is glad he didn't give up on returning to it. The opposite of love is pure indifference...”One, he literally can’t remember her, so how the hell can he even care. From his perspective, he’s just sitting next to a random woman he doesn’t recognize and is looking at the sunset. Two, the entire point of Touma being like this in GT16 is to show that he is reaffirming his decisions and is in relief on being able to live.
>>291070843To whom are you replying to, anon?
>>291071123An individual on an Index discussion thread on Spacebattles. I would shit on their complaints to their face, but I don’t care enough to make an account on there.
>>291070843>Dumbest complaint I have ever heard on GT16 (so far).Found the post, it was snipped a bit.>Misaki gets a brief section which is honestly kind of tragic. She's waiting on a bench to root for Junko, who didn't study for her entrance exams properly because of Kotatsu syndrome. Touma randomly sits down on the bench next to her and... doesn't even bother looking at her, even when she tries to start a conversation, because he's busy navel gazing about how much he loves his status quo and is glad he didn't give up on returning to it. The opposite of love is pure indifference...It isn't even a complaint, they were saying they felt bad for Misaki.>One, he literally can’t remember her, so how the hell can he even care. From his perspective, he’s just sitting next to a random woman he doesn’t recognize and is looking at the sunset.They clearly know that, that's what makes it tragic.
Misaki could do the most shameful stuff do have sex with Touma and it wouldn't be a problem because he will forget about it
>>291071566Not him, and if the guy who made the comment is a shipper or a Misakifag, I guess I see where he or she's coming from, but I can't agree with his conclusion. The schtick with Misaki is that she can never recover the relationship she had with Touma before his memory loss, nor create a new one, no? Then, by the same token, I wouldn't call Touma's indifference for Misaki (a stranger in his eyes every time they meet) as the opposite of love. In the context of a romantic relationship, complete indiference would be knowing someone is in love with you or at least interested, and you still not finding it in yourself to care about it, much less correspond. Like, I find Hamazura's relationship with Mugino, or better yet, what Kamisato feels about his haremettes, more accurate to what that guy said than Kamisaki.
How much longer is this Misaki gimmick going to go on? I’ve found it boring for quite some time now. I wish Kamachi would sort out the brain damage, even if it's bullshit
>>291072948By the end of the novel, she still won't get with Touma.
>>291073103I don't care about that, I’m just fed up with the fact that practically all of her scenes boil down to ‘muh, he can’t remember me’
>>291073286>I’m just fed up with the fact that practically all of her scenes boil down toI feel you...
>>291073538We know Index will win just because she's the first girl
>>291069689Speaking of fanfics, read one where a pre GT16 Touma is doing a “new game plus” starting from biohacker. Very good so far.
>>291076323Is he still unlucky?
>>291077743The assassin sisters fight occurs around his (middle school) dorm instead of the parking garage in the original, due to Touma taking Ayu there. Waiting for chapter 5 to see how the fight goes.
GT16 is done!
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:GT_Volume16_Chapter4
>>291079525>“You could say that. We have no emotions.”>One of the court officers – Elise – brushed back her hair with a hand, revealing a gruesome scar running behind her ear. It was a surgical scar.>“That needless fat has long since been physically removed.”Genuine crazy people. Removing part of their brain to get rid of emotions.
>SYSTEM.>System, system, sisstum!!”>Hamazura dug his nails into the wet stone wall, but not because he was trying to dig through the wall and escape. Information was spilling from his mind. Rapidly. Just like it was hard to explain your dream to someone no matter how wonderful it had been.>He had seen it.>In that final moment, he had seen something behind Kamijou Touma.>Yet it kept spilling away. Only the clear word SYSTEM remained as the information broke down like flesh sloughing off the bone.Is Hamazura becoming level 6??
