So, what's the moral of this story?
>>291135511Fuck off already.
Disney did this better
>>291135511>So, what's the moral of this story?Cute lonely tomboys don't deserve love.
>spamming this slop again and againMove on, faggot.
Lara left Mari to be in Gundam
>>291135602Japan did it better with the toei movie
Luca won
>>291135665He got cucked too though
>>291135511Boy, it sure would've been nice to see ONE scene like this """memorial""" artwork in the show.
>>291135692You don't know what cucked means.
>>291135511>So, what's the moral of this story?Be a selfish bitch if you wanna be a true human female.
>MC is the worst character in their series
Don't be a jerk to your daughter or else she might end up doing something stupid.
Shit I didn't realize and put Oita in my Japan trip I guess I'll just take all I need from Kyoto as I don't want to give a single yen to them.
Is Revue worth watching? I hear it mentioned a lot in these threads.
>>291136157If you like takarazuka or yuri, yeah.I don't like yuri so I didn't like it, but it is very high quality.
>>291135511So what happened again? QRD? Without reading the full other thread entirely it looks like a yuri couple didn’t happen or something?
>>291136258Just download the final episode and FF to the last 6 minutes.
>>291136258Lara denied true love for Mari and the world. Epilogue shows 6 months later that she had an on again off again relationship with Luca and ultimately left the town and everyone behind.
>>291135511Trust no one. Even the most outwardly-competent storywriter can pull a literary 9/11 at the last second, out of nowhere, for no apparent reason. It's not over till it's over, and sometimes not even then.
>>291136258>So what happened again? QRD? Without reading the full other thread entirely it looks like a yuri couple didn’t happen or something?Yuri couple didn't happen, author pulled a sudden it wasn't true love and even if it was it's needless for lara now, also poor Mari.Lara became selfish bitch who toyed with Luca and dumped him for bigger dick light excuse.Mari wasn't even acknowledged by Lara afetr that heartful confession scene like it never happened.Lara became human bitch, the end.
>>291136258No, it did. The red-haired girl saves the black-haired one (and incidentally her species) with the power of her love for her. Then in the last five minutes comes a 6-month time jump where she moves to another city for reasons that they didn't bother to state to the audience or the characters, and they end up separated.
>>291136387
>>291136304I stopped believing the ending would shit the bed around episode 10. I shouldn't have. Good thing the leak from the early screening softened the blow or I would've gone into the last episode expecting a kiss and a competent ending.
>>291136422Even japs are confused by the phrasing.
>>291136452even COPE COPE COPE
>Mari sitting at home>cellphone gets notification >Mari gets excited cause its from Lara>message reads "Hey I'm drunk at the bar can you come pick me up">while Mari looks at message confused phone lights up again >Lara sent a second text saying "whoops meant to send that to my bf sorry" >Mari puts phone down and sits in her pitch black room in silence a smile on her face
>>291136568I'm a huge yurifag but when a show fails like this these het shitposts always make my day
>>291136568kino
How will the FFM novelist fix the ending of Lara in the adaptation?
>>291135511What information pertains?The thought that life could be betterIs woven indeliblyInto our hearts and our brainshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YUEziX25DQ
>>291136639The who and the what?
>>291136649The novel adaptation
>>291135893
>>291136649Some boring LN writer who created a FFM story where a girl who initially hates men as cher characteristic starts having feelings for male MC.So original and cheapest written shit.But seeing the retarded ending of Lara, quite fitting for this work.If some retarded yurifags gonna buy Citrus mangaka work of this they are at fault why you guys are always shat on.
>>291136568Fuck that, Mari deserves better than to pine for the fish slut.
>>291136666to what pvrpose...did they really think their new iteration of lilo an- sorry the little mermaid is something groundbreaking?
>>291136733It tough and raw!
>>291135511>So, what's the moral of this story?Don't read/watch "yuri" if there isn't a gay kiss in the first chapter/episode.
>>291136698>So original and cheapest written shit.Only because you are a yurifag. I actually like misandrist/feminist women warming up and having sex with men.
Hey yurifags! Here some cheap pretimeskip Mari x Lara pic, pls buy BDs and support us with your money, even if you hated the ending which completely shat on you.They really have no shame to pull this shit off.
>>291136733Most anime originals get lns/manga.
>dyke hater doing the novel>dyke lover doing the mangaoh boy
>>291136754It's not this pic, is it? Or is that something different?
>>291136754More than enough people are happy with the show many are visuafag and designfag. Some are openingfag endingfag
>>291136754I liked
>>291136568Fun shitpost but also depressingly plausible, after this ending I can't see Lara going for anything but guys even if it's just a fling since Mari being her true love got kicked to the curb and explicit romance between girls was never acknowledged as a thing that exists. Nice "not typical yuri", assholes.
>>291136808Ffm alt ending for the novel, yuri ending in the manga. Kino.
>>291136809No, that's a bonus from the novel.
>>291136857Ah got it.
I recently watched an old slavic adaptation of the little mermaid which really made me feel some major feels like I was a youngbshonen again.Will goodbye Lara make me feel some major feels, or is it toned down in terms if emotional content?
>>291136842>implying Lara is faithful enough to stay with any love interest Good joke.
>>291136674Fuck did this cunt bring my piss to a boil.
>>291135511I think it was ultimately about living for yourself rather than kowtowing to the expectations of others, with the central message being that all love is ultimately downwind of loving yourself.
I think outside of the narrative mess the finale was, the complete tone shift was offputting too. Maybe people would’ve been more accepting of a bitter shitty ending if the rest of the series wasn’t mostly lighthearted, uplifting, and relatively heartwarming minus the most intense portions of the climax
>>291136903>I recently watched an old slavic adaptation of the little mermaid which really made me feel some major feels like I was a youngbshonen again.The 1976 movie? Don't bother with Lara.
>>291135602I still haven't watched this, is it similar to the original story by Hans Christian Andersen, or is it more like a generic anime?I am looking to have my heartstrings tugged
>>291135511Why westoids do always blame external factors first?It's always the director, the writer, the production team, the studio.But they themselves are never the problem.
I hope there's doujin where Lara has to whore herself out on a Yakuza joint because otherwise they will report her to the authorities due to having no papers.
>>291136903Watch Kaguya hime instead, both the recent one and the Takahata movie
GOODBYE LARAIT'S BEEN NICEHOPE YOU FIND YOURPARADISETRIED TO SEE YOURPOINT OF VIEWHOPE YOUR DREAMS WILLALL COME TRUEGOODBYE MARIGOODBYE GRACEWILL WE EVERMEET AGAINFEEL NO SORROWFEEL NO SHAMECOME TOMORROWFEEL NO PAIN
>>291136674>>291136952>Virgin Soul turns 10 years next yearDamn...
>>291136754I'm not reading that
>>291137044>It's always the directorWell nobody forced Koide to make a story which would bait with Mari x Lara happening as true love just to destroy that in very last few minutes of said story completely with retarded seperatio nending and also adding a very short mention that Lara dated Luca from time to time for no real reason cause nothing of how he justified it in his post makes sense for the story he presented in 11 episodes and 2/3 of ep12.
...but why bring yuribait to a classic hetero story to begin with?What was the logic there?
Hmm why they can't add a picture of showing us happy Mari and Lara post timeskp happy together during their meet up?
>>291135511I don't know, but now I know that most, if not all yurifags are pathological liars just from previous Lara threads alone.Not going to listen to their dishonesty and delusions anymore
>>291136754>shiori taniWho wants to bet it's going to reference Luca somewhere.
>>291136698>story where a girl who initially hates men as cher characteristic starts having feelings for male MCSounds kino, extra kino if the guy hates women at the start
>>291137008Yes, the Soviet era one from 1976. Does Lara take the original story and modernise it in a Japanese anime setting? I still haven't been spoiled on Sayonara Lara, but was very moved by the 1976 Rusalochka film and how [Spoiler]The prince realised that his true love, The girl who saved him from drowning, was right beside him all along and he failed to recognise her and love her until she turned to sea foam, but it was too late by then because he was marrying another woman who he mistook for his saviour and thus had to suffer for the rest of his life for making the wrong choice. A bittersweet melancholic ending/twist[/Spoiler]. I was just a bit curious about sayonara lara since It seems to be popular in japan and the west
>>291137074look at what they did to my FAVAROOOOOOOOOOOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phUQ8F-ktic
>>291137144You have that in pretty much every harem story bro, one girl wants to protect her female cf she is close with and hates MC but of course falls for him cause the plot demands it without any sense behind it.So yeah lowest denominator shit.
>>291137134
>>291137123Maybe it it had been Lara + a male lead people wouldn't give this shit the time of day. Maybe.
>>291137163Anon, watch >>291137055
>>291137191I said picture showing them meeting in a cafe or hugging aftwr reuinion kind in-story we didn't see yet, than this cheap shot.
