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Volume 66
The New three
Chapter 635: A New Wind
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504

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>>291078888
>suigetsu being rude to an animal
who is this doppelganger
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B&W
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>>291079268
>just got reunited after almost 20 years
>all this hardcore penetrations
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>>291078979
>>291079004
>>291079029
total character assassination for all three of them.
So how come Suigetsu and Karin never started dating
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>>291079240
I don't even remember if they actually do anything at all after this
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>>291079268
this sudden cutaway is borderline comical lmao
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Done!
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>>291079069
>>291079123
Pardoned for everything btw
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>>291078938
He could have perhaps convinced her more easily if he mentioned Madara is a mutual enemy trying to destroy the world (that he too exists in) instead of just 'trust me bro'
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>>291079044
>You who betrayed the village and turned traitor. Why this now?
>also didn't you die? Jiraiya and I were all melancholy when we heard what happened
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>>291079004
I'm not the kind of person to whine about this kind of stuff, but goddamn Karin is a really good example of how shit and poorly written the female characters in this manga are. She's so fucking annoying and unfunny, and she only exists to be a plot device.
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>>291080202
Cheers
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>>291079397
damn, she's REALLY old.
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>>291079143
>Actually Sai we're in the middle of battle at the moment so no, you may not ask me something.
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Oro is a good boy, he "dindu nuffin".
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>>291079240
>>291080101
you'd think tsunade would have a better looking ass
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>>291079268
Kakashi literally cannot stop piercing people close to him. I'm surprised he never gave Gai a taste of his love infused Raikiri.
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>>291080202
Thanks, comfy OP!
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>>291078919
>>291078938
>>291078966
I don't get this, Kishi can show Tsunade's real forehead and jaw all the way to the nose but is too afraid to show her eyes?
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>>291080101
*slap*
>>291080676
give granny a break.
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>>291079004
What was the point of showing your tongue here, Oro?
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>>291079161
>goes right back to being a dickish edge-lord after barely five minutes
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>>291080202
thanks op.
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>>291079161
>>291079178
Sasuke was unsure he could Genjutsu the Biju for his new world order?
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>>291079240
CULO
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>>291079178
>I'm going to blah blah blah and then blah blah
>Oh shit we actually didn't do a damn thing
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>>291079197
>>291079215
Goddamn I hate Sakura so much. She's such a dogshit poorly written character.
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>>291079268
How did Kekashi survive this?
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>>291079268
>>291079290
>>291080158
>>291080202
Arigatou, OP!
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>>291078938
Longnade is long
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>>291079069
And this is how Orochimaru got away with everything I guess?
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>>291079510
Last thread complained about Jugo's robe but Karin literally entered the battlefield barefeet in prisonwear that looks like a pyjama. No woman even in their 90's would ever care this little about what she wears in public. Kishimoto really doesn't care at this point.
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Hiashi won.
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>>291079004
I like Sasuke's team about as much as I like Ino-Shika-Cho
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>>291079197
>>291079215
Goddamn I love Sakura so much. Shame Kishifaggetp can't women. Wish I could have sex with her.
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>>291082919
Lee...you should be fighting in the war.
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>>291082919
Just say you like her design and want to fuck her, stop pretending that she's a good or well written character in any way.
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>>291082779
During the final battle with Naruto he will pretend that he doesn't have these friends who stick with him no matter what. It's all so contrived.
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>>291083524
anko's husband.
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comfy
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>>291078938
>POTENTIAL Slug
Dont invoke Katsuyu's rage! She is totally top tier with "muh acid"!
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>>291079004
Here's that
>children's manga
I was telling you about

