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>>291092989
>comfort me with your body like Roxy did to me?
>no way fag

>>291093147
kek poor sylphie

>>291092989
it's kinda written a bit between the lines, but the obsession rudy has with roxy is fate being at work most likely. so it's kind of given that he'll lose it when she dies. their child is the future savior of the world after all, and fate will do anything to achieve that

>>291093147
i mean that is a pretty offputting way to say it, especially in a time of grief and not like dirty talk or something

>>291092989
It's contrived and happens for maximum suffering in what the writer intended as a doomed timeline.

>>291093147
There's such a thing as time and place

How will rudeus children even confront hitogami if he’s in some pocket dimension

>>291096455
You can reach his pocket dimension if you collect the 5 drigger relics.

>>291096726
Cant you just ignore him? What can he actually do?

>>291093147
Roxy had way more rizz when she did it.

>>291096759
Hitogami will whisper into someone's ear, gain their trust, and then either suggest something that will fuck the family over or explicitly order that someone to kill the family

>>291096336
ask me how I know you have autism

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>>291096799
this, she should have just forced her way in

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>>291092989
>creates a Sylphie automaton but not Roxy
OH NO NO NO NO Roxybros...

>>291097515
Just to kill it

>>291092989
also exposing eris
roxy and sylphie could save rudeus
eris could not

>NOOO I LOST ROXY ITS OVER
>wallows in pity, lashes out at everyone around him, and cries
>NOOO I LOST SYLPHIE ITS OVER
>wallows in pity, lashes out at everyone around him, and cries
>NOOO I LOST AISHA ITS OVER
>wallows in pity, lashes out at everyone around him, and cries
>NOOO I LOST ERIS ITS OVER
Why doesn't this retard ever learn his lesson? Hitogami got Roxy killed, everything else was on Rudy being a complete retard and being a piece of shit whenever someone he cares about dies.

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>>291097862
hitogami...

>>291097855
Eris punching him caused the effect of him going to seek a whore. She cant stop fucking him over can she?

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Hitogami was right.

It took literally losing everything, up to and including his home, his family, and even his freedom, for Rudeus to even CONSIDER that he might have a problem. Everybody was supporting him the whole time, right up until he pushed them too far. Most died just trying to support him. Hitogami basically did nothing. It was all 100% Rudeus and his actions. He could've got his drunk lecherous ass off the couch and cared about his family, but would rather piss it all away and watch them get killed because at least that doesn't mean taking resposibility.

When the message is "You're a piece of shit, be a better person or literally everybody you care about will die" it's kind of hard to sympathize with him. I guess I'm supposed to feel sorry for him losing everything, but really I feel sorry for everybody around him losing their lives trying to support the bum.

Care about your family, I guess is the message.

Even if Oldi did not go back in time, would Orsted have attempted to correct the issue and get a new reseted timeline Dudi on his side? Was the time leap not really necessary, or was it a major component that had to be done for this god war to be finished?

Is hitogami aware of the timelines rudeus doesn’t exist in?

>>291093724
You could say this was all to push him into time traveling and telling his younger self how to protect Roxy.

>>291097997
You're a fucking idiot and I can't even begin to imagine what your family life was like

Eris getting punched got me hard

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>>291095941
>>291096413
>it's okay when miggers do it

>>291098128
It didn't involve my dad beating his wife when his best friend died, then beating his mother when his ex-wife died.

>>291097997
Shame that the show have to give him two chances. I hope this is the last one

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>>291097979
she can't

>>291092989
based, based, based

>>291098310
To be fair, Rudy was pretty damn peppy after banging Eris until he realized she'd ditched him.

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>little boys

>>291098157
Roxy took charge and gave him a good, passionate molesting while he was vulnerable while Sylphie tried to do it in a weird passive way. If it was Roxy in Sylphie's shoes, she would've had his dick in her mouth before he knew what was happening.

>>291093147
>hey rudy just fuck me and forget about roxy ok?
Holy negative rizz, no wonder he destroyed sylphie puppet when he saw it.