>>291137191OOC as fuck according the anime btw
>>291137172>one girl wants to protect her female cf she is close with and hates MC but of course falls for him cause the plot demands it without any sense behind it.But what if it did have sense behind it? Would you be ok with a misandrist women getting tamed by cock if it was written well?
it's sad im watching princess memeguya after all the yapping in the past threads... and it hurtsFUCK YOU DIRECTOR
>>291137191This isn’t the timeskip Lara I see in the anime. Fake af
>>291137202Thanks, I will check it out.Also, sorry for messing up the spoiler, I am slightly buzzed.
>>291137197>Maybe it it had been Lara + a male lead people wouldn't give this shit the time of day. Maybe.Sadly knowing Koide if this had male Mari version it would end in happy ending where they become proper couple through true love.Still I can't phatom how you can create whole project just to shit on a yuri audience, of course before baiting them up completely with how things were going in the story.It's Vlad Love again.
>>291137227Honestly I wouldn't care, not my fetish, so I would never follow or check such work.
>>291137220This is the best you'll get for now
>>291137259Start with the Isao Takahata movie since that's a faithful adaptation of the fairytale minus a few liberties. Then Cosmic Princess Kaguya since that's the modern reinterpretation/counterpoint.
>>291137265Luca was right there and Lara still dropped him like a bad habit. Stop trying to make sense of it, because there’s none.
>>291137163I think you're better off just watching other soviet movies about love. Personally i enjoyed An Ordinary Miracle, has some interesting parallels with Princess Tutu.
>>291137292Ok but then don't shit on it or would you like people to shit on your fetish? Also is it a fetish if I genuinely find such scenario extremely cute? Having a misandrist realize that not all men are bad is cuteness overload imo.
>>291135511Fish are friends, not lovers
>>291137347>Princess Tutu.Another fantastic anime and genuinely a good rec for that anon. >>291137317I was about to give the exact same reply
>>291137172>You have that in pretty much every harem story broBut i'm not talking about harem
>>291137242I actually just finished it myself. It was really sweet, I loved how they pushed for the good ending despite everything.
>the moral of the original story is that through self sacrifice and purity the mermaid gains an eternal human soul>the moral of Lara is that being a human turns you into a soulless femoid golem
>>291137451Both are products of their times. Every year that passes us by we stray further from the light.
>>291137437Watch the epilogue music video too if you haven't: https://youtu.be/356MRZ6P5h0
holy shit already NTR setup FUCKING MEGA KINO
>>291137474So get a fishing rod, now who wants to be the light bait?
>>291137197Lies
>>291137197People are fucking starved for a high quality anime original hetero romance. When was the last time we got something good? Tsuki ga Kirei?
>>291137265fathom
>>291137347>>291137317Oh lovely, I have been blessed with good recommendations.Thank you anons, I will satisfy my thirst for romantic stories with bittersweet endings once I am a little more oriented in a few minutes.
I haven't checked /a/ in ages but I just watched the last episode and am left confounded by the epilogue... I'm not a yurifag but that ending was very disappointing for such a fantastic show
>>291137574>When was the last time we got something good?Nakitai Watashi wa Neko wo Kaburu
>>291135511Mari was too good for Lara.Lara is hust some dumb, straight girl who doesnt truly know what type of man she truly wants. Fitting for her age, but still very annoying.Mari deserves a good, confident, lesbian girlfriend who will stay by her side forever without any wishy-washy business about needing to find herself first. They were never a good match. Ending was meh, Lara was a terrible friend to Mari until the very end.
>>291137123Kaguya did that and it became extremely popular
>>291137632We've had like a dozen threads about it, feel free to comb through them.
>>291137163The soviet little mermaid was a real life anime girl. Her looks and her mannierism look taken from anime. It was almost uncanny. But yeah, great movie
>>291137574What!? I was thinking of checking out Sayonara Lara, but your telling be it's YURIBAIT, or even yuri!?I can't believe Chained Soldier Season 2 is the only hetero romance of this season
>>291137055The Takahata movie is art. Kaguya-hime is typical otaku slop and it's not yuri
>>291137656>Mari deserves a good, confident, lesbian girlfriend who will stay by her side forever Found the perfect girlfriend for Mari
>>291137664I was just kinda hoping I missed something that I could maybe find here, turns out the ending is just that disappointing. This reminds me of the oreimo ending.
>>291137108The committee has full creative control. Directors are glorified secretaries these days
>>291137690>The Takahata movie is artI agree, it's fantastic and it made me cry.>Kaguya-hime is typical otaku slop I disagree, I greatly enjoyed the characterization and had a fun time watching it. Idk what's the problem with being "otaku" if you have good character writing?
>THANKS FOR KILLING YOURSELF AND GIVING ME YOUR LIGHT>SEE YOU IN 10 YEARS WHEN I COME BACK WITH MY FUTURE HUSBAND AND KIDS
>>291137108>nobody forced KoideMaybe someone did
>>291137632Welcome to the club of those who were left baffled by it, regardless of yuri status.
>>291137265Vlad Love was about shitting on romcoms but accidentally ended shitting on yuri too. Oshii is an old tired man after all
>>291137632So how did you find Sayolara? Did you check it randomly?
I didn't know there already was a 1975 anime movie
>>291137763>implying she won't leave her husband and come back with just the kids
>>291137815There is also ponyo and a series. It has been adapted multiple times.
>>291137769Grace should chose western Europe or Canada for her little experiment. Nips gonna nip
>>291137669Older movies from that era could just capture Beauty, feminine beauty in it's truest ethereal form, like it was nothing. It was usually international European movies. Rusalochka, Blue lagoon etc. Anime had a similar era of beauty that lasted from the 90s to early 2010s, but now it is gone.
>>291137769It was genuinely shaping up to be one of my favourite anime of all time. I'm kinda awestruck by how out of place the ending is for such a thematically coherent and well-told story.>>291137785I got recommended the PV on youtube before it started airing.
>>291137842?????????Lara was the problem, not Mari.
>>291137838Ponyo isn't based on The Little Mermaid. It's based on the Tale of the White Serpent, an old Chinese folktale. It was already adapted to anime in the movie Hakujaden and from that movie Miyazaki met his first waifu
Lara left because Mari was into boxing, can you imagine how extreme the domestic abuse would had gotten?
>>291137725You didn't miss anything because there was nothing to miss. They just didn't feel like giving anyone any explanation for how the characters got where they were after these 6 months. Feel free to make your own headcanon for it, because there's zero material that'll contradict it.
>>291137669Reminder that japs soviets are the only people who did a faithful Count Monte Cristo adaptation that didn't chicken out of Haydee ending and she was actually played by a 17 years old girl in the soviet version.
>>291137878I am pretty sure Hayato has said that it's partially based on it.
>>291137858Lara would watch dykes on TV in Canada or western Europe. And probably met somke dyke couples in real life. That would change her mindset
>>291137920But wouldn't she troon out or something or get killed by an immigrant(or just kill herself with the help of canadian suicide centers) ?
>>291137880The only abuse would have been emotional one from Mari
>>291137853>I'm kinda awestruck by how out of place the ending is for such a thematically coherent and well-told story.You're far from the only one. You know something went wrong with the way they told the ending when even a mangaka in Japan publicly speaks up against it, when they're usually so mild and polite about their disagreements.https://x.com/takano_wf/status/2102078697973141602
>pseud ANN reviewer loved it and called it better than Andersen's endinglmao, of course
>>291137982Shit I meant from Lara
>>291138027ANN reviewers have to be the most retarded creatures on the planet
>>291138027>better than Andersen's endingBLASPHEMY!!!
>>291137985That was a well put critique. Nice that xitter translations are actually coherent now.
>>291138027How many times did she talk about other fairytales instead of what actually happened in the episode, this time?
>>291138057Depends, really. Some write good reviews, but some seem to huff some unknown substance before writing theirs. It's a mixed bag.
I could deal with the rest if they didn't massacre Lara on top of it.The moral feels like one of those "give up your high reaching goals and settle for a conformist life you slave wage" endings that anime love to throw around.
>>291138027He's as soulless as the ending itself.
>>291137901>japs sovietsYou missed a comma there or what?
>>291138142Of course.
>>291138123People should stop seething about Sonny boy.
>>291137767shimmata za gaijin shitteru
>>291138123>The moral feels like one of those "give up your high reaching goals and settle for a conformist life you slave wage" endings that anime love to throw around.Oh boy do i hate that one.
>>291138123Wait, is that a bad pic for comparison or did even the shape of her eyes change?
>>291138123I like how her colors faded to signify her becoming fully human as if they made a show where this coloring distinction between her and the human characters actually existed, except it doesn't and they were just as vibrant as her. Makes it feel even more like she lost her joy for no reason.
This shit deserves to be forgotten.Yes I know you wanted it to be good, but it wasn't so get over it already.
>>291138230>she lost her joy for no reason.>tfw you finish college and now you have to workI feel the same ngl.
>>291137769>Grace acting like she’s not the villain of the story
What is up with the influx of yuri themes in Japanese media?Apart from Sayonara Lara, even that VN Manosaba had yuri themes.
>>291138277You're just seeing things.
>>291138123>The moral feels like one of those "give up your high reaching goals and settle for a conformist life you slave wage" endings that anime love to throw around.Do nips actually accept these morals (propoganda) being shoved in their faces, what happened to their samurai spirit?
