end it about 10 or 15 years ago, it was foiled by its own popularity and author ego

use AI to redraw the manga down to 200 chapters

>>291277125
I'm pretty happy with it as is

>>291277125
Stop introducing so many damn new characters. Some of the main characters barely get their own screentime. I miss the old adventure feeling of the crew exploring a new area and interacting with each other. But now every single fucking arc involves some arbitrary way to split up the crew so that they can individually run into every new key character in the arc.

>>291277202
new characters are the least of its problems the fact you keep bringing up that one specific thing is very concerning about your ability to critical think
the plot is recycled
the character interactions and growth have stagnated
the most interesting thing about the world was replaced by magic ki punch harder

>>291277245
>new characters are the least of its problems
Bullshit. Most people complain about the length, and the arcs wouldn't be so long if they didn't introduce 20 new characters that each get their own fight.

>the arcs are recycled
Who gives a fuck. The bones of most arcs may be similar, but the soul of good one piece is character interactions and emotional weight, which can happen with or without the same overarching arc plot being repetitive. That being said, even post time skip, only dressrosa and wano have had the typical one piece formula, yet most people can't stand time skip one piece, because it's just thousands of new characters every year.

>>291277318
And to elaborate, by "typical one piece formula" I am referring to an entire island/country being at the mercy of a villain, then the strawhats come along and meet a resident of the island who is particularly oppressed by the villain, and they get a flashback to show how their family or whatever gets killed by the villain, then luffy saves the whole island at the last second with a big punch.

Punk hazard had a little bit of that, but it was setting up the entire smile saga. Whole cake didn't have that at all, it was purely an infiltration arc. egghead didn't have that, it was a lore dump with some fight scenes. Yet these arcs that don't strictly follow the typical arc formula are still rarely rated among the best one piece arcs.

>>291277125
No haki, end it a few years after the time skip, make sure main characters and other previous relevant characters get enough screen time, stop introducing so many characters, stop using retcons,stop with backstory slop,no gear 5.

>>291277125
Let the damn plot progress. There's no need to drag it out by fragmenting every single subplot into tiny pieces (THAT thing -> silhouette -> thing appears -> thing finally does something). This approach is the true reason this manga has been running for 30 years, not the quantity of the subplots. You could trim so much fat by not making every boring thing into a mystery that must have a dramatic reveal.

>>291277245
>the fact you keep bringing up that one specific thing is very concerning about your ability to critical think
nigger what? it's like the first mention in the thread

another thing about haki is how it has the concept of how it is manifested willpower yet character with high willpower do not have it anyways, basically lying to the audience to what it is (a mana/sp bar)

with the logic that the story tells you, it doesn't make sense that Nami doesn't have observation haki being one of the most observant characters in the series, it doesn't make sense that Usopp doesn't have armament haki when he takes huge beating and just survives showcasing a strong will to live yet he doesn't have it

this isn't a problem in other series that are honest about their own version of haki like in Dragon Ball, everyone has ki, Bleach, everyone has reiatsu

>>291277125
Scrubbing the live action from the internet ought to fix it

>>291277719
I’ve seen you complain about the same non issue in every one piece discussion thread having a million characters has never been one pieces problem

These threads are so fucking pathetic. You can tell they're made by other Shonen cucks still mad and insecure as fuck One Piece gets praised while slop they like doesn't.

>>291277125
remove armament haki

The biggest problem is that every arcis literally 1:1 the same
>MCs arrive
>Meet the villain and his/her servants
>Defeat the servants
>Defeat the villain
>MCs leave
>Repeat for 1000+ chapters througout 30+ years

>>291277125
Remove Nika
Remove Imu
5 elders are the Leaders of the WG
There is no el Hermano, Shanks is a twist antagonist.

Tell the whole story in 700 chapters.

>>291278437
>Remove Nika
>Remove Imu
How are either of these negatives to the story?

>>291278281
take your meds, like actually

>>291278437
>5 elders are the Leaders of the WG
this guy gets it

the world goverment was better as an oligarchy, having a king is retarded and as if we needed yet another monarchal structure in this world, so much for world building

>>291278437
>Shanks is a twist antagonist.
>The Marines/Elder are the actual rulers of the world, no Imy, no Knights of God, the throne is actually empty
>Shanks want to get the throne by bloodline right.

>>291277186
Same, only thing I'd change is the anime going back to weekly so we get more opportunities for fanservice.

>>291278437
this but also remove haki and stop splitting the crew

>>291278437
>>291278710
Fucking this

All islands require a strawhat to fight a dedicated person, we haven't had one of those since Enis Lobby. Wano should've had this but it was 90% the one of the monster trio beating someone down then a 2nd strawhat cleaning up.