>>291092989
>misery porn that doesn't advance the plot at all to tell a story that was already told last episode
I can't be the only guy who was annoyed by this episode

>>291092989
Rifujin never hid the fact that Roxy is his waifu, it literally says so in his Twitter bio. Roxy is the Emilia of Mushoku Tensei. She is the girl Rudeus idolizes his whole life, in case the panty shrine didn't make that obvious. So it makes sense that everything goes wrong once she dies.

>>291098572
I like misery porn but left disapointed because I was expecting more. Eris crying in the floor was top tier though

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>>291092989
brutal

>>291098428
Oh shit her pedophilia was probably active at that time

>>291098181
But you are surely the paradigm of virtue and all things righteous, amirite?
That's why you can sit high in your pedestal and confidently judge everyone else

>>291098942
Nah, I'm lazy and kind of shit.
But even I can see that "don't beat your wife" isn't that hard of a plan to follow. Maybe also fuck your wife when you're desperate to fuck someone and she's asking you to fuck her? The fact that I'm so shitty, and this is obvious even to ME, just highlights how awful it is.

Also, to turn things back to the original point for a moment: Rudy's a shit, Rudy's always been a shit, and Rudy will always be a shit unless threatened with the full annihilation of everything he cares about to change his attitude. That's the situation here. It's not just "oh don't bitchslap Sylphie so she doesn't die in civil war" at which point he'd just go back to his usual routine. No, literally everybody in his life needs to die before he finally gets some perspective and thinks that, maybe, drinking and whoring and blaming everybody else isn't a way to get a good life.

>>291099175
He even rapes lol he is indeed a piece of shit

>>291099175
rock bottom theory

>>291097997
The message of the entire series has been "Your only chance at a new life is the one that you create for yourself" and this is another angle on it.

>>291099175
>>Leddit

>>291093147
>>291097428
>know the workplace rules

Rudeus does grow, but it's fragile and incomplete right now. That's what makes the Oldeus timelime so tragic, losing Roxy makes him slip backwards and undo the progress he made.
He could have still recovered with the right support, but Sylphie showed the wrong kind of pity since she was rightfully frustrated and he lost it. The second he hit Sylphie, it was over. He crossed a line and couldn't mentally recover.

>>291098428
Onii-chans (broken) are fine too

>>291093147
>You look like you had a bad day.
>Boobs? Wanna touch boobs?
Feel free to steal this joke for xitter money.

I was hoping to see more of this rudeus being a piece of shit, raping, killing and such. The part where he burned all the people in asura kingdom was pretty cool I guess. It felt like some melodramatic family drama and I just don’t care for that.

>>291093147
Her mistake is that she asked for consent.
She should have just forced herself onto him while Lillia ushers the sisters out of the room and Zenith just sits in the next room vaguely approving.

>>291100259
>Your only chance at a new life is the one that you create for yourself"
how did rudeus create the reincarnation for himself

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>>291098736
God damn it anon

>>291093147
Bitch got rejected.

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The more cucked Sylphie is the cuter she gets

when Roxy made a move on Saddeus to get him over his father's death, she did it brimming with NTRman aura. however, when Sylphie tried to do it to help him get over Roxy she did it in a weird subby way and is like "uhh you can rape me really hard or something if you want" BITCH GET OUTTA HERE WITH THAT WEAKASS APPROACH
note how, when Sylphie cured Rudy's erectile dysfunction, she did it in the NTRman way. she bullied his dick into working properly by doping up on aphrodisiacs and jumping him.
Rudy's dick...has a type.

>>291101812
Fitz era Sylphie would have done this better desu. I feel like getting married really made Sylphie a much more pathetic character...

>>291101209
That's the point. He was reborn into a wealthy family, with natural talent and good looks: all the things that people complain about every day and say "my life would be different if I had those things", and yet after Eris left him he still found himself falling back into self-loathing and depression until he realized that he needed to be the advocate of change in his own life. The reincarnation wasn't the moment his second chance at life started: it was the moment he realized that he needed to take responsibility and seize it for himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkcdLR_tdtA

Its what this OP was about.

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cuckphie...

