>>291137902
Couldn't do it without the Punished Tanuichi (A man betrayed by his country) soundtrack.

>>291137999
Taniuchi*

back in the day there was this rumor that the live action didn't do well and because of that they didn't continue with the anime.

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Have you guys seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRiVUVNUhIs

>>291138130
another live action sequel is coming next year, so the idea they "didn't do well" is garbage.

>>291137902
I think it was mostly because making a mahjong anime is probably not worth it and would appeal to a much smaller audience

>>291137902
The release of every season pretty much coincides with the release of a live action movie, and there was no third movie for a while. The real question is why Kaiji: Final Game didn't release alongside S3
>>291138629
Akagi seems to have done pretty well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SGBX3xKwFo
you gotta play the papinko

>>291138492
that's good news actually.
maybe they will make season 3 as advertisement for it.

>>291137902
Weed.

Don't make me explain more, it breaks my heart everytime I remember.

>>291138130
The Live Action did fine. The issue is that the anime was made as a commercial for the live action movie (and the second season an ad for the sequel). So there was no reason to bother making a third season since there was no third movie.

This is a normal anime thing that's been happening forever. Like Boogiepop Phantom exists entirely to promote the live-action Boogiepop movie. Cromartie High was also MEANT to promote the live action movie, but it was delayed to hell and back (that's why the anime mostly avoids adapting chapters that the movie covers).

>>291137902
Tonegawa is just better

>>291140168
I couldn't watch it because they changed Tonegawa's and the narrator's seiyuus, it just wasn't the same anymore

>>291140311
EBI ROLL
EBI GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAL

Looks like I got the "timing" wrong

>>291142998
Kanjiengan....

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>>291143060
Fuckkk wrong thread, oh well...

>>291138236
Based

>>291140311
The narrator won me over. He's a lot of fun and you should give it another chance.

>>291140040
I see this "anime is an ad" justification from time to time and I still don't really believe it
I mean yes, obviously if you like the anime you might be interested in other stuff
but making it the explicit purpose?
anime seems too complex and way too costly just to be a glorified movie trailer
it feels like it should be able to stand on its own, and be profitable by itself

is live action really such a lucrative enterprise that it makes fiscal sense to throw however many millions into anime production to hook people?
you're telling me the idea is to get people to watch 12 hours of anime content, in hopes that afterwards they will watch 2 hours of live action? and that said 2 hours will somehow make enough money to cover the costs of everything?
that just doesn't scan

although honestly, live action I can just about maybe believe if I squint
but people also say anime is an ad for manga, or goddamn light novels
there's no way there's that much money to be made in printing books, except the very few extremely popular series

>>291137902
Does he ever actually win?

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>>291148416
Often.

>>291138236
it's funny how it well it fits with yani neko

Does this guy also do hell golf

>>291146931
Good points, /a/non. With how much money goes into animated series, what amount of readership or viewership are they reasonably expecting to get for a written or film work? Are these series already that wildly profitable, or is it reckless (no pun intended) gambling? What prior success or successes might have motivated the industry to do this?

>>291146931
>>291149980
>anime seems too complex and way too costly
It is incredibly cheap to make when you compare it to US standards.
>it feels like it should be able to stand on its own, and be profitable by itself
A lot of anime are somewhat profitable on their own but one of their main purpose is really to have more volumes sold.
Overall, anime have razor thin profits for the most part, that's also why anime originals are so rare.

Even a trash manga can get hugely successful with a good adaptation, just look at JJK. Editors know this and that's why they order adaptations. Look at how the industry really works.

>>291150063
I'm talking about the finances within Japan, not compared to overseas. Do most of these series see a reasonable profit after their anime adaptation draws attention? If not, what's the percentage? What successes made the industry focus on this as opposed to a single series possibly lucking out?

>>291146931
>it feels like it should be able to stand on its own, and be profitable by itself
That's sort of the goal, the margins aren't great, but they exist. Movies traditionally need to make 3X their budget to be considered properly profitable, so you end up with a situation that goes like this
>Each episode costs 100K>you make 12, you spent 1.2M on an ad
>Movie costed you 10M to make
>Anime made 1.26M
>Movie made 30M
>30M+1.26M-10M-1.2M=20.06M profit
Now, you could make the argument that you can just take the 1.2M you had for the anime and just run traditional ads, but those don't pay for themselves, so now you have
>30M-10M-1.2M=18.8M profit
The numbers aren't exact, but that's the jist of it. It works similar for vidya (an inherently more profitable product), originals designed to push merch (THE most profitable product). Manga is kinda tricky, most nips buy anthology mags, those inherently are mutual ads (you're buying Shonen Jump for One Piece, might as well give the other shit on it a try) so anime for those are gonna be an ad for a mutual ad (that also has traditional ads) AND it's an ad for the tankobon. LNs are tiered, they have to prove they're worthy of a manga before they're deemed worthy of an anime (and a lot of them were web novels that proved they were worthy of a LN, Kadokawa literally owns the biggest amateur writer forum in Japan)

>>291137902
Even the 2nd season wouldn't exist without pachinko complex funding it.

