Does anybody else feel weeb imposter syndrome?Like you've seen stuff that you know is niche by definition but the more you watch the less niche it feels.>It got a DVD release in 2003 or something so how could it be niche?You've only watched the top animes and read the most popular mangas of the 70s so of course you aren't really watching niche stuff but then you realize 70% of animanga public has no reason to go anywhere before 2018.What is some animanga you wish to see to feel more informed about the medium?
If you don't learn Japanese you will always be a secondary to weebs.To the Japanese themselves, you will ALWAYS be a secondary tourist regardless of what you do.>animes>sYou don't have weeb imposter syndrome, you are a genuine tourist.
No one cares
if you call yourself a "weeb" you're already failing, you're in it for the social identity and not the content
>>291137116>and read the most popular mangas of the 70s so of course you aren't really watching niche stuff Look up whatever else aired in that year/date/season beside the top10 and watch itBe the change you want
if you can't fill this up you're not a real fan
>>291137116Sex with alien ladies
>>291137116>>291137216don't care.I find the japanese and their cartoon elitism laughable and their society broken beyond belief.
>>291141113>t. zoomer that probably lives in a shithole
Who the fuck gives a shit. Maybe this thread would've been impressive in 2011, instead it just looks mediatok tier
>>291141113And yet you still spend your time consuming their media and using this board, curious.
>>291141150my shithole is better than yours, millenial *vomit emoji*>>291141194true, but i do not feel conflicted over this. Why should I?
>>291141670It hints that you have no self-awareness. But you aren't aware of it so that's fine.
>>291137254Yeah, it's kind of like the whole GEEK thing. Nobody who was ever a real geek or nerd was calling themselves that but now you got complete casuals laughing about what a nerd they think they are because they went and saw the deadpool movie
>>291141839high levels of self awareness is detrimental to the success of the individual, but i digress. You're just throwing random non-insults at me. If you thought about it for 3 seconds, liking product of society but disliking the society where it came from is common. Indian food, russian military equipment, hollywood movies.
>>291141869Its also that these people are in an identity crisis. They have mostly nothing going on in their lives and no real personality so they define themselves by what they consume and its sickening because they themselves become kind of a passive subject of their own identity: i.e. "since im a weeb i gotta watch what the other weebs are watching". They dont really like anime they just want to fit in. If you recommend something truly niche and unpopular they'll just laugh at you. They have no interest in anime beyond the social aspect they can extract from it. These are mostly the same kind of people that love to go on an on about the evils of capitalism and they dont really notice their entire identity is a product thats sold to them.
>>291142020Youre legitimately a retard my man. I dont know if youre baiting or not but youre a pathetic attention starved faggot.
>>291137116Ima worst korean user and we had well developed otaku community bc we ripped off everything from JapanAnd belive me, those 70% aren't worth developing your time, just read and consoom /a/ recommendations, thats best for sure
>>291142026Tbh I am afraid that I am falling in this trap. Not in the sense that I am watching/reading popular stuff just to stay with the trends but in the sense that some of my favorite time spent online was reading a good manga series with /a/ or watching a good original with them. Nothing can reach the same fun I had in the past online. I wonder if I also lack a personality.
>>291142102sorry i overwhelmed your feeble american mind which can only think in absolutes with my superior european multicultural perspective
>>291137116Who fucking cares? Just watch whatever you want. It's a hobby. You're supposed to be having FUN.If you're doing something to fit in or live up to an imaginary ideal you need to seriously reassess your outlook.
>>291142026It's not that I'm against fandoms really but stuff like anime, manga, movies, comics etc, this kind of consumption based hobby is, for all intents, done solo. At best it's something we do by ourselves in parallel, but it is still a solo activity. We can discuss what we watched but the act of watching it should be the draw. Fandoms existed because we shared an interest, now it feels like the interest exists for the sake of a fandom.
It's weird looking at it through the eyes of an older fag. People of my era are used to there not even really being much of an online to discuss on in the first place. Yeah you had old internet discussion groups but those were very much not the same. Though the more things change the more they sometimes stay the same.