>now casting 13 year olds!
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>>291078938
Would Katsuyu's acid count as senjutsu?
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Why the threads so dead?
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>>291079069
It's a bit of a stretch to imagine Oro having a change of heart sooner would have turned Jiraiya into the same kind of sociopathic mad scientist murderous bastard.
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>>291078888
need cuted feeted pajama GF
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>>291084798
Best I can do is offer you an ugly bare footed GF. Her name is Karin. Also she smells because they didn't let her bathe while she was in jail.
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There's nothing I find more pathetic than female simps. Karin and Sakura are just that. Especially Karin, the show became 10 times worse whenever she was on screen. If a woman simoes for me like that I would lose respect for her in an instant.
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>>291084487
Manga's shit.
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>>291080472
War arc is so chocked full of stuff that I don't care for that I actually find Karins shit endearing
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>>291085191
Didn't stop it 2 days ago
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>>291079215
Sais last words before he matters never again.
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>>291079215
I am such a happy Kekura!
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>>291085712
I don't even like sakura and still feel nothing but shame watching one of her "moments".
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>>291079029
hag toes
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>>291079240
Why waste any time or energy on bringing these five back when Madara no diffed them 1v5?
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>>291079044
Tummy
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>>291086058
Only Neji has the privilege to die.
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>>291086058
So Sasuke can be edgy and threaten killing them off
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>>291079268
How did Kakashi survive this?
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>>291086058
So that the tentails can wrap Mei's and Tusnade's fat tits in tsukoyomi tree vines.
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>>291086221
He has powers
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>>291079044
I never understood why Orochimaru didn't try to steal Tsunade's body honestly. He wanted to be the second coming of the six paths and his first choice was someone descending from the Kaguya clan, but he couldn't have his first choice Kimimaru. Logically he should have chose the person who's a hybrid of the Senju and Uzamaki clan if he wanted to be close to the Kaguya clan. The person who already has reverse aging, regen, super chakra control, and hales from TWO cousin clans known for massive chakra, seals abilities, and sage powers. Literally the perfect candidate for the the cursed seals that provide nature energy for sage mode. Cursed Seal Tsunade would have essentially been Hashirama. That's not even counting Tsunade has super healing and a strong body, the things Orochimaru lacked for snake sage mode due to bodies deteoriating due to the body swap, a problem he wouldn't have had with Tsunade's body.

Overall Orochimaru was a retard for going after Sasuke instead of her. He easily could have had her at any point given Kabuto was enough to fuck up her senses to the point Naruto had to save her, if he would have jumped her while she was drunk and he still had hands.
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>>291079178
For a culture centered around chakra these fuckers really do not understand the nature of cycles
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THEY CALL HIM 007
>zero feats against anybody important
>zero relationship with his son
>seven hundred chapters glazing him for no reason
HE IS....POTENTIAL DAD
>Naruto...I know I am the most glazed ninja ever, and now I have unlimited chakra and cannot be killed, so I should easily end the war in a minute, but alas...! Some elite unknown before this moment power took my arms away! I am forced to just sit here and watch!
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>>291086674
Forgot my image
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>>291086570
Why do you assume he even knew about the Kaguya and Hagoromo descendants shit.
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>>291079215
>Shikamaru realizes something
>Doesn't elaborate
And that's the end of this sideplot.

Also, this is the last time in the entire manga when Shikamaru realizes something.
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>>291086674
>>291086717
cringe
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>>291079864
lol cuсkruto's face lmao
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do you think there's a particular reason why this fight is so highly regarded? and do you think it will eventually lose popularity as people who grew up with naruto get older? or will it stay in the public eye forever? i assume younger/newer anime fans won't necessarily go watch naruto and will just watch the newer/current releases

i can appreciate the story the fight tells and how impressive lee was even if he did lose.
he's like a representation of humanity's strength to keep going no matter what, but also a representation of our weakness, reminding us we all have limits we can never surpass

no matter how useless it seems to keep fighting, lee keeps going. we go into the fight being told it's impossible for lee to beat gaara, but lee keeps pulling out more strength giving hope that maybe it is possible to overcome this impossible obstacle.
lee can't hit gaara no matter how hard he tries but he keeps going.
lee (at this time) loses everything in this fight but gets back up and keeps trying anyway.
at the end, we leave the fight with the same knowledge we had going in. that lee can't beat gaara. but he still had to give it his all and try anyway, and it was impressive he pushed gaara at all. but there is no overcoming the limits of one's own humanity. but it is also incredibly human to keep trying anyway.
it's fitting to use the all hard work guy who's like a self made dragon against the all "talent" guy who's like a natural born tiger, and i like that's it's seemingly a representation of an unstoppable force against an unmoveable object. gaara is like an object/wall with how he doesn't move. lee does push this wall but he can never remove it.
the animation does a good job conveying the movements too with good fluidity. but probably, the biggest reason why it's a popular fight is the weight removal scene and the reaction shots afterwards. the expressions are pretty good

