Don't forget to put on your trusty tinfoil hat. You wouldn't want government electromagnetic waves reprogramming your subconscious with propaganda.LAST>>291124702
>>291219196
read blacksad
>>291219329read whitehappy
>>291219532The whole house became his first karate chop
>>291219698BBBBBILLLLYYYYYYY!
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>>291219196Well, bat. What do I want?
>>291219329>>291219370Read grayneutral.
>>291219743>>291219813This feels like it's one of the more clearer pages that spell out what the bat's meant to representUnfortunately I've become retarded from masturbating long ago
>>291219358A disaster in September, you say?
>>291219532I now feel like rooting for him
>>291219861Thx man.I'm excited for the upcoming chapters. They have my favorite payoff for a character ever.
>>291219861Really good chapter todayThanks OP
>>291219861Thanks, great chapter again. Urasawa's really good at building up characters and eventually making plot points fit together
>>291219861Narration: He did not, in fact, come back from America.
>>291219342Holy fuck, it's like a biblical event.
>>291219264>>291219285>>291219342Violence Jack
>>291222353you can't be japanese, have a story set in that time and not talk about the great kanto earthquake.
>>291222628>130,000 deaths/a/nons in their 30s, or over, can remember the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami, which estimated death toll of approximately 227,000 to 230,000 people (160,000 to 170,000 in Indonesia alone) to think about the scale of Kanto earthquake.
>>291219861if zofuu just gave the order then kurusu could've been an artist too
>>291220591>>291219861Shishou...Thanks OP
>>291219861Thank you for posting.
>>291223851but that would have created a time paradox
worst boy soon
>>291225792>>291225774https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Cfy58-zPU
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>>291225774>>291225807for a split second I genuinely thought someone had thrown a batarang in that bottom panel
>>291219843>When I get back from Americaoh no no no...
>>291225808Thank you for posting!>>291225615>Johansson from SwedenSwedish comic artist Charlie Christensen has drawn his own version of Donald Duck since 1983, called as Arne Anka, who views the Swedish society from a critical lense. Disney threatened legal actions to Christensen because Arne was drawn similarly to Donald, so Christensen altered Arne's beak and name (into Arne X). But Arne would later buy a fake duck beak, basically going back to his old look, and he would remove the false beak whenever Disney lawyers confronted him.picrel translation: "I have no problem with alcohol, I have a problem with reality!"There's also this Swedish artist Lasse Åberg, who has made sketchy Mickey Mouse pastiches since the early 1980s, but he's more of an artist than a cartoonist
>>291225892Fascinating.I wonder how many people died just for making Billy Bat tijuana bibles while deployed
shot in the dark but has anyone come across anything kinda like picrel but with billy bat fighting shonen bat from paranoia agent or other memetic virus characters in an absurdly "epic" way?
>>291225728yeah, when he got a hand on a gun this is exactly what I expected to see
>>291225892Oh shit I remember this duck, there was some thing about like, him complaining about women complaining about anal sexI just thought it was an adult parodied edgy Donald, it's really cool it was a separate thing!
>>291225892okay, but did these guys genuinely come up with their versions on their own?because if they took Disney's characters and altered them, then I have to admit Disney's got a pointBilly Bat implies the "fakes" all came with the idea independently, because the bat spoke to themthat's a different situationor is the manga taking a stance against copyright itselfthat's a much more hairy discussion, but I don't feel like there's much narrative focus on the morality of it, beyond fake Culkin's obsession
>>291225576
>>291226780>>or is the manga taking a stance against copyright itselfI think so, to a degree at least"If the art speaks to the audience matters more than any legalese about if you have the 'right' to draw somethingRemember this whole manga kicked off with Kevin realizing he'd stolen Billy Bat in the first place and wanting to make things right, only to be told "I don't fucking care, if what you did is stealing then I stole it too"and its important to remember Japan's own doujin scene, with many successful mangaka starting off making money off characters they didn't have the legal right to reproduce and sell
>>291219793>The whole world will be thrown into the depths of hell>Karate Chop:I've got a Golden Ticket~ I've got a Golden Twinkle in my eye~
>>291225647This is one of the manga's major themes and one I like the most. The idea that artistic works, like any other domain, build on each others and that should be encouraged. The best part about it is how the opposing idea holder is a Disney's analog.
>>291225808Soon.Thx bud.