>>291137632>>291137664>We've had like a dozen threads about itValid crashout. On old /a/, the Sayonara Lara ending would've caused a board-wide meltdown.
>>291137815I owned that tape (dubbed) when I was little. The transformation scene taught me how to floor-hump and gave me some lifelong fetishes.
>>291138177I unironically didn't have an issue with SB because I thought the ending wasn't surprising and kind of fit the rest of the series regardless of the crazy shit. But Lara changed the tone so drastically that I can't parse it. I rarely have an issue with bittersweet endings if the show itself is moody or crazy, but this here was such an upbeat, optimistic piece that I cannot fathom why they choose to fuck with all of that and suck it dry of all magic it had. Compare the boxing match episode with this turd at the end. How is it even written by the same person?
>>291138308>stop noticing goy
>>291138341>what happened to their samurai spirit?Well and alive in the isekai genre where they leave the wage slop behind and live a life of adventure.
>>291138230Yeah it's so dumb. As if Luca doesn't also have unrealistic anime hair, when is he gonna turn human too?
>>291138276>says "screw the rules" in her time>causes Rigmor's death>tells Lara "screw the rules">causes Lara's death and the kingdom's ruin>tells Lara and Mari "screw the rules">Lara screws the rules only to replace them with even worse rules that destroy their relationshipYou're on to something.
>>291138230>as if they made a show where this coloring distinction between her and the human characters actually existed, except it doesn't and they were just as vibrant as her.It’s only Luca and his bro desu. Everyone else is noticeably more tame compared to Lara and Lisa.
>>291138230I would have to go back and check (I don't wanna) but while everything was vibrant, were the other humans as saturated as Lara used to be? I agree though, I'm not a fan of the new muted colors, she looked much better before.
>>291138223Her eyes changed. Or at least the look of them. She usually had big open eyes with an optimistic, energetic look and the reflections were stronger. Basically a happy anime girl. Her eye color also changed and lost the saturation. Lara is a metaphor for growing up.
>>291135579FPBP
>>291138362>>291137008>>291137163So does Lara follow the traditional ending of the little mermaid or do an original anime ending?
>>291138470It's a sequel, for all intents and purposes. Except the prince is now a tomboyish Japanese girl.
>>291138410>>291138432Mari's school uniform is muted but other outfits like her boxing gear is as saturated as Lara.
>>291138277"Influx"?There's dozens of yuri-thened Japanese media that came out in the year between Manosaba and Sayolara, but also thousands in the decades before Manosaba. The pace hasn't really changed notably.
>>291138465Stop posting frames... such fucking fantastic looking anime... wasted...
>>291138123There's something very curious and uncanny going on here. New Lara looking almost identical to old Lara having something "off" about her.Somehow familiar but simultaneously completely foreign, almost intimidating or even threatening. "I don't recognize this person I thought I knew" kind of deal.It's like there's like a screen of fantasy overlaid over the old Lara that allowed her to attain the status of a treasure but that screen was removed and treasure we were looking at ends up being nothing more than everyday garbage.
>>291138341The samurai spirit broke when their major cities were flattened and the godemperor announced that he was just a human and that they lost the war. Those types of endings are so common that I wonder if it's part of some national trauma, similar as to how Russians always write the most depressing sci-fi and polit stories.
Leo wasn't lying. His art is shit. Luca is somehow proud of THIS.
>>291138536New Lara is a skinwalker, the dagger's personality took over her body when it ate her and she now travels across Japan to entice and consume unsuspecting souls like classic mermaids. She's saving Mari for last.
Is this the KADO of yuri?
>>291138635Kado didn't have 11 nice episodes
Sayolara is still a better story (yuri) then Life is Strange. What could have bere...
>>291138465>growing up means fading awayHow optimistic.
>>291138362It reminds me a bit of the Teen Titans final episode, but worse.
>>291138608Show us your mustardpiss, anon, if you are so great
>>291138688Whole tt finale season was mediocre but I haven't watched western cartoons in decades so I might misremember
>>291138664I’m never going to be in a bad enough state of mind to think Life is Strange is above anything.
>>291138223
>>291138644It had better highs, though.
>>291138635>Mari and Lara's future child shows up and destroys the fish dagger and revives the mermaid kingdom Maybe it needed the KADO ending
>>291138470I would argue Lara's ending is conceptually the opposite of Andersen's story
KAGUYA BROSWE WONNED!!!
>>291138732It should have been Kate who ended up with Max, not CHLOE.If they replaced the French feminist writers with ANYONE else, we could have had absolute kino. It was a flop
>>291138536Basically it's like an anime character became real. In a bad way. It's not just the look, her adorable naivety, optimism, her genki attitude are gone. They're replaced by an introverted personality who mostly stares at her phone to sort her appointments out rather than to talk to friends. She lost her very enthusiasm. I highly doubt she still cares about cakes. To be honest I can only explain it by her sacrificing her very love and person to save Mari. This is why nothing that she loved matters anymore. She doesn't care about Mari, Mari's parents, Grace, school, patisserie, friendship, Luca or his finished painting, she doesn't even care about the city of them anymore. So since all of that is lost she sets off to find a "new light" elsewhere, which might or might not ever happen. But even if that's true it would only explain the ending, not really making it better. Because I see no point in fucking up such a funny, light-hearted anime with such a bleak ending. There wasn't even a build-up to that.
>>291138688>>291138716At keast Teen Titans later got a finale movie more in line with the rest of the series.
>>291138751The mermaid gets the prince?
>>291138790Kaguya isn't yuri.
>>291138790>spends the whole performance getting horny for Yachiyo>receives a marriage proposal by Kaguya at the end and accepts itIroha knew how to have fun but also when to fold it and become a family woman.
>>291138536Lara had to give up being a mermaid to save Mari so I can buy her looking a sad as she’s lost a big part of her old identity.
>>291138874bro she literally accepted a marriage proposal
>>291138341The samurai spirit was always just propaganda. If you look at their history, up until the 20th century they were forgettable poorfags who always tried to imitate the superior civilisations and did it badly.
>>291138832Mermaid loses her soul
>>291138893>superior civilisationsThose superior civilizations have unfortunately fallen as well. I hate the modern world.
>first time director declares that he doesn't want to make a "typical anime"Is there a bigger red flag?
>>291138939silly anon only hugh manns have souls
They fucked up by not adding more scenes with Leo in it desu.
>>291137853I don’t have an issue with Lara leaving in of itself(it’s the title after all) but I think the ending leaves too much up for interpretation for its own good. Like I can think of reasons why Lara decided to leave but I think the audience is due a more clear explanation. Makes it an odd choice to have Lara not answer Mari. Though looking at the scene again it actually looks like Mari cuts her off before she can start.
>>291137837And then she’d leave those too.>Thanks for looking after my kids for me! I’m off to find the new light in Okinawa!
>>291138528I don't fucking get it.It was all there. They had an almost perfect anime. It was all building up to a fantastic ending, it had a great climax, it was never boring, every character was good in their own way, it was fun, it looked good. And then they decided that they want to destroy it for everybody involved and did this. Not only does it seem to contradict EVERYTHING happening before, it doesn't even make any fucking sense. The grief was born by the rejection of the prince dude. But Mari knew she was a mermaid from the start. They talked to each other. They grew close regardless. Why the fuck is there a need for murder then? If anything the one making things terrible for her was her shitty father. The very guy she fought for for so long. To find her love and revive that fucker. If anything it would have made sense to break with her family and live the life she enjoys rather than killing the person she loves the most. What a stupid conclusion.
>>291138886The director said it was a joke and it looks like a joke on-screen. That's how Japanese women talk
>>291135511>So, what's the moral of this story?the old boring "don't be a bigot" and "there's so much to see and love in the world"
So is this the new Wonder Egg Priority
>>291138790At least Lara was great before the shitty ending. Kaguya was mind-numbingly boring and then got a shitty ending too. I never cared about idol shit though.
>>291139041>the director was a coward during interviewsok chud
just a healthy het superfriendship here, nothing to look at
>>291138976I cry for all the wasted characters this show had. Lara, Mari, Leo, even Luca and the family. Everybody was so likeable and had a cool design. They deserved a better ending.
>>291138123I love her fish like appearance
>>291139056WEP had one good episode at most before going to shit, not 11.
>>291139078No aishiteiru, but we do get a marriage proposal.Lara could never.
>>291136959Huh. Self-love? You think so? Did Lara not like / accept herself till the end?
>subs please>Official subsSo it's not a mistranslation, the moment Lara got back from the island she and Luca dated on and off. I thought this was supposed to be yuri?
>>291139154>starts dating a boy halfway in>yuridouble digit IQ?
>>291139154It is a mistranslation. They dated for a bit after the confession we saw in episode 10, but then Lara broke up with him.
>>291139190Are you still doing this?
>>291139015female hands wrote this postno, just because daddy didn't love you doesn't mean that family doesn't matter
you have to wait for the recap movie with 10mins of new epilogue footage
>>291139062I trust more on the director than some random weeb
>>291139190Anon it's in the official sub.