i think it does deserve its popularity even if it's a little misunderstood at times
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>>291087892
I used to mock people who thought about hardwork vs talent was the series main theme, but looking at how Kishi did the actual themes of the story, maybe that should've been the theme.
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where's gaaras eyebrows
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>>291088375
lee stole them
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>>291084487
You KNOW why
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>>291081728
Better than Hinata in every way.
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>>291089279
No, I DON'T. Please, EXPLAIN
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>>291089387
Hinata is submissive and breedable.
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>>291089279
Sakura is submissive and breedable.
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Oldfags, how impactful was Naruto ending here on a/? I assume at least a week of non-ending Naruto threads
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>>291090233
Only for a man who will attempt to murder her or ignore her for years on end. She would be disgusted by your cloying desperation to please her.
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>>291079240
sit down, Kibavictims
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>>291079240
need ass crack
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>>291090110
Only for a man who will attempt to ignore her for years on end. She would be disgusted by your cloying desperation to please her.
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>>291086926
it doesn't need to elaborate. the chapter shows you, retard.
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>>291089387
Not really, at least Hinata's attraction for her love interest is more believable. Her personality also isn't as insufferable as Sakura's.
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>>291091492
>personality
what personality?
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>>291056301
>>291079268
What's with all these terrible transitions all of a sudden?
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>>291091511
She thinks of others, is generous, polite, not a girlboss.
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>>291092077
>She thinks of others, is generous, polite, not a girlboss.
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>>291090110
She has disobeyed orders more often than not.
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>>291079240
Ass built for Raikages..
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>>291091314
Hinata is a proper noblewoman so she would make every effort to adapt and make the household successful. She would take whatever I gave her (if you know what I mean).
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>>291092379
creature
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>>291092151
You want a woman with a unique, vibrant and spicy personality?
>Not what women are for.
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>>291092151
Tell me what Sakura's personality and how it makes her super unique
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i miss kishimoto's old style...
also, why did the anime tend to make the characters look older?
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>>291092824
Itachi looks cooler when he’s not a tiny twink
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>>291092824
I always thought he was in his mid 20s but he’s canonically 17-21…
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>>291092379
What a boring existence. That marriage would fall apart real quick in real life.
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>>291092529
>Sakura out of nowhere
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>>291090887
idk about on /a/, but there were a lot of disappointed shipperfags over the naruto/hinata and sasuke/sakura pairings elsewhere.
i remember some dislike over the grownup designs and the addition of boruto/himawari.
gaara got some "rip hair" type of posts.
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>>291079161
Sasuke is right here. Bijuu respawn anyway, the risk is unnecessary.
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>>291079215
I like that not a single character not even Naruto trusts Sasuke's motives, but Sakura desperately wants to believe that everything is going back to normalcy.
A true and broken woman.
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>>291092824
Did Kishi really think the arm hanging in the middle was cool?
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>>291093098
Looks cool to me. Big unproportional head makes him look goofy
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>>291092951
The original discussion was about her. You brought up Hinata out of nowhere
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>>291078888
Suigetsu is such a psycho
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>thread is dead
>instigates waifu wars
Sad
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>>291093032
Sakura clearly doesn't believe in him either, what are you on about? Karin is the only one that is inexcusable.
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>>291079044
how are her clothes back together?
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>>291079029
>>291079004
Remember Kin and Zaku?
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>>291080378
Kakashi's fault.
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>>291086570
she's a woman and he is utterly repulsed by anyone who isn't a nubile young boy.
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>>291079069
all the justification Orochimaru needed was
>I want to learn all jutsu and if Madara wins I won't be able to do that. therefore he needs to be defeated
all this bullshit proselytising about being a changed man unironically makes him less sympathetic.
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>>291093098
apparently
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>>291092948
>Submissive women who follow their husband's lead is why marriages fall apart in real life.
Um...
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Can we please stop cutting to all of these unimportant characters and get back to the plot

