Roar Gang ending soon. Gargantuan BTFO again
>>291039867I can't believe middle management is going out with a party! What about my orders?
>>291040182I'm afraid that the inspector has arrived...
So was that the dragon god that made him sperg out?
>>291040921I'm pretty sure yeah.
>>291041131I thought the mangaka was gonna go for le morally gray dragons but they're just hardwired to sperg out I suppose. TDD
>>291041302Pretty much. Even if you have the best intentions unless you do whatever Crimson did to disconnect himself and snek from the Dragon God you're living on borrowed time.
How I wake up every morning:
>>291041302Why on earth would you think the dragons were going to be morally grey? How low could your media literacy possibly get?
>>291041916How does this guy even have vitals?
>>291039867Garg FODDERIZEDSLAPPED ASIDEMINDBROKEN
>>291042026>media literacyReddit
AI translation from reddit: https://imgur.com/a/q7UlMdaAlso here's some extra AI sloppa by me
>>291042906Dragon god seems invisible guess its in another dimension? Also are thye going to tryressurect hakuren?
>>291042906Crimson is flat!
>>291042026>Fair amount of the people following these kinds of stories, lot of the ones who post about it online anyway, are maladjusted autistic freaks who want to see IRL genocides done, and see any moral complexity beyond "X are mindlessly, ontologically evil subhumans and must be exterminated at all costs" as a condemnation of their fantasies of exterminating, say, Puerto Ricans, and feel personally attacked.
>>291044648Im out of generations though... Have to wait until tomorrow.
>>291042906ENTER
>>291042906holy sex
>There's actually hope for Tina surviving and sufferingFuck yeah
>>291047137Anon...You do know every dragon part of the bloodline disappears when their king dies right?
Raws?
>>291048303Yeah, I remember very well.
>>291048541Karla clones and the original king(crimson) still lives. Maybe some technicality hullabaloo spared him
The only way I can see Tina living is if Crimson somehow makes her his minion before she dies but the problem is that Crimson isn't there and also that the author is a sadist.
>>291048541He is special
I Just Realized the Banko tells Rex to call his name because was probably using her power to stop him going crazy when she was alive
>>291039867Dump? Link to raws?
>>291048335>>291049751Only the ai translated ones anon linked here.>>291042906
>>291049751Reddit someone posted the raws
>>291042906>Ragna finally learn of the human city.>He is also on the dragon god's shit list.
>>291042906Post it in imgchest so i can read in cubari you fucking FAGGOT!
GarCuckTina getting One-shotted is so satisfying. But why didn't Ragna just finish that fucking Niggress dragon already. It's gonna bite him back in the ass later on. Tina's gonna pull some bullshit on Ragna just when he's about to kill Bragram
Whats up with Glasses Saint being afraid of sun saint? Also, what could happen to help Roars? They will revive Jobber Saint, Steroid Saint came back with Slime, Ragnar is already facing Bagram... The situation is sus
>>291048303>>291048541To be fair, Kobayashi hasn't confirmed nor denied that statement yet. We still don't fully know what happens to their followers after a king dies. Especially when this guy also managed to survive for a while before he was killed off. Maybe they have a certain amount of time before they're either slowly die or go insane. Or maybe have the chance to transfer to another bloodline before any of it happening.
>>291048541Maybe they will turn back to human?
>>291052752>Especially when this guy also managed to survive for a while before he was killed offLeo's interlude was on March 12th, Ultimatia died on March 15th
>>291053157That's gotta be the case in only very exceptional circumstances.
>>291052752I imagine it works sorta like hollowing. Without their king acting as a spiritual north star, they lose their reason to exist and just go slowly catatonic crazy in cave somewhere. Maybe even lose some of their powers too. A death of the soul I suppose.
>>291039867Kino
>>291039867Chapter when?
At lastIm getting bored of this arc
>>291057886It's probably better reading it all at once.
>>291045367holy shit my favorite sun cult jobber is still alive
>>291057727never
>>291041302It has been hinted from the start that long term co-existence is impossible, but I didnt expect that it would so drastic, given what we saw, someone, probably the dragon god, made roars king lose it on the spot
>>291058989After Wings, and how conservative the author was being with the rainbow saintess, I was expecting her to do more, and yet we saw her team getting nomed by roar kings, no wonders the cult collapsed on the bad future.