>>291137216>You don't have weeb imposter syndrome, you are a genuine tourist.OP here, I thought this thread would be dead by now.Is just, I don't want to say stupid uninformed shit when asked questions. I'm kinda obsessed since I was a teen to know a lot about something. From subcultures to lolcows to anime.For example, where did the overused "Sad backstory as introduction" cliche started in shonen?I'd say that in Tetsuwan Atom since is the beginning of the plot but it was very utilitarian in it's use. So probably Dororo is the earliest strongest example of a shonen where the sad backstory drives the plot.But most Nekketsu Shonen didn't took that route as up to the late 80s and even mid 90s many manga protagonists were still introduced as already very strong and skilled and most sad backstories served the same utilitarian purpose as in Tetsuwan Atom, some had to learn they weren't the hot shit they thought at the beginning like Sakuragi Hanamichi but most stress came after the introduction and as an outside force.Then in 1995 you get the triple whammy of Rurouni Kenshin, Evangelion and Gold Experience.But that only applies if you are ignorant about the influence of Shoujo in Shonen which used that much earlier as well as World Masterpiece Theater.So you need to look more and more content to know more context to fully grasp what you're watching even if it's as vapid as "Sad backstory cliche in shonenshit".
>>291144363>It's weird looking at it through the eyes of an older fag.I do wonder what current fad will be considered niche and obscure anime in the future.
>>291145696When did the "OP sucks cocks" cliche get introduced? You need to study the whole /a/ archive starting from https://old.sage.moe/a/ if you want to gather that arcane knowledge.
>>291145696>Gold ExperienceVento Aureo.Fuck.
>>291144363>People of my era are used to there not even really being much of an online to discuss on in the first placeTbh I feel like even through the 00s most people that watched just watched some shonen and talked about it with their friends and stuff, that's what I did at least. Even now you can just... watch stuff and not interact really.
>>291142328>You're supposed to be having FUNThis is what brings me fun in this hobby.>>291145696To know more
>>291145802>>291145696>>291145755I no longer feel like bullying you but you have some sort of autism which is ok. If this seems fun to do, do it. Bye.
>>291144363>People of my era are used to there not even really being much of an online to discuss on in the first place.idk, much of what I learned about anime and manga and their industries in general comes from 00s forums and /a/.Youtube essay in many cases always miss important context, be it culture or business based or both. Completely misinforming the public.
>>291137116i came here decades ago and wasted my life digging through this shithole as a pretentious neet looking for obscure crap to develop better taste than everyone else.probably the craziest thing that has ever happened to a neet happened to me as a result. god must have been involved in some way. so it's hard to regret.but that chapter of my life is over and i'm back from japan and barely watch anime anymore and still have no will to live.
>>291137116I spy 4 short haired cutes in this image
> niche niche nicheNo, I don't give a shit about that because my point is enjoyment, not to measure an obscure dick against nobody.The value of people generally comes from how much money they have or earn, not inane trivia. If anything I lament that I don't have enough money to produce additional seasons of cancelled shows.
>>291146038>probably the craziest thing that has ever happened to a neet happened to me as a result.What?
>>291146038>to develop better taste than everyone else.I don't really care about developing taste, I just don't want to be feel ignorant and I feel satisfaction at finding out why things are the way they are, where the inspiration comes from, where did trend start, what was the zeitgeist and how was it possible with the tools and so on.
>>291142026>These are mostly the same kind of people that love to go on an on about the evils of capitalism Where the fuck did you get this from, they absolutely do not do that
>>291146122tl;dr: met cute nihonjin. spaghetti falling out of pockets, namedropped an anime so good and obscure that she took my virginity and spirited me away to the motherland to live in a house built by shonen jump royalties.inevitably dumped for being a neet.
>>291137116I feel so completely disconnected form normalfags that I have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about. Why would anyone care about this kind of thing??
>>291146283>namedropped an anime so good and obscure that she took my virginityLmao. What was the anime?
>>291146283And then you woke up
>>291146344Because it's sad. I want to know more but I want the normalfags to know more, I want everyone to know more.I don't want them to be shallow and reject old anime for being old because I want the joy that brought me watching old but good series to hit them as well.Frankly I don't know how we reach this, I think i framed it incorrectly in the OP.What I meant to say was that no matter how niche I find a new series I realize it never truly was but it also feels strange because it absolutely is for most people and I feel sad, I would feel sad if I were them.
>>291146283white people can't suffer
>>291146487Start dropping obscure anime as well I am sure it will work just like in that story.
>>291146427Your evaluation of what is niche is a personal one, and shifts as you become more familiar with the medium. Normalfags are also not averse to older anime, provided they are exposed to it in the proper setting and by people they trust. If you really want to remedy this set up a Youtube or Tiktok, or maybe start local screenings of older stuff in your area.
>remember black heaven for the first time in years earlier today>suddenly see a thread with it in OPwhat does it mean
>>291146614You are a newtype
>>291146551>provided they are exposed to it in the proper setting and by people they trust.Why are you talking like they're zoo animals being released in the wild? If any of us can get into more obscure stuff, they can too.