>>291226837yeah, I get thatat the same time, there need to be some rules protecting the artists, otherwise they get exploited by others and corporations like, well, Disneynot that the current rules are perfectit's an interesting subject, but I don't feel like the manga really goes in-depth about itor maybe I'm being dismissive because the central Culkin-Yamagata conflict is obviously evil vs good so there's not much room for nuanceI would have much preferred more discussion and viewpoints in this debate to be the ultimate theme, rather than what we got
>>291226983>otherwise they get exploited by others and corporations like, well, Disneyhave copyright laws ever protected an artist from being exploited rather than served the corporate interests exploiting them?I mean shit, look at The Artist Formerly Known As Prince
>>291227095sure they haveand do, every daywithout them, the market would be 90% bootleg and royalties wouldn't existthe corpos exploit those rules, and influence them for their benefit, but that's corpos being corposI do think the laws are a net positive, in some aspects if not in others
>>291227186the market's already 90% bootlegs and the lion's share of royalties go to the corporations and not the artistsand corporations can sue any living or dead artist into the grave but nobody is ever going to sue disney or sony records into liquidation for all the theft they've done unless its being done by an even bigger corporation
>>291225728poor chuck
>>291227280well yeah, but there's a limit on how much we can pin on the copyright law alonefor example, America operates on the absolutely retarded system of "you have to pay legal costs even if you win", which to me as an euro is utterly unfathomablecorporations as a whole get very preferential treatment and their IP hijinks are more of a symptom than the root cause
>>291227547frankly corporations as a whole are grand treason against all life on earth.If your business is doomed to fail without corporatisation and putting everything in the hands of investor capital from people that can't and won't be held responsible for what they demand the business does in the name of profit, you never had a viable business strategy to begin withUsed to be a corporation at least had to consistently prove that they at least served public interest in some way to retain its rights as a corporate body but Ronnie and his successors scrapped all that in the name of nepo baby business majors getting everything they want forever
>>291219698sensei has a great figure btwrealistically jacked but also clearly the strongest guy in this manga
>>291225728an hero billy was right
>>291227654truemake shareholders be fiscally and criminally responsible for companies in which they have shares, and watch the stock market learn morality overnight
>>291228230agreed
>>291219196>BIllygawain...
>>291228842there's three bats though. bily, billy and billly
>>291225968best I can get ya, buddy.
>>291230654I'll gladly take it
Bump
>>291225892Speaking of ''fakes'', in 1917 Finnish artists Ola Fogelberg and Jalmari Finne created an anthromorphic character called Janne Ankkanen who has a striking resemblance to Donald Duck. The similarity is purely a coincidence because Donald Duck was born 17 years later. Janne Ankkanen's stories also were about Finnish society, the 17-18 stories touching on the charged civil war era society and later stories in 40s being related to war, such as rationing and black markets.
>>291232724Intredasting.
>>291225728Chuck is so tragic.
>>291230654Kino
>>291232724>Who are you?! Donald Duck, huh! Well, since I'm older, I propose we do away with titles — my name is Janne — thank you!
>>291227186Nonsense, just look how much value an original signed copy of anything worthwhile gets on the collectors market.
we back?
billy you fuck why do you want to bring this site down
>>291219813Once again it seems like Billy isn't forcing people to do good or evil, but is merely amplifying the choices that were already made.
>>291227095>have copyright laws ever protected an artist from being exploited rather than served the corporate interests exploiting them?Bungie recently got the pants sued off of them when they flat out stole an artist's entire portfolio for Marathon. Copyright law DOES help smaller artists, even when it doesn't feel like it. Hell, it's arguably one of the only tools artists have against corporations.
>>291239660In case anyone needs a refresher on the original scene way back at the start>>289472699
>>291239226Don't you wanna be an hero?
>>291240289On the floor?
I WILL NOT DRAW THE BA
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>>291240791Rate hitler's bat.
>>291240757>>291240791dude is trying so hard not to laugh
>>291240644What the fuck kek
>Billy Bat created Adolf Hitler and is swapping the main characters race
>>291240791Ominous
>>291225808>>291240791>even the Bat has to repeat ideasAlso I wonder what Kevin would think if he found out he did the exact same piece as Hitler.
>>291227095>have copyright laws ever protected an artist from being exploited rather than served the corporate interests exploiting them?Every single time a script has been picked up by a studio instead of just being copied 1 to 1 without giving the writers anything, which is what would happen without copyright laws. The reality of the situation is that economical means limit your ability to produce much more than anything else. If you decided tomorrow that copyright doesn't exist, then the productive power would still sit in the hands of corporations and so would the ability to market and distribute efficiently.
>>291240644>>291240791I'm impressed at this comic's ability to shock me, even this late in the game.
>>291240676I KNEW ITThis guy was mentioned in episode 1 without anyone knowing
>>291240791WHAAAAAAAAAAAATThanks OP
chuck.................
>>291239286>LIONette was a dogSomehow the most shocking revelation this chapter
>>291243961She showed up in chapter 1, though her name never came up back then
>>291240791Yeah, the bat needed a better artist.
>>291240791holy aura
>>291240791Pretty ominous!
>>291225485I like Kurusu and Devivivivi's cartoon designs
>>291225671Chuck has had enough of this shitThe uprising starts now
>>291225753He really got Kevin with that question
>>291240791that god damned batto...
>>291244421that's not the same character, that's just how Yamagata draws females
>>291240705>>291240737Is it really a good idea to give a portrait of Hitler to carry to a guy who is trying to blend in America
>>291240644>>291240676Is this the manga with the highest concentration of THAT chapter?
