From Bluray Vol.1Shiori Tani:(Character Designer): "I wish we'd dug a bit deeper into Luca." https://x.com/comaimaco/status/2103746973195264067
>>291243791They could have made the deepest character deeper
>>291243791I'd like to dig into Lara if you catch my drift
>>291244620Luca would dig deep into Lara.
Maybe either Luca or Lisa should have had more to do. They are not the same person btw.
>>291243791Wow this twitter post confirms what everyone said about the ending. Quick, make sure you all repost this twitter post forever on /a/, because that's why everyone does on this board when a really important twitter post gets made.
Yuri
>>291245087oh yeah so what's the blue ray image? does it totally save and redeem the ending?
>>291243791>crazy how it seemed like all these seeds we planted where going to go anywhere but uhhh just didntThere's no way they're just coming out and saying it, right?
>>291245439Expressing generic sentiments about doing more with a time-limited medium, yes, as often happens.
>>291243791Don't forget to buy!
>>291243791Damn i cant believe they said in the interview Mari was a boy iAnd written as such in production until the last six minutes.
>>291243791Yeah sure, steal even more screentime from Mari, she's an irrelevant side character after all.
Im glad I didnt watch this show, I could smell the bullshit just from the images
>>291245087At this point, we cannot conclude anything about the ending. We need the director's production notes, his diary, his doodles as a kindergartener, the transcription of every scriptwriting meeting, and the name of the person behind that one animation error.
>>291246015As soon as it's posted on twitter I'll take a screencap and repost it here
>>291243791Based.
>>291243791> we admit the setup was kinda shit and unfocused xd
I haven't watched it yet but the reception seemed positive every single week up until the end. Is it just the ending that people hate? Wasn't it a good show?
>>291246459To me and many others the ending, specifically the last six minutes of the show, is so bad that it ruins everything beforehand, but to others it doesn't though almost everyone agrees the ending is really, really bad.
official when they're trolling angry viewers vs official when no one is buying the BDs
>>291246459A few butthurt faggots are seething at the ending.
>>291246459A lot of level-minded heterosexuals are not happy with the ending.
>>291245308
>>291246459Everyone told you it was going to be bad from the start just like all yuri. Didn't you see the leaks from twitter we all posted before the ending and how much out of context summaries confirmed it would be shit. The legions of yurifagtroontards hyped up this show as sloppy mermaid scissoring and Lara declaring that the Japanese government must recognize full gay rights immediately so they deserve to have this ending that everyone says is bad. Please look at these twitter posts and agree with everyone that the ending is bad >>291246478
>>291246459last six minutes feels like it was written old religious lady who believes gays are just women friends who live togethor
>>291246667damn
>>291246459It is very good until the last 5-ish minutes of the last episode.It is bad enough to sour you on the entire thing.
>>291243791I wish they didn't go with the dogshit ending just so they could say "Sayonara Lara XD"
>>291246459I'll say that the ending would be very fitting for a horror story. I don't even hate it.
I was a huge fan of this almost masterpiece until the last two seconds were so bad that everyone agrees it ruins everything. What a disaster that everyone on twitter is talking about how bad it is.
>>291246459the ending was a phenomenal flop because the producer really wanted to be avante garde about something he himself said he had no understanding of
>>291246910That's right everyone agrees that professional has no clue what he was doing that's why the Japanese government has already introduced legislation to have him put to death like everyone on twitter is demanding
I think she was dead all along and the show was delusions/magic and the real reason it's called what it's called is because it's about moving on past grief
The ending is good and profound
>>291243371Nah, now there are more females than ever but they are the wrong kind of females and there are anime with double cour but that doesn't exactly make the anime good, aquatope was shit for example
>>291245439it's like you've never seen a single cour original before
>>291243791when are they making the sequel "Fuck you, Lara"?
>>291247215I have never seen these many people attached to a show so candidly admit they had no idea what they were doing.
Guys, want to do a neat challenge? Let's not talk about the ending at all in this thread.Baker Lara was my favorite episode. It was really good at showing Lara's thought process.
>>291246459Not true, I said this was ok at best, so basically a 5/10 show with a 1/10 ending, the only thing being praised about the show outside the yuri talk was the visuals that I didn't think were that good.
>>291247340It's almost like none of them actually said that and you're just spamming shitposts to push a narrative
>>291246459I dunno I liked the ending. As in, I really do think it makes sense for Lara as a character (she was tied to the same place all this time, all this time going by expectations of others, this is the first time she has any kind of choice of freedom), and find it kinda funny how many anons pop a nerve from it. Only thing I do think was that it was quite sudden, which is weird given the show upsofar handled pacing quite well
>>291247376It's not what she does, Lala wanting to see the world is one thing, it's the execution of the scene, the way she reacts so little to Mari's pain, the lack of any reassurance whatsoever she'll ever be back.
>>291247350>was the visuals that I didn't think were that good.It were better than most anime series though
>>291247376>how many anons pop a nerve from itIt's not many at all, it's a completely astroturfed "negative reaction" that's spammed by a few ban evading shitposters who do this exact song and dance for various shows every season depending on what triggers their snowflake sensibilities. It's the thing the gamergate crowd have tried to do making every "woke" video game a failure by mass shitposting it into existence brought over to /a/ by tourists. That's why one of them keeps posting screencaps of twitter posts with interview quotes, random opinions, or leaks the week before the finale purely in order to feed the shitpost cycle with new content. One of the most blatant ways to recognize this sort of raid is that they all talk about yurifags/tards/troons nonstop and spin elaborate myths about what these imaginary other people are doing in order to justify more shitposting. You can tell immediately it's the same group of tourists because they do the same style of "yurifags are doing X so I'm going to rant about Y" shitposting on twitter too.It's all just a game where they pick shows to shitpost into oblivion and that's it
We truly said Sayonara to any chance of getting a season 2 with Lara.
See here >>291247463 is a perfect example of one of the spammer's posts. You can tell instantly because he says something that's just factually incorrect>the way she reacts so little to Mari's painWhen the scene actually goes out of its way to show that Mari's whimpers are the first thing that have made Lara pause and look over after ignoring Mari's ribbing about how quickly she's going to run back and easily reiterating her own profound feelings.Those sorts of basic inaccuracies of the spammer who wants to create a delusional canon where all these incorrect assertions are true and thus why "everyone" says the ending is bad. But it's all just founded on spamming hundreds of posts of bullshit over and over to create a fake consensus
>>291247463Ah yeah, I kinda see that complaint more then. I still felt like it was clear they'd meet again, but... it was quite weird how intentionally the director avoided the general hallmarks of a goodbye, not making it as in your face.
>>291247376It's not a bad ending in a vacuum, but it's really badly executed. Add an episode or even half an episode between it and the climax to get a bit more into Lara's headspace and get back to her need to be independent, and you'd probably be able to ease the viewers more gently into it. As it is it's really jarring.
>>291247376>>291247614There's no version of this ending that can be executed without Mari coming off as being callously tossed aside by the writers.
>>291243791Did a thread really have to die for this sack of shit again? It's over, shut the fuck up already
>>291247647Yeah that's one problem that can't be solved with just a bit more runtime at the end.
>>291243791Yeah Luca just comes off as a super annoying friend the entire time. I like that he's an artist but just comes off as really one note being an artfag and falling down sometimes.
Mari will get her revenge.
>>291243791>goodbye larahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuKzt7p-MnM
Luca as a character makes zero sense since he didn't turn out some kind of reincarnation of Nikolai or magic plot device. So you're telling me that in Shiga, Japan there's this white teenager who's identical to a 13th century prince, and he's an autistic painter, lives in a giant victorian style atelier and has a crossdressing preteen brother? What the fuck is that? Why? It'd be one thing if the world of the anime was wackier, but everything and everyone in Shiga is pretty grounded and real, the mermaids are really the only fantastical element in the anime.
>>291247910I'm willing to bet the context of his existence was one of the casualties of the story changing since the original concept trailer.
>>291247655Yes, yes we need a thread like this.
>>291247470>gamergate and /v/ are out to get me and Sayolara even though yurifags hated the ending the most for having been baited again!!Meds. Now.
>>291247682Luca wasn't that bad overall but I think the way he introduced himself pretty much ordering Lala to contact him soured me on him more than it should have. I spent the whole episode thinking of him as an asshole even if they tried to disarm that with his habit of falling over for no reason to make him look less threatening.
>>291247910Nikolai married some other mermaid chick from another sea after all and Luca's ancestors fled to Lake Biwa as their fishy mermaid batteries kept getting depleted elsewhere and they were showing scales. Thats why Luca and Leo look mermaid like.
>>291247999>yurifags hated the endingNo that's just you spamming
I just wanted mermaid yuri man. Now i gotta go to the Philippines for it. I dont understand how they line up a shot for a banger ending then last second try to toss it backwards
>>291247910IIRC some interview somewhere, they toyed with the idea of explaining why they looked alike with some fantasy explanation, but decided to do away with it completely.