Who cares?If it's good it's good, I don't care if it's niche or not.I like some popular things like Hellsing and Overlord (though I am souring on it a bit)I dislike some popular things like basically all battle shounen, Gundam, and BerserkI like some niche things like Karas and Vatican Miracle ExaminersI dislike some niche things like Mecha Ude and K-On
>>291146821>K-On>Niche
>>291146855It is to normalfags, it's only really popular hereMost of the niche stuff I didn't like I don't remember the name of so I as just going off the top of my head.
>>291146283This sounds like pure bullshit but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. What's the name of that obscure anime? What do you mean by shonen jump royalties.?
>>291146792You're reading some kind of paternalistic/sick intent that isn't there in the post. You yourself were exposed to anime within the setting of /a/, and you likely trust the recommendations of anons over so-called "normalfags". Sure, not everyone stakes their whole media consumption habits on anime (and they likely have other things going on in their lives), but what can you do?
>>291137116The leading cause of imposter syndrome is being an imposter.I legitimately like anime at its core so I don't feel like an imposter.
>>291146885>It is to normalfagsTo normalfags K-on is more popular than Hellsing and most of Gundam.
>>291137116>Does anybody else feel weeb imposter syndrome?All my life at one point of another. Yet I like animation in general and the niche stuff is still niche the older you get. No one talked about Ruin Explorers until in the last few years. Now you can find it in both subbed AND dubbed for free on YouTube.
>>291146949Hellsing Abridged is what most faggots are familiar with, as much as it butchers the original. I don't really think most people know about K-On besides recognizing the girls. For Gundam, I'm kind of just going based on how everything else seems to reference it and the sales of merch. This entire conversation isn't my point anyway
>>291146961I should probably upload r.o.d on youtube to get people to discuss it.
>>291146937You just have low self-awareness
>>291137116
>>291147003>Hellsing Abridged is what most faggots are familiar withIf you even KNOW what an abridged is, you're not a tip of the iceberg type of fan and you certainly know K-On at the very least even if you haven't watched it.
>>291137116No, I just watch anime and talk about stuff I know and move on. I don't care about what popular,classic or not just if I like it or not.
>>291147116I don't pretend to not know about things I don't know, if I don't know something I'll flat out tell you. I don't understand why people are so coward to say I don't know about media now.
>>291147087>If you even KNOW what an abridged isI know plenty of people who only know about the abridged and didn't even watch the OVA proper until I forced them to sit down. And one of them thought that abridged was better, to my immense disgust. You underestimate how many non anime watchers know of Hellsing purely from the abridged.I only saw one episode of K-On, disliked it, then dropped it. I only know the name because it gets thrown around so much on here.
>>291147027>HURRRR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIKE A THING DON'T EXIST EVERYBODY IS AN IMPOSTER AT EVERYTHING
>>291137116Anyone who claims to be a "weeb" yet is ignorant about anime production and can't name "obscure" (yet highly influential) key animators like Yasuji Mori, Keiichiro Kimura and Sadao Tsukioka is by definition a poser/impostor. You are no different.
real otaku in japan don't into things that feels "otaku like" they just read and watch whatever they like usually stuff advertised to them on tv or just past works they find interesting at video stores (online too) but those who are in it for identity run after what they consider "otakucore" a bunch of aesthetic addicts. That's how you get a ton of people claiming to like a certain anime or manga but when you talk to them about it or when they measure it up with how they LOVE to represent themselves as "otakucore" it becomes apparent they're were in it for identity masquerading
>>291145785It feels harder to avoid. You kind of have to go out of the way to NOT interact with the greater audience if you're looking for things at all. Even the act of trying to find a picture or a wallpaper runs too much risk of engagement.
>>291145696did you read andor watch everything you mentioned here and if yes did you enjoy he process of doing so or did he dopamine only hit you once you were done going through them so that you can draw connections and act knowledgeable like your favourite youtuber
>>291137116Man, Black Heaven could've been amazing if they had the budget for more music.
>>291147063OP revealed as an actual imposter, damn.
>>291149234>real otaku>>291149317According to Japan apparently real otaku, those old school guys, are extinct and or nearly extinct. Even in Japan, or should I say especially in Japan the Nu otaku who do it for at least partial identity reasons if not fully for identity reasons are super prevalent. Those who remember days seem to dislike old school otaku. Heck many old school otaku have become Nu otaku because they can socialize about anime out in the open.