>>291139238And those are never ever wrong right?
>>291139190https://www.reddit.com/r/GoodbyeLara/comments/1wnetv7/the_luca_scene_wasnt_a_translation_error_since/
If yurifags ultimately don't hate Luca then it means he was actually a good character
>>291139257Even the nips say Luca and Lara dated during those six months. It's over, yurifag
>>291139058Kaguya was fun unlike this pretentious dumpster fire
>>291139015Mari is just the surrogate target for her old hatred. Emotions don't have to be rational. As far as constructed downer twists in the finale go, this is pretty minor. Kill Mari, revive her by sacrificing her legs and never returning to land. Mari picks up diving, Lara shows her around a palace filled with seething fish by mouth to mouthing her oxygen and /a/ would call this 11/10, anime of the decade.Any resolution is fine as long as you don't shit on your core narrative afterwards.
>>291139154It's actually a mistranslation. Even the Eng Dub shows the correct version of that dialogue. https://files.catbox.moe/h1z4qg.mp4
Becoming human means turning away from the light of true love.Lara eventually rejected true love because it got tainted and demanded a sacrifice (Mari) that Lara wasn't willing to provide, because she wanted Mari to exist in that world. After rejecting the ideal of true love Lara lost her mermaid nature and became human and is now not capable of feeling true love anymore, so she stopped caring.
>>291139266Luca is a likable character. That's why many women fell in love with him and want him to win da larabowl.
>>291139297>Luca is a likable characterI disagree. I found him really annoying
>>291139212I got along well with my father. Not sure why Americans always project that shit onto other people, it's not common to have issues with a father here. But for Lara it would make more sense to leave a family who never cared about what she wanted if the only alternative is to murder the person she likes the most. So far the family only leeched off of her power. Aside from Lisa never did jackshit besides sleeping and complaining. If they depend so much on her maybe they should have tried to help her instead of telling her to shut up everytime she wanted to talk about her issues or explain her attachment to humans.
>>291139312You're a yurifag, you don't count
>>291139238So was pic related>>291139269They're not sure themselves, but I'll go with whatever makes actual sense here. No one is saying they didn't date, but dating the same person on and off constantly over a span of a few months is not something that anyone does.
>>291139377Maybe she really wanted that dick?
>>291138822She's not energetic anymore, but she's actually content. Before she was running around and scrambling to find true love, chasing after Mari, getting chased by Mari. It's maybe a bit too vague and ominous, but understanding the ending is understanding why Lara changed.
>>291139377>A weeb claim to speak better Japanese than Japanese peopleJust another day in the internet
>>291139377That retarded sub made me start watching Necronomico, and I'm glad I did, what a wild ride that show was.
>>291139406>>291138822Lara and Mari had a mother-daughter relation. Now Lara is an adult and she can make her own life. Lara leaving to another town is like a daughter going to college. I think that's what the staff intended
>>291139269That's hilarious Lucasister cope, nothing else. Yes, grammatically it could also mean that and yes it is weird phrasing, but come on. Use your brain. And when has Luca ever not been weird.
>>291139286Jesus fucking christ. Dubfags listen to this?
>>291139421why is kewl tune rotary kissing a disgaea character?
>>291139406I unironically prefer the time when I was still running around searching for crazy shit to do and was motivated over my adulthood with 30+ that just made me content and indifferent and therefore incapable of doing anything important because nothing feels like it matters anymore. Being and idealist and never achieving your ultimate goal is still better than not even caring about trying.
>>291139467Lara's farewell to Luca was more emotional than her farewell to Mari
It looks like Lara's belt buckle is the trident.
>>291139480Because everyone involved is a raging lesbian.
>>291139543
>>291139292
>>291138536She looks exactly like how Luca imagines her when he says he can’t fully see all of her. Not sure what that might mean.
>>291139581Those mermaids sure act high and mighty for a species constantly on the verge of extinction.
>>291139362Well he didn't add anything positive to the story as full ending goes than being Lara's stepping stone for independience from her feelings for the prince cause he looked the same reasoning.Still he got it better than what director did with Mari after timeskip.
>>291139279Even that would’ve been a somewhat cool subversion of the OGs ending, by having Mari go the distance to be with Lara after Lara repeatedly went the distance for love that never bore fruit
>>291136157Watch the anime it's an 8.8/10, and if you really want more of the songs, watch the movie which is only a 6/10 without factoring in score boosts from the soundtrack.
>>291139688Meant for >>291139576
>>291139571Useless piece of junk ring that was thoroughly irrelevant.
>>291139359Yes Lara’s family is pretty terrible, none of them cared for what Lara wanted and only wanted to preserve themselves or the last remnants of their dying race. It would be a pretty exaggerated but effective story of learning to turn away from a family that doesn’t accept you or enforces their values on you. The ending almost does this but then the epilogue happenedalso Lisa could’ve also actually had a role in the second half of the story where she doesn’t necessarily accept humans, but comes to accept that Lara is in love with them, and turns against her family to support Lara.
So out of this and CPK what do you think is yuri of the year?
>>291139514Sorry, Koide says no hopeful messages in our dark and gritty and realistic retelling of this anime.
>>291139757>>>/u/
>>291139757According to japanese own yuri rankinga CPK is yuri related, Lara show isn't.I'm betting on Kaiten being the biggest yuri movie of the year about Homura being benched by her hatsukoi.
>>291139688You've just made an enemy for life
>>291139757Kamiina Botan.
>>291139461Literally none of this is actually in the show, anon.
>>291139811>According to japanese own yuri rankinga CPK is yuri related, Lara show isn't.Now that's just retarded. Bad ending or not, Lara is very clearly yuri. It's not even ambiguous; Lara literally says so.With that being said, I'd put Kaguya over Lara, although not as an insult to Lara, Kaguya is just amazing.
>>291138955He was the goat director fuck the nips the chainsaw vs bat devil fight was so fucking good and also the art style and direction ahhh
>>291139755Speaking of which why was Lisa still chilling on land in the epilogue? If Lara is continuing to provide the light for the mermaids does she need to be walking around still?
>>291139908To add, I'd say that this one moment almost puts Lara above Kaguya on the yuri scale, because Lara calls Mari "ai suru hito", ai being a word used for romantic love specifically (as opposed to suki, which is more similar to "like", that Kaguya uses).
Kaguya is yuri. Lara is not.
>>291139150She had expectations put on her about being a provider (of light) for her kingdom, and feels guilty about the consequences of failing those expectations. But if only she can do that for her people, then she wants to do it in her own way, while also following her own path.I think this is also why Mari doesn't protest Lara leaving so suddenly. Mari has her own path she's determined to follow, so she doesn't want to get in the way of Lara's.
>>291139976I’m not sure if it’s some sort of artistic choice or not but I still think it’s weird that they could only ever refer to Lara and Mari’s love through super indirect phrasing like that
>>291139976>Director never said it Yuri >Believe some liberalfag translation>Japanese doesn't even rank it as Yuri>Gives you a lesson why ai has to be romantic and cant be platonic>"Ai is for romantic love specifically" Does anyone even feel bad for these people?
>>291140004The cool thing about having someone you love is that you can pursue your separate paths and dreams and support each other emotionally and physically though. Self-sacrifice is usually the thing the romantic interest does halfway through the story before realizing the really noble thing to do is share your life with the person you care about
what else did annoy you other than Lara kicking Mari in the balls?- no gainax-like GRIT YOUR TEETH slowmo charge up boxingpunch from Mari wether against Fishe of Doom / MonsterGrace / Villain out of nowhere- no onscreen revival of Rowan and his people despite that being like, I dunno, the whole main quest (what true love was just a requirement for)- no satisfying onscreen moment of Lisa not-hating humans, through Lara and potionmakerguy- no deus ex machina from The Ring™ (Lisa gives Mari the ring, the ring protects Mari, the ring helps Lara revive Mari)- no ending narrative from Grace (one final mirror?), where she's content with the outcome and is the one to say "Sayonara Lala" *roll credits*- no final daughter dad moment between Lala and Rowan "I will never trust humans, but I can feel your light and your love for them. Maybe one day, I'll understand." *leaves with his family to notAtlantis*
>>291139461Reminds of what Guelyumes were saying about Miroine and Suletta.
>>291140027Lesbianism is shamefur dispray
>>291135511
>>291140004Isn't this a kind of compromise? Remember that "live for love, not for laws" thing?If this is true then Lara doesn't actually faithfully follow her desires to the end, she is still bound by laws that keep her restricted.So it's more like "live for love, not for laws but only up to a certain reasonable limit".
>>291140115>what else did annoy you other than Lara kicking Mari in the balls?Perfect ending for lara cting lik a selfish bitch i nthe epilogue towards Mari?Mari should punch her in the face when she turned around in the door of the train.Then drag her back.
>>291140073Who are you talking to?"Ai" is used for true love throughout the show (本当の愛), which is explicitly romantic love between a prince and a princess. And in the final episode, Lara confirms that Mari is her true beloved, Mari's light being taken by Lara, just as was prophesied.There's nothing to interpret here; it's all in plain text. You could do mental gymnastics like "oh, but this specific case of true love is not romantic!", but there's zero reason to think that.