>>291247963He was in it as the potential love interest in the og trailer tho. The da was the one absent and most likely replaced wheelchair oneesan since daddy issues are more common.
I wonder if the show had the same thng as how i met your mother where the ending was more or less set in stone even as the ideas and show changed into something else
>>291248087Judging by director interview after the anime, the show was always about Lara independence and not looking for true love as a theme for it and as the ending he wanted to have even more sad ending to this but he decided on just seperation without zero emotions behind it (strange that in comparison to how Lara ended with Luca he added emotions to that scene for some uknown reason), he never intended for this to have a happy Lara x Mari ending to not make it typical yuri show. Of course in final scene Mari and Lara were always looking at each other while not looking at each other or something, director thinks we should notice such things and we are stupid as audience in overall to his greatness for not seeing it.
>>291248087From the latest interview it looks like that's what happened, at least that they had the ending decided from the beginning.
>>291248037>>291247979Fun fact: this fucking prick got fucked off by Circus antiyurifags
>>291248087>>291248170This is a classic setup and samefag reply with some pretty obvious tells. The first post makes a comparison to a western media property and prompts a question about the creation of the show that leads into the samefagging reply that brings up the interview again. As I pointed out before, you can always spot this spammer in particular because of the basic factual errors like >but he decided on just seperation without zero emotions behind it For a scene where Lara gives a smiling, teary-eyed parting with an accompanying increase in sunlight. Then there are dismissals of technical points such as >Of course in final scene Mari and Lara were always looking at each other while not looking at each other or something, director thinks we should notice such things and we are stupid as audience in overall to his greatness for not seeing it.Which is just pretending to be retarded about things like sightlines in cinematic language just for continued shitposting purposes.
>>291243791Honestly the show would've been better if we met Luca sooner and Mari had a much smaller role.
>>291248248Probably, but how would you change the climax? Does Lara simply not have a true love and manages to destroy the dagger on her own? That would be more coherent with the ending we got probably.
Question, if the show was always about Lara becoming independent and not her looking for true love then why the show wasted 11 and 2/3 of final episode for that true love looking theme to find it in Mari character and as for indepndence theme we got 6 remaining minutes of last episode to dismiss the true lvoe is neeed angle (just because it turned out to be Mari) just to show us Lara seperate from others ending while before she lvoed to be with others in mari household and Mari herself as her reason to staying on the syrface as human?I don't get this strange jump.
>>291248037>Now i gotta go to the Philippines for itIf you are talking about that short, that was also disappointing.
>>291245087This isn't /v/ we post actual news/content/commentary from the industry here. Stop trying to make your other board's twitter shitpost threads with ours.
>>291248296This entire thread is just bait for shitposting though, not commentary being shared in good faith. And it comes from tourists from /v/ who have imported the entire "/v/ hates video games" and gamergate style opposition to the industry over to /a/ for shitposting purposes. It's made by the same spammer who went wild spamming after the leaks as well, which also were presented to the threads through twitter posts. It's just this dude trawling twitter nonstop for content to shitpost about.
>>291246459There's two things going on/a/ has yurifags that are somehow ignorant of the "it's just a phase you go through in school" trope when it's over 100 years old and built into Japanese fiction more than any of the younger but still fucking old post-war tropes are. andIt's a genuinely bad ending that's completely unearned, disconnected from the content of the show that came before it.
>>291248272Cuz the mermaid kingdom were all dying
>>291248296You're talking to a bot, don't reply.
>Finale Lara is Susan from Narnia Finale
>>291248291Fuck man what a bummer.>>291248246>>291248233My guy you're shadow boxing more than Mari. For your own sanity please get examined
>>291247376It's not about choice it's about love and suddenly in the 11th hour trying to reframe the entire series into Japanese cliches about walking away doesn't work. Which is dumb because The Little Mermaid's original ending is already one where she leaves, but she goes out into the world as a sort of purgatory to do even more loving.
>>291248332>yurifags thatThis is the spammer again, the usual obvious tells in play like spinning this mythology about yurifags and then just regurgitating nonsense about the ending being bad
>>291248476Take your meds.
>>291248368>suddenly in the 11th hour trying to reframe the entire series into Japanese cliches about walking away doesn't workAnother appearance by the spammer, here showcasing another one his classic tactics of blaming some kind of imaginary Japanese storytelling trend while again just blatantly lying about a show that confirmed it wasn't going to be about simple true love in the very first episode and again at every stage of the way by having Lara fruitlessly pursue something imposed upon her by someone who can't even define it for her.
>>291248511クラスS isn't made up and I made exactly two posts in the thread. Plus you don't understand The Little Mermaid so you don't understand the point I'm making since you think it's about ending up with someone. You know what doesn't have someone end up with their lover? The Little Mermaid.
>>291246478Kota Won
I haven’t watched the last ep, is it worth watching?
>>291248511Same anon still trying to defend a bad ending kek the majority of the people who would've become decade-long fans and shills already moved on thanks to said shitty ending bro
>>291249004No it's just you spamming into the void to pretend there's some kind of negative reaction
>>291248983No
People pretend the ending is the only problem, when in fact it exposed all the narrative nonsense leading to it.The light? MeaninglessThe ring? Meaningless Lisa's plan? NonsensicalGrace's plan? NonsensicalLuca? Pointless
>>291249280>People pretend the ending is the only problemAt least you're willing to admit you're pretending when you spam about the ending
>>291248560>クラスS isn't made upTrue but it's based. Lesbianism is just a phase
>no new episode >no yuriWhat do I even do?
>>291249481Rewatch Kaguya
>>291248233How so? I am still there.
>>291249500Calm down
>>291248511The script failed because too many cooks were let to meddle despite the vision being restrjctive and they made the stakes too high. Considerimg its shown since her grandfather's times, fading lights bad enough to kill the entire kingdom is too disproportionate to that true love evr going to . The fish gods took pity on Lara with her resolve and freed them all forever. Mari is Jesus, Lara is Jesus, the impermance of all things is buddhist.>>291248560But its not untrue at all. Its a fairly common phenomenon in catholic schools coz you've got a bunch of horny youths of the same sex stuffed together with no one else other than girls/boys or teachers to unleash those hormones. So its either gay/lesbo or age gap. In simpler terms think army or prison where it doesn't matter if they are straight. Or teen boys with fruit. So it being a phase is true coz its just horniness. Not sexual partner preference for life. Problem with woke isthey don't want reality, they want sanitized utopia which is why much of this yuribait rage sounds absolutely bullcrap.
>>291249730>The script failed because too many cooks were let to meddle despite the vision being restrjctive and they made the stakes too highYou're just spamming random nonsense to try to pretend there's something wrong with a perfectly good script and show
>>291249730>true love evr going to .be true love of any kind. Its too much pressure. The normal get a suitable mate to not ruin family legacy would have been easier defined than cursed fish monsters.
>>291249764You're just spamming random nonsense to try to pretend there's nothing wrong with a perfectly terrible script and show
New commentary by Koidehttps://studio-pablog.com/12191/Having said that, I still want to share just one more shot from the final episode!I myself have taken the JR Seta Station platform countless times for school and work.Lala is receding into the distance at the end of the tracks.Mari crosses the linear shadow, and at the dead end, a streetlamp stands like a "missing cross." I won't explain its meaning...Needless to say, the quality of the finished product is outstanding. And it's a shot that holds great significance for me.Strictly speaking, it's not the final shot, but in terms of artistic significance, I think it is the final shot of this series.Hmm...
>>291249875There's no Mari in the pic because only Lara can see her.
>>291249875>I won't explain its meaning...Ok faggot
>>291249875going for world record on fart sniffing over here
>>291249280This>>291249764The schizo writing spamming to any criticism is not spamming? Kek. You sound like one of those desperate fujo girlies defending their faves shitty manga(a certain shonen jump title). Its your homormones dearie, its that unhealthy parasocial otaku copium. Spamming spamming isn't going to get you any relief. Not a negative comment btw, just saying from experience. Imagine me with a single tear in my eye and a hand over my mouth as I fawn over all you having a springtime of youth growth. If you'd seen too many occur you'd be jaded and unfazed by accusations of what you liked being called pseudo-intellectual kinofailure, not get triggered and have melty. Its also since you obviously have dismissive people all around you an haven't found the light. Go find it all you non-red haired non-females.
>>291249875Wow. The negative comments on twitter really got to him. Nobody's denying how artistic the work is, poor guy.
Wait, is Mari actually really dead and it's not a crack theory? Is that a reason Lara acts so strangely?
>>291249925I think for once this one's pretty clear, what with Mari's cross getting bitten in half. The rest, though...