>>291149537>Heck many old school otaku have become Nu otaku because they can socialize about anime out in the open.I wish it were that easy. as someone who grew up with and being into nerd shit I can't help but find it a bit frustrating watching the new school audience flaunt their power levels but somehow still have a low one when it comes to actually understanding stuff. They'll proudly and loudly go on about the MCU but never read a comic, they don't know or refuse to watch any anime that's older than now. And it's not like I want to go up and say NAME FIVE IN BETWEEN ANIMATORS to catch them out anything like that but I can't help but feel like current audiences will just consume whatever you tell them too. They like what's popular because it's popular. Like look at Dungeons and Dragons. You have people playing watered down versions just because they saw it on popular show or online group plays. I dunno anymore. Maybe It is just sour grapes but watching what was once only really sanctuary collapse is frustrating.
>>291149440to add to this OP posts like this one >>291146427reminded me of a youtuber who is obsessed with identity aesthetics or "otakucore". just like OP here he is obsessed about being perceived as knowledgeable to that extent that be made a anime con panel about DND and it's influence on anime high fantasy genre the catch here is that the guy NEVER play DND and DOESN'T even know how to play it. you see why i asked if you even watched andor read what you mention on that post. this is a direct effect of identity masquerading + youtube video essays it leads to disingenuous search of knowledge
>>291149537>those old school guys, are extinct and or nearly extinct.on what bases did you determine that? >Even in Japan, or should I say especially in Japan the Nu otaku who do it for at least partial identity reasons if not fully for identity reasons are super prevalent.that's why i said "real otaku" >Heck many old school otaku have become Nu otaku because they can socialize about anime out in the open.old school otaku always socialized with one another out in the open back then and right now.
>>291146907indie film I thought I was the only person in my city who knew. she knew it because a family member worked on it and it was made in the city/subculture she grew up in. house also one she grew up in and also from a family member.surreal.
>>291149719>last remaining sanctuary collapseYup that's how the last remaining otaku felt too. Kinda sad the smartphones ended up killing everything.
>>291147021A lot of channels dedicate them to making up streaming nights on the weekends. Public watch parties of anime collections and they upload entire volumes of OVAs. Vary possible to just do that.
>>291150170>indie filmAnon, I asked for a name. If this isn't an imaginary story you should be bale to give a name
>>291151401plug them anon
>>291146283>>291150170virgins have such weird fantasies
>>291149719>but never read a comicI hate capeslop in general so I don't have a problem with that.
>>291149939I don't know man, I just think it's cool knowing why things are the way they are. The context, the Zeitgeist, and that legitimately makes it more fun.The more you watch the better but you don't have to watch everything to get a basic pattern recognition. For example, I have a massive Leiji Matsumoto blindspot but when I watched Interestella 5555 for the first time you can tell the retro style being based specifically on late 70s, yet because of the specific type of blurriness and how it tackled the curves on Beryl's design you can pinpoint the actual production in late 2002 to mid 2004 but with a very 2003 feeling.And that made watching it so much more interesting that if I had not known that. Like the people who claimed the style of the new TGiTS anime was 90s styled when it clearly was 1987 to 1989, as most characters design changed to the 90s more common styles very early in the decade with Tenchi Muyo!, Nadia and Future GPX
>>291152432>I hate capeslop in general so I don't have a problem with that.You're an idiot who couldn't have missed the point harder if it dick slapped you.
>>291152633I didn't miss the point and I understand what you meant but I don't think the audience of comics and mcu are the same, one is a movie , the other is sequential arts and my point is that even if they read modern capeslop it would be exact same shit since it's still slop at the end of the day. I'd rather they read better comics.
>>291149719>>291148001>key animators>in between animatorsWeak sauce. If you can't name 5 anime directors that have been involved in a sex scandal or 5 mangaka that have been caught with CP you are not a real weeb.
>>291149317I disagree. /a/ is the only anime forum I am using. I never have to interact with anyone else and it's easy to find pictures and wallpapers on boorus or other such sites.
>>291149537>>291149719>>291149234I understand all of these but... I still love the otaku culture, at least the 00s part of it and by otaku culture I mean /a/ in particular and all the fun discussions ranging from japanese MADs to incest doujinshi to eroge to anime/manga that felt relatable to lonely otaku such as Onanie Master Kurosawa.
>>291152885/a/ is the only forum I honestly CAN USE. You're all a bunch of shit posting cunts but It beats the alternative of needing to play nice all the time.
>>291153255>I still love the otaku culture,You don't even know what the Otaku culture is.
>>291153548Then correction, I love (old) /a/ culture.
>>291153548The 2d part of otaku no video should have kept being about the friends hanging out, going to conventions and making their own anime instead of the company wars and all of that shit.