>This demon used the ancient deity’s name despite having no connection to Roman mythology. To challenge False Jupiter Optimus Maximus was to battle a demon lord. That meant to regather all of the power that had come together to defeat Great Demon Coronzon. And if you couldn’t manage that, then your death was guaranteed. 100% guaranteed.>A meter wide hole.>And it didn’t end there. The roar of death continued unabated. The giant was filled with holes until it couldn’t maintain its form and fell apart. That which had been False Jupiter Optimus Maximus vanished as if fading into the air. Not even a shred remained.>This was more than a temporary miracle. It happened in an instant. Using an individual’s power, without gathering any companions.It had only taken a single raised hand in the shadow. From a distance.>…He didn’t understand how Anna Kingsford achieved her expert feats, but he only had to achieve a partial understanding.Funny as hell this basically confirms that Kingsford can one shot Coronzon and Othinus tier characters.
>Bongs become even more bloodthirsty when a demon isn’t manipulating their actions
>What does that look like to you, Hamazura Shiage?”>“…”>“Black soot is not an accurate description. You can see a red core in the grains less than a millimeter across, can’t you? They are essentially similar to tiny fish eggs. This is the Sitra Achra spreading endlessly as it awaits its wicked budding.”>“Angels and demons can reside in anything: weapons, charms, clothing, magic circles. Because they are a form of energy that can be contained in objects. Those black and red fish eggs are the result of a wicked plan to spread that concept to the entire world. All objects that come in contact with that black and red – an ordinary kitchen knife, a cutting board, a pencil, an eraser – will be remade into a spiritual item for summoning Coronzon until such things cover the entire planet. No, it will spread even beyond the planet.”>fish eggsUhhhhhh did Kamachi mean to use fish egg in the same he did in NT22 with the invisible thing? Is this why Coronzon seemed to understand what it was?
>>291072948You mean her scenes with Touma. Lucky for Misaki, she's got like at least three other venues for screen time and like 5 other prominent relationships with other characters. Poor Index or Himegami for example, get nothing. Not even real romantic scenes with Touma anymore. >>291075335That's technically Ayu though? Ayu for the win?
>>291081362England was mistake
>Narthex got turned into a potato that can only angel speak nowWould Index be mad about this?
>>291082930They're not actual sisters just a sister project. So it'd suck but she wouldn't cry over it.
Kamachi is being pretty heavy handed with the foreshadowing about SYSTEM this volume; it’s 100% what the GT climax will be about in the same way OT’s climax was about imagine breaker and NT’s was about Aleister and Lola
>>291080040I suppose you need that much to be considered a fair judge
>One idea was for him to go through a flashy awakening last volume and use magic against Kamijou>has whole flashy awakening>lands one hit because he doesn't see it coming>proceeds to no sell everything after and beat Hamazura's ass after his big momentAs hilarious as that would be, it's good he didn't.
New power ranking.DK Touma>=Full power Alice>CRC>>Johann(in hell)>=<Kingsford>>Aleister Kingsford>>GT12-13 Coronzon>true MGs full power>everyone else.This seems about right to me.
>>291085484>Alice couldn't escape the Spark net without the MG interference>Couldn't get by the ice balls>Couldn't perceive the magic gods approach or attacks>magic gods haven't been full power for more than half the seriesDon't give me that holding back shit which when everyone is at all times holding back.
>>291086774“A Magic God’s already ultimate power was being boosted further by another Magic God. Boosting, raising, buffing, multiplying – none of those words were sufficient to describe this. This was on another level entirely from their playtime at the student dorm.”MGs got one shotted immediately after.Anna Sprengel is at minimum as strong as Othinus, and could one shot an Aiwass who was as strong as Othinus.
>>291081023>>291085484I'd take that with a grain of salt. Coronzon was actually unkillable, it wasn't a power situation. You always needed bullshit fucking up her state of being to take her down. Plus demon lord =/= magic god. Kamachi always avoided comparing the "expert magician" thing to Magic gods. Which is pretty odd because he loves teasing things that could be magic god tier>St. Germaine>The Golden Dawn had MG fighting potential>Aiwass and Secret chiefs in general>Transcendents originally were said to have MG level destruction without the ability to bend the world and fix it>The narration straight up going nobody could predict how a fight between a Magic god and Alice would endThough they never really outright go x is stronger than a magic god
>>291087078>Aiwass who was as strong as Othinus.Aiwass with every advantage couldn't do anything to NT Coronzon and Niang Niang turned her into a pin cushion. Getting hit sparks is no Joke even when Coronzon was Word of God immortal the only time she made sure an attack didn't her in the original arc was when Niang Niang tried to stab her with sparks.