>>291140214Google confucianism. That explain a lot about anime
>>291140115Most of these are silly but I’ll answer earnestly:- Mari not using boxing in some way in the climax does feel a little unsatisfying - honestly the “goodbye” should’ve been Lara saying goodbye to the shitty family that just wanted her to kill her loved one so they could get a couple more years of inbreeding in- Lisa was so terribly utilized in the second half, anon already mentioned she should’ve had an arc of accepting humans or at least Mari/Lara’s love- ring doesn’t need to be deus ex but I would’ve at least liked a solid explanation for its function- Grace is dead brah episode 11 was a perfect send off for her- see point #2 I really don’t give a shit about Rowan if anyone should’ve died it should’ve been him
Fucking retards move the fuck on. No new thought in these threads, just the same repetitive bullshit. I hope it's the last one.
>>291140214>So it's more like "live for love, not for laws but only up to a certain reasonable limit".And that limit is set at two girls being in love romantically director decided to never cross.Sad.
>>291140263>Lucafag seething
>>291140235>Lara confirms that Mari is her true beloved>I don't care if i never find true love>i just want to be in a world with youhmmmm
>>291140235Girls can’t love girls. That’s the moral of the story
>>291139976Lara is more yuri than Kaguya by most definitions except nonsensical ones that would also deny yuri in gwitch, yeah. Unfortunately Kaguya also happens to be a good movie and to most people that matters more than miniscule differences in the yuri definition wars.
>>291140279I am larashit hater and I am tired of your shit.
>>291140280Anon, read that screenshot again. Really carefully.
>>291140263Yes because you’re adding to the discussion by flinging the melted chunks of your heroin-riddled brain into the thread yes
>>291136754I wonder what happened to the anon who claimed not to care whether the show was going full yuri and that he already preordered the BD by episode 9 or 10. I bet he ended up cancelling.
>>291140214I don't think the anime ever offered an alternative solution to the merpeople, so they pretty much rely on her light. I don't think it's really a compromise, she doesn't want to abandon her family, she just doesn't want to be controlled by them.
>>291140235More than enough reason to think that because she went to date Luca for six months after this. Holy retard even grade schooler won't fall for this trick true love has to be romance because it worked once
>>291139755Did they also kill Kota? Because if they did it makes the ending even worse
>>291140302>Lara is more yuri than KaguyaLara willingly dates a guy.Never dates a girl.In the timeskip still comes back to date a guy for lols.She seperates with a girl at the end to look for more light/excitement in the city.Yuri my ass.
Fucking geniuses stay the fuck here. Countless new thoughts in these threads, lots of varied qualityposts. I hope it's not the last one.
>>291140308I didn't take any screenshots with subs, sorry.
>>291140326Its being sold in 2 Blurays. So if hes talking about buying the 2nd, he already has the first so he already wasted his money. Unless buying the 2nd half a series is something people do that i dont know about
>>291139056WEP was an actual trainwreck, this was a good show that decide to kneecap itself at the very end.
Okay, here's my non-shit post opinion on the ending. In a real relationship it kinda makes sense for Lara to leave. Do you honestly think you're not doing a disservice to the one you love by just sponging off them all your life? What if she left to learn more about the world, to earn a living and make a career so that she's worthy of her true love? Yes her sister is fucking rich but I don't think Lara wanted to depend on Lisa either.
>>291140347Presumably still alive if Lisa is and she had enough potion to still be walking 6 months later, but certainly hilarious that he confesses his love and we see no sign of him after that for our ‘themes and such’ ending
>>291140310There is literally nothing to be added to the discussion, that's my point.
>>291140097Good point, and I don't have a satisfactory rebuttal. I also don't think she needed to leave (at least not in the way she did), but unless the writer/director fill in the gaps, I can only guess as to the reason.
>>291140345>because she went to date LucaShe dated him for some undisclosed amount of time due to an existing proposal and - here's an important part - broke up with him. He was what she thought was "her prince" before realizing that it was Mari. The fact that they broke up proves my (extremely obvious, as is) point.
>>291139757Kamiina Botan because it's actually yuri
>>291139757>>>/a/
>live for love, not for lawsAnother thing that just boggles my mind. What love is she living for, and what laws is she ignoring? It looks like the complete opposite happened.Episode 11 was still on track what changed during production to reject everything the show was about at the last minute? Did Koide's gf really dump him?
>>291140422Umm watch the show again she dated him after realizing it was Mari
>>291140391>In a real relationship it kinda makes sense for Lara to leave. Do you honestly think you're not doing a disservice to the one you love by just sponging off them all your life? What if she left to learn more about the world, to earn a living and make a career so that she's worthy of her true love? Yes her sister is fucking rich but I don't think Lara wanted to depend on Lisa either.Problem Mr Dumbo is that we will never see or know about that possible future.But hey author had to show us that Lara dated Luca during timskip and shed a tear after dumping him, she never did anything like that for abandoning Mari, her true love the only reason she wanted to stay in this surface world for.Author could solve this b yatcyally show us some inner conflict going in Lara, but there's zero of any feelings here between the two, Mari too just accepts it like that.And if yo ugonna compare that to how much feelings played role it is laughable how much director decided to change things after timeskip to shit on Mari x Lara ending.
>>291140263>move the fuck onwe're not like Lala for better or worse :(
>>291140456>>live for love, not for lawsPost the script in nip
>>291140439Kamiina Botan doesn't actually show girls kissing so it's not yuri either
>>291140477How I leave someone after finding out they weren't my true love
If Lara chose to do something drastic like going into the mountains to become some flavor of ascetic, I'd buy it.But what is so fundamentally different about wherever it is she's going vs. Otsu? No acquaintances? She'll inevitably build relationships and so on and so forth in this new place. Then what - she'll keep moving on?I suppose I'd also buy this sort of 'drifter' lifestyle.
>>291139757The last yuri I liked was the moody one with the disguised water monster girl and suicidal MC but I am not sure if it aired 2026 or 2025 anymore.
>>291140391As anon already said, Lara didn’t need to move away to do that, love is not so fragile that you should avoid being with them because you’re not good enough. In fact she was already finding ways to return the gratitude she was receiving from the Otsu’s through working and whatnot
>>291140494Yes you are, most of you have already moved one.
>>291140502
>>291140263When Saburouta releases the manga version, she's going to fix everything. We just need to hold out until then.
>>291140477>you suddenly want to be togetherThis was in episode 9, she proposed to him, right here.>and then suddenly want to break upThis was after episode 12.
>>291140545Manga adaptions of original anime are mostly mediocre and and after four chapters
>>291140329But doesn't that muddle the message? Lara wants to both live on land with Mari (supposedly) and simultaneously be a good daughter/princess and save her people.I can imagine if the anime was a little harder it would have interrogated this issue more. What does Lara truly want? Does she want to pursue her love, whatever it may be? Is she willing to pay the price for it and transgress laws and prohibitions?
>>291140545>When Saburouta releases the manga version, she's going to fix everything. We just need to hold out until then.Mari x Lara is now romantic from start and Mari is tsun about her, Luca is gay for Yoshiya and never starts dating Lara. That girl who looked for bf is now looking for gf.Everything is fixed.In comparison novel gonna make Mari fall for Luca too and compete with Lara for him.
>>291140545no one's gonna buy that shit after the anime ending alienated everyone. It will get cancelled
>>291140370Yes, and Miorine was engaged to guys and and they time skipped the wedding and therefore gwitch isn't yuri, we know.In reasonable yuri definitions explicitly romantically loving a girl means it's yuri, not how little contact she had with men.
>>291140597>Sayonara Lara actually goes the Evangelion route and starts spawning tons of AU sequelsThat would be hilarious.
>>291140545Mein true Love...
>>291140554We've gone over this already go back to xitter and block people it's miserable to cope here
>>2911406011-2 volumes max.There's zer ohype for this anymore.
>>291140628You've already been told that your interpretation makes no sense, and now you even know exactly why it makes no sense.
>>291140625More like cheap version of Utena.Utena movie was gay, Utena TV was bi, Utena manga was straight based.
>>291140666Retards are gaslighting on mistranslation cope this is miserable
>>291140577This is kinda why I’m a supporter of her saying ‘goodbye’ to her family. I think the Grace episode could’ve done more to show that the way of the mermaids is obsolete and restricting especially towards the special princesses who have some sacred duty to provide light to the kingdom. Lara doesn’t want that, and I think having the bittersweet choice be forgoing the survival of her family to pursue her true love on land would be much nicer.
>>291140499愛 and 掟 if I remember correctly. Not much ambiguity there.
>>291140597I think Luca should still be the fakeout that Lara thinks she needs to love but have it be more explicit he don’t like her like that and has the hots for Yoshiya instead yea
>>291140391Maybe if the timeskip was 2 years it might have been a little better. Wait till they're both 18.
So why did the writers shit on both yurifags and hetfags? What does this even achieve?