>>291248347Doesn't really fit since she got her royal ring back and can go back to the magical kingdom. It is not like humans cannot go there since Lisa can. But in a vague way the initial premise reminded me of One Piece of all things.
>>291249988>meltyOh hey, thanks for confirming you're a shitposter
>>291249875Every time this man opens his mouth he shows that the show wasn't for the audience but for his own ego
>>291247470Oh, the correct epithet should be troll not spam. Spamming spam is spamming.
>>291249489I already rubbed one out
>>291250127>make anime slop>treat it like post-modern art (shit fart sniffing)>surprised when people dont like your shitrofled
>>291250112Much better. See how you are getting the hang of the correct demographic of this site. >>291250127He wants to be the next Anno methinks
>>291250056Its all about overcoming grief, yes.
>>291250213eva's congratulations ending is still better than whatever garbage this retard went for tho
>>291249875Streetlamp looks more like orthodox cross
>>291250213But you're tourists, not the correct demographic of this site. That's why you only come here to shitpost and you don't even like anime.
>>291250269Lot more fun
>>291249875His commentary is as deep and profound as his anime was
>>291249875
>>291250469Kouta. Kouta-kun is always a good shota name.
>>291250517Kek
>>291250527RIP
>>291250465At least one shitposter will admit to spamming /a/ for no other reason than to spam shitpostsNow all the negative posts about the ending can be properly dismissed
>>291250561"Whatever you wish to have happened to Kouta" - Koide
>>291250591Except majority of the negative comments have nothing shitposty about them. They are pretty clear.
>>291250629Every single one of the negative comments is entirely a shitpost, generally the same five shitposts repeated endlessly by the same people. None of it is genuine, as you admitted, you don't even like anime and only come to /a/ to shitpost.
>>291250591Is this babu's first anime?
Someone remind me why it could only be Lara who could provide the special light? Did her other sisters not have it at all? Did Grace and Rigmor both have the ability because they were twins?
The worst part about Lara is the community. This is the most exhausting, lowest IQ fanbase I have ever seen with zero media literacy. A botched translation had the word “yuri” and suddenly every dyke freak and pervert is clinging to this show specifically for the sex. What the fuck happened to the West? Japanese people aren’t like this.
>>291250751No, that's the point, I've seen the same shitposters do this with other shows so the patterns are all very obvious. Even the buzzwords most of you use have become so familiar that you're not even anonymous at this point.
>>291244620no, care to explain?
>>291245267>the female is an ugly old hag, the male a sensitive young mangrim
>>291250661meds
>>291250798>yuri = sexran out of bait?
>>291250798Producers literally baited every dyke freak and pervert into watching it, anon.
So basically the ending was so bad, that it brought together yuri and antiyurifags. That's kek. Because while we are all agreeing that the ending is bad, we probably think that for wastly different reasons. This show is obviously yuri though, so I as a antiyurifag also dislike the last 2-3 episodes completely, obviously. Why just fixate at the last 6 minutes? Thats dishonest.
>>291250661You can't call what you don't agree with a shitpost just because you don't agree with it.Where is the shitpost element in this critque >>291246910This is straightforward. This is what a shitpost sounds like>>291245889Whereas this is what sarcasm sounds like >>291245938 Should I tag all the ckmments from this thread? Should I add comments from the archive too? You are being hypersensitive.
>>291250959Those are all shitposts. Spam as much as you want, I'm not arguing with tourists like you.
>>291250821Girl, this is 4chan. This is how it always is. Like how reddit has it's infamy and tumblr is full of women writing metaphysical psych essays or whatever they call them. This show is so shit not even Rowan is a hit with with tumblr yumes.
>>291250989You're aping the vocab and then spamming. Wow, meds won't suffice. Go rewatch the show and make a discord circlejerk for Koide. Stream it on disocrd if that helps.
>>291250821stop ruining the internet
>>291251045Being obsessed with tumblr is a newfag thing that started in the 2010s with leakage from /v/ and /pol/ of the normalfags who immigrated to 4chan as anti-SJWs bringing all of these right wing grudges that have no relevance to how 4chan was. You're just a shitposting spammer pretending the show is shit to own the libs because you're life is so utterly empty that fighting /pol/ culture wars on /a/ is the only thing you can do. It's impossible for you to make a post that isn't saturated with the tourist lingo of a shitposter from /vpol/. This is what I mean by none of you really having anonymity, you openly flaunt being tourists and using the same memes here as in your echo chambers there. >>291251093Kill yourself, take as many lethal doses of pills as proxies you use to spam lol
Luca won
>>291250944Because Kota became schrödinger's shadow and Luca self-plagiarized
>>291250821>Even the buzzwords most of you use have become so familiar that you're not even anonymous at this pointSo we all Elon Musk now? The buzzwords have a dictionary site of their own schizo.
>>291251424Yoshiya
>>291251532Lara and Mari's pussy
>>291251147>Using chatgptKek
>>291247341I loved the part where Mari punches Lara in the face. Well deserved.
Lara just fucked another ojisan btw
>>291251147Girl, if you really understood and introspected on the message of this anime you'd realise you will never see the light. Oh, Retirees don't have immature fits over teenage girl animes. C'mon. Also Koide is barely 30, maybe late 20s, he deserves zero fanatic devotion. And everything on current 4chan is sourced from twitter. Start making threads with your ancient baidu or 2chan sources if you want to prove a point about meanies. Your buzzwords and defensiveness, as I would have preferred to be discreet about, reek of tumblr whataboutism. And yeah, sad to say but even the ugly Gendo had tumblr squealing over him. Rowan is like the lowest benchmark for a problematic dad failure.
>>291251564cat
>>291250928On them for being delusional and not seeing how very non gay Mari and Lara’s relationship is desu.
>>291243791>I wish our plot was less shitIt really do be like that.
>>291249875You know, I'd forgive everything if Mari said Sayonara Lara in the end. Or This is not a Sayonara Lara if Lara would eventually return.But she didn't.
>>291247682The moment he was introduced, it was trouble. Luca is a good enough to be a one episode wonder and join Lara's background character friend group. But instead of one episode like most others, he shoves Mari out of her deuteragonist role and half the season down with her.As you noted, he literally has to be forced into the plot. Rght when Lara and Mari's relationship was getting important development, which abruptly stops developing. Lara closes herself off to Mari in favor of continuously getting PTSD panic attacks while dating Luca. Mari is relegated to third wheel status and does nothing besides boxing and losing everything she holds dear. Luca does nothing, since he's a plot device used to show how important the "true love" between Mari and Lara is. And with how it ended, even his role as a plot device was a waste of time.Three entire episodes the Luca arc takes up, and nothing important to the central plot changed because of him. Maybe if he had a personality beyond being highly autistic, it wouldn't be so bad. But really all he was used for was to bring up the actual prince from 200 years ago.
>>291251147>"...started in the 2010s...">"..."because you're life is so utterly empty..."You are a mid 40 oldfag writing paragraphs on /a/ i mean... talking about empty lifes.
>responding to the troll who believes it's really 1 anon with proxies that dislikes the ending, everyone else likes itrofl
>>291250928Where's Luca?
>>291252238where's lara???
>>291246459The endimg is a genius move. It's just the right amount of vague so everyone is arguing about what is true and these debates are hooking new viewers.
>>291252325lmao
>>291250928Aww back when KC were in their "give us money yueinigger" phase :3
>>291246683Even the mermaids don't have sex with each other in canon. They hold hands and rape clams to have babies.
>>291246750And they actually meant to use Mongolian
>>291250989no anon what you are doing is shitposting
>>291250798>Japanese people aren’t like thisNice headcanon. Use an ai autotranslate button.
>>291247341Congrats you now have a butthurt shitposter and schizo troll hijacking everything. Will anyone at least upload the special bluray prize image and the booklet photos in high res?
>>291251915It doesn't even matter. Even if it was supposed to be romantic and they confirmed it in an interview (which they never will), the ending was so frustrating that almost everyone who shipped them doesn't care anymore.
>>291250798>dyke freakAnother phrase for the schizo filter
Ya know this story reminds of western media, an adaptation of the old tale "the Little Mermaid " by disney
>>291249875My god this man's ego could rival Kojima.
>>291252112>Luca does nothing, since he's a plot device used to show how important the "true love" between Mari and Lara is. And with how it ended, even his role as a plot device was a waste of time.This is the dumbest part. They already had Luca as the false lead for Lara's true love and it seems like they pull it off with Mari being Lara's actual true love but no, Lara ends up rejecting true love entirely so Mari is also a false lead and Luca is a second layer of it. How did nobody in the writing room point out what a waste of time it was to make a decoy of a decoy?
>>291253849You'd be hard pressed to find creative types that aren't like that anon.
>>291250823I'd like to teach this dumb fish the intricacies of human intercourse if you catch my meaning
>>291253959Most anime directors come off as pretty humble in interviews. And it's the pretentious ones that tend to fuck up the hardest
>>291253849>Koide: I came up with the concept called "shit ending".