>>291081023LAShTAL was a god whose power was killing other gods and he was held off by the Amakusa and Agnese forces. Summons are jobbers. Gabriel was the only time they did anything.
>>291087193>>291087103The only times where Coronzon was injured by MGs was when she was protecting Hamazura from being killed, and when Aleister was weakening her. When she returned from the new world at the end of NT19, she was unharmed, bringing Neph and Niang Niang with her. None of the other MGs could escape the new world, since World Rejecter was said to work against even their full power. Coronzon is the only one to break in and out by brute force by accident.Also GT10 “Even if she was up against a being known as a god or a demon, or a human who had trained themselves up to the point that everyone would see them as such a thing, this version of Alice would likely crush them underfoot without them even realizing they had been killed.” Only reason this didn’t happen to Touma is because she didn’t want him to die.>>291087408LAShTAL was said to not have the power to destroy humanity and could just be spam summoned by Coronzon in a better state. Plus Osiris in GT15 was “More than that, Dion Fortune herself had once met a woman calling herself Magic God Nephthys in London. It wasn’t that she had been no match for her. The difference had been so overwhelming she couldn’t even work up the will to try and fight. And this god was ranked higher even than Nephthys in the ancient myths.” Dion lost offscreen.
>>291085484>Alice and CRC stronger than Magick GodsHere we go again. No, they're not, and neither are ANY of the trascendents.
>>291088170The fight between Coronzon and Niang continued well after Hamazura got away and Niang Niang was never targeting him. The magic gods don't want to leave world rejector land to begin with. Niang Niang was straight up happy when she first got sucked in. Neph had to resist throwing herself on his hand. It is literally a tool made by the magic gods in order to beat the magic gods
>>291088170>Also GT10 “Even if she was up against a being known as a god or a demon, or a human who had trained themselves up to the point that everyone would see them as such a thing, this version of Alice would likely crush them underfoot without them even realizing they had been killed.”And yet repeatedly with Touma's life on the line Alice hasn't been able to do this.
>>291060288>>291062328Why not both? In fact, why not everyone?https://files.catbox.moe/1t8n8d.png
>>291088554It said THIS FORM of Alice, aka the one at the end of GT10. Little girl Alice is still comparable to Neph and Niang. Also “To reiterate, if all she wanted to do was kill, Alice could have ended this much faster on her own. It was a complete mystery whether the Magic Gods or the Transcendent would survive, so she couldn’t afford any games or detours here. But she still left it with him. She let him take over. Because she didn’t want a repeat of what had happened, she had chosen to step off the stable path she could have taken. It had taken a while for her to reach this point, but she was still hesitant.”>>291088362Fight with the above GT12 quote for Alice. CRC is absolutely stronger than the MGs, due to Aleister and Coronzon being able to fight them for a prolonged period and both were unable to react to and got one shot by CRC barely trying while Aiwass was buffing them.
MGs versus anyone is the Gojo vs Sukuna of this franchise with the same 3 arguments back and forth.
>>291089195>CRC barely tryingAnd yes barely trying with the attack he use to bale himself out repeatedly because nobody realize it wasn't a CRC move which prevented them countering it. The same attack that little alice stopped with have flamingo bats which have since their introduction weren't even Alice's magic but a auto defense that prevented Alice from actually trying. The Same Alice that struggle with Magic god attacks GT 12. See where this logic path gets you.
>>291089195>mystery whether the Magic Gods or the Transcendent would surviveExactly even in the scenario where Alice just tries to kill them with no regards to anyone else it doesn't state which side it would land on. It's anybody's game.