Everyone other than Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Obito, and Madara feel like they're just here to fill pages
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gaara should've stayed fat.
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>>291079240
>tries one last scene of overt Tsunade fanservice
>Kishi's inability to draw the female form just makes her look frumpy instead
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>>291093563
>a woman with no personality and does everything you tell her and has no opinion of her own
It's obvious you've never been in a relationship.
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>>291078919
wait, why is jiraia not revived?
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>>291093731
Kishi didn't want to revive him
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>>291092824
made their faces longer. Kishi's early art style gave everyone a short and wide face.
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>>291093731
His body is so deep underwater that no human can reach it.
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Would Jiraiya even be able to use sage mode if he was revived? The elders aren't obligated to help him. He would still be a threat, but he's nerfed a good amount without having sage mode.
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>>291079069
why does she have her mark? Wouldn't that be spent fighting madara?
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>>291093098
it's because when he was first introduced, the Akatsuki cloak only had a right sleeve. the left side was closed off.
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>>291093731
because Kishi is dumb and missed out on The Last Ride of the Sannin.
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>>291092529
>>291093182
ok. she has that poison side that I love. you wouldn't get it. inner sakura/sakura's bitchiness > hinata's politeness
sakura's egoism > hinata's generosity.
sakura's chimpouts > hinata standing there as a filler background being a nice girl
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>>291093882
cont.
let's not forget how even hinatafags got tired of hinata's politeness and started forcing her hatred for uchihas.
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>>291079029
Could Oda draw them?
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>>291094220
>her * non-existent hatred for uchihas
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>>291079482
We all remember gaara 1v1 madara
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>>291093811
>His body is so deep underwater that no human can reach it.
But they have a ninja that can breath underwater why the fuck couldn't toby just send him to go get the body for him ?
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funnycomfy
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Damn. Tumbleweeds came quick
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>>291079564
>>291079620
Orochimaru's change in personality is such character assassination. Fun whacky snake man!
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>>291093707
>and does everything you tell her and has no opinion of her own
Hinata literally didn't follow Naruto's orders in the pain arc.
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>>291094871
dumb bitch got herself killed
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>>291079268
After this chapter we get one of the last good fight scenes in the anime(aside from Naruto vs Sasuke)

https://youtu.be/RPJwGGHufQ4?is=nW4yxvlqrE0unP69
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>>291094871
>bitch won't even listen to her man and doesn't know her place
Damn. Even worse.
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>>291094529
It was a power move, Kabuto mentioned the Pain's weapons having enough dna and obito told him "You're pushing your luck"
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>>291079268
Oh this shit was still happening, can Obito just fuck off from this manga forever
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>>291093882
You realize that Hinata is also self-centered, right?
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>>291094735
tends to be the case when a naruto villain goes "good".
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>>291094949
>>291094989
Getting mixed signals here.
Is it bad or good to be obedient?
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>>291095226
it doesn't matter. we know she has no agency on her own
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>>291095280
i'm laughing at her not getting a single hit and getting killed not at her being obedient
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>>291095280
Anything Hinata does is bad. Sorry anon. She's just a boring ass character.
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>>291093429
Are you blind? It's cut off where she was cut
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>>291079240
Tsunade Culo
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>>291079161
>>291093012
Sasuke is right. Also why wouldn't you let the WMDs neutralise themselves while they're still in enemy hands? They'll come back AND out of enemy's immediate possession?
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comf
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The tumbleweeds have been strong this weekend.
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>>291093707
Incorrect. And endorsing girl power cliches to beg for pussy is not going to get you into one either. Tell you what, I hope you land that smart, sassy, independent girl that you get internet points for praising, buddy, you deserve it.
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>>291080817
Maybe he did but Gai tanked them.
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>>291096503
Holy cringe. No need to tell us you're a virgin anon, that's kinda off-topic.
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>>291096503
>>291096582
Ladies, you're both losers.
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>hinny
cringe, my son.
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>>291096503
>endorsing girl power cliche
When did i ever do that? You're a sensitive faggot that's clearly never been in a relationship.
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>>291078919
>55 yo
>forehead wrinkles like she's 75
even the character designs are misogynistic, bravo Kishimoto
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>>291096768
At the same time, you have Jiraiya who's the same age and looks like he could be anywhere from his mid 30s to 40s. If you gave him black hair, he'd probably look like he's in his 20s.
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>>291079215
The smile of a woman ready to raise Karin's daughter
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>>291096503
>Endorsing girl power cliche
...that's literally Hinata's arc, her character is all self-improvement and proving herself, the execution is questionable but it's there.
Way to out yourself as a fake fan, faggot.
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>>291096928
>[Karin's headcanon]
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It's interesting because Karin and Hinata are essentially the same character. They have no agency outside their lust for a guy that shows no interest in them. The only difference is Karin gets more screen time and acts abrasive, but both women are pudding to the men they idolize.
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>>291097057
Karin gets more screentime? Doesn't feel like it.
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gn funnycomfy. it's time for sleepycomfy.
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>>291097120
Hinata really doesn't get much in the manga.
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>>291097163
It is pretty late in Chile, eh? Guess the thread can finally die without you samefagging and necro-bumping lol
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>>291097120
She doesn't