>>291254010You wouldn't a cloaca
>>291254010You're gonna teach her sex ed and about that time of the month?
>>291254143It is clear that he was deeply passionate and cared immensely about this project, right down to the smallest details. He's definitely a great director. That’s why it is so disappointing that it turned out this way and his vision failed to resonate with much of the audience.
>>291254532She probably thinks humans also come from clams desu. She not wrong in a sense.
>>291250208>>make anime slopHis animation team made anime kino, he wrote the shitty ending ruining it.
>>291254801that wasn't meant to say that you shouldn't use anime as your platform when you're a snobby artsy faggot
>>291254843Meh, I love anime so I don't see why not? Every year there are artsy shorts that no one on /a/ watches or knows about. Lara could have been better but there were some issues with the process itself, I still like the concept.
What's so artsy about using emulating Ghibli?
>>291255550lmao'd
Will the novel provide a clearer explanations of things?
>>291249875>I won't explain its meaningWhat a fucking faggot lmao
>>291256016Really hope so
>>291254010>>291254650She'll innocently get you bitten by a clam while you're giving her that villain monologue
>>29125601630 paragraph long luca lara sex scene
>>291249875>I won't explain its meaning...Unironically kind of based.
>>291256517Only if the author comes across as holding information back on purpose to encourage speculation as opposed to not knowing what the meaning is himself like in this case.
>>291256696No I mean based in the second sense. If he started giving excuses "actually it meant x but we didn't have time to show" I would think it's cringe but him being stubborn is pretty based, Idk how to explain it.
>>291256696>not knowing what the meaning is himself like in this case.But you're the only one saying that, you're just making up this bullshit about him not understanding his own work. You're the same shitposting tourist who's just making up bullshit as always.
>>291250839>tfw not born into a species where all women are extremely tall butterfaces
>>291256488You think Luca is a sub?
>>291256016The artist will be cattle proded if either same sex character's panels even look at eachother.
>>291246459It's the ending. They killed the personality of the best character and made her shit and it had no emotional pay-off. It felt forced too, like they felt like they had to make it cryptic and sad because that would it deeper or some shit. Basically 11 1/2 episodes which are hinting at a certain kind of development and happy ending just to go "nope, here is your realistic shit end, accept reality" and have one of the MC be worse off than before.
>>291247469The fact that the animation doesn't look like horseshit alone already makes it better than most other series.
>>291248248If the staff found lesbians icky, Luca should be the main love interest since the start and erase Mari
Let me get this straight, the point of this show was some progressive messaging on how young women should stop hyperfocusing on romance and being pushed by their families into marriage, and instead learn to become independent, get a job and move out on their own?Even leaving aside how questionable and decades out of date something like this is, I couldn't imagine doing a worse job at conveying the message.
>>291259090Yes, also make sure said young woman is a minor, has no legal documents, no education, no connections and almost no job experience.
Mari had to go home to get Gon-chan anyways, so it doesn't make sense to take her boxing gloves with her.
>>291259090Jesus imagine getting something like that from The Little Mermaid. It puts californian writers to shame.
>>291259264Californian writers would make Lara/Mari canon. Except Mari would be butch and black while Lara is fat
>>291259397I'm sure someone already drew those designs on tumbrl
>>291259397Lara would also be a tranny
>>291254575Nope, of late a whole bunch of creators have been getting too frustrated and defensive in their interviews. And talk indiscreetly about fans. Not that there was ever any PR rules but most gave some standard and vague and inoffensive answers. Two I recall of the top of my head are CSM director and one of Horikoshis assistants who got axed for whom things didn't go that well. And there was the case of Gachiakuta. It is, like, social media lets them get worn down with excess anti criticism which they would not usually have seen from the Japanese restrained feedbacks of yore.
>>291259641So more accurate to the authors vision?
>>291259090Don't forget to devote half the show to nothing but those two young women falling in love with each other as a twist on the parental expectations, only for them to decide in the end that they don't actually need each other. Why? I won't really explain...
>>291260246It's Class S. You don't get it for the cultural barrier
>>291259117Yeah I don't get how Lara is supposed to survive on her own, she has no education and her only experience is a part time job at a bakery. Not to mention all the legal problems that come from being an underage ex-mermaid.Only cope I can come up with is Lisa sustaining her but that kind of removes the point of the self independence ending.
>>291259117This is one of those time traveller or isekai character adjusts too well in their new setting tropes. Like, how are they european mermaids from the medieval century who never interacted with humans and yet speak the same tongue as said humans and have similar taste in fashion and flowers. She should be speaking something archaic and having exotic mannerisms. There was this drama called "Legend of the Blue Sea" that followed the premise for a bit where an ancient mermaid who was betrayed the first time comes back to life and meets her prince's reincarnation but she has to learn everything from speaking onwards. Her main communication before was sending mind waves that convey meaning like some alien in animorphs. Even the Rigmor's death scene was a bit similar but it was the prince.
>>291260335Lisa is pretty much that middle daughter who is earning for the entire family but only the golden child gets for giving them some blood transfusion before going off backpacking which was implied in twitter space.
>>291260323Class S has been dead and out of style since the late 2000s. Even Precure has moved beyond that. This is just plain old staff meddling whtere some of them wanted a yuri romance, others didn't, and the execs laid down the law to keep it vague for everyone.
>>291260436Class S seem to be making a comeback. See Awajima Hyakkei
I was told the last thread will the last thread. Anyway Luca and Lara kept dating and breaking up for six months
>>291249730The Japanese version of "lesbianism is just a phase" trope is so old it was originally a subtrope of 'the affair you have for love before your arranged marriage'.Boy meets girl, they both are young and probably betrothed via their parents to someone else even before the narrative starts, they fall in love and have a fling but in the end they both know they have to break it off and do their duty. The oldest of what would become yuri tropes is from that, the girls fall in love while they're in boarding school, have their moment, then have to go do what their family says and get married. It is a youth thing but it's more about doomed whirlwind love than anything modern like them just being horny.
>>291260487That's so funny. There was literally no reason to add that other than as a Fuck You to Lara and Mari shippers. And as byproduct it makes Lara even a bigger cunt for toying with Luca's feelings for her own amusement.
>>291260493Sounds just like a fetish to me good thing Lara said no to yuristein
>>291260487>>291260548https://files.catbox.moe/h1z4qg.mp4Literally a mistranslation only in the English subs. All other subs and the dub script, written by Kinema Citrus, don't say that. In Japanese, he's listing off his complaints about her flakiness.
>>291260811Yuricucks still gaslighting lol. Using Tari tari for for opposite verbs means it's repeated action lol. Stop being retarded learn to read
>>291260811The dub script isn't written by kinema citrus
>>291260811Why would you think a dub is any more legitimate than a sub? The Kaguya dub was full of mistakes with the sub being way more accurate, for instance.
>>291253936There were definitely too many cooks in the kitchen, if what an interview said about the team being locked in a room for 5 hours to write the story by committee is accurate.>date guy because he looks like her abusive ex>realize he isn't her true love>kill and resurrect girl who is her true love>reject her anyways but continue stringing her along for months>continue dating guy sporadically during this time>dump both of them the moment she gets an opportunity to move away in order to find other "true loves" out therePeak committee storytelling. The first six episodes had to have been done in the first hour or two. From there, the fatigue clearly set in, and it shows. And when they got to writing the last paragraph of the story, they must have been out of their minds and just scribbled whatever to call it a day.
>>291260986Last cope because it's elementary level japanese grammer cant blame though the line probably hit more than a plane."Kyū ni tsukiattari, kyū ni wakaretari yūtari.Nankai yatta?"
>>291260060Nah, especially not californian trannies.
>>291249875>Needless to say, the quality of the finished product is outstanding
>>291261104Yes, he's saying everything about her is spontaneous and flip floppy, not that she asked him out multiple times again for no reason. It doesn't even make sense in context, why would she do that and why would he mindlessly accept being dumped a dozen times more when he's complaining about the first time.>>291260986Kaguya was subbed my Netflix, not Crunchyroll who is famous for getting everything wrong in every show they shit out. Kaguya dub also had to change shit for the music, which is never a good idea.>>291260943It is given to the dubbing company by the anime studio and vetted by them. It's better than some likely AIslop subs. The subs also got Lara's reply to Mari about living together wrong, where the Japanese isn't directly translatable without misconstruing something she means ("I meant it" implies a past tense where Lara might have changed her mind, "honto yo" is just a casual reaffirmation of what Mari said, which in context suggests plans to meet again). Shit script, shittier translations.