>>291140577>But doesn't that muddle the message?I don't think it does, but I understand your point. The ending was purposefully vague and it didn't offer enough definitive explanations about how her family would cope if she wasn't there to support them.
>>291140748>So why did the writers shit on both yurifags and hetfags? What does this even achieve?It makes Koide work unique, special and amazing in his own mind.
>>291140748Who did the writers not shit on? I don't know many enjoyers of depressed salaryman endings.
>>291140638That's what usually happens. Even Kill la Kill's manga ended after four chapters or so. Popular manga will attract a big anime audience but the same isn't true the other way around. And Lara probably alienated everybody who was into it before.
>>291140790High IQ people who love to write essays to explain why the something is actually good, perhaps?
>>291140499掟ではなく、愛のために生きる
>evil witch says to disregard the law and pursue love>virtuous protagonist defies the witch by respecting the law and giving up on love>people somehow don't think this is kino
What would be the better outcome?1) Koide coming out and saying Mari and Lara loved each other romantically, but Lara left for ‘reasons’ and they’ll never be together2) Koide coming out and saying the show was never yuri, they love each other platonically at most3) Koide laughing at any questions asked about the ending, simply saying ‘you wouldn’t get it’
>>291140519for me? its watanarePOLY YURI FTW!!!
>>291140803I do wonder how did Gurren lagan get a full on like 10+ volumes manga while series like darker than black and cowboy bebop got short shoujo adaptations(dtb did get a sequel after)
>>291140456This is my central issue with the series. I would have accepted it if it was just another indecisive end. But it seemingly contradicts everything the show was building up to. It's literally like the narrative of Kado that did some sudden 180° turn in episode 9 or whatever it was.
>>291140836>protagonist realizes the boxing tomboy has been compromised from all the years living with the evil witch and drops her like a hot potato
>>291140397Well this is exactly what Koide wanted, people arguing in endless circles about the ending as some proof of its deepness and interpretative high art nature
>>291140843Nothing of what Koide will say about this ending in the future will be a better outcome, he already showed us what he wanted, nothing else he gonna say matters. Plus he will never admitt to his own mistakes.
>>291140843Number 3 and Koide later gets raped in jail.
its unhealthy to live vicariously through anime girls
>>291140545the saburouta counterattack will get rid of the allegations, and will pull the yuri victory out of the clutches of the dastardly hets
>>291140901So you are ok with being his puppets? All this talk about "it will be forgotten in 1 day" and here you are playing his game
>>291140929Can't wait when she draws Lucalara love hotel dates
>>291140843I guarantee that in any future interview he gives, the answer will be>we wantedu za audiensu to cum to zairu own conrcrusion wwwwwww
>>291140704lara was like 'lets kill all my family because I have to chase this juicy boxer slit LOL'very independant!!
>>291140962It's not Manio drawing it.
>>291140929I don't count on it, if I was Saburouta I would not pick it up knowing how it ends.But who knows maybe Saburouta is tired of being a yuri artist and will now do a diferent story like Yagakimi mangaka.
>>2911408433 or something similar like "true love is a pink washing machine" would be the only outcome that would make me respect Koide.Creator interviews are and should be nothingburgers in regards to the plot. "Look at all the things I didn't write but totes are there because I say so" is just as cringe as interpretation ringing the plot, and neither changes a single thing about the final work.
>>291140790As someone who is anti-love, me
>>291140981unironically yes like what does Lara get from her family other than a miserable life in service of keeping them alive? The finale proved that absolutely none of them give a shit about her
>>291141023fuck yeah bro, fuck the family and FUCK the one I left my family to die for LMAOI meanFUCK EVERYONEEXCEPT ME!here I go on the cock carousel... the """"LIGHT"""" LMAOOOOOOOOOO
>>291141054“Honey I wasn’t cheating I was just pursuing the light!”
>>291140981Would you marry a boring fat dude (assuming you're not gay and boring) if it paid for the sparkling palace of your family that calls you names or would you rather marry a hot wife and enjoy your life in a city of your choice, enjoy the support of her family on top of that and the only drawback being that your original family would lie on their couches and snore for the rest of their life? If their race is so superior as they claim they should be able to survive without the help of the only daughter who has the balls to leave the house and get things done. Even rats can live on their own and these fuckers need to leech off of Lara to exist.
>>291140097It's clear that the creator doesn't believe people of the same sex can be in a healthy, mutually nurturing romantic relationship where they can grow better together while complementing each other and compromising like a couple. >>291129730
>>291141177Then she would have stayed with Luca. This didn't happen either.And the show spent 11 episodes to show that Mari was the one for her.
>>291140619Miorine was never into guys unlike LaraAnd the writers went out of their way to tell you Lara's true love for Mari was different from the other ones that were actually romantic
>>291141163Cute boxing tomboy who’d do anything for you? or genocidal father who wants you to kill your lover to advance his race war? Turns out Lara chose neither, who knew that was a choice!
>>291141163>marry a hot wife and enjoy your life in a city of your choice, enjoy the support of her family but this didnt actually happen, she left for *REASONS*
>>2911408434) retconning the universe by going production issues delayed ep 13 and it will fix everything (here I'll help them: Grace is in Lala's womanmoment body and Lala's soul is in Mari)
>>291141177Always get pissed with these creators somehow missing the Utena ending as being a hopefully ending with Anthy leaving for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of going to find Utena so they can be together forever
>>291141255I was about to type this, not the retconning part but him complaining about production issues.
Any Grace x Mari fanfiction yet? Wholesome age gap yuri where she comforts Mari after Lara abandons her?
Luca x Mari is the true endgame
>>291135511Don't watch anime originals.
>>291141349The last 3 original anime I watched before Lara has better endings. Skill issue of the director
>>291141217So you haven't watched the show, huh.
fuming
>>291141377I accept your concession
>>291141472Their new cope is six month date with Luca is mistranslation
bruh
>>291141377I did and I never saw Miorine being into guys, maybe you wtached different Gundam cakled GQuuux and you made a mistake.
>>291141366you made it to the end of towa's anime? you're a brave one
>>291141531Never watched that one. Not into Pa stuff other than Shirobako
>>291141518I meant Sayonara Lara, which that anon clearly hasn't watched if he thinks the previous princesses all had romantic love for two dozen fish people at the same time.
Haven’t seen many people mention how hilariously stupid it is that they threw in the ‘painful legs’ thing from the original story with no explanation
>>291141672lmao
>>291141703I don't get why she continued her metamorphosis into a human (colors, ears) after the climax, but somehow her legs stayed stuck the way they were.
>>291141672holy based
>>291141753it was to show that she took so much cock that she couldnt walk straight anymore lmao
>>291141599The ones shown were romantic. Lara's love for Mari was not.
>>291141672>K shows up, lays down>"You too?"
Kaguya is pretty kino. Even the timeloop is ok.
Can't wait for the OVA where Lara RETVRNS to live with Mari carrying with her a bunch of mystery meat babies.
>>291141703It's not that strange. She cut her legs up crawling for Mari inside the fish dagger. Though there should probably be more damage than just her legs.
>>291141672
>>291142081It's not really the cuts, when they're floating in water her legs are shown to still be kinda scaly.
goodbye LaraI'm crying over you
>>291141798Nope, but we've already established that you aren't even watching the show.
>>291135511Never watch originals
>>291141672He fell asleep in the snowNever woke up, died alone
I'm still too scared to rewatch Blade Runner 2049
>>291142227The new one will have tranny mc lmao
bros wtf
>>291142431Don't tell Mami that Akira and Noi are married in that scene.
iroha is based because she got her wife twice, literal kino poly selfcest ending
>>291140392After the Light, potions likely became unnecessary.
>>291142180Lara still doesn't love Mari romantically btw
>>291142431Cute yaya on the left.
>>291142473thats kinda gay
>>291140545Mein Fuhrer... the LN writer...
>>291139015Yeah let the family die It would certainly be a story lol
Idol stories kind of rub me the wrong way. Meanwhile there's something about endings like SayoLara that resonate with me. Perhaps we shouldn't idolize anyone or any one thing.
>>291137123>classic hetero storyAndersen was a fag allegedly, and the mermaid who died tragically of ligma was his self-insert.
Kota Won
>>291142699Can do his FFM version for all I care if that means we get a manga that's as direct and horny as citrus.
>>291141257Also they were both broken girls that haven't found their true identities yet, who came into each other's lives pretty much by chance, and stuck in the system of the school. There are a lot of important thematic and contextual reasons and build up towards the separation ending that implies a hopeful reunion. All of the Utena clones miss this. Revue Starlight almost subverted this with the anime, and they went ahead and fuck most of it up with the unnecessary style over substance sequel movie.
Luca can impregnate Mari
Mari can impregnate Luca
Luca can impregnate Luca.
>>291142748You can be a fag and write hetero love stories, it doesn't matter.
I impregnate Leo
Leo WILL impregnate the entire cast
>>291142857Revue Starlight did the Madoka Rebellion thing of providing a sequel to a series that is complete and doesn't need a sequel, by making the movie a counterpoint to the series. That's fine. And it just makes sense for the artists they are, professionally they're just not going to work together much, that would be extremely unrealistic.What doesn't make sense is having the counterpoint in the same work, in a rushed and lopsided 5 minutes epilogue.