Rank Character Panels Chapters Volumes
1 Naruto 13933 567 71
2 Sasuke 7575 377 69
3 Sakura 5015 359 68
4 Kakashi 4827 361 66
5 Obito (Tobi) 3434 192 41
6 Kurama (Kyubi) 2253 153 44
7 Shikamaru 2090 202 56
8 Gaara 2067 192 48
9 Itachi 1839 142 46
10 Kabuto 1781 140 38
11 Jiraiya 1762 127 39
12 Nagato (Pain) 1708 113 34
13 Tsunade (5th Hokage) 1684 143 47
14 Orochimaru 1557 146 47
15 Rock Lee 1464 150 45
16 Madara 1427 98 19
17 Killer Bee 1324 111 25
18 Neji 1313 132 44
19 Gai 1288 148 41
20 Juubi 1126 58 10
21 Yamato 1092 99 27
22 Sai 1091 108 33
23 Chouji 1077 145 49
24 Kiba 992 138 50
25 Minato (4th Hokage) 981 95 37
26 Ino 978 151 48
27 Hiruzen (3rd Hokage) 876 108 41
28 Yahiko (Pain) 858 74 23
29 Samehada 836 109 36
30 Hinata 770 122 47
31 Gyuki (Hachibi) 717 84 24
32 Hashirama (1st Hokage) 708 72 25
33 Karin 696 70 21
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>>291097366
>Hinata: 694 panels
>Karin: 613 panels
>Difference: 81 panels in Hinata's favor