First: Get rid of Haki it reduces all fight to just who has better/more Haki, That has been the biggest issues since it was introduced devil fruits and complex tactics and plans are meaningless, when the answer is just use more Haki and win.

Second focus on the crew not the villains, Post Timeskip it always been about villains and what they are doing not what the Crew is doing. This is the big reason Wano is so bad the Strawhat's have no reason to actually fight Kido they have no connection to Wano. By all accounts Wano should have been 1 chapter of Jinbe getting the rubbings and leaving they had zero reason to be fighting. That why Alabaster worked and Wano did not, Vivi was a true member of the crew, the other Strawhats where helping Vivi because of genuine bonds not convenience like Monoskue. The Anime did Alabaster better actually since they added a couple of filler islands to further the connection with Vivi.

Third: Do team battles you have a bunch of characters having them all fight a different enemy is terrible, every fight should be 3-4 Strawhat's going up against 1 enemy. That the whole point of being a crew, to work together to win. Which goes back to the problem with Haki, everybody without Haki is irreverent, and nobody with Haki matters save Luffy as his Haki is so much stronger then every bodies else that all other strawhat's combined are useless compared to Luffy. Wano battle drives this problem home, literally nothing mattered but the Kido and Luffy fight mattered as whoever won would be able to instantly one-shot every other enemy remaining. So 99% of Wano was just filler as only one single fight was going to decide everything.

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>>291277125
The Sabo retcon was too awkward, and hasnt payed off.
I don't mind reclassifying Luffy's fruit as cartoon powers, but making it the chosen one fruit kind of sucks.

Cast is too large now, even with only the strawhats none of them get enough development or time, and the island narratives are still too formulaic.

>>291277125
you would have to undo the past 15 years

>>291277125
>how would you fix one piece?

less flashbacks, don't have Luffy beat every single major antagonist, remove Jinbei from the crew.

>>291277125
It doesn't need fixing. But I think it would benefit from following the format of the last chapter where you focus on one thing. OP does suffer when you're reading it weekly from having chapters where the attention gets divided which became the popular format. It's not a problem when you're reading the completed manga, but it makes the serialization feel slow.

These samefag threads trying to spin a narrative that one piece is falling off or is not as good as getting old. Try something new cucks.

>>291280445
[Shuesha has deposited 0.03 rupees to your account]

>>291277125
Multiple hiatuses for both the manga and especially the anime.

>>291277835
Haki worked best as just an in-universe explanation for shounen-isms.
Character is so powerful that they can just staredown an enemy and they yield from pure aura? Haki.
Character can sense someone's presence without any physical senses? Haki.
Character can somehow make good use of a weapon that should logically be weaker than their own body? Haki.

>>291277345
W7 saga and Marineford aren't "save the kingdom" arcs, yet probably cited the most as best One Piece arcs. Impel Down is extremely popular too. There's just comparatively few such arcs, so they they get drowned out by sheer volume. But saying demand isn't there is disingenious.

>>291278490
So far Nika has added nothing to the story that would justify its existence. Imu... It's not illogical that the main villain is from the Void Century, but we've gone like two decades without some immortal faggot on the horizon, so the story didn't really need him either.

>>291279242
Nami, Robin, Franky, Jinbe got those dedicated opponents
Only Brook and Usopp were robbed

>>291277125
Cut the fat, but that won't happen because it prints money, and making money is more important than telling a good story.

>>291277125
-retcon the Nika shit, it's retarded and a shoehorn to make Luffy more powerful so it doesn't seem as bad when he actually goes up against Imu and Blackbeard.
-Cut down the cast, every new arc since fishman island has just been a slew of new characters that don't matter only for them to get like 2 panels 400 chapters later to remind you they exist.
-Stop dick teasing the void century and just show it off already, 1000 chapters for something that will be forgotten in 3 weeks cause the entire fanbase for one piece is ESL jeets.
-having actual good double page spreads into 50 little boxes of everyones reaction to something we've seen hundreds of times.
-Show us what the fuck Blackbeard has been doing for the past 10 years.
-Stop bringing back side characters and then vague post about what happened to them (sabo)
-Let the strawhat crew actually get meaningful powerups instead of giving them an ability for one specific arc and then never use it again (Usopp observation haki)

Can't believe I've wasted my time with this dogshit series.

>>291277125
Nothing, if I was Oda I would do exactly the same, keep milking the series and adding bs to piss off the fans who love to theory craft and believe the story belongs to them

BB is a boring jobber faggot. Imu fixed One Piece

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>>291277125
Get Oda hooked on Idolm@ster.