>>291255479They copied the wrong Ghibli
>>291260355Or maybe she wasn't betrayed but was being hunted for her flesh since it was the prince who saves her. Don't really remember. >>291259090I have a specific problem with the entire held back by family premise because of two things. First that they choose to go with only Lara is super special princess like their mother except her older sisters were all supposed to journey to find true love. It was one of those obvious has to be this way only tropes.It would have been nice to see more about the other sisters. Second that the interpretation of mermaid and human and deep sea fish harmony is that it is only possible only if everyone is humans. This is a tale as old as time and stupid. Doesn't help the great ones are catholic albeit very apt. And sea society a mix of matrilineal and patriarchal at the same time with the princess having agency and no agecy at the same time.
>>291261450>Yes, he's saying everything about her is spontaneous and flip floppy, not that she asked him out multiple times again Holy schizophrenia learn to read how the grammar is fucking used
>>291261576Even this movie was more yuri than Lara
>>291261450Bro came from preddit
>>291260986>Why would you think a dub is any more legitimate than a sub? Crunchyroll openly admits to using Israeli AI to "sub" their shows, at least for the English releases.
>>291261702Okay, but what makes the process of creating a dub script any different? They can have the same issues.
She deserved a better show
>>291260811Even the nips understood Lara and Luca dated on and off during the six months timeskip. You're coping
>>291261668Anne Shirley is more yuri than Lara despite both Anne and Diana end marrying men
>>291261784She deserved better last 5 minutes
>>291261751>Okay, but what makes the process of creating a dub script any different? That's still written and looked over by actual humans, who then have to wait for other humans from the studio to okay it or not. In contrast, the AI shitlations are notoriously never checked for anything, which is the point.
>>291261938> who then have to wait for other humans from the studio to okay it or notYou have no idea how dubbing works look up the dub controversy in maid dragon or now they didn't use any pronoun for kiraras gender
>>291261784She should have dated a better mermaid. One of the blue ones would have been better.
We got robbed of a kino yuri ending.
Maribros...
Nothing is better than a dih
>>291249875>Mari was turned off she didn't even bother to wait until Lara's train was out of view before going home
>>291262157Considering that meeting Lara had objectively ruined her life, I can't blame her.
>>291260493And i'm talking about reality of why the trope isn't untrue since all those things are very realistic the way I understood the trope reading about it on wikis. Also,>Following World War II, the traditional girls' school system was reorganized into coeducational schools, and public interest shifted toward heterosexual romance. >Class S (エス関係) is a historical Japanese cultural and literary phenomenon focused on intense, emotionally devotional, and often platonic "sisterhood" bonds between female students in all-girls schools. It serves as the direct literary precursor and foundational root of modern yuri (girls' love) media.> While the term had historically referred to female–female romantic or quasi-romantic relationships, it increasingly came to be applied more broadly to any works depicting emotionally significant interactions between girls, even in the absence of romantic intentWhile it could be used to try to debate current topics, the original trope conditions just aren't relevant. Queerbait is a easier known trope across global literature that best describes the ending be it subjective or objective since they confessed they left everything upto interpretation. Which is always code for we didn't want to offend anyone or lose funding in the industry. I've seen more straight up queerbait in yuri and yaoi than class s. Also, >than anything modern like them just being hornyHorny has existed even in your from ancient times. Theres more bawdy jokes and euphemisms in ancient records and even in tribal folklore. Like terms such as otaku or fujoshi also have different connotations between the two fandoms but this difference is known. But that beautiful utopian fanfiction otaku have of Japan that it has no vulgarity and slang in its language is simply not true. Manko and octopus sex ukiyoe were the tip of the iceberg. Horny was all people had in the olden days and it was commmonplace till the Meiji era westernization swept things away.
>>291261794Nips even say it is Shiga dialect for dating
>>291261688>brown XitterfagAs always.
>>291261831This sounds like Class S. It isn't Japan only then.>>291262205I wonder if she can box properly. Lara still having her scars has led to a headcanon Mari has one too and since the cross also stabbed through her chest and shoulder she would be affected.
>>291262216>queerbaitIdk, most yuri is literally made for men and most yrifags are men. Actual queers would probably dislike a lot of yuri and yaoi since it's rapey and has a lot of couples with huge age gaps which would be considered pedophilia by those groups.
>>291262397>Idk, most yuri is literally [CONCENTRATED BULLSHITTERY]
>>291262216Nah man yuribait/queerbait is nothing but western projection. The idea that these things have vanished from Japanese culture and their fiction since your very narrow reading of an already narrow Wikipedia summary is simply ludicrous. Especially since even your wiki text concedes that the concept became more broad ages ago. This stuff is firmly rooted in modern Japanese literary tradition and trying to interpret it through the eyes of western fandom jargon is horseshit.
>>291262397Look up the demographics of yuri it's 50-50 between men and women and most of the women are queer because straight women like yaoi
>>291262603By most yuri I mean everything that counts as yuri, including doujinshi, not just manga.>>291262644>Look up the demographics Where? Post some proof.>e women are queeThen they are the kind of queer otaku that are ok with the content and don't associate with the lgbtq groups and all of that shit(also if you are talking about jap women in particular, that's a whole different beast)
>>291262397Not always though. Some shojo yuri like this aren't for the male gaze. And if Class S is to be believed it wasn't all for the male gaze. There has to be an ecchi for it to be male gaze. Stupid sisterhood stuff is not really their thing. Something like Nani tabeta won't get fujoshis going either. In fact theres this seinen that goes into how bara was for closeted gays. Nowadays quite a few yaoi is closer to that bara.
>>291262710>Not always though. Some shojo yuri like this aren't for the male gaze.Sure I agree. > There has to be an ecchi for it to be male gaze.Nah, it can be made for men without ecchi.>Stupid sisterhood stuff is not really their thing True, men like more personal kisses and stuff like that . My point is that equating yuri readers with modern western queers is a bit dumb.
>>291262784Fuck, didn't meant to greentext the last part>Stupid sisterhood stuff is not really their thing True, men like more personal kisses and stuff like that . My point is that equating yuri readers with modern western queers is a bit dumb.
>>291262644The Japanese have a different view on straightness than the west. For them, even if a woman spends most of her recreational time eating out every women at a lesbian bar, she can consider herself "straight" because she has a boyfriend and she said "lol this isn't serious, no homo" afterwards while pulling pubic hairs out of her teeth.
>>291249875It took me like a day of hitting f5 every so often to get the blog to load, like it's an old school website that was overloaded.It's pretty bad. The whole blog is like that where Koide clearly thinks he made something great. I don't look forward to any of his future projects when he's delusional.
>>291243791I wonder if they were ever going to explain why he looks like a clone from a dude that lived in another continent 200 years ago.
I wonder what the schizo is going to say when manga has them going full yuri. If anyone even cares by then since show was a complete flop. While lesbian villainess topped the charts this season.
>>291262823It's not the Japanese but rather the west. There is a reason yaoi is 20 times bigger than yuri
>>291262883It's just bait like everything involving him.
>>291262709It's literally in Wikipedia and I'm specifically talking about the Japanese I don't think the western libratards reads manga anyway they just make posts
>>291262883Maybe it made sense in the first draft
>>291262833The article consists mostly of commentaries on the art and special effects used in different episodes of the show, rather than the plot. What do you consider delusional about this? I agree with him that they did a great job from a technical standpoint.
>>291263074From what I remember it changed with Yuru yuri and now it's mostly men
>>291263020>yaoi is 20 times bigger than yuriMore like 5 times and in literature only, in anime and games yuri is way more popular. In the west cheap smut novels for women also dominate charts. And yuri popularity is growing every year while yaoi is stagnant for decades.
>>291262623>Nah man yuribait/queerbait is nothing but western projectionAnd I am a western man, discussing an anime in a western basketweaving forum and am talking about universal concept of boarding/single sex catholic schools. It is so well known and is quite similar in the army, in prisons, in monasteries. The same concept existed in western media as well like above Anne of Green Gables. Emily Dickinson, maybe. Ancestral anecdotes. Who cares if you want to pretend the director has some niche japanese cultural aspects like a samurai. Orientalism and delusions about the Japanese don't change they are very ordinary humans and not all that different.
>>291263190No it's closer to 50/50 but still with a bit more women.
>>291263185He has an animation director's or what you'd call a cinematographer's perspective when he needs to have a director's perspective on things. The work itself reeks of that shit, and the blog is like me mainlining confirmation bias.The AD concerns himself with the quality of individual scenes and their drawings. The director concerns himself with the whole work.
I can't believe it's up to the illustious writer of Citrus, the Mexican soap opera of yuri, to fix the ending because Koide is a self-fellating hack.
>>291263215Still waiting a yuri show ever getting nominated for anime of the year
Retards always generalize. There are some yuri series that have 60% male fans and some that have 70% female fans. Today those old terms barely even matter. There are shonen series with 2/3 female readers for fuck's sake.
>>291263332Nominated where? By who? There is a million different polls. We already had years where yuri was the top selling show and G-witch was easily the most profitable anime of the year.