That's pretty sad since Karin isn't introduced until mid Part 2. You take away Part 1, and Karin easily has more screen time.
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>>291097163
Goodnight anon, may the daily kages bless you with comfy dreams!
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>says he's going to bed
>gets a smidgen of attention and comments again
What a pathetic faggot lol
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>>291097454
Strange how Kishi made effort to develop Hinata then completely abandoned itin part 2. That insecure talk, her offering to help Naruto, her battle with neji, all were great, if we count Naruto always masking around team 7, him being open with Hinata is a great moment.
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>>291097366
>1 Naruto 13933 567 71
>2 Sasuke 7575 377 69
>3 Sakura 5015 359 68
>4 Kakashi 4827 361 66
As it should be. They are the MCs of the manga after all.
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>>291079161
SO WHAT IF YOU CAN SEE THE DARKEST SIDE OF ME?
NO ONE WOULD EVER CHANGE THIS ANIMAL I HAVE BECOME
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>>291097366
>Shikakek in 7th
>SHITbito top 5
>Fat fuck Choji at 23th (too high)
Kishimoto should've been lynched in the streets of Tokyo.
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>>291079178
Jobber black flames that burn everything... unless you just throw away the affected body part lol
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>>291080378
It's ok, the moral of the story is if you just forgive everyone for everything they've done, they'll eventually stop doing it and become good! Everyone is actually a good person and just let them get away with whatever they want long enough and they'll get bored!
Except Danzo.
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>>291093811
Didn't Jiraiya bleed out all over the place? Couldn't he have just got a bit of his blood from there?
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>>291099177
Pretty sure his cut off arm didn't sank on the lake either.
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>>291099177
Stop trying to apply logic to Kishi's mess of a story.
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>>291099177
rain washed it away
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>>291099254
On that note I'm surprised there aren't more criminals/rogue Shinobi learning the Edo Tensei. In the entire manga, who even knew how to do it? Tobirama, Orochimaru, and Kabuto? Is that all?
It's so overwhelmingly overpowered that not learning it because of some weird "muh ethics" while still having the functional equivalent of nukes in biju is even more retarded.
Even if it's a "forbidden" technique that's hidden away somewhere, you'd think every single nation would be DYING to get this technique. With a little spot of DNA from some legendary Shinobi you can unleash an army of God tier Shinobi that cannot die.
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>>291096768
>>291096832
Did you forget that the healing Jutsu ages her?
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>>291093811
The fact everyone seems to know about edo tensei, and the whole Land of Waves introducing body disposers/collectors because a Ninja body holds a lot of secrets...you'd think the villages would have ensured their top tier shinobi, like the fucking Kage, were inaccessible. Kabuto shouldn't have been able to get so many top tier Ninja. The Akatuski should have been his cap with some exceptions.
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>>291099997
>reading comprehension: ESL
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>>291100077
>reading comprehension: ESL
It's more likely a case of retardation that the retards missed that healing Jutsu ages her
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>>291099961
Kishimoto stopped giving a shit, I guess nobody in all those invasions on konoha ever thought about stealing Tobirama's scroll.
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>>291100127
>doubling down
Holy fuck you're retarded.
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>>291100077
Where's the typo in that phrase?
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>>291100238
>reading comprehension: retard
Congratulations on your degradation.
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>>291099997
It's the fact Kishi makes a 50 year old look like an old hag, not the fact she can't retain her youthful appearance. It's okay anon, I understand your confusion.
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>>291100273
Anon, Tsunade's real form can be both due to Kishimoto's own misogynistic views and for reasons that exist within the story, those aren't mutually exclusive.
>>291100508
Anon's point was that Byakugou ages her real form completely unaltered by her youth jutsu.
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>>291099997
How many times did she have to use that before Pain? did the Pain fight age her 20 years?
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>>291100711
>Byakugou ages her real form
Headcannon.
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>>291100237
Ah so this is what down syndrome looks like online. Do carry on. I won't judge the mentally impaired for missing that the healing Jutsu ages her
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>>291101229
Retard, you aren't saving face. You clearly lack reading comprehension.
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>>291100796
If I remember correctly she uses it once during the fight against Oro. We don't know how many times before that during her active ninja days.
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>>291101308
Are all the special needs schools closed today or something?
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>>291101536
What does this prove to you?
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>>291095828
It's a matter of principle for Naruto, he gave them his word that he'd save them and killing their current selves is not a valid alternative regardless of 5hrm respawning later
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>>291079069
If Orochimaru hadn't gone mad scientist, and became 4th Hokage, would the 3 sannin have bee able to stop Obito before things got this out of hand
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>>291078938
kek Manda really was hated. Snakes still work with Sasuke and now this.
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>>291096832
Jiraiya absolutely did not look like a guy in his 30s. heavy laugh lines immediately mark him out as middle-aged. he's just in great shape for a guy his age.
there's supposed to be a juxtaposition between the three, with both Tsunade and Orochimaru hiding behind artificial youth because they're running from reality, whereas Jiraiya makes no effort to hide his age because he accepts who he is with no regrets. the Tsunade Hunt arc makes it clear just how easily Tsunade could've ended up like Orochimaru if she kept living as she did.
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>>291097811
he abandoned everyone not in Team 7 or related to Uchiha in Shippuden.
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>>291099961
it's implied to be a top-secret jutsu practically nobody outside of the upper echelons of Konoha are even aware exists. Orochimaru knows it because he's an autist who dug through the old records, and Kabuto knows it because Orochimaru taught him. every other person aware of it had to know Tobirama on a personal level.
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>>291101040
It's in the manga, stated in her debut arc iirc.
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>>291101584
Biology isn't your forte, eh?
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>>291102876
Nvm biology, i feel like even someone who has no idea how cells work would be able to understand that page regardless.
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>>291079464
>>291081010
Orochimaru just trying to get their asses to stop wasting time.
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>>291098548
Because Danzo was a retard.
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>>291102598
>outside of the upper echelons of Konoha are even aware exists
Suna has to know, at least after Konoha Crush's failure, due to Orochimaru openly summoning two dead Hokage.
Also, I simply refuse to believe that the knowledge of the existence of a zombie-summoning jutsu was simply so well-guarded a secret that forget about not knowing how to do it, no one ever even knew it existed.
Once the existence of this jutsu became widespread knowledge, there should be an arms race to collect as many bodies/samples of DNA as possible. It's simply too overpowered to just leave out and go "eh, we don't need it, whatever".
Also it's retarded that Konoha never used this to wage war on anyone, because I guess historically Konoha was never a war mongering country, no siree, only ran by good guys with ethics and morals, isn't that nice? They could have summoned Hashirama, Minato, and scores of others to conquer the world but just never did because that's mean :(
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>>291104625
No real reason for them not to be using it in this """war""" either.
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>>291097057
Karin is degenerate. She's like the edgy, anti hero version of Sakura. She's a "healer", oh but Sasuke needs to bite her arm and it gets her off because she's freaky. Haha!