>>291093147
>>291095941
Given what we know about Rudy's perversion and libido, sex is probably a guaranteed way to cheer him up. Hell, she knows that's how he ended up with Roxy the first time to begin with so it hurts even deeper that he used it as an excuse to cheat on her but won't do the same thing with her to get over his grief.

>crawl into bed and comfort him?
no
>ask him to rape you in front of your whole family
that has to be the answer to our problems

>>291104049
which begs the question how the fuck is Roxy so intuitive with that shit

>>291101612
I wonder how bad the sex with her feel if she get cucked so often...

>>291104200
For Rudy's tastes she's got the worst body out of his wives. Being able to pedofeel Roxy is a desired experience that took a lifetime and a quarter to fulfill and Eris is bodacious tier. Sylphie is just filling in a third bodytype for variety, but would be 3rd place if they weren't his wives but whores in a lineup. The emotional aspect of banging your childhood friend is there to a very small extent, but because of Rudy's past life it's not the "real" bond you'd have with your childhood friend that Sylphie probably has for him.

>>291093147
>when your starfish wife tries to replace your gilf wife
oof

>>291098736

She shouldn't have joined in the rebellion then.

>universe gave Rudeus a lesson
>is so stubborn and selfish that he spend the rest of his life trying to undo it
>goes back in time to make younger self learn absolute nothing about consequences of you actions

I know this is a wish fulfillment isekai but honestly we should have had atleast an episode more to develop oldeus more and have some self-reflection and acceptance of his action which then leads to atonement. I just feel like it’s cheap how you just can reverse shit like nothing happened. Then it’s just drama for the dramas sake.

>>291104791
>>universe gave Rudeus a lesson
Hitogami is some shitty demon, not "the universe."

It was better than expected, but still not what I wanted. I think the goofy character design of middleagedeus and the bright color palette hurt the tone.

>>291104813
Half of that shit was Rudeus fault, yes Roxy was killed but he still had a wife, daughter, mother, sisters and friends, they all loved him, even after going back in time he was still externalizing all the blame to shitogami.

How much was hitogami seething watching future rudeus come and fuck over his decades long plan?

>>291104983
I thought the whole point is that Hitogami can't see shit when it comes to Rudeus so he's completely in the dark about the entire affair because Rudeus didn't let anyone else see his future version in the present.

Truth is thar rudeus is and will always be a piece of shit.
Needing 3 retries in life to not self sabotage doesnt make him good like at all lmao

>>291092989
>>291093147
why the hell does this nigga have multiple wives, where is the church in all this

>>291105257
and the second time literally everyone around him was trying to help him, and he had a loving wife, daughter, sisters, best friend, etc.
all he had to do was not be an alcoholic and physically abuse them

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Notice how Rudeus stops drinking when Eris starts beating his ass

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>>291104135
she can't hide her true nature

>>291105506
what was her thought process here

I felt so bad for eris
Luke would never treat her like that

>>291105379
Killing his friends and family and withholding cures for political reasons.

>>291105740
bigamists should be persecuted

>>291098128
Not that anon, but yes, It is 90% Rudeus' fault. yes, Hitogami killed Roxy, though currently we don't know how the rat even got there, it is dangerous on its own. Everything else Rudeus ruined by himself. Hitogami just knew Rudeus is weak enough to do that. That's why be the end Old Rudeus rage has started going away, because the longer the lived, the more he was realizing Hitogami is an ass, but Rudy still did most by himself.

>>291105642
rudeus talked shit so he gets hit

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>>291105642
>Eris
>thought process

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>>291105506

What if eris arrived before roxy's sickness?
How would Rudeus react then?

>>291092989
I know its a bait thread start, but seriously apart from Roxy, EVERYTHING bad that happens after that is just Rudeus being Rudeus. Its not Oldeus being some distinctly different character. He's just this ultra emotional retard that is always one step from going full nigger and causing tragedies wherever he walks.

>>291098080
You could indeed.

>>291105039
He can see it if he bothers to look. He didn't, because Oldeus was no longer a threat to him.

>>291104135
Didn't she get the idea from a discussion where Elinalise mentioned it, but also said she wouldn't be the one to bang him because he's her granddaughter's husband? Roxy was already in love with him at the time so she put 2 and 2 together, then went to his room herself.