>>291048541Personal theory, the dead of a king activates a death switch that kills the bloodline, or at least depowers them significantly BUT is a trigger no a constant effect, so Nebulim has already been killed before but he had those time barrier to revert time on him and revive him, so I assume when Wing king died, he was death at the time death or in the middle of being revived, so while the preemptive barrier ended reviving him, he ended losing some of his powers afterwards, despair at the aftermath and then went looking to get stronger to have revenge on Ragna.
>>291060041:(
I thought the anime was pretty hype and there was some cool stuff in the manga too, then I heard it got worse or something. Hopefully it's still kino, I'm letting the chapters built up
>>291060576The anime suffered of this.
>>291045367Is a new clone? or the carlas somehow saved the super soldiers from the depths of the ocean?
>>291041302I assume that no matter how much of a good person you are, once you are a dragon, you are the mercy of the dragon god and whatever the god is, it can just overrrite your will, morals and desires so you do its bidding.I assume that Crimson hated that soo much that is why it did whatever it did to stop being a king.
>>291043091Whether or not it can be interacted with outside of the physical is unclear. The Dragon God is essentially an outer god. It has infected millions of humans to transform them into extensions of itself, its physical body on earth. Its bloodlines are literally its claws, its roar, its wings, etc. They are it and it is them. Their claws are its claws, their brains are its brains. Its thoughts are directly input into the minds of what followers it decides to pay attention to, like sending a signal to flex a muscle. Total Dragon Death may well be the only valid answer, unless like >>291041393 says there's some method to disconnect dragons en masse.
>>291060732Slime was also teleported to the ocean, so it’s the same one who managed to escape and swim back, with Slime hitching a ride.
>>291060774>it can just overrrite your will, morals and desires so you do its bidding.Isn't that pretty much what Ultimatia and Olto Zora tell future Ragna when Ultimatia tries to turn him?
>>291062029I think what they were talking about there was specifically about standard dragon biology and not the dragon god doing a little extra like what happened to Bagram.
>>291039867I've only been glancing at this shit since a few years ago since they just Pikachu-esque reset the fag MC hard as fuck and that pissed me off. And unfortunately, it seems like that stuck, and now it seems like we're about to shift to>Oh abloobloobloo dwagons awen't akchuwally THAT bad guise, I don't wanna kill dwagons anymoooore!!!! *sobs*which is going to be a mega dumpster fire if so.I don't give a fuck if dragons were actually heckin' good awesomesauce wholesome chungus before they went insane, I don't.And the MC killed some guy who the 2nd strongest character in-universe said is capable of killing her, then he gets dabbed on by shitters for 40+ chapters. There's no consistency in the power scaling and it's too late now to try and pull the>ohhh the dragons are a tragic existence, they don't WANT to be torturing, murderous psychopaths, it just heckin' happens when their leaders go crazy/are crazy!!!11!at this point. They've been committing atrocities the entire story so I don't care about this half-baked redemption asspull bullshit.To be fair, maybe the author shouldn't have hyped up Woltekamui so much to the point of repeatedly saying he's able to kill Gilzea at as early into the series as he did, because now it just makes Ragna look like a bitch when he keeps jobbing to people with no feats.
>>291062393Ragna broke the sword the silver princess made for him. That's why he became mid again.
>>291062502So true, I think we need another chapter of the author's fetish of having the slime shit all over him to complete the humiliation ritual.
>>291062393It's because the other dragons are like gimmick bosses. You need to "pull a lever" or something similar in order to beat them. Since it's monthly though, I'd appreciate a little bit of plot progression.
>>291063942Which is dumb because that does affect the entire landscape of scaling. Even if someone is easily defeated after you destroy all their horcrux-esque tier bullshit, if they're functionally unbeatable unless you do so, then your earlier writing setting up who is strongest falls pretty flat in retrospect.Guess that's a bit much to ask of shounen though, there isn't really a single one that doesn't fuck over previously established rules and hierarchies in some capacity.