Another good volume, I’m excited for us to get into the final arc soon
>>291089881CRC was already greatly injured from the fight with Touma, got his throat ripped out when he wasn’t expecting it, and got his CRC persona removed to return into a wrinkled Johann before he even attacked. GT9 prologue “That one attack had been lethal. Using only your own body to produce any and all spells meant that physical damage placed a drastic restriction on your actions.” Kingsford got the same wound he did, and was said to have gotten weaker from it.>>291089957GT14 quotes “If the old Alice didn’t have enough help, she might have multiplied her extraordinary self. That might sound ridiculous, but with her it was possible. But now she knew that wouldn’t work. She needed the diversity of people who had abilities she lacked. Alice was not gathering up the people she needed. She was trying to become someone the people around her needed.” Along with “The girl can destroy! The girl can kill! The girl can doom! Nothing in this world can stand up to the girl!! …But the girl’s power can’t protect her teacher. So the girl is useless here. She needs your help!”>>291089994Yeah it’s good. Very interested in the pathway everyone is heading towards.
>>291089994At least it's pretty much confirmed it's going to be SYSTEM or whatever's related to it. It has to be something Hamazura can recognize it has to be actively suppressed.
>>291090408They treat the attack with the same level of gravity>This had one-shotted Kamijou despite his special right arm.>This had injured Good, Old Mary.>This had tossed aside Aleister in the hospital. It makes not attempt to imply this was weaker. If anything it is implying that is the same strength and that Alice is monster for being able to easily stop and attack that fucked up all those people. There is no point in acting like what she did was a big deal if it suppose to be a weaker version of the spell.>Kingsford got the same wound he did, and was said to have gotten weaker from it.Kingsford pretended to lose. She literally dragged herself back together despite getting torn in half. Again CRC was trying his playful personality is part of his gimmick and he didn't lose it until Alice broke his cosplay. Hell even in fake Hell him not fucking around is treated as a nerf.
>>291090676Sure she was planning to lose, but the text still said that doing this weakened her. Also, way to take the context out.Mary managed to deflect the attack by removing a portion of his magic, but still got pretty injured from it. Combined with him basically no diffing Tribikos and took no damage from it.The attack on Touma was described as point blank. The dragon itself can tank these without issue, and while Touma got stronger unleashing his power, he’s not as strong as the dragon itself.Aleister was practically put onto the brink of death “Aleister lacked the strength to fight back even when someone else was being ridiculed.” Along with “He was badly injured. It was incredible he was still alive. If he had feigned death, he might have had a greater chance at survival.”
>Everyone knows about Kamijou Touma’s misfortune, but why does he have so much misfortune? When looking more closely into that, something spanning the entire world may came into view.Even the afterword is doing a chekhov.>Hamazura can’t partially regenerate himself the way Tsuchimikado can. Acting cool and using magic as a secret trick is great and all, but he will have to face the cost of his actions, so you can look forward to that.Motoharu mentioned after so long, finally.
>>291091354Anon seem to be misunderstanding. Those quotes are from the text. The diamond shot at Alice was compared to ones shot before and implied to be the same strength. My point and the point of the text is that despite his injuries the attack was the same. Why the fuck would CRC be surprised at her blocking it and saying>“I…don’t believe it,” muttered Rosencreutz. If it was weak ass version of the Diamond attack.
Is Hamazura gonna return to AC and try to turn the skill outs into magicians?
>>291093145>Is Hamazura going to teach Skill Outs how to kill themselves?No. Not that they would really get it even if taught.
>>291093145>an absolute beginner trying to teach dangerous high level magic that he had ingrained in him by a demon to stupid bums that also suffer magic recoil This would go so poorly that I want to see it happen.
>>291093145Considering the magic knowledge is just suddenly in his head and he also is inexplicably not getting hit with recoil shi; it is probably not something he can teach.