>>291142970I now have peace with the ending.
>>291142942Yes, and?Andersen didn't write Lara, nips did.They dedicated this shit to Andersen and made it gay. So that's a possible answer to this question >>291137123
>>291137123>dishonest yuri
Retarded tourists are going to spam their shit takes until it becomes the "official" response to the showThe dumbest people on the board hate anime, and especially get triggered by woke anime, so this show will be spammed by children throwing a tantrum despite amusingly being the exact audience of traumatized, mentally ill subhumans raised with conservative brain rot who need these sorts of themes
>>291143773Ok retard.
>>291143773Based
>>291142709Yeah it would be good. Again Lara’s living family doesn’t care about her, wants her to kill the person she loves, and actively want to genocide humanity if they’re able. A good bittersweet ending would be Lara letting the past be the past for the sake of her future. It’s what Grace would’ve wanted, hell she tried to kill Rowan herself
I've come to terms with the ending if I think of it as Lara having sacrificed her love to save Mari, and how she's a soulless dead inside roastie. That's the only interpretation where fucking off to a different city while being completely apathetic makes sense, bonus points for explaining the resurrection ass pull.The presentation still sucks ass though as the emotional impact of such a sacrifice is essentially nil if you have to cope it together after the fact.
>>291143968Grace was evil, that's why her minion Mari is punished and loses everything.
>>291143994>I've come to terms with the ending if I think of it as [retard headcanon]Yikes, it must suck to be so stupid you can't understand such a simple ending that was blatantly discussed in the dialogue
>>291144060It really wasn't though.
>>291143968Grace was a slut projecting her dream.
>>291144060From 1 to 10, how would you rate the ending?
>>291144082It was, the only people who pretend otherwise are the shitposters from /pol/ who have been spamming hundreds of posts since airing (since the leaks too, due to their total lack of life and having nothing else to do but spam /a/ all day every day as you're doing now)
>>291143994Unfortunately even this interpretation falls apart when you remember she started crying when she said goodbye to Luca
>>291144134She was just remembering how shitty Luca's painting of her was.
>>291143968It would certainly be a good idea to kill the family that raised her for the sake of some random person she didn't even know for six months and whom she ends up abandoning later anyway.
>>2911441117 maybe 8, still plenty of room for improvement like with their cute diagetic sfx used to drive emotions like the helicopter and train station arrival chime. The later worked well but the helicopter kind of stands out in a way that made me wonder if they were just trying to foreshadow the helicopter somehow getting involved rather than just being a dissonant sound mirroring Lisa's mental state.
>>291144177Well in this scenario the shitty epilogue wouldn’t happen anywayAll I’m saying is in the confines of the story Lara has two choices: lose the love she’s found on the surface for the sake of following the demands of her family, or forsake her family for the sake a future she can look forward to and be happy in. If you want a sad ending, this is just an alternative that most people would probably be content with.The problem is of course such an ultimatum is maybe too dark or grim for the creators to do, even despite Koide’s snide remarks about how real and grounded this series is. Instead they pull out some nonsensical ending where everyone lives but simultaneously no one is happy
>>291144114So /pol/ is into yuri these days? I guess I'm getting old.>>291144134That's what supports this interpretation.She specifically sacrificed her love for Mari. Or her ability to fall in love romantically in general. Not that the difference matters particularly.I just don't see why else she'd be so cold towards Mari while buttering up literally everyone else.
We need an OVA showing Kota and Lisa's bright new future.
>>291144306/pol/ tourists pretend to be into yuri when really they're just porn addicts and don't consider anything outside of fanservice to be actual yuri. That's why they'll shitpost endlessly about an ending where we got one of the most yuri images possible with the scarred girls embracing and then falling into the flower-strewn water.
>>291144355>Kota: come to bed sweetheart>Lisa: sorry, I need to stay up and seethe about humans for a little longerWould be peak
>>291144355We need an OVA with Mari becoming a mermaid and coping by dating Laura's sisters and making a harem
So was Lisa’s plan to try and get Lara into an incest situation with one of the sisters to power up her light? Or was there other unrelated mermaids in the shells as well?
>>291144403I genuinely think the writers didn't think of anything despite her attempting to get Lara to her side multiple times.
>>291144359Maybe you need to seethe less about /pol/ and read more of what you're replying to.
>>291144428I don't need to read the same post a shitposter from /pol/ has made a hundred times since yesterday. The sort of faggots swarming these threads are brain dead losers completely incapable of producing an intelligent post about the show, which is why they spend all day every shitposting from their mothers' basements.
>>291144359Okay but why are 2 girls not allowed to be outwardly romantic like normal people? Why does it always have to be symbolic scenes with deniability for the creators? Are you going to change your mind if (when) the director comes out saying it wasn't meant to be romantic?
I got the ending message, but I hated how it was portraited. Lara indifferense was unecessary, she acted like a fucking bitch with Mari for no reason.
>>291144403Lisa is the one who believes princesses make light by loving marine life in general. Since anglerfish worked for her, it's not that unreasonable to kindle her love by presenting a lot of sexy clam shells.
>>291144526She just had to present Lara with Mari's sexy clam and all the bullshit at the end would've been avoided...
>>291144488It isn't meant to be romantic, a major part of the ending is that Lara isn't even ready to love a human without hurting them due to her lingering resentment. >>291144526Lara's "love of living on the surface" that is Grace's dream was shown to be working as the developed lights with Luca and Mari were already enough to imbue Lara's voice with light that is regenerating the family.
>>291144379The impression I get is that Lisa was already more receptive to humans, compared to her family, during that conversation in the park.
>>291144637This is retarded cope. She was completely fine with Mari for 10 episodes.
Honestly the bad ending kind’ve just highlights how the show didn’t have that great of writing or pacing to begin with:- Lisa having no clear plan, even if it was to reignite Lara’s “love for the sea” she had clear method of doing that other than carrying her back to the lair 3 times- Rowan somehow knowing how the dagger functions, and also that it somehow functions differently from Grace’s and would restore Lara’s light rather than turn her into a witch- Mari having no plot relevance for the middle third of the story despite supposedly being the deuteragonist- Luca’s hamfisted inclusion to speedrun to episode 9 when he could’ve been introduced earlier- Bloated cast with creative but underutilized characters for a 12-episode one-and-doneThis all of course doesn’t even address anything that happened in the finale (multiple nonsensical subversions, no conclusion for pretty much any character, ooc behavior, etc.) and the slew of mixed messages the show tried to throw at us the entire runtime in terms of what the central theme was. Genuinely a good ending could’ve at least left a good taste in everyone’s mouth but the show genuinely didn’t have very good writing overall.
>>291144762>subversionsHe posted it again
I mean it’s an anniversary project, it’s mostly just a playground for the animators to have fun with in terms of creating character designs and interesting set pieces. Good writing comes after
>>291144637>It isn't meant to be romanticThen why portray the light stuff as romantic for 11 episodes? Seriously, people's main issue with the ending is that it seems to pull themes out of its ass that either aren't there earlier or are minor compared to others that are ignored.
>original little mermaid: loses her tongue, is in excruciating pain, loses the princebowl, foams, becomes a skymaid and has to do good deeds for 300 years to go to heaven>Lara: loses the princebowl, foams, gets resurrected, gets her tongue back, wins the princebowl x2 (3?), dumps them all and has to suck 300 cocks because of reasonsDeep. Profound. Gotta love modern day adaptations.
>>291144762>in terms of what the central theme was.What was the central theme?
>>291144762I somewhat agree with you, and I don't remember a whole lot from the last 4 episodes or so, other than Lara being miserable and always crying, Lisa annoyingly pushing Lara without a plan as you say, Mari, Luca and brotherguy having little means to keep finding Lara and so on. You know, they setup the three of them going on a boat to heroically chase after Lara but then Eel henchman abducts Mari, so forget about all that.Maybe it was stealth mid season writer change after all.
I remember someone posting a fake leak that Mari brought Lara to her mother’s grave. Would’ve been more intimate than anything we got in the finale
>>291144894Because the front side of the theme is a direct allegory for women being forced into "romance" by their families despite having no clue what true love is even supposed to mean. That's why it hasn't been portrayed as romantic but rather as confusing. There's literally an episode where Lara thinks she's found a perfect fairy tale couple but it doesn't happen. That's why Lara rejects the notion of true love in favor of living for love, the sort of life where she'd ended up cultivating light with lots of people including Luca and Mari to the point that it is nourishing her family. It's really easy to understand if you aren't a brain rotted child from /pol/ lol
>>291144988>Lara being miserable and always cryingThis part annoyed me as well, she went "I can't ever see you again" to Luca and Mari three times between episodes 7 and 11. Her character went in circles.
Koide's strongest warrior...