>>291106718
Roxy is what centers Rudeus, she's the one who got him to go outside afterall

That said, Sylphie's death was also a result of Hitogami's machinations

>>291097997
The message is that the MC is a good person. He just needed to be born in noble family, with a godlike talent for magic (without Laplace factor he wouldnt be anything special) and with good looks. Oh, and he just needed to know the future (because without that knowledge he would still fuck everything up. Roxy and Cliff were on Hitogami, but rest is on Rudeus).

>>291107311
Rudeus isn't a saint and he isn't a demon, he's a human being with the flaws of one. In this timeline it led to tragedy.
I don't get why this is so hard for people to wrap their heads around, protagonist doesn't have to mean moral exemplar

>>291098572
Yes, this episode was retarded

>>291107630
At the begining of the story reader is being led into beliieviing that a fat neet was given a second chance at life. With a knowledge from a modern world and regrets of mistakes in his previous life he stives to be a better person.
As the story goes on you learn that all the lifehacks he has are just gifts of fate. Looks, mana pool, education, that eye power.
When shit hits the fan he is still a fragile faggot that ruins life of the people who care about him. He needs a fucking guide/walkthough for his life from his future self to turn out decent.
The story would be much more entertaining with his harem dead, him maning up and getting revange.

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My soul

>>291105642
Anger as usual for Eris
But the entire reason she ran off is because she was self-conscious about how Rudy was outpacing her. She literally didn't think she was worth being loved because she wasn't strong.
I think by challenging him constantly she wanted to show how strong she had gotten because in her mind that's what makes Rudy a worthy mate and she probably thought if she showed she was strong enough he'd think the same of her.
>>291107161
My point is that Roxy is really good and not awkward at seducing Rudy. I'm gonna chalk it up to her voyeurism. Zenith and Paul probably wasn't her first foray into watching people fuck and yeah, maybe she got more tips from Lise who wouldn't feel comfortable having that conversation with her granddaughter.
>>291108181
At the beginning of the story the reader is led to believe that a fat neet was given the chance to fulfill the wishes all of us had at one point or another of being superpowered, important, and having free reign to have sex with and have kids with attractive women and legal lolis who were madly in love with us, while also losing our virginity in our teens romantically to the hot redheaded tsundere jailbait that we spent a good chunk of our puberty thus far lusting over. Rifujin switched gears and made the story more serious because of early fan reaction to Rudy and Roxy chapters, but MT was always a wish-fulfillment hidden ending run of a VN and was never going to stray too far from that "vision".

>>291107630
He's an irredeemable piece of shit that's worse than 99% of people and that fact that people still try to pretend like this shit is some well written story of growth and redemption is laughable. I like fucked up protagonists including ones that fail or never even seek redepmtion but their has to be something compelling for why that is, Rudeus is just a piece of garbage that the story tries to tell you is growing by having shit handed to him while actually just remaining a piece of garbage.

>>291108343
>My point is that Roxy is really good and not awkward at seducing Rudy.
Yeah, you do have a point, though in this episode I'm not even sure it counts as Sylphie trying to seduce him. It's more like she made herself available in case he was in the mood, which obviously didn't work. Roxy's probably better at it anyway but even Sylphie put in a lot more effort when she wanted to cure his ED, this time she didn't even make an attempt. I don't think she even wanted to seduce him, like there was no desire on her part at all, it was more like she wanted him to know she was "available" in case it might help but wasn't actually looking to get frisky herself.

>>291108388
>He's an irredeemable piece of shit that's worse than 99% of people
Leave your house, watch the news, or hell keep lurking 4chan

>>291108473
99.99% of people don't have to try to "redeem" themselves from jerking off to their niece in the first place you delusional freak.

Roxy was the first girl Rudeus met, the one who melted away many of his traumas, the first one he loved, his goddess. She's his fated love and births the savior of the world.
Rifujin literally said that if Rudeus married Roxy first he would stay monogamous.
Sylphie really can't compete with her.