>>291093593>He completely ignored the rusty flavor spreading from deep in his throat.>Hamazura can’t partially regenerate himself the way Tsuchimikado can. Acting cool and using magic as a secret trick is great and all, but he will have to face the cost of his actions, so you can look forward to that.He's getting recoil. He's just using Shiageluck to survive.
Am I crazy or were judges in the right despite their methods>get a forced false confession from her>she actually did have Coronzon essence hidden in her body and was going to attempt a resurrectionHell Narthex comes off as having Stockholm syndrome. She admitted Coronzon only saw her as a tool and she never seen her help anyone the way Hamazura claimed she had done him.
>>291093659You know what anon I skipped the afterward and went straight to the ending.
>>291093768I like the judges because they make things messy. They are fucked up but it makes sense why the queen used them. They would have spared Hamazura and Narthex definitely was a problem that had to be dealt with quickly.
>GermanDex thinks Coronzon is pure evil and wants to stop her resurrection>Aleister stops her because somehow someway her actions might ruin Touma's day
>Ordinarily, gathering up ultra-high density Telesma and summoning a great demon required a truly extraordinary magic ceremony. A group of tens of thousands would spend decades before finally earning the right to make the attempt. And even then they had no guarantee of success. And yet.>This one girl had set foot in that great world here and now.>Number had no meaning.>She only needed a tiny fragment of knowledge.Now that I think about it, wouldn’t reflex be able to use Ars Magna? After all, Aureolus managed to use it by having the cram students do something similar to a Gregorian chant. Likely not happening, but its a nice thought to have.
>>291095014Ars wasn't a summoning. Reflex would have been able to summon gabe without all the hoops Fiamma had to jump through, maybe even Aiwass. but Ars mangna wasn't about calling down telesma
I kinda liked the flow of this volume>Touma SoL finally, ends with a question about the series itself >Accel sets up SYSTEM>Hamazura side is just dark as fuck This could’ve been a SS volume if we were doing then still, but damn
>>291095243Yeah I know. Realized it while reading the text again. Just really want to see alchemy return in a bigger role.
I see it’s another case of nip fans antagonizing others too muchThe judges are not as evil as I thoughtNips described them as if they were the worst thing
>>291096871Considering how they thought Touma was being exceptional cruel last volume when he was mainly sticking to his guns, the loudest ones at least were more swayed by emotion. These judges are some crazy self righteous pricks, but if I heard someone is trying to kamikaze summon a world destroying demon, I would be supporting the judges with all my might. I don't give a shit why.
Foursome with Index, Narthex and Reflex
>>291097262I don't agree with them but this is a series were Touma typically chooses his feelings over logic. He always feels bad about those he could have saved like HP and CRC. So him going nah Coronzon needed to die is surprising be isn't wrong. I doubt Coronzon would even think he is wrong her big gripe was that she can't act outside her nature.
>>291098508I get it but we found that his line is exceptionally powerful (can't be jailed), literally inhumanly determined (can't be rehabilitated or controlled), and end goal is to kill everyone (can't be compromised with). It's the most human he's ever been when he said ok fuck it I tried.
I was told that Touma passes a test. That didn’t happen. I got clickbaited.
>>291099508Coronzon also never had a plan for after her death.
>>291097728Based
>Her dark wine-red nun’s habit would have drawn the eye regardless, but it was also quite revealing in places. The skirt had bold slits in the sides, much like a China dress.>The pale-skinned girl’s long blonde hair blew in the night breeze.>She looked to be around ten, but apparent age probably wasn’t a reliable indicator here. Not when she had been thoroughly modified by a great demon.Really wish we got an illustration of her. Maybe next volume.
>>291098508Touma himself was very likely acting on his own nature in regards to her, given the whole purifying god and slaying demons thing, and I suspect Kamachi did this intentionally to show a similarity between them. This would also allow Hamazura to not be completely wrong in the sense that Touma acted more selfishly than usual, same with how he did with Othinus but in the opposite direction.