>>291062393If anything this arc is probably going to be more like Kimetsu no Yaiba where Ragna will acknowledge that the Roars had a raw deal, but is still going to kill what's left of them because they're dragons.
>>291062393>kamui is able to kill gilzeaMore like he MIGHT be able to get pass her auto counter, and Ragna still needs the sword to get on that level
>>291062393I suppose the best way to go about this would be stop seeing all dragons as inheretly evil, BUT also not acting like they are all victims. Ultimatia is a good example, she became a king on her moment of despair but despite her front as kind and merciful person, she still engage in human genocide and was devout to the dragon god, and Crimson rightfully called her a hypocrite just trying to play like she was actually a good person, now roars kings does seem genuinely good, specially since he has beef with the worst part of the sun cult, and what happens right now could easily be a show on how much of a losing battle is to fight the dragon god hate for humanity if you become a dragon, the best morality faggotry I can see from this, is that Crimson decides to "help" roars and any other dragon that cherish their humanity enough to rebel, to break away the same way he did as a way to recruit powerful allies (pawns) but also killing all others that have throw away their humanity, like moons and eye bloodline, with the machine dragon seemly the one potential traitor.
>>291065407That's the absolute "best" case scenario now that this can of worms was opened.>>291065471She literally said both of them were capable of killing her now, while also stating the fact that Ragna surpassed him.>>291065496It's just shit now and just rings very hollow, even if they are fucked over from a raw deal. After showing the rest of the dragons being sadistic maniacs, mass-torturing and genociding humans it holds no weight to go the>oh they got fucked over and are forcibly being made to act that wayroute.Like this is the entire reason why the "insanity" shit wasn't really a thing in the past. You're supposed to judge things based on their outcomes, so even if your intention isn't to be a slaughtering crazy, the fact remains that your very existence is harmful to those around you and you need to be put down with prejudice.I'm sure people are tired of hearing about Frieren, but that's a point it brought up that reaaaally pissed off the libshitters trying to draw racism parallels from that series with its Demons. Frieren acknowledges that it might be possible for Demons to gain a conscience... eventually. But she then immediately asks/states "how long will that take, and at the expense of how many human lives?"Same deal here. Is it going to take basically the complete annihilation of humans for heckin' wholesome chungus misunderstood dragons to be "fixed"? No one wants that, they're better off dead. Future Ragna didn't even reach the dragon god either, so there's no guarantee that killing it would solve anything in that regard. I sincerely hope the series is still going the TDD route since logically and thematically it makes the most sense, but I fear normalfags were fed too much of the "n-not all dragons are bad guise" slop now, so they'll be hella upset if despite everything Ragna still decides to kill all dragons.
>>291064104Worst part of this manga was the faux strategy bullshit with the wing dragons abd the silver corps. Not a single soul gave a fuck.
>>291066480>After showing the rest of the dragons being sadistic maniacs, mass-torturing and genociding humans it holds no weight to go the>oh they got fucked over and are forcibly being made to act that waynta but this was never new information or a new idea anon. We already knew that there were dragons that were pro human before being turned and went full maniac mode afterwards with Ortho, Arnold, and even what would have happened to Ragna. The difference is that the King of Roars acted as a safeguard for his subordinates with his ability while Artemesia had no ability so Ortho was left more or less insane and Arnold just coped by being incredibly rigid in his mindset. The rest of Wings didn't care about humans for one reason or another so there was no discrepancy. The story is not making a case that humans should try and help or rehabilitate dragons. The story is reinforcing that the second you allow yourself to feel empathy for dragons you have lost because they are already gone. Not even Crimson changes this because she will kill as many humans as possible to accomplish her own goal however righteous she ultimately is.
>>291066480Rereading chapter 54, she just said that Ragna's Twin Hunting Flash reached the realm of being able to kill her.
>>291062393It obviously isn't going to head in that direction because both Li Ruoxi and Crimson told Ragna that putting down Bagram is the only option to save Aysel. Why get so worked up over something that hasn't happened?
>>291067371The 99999999999999999999 other pieces of media that did the same shit?