>>291108517
Something like 1 in 5 girls are sexually assaulted by the time they turn 12. Stands to reason that there are a LOT of boys and men doing the assaulting if the number is that high.

>>291104791
>self reflection and atonement
that is for lesser mages, esl-kun. we team seething revenge here

>>291108547
I think he probably would have stayed monogamous if the specific circumstances that resulted in him sleeping with Roxy didn't happen. I think if Eris stuck around back after the first time they slept together, he'd have probably stayed loyal to her too.

>>291108550
lol at pulling out the retarded obama era radfem stat (which was about college whores not 12 year olds) of "assault." MTfags need to somehow channel a chud-feminist ouroboros to defend how terrible Rudeus is.

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He was right btw. After the Orsted fight its gonna be a long time before another thing happens.

>>291108592
I first heard that statistic in 8th grade when Bush was still in office during a school assembly and it was definitely in regards to 12 year olds.

>>291108586
If Roxy was first wife and any girl, even Sylphie, tried to seduce him in a moment of weakness he would be way less likely to fall for it since he treats his Roxyfagging way more seriously. Even if he did, he wouldn't take them home as a wife.

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>>291108615
No one's falling for this shit faggot, this gay stat about college whores regretting drunk sex was plastered everywhere during the peak of #metoo and obama wokecore
https://rainn.org/red-zone/campus-sexual-violence-statistics/

>>291097997
orly? i skipped to the ending in the WN. and all the time travelling boogerloo was suppose to be some part of bigger plot due to ancient hero trying correct stuff, because the isekai was always heading towards DOOM? i forgot.

>>291098572
>>misery porn that doesn't advance the plot
thats Re:Zero.

>>291108343
My point is that to me the MC turned out to be the same loser he was before and without all the handholding he wouldn't get where he is now. When I began wachting the series I was looking forward for more self improvement in mental department. This whole season is slowly debunking Rudeus's progress as a person.

>>291108607
Lot of show get some useless spinoff with side side side characters (mha) maybe we will get a season with oldeus. Would be kino.

>>291108703
>This whole season is slowly debunking Rudeus's progress as a person.
Missed the point.
Rudeus has improved but those ugly parts of him were never addressed and self-reflected on, just healed and smoothed over. That's why he can slip back, like a drug addict who was sober for years then a traumatic event sends them spiraling back into their old ways.
Like Hitogami said he had the seeds to return back to being a piece of shit. But even at his lowest, he also had the seeds to be a good and selfless person, like when he tried to save Nanahoshi and her friends and died for it.
He has way more self-reflection later, which cements the change and means the Oldeus timeline is no longer possible since he wouldn't go full retard anymore. When he dies as an old man in the proper timeline, he does it a changed man who could handle anything, even being reincarnated into a challenging new life.

>>291108656
Idgaf about what you're talking about metoo this Obama that. I'm telling you I first heard that stat in 2003 and it was about 12 year olds. I didn't know about the college campus shit you're talking about until you brought it up
And also look at that pedo chart from the 90s about attraction to minors that has been spammed on every board since I started lurking on this stupid site

>>291108825
And I'm telling you that you're a lying faggot that tried to pull the college whore stat that was plastered everywhere out of your ass to defend rudeus, misremembered it being about 12 year olds, and are now trying to play it off as something you heard even further back.

So all his wives died or something? I need to catch up. What happens now?

>>291108568
the one who deserved the most, Norn isn't here

>>291108914
In the bad timeline, yes. In the current timeline, no, nobody died.

>>291108607
I think it would have been an inspired choice to do the Oldeus timeline first, then end with him going back and having the reveal. Probably only a few more episodes of it to flesh it out but enough it would have been a shock for people not knowing.

>>291108974
So is the anime in the bad timeline? Will there ever be a happy ending in this series?

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>>291108914
old man future protag time travels to tell current protag how to avoid blue wife dying and setting off a chain reaction of suffering that ruins his life and makes him go nuclear. old man leaves his diary which contents are in current episode.

>>291104791
>self-reflection and acceptance
that shit is for gaijins, no honorable nipponjin would tolerate that bs
take that woke shit to your cartoons

Episode was kinograhy, but it was held back by knowing in advance that he would time travel back to change it.