>Not even the Eleven Court Officers lurking in the depths of the Anglican Church could reveal the logic of what happened! What was that? Gathering a small amount of magic power in his grasp couldn’t have activated in some kind of fluke. Magic was a strict field of study. It operated on an intricate logic ruled by formulae, laws, and definitions! So an uneducated boy couldn’t just start using it!! And yet he had snatched a specialized spell from somewhere without a grimoire or sorcerer to guide him? And the Tower of London had world-class specialization for imprisoning magicians, so how had this unauthorized spell activated without any attenuation? They were confident that not even Great Demon Coronzon’s spells could have done that!!!Hamazura being able to solo the level 5s is coming true.
Shiage Hamazura, Hellblazer
>>291099863Along with Hamazura killing one of the judges, he only greatly injured one.
>>291101124Next volume
>Sasha Kreutzev was explicitly designed to be like a Russian version of Index.>Unusual body construction that attracted an archangel to possess her - possibly altered.>Vasilisa keeps her under extremely tight control.>Ridiculous revealing outfit not unlike Narthex or Reflex.>Mind comparably weird to Index's perfect memory or Narthex's whatever the fuck she has going on.>Same age as Narthex.So was Sasha actually the Russian Dex sister all along? What would her real name be, then? Rolex?
>>291108188That would be a rather good twist to get the Russian church more involved in the series.
So is Aleister hunting down the index sisters for some reason? There’s no other explanation considering Reflex was trying to get rid of Coronzon
>>291109218Yeah they're quite under-explored. We only know of like three people in it lol. Iirc it's been said somewhere that Kamachi & Co. were considering an Annihilatus spinoff at some point, but Putin invaded Ukraine precisely to stop us from having our long-awaited magic side spinoff.Since that ain't happening, Kamachi will have to bring us more Russians in the main series.
Hamazura’s arc in GT is so good, it’s mirroring how as a skillout he revolted against the corruption in AC and parameter list, but now SYSTEM in the world as a whole. Iirc back in like NT1 and 2, the idea of him and Accelerator trying to acclimate back into society after WW3 was brought up and Kamachi made you think it was Accel that was having the harder time doing that, but by the end of NT you could see that Hamazura was still struggling to do this, then GT was just all hell breaking loose for him
Where can the story go from where we are right now? Its been such a roller coaster, either we will enter a chill season for a while, or just keep going to hell and back (again)
>>291111086It will be a hellhole for Hamazura but chill for everyone else in AC
>>291111086We are getting into late GT soon, NT17’s ending threw us into the Coronzon arc and OT17 was the start of Brexit which was the last time Touma was in AC in OT, there are no brakes now. In the end I guess GT is structured a bit more similar to OT where there’s not really a de-escalation in the middle. Coronzon returning was like 0930
>>291111346He deserves it. Bitch needs to go through his own D E S P A I R arc to really understand.
>>291111086Hamazura has to deal with the judges, even though I suspect only Frank, the redhead, and the asian will matter, and Aleister will probably play a cat and mouse game with Reflex. She has nearly 0 chance of beating him head on. And then Aleister's fear will come true and Reflex will do something that drags the rest of the world into their problem is my guess.
>>291109592I want to kiss her
>>291112906You wouldn’t kiss a vegetable
The “Coronzon/Choronzon” shit is so confusing. The contents page and Hamazura’s magic name say Choronzon while everything else has Coronzon. But Kamachi says that Hamazura used her name.Is there any difference at all between the two spellings in Japanese?
>>291113932One is the older spelling and one is the Aleister spelling. Everything after she and Aleister share a body should probably be Choronzon, but it's likely some symbolic thing when Choronzon gets used.
>>291113932Basically, Coronzon is an older spelling IRL and it was mentioned in NT that Lola's true name is 8 letters specifically.In GT Kamachi had begun to use Choronzon with provided English spelling and the mention that the name is 9 letters long in text. Japanese spelling is the same. It's also more common spelling that was used by Crowley IRL (Coronzon and Coronzom predate it).Now, was it a mistake in NT or is it a plot point? No one really knows yet and it really only sticks like a sore thumb because we read it in English.