>>291277186
>>291278703
stupid faggots, OP has been unreadable garbage since wano

>>291280830
everyone knows that but the actual execution and practice is garbage

the strawhats really is too many to not have more of a hierarchal structure, namely a captain and lieutenant style system

quite frankly the crew effectively already operate as a hierarchy just not as an honest one with how is obvious that the monster trio matters way more than everyone else and everyone else is filler, just be more honest about it, but I digress

anywho I think the crew dynamic would work better if
>main commanders
Zoro, Sanji, Nami, Usopp(some would change him for Robin in this spot but I don't care)
>Lieutenants
Chopper, Robin, Franky, Brook, Jinbe
and do not pretend that they are equal and let the audience know to NOT set themselves up for disappointment expecting much from them

>>291277125
cut out all unnecessary exposition, who the fuck wants to see every single villain of the week's backstory
cut out all character reactions or relegate them to side blurbs in main panels if they're really important every once in a while
after that do a pass that cuts every island down to 14 chapters maximum, even if it means characters are relegated entirely to the background
OP is a mildly fun, silly story, told in the shittiest way possible, but it'd be good if it was like 1/10th the length and ended 10 years ago

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>>291277125
The manga? Visually clean art.
Anime? Two chapters per episode.
The rest is fine.

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>>291277125
Keep OP1 (We Are) for the entire 1999-20XX Toei anime like what HxH 2011 did, and end said Toei anime with Post-Marineford and the Timeskip (they can adapt the Post-TS seasonally for all it matters). The biggest source of One Piece's problems is Toei messing with Oda. Half of why Wano is so bad is that Toei pressured Oda to throw in a million roadbumps for Toei to milk so that they don't catch up with the source material.

Luffy - Zoro - Sanji - Nami

What more do you need? It's the perfect quartet. The story doesn't need to waste time one other straw hats which won't get much development even after 1000 chapters.

>>291277125
i'd do absolutely nothing, other than have a chapter where we get to see Perona shit out her ghosts onto Zoro's chest

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I would shelve Gear 5 immediately. This manga is not gonna last much longer if every arc turns into Luffy laughing and doing slapstick in these turbo serious situations. Other than that, I would have the marines become an active threat again because the HKs are fucking laaaaaaame.
>>291284796
Nami is more of a Vice Captain than Zoro honestly. But she can't fight so we have to pretend Zoro is at all qualified to be second in command.

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I always find it funny in the chinese cartoons that the original progenitor of the reincarnation chain was allowed to reach greatness by their own merit, but the reincarnated protagonists are only able to because they get reincarnated powers.

Add more haki

>>291285743
he looks like a japanese sam hyde

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>>291277125
I believe one piece is fine the way it is story wise it did not suffer as bad of a decline as naruto did. But there are some issues i have with new piss.

The characters
>Nami.
I miss the short haired, small boobed Nami, who wasn't just fanservice.
Nami used to be a caring person with a sassy side and a taste for treasure, now she's just a self centered bitch.
>Sanji.
I miss the cool, suave Sanji, who may have obsessed about girls, but not to the extent that he could die from it. Sanji used to be all cool and suave, and he'd flirt, but when the girl said no he'd move on, now he just seems like a desperate pervert.
>zoro.
Most importantly I miss the Zoro who would smile and have a heart of gold under all that bad ass exterior. Zoro used to be a tough guy, but he was still up for fun, now he's a straight up kill some fool serious guy 95% of the time, and when he isn't he's either drinking or fighting someone who's frankly beneath him or belittling others.

I will always love One Piece and the crew, both old and new, but l'll also miss the days when the original five were just kids with big dreams on a big sea, i miss the old design pic related bit I understand animation improves as well as character design its just that early one piece had that distinct memorable look.

I believe franky should have been the last member to join up and law should have been some acquaintance for the straw hats that would do things on his own. The crew should have had another female or two to balance the ratio from the cockfest that it is.
The excessive plot bloat and remarkable stagnation of the story are clearly seen in the latest volumes.

>>291277125
the brook flashback, that really exposed nu- piece as being repetitive slop that really does not
need to be half as long as it is so now the series is in a very deep hole to crawl
out of and Imu vs Luffy isn't cutting it because they
dimes
both suck, Imu feels like a random encounter with
no heat with the protagonist, no build up, no personality, no Luffy also sucks he didn't even do anything cool in gear 5 but turn into a dumb genie just to do a big punch like was that supposed to be a joke or something? was it a reference more precisely, the loki devil fruit mystery box is already wasted
since he's just another dragon like Christ just end this arc

>>291277125
Delete half of the pages at random

>>291286297
TRUKOLA

Advanced observation with future sight and advanced coc is when this shit got ruined irredeemably. Not to mention the Nika retcon.