>>291137902
In the current era where they are bringing back anything and even animating cancelled manga im sure the 3rd season will happen at some point

>>291146931
It would take a long explanation about how the anime pipeline to explain. The short version is: Anime costs money to make. Studios have to get the money from somewhere. For example:
>Bluray sales
>Morning Rescue
>other merchandise sales
>the source material publisher chipping in (for example, Kadokawa wants Slime Isekai to sell more copies, so they waive the licensing fee entirely and sometimes contribute money to the production)
The issue is that merch sales only happen after the fact, so having upfront sources of animation money is a huge deal. It makes the show way less financially risky.

So a lot of times, an upfront deal like a live-action movie studio going "if you make an anime, we'll contribute a chunk of our advertising budget toward the costs" is a HUGE deal. Since they also usually get the publisher discount on top of that. So if a Kaiji anime is deemed to be too high of a risk normally, Movie Bucks can make all the difference.

This is also why Netflix/Crunchyroll are slowly taking over the industry. They pay for rights upfront while the show is still in production. (although they're not the first. If you've ever heard of an anime called Kinnikuman Nisei/Ultimate Muscle, the anime pretty much only exists because 4kids were interested in the IP, so Toei knew they had guaranteed 4kids money. Not just the second season, either. There's a reason 4kids announced they had it just a couple months after the show began airing in Japan) But that's an unrelated tangent

The fact that Kaiji was one of the most viewed anime when it was airing (one of the very few anime to break the regular Conan/Pokemon/Curious George/ect lineup) and still didn't merit getting more of it should tell you just how big of a deal that movie money is.

>>291137902
Which game is arguably the easiest to win?

>>291151712
>It would take a long explanation about how the anime pipeline to explain.
The time seems present and the topic is interesting, so what's the long explanation about the current anime funding pipeline, /a/non?

>>291152286
I was going to bed.

Basically, late night anime is Paid Programming rather than network supported. Anime studios literally just fucking buy the timeslot from the network. On the plus side, it means they can do whatever they want with those 30 minutes. On the down side, the network isn't trading funding for a show where they can sell commercial space. So whoever's making the anime has bear the entire cost. (there are exceptions)

If you've ever watched late night anime on Japanese TV, you've probably noticed most of the commercials are for products from the same studio/parent company as the show you're watching. That's because those companies bought the 30 minutes and REALLY need merchandise to sell in order to make their money back. That's why DVD sales used to be such a massive deal a decade ago. They were one of the major sources where anime studios could turn a profit. Especially for shows that aren't obviously merchindisable.

I already mentioned this, but this is where the "anime is an advertisement for the manga/light novel/movie/ect" comes from. A lot of anime struggle to turn a profit. But studios can knock a big chunk of the production cost off by cutting a deal with whoever owns the source material. Kadokawa, Shueisha, ect. The publisher likes that anime boost the sales of a series, so they'll happily help contribute money to get the series made (or, at the very least, give the anime studio the rights to anime it for free). So if a big series like, let's say, No Game No Life's light novel goes on an extended hiatus, the publisher won't see it as a high priority series anymore and will instead push for other series to be animated. A studio can usually still brute force it through if they think it'll turn a profit, but that lack of publisher help means the studio is bearing more of the brunt of the cost.

There's more, but I'm tired.

>>291137902
Because nips are gay cucks.

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>>291151726
e-card

>>291152807
Thanks, /a/non! I'd like to hear more about this if you have time once you've woken up. Well, you'll already be awake again by the time you read this.

>>291146931
Adding to what the other anons said that's how it often goes with multimedia projects.
You've got your star project and everything else around it. The goal is to use the buzz from everything around the franchise to contribute to sales, as long as projects are relevent (airing or being published). A guy who watches the anime and get ads about the LA will most likely watch it when it drops for example.
Doesn't mean that the other projects are lesser or cheaper. Just means you have a priority and everything funnels into another.

>>291140040
>there was no reason to bother making a third season since there was no third movie.
Third movie came out back in 2020 and a fourth one comes out next year.
Where is my season 3 and 4