Unlike Hinata who is calm and princess-like. She inspired Naruto to stand up for himself against Obito and Neji. She was the voice of reassurance when he had crippling doubts. That's honest waifu material.
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>>291078873
Is Sasuke genuinely a homosexual? What kind of 16 year old has three girls throwing themselves at him and he doesn't take advantage at all? How did he not get an erection here>>291096962
his disdain for Karin notwithstanding
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>>291097057
>Karin and Hinata
Karin and Sakura*
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>>291106037
>Unlike Hinata
Stopped reading
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Rent free
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>>291093818
Edo tensei don't bleed so they can't summon anyway
I suppose Kishi didn't want to taint Jiraiya, which I appreciate
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>>291087892
Taijutsu is just peak
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>>291108198
Multiple edos did use summons.
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>>291079069
>>291079044
shitnade couldn't even spare a thanks to cute Karin
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>>291094871
revealing what a selfish bitch she really is
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>>291108418
>>291107718
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>>291108446
Not really no. She doesn't really do anything.
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>>291069878
I had to do this oh my god is this so fucking hot.
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>>291108474
>character that never does anything lives rent free in your head
Kek embarrassing
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>>291108549
No not really. She is only ever discussed here and I responded to a post about her made by someone else.
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I think I realised something.
The main reason Kishi writes women the way he does is probably because he thinks women being incompetent makes them more endearing. I feel like that would explain a lot. Like, when he writes Sakura constantly crying like a pathetic bitch and being absolutely powerless to do anything about Sasuke, or when he makes Hinata be super weak and basically just a lesser Neji, or when he makes Karin constantly crawl back to Sasuke when he doesn't give a shit about her, he probably finds that cute in a weird way. So it's not necessarily his hate for women, but probably just his view on how he can make them more likable.
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>>291108565
>She is only ever discussed here
The original discussion was about Sakura and you or someone else brought up Hinata out of nowhere when this chapter had nothing to do with her. She lives rent free in your head.
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>>291079240
tsinabunda
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Tayuya
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>>291108614
and kimimaro
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are kage tier.
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>>291108198
They do but apparently only for jutsu that need it or have it as a consequence. Hanzo summoned his salamander and Itachi bled when using Amaterasu (his eye also went blind after using Izanami).
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>>291108544
Senju clan, really?
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>>291102876
>>291102933
You're "both" retarded
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>>291102598
>nobody outside of the upper echelons of Konoha are even aware exists.
Speedreader...
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as a stacykurachad I take a great pleasure dunking on hinatakeks
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>>291107718
Based
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>>291109875
People literally age because their cells divide you moron.
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>>291110162
Okay, retard.
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>>291109316
What do you mean senju clan ?? Its konan.
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Why the thread so tumbleweeds?
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>>291108573
Kishi does not hate women. He set girlboss levels to 5 instead of cranking it up to 11, but come on. In a civilization organized around combat, women would not be members of the military or have the possibility of becoming Kage. He kept a hint of realism by not having women be indistinguishable, or even more powerful than men, but that is far from hatred toward women. He does not reciprocate and overpower male ninjas by showing that they could breastfeed or give birth if they trained hard enough. Clearly Kishi strongly favors women.
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>>291110634
>He kept a hint of realism by not having women be indistinguishable, or even more powerful than men
Humans are literally capable of beating giant beasts in this setting.
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>>291102497
>the Tsunade Hunt arc makes it clear just how easily Tsunade could've ended up like Orochimaru if she kept living as she did.
I don't think my dick would have been able to handle that
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>>291110634
>members of the military or have the possibility of becoming Kage.
Dude we live in 2026 post Captain Marvel's world. Women are more capable leaders and fiercer fighters than men. Kishimoto would be considered a fossil nowadays.
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>>291110634
this is a universe where people have magical powers. there is no reason to assume women are less capable of using said magic than are men in it. one could easily argue that magic nullifies the biological differences in strength between the sexes.
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>>291111244
And yet there are males and females in this setting, the females are a vessel for gestation, and despite verisimilitude extending that far, the females also serve and lead in the military, clearly overpowering and favoring females. Kishi is a raging feminist and I'm tired of pretending he's not.
>>291111687
Yeah, that's why girlboss is set to 5 rather than cranked up to 11. Sure the revolution would execute him now, just like any leader of the revolution from 20 years ago.
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>>291079069
>You see, if I stopped being a pedo terrorist sooner, then Jiraiya might've turned into one instead
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>>291102497
>he accepts who he is with no regrets
He avoids using sage mode because he doesn't like how it makes him look
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>>291111667
What do you even mean? She would be hotter if she had pale skin and purple eye markings?
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>>291111698
Girls still have girl brain and bodies that are clearly superior for baby making and inferior for other purposes. Do you ever wonder why something like Queens Gambit is not based on a true story? Because no female has ever won a match, let alone a title against top male players. Growing humans is intense and a body that is superior for that purpose is highly compromised in every other way. It's not just upper body strength, it is everything else, so there is every reason to think it would extend to combat magic as well since it covers chess.
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>>291102497
You come off as someone who thinks they're smarter than they actually are
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>>291111856
It's fiction anon. Nobody cares about realism.
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>>291111856
you could just as easily apply that logic to children, they have child brains and child bodies so get completely outclassed by adults but this is a series where it is explicitly stated that children can be and often are vastly superior to adults with decades of training under their belts purely because they were born with better chakra reserves or whatever. that was my point; ninja magic is a wildcard that can easily nullify the realworld biological differences between men and women, children and adults, the elderly/infirm and the healthy, and so on. the only thing that matters in this universe is jutsu ability, and everything we've been shown indicates that sex is irrespective to that. Kishi just happened to make all his female characters into jobbers for plot reasons.
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>>291112022
>Kishi just happened to make all his female characters into jobbers for plot reasons.
Not even plot reasons. Kishi is just a bad writer.
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>>291111827
sage jutsu is a technique, not an inherent part of his body. and that bit was mostly meant as a gag anyway.