>>291278600
I'll see you in the next post and I WILL be looking for you

>>291277125
Restart from the end of water 7 and remake every arc while keeping the spirit of the earlier stories

More fluid storytelling would be my main change
>have characters be in different places like part of yonko crews being on different islands, the wildlife being an arc boss on atleast one island would make sense
>make the SHs the main focus and give them haki
>don’t constantly split up the SHs and if they are split up then their development needs to be more significant
>side character arcs need trimmed or lessened
>no side character catching a ride for 5000 chapters
>switch up the haki system and make it something more interesting, dunno how you do this but my haki is stronger than yours didn’t work
>have new world and its structure be more dangerous
>characters should die in new world or when fighting yonkos
>introduce the world ending weapons better and make their effect on the world better
>I would like laughtale to be under majerios and the new world journey be a round trip
>I don’t like imu, honestly I had no issue with the elders being the big bad of the navy and the admirals being their powerhouse
>spread out the sad flashbacks
>cap arcs at 75 chapters, maybe 125 for bigger arcs
>luffy really should’ve disagreed with how the oden clan family, forgot their name, wanted to genocide the other clan. Rewrite wano basically
>have kaido kill oden in a fight
>kill oden brutally
>remove gear 4
>nerf gear 5, I wouldn’t personally say remove it but tone down on the eye popping and laughing, maybe make luffy controlling his anger the main weakness
>probably would’ve had Luffy and Blackbeard meet/fight halfway through new world

>>291277175
This. A story isn't a story without an ending

Eliminate haki as a concept
Return back to logia fruits having weaknesses like croc being weak to water and enel being weak to rubber

>>291287693
>enel being weak to rubber
Uhh it's Enel being weak to Nika

Call it Three Piece and make it only about Sanji

>>291287747
kek

>>291277125
stop making charactwers ogf the arc
focus on straw hats
finisgh series

it's over, I chose to move on long ago and never looked back.

>>291277125
remove 90% of it so it can be consumed sanely

remove usopp

>>291277125
Give Oda an actual editor that tells him
>hey this shit sucks
most things wrong with One Piece trace back to the yesman editors who are afraid of telling Oda "no".

>>291277125
Armament Haki should have never been something visible. Half of the plot points of Fishman Island, Punk Hazard, and Dressrosa should have been cut out. CP0 should never have been created, and neither should the Seraphin. Cut out Yamato and half the plot points/fights from Onigashima.

>>291278281
I also think there's too many characters so it's most likely that a lot of people share this opinion.

>>291286277
this...
>Nami.
alot less of a bitch in the new world, I honestly wish Oda kept her flat.

>Sanji
it's same old with him. He actually got much more depth as the story progressed.

>Zoro
is still up for fun, they just seem to be in more serious situations in the new world. He cared for the people of Wano and he made friends with Wicca.


Honestly my biggest complaint is Chopper,
he fell off hard post-timeskip. For the longest time I actually thought he was stronger than Sanji. He should have had the Haki boost as well.

>I believe franky should have been the last member t
We need more combatants as the threat levels increase you know? Also it's nice seeing strange folks as well.

>>291277202
>new characters
Is a good thing, we love Super Sommers

>>291277125
>AND THE ADVENTURE CONTINUES ending instead of the timeskip.
Any other answer is wrong.

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>>291277125
In retrospect adding the shichibukai was a mistake and i can only imagine how much better things would've been if the hack stuck with his original plan.

>>291288875
Why? It introduced strong government-sanctioned pirates that had logical reasoning why the marines didn't immediately take down their empires

>>291288875
Imagine the universe where Crocodile is a yonko and Kaido never existed, and we never had the
>ackshually Pluton is in Wano
tweest if One Piece was its originally intended length.

>>291288895
Okay? They are still the main reason for a lot of the bloat though
>>291288914
This guy gets it

>>291277125
Here's the redpill: One Piece was NOT a battle/drama/political anime, and as soon as it became one it turned into dogshit.
Early OP was an adventure and comedy manga first and foremost, focused around making exciting novel scenarios and funny gags; the drama, action and mystery parts were drip-fed to the viewer scarcely enough that by contrast with how upbeat everything else was it made them hit really hard.

So, I'd rewrite it from the end of Water Seven onwards with this in mind. The actual events themselves matter little because in theory the story is still good, it's just the execution that is comically bad.

>>291277125
I think mostly fine aside from Haki being so prevalent, it's more important than devil fruits nowadays

Imagine if instead of one piece it was called rape piece and Laughy used his stretchy cock to rape all the cute girls and even some select cute guys, imagine bros, imagine.

Do people who still like post timeskip OP agree that the crew outside Luffy got sidelined from major characters to basically background characters for the most part? I can get not minding that as much but it took a lot of the charm out for me.

Bump

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>>291277125
>how would you fix one piece?
like this