>>291145038Thats a lot of schizo cope ngl
ending sux
>>291145183It doesn't make it any less obvious how much you spam when you use schizo constantly
lol
>>291144762You don't need a better plan to stop (what you think is) a worse plan. Rowan obviously heard the story from Grace, and no, it's not working differently (Grace had light in the dagger). Luca's late introduction is perfect, too many people thought he was a love interest as is, he had to be (and was) nerfed hard.I'll give you that Mari could have used more screen time.
>>291144988Idk about the others but I though episode 9 and 10 were fantastic, especially the character moments in the boxing match and Grace transformation's + the lake changing.
>>291145243lol>"Lala will you miss me?">*already wanking it to some ethot on her phone*
>>291145287>You don't need a better plan to stop (what you think is) a worse planLisa is about to die when she tears Lara away from Mari with no alternate solution.
>>291145213That was my first post on the thread, hope the other anon understand your point, still sounds like schizo cope regardless
>>291138635KADO was complete trash the whole way through, Yahu being a gay cuck was just the icing on a shit cake.Mari being a dyke cuck just feels pointless, though I can't tell who I feel worse for. Yahu watching the man he loves impregnate a woman right in front of his eyes after essentially losing his purpose in life.Or Mari losing her mom, her fish mom, and the only person she's actually friends with
>>291145213Not everyone you're replying to is the same person.>>291145315Yes, and? Staying with Mari is certain doom for both of them in her eyes.You may not have a good plan to get your crackhead uncle sober, but you sure as hell know that continuing to hang around his crackhead friends won't help.
>>291145388Of course the people I'm replying to are the same, I've been watching you spam all yesterday so it's really obvious. None of you are really able to make posts without reusing the same /pol/ lingo or shitty forced opinions over and over so I'm not going to pretend it isn't blatant how much spam a few people are making.
>>291145449Anon seriously, get off the computer for an hour and enjoy your day doing something elsePic proof im somebody else
>>291135511Never date redhead
Here's your Lara done right.Apologize to Kyoani.
>>291144762Imo >I have to rewatch and rethink for Lisa>he had a lot of ways to gain that information from his ancestors and Grace>true but all of Mari's small moments were great and filled with personality. she could have benefited from more but she really felt like a full character even with what she got(+ we also had backstory episode mid anime so not that much space)>I disagree, the point of that episode was exactly to show why a rushed romance doesn't work>the cast was... rather small? there were like 3-4 major character and a bunch of side ones, not that much for a 12 episode anime, plenty of them have managed to deal with such casts and I have examples in mind of actually bloated onesI can't defend the ending though, everything deserved a better conclusion
>>291145567so pinks are sluts and reds are bitchesblondes are often oujousamas ho ho hoblack himecuts?
>>291144355Kota won
>>291145577This show is trash, and I say that as a fujoshi.
>>291135511Good riddance, Lara.
>>291145685>as a fujoshi.You can't just say that and show no proof.
>>291145577A better character than Grace
>>291136157it's complete dogshit unless you are a genuine yuritard, aka someone who doesn't care about quality as long as it contains his fetish
>>291145533I went to sleep and came back and you're still spamming the same shitposts lolIt's all so incredibly obvious how a few people are forcing this narrative about the ending. It was obvious when you started last week from the leaks already forecasting disaster like the /v/ style console war faggots you are.
Lara wants to be a pro at making cakes, she will need to make a big ass cake for Mari after all.
>>291138123>I could deal with the rest if they didn't massacre Lara on top of it.exactly my thoughts, it's like they sucked the joy and hope out of her
>>291145338My point is that the whole narrative changed. It built up a rare "tech isn't evil" narrative in which humans learned from the alien and implemented to use his tech to defeat illness, famines and other plagues that kill millions of people and it progressed slowly through diplomatic relationships only to do a 180° turn and make a magical girl who was actually a god appear or of nowhere, turn the reasonable alien dude into a batshit insane cartoon villain and declare that yes, technology is actually evil and it's better to have millions die of hunger and war because "struggling means you're human" or some shit.The gay cucking and child shit was just the tip of the iceberg that made it comically bad but it's not the point I compared Lara with.
>>291141672Literally me
One more thread.One more thread.
>>291145910I can accept the somewhat reasonable albeit overused moral of letting unrealistic ideals like the true love go in favor of a more down-to-earth approach and integration into human society blah blah it's maybe a fitting end if I am watching a series about depression or something like .hack, but I see no point doing it here. It was always a fantasy series whose point seemed to be that Lara can find love where she didn't expect it at first if she just stays true to herself and that she can overcome obstacles caused by interspecies conflicts. All that is done while the anime keeps showing us how happy she is with Mari and her family, how she even finds a job she loves etc.All so..she quits all that, gets rid of her ability to find true love and becomes a normal sad girl who sets off to a lonely journey to find something she might enjoy (or a job to slavewage at). Fucking why
So who's more to blame, Koide or Kawahara? I'm leaning towards Kawahara, this has her dirty Luca loving footprints all over if you ask me. Never trust heterosexual women with yuri, unless they're "heterosexual" women like Aoto Hibiki or Kuzushiro.>>291145861Are you genuinely coping that the ending isn't actually unpopular, it's just a single boogeyman with a recognizable posting style? Amazing, I wish I could be that optimistic.
>>291145904Kobe is more known for its beef. Lara is actually an alien that wants to dabble in cattle mutilation.
>>291145904You know who else is in Kobe?
>>291146080It's a few /pol/ tourists who have very recognizable posting styles including individual buzzwords and obsessions like the cock carousel shitposter. Why pretend it's anything else when it's obvious how much a few people are spamming hundreds of posts and samefagging to agree with themselves constantly?
>>291146080Koide is the director so it was his responsability to manage his team
>>291146134You don't seem to be very good at recognizing that posting style then, you're flip flopping between telling me to stop samefagging and explaining to me that there are evil samefaggers.>>291146324True, but you know how much of a pushover Japanese men are, especially first time directors.
>>291146423No it's very easy to spot you tourists, I just don't say the same things in every post so you'll pick up that random detail to start shitposting about as if it means something. This sort of troll behavior is also obvious and part of what confirms that you're one of the losers who spams this board with hundreds of shitposts every day because you're a mentally ill tourist who hates anime.
>>291146423>you're flip flopping between telling me to stop samefagging and explaining to me that there are evil samefaggers.So you admit that you samefag so hard that other people think you'd multiple people?
>>291135511Never pay more than twenty bucks for a video game.
>>291145702What? you want mye 100% completion slow damage save data?
>>291138377>unrealistic anime hairHe's just another Bjorn Andresen clone with light blond hair. Natural light blondes are a thing.
>>291146603Nope, post tits. That would be enough :)
>>291146488Except I wasn't even here yesterday and you're the tourist randomly bringing up pol out of nowhere when he dislikes opinions. Probably can't even speak moon.>>291146491No. Not being able to accurately assign a poster to every post is the expected outcome of anonymity, anon.
I won
>>291146734It's funny because trying to use smug reaction pics completely shreds your anonymity since you're the only one who does it. None of you are able to hide yourselves at all, least of all because most of the time you don't even bother taking the /pol/ lingo out of your posts.
I lost
>>291146782Mari...
>>291146770schizo
>>291146814That buzzword is essentially just saying "you're right," it's a reflex when shitposters from /pol/ get called out because they can't help responding the same way they do in their echo chamber
>>291146832schuzo
>>291146770Yes, I was intentionally using 2 (two) reaction pics to demonstrate a certain seniority or at least familiarity with the board topic. That was the point. Congrats on understanding it.I'd contest that no one else uses reaction pics, but proper anime or manga related ones are indeed a bit rare these days with tourists like you filling up the board.
>>291145577I apologize for thinking that Kyoani couldn't make a show worse than Musaigen no Phantom World. Congratulations, they've outdone themselves. They better learn from Sparks of Tomorrow bombing or their future looks bleak. At least it had the good grace of being shit all the way through as opposed to Lara being great until it decided to crash and burn in the very last few minutes for no reason.
>>291146978No I mean you do the "smug anime girl instead of an argument" thing from /pol/ to try to troll. It's a very noticeable trait, right down to how you use filename randomizer as well. You're trying to make people mad but all you're doing is putting on a signature.
>>291146982Witch Lara is so pretty
>>291147054Again, it was supposed to be. Congratulations, you've successfully understood the point. Maybe.>instead of an argumentYou might want to start actually reading the posts you reply to and use arguments then, instead of screaming /pol/.
>>291147159Well no, I'm not going to argue with tourists from /pol/ who only come to /a/ to shitpost because they hate anime. I gave a few good faith attempts to explain the ending and you just keep spamming your retarded shitposts forcing these narratives about the ending, so I'm just going to stop pretending that you tourists should do anything besides kill yourselves immediately.Go ahead, slit your wrists so I can find out what percentage of posts on the board every day are just your mental illness driven shitposts
>>291147195Lotta buzzwords for a dekinai
>>291147312Just like it doesn't matter how much you deny being a tourist from /pol/, it doesn't matter how much you pretend to know Japanese
>>291147346schizo
>>291147346Cope
>>291147346Have sex
Struck the nerve lolSo how many proxies do you usually use when you spam a thread?
>>291147430'bout 3
>>291147430Zero, I'd rather read more manga.