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So I'm an anime only and just got to the 4th turning point. While I'm a bit shocked with this twist I don't understand why Rudeus needs to defeat Hitogami or deal with him at all. Doesn't he only give advice to Rudy and Rudy doesn't even have to follow it? Just dgaf when he is summoned again, what's the problem.
And if Hitogami is omnipotent - wouldn't that mean he should've intervened the very moment Oldeus appeared? I'm confused

>>291108894
https://www.nsvrc.org/lifespan-sexual-violence-against-youth-young-people/
>Rape is more likely to happen to younger women than older women. When discussing their first experience of rape, women surveyed reported that (Tjaden, 1998) :
>22% were under 12 years old

https://www.nctsn.org/sites/default/files/resources/child_sexual_abuse_fact_sheet_parents_teachers_caregivers.pdf
>Child sexual abuse is not rare. Retrospective research indicates that as many as 1 out of 4 girls and 1 out of 6 boys will experience some form of sexual abuse before the age of 18

https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/newsroom/news-releases/nearly-half-sexual-abuse-first-happens-age-15-or-younger-global
>Nearly one out of five women and one out of seven men aged 20 and older globally faced sexual violence as a child, according to a study published in The Lancet today.

>>291092989
Did that raid scene really have to be so brutal?

>>291108995
No, the bad timeline isn't the one the anime is mainly following

>>291109029
>if Hitogami is omnipotent - wouldn't that mean he should've intervened the very moment Oldeus appeared?
because he is asshole. and there are greater powers at work in this isekai? but it's been years since i read the WN ending...

>>291108690
>Re:Zero
the plot advances on the first and last episode, the in-betweens are just ridiculous ways and reasons the MC dies to

>>291109029
I'd presume it was needed to let him go backwards to warn Rudeus to make Rudeus stronger, earlier.

>>291097090
Lets just make everyone deaf.

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>>291109051
>Hitogami is asshole. why Rudy hate?

>>291106795
Omnipotence is such a bullshit trap hole because it predisposed human qualities onto something thats supposed to be universal. It also gets trapped by the idea of free will or not and a butterfly effect so you end up having to predisposed certain points and times as *pivotalable* into alternate timelines.. as anyone who knows probability this quickly reaches impossible to computer because you have derivatives to the.. infinity.

>>291104135
Migger genes

>>291104135
Roxy is a succubus who repressed her desires due to migger autism. If she went wild she'd probably outfuck Elinalise.

>>291108781
As you say, Oldeus dies as a changed man, after everyone who cared about him died because of his actions. Current Rudeus on the other hand got a walkthrough in a form of a diary. He is just avoiding his mistakes because of some insane plot twists as if reincarnating wasn't enough.

>>291109029
Hitogami isn't omnipotent. He explains that he usually doesn't try to watch more than three people at a time because the permutations start to compound exponentially. He also struggles hard to fight against strong fates and where destiny/the timeline WANTS to go.

I HATE TIME TRAVEL

>>291109325
TECHNICALLY he is a changed Rudeus.
bad timeline rudeus > time travel to past rudeus > gives not-bad-yet timeline rudeus diary and info > from bad to not-bad-yet timeline, he ends up in good(?) timeline rudeus.
Same but different but still same

>>291104135
Elinalise is feeding her tips on how to improve her sex life with Rudy all the time, it's why Rudy worships Roxy so much and considers her the most inventive and experimental of his wives.

>>291109364
Multiverse and time travel are two bullshit tropes unless the entire plot is about those two elements. In MT's case it's very clearly a multiverse/otherworld story from the jump and not an element done later on. Time travel is OP and I feel like Oldeus should have researched living longer and THEN learned how to time travel and I guaran-fucking-tee that is going to be just the tip of the iceberg of character decisions I'm going to complain about now that time travel has been introduced into the story. I'm happy that they already addressed why current Rudeus won't be able to do it though. Or at least I think that's what I interpreted from the scene at the dragon shrine or wherever.