>>291262805>My point is that equating yuri readers with modern western queers is a bit dumbYou're the one doing it. i'm talking of why Class S by itself is not inherently unrealistic. So historically it was personal and true. In the modern times with changed society like the difference between Nikolai's times and Luca's times, "but it is Class S" can't be kept being used as an explanation for Sayonara Lara because then the entire meaning and context has been taken out. LGBTQ may be frowned upon in conservative Japan but it isn't illegal criminally. Heck theres an implication of luca and Yoshiya.
>>291263347Retards think porn watcher men will watch yuri because they watch lesbian porn. Most of them don't watch anime
>>291263442>We already had years where yuri was the top selling showLike what?
>>291263245>soijakNta but you are a western faggot, not a man.
>>291263331And people still wonder if manga will be yuri LOL. She will fix the ending and add some rape.
>>291263331She won't do shit any differently.
>>291263245It's incredibly boring to me to see people make a false equivalence with this shit only to bring up gay western fandom crap where it is irrelevant. This stuff has over a century of unique Japanese gestation from the 1920s, through shoujo in its formative years, and on and on. They aren't superficial differences and painting everything in the same colors in your mind makes you blind.
>>291263074Ah ok and if you are talking about the nips they are not like the modern western queer “community”
>>291263190Himedanshi are into yuri for the healing factor. CGDCT and the fluffy, low drama romance works are their go-tos. It cleanses the soul, as they say.The more spicy shit is for women. It doesn't matter if said women consider themselves straight, lesbian or bisexual. They read it all anyways. Much like how most women who watch porn watch lesbian porn.
>>291263484Don't tell him why jjk is so popular
>>291263484
>>291263519Already coping. Cute.
>>291263601>9kWeak-ass year.
>>291263545>Much like how most women who watch porn watch lesbian porn.Most visual porn is made for men, so women don't have a lot of good options if they want to watch. Which is why more women prefer to read erotica. They have WAY more options.
>>291263331I hope everyone is ready to write their apology letters to Saburouta.
>>291263626>s-she'll totally give me my gay ending trust me bro!There's no cope that's bigger than this. God this shit really mindbroke you faggots huh
>>291263601Um you do you know because of streaming this number don't mean much? I mean there is no shounen in this list you know?
Did everyone watch the official music video after the final episode, as was advised on their Twitter? It makes the ending slightly more tolerable and more hopeful. https://youtu.be/phupn0z3Xuw?si=i_Tj_veQXrthXFQy
>>291263477>You're the one doing it.Idk but you were the one thaf mentioned queer shit and now lgbtq as if the western communities are the same as the jap ones when it’s obviously not true>but it is Class S" can't be kept being used as an explanation for Sayonara LaraI’ve never claimed that but the writer of the series is literally a woman that probably at least partially has those beliefs regarding lesbianism being a phase, which is obvious even in her live action series.
>>291263678Fags proving everyday why they are abnormal
>>291263684Shonenshit rarely sold a lot of discs. Physical sales declined but it still reflects trends.
>>291263691The ending was fine as it is not everyone isn't like yuricucks to trust a translated interview for a show to be y*ri
>>291263678Yeah they gave this series to a famous yuri writer for no reason.
>>291263726It doesn't reflect shit it's the same type do people buy disc most of the time it has nothing to do with trends. Chainsaw man sold like 1100 in its first week
>>291263766Just like they gave the rights to write the novel to a FFM author, it doesn't matter you coping retard.
>>291263751Luca also lost you retard. Everybody lost. It's completely retarded 5 minutes that's sad for no reason.
>>291263790CSM anime was a legendary failure that almost killed the director's career.
>>291263834The director does not matter, the Reze movie made 200 million dollars, and its tweet is the most liked anime-related post on Twitter (latter X).
>>291263834It broke even and made more than enough engagement for them to make a movie
>>291263684Ok have streaming numbers.
>>291262394Anne of the Green Gables was a big influence for Class S
>>291263766The director was also a Yuri director three months ago
>>291263881>>291263897Merch and manga did well, anime was a complete disaster.
>>291262644Most Japanese lesbians only consume BL and don't care for yuri
>>291263909man do I still need to watch this
>>291263909Lols it's the same shit frieren beating jjk in these steaming ranking lol. These people are genuinely retarded they really trust this bs
>>291263909Where is it?
>>291263928Said no one ever.
>>291263534You're thinking of straight nip otakus and gen X heisei nips.
>>291263909>anilabLmao
>>291263987
>>291263975>2 yuri shows + 1 yuribait in top 5 only beaten by isekai slopWhat are you trying to say?
I'm at the part where Grace is dissolving and Lisa is speculating. Why'd she wake Rowan with her last light? He is the worst choice.
>>291263992Nope. Even lesbian women that write yuri are nothing like the modern lgtbq slop. Those fags literally complaing about all the age gaps and shit like that.
>>291264037Damn this nigger can't even count lmao
>>291264026>some retard on XLOL his previous work was a het romance.
>>291264045*lesbian jap women
>>291263519Manga and LN adaptations very commonly have major differences. Even if not, I sincerely doubt she'll devote like 5 pages to the epilogue like the anime devoted 5 minutes at the very least.
>>291263442Why do you guys always reply to the schizo that does the "yaoi vs yuri" bait? he posts the same thing every time and people still take him seriously
>>291264037>isekai is saving anime from homofaggotsexuals...based?
>>291264038I think she was trying to attack Rowan. Everyone starts waking up because she's dead and her constant magic is why they were asleep.
>>291264057Yeah x is full of retards the same reatards who are complaining on every offcial post. You said no one said he is a Yuri director well someone now said.
>>291264007>physical sales disagree with me so they don't matter!!!>polls disagree with me so they don't matter!!!>streaming charts disagree with me so they don't matter!!!Baby will never admit he's wrong. This is pointless.
>>291263975Interesting to note how yuri is still popular even if the Epstein files showed yuri is an elite genre.
>>291263484Kaguya BDs have sold over 100k copies and is the most profitable anime of the year by leagues. It even returned to theaters and sold out again, it's a huge phenomenon in Japan and is getting loads of people into yuri. I've seen so many artists start drawing IroKagu/Yachi as their first yuri ship because they liked them in the movie so much.
>>291263947You usually can't get outed as being a lesbian if you mask it by living vicariously through cuteboys.Usually.
>>291264151Now the schizo will claim Kaguya is actually not yuri.
>Call out the yaoi vs yuri baitposting>immediately spams two more postsYet curiously this faggot never talks about hetfags
>>291264155Lesbians are weird. They claim to not like men but they're obsessed with cocks. Western lesbians refuse to watch lesbian porn because it's unrealistic but they watch gay porn instead.
>>291264151I like how her butt jumps
>>291264090There is plenty of yuri isekai too.
>>291264151Kaguya is moeshit and it's popular because otakus love vtubers these days. Even the director know it so it was originally going to be a boy meets girl but the director changed his mind because vtubers are supposed to be virgins and change it to female friendship
>>291263601Is this an Ai summary?
>>291264178
>>291264206The only one with an obsession over penises is (You), anon.
>>291264234>moeshitMore like moekino
>>291264178>the schizoYou mean Kaguya director?
>>291264151Any source on that? Wikipedia shows it made like 16 million in the box office, which isn't all that impressive.
>>291264271It's impressive when the audience is 100% male otaku
>>291264271Google it. It crosses 3 billion yen. It's the most profitable adaptation of Kaguya legend in history.
>>291264249Lol lesbian toy stores are filled with dildos and they frequently talk about having a penis envy. Most dykes also had sex with men prior coming out as a dyke. They clearly don't mind the cock, but the man is too much.
Rocd
>>291264296>3 billion yenSo 19 million dollars, still nothing all that amazing. The Ghibli adaptation as of now made more.
>>291264249I don't see gay men watching lesbian porn
>>291264301Dykes are worst of all the lgtvs at least gays don't think about pussy all day
>>291264212Those are shitty isekai, the good ones top the charts.
>>291264258He just said stupid shit so it won't get banned in some places. Every official adaptation is yuri.
>>291264296There've been countless Kaguya adaptations through time. It's hard to say it's the most succesful
>>291264364No the shit ones top the charts. Like Mushoku.
>>291264365This is cope.
Kaguya had both yaoi and yuri in the official LN ending. The pedo brother fucked trap bussy and even put a ring on it.
>>291264365>The director always intended them to be lesbians. He told me in a dream
>>291264045>headcanonThis nitpicking is getting old now since all apps use AI autotranslate. Read some real stuff. You'll be disillusioned.
>>291264390Mushoku is AOTD. Whatever gay sludge you watch will always seethe from its shadows.
>>291264395>>291264399Latest official materials are the latest canon. And reviews mean nothing. No matter how much you cope.