>>291244421I thought her name was Cissy
>>291240757>>291240791>Billy I'm watching your show, why you trying not to laugh bruh, that's disrespectful as shit.
>>291247105That's Devive's mom. I think there is a character like that in the fake billy cartoon as well.
>>291219196enough, go in the filters.
>>291243502I've never noticed the star of david on the gun lmao
>>291239588Busybodies, ugh.
>>291239660>Entry without warrantAre you legally allowed to shoot them?
>>291240264Doesn't Japan already belong to them by this point?
>>291240791Another BAT!?
>>291240791Billy sama I kneel
>>291240757this made me think of Problem Sleuth or Homestuck perspective lets you look only at one wall, and then the camera rotates and reveals a space baboon or something
>>291240289so was America really that scared of spies that the police would assign two full-time inspectors just to spy on somebody who might be one, based on flimsy evidence?also if both rooms spied on each other, then how come neither noticed the other was glued to the window with binoculars? talk about blind
>>291249354the American regime is so scared of spies they're now spying on every single person in america through multiple means, and are striving towards the goal of spying on literally everyone in the world at all times
>>291249561that may be, but they didn't have the technological means back thenspying was more costly
>>291249573So you can imagine how scared they were that they might fail to spot a foreign spy and wouldn't even know
>>291249598I can't imagine that they would multiply the police force by a factor of 20 just to pursue all those shadowswhich would be necessary for how this manga depicts it
>>291249354it wasn't common of course, but the red scare did lead to some wild goose chases.
>>291240644What the fuckI thought it was going to be the fake Chuck
>>291240676Nvm I guess
>>291230654Is this OC? Crazy underrated post
>>291240644That fucking bat I hate
>>291249257I should really reread problem sleuth one of these days
>>291250263you shouldn't the author is an asshole
>>291250579most author's arekind of an inevitable side effect of how you need an ego big enough to think you have a story worth telling in the first place to commit to spending all that time writing and publishing it
>>291250579Problem Sleuth is genuinely a good read though, Hussie only underwent severe mental illness 1/4 of the way through Homestuck, you can still appreciate the property despite the author homie
>>291250642different kind of assholemanipulative, backstabbing, uses emotional blackmailthe kind of person with whom you need to be very careful what documents you sign
>>291250802yeah I guesstoo bad the author forcibly took down the best way to read his works offlinethe official site was a shitwreck around a year ago, I don't know if the situation's changed
>>291250929I remember seeing archives out there where you could re-read it properly after Hussie's bullshit, I haven't fucking read Homestuck or had that in my brain for so long,
>>291250929It got relauched a while ago but I dunno if everything got fixed, there's an unofficial version that has everything intact at least.
>>291240791Billy you can't just casually spoil this like that.
>>291240791Thank you for posting.
>>291250898Well I'm not gonna sign any documents with the fella, thanks.Doesn't matter if the manga is good.
>>291250579So what? You don't give him any money by downloading the archive and reading it through the fan made program.
>>291248940This is the 50s, the 4th Amendment didn't exist back then
>>291250929I was reading Problem Sleuth this year and it worked normally
>>291244421i don't think it is the same character
>>291257281do all female characters in the billybat comic look the same?
bump for late readers
>>291230654Watch out for that Bat Billy!
>>291258812Only the ones we're meant to find attractive. Many such cases.
>>291225753>>291246859If only he met Jackie. Only major character who likes Chuck Culkin's Billy Bat?
>>291263690cute!
>>291265467the term is age, newfag
>>291225753Ah shit, the one time Kevin's momma not raising no liar is going to backfire.
>>291240791yep. this is the work of the white bat
>>291267484who are you talking to bud?
>>291267985The Hitler in his heart
>>291267721That yakitori seller has such a punchable rat face
>>291267985the documentary crewlegend of Chuck Culkin begins now!
Wait, do I have a question. Weaselman can see Billy and has talked to him but earlier Billy told Kevin that he didn't know if he could see him or not.
>>291268085Maybe the Billy talking to Kevin and the one talking to Kurusu are different ones
seems like the bat got the dumpermay he rest in peace
OP got whacked.
>>291268148It keeps happening
>>291268213I would post the few remaining pages for him, but I don't have them on my device
not op
fin
>>291268148>>291268208https://youtu.be/eiIeSVsMAhc
>>291268319thanks not-OPand thank you OP, wherever you are
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>>291267985His inner merchant.
okay, wasn't expecting thateither OP went into a time tunnel or 4chan is acting up again
>>291268534Maybe he's using cued posts and had another thread throw off his post cool down times? I think that's a thing I've seen happen to people dumping a manga before.
>>291268319>>291268502Convergence of dumpers (real and fake).
>>291268718This too, is the bat's fault.
>>291268319>>291268502waht the hello. which one is the white and which is the black!!!
>>291268022Honestly I'm glad that fucker died. What a sack of shit.