>>291109029
Same reason why Eris and Rudy refuse to communicate, why Hitogami reveals his master plan when Rudy is at the peak of his power instead of waiting until he's on his deathbed and why Rudy never thinks to go look for Hitogami's biggest hater for help.

>>291097997
It's like 90% Rudy, Roxy's death is Hitogami's fault.
In a better show this would be a moment where Rudy realizes he hasn't grown as much as he thinks and starts making an effort to be more selfless, but it's MT so it's just gonna be an excuse for him to go "grrrrr I hate the evil white man we have to kill him before he fucks up my life again!"
MT is so weirdly rooted in this idea that change only comes from outside factors and individuals' inner worlds don't really matter. Trying way too hard to prove the author's point about circumstances making the man.

>>291109588
Rudy refuses to communicate because he thinks Eris intentionally fucked him over. Eris is too retarded to communicate. Hito is trolling Rudy and probably couldn't wait any longer to drop those bombs. Rudy is scared shitless of Orsted

>>291109588
last episode pointed out it's practically impossible to find Orsted unless he wants to be found. Only with Nanahoshi's help can Rudeus find him.

>>291109365
In my eyes he isn't. You don't change just because someone told you how to.
It's like an author tries to tell you just to be yourself. Even if deep down there you're still a total loser and toxic person. Don't worry, you;ll get reincarnated as a MC with superpowers. And if you still fuck up everything despite living life on cheacodes you still don't have to worry.
Your future self will come back in time and tell you to avoid life distasters, so you don't have to change.
I'm not trying to convince you, it's just how I view these series right now.

>>291108781
>He has way more self-reflection later, which cements the change and means the Oldeus timeline is no longer possible since he wouldn't go full retard anymore. When he dies as an old man in the proper timeline, he does it a changed man who could handle anything, even being reincarnated into a challenging new life.
Okay but he does ever tell his wives that he met them when he was mentally a 40 year old and that their entire relationship is built on that lie of ommission? That feels like the bare minimum for this fucker finally confronting his flaws but even if it happened I feel like the author would just cheap out and go "it's ok dudy we love u anyway :)"

>>291109774
i get it but you're reading an isekai, don't expect anything wildly different than:
>Don't worry, you;ll get reincarnated as a MC with superpowers. And if you still fuck up everything despite living life on cheacodes you still don't have to worry.

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>>291098539
lmao

>>291097997
This. MT makes Rudeus out to be the most vile, selfish piece of shit possible, but then wants you to feel bad for him when bad things happen to him due to his arrogance or more often his inaction. It wants you to pity and sympathize with him while simultaneously telling you this was all his fault (then the narrative rug pulls you and tells you it's actually Hitogami's 900 IQ master plan so please pity him again)
This feels whiplash meant to smokescreen a lack of depth. You watch Rudeus fuck the cute girls and you like the cute girls so you either self-insert as Rudeus or focus on the moment-to-moment chemistry, and then while you're distracted it shoves some pity-based miseryporn down your throat and treats it like it's some deep exploration of reality where bad things happen to good people.

Question, can man-god see Rudeus all the time?

It annoyed me that future Rudeus didn't tell current Rudeus whether or not man-god would know about their conversation.
I assume he can watch what Rudeus is doing all the time?

>>291109884
I assume he must've been watching what Rudy would do to see how things with the diseased rat unfold, so he should know.

>>291097997
Rudeus really gets so much more support than he deserves.

>>291110037
It's because he is literally all of us.

>>291110094
Speak for yourself anon

>>291110094
speak for yourself.

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Hitogami unironically does nothing wrong. He knows that Rudy was a fat paedo on Earth and he needs to suffer

Hitogami is literally me fr no cap

>>291110200
W hitogami

>>291109870
You're pushing this too far, I think.
It's fine, even good to have a deeply flawed protagonist.
Everyone sneers (for good reason) about Rudeus getting more and more second chances, but from character writing perspective it's not a problem.
If the LN features at least a throwaway line about Rudeus going "woah that was massively retarded I basically made most of my problems, hitogami or not" after reading the diary, that would be enough in my book

>>291109029
why do you think Hitogami is omnipotent? Are you retarded?