>>291264362What about boypussy? Also many fruity gay men fuck their girlfriends but they still label themselves as gay
>>291264409You are the one that should read shit. Are you claimimg that the western lgbtq don’t complain about “pedo” stuff in anime/manga all the fucking time?
why is there one guy crying about 3dpd lesbians on the anime board
>>291264434This is your 2nd cope.
>>2912642713 billion yen is impressive for a niche straight to streaming movie. And 100k BDs in 2026 is legitimately abdsolutely absurd.
>>291264415
Interesting how their was a sudden uptick in broken english antiyurifagging out of the blue.
>>291264415Mushoku is trash for 3rd worlders like Solo Leveling. It's not even in top5 for Kadokawa this year. Merch sales are pathetic. It's only big on streaming services where legions of poorfags watch it.
>>291264455Kaguya isn't niche. At least not in Japan.
>>291264409A yuri female mangaka literally got bullied for some age gap shit, these 2 groups are very little like each other
>>291264093But why? She should have killed him when he first becmae powerless. Instead she wakes him up. Why didn't he die in episode 1 btw I didn't that either?
>>291264480It's only followed by male neets. That's a niche. Contrary to popular believe, most Japanese people have works and social lifes
>>291264479Sure sure, your tears are delicious.
>>291264234>blah blah blah cope cope copeYeah that's why all the nips are tweeting about finding out about the gay bros, Roka's cuckoldry, and cougar timeskip Iroha, it's the moe vtuber stuff.
>>291264479To be fair, Kadokawa admit that isekai isn't selling anymore but they have no idea of what to do next. That's the fucking state of the industry
>>291264447Your only cope is one interview. Movie, novels and manga are obviously yuri. And you will keep crying about it for years just like with G-witch.
>>291264464Deeply ironic image posted by a guy who's shilling homofaggot slop.
>>291264526That's joking. We used to joke a lot about anime characters being gay when I was a kid. Nothing changed
>more retarded fights*yawn*
>>291264541This is your 3rd cope.
Luca impregnated Lara
>>291264446Because they are big names in anime fandom. Majority fandoms comprise of the mentally ill.
I impregnated Luca
>>291264516Your cope is delicious. Forget top5 this garbage couldn't even make top10.
>>291264541Where's the kiss? Where's the love confession? Women jokes don't count, I mean actual romance. Unless you believe in no romance yuri
>yuri hater is also a Mushoku saarThis explains so much.
>>291264618Nta but this and the “media literacy” smile screenshot are hilarious. You should analyze every frame.
>>291264480Compare it to Chiikawa, legitimately the biggest anime movie of the year, which is at 16 billion and has only been out 2 months.
>>291264596I don't follow
Mushoku will get high-quality sequels every year while your gay garbage will be cancelled after S1 haha
>>291264618>dude says something stupid under pressure once>shitposter keeps bringing it up for years
kaguya bros, laratroons wish they had YURI like ours! we fucking WONNED!
>>291264608Mt fans are yuricucks of isekai
>>291264676Yuri villainess and yuri mangakas this season already have S2 confirmed.
>>291264490A josei mangaka killed herself after getting bullied for trying to establish creative control over her work's adaption. Apples and oranges.Age gap is still rife in Hollywood.
>sister grooms bamboo toddler into being her wife>brother grooms 14 year old boy into being his wife(male)The fuck is wrong with this family?
>>291264608Your arbitrary cope list does not account the fact that MT trends every sunday in Japan. Even the westerners who whine about the pedo stuff are loving it, that's how good it is.
>>291264681This but unironically
>>291264657Chiikawa is for children and young girls with active social lifes. Kaguya is for virgin men in their 40s or 50s
>>291264694all I know about MT is that I keep hearing about it in yuri and adjacent threads for some reason
>>291264592Leo impregnated Lara
>>291264718Everything trends these days.
>>291264679>Libratard international mistranslation for goodbye Lara It's yuri!!!>Director says no Yuri for kaguya He said stupid things because of pressure!!!!
>>291264707>Yuri villainess>he hasn't read the latest volumes>he doesn't know what will happen in S2Lmao you didn't even watch the show.
>>291264679I don't reward cowardice. Rewarding cowardice is the reason why nobody respectr yuri in Japan and Lara had such a lackluster ending
>>291264664Kek
>>291264718>arbitrary cope listIt's the official revenue list directly from Kadokawa.
>>291264744Epstein link
>>291264618Guel will be confirmed as Suletta's secret husband any day now, Arjun.
>>291264748No, no it doesn't.
>>291264709>A josei mangaka killed herself after getting bullied for trying to establish creative control over her work's adaption. I know and I think that’s sad.>Age gap is still rife in Hollywood.Lol, when that happens you see 1000000 people complain it. Yuri manga can have girls in middle school date adults, it’s something that would never fly with certain people. Trying to claim that a yuri mangakas are part of the modern western lgbtq slop while the same group would absolutelly hate a lot of their works is retarded.
>>291264765I bet you don't even know japanese.
>>291264716>pedo sister>pedo brother
>>291264580So true
>>291264716Otakus love traps. It doesn't count as gay. It should count but Japan's been coping with their attraction to drags since the feudal era
>>291264804Is this your last cope? Keigetsu will get impregnated by the Dragon Qi. Read the novels lil guy.
>>291264856Even a retard won't say inept villaness is Yuri
>>291264796If it wasn't for LGBT western activists, no doubt Sunrise would already release a manga or a LN with a Guelsule end considering how passionate are Japanese women about that pairing
>>291264676>calling it Mushoku>hahaLarper AND brown twitterfag, could these threads get any worse
>>291264856>Read the novels lil guy.You didn't.
>>291264769>nobody respectr yuri in JapanLmao, we are getting a lot of yuri adaptations nowadays, more than in the past.
>>291264445You are saying nips don't. I have seen so many talk wokseshit. See some WHA, Dunmeshi or Kamuy fans. Even two doujin mangakas. They reblog about these. Did you miss the whole boycott and discourse over pedos back at work. Those weren't only west. Some western ones were al in support and forgiving like nips used to be.
>schizo is now pretending he read all the Inept Villainess novels only to shitpost that it's not yuri
>>291264676>hahaGetting some strong thirdie vibes here
>>291264935The term "no romance yuri" exist for a reason but you never heard of "no romance yaoi"
>>291264892>muh brownYou do know that Japan is the 2nd country in terms of the quantity of X users, right? And whenever a new MT episode airs, it trends in #1 on Japanese X.
>>291264963Are you implying Inept Villainess is yuri?
>>291264938>You are saying nips don'tNope, I am saying that yuri mangaka and not compatible with lgbtq retards because of >>291264800. Yes there are woke braindead tards in japan as well but that ahs nothing to do with what I’ve said. Also the pedo stuff was about anime/manga, not real life so that’s a weird strawman
>>291264970MT fans don't have jobs or real life friends so they have a lot of time to retweet
>>291264930God you're so stupid.
>>291264798Even Lara trended after every episode and it's not like this shit was making waves to begin with.
>>291264800Pretending it's still 1999 and Japan hasn't become sloppy and westernized with the Reiwa generation is pure cope. Not even going into other industries. And Hollywood still does numbers no matter how much loud complaints seem to make it seem like a huge number of antis exist.
>>291264891Yup anon, your based het ship in the 4-year-old yuri anime is being censored by the woke libtards in California, just like your chudtubers told you.
>>291265021>MT fans [headcanon]Now you're losing it.>>291265036Lara's last episode aired at the same time as MT and MT dwarfed it into oblivion.
>>291265038Another retarded strawman? Read my post again. It’s about lgbtq retards being against the freedom of yuri mangaka.> And Hollywood still does numbers no matter how much loud complaints seem to make it seem like a huge number of antis exist.Name the last Hollywood mainstream movie that had a 14 years old girl kiss a 20+ years old man. Do it faggot.
Kaguya is yuri.Lara is not yuri.
>>291265011Same people had posts on criticising fiction, research it. Jadugar fandom has some too wnining about the protagonits.
>>291264340>t. Chandler Bing
>>291265112Thank you based God.
Why are nip yurifags such cucks
>>291265304They mean this. Lara was photobombing originally. What we've got is better.
>>291265304They think parting on a train endings are the most romantic shit ever. It's what happens when your society is as sexless as possible.
>>291265415> when your society is as sexless as possible.I wouldn’t say this when the west is getting there as fast as possible. Look at gen z lmao.
>>291265478Japan doesn't have a gen z.
>>291246499Hmmm... sweetie... yuri can only be enjoyed by 100% heterosexual men.If you're into men, you cannot be into yuri. Simple as that.
>>291265304Years of getting yuribaited and fucked by anime originals has made them such battered bitches.
>>291264891>considering how passionate are Japanese women about that pairingJust like how you say gcucks was what Sunrise was waiting for in your other copypasta shitposts?