>>291066996>however righteous she ultimately isThe thing with Crimson is that he wants to kill the dragons and dragon god for his own egoistical reasons, humanity is simple the useful ally he can work with, and even then he doesnt consider himself human anymore and think is above humanity, I wouldnt be surprised if everything goes well, Crimson would be the next big bad humanity would have to deal with after the dragons are eradicated.
>>291062393>Total Dragon Death!!They say.
>>291060684Sad
>>291039867I love the way one of his heads looks at Ragna, like, "Who does this guy think he is?"
>>291069851I can't believe Saint Jelly reads Versus
>>291070805Yeah, i will love to see a collab of Ragna Crimson and Versus.Just image Dragons fighting all the 13 factions.
>>291047137So she will be like the Dragon Saint, huh?
When will we get a normal thread and translation?
>>291071166Scanlators said they had trouble with DRM for raws again, so who knows
>>291045367SEA SALT!! I NEED YOU SEA SALT
>>291057886Still
>>291057886I'm pretty sure we are only at half of the arc
>>291073863Nah I can't see this final fight lasting mor than a volume then maybe 1 more for aftermath
>>291062393>Oh abloobloobloo dwagons awen't akchuwally THAT bad guise, I don't wanna kill dwagons anymoooore!!!! *sobs*>which is going to be a mega dumpster fire if so.Nigga we just got chapters confirming they still fucking want to eat people and its only the remaining sanity of the roar king which kept the bloodline in check (and now thats gone even)Total dragon death is inevitable
>>291074517Yeah we're beginning the transition to what seems to be the "great crusade" arc with Japan.But maybe we're going to the sea with the sealed dragon who knows.
>>291041302>I thought the mangaka was gonna go for le morally gray dragons but they're just hardwired to sperg out I suppose. TDDThe Dragons are just a modified version of Vampirisim. Hence the fear of silver and sunlight. The dragons are too chaotic evil to ever be morally grey.I stopped watching once too many people kept dying. The author is too comfortable getting rid of characters,
>>291076158>The dragons are too chaotic evil to ever be morally grey. My wife isn't evil. She is the strongest there is and bows to no one, not even to God.
>>291076634Killing 2000 people for no reason is pretty evil
>>291077283That wasn't her, that was entirely the fault of their cardiovascular systems
>>291077283Is really her fault? She simple is soo dangerous people feel it and die of fear, is not like she proactively kill them or she is going around just being a death radius for shit and giggles, she kept herself away from other most of the time it seems, only moving when something catch her interest.
>>291077283Shouldn't have failed the SAN check
>>291062393same but for humanity,total human death.
>>291069851Kek
>>291078660>Is really her fault?Yes? She's fully aware of her terror aura and could have approached Leo at any point after getting interested. She simply does not care about humans unless they are strong.
>>291060041Noo...
>>291077283skill issue>>291085907the weak should fear the strong
>>291069851Mad God solos mature dragons.
>>291077283It wasn't for no reason, she picked up 2 disciples who will help save the world even if they're a bit disconnected from their body/head right now.
>>291088815Implying that the future strongest tier 2 character would ever lose his head.
>>291069851What force in Versus can counter a dragon that can control time in a specific large area?
he deserved more time on screen instead of being one-shot.
>>291052752He had a cool design.
>>291092212She never got to fuck Kamui.
bagram would be a pitmommy in another life
>>291093830Kek
>>291093823And we know why.
>>291042906kek
>>291095762Despite that, I love how this page could be from some ntr doujin, with nebulim getting cucked because he was too weak to protect ultimatia.
>>291092212or ginbak.
>>291068769You might be speedreading a bit, Crimson puts himself as a target of the dragon purge and with the latest reveals we can't be so sure of his motivations anymore, he could possibly be in a position similar to the sun saint where being amoral nets humanity the best shot at surviving and he did look upset in the moon whining about how Ragna was moralfagging him couldn't possibly get what he has already triee and went through
>>291060390My theory is that Dragon God simply named Nebulim the new King of Wings immediately after Artemisia died. Now, he went to train because he knows his power is crap compared to other kings with literal cheat codes.
>>291098101>Nebulim new kingThat would be a interesting twist.