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>>291110200
Imagine having the capacity to send every retard on Rudy's level into the isekai they always wanted only to pull the rug from under them and turn their life to shit anyway as a result of their own retardation
Imagine not doing that when you have an eternity and you're bored
Hitogami is a more sympathetic character than Rudy so far

>>291109753
>Rudy refuses to communicate because he thinks Eris intentionally fucked him over. Eris is too retarded to communicate.
plot-induced stupidity
>Hito is trolling Rudy and probably couldn't wait any longer to drop those bombs.
also plot-induced stupidity
>Rudy is scared shitless of Orsted
He is explicitly not scared shitless of him which is why Orsted is interested in him (and Nanahoshi) to begin with.
>>291109770
That's a flimsy excuse trying to cover up a gaping plot hole.
Rudy is a massive anomaly in the current timeline (not present in previous loops, mana potentially on par with laplace, unaffected by Orsted's curse). He went on a rampage after major events caused the deaths of people close to him and started abducting random people and interrogating them about Hitogami. Orsted couldn't have already looped because he had no clue about either Nanahoshi or Rudy in the current timeline.
Even if we assume Rudy spent decades looking for him there was no reason for Orsted to actively avoid him. Why else would he spare him if he wasn't at least a little bit interested in how his life would turn out?

>>291110512
He's not doing it just because he's bored though.

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I don't get it, why did she die?

>>291110576
What's not to get? She rejoined Ariel and they lost

>>291110576
Didn't have Rudy to bail her

>>291110576
For being a dirty elf.

>>291110576
u dumb?

You all like hitogami so much, why not suck his white weiner?

>>291109884
The extent of hitogami's power gets covered later down the line. They detail it a few times actually, one of which will happen in part 2 of this season. It's better to just wait and see.

>>291092989
The Mango won the battle in this timeline with this one move but it cost him the war

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>>291092989
>the entire episode

>>291105379
the Christcucks burned his house down

>>291105379
Neither him nor any of his wives have a religion where this is banned. Other random churches don't have anything to do with them, obviously.

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>>291110572
>It's just a hobby

I'm a mangaonly, is this episode a dream sequence or something?

>>291112513
it's a "stop speedwatching" episode

>>291100259
>this is another angle on it
Immediately undermined by le time travel giving him a pseudo do over

>>291110254
Oldeus literally points out how Man-God barely did a thing, he merely got the ball rolling, and Rudeus' own personal weaknesses and failings cause all the rest of the issues. He gave genuinely great advice to Rudeus, forgive Eris, deal with the rat, figure out how to get stronger fast, take care of the people in your life, and if something still goes wrong, don't wallow in your regrets as that is exactly what Man-God wants you to do etc.

That whole convo was alot more than just giving Rudeus the tools to take on/out the Man-God. It was his Third Chance. Wish i could have a Second frankly.

>>291111919
>t. fatherless leftie

Well Well Rudy Hitogami loves playing Games with ya

>>291111919
you think the Millis cult burnt his house down? unless they all figured out that it was him that took the book and killed a handful of men escaping etc.

I guess it makes sense, i figured it was a revenge strike from him burning down Eris' homeland. He was probably thought of as a mercurial ally if you were on his good side, or the living incarnation of satan by his enemies.

Quick Question:

When does Hitogami find out that Oldeus was cuckolding him?

>>291110512
Unironically Hitogami saves the story for me

>>291110506
I dunno, I assume so because he's a GOD? Fucking idiot

>>291092989
Deserved. How do you get gifted a life of luxury, but fuck it up by being a spineless shit, only to die and get reincarnated into another world not only being gifted, and into a high class family, but also keeping your knowledge as a 30-something man--complete with multiple people that care about your and adore you, yet you're still a clueless, ungrateful, petty and stupid coward who wallows in his own self-pity on a slightest setback. Rudeass doesn't get enough hate for how shitty a person he is and that's putting aside Hitogami being absolute shit.

>>291105642
Rudy was becoming a raging alcoholic that constantly cheated on his wife. So she tried to knock some sense into him

>>291109040
it's too perfect

>>291105642
A corrective beating was in order.

>>291105379
>where is the church in all this
seething