Guel won
>>291264891>If it wasn't for LGBT western activistsI thought Western people were irrelevant as far as anime was concerned.Anyway, if they were that powerful, Sayonara Lara wouldn't have ended like it did.
I fixed the ending.
>>291266460The only way the ending could have been saved is if mari jumped into the train to kiss lara, cut to a pov of someone else on the train to show shes making out with no one cause Mari is a ghost.
>>291266460Everyone watching this show preferred Mari to Lara so she should go and marry her boxing rival, then send Lara a photo of them in bed.
>>291266460I feel like they were really banking on the audience liking Lara more than they did Mari
>>291255550true
Yuri never wins in anime originals
>>291265022No matter how hard you cope nobody cares about dudes in that series. Nobody.
>>291266723Utena
>>291266568Mari has several boxing rivals. The one she fought in the finals has some big dyke energy to her. I think in terms of karma, Mari should be rewarded with a lesbian harem of rivals turned wives.
Seeing art of mari wearing a new cross necklace or a repaired version of her old one is incredibly funny.... Imagine trying to sit the artist down and explain to them what the personification of lara's love destroying the representation of christianity means. Like do I need to explain the entire human history of how the church has treated gays first?
>>291267341Doesn't mean anything.
>>291267341she keeps it as a secular momento
>>291267341She already has a new necklace or has somehow fixed her old one. When Lara enters the train, you can see a string around Mari's neck. Also, Mari's family's religiousness, though not mentioned much, was portrayed in a positive way. Mari is also associated with cross symbolism, her selfless love, and the fact that she literally sacrifices herself and dies for Lara, but gets resurrected like Jesus.
>>291266588Well, Lara is an unofficial Disney princess and women fucking love Disney princesses. The problem is that women wanted Lara to get the prince, Luca, but they only dated for six months
>>291266011After Bandai made the open to interpretation statement, a Japanese lesbian activist protested on a Bandai meeting so it's not just westerners
>>291267341>destroys keepsake of her mother's love>heh take that christcucksReally anon?
>>291267679For every woman that liked Luca like 50 liked Mari. Women are romancefags first and husbandofags second.
>>291267796I don't count trans women as women
1/3The No Child Left Behind Act has had dire consequences on media literacy for America’s zoomers….The ending is really fucking simple to interpret if you have any sort of knowledge on the original source material of The Little Mermaid and it’s themes and an IQ above 80.The entire theme & basis of SayoLara is this: “It is better to have loved and lost then to have never loved at all.” When Grace says to love freely and live by love rather than the laws she’s saying that love shouldn’t come with any expectations, that simply the act of loving someone should be fulfilling enough regardless of reciprocation. In SayoLara “true love” knows no race or gender, or even expectation of reciprocation, it simply exists as the purest emotion possible that makes life worth living simply for the very FEELINGS the other person conjures up in you. Once you start expecting anything more out of the person you love is when you fail at love.This is the entire premise of the original Little Mermaid novel, the Mermaid disappears into sea foam because her love remains unrequited, it is based on Hans Christen Anderson’s direct experiences with heartbreak as a gay man living in the 18th century.Which yes means SayoLara is in fact real yuri and not just bait, the love Lara feels for Mari is romantic, that’s how it and the concept of true love in general is framed in the show, Mari is Lara’s ROMANTIC true love, and SayoLara being yuri is a direct reference/homage to Hans Christen Anderson being a queer man himself.
>>2912678252/3Lara’s trauma & resentment towards humans comes from her past bad experience with the previous Prince she fell in love with, her love ultimately remained unrequited just like it did for the original Little Mermaid in the novel and this traumatized her greatly, which is symbolized metaphorically by the dagger of her heart. So she’s afraid of opening up her heart to another and truly falling in love again which is why she keeps denying her very real feelings for Mari and forces herself to try and fall in love with Luca. Both because she’s afraid of rejection again and her love hurting Mari and ultimately killing her because it’s selfish and seeks to consume her, Luca therefore is the “safe” option for lack of a better term.But even though Lara THINKS her light is selfish, her light is still different from the rest of the mermaids because she’s the only one out of the able to love completely selflessly and put her loved one’s well-being above her own. Meanwhile mermaids can only love selfishly with expectations, both concerning reciprocation and how they can use the one they love for their benefit like some sort of utility.Lara was already different from them because even with the betrayal she felt concerning Nikolai’s rejection she still couldn’t bear to consume his soul in response, and her epiphany with Mari in episode 12 with the declaration of “I don’t need true love, I just want to live in the same world as YOU” is her finally allowing herself to discard and be free of the expectation of requited, reciprocal love, it’s enough to simply just love the other person without expecting anything in return.It’s this sacrifice and selfless true love that ends up reviving Mari and turning Lara human permanently for good.
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>>291267825>>2912678463/3Now with that being said there are a dozen different ways you can interpret Lara’s attitude towards Mari in the ending:1. She literally SACRIFICED and threw away her love for Mari because she knows her possessive love will hurt her and she’s currently not in a healthy place to love due to not having fully recovered from her past trauma, so she distances herself from Mari in order to protect her from herself, this can be represented metaphorically by her heart literally breaking and scattering when she declares that she doesn’t need “true love” (i.e. Mari’s reciprocal feelings), it’s enough for her to simply exist in the same world as her.2. She was literally born anew and “born again” like in Christian theology (which the show also likes to keep referencing) and is not the same Lara as before that was in love with Mari, since just like her previous life before her she ultimately turned into seafoam (represented again, by her heart scattering) and sacrificed/exchanged her life for Mari, but her selfless act of love was rewarded and she was reborn as a true human being. (Note the show’s other quote that “we are born once to exist, the other to truly live.”) Rather than the theory of Mari being dead, what if it’s really Lara? Or Lara as we knew her at least? Hence the title “Sayonara Lara?” (Which is a reference not just for the fact that she leaves Shiba but that the Lara we all knew literally died and here in her place is standing an entirely new person who no longer loves Mari)3. It’s actually meant to be a happy ending (judging from the post-release official pictures of Lara & Mari talking on the phone & Kobe being her destination where she can learn to bake a cake to fulfill her promise to Mari) and Lara and Mari are in fact officially together as a couple, it’s just directed weird in order to dramatically frame & put tension to Lara’s final face reveal as a true human.
tl;dr
>>291267873>>291267846>>291267825Nice cope but the producer already confirmed Lara and Mari are like college friends that lose contact and eventually marry other people
Luca came inside Lara countless times during those 6 months
>>291267705>so it's not just westernersThe post I was replying to says, and I quote:>LGBT western activists>western
>>291268008Canon
>>291267824Most women aren't incels that project their ideology onto fictional characters either which is why they don't care.
>>291264891>If it wasn't for LGBT western activists, no doubt Sunrise would already release a manga or a LN with a Guelsule end considering how passionate are Japanese women about that pairingWhy are you lying and larping? Laugue is the most popular Guel ship with women by a mile and in fact they were the ones who got the original Lara/Mari treatment in their ending, and even the climax of their arc has Lauda almost killing Guel because his feelings for him are just too overwhelming, sound familiar?
>>291267341>heretic too stupid to realize that the fish is also a Christian symbol, and is older than the cross anywaysSurprising to no one.
>>291267996>Nice cope but the producer already confirmed Lara and Mari are like college friends that lose contact and eventually marry other peopleHeadcanon, he literally said the ending was “up for interpretation.” (Using those exact words yes).
Yurifags never win
>>291268928What is >Love Live>Bang Dream>Girls Band Cry>Ruri no HousekiAND Kore Kaite Shine that had S2 just announced?
>>291269128jawa
>>291269128>Ruri no HousekiNot yuri at all
Luca after story soon
>>291267996It's so funny how EOPs cling to mistranslations.
Freme
Another anime original that bites the dust
>>291245057
Ojisans won
>Not yuri at a-
>>291269876Cute ojisan onaholes
>>291269876wow, this is literally nothing
>>291269876The bar for yuri is so low.
>>291269922Based and oldpilled
>>291269962...when you are a Filipino.
What's going on here?
>>291270504>>291270427>>291269922>>291227610 >>291270864Here's what's going on here
>>291270945Flip with their yaoi fantasies
>>291248092
From flips to people named Johns to... butterflies?
>>291271300It is not people named John.We know who you are John Hayabusa.
Johnny lost
The self-gaslighting is impressive
>>291271333As always
>>291271426I heard you like Toy Story.
AIdor/u/fag lostAs always from the Failed King
>>291232712I heard you mistook this one as your boyfriend
If I post something /tv/, will he get mad about it?
>>291271521Basically, he thinks every post is made from his archnemesis. He'll get mad at anything now
>>291271521What do you intend to post? A fatso which matches the FAFA's BMI?
Novel When?
>>291269876Nacchan lacks critical information.If she's not careful, Ruri will make her her other bitch.
>>291272212They're all ojisan bitches anyway
>>291271426The Repetitive Flip Lingo.