>>291113254It's a very cute vegetable
>>291110159It’s more that Aleister is seeing what is starting to occur and wants to prevent it from getting larger.>“I can’t imagine why you would care. It’s not like you knew Narthex.”>“Maybe not, but if this disaster is left unchecked, it will spread from this one point in England to engulf the entire world. And then he will be dragged into it.”
>>291064473>RPslopping Toaru with gemini cause it's the best model for canon>battle royal arc>the bitch is literally insufferable on all existing levels Did she soften up at least a little after OT?t. anime secondary
>>291116556Kind of? It's more like in OT she was way too much on the edge due to various circumstances that aren't a thing in NT.
Was watching a random Raildex related YouTube video and got jumpscared by Pizza Hut being in the anime. I always forget that was a thing that happened.
>>291116556She’s chill currently. No mental breakdowns during either NT or GT (so far).
>>291117672>Pizza HutCode Geass
>>291118855My favourite moment in early-ish NT is where she told Accelerator that he's a whiny bitch.
>>291111346Hamazura is going to go all doom slayer across magician kind while Touma is frolicking out in the fields.
>>291097728Narthex is likely going to get completely dominated by Reflex during this.
>>291116237Did he forget that he’s cursed to failure?
>>291121540Him never stopping anyway got him his daughter back. Might as well try.
>Coronzon might’ve tried to blow up the world to stop something with the index sisters happening>all the lingering questions with SYSTEMWe getting magic god Index soon?
>>291092179My guess is SYSTEM have been using Touma to try and fix a world that breaking apart. So it lead too a huge amount of misfortune so Touma will always run into what need to be fix or SYSTEM want Touma dead but IB is trying it best to keep him alive.
>>291122360Wasn’t Index’s theory early on that IB is just negating the blessings from the system of God?
>>291121540>>291121571If that curse is still stuck with him even after going to the afterlife, then it’s even more insane that whatever made Touma, the guy who negates alterations to his own fate, fated to die.
>>291122493She could be wrong where instead of having no blessings he's being actively punished.
>>291121839Hopefully in a sexy dress instead of nun
>>291124432How about a sexy nun?
>>291124141Coronzon kind of point that this is what happening to Touma.When GT 14 Coronzon was getting mad at Touma for not having her level of hate. Over the fact that like her Touma was abandon from the start
Any ideas on how Hamazura actually does it?My only answer is esper shenanigans, if Rikou can detect it, it is something related to AIM, right?
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>>291117672Yeah Pizza hut was doing a shit ton of product placement in anime in the latter 00s. Railgun unfairly getting better treatment than Index all started with that little budget boost from the Pizza Hut money (lie). >>291119200Code Geass would have been nothing without their cheesy generosity.
>>291121839They're gonna combine into a megazord.
>>291127612who will be red Index?We know Red is the only color that matters
>>291127669Index could become the red sister if Haimura's thus-far-unused GT design for her gets put to actual use. Otherwise, it'll have to be Reflex, who doesn't deserve that prestige.
>>291127228It seemed like he was using magic but using the theory behind esper powers to fill in the gaps
>>291127228No idea how he's doing it, but Coronzon's thing is dispersion and breaking bonds. So I think he throws something into the spell that causes it to violently fail. If it has to do with his AIM it might be when the spell touches his field it goes haywire. It would explain how he destroyed the wall since it's magically held together, or the judge bursting into flames when she attacked. Though that sounds super overpowered and relies on blowback to balance it out.
Hamazura will run through the Necessarius gauntlet before finally meeting his greatest foe yet, the jeans shop guy.>>291127669>Her dark wine-red nun’s habit would have drawn the eye regardless, but it was also quite revealing in places. The skirt had bold slits in the sides, much like a China dress.>The pale-skinned girl’s long blonde hair blew in the night breeze.>>291128027Could someone post the unused design?
It's schizotheories time: SYSTEM doesn't exist in the present. It is an esper from the future (maybe even a possible version of Aihana) who controls the past.