>>291111861
read the series again, Jiraiya tells her straight to her face that she's acting like Orochimaru when she's moping around getting drunk because she doesn't want to face her destiny of being Hokage. if you think he meant that Orochimaru is a mean drunk, then you're dumber than your post makes you look.
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>>291112022
no amount of magic or superpowers could make a woman competent
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>>291087892
it's creative with how it's represented. gaara stands there and does nothing for most of it because he's so talented. it's effortless for him. while lee has to give it his all just to barely do anything to gaara.
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>>291111804
Orochimaru is practically a hero by having tortured and killed all those children
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>>291112114
You seem very sensitive. Sign of low intelligence
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>>291112171
Gaara wasn't even doing anything, his sand worked without his input. the only time he actually engages is when he tries to use sand coffin on Lee and managed to mangle his leg and arm.

the appeal of the fight is that Lee is doing pure DBZ hype shit. he literally drops his weighted training clothes like Goku did against Ma Jr and uses Kaioken to start wailing on the smug bastard like Goku did to Vegeta.
>oh shit the dorky gag character was secretly one of the strongest people in the world*?
like catnip to 12 year old nerds
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>>291108573
There is nothing there for Sakura and Hinata that you can do and will not take away focus from Naruto and the Uchiha's. I have yet to see a fanfic write it better than Kishi did.
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>>291112361
>no argument
concession accepted
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>>291112429
Argument for what? You went on some tangent about something i didn't even comment on.
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>>291112479
you said Jiraiya looked young, I showed you he did not. you insulted me, I insulted you back, and you started crying about it. what more do you want? not my fault you can't handle bantz
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>>291112550
>you said Jiraiya looked young
No i didn't
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>>291111748
Kishimoto puts females in fighting roles to humiliate them, not because he wanted to be woke about "women can fight too".
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>>291112562
>>291096832
>looks like he could be in his 30s or 40s give him black hair and he'd look like he's in his 20s
retards can't remember what they said yesterday
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>>291112115 #
No amount of super power would make a man beat something like the tailed beasts, but that's not how Kishi wrote his story.
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>>291111827
I'm pretty sure he only said that as a joke. The reason he doesn't use Sage Mode more often is because his version is an imperfect one and he needs the frogs to help him out.
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>>291079004
wow he really wrote orochimaru into something he isn't anymore
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>>291112417
>that you can do and will not take away focus from Naruto and the Uchiha's.
I fail to see the problem.
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>>291112618
Again. You come off as someone who believes they're smarter than they actually are.
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>>291112678
>he needs the frogs to help him out.
That's supposed to be standard.
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>>291079161
Naruto could have explained he made friends with them
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>>291112749
>jump in the trenches
>"why am I getting shot at"
retards think people can read their minds and understand their motives without speaking them
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>>291079161
They're treating the biju as damsels in distress...
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>>291112812
I was only commenting how stupid you are, you've only been furthering my point with all your response.
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>>291112936
you jumped into an existing discussion and made to attempt to differentiate yourself from the person who was already speaking. this is an anonymous website, people cannot see that you are a different person. you assume that because YOU know you aren't the original poster, everyone else must know as well. this is classic sign of low intelligence; the inability to understand that people don't have the same knowledge you do.

to put it another way, imagine if in the middle of a war the other army got replaced overnight with a different army but who were wearing the uniforms of the original army. any reasonable person would assume they're still fighting the original army, or at bare minimum an ally of them.
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>>291113043
You seem very sensitive and stupid
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>>291112400
>oh shit the dorky gag character was secretly one of the strongest people in the world*?
>like catnip to 12 year old nerds
definitely that too. lee just worked really well as an underdog character to go against gaara who was already built up in the forest of death.
and lee getting back up while still unconscious and even after losing is great too. it wouldn't hit as hard if lee actually won.
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>>291113269
Based



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