>>291080786This, but unironically
>>291060684same
>>291060684Sucks since the casting was so stellar
>>291097778Thanks anon. I needed a laugh right now and forgot about this page. Kobayashi 100% knew what they were doing here.
>>291100682Shame!
>>291097778I still remember the thread where this was posted. It was so fucking funny. >Thu 25 Jul 2019That was seven years ago no...........
>>291102660wow
>>291042071Pure hatred towards dragons is the only thing that keeps him going.
>>291090701Ragna did and he is the strongest.
>>291104636>Man too angry to die
>>291069851
>>291105978Aaiieee
>>291062393>Oh abloobloobloo dwagons awen't akchuwally THAT bad guise, I don't wanna kill dwagons anymoooore!!!! *sobs*That's literally one bloodline and it turns out they were brainwashed to not eat the humans. Otherwise they are either neutral, sadistic or plain predatory.I guess its hard to live with a single braincell.
>>291069851>>291097886The best part about this is that they literally call the dragons "Natural enemies" in the beginning of the manga
>>291092212Ginbak is strong enough to nullify magic on his own—with just a breath—especially when his Burst is active.If Ultimatia were to face him, he would instantly destroy all those time-freezing barriers—or whatever they're called.We never got to see if she actually has the power to revive fallen dragons using her ability while in dragon form, since she gets shot right at that moment.
>>291069851The Wind Prison Dragon VS Giants is an interesting match.Based on what is known and shown about this dragon, it travels within a powerful tornado that it controls at will; its gusts are powerful enough to slice like blades, and in its dragon form, it can unleash total devastation by creating multiple such tornadoes simultaneously.If it were to face the Giants, it would naturally underestimate them, but this would not be a one-shot victory for the Giants.The weaker/smaller Giants would die quickly upon attempting to charge into the tornado, sliced in parts.The larger ones might withstand the cutting winds—especially if they activate their Burst—but they would not be able to reach the dragon. Consequently, Berser and Ginbak would have them hurl stones into the tornado to strike the beast.This would provoke the beast into shifting to its dragon form, which would almost certainly kill all the Giants—except for Ginbak and his Thousand Sons. They would likely use the terrain to disrupt the tornadoes' axes, or Ginbak would allow himself to be sucked into the main tornado to confront the dragon face-to-face.
>>291107624And I’m not lying about his dragon form, but considering how easily this dragon can be provoked, it’s hilarious to make him to face the Giants—who are basically cavemen; there’s a certain irony in a dragon so proud stooping to the level of giant smurf cavemen.
I like Versus but this faggot redditor turning every Ragna discussion thread into Versus fanfic is getting tiresome
>>291108992Fact, doing it occassionally is fine but he just keeps at it every thread.>hey guys, nice grimDARK manga you got there, it's just like muh favorite shota series Ubel Blatt>did you know the author started Ubel Blatt 2>you think Gilzea could SURVIVE WINGS OF DARKNESS
>>291062393I skimmed through some Neverland spoilers and all I am sure of is that the demon noble who hates human farms because they turn humans from dangerous game into slaughterstock is relatable and can be coexisted with.
>>291108992Powerscaling discussions devour threads whole almost as quickly as shipping discussions do. I get that Ragna Crimson is a fighting manga, but characters should at least be kept within their own context instead of being tossed around like action figures.
>>291090701If Skyrim-ojiisan is an example of what the strongest tier 2 character looks like than Saix will have to perform some ridiculous feats to earn that position:>survives and keeps Ragna and armor-equipped Silver Corps guys busy with only the fog from fog dragon>prevents Ragna from falling onto Tina with the force of 10 million giga nigga tons>survives the Ageless Swordsman>gg ezs the Sun Saint>his ultimate sacrifice technique actually puts Ageless Swordsman down>>291066658I did, Ultimatia's familiar being more useful than Traumatia and Nebulim's small fat fuck familiars were fun.
>>291108992This faggot is ruining both Ragna and Versus threads. You can tell it's the same guy because he uses ChatGPT to write his posts.
>>291109851>You can tell it's the same guy because he uses ChatGPT to write his posts.That explains a lot. The posts are just uncanny to read.
Versus? Huh. Let's check it ou->Story by One No thank you.
>>291111518But it's good.
