>>291313580
there's trouble with wiping uchiha, known as a strong race with the feared sharingan
if you kill their family members, they'll awaken mangekyou, so genociding uchiha is at least tricky

>>291313580
cool it with the antisenjuism anon

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>>291313634
>the leaf village needs to genocide the uchiha because without it the senju will die

>>291313616
>hey should we stop segregating the uchiha and give them what they want?
>actually let's kill them

hiruzen knew what was going to happen and let danzo always do his bullshit unbothered even after the slaughter

but regardless itachi was the bigger retard for going "ok cool"

Itachi feared that the Uchiha coup would lead to devastating Konoha in the resulting destruction, which would weaken its defenses enough that the other nations would send their troops in to conquer it and enslave or kill everyone there.

He feared the ramifications of things, and the imminent horrors of war, far more than anything else. And so he was willing to put an end to his homicidally suicidal clan himself to preserve the peace he treasured and valued so much. He had already been scarred with that horror, he was fine with scarring himself further and further if it meant other kids would never have to be scarred in the first place.

It's kinda interesting how zoomers are more analytical when it comes to this stuff compared to millennials who prioritized vibes and aura when it came to villains and criminals.

>>291313782
Are they really analytical if they don't even discuss the reason why Itachi committed the massacre, just the actual killing?

>>291313580
He was the only good Uchigger because he recognized that Uchiggers were genetically prone to being edgelord chimps, so he used his own edgelord chimp power to end the Uchigger threat. His only mistake was letting Sasuke live.

Wasn't the official retcon that Obito did most of the actual slaughter on his own while Itachi was mostly just there to kill the clan leadership (including his father) who actually were planning to unleash the Nine Tails and attack the rest of the village?
Honestly I'm not sure how much it really helps the narrative to say that the Uchiha kinda deserved it.

>>291313753
And scarred his lil bro in the process, well done.

>>291313841
>Honestly I'm not sure how much it really helps the narrative to say that the Uchiha kinda deserved it.
It was the result of generations of systematic conflict that began long before either Itachi or Obito were born. They had no way of fixing it, Obito used atrocities like it as proof that the world was irredeemable and the Moon's Eye Plan was the only way to achieve happiness, while Itachi could only take the hatred onto himself and hope that the next generation would be the ones to break the cycle of violence for good.

>>291313580
add "naruto" to the op post so I can filter your tumbleweed thread. thanks!

>>291313753
if he feared this why not blind or steal every uchiha's eye?
tobi would've been very happy with this as long as he got a few eyes
also shisui would've been happy with this

let's say there was no choice, why itachi didn't destroy every eye?
if he saw the corpses during war he might have seen most guys missing eyes

>>291313807
>His only mistake was letting Sasuke live
he was a child, the only retarded thing he did was not telling sasuke the truth at the right time, which it doesn't make sense because he knew he left the village and abbandoned it, he should've killed orochimaru before he started training sasuke or at least kill everyone who had a cursed seal and then fight his brother until he had no chakra left so orochimaru was forced to come out

whatever, kishimoto is a retarded writer, he can't powerscale the hokages to the point of making the strongest hokage(hiruzen) and turning him to the weakest at the end of the series, like lmaooo how does hashirama get to be literally invincible and defeat ems madara with the ninetails but the fourth had to resort to kill himself even tho at the start of naruto is canonically stronger than the first and second hokage?

>>291313634
>>291313659
>highly insular and distrusting of outsiders, weird religion only they practise, chronic backstabbers
Jewchiha cries out in pain as he strikes you, as usual. let them in and offer them a hand and they always subvert and destroy out of spite and envy.

>>291313782
it only because they identify with Sasuke because they think their edgelord emo schtick is cool. if it were the other way around they would be saying thne Uchiha had a right to engage in preemptive self-defense by wiping out anyone who could oppose them.

>>291313841
the retcon was him going from a sadistic powerhungry "testmystrenght" guy to "actually imgoodbecauseikilledbadguys" then they also randomly added tobi to power scale down itachi, keep in mind he was only 13 when he slaughtered the uchiha, which automatically makes him the strongest known uchiha at the time, that wasn't enough to make him sound weaker so kishimoto made up the chakra disease

still...better writing than oda in my opinion

>>291314203
It's WSJ writing. The bar is on the floor.

>>291314203
he also turns around and humiliates Orochimaru shortly after when he first joined the akatsuki. a guy who was at or possibly even above a typical Kage in ability, and who could fight even with a jinchuriki that's completely let loose.

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>>291314241
actually it's because most of orochimaru's chakra was in his dick and balls becuase he genuinely was in love with itachi, when he realized he couldn't take him he started to groom his younger brother

>>291313580
Why are you watching a show for faggots that's literally about tranny chuunis?

>>291314212
look, making retcons to further drag your manga and possibly make more money it's fine but when you basically subvert every fucking plot point ever written, it doesn't make any sense, think of dragon ball super;
-super sayan is now tingly thing in the back not anger and emotion
-space racist named after an electric appliance actually didn't kill sayans because of racism but because he was a cuck to a purple cat god
-gohan who was the strongest at base form now he is the weakest at any transformation
-freezer getting revived 2 times

shippuden after the itachi's death is literally the same thing:
-hokages getting revived twice
-orochimaru revived
-itachi not evil but actually good
-nagato being a reincarnate but actually he isn't
-mangekyo you get it from losing close ones to actually just emotional trauma
-hashirama cells bullshit

>>291314279
>chuunis
I think you meant boruto

>>291314418
>calling Frieza 'Freezer' but not correcting Saiyan to 'Saiyajin' or 'Saiya'

>>291314447
i wanted to make the freezer joke

Best thread on /a/

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>>291314501
wdym the other threads are better

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>>291313580
This is you.

>>291314802
yes except the sign

>>291313580
Why is he getting ink on his face?

>>291313580
>itachi was always a good guy
you misspelled "goy"

>>291313716
What did they want, exactly?

>>291314849
he was going door to door painting the uchiha symbol for free because he loves his clan

>>291313580
Just do the German dub censorship thing then and retcon him to have only "kidnapped" the Uchiha clan.

>>291315024
they wanted to live within the village and have political rule

>>291313580
It was literally planned from the beginning as is evident from every flashback Sasuke has about the massacre, including his stating he remembers Itachi crying in the first 5 chapters of the entire manga. The twist about Itachi was one of the best things to happen to the narrative in Naruto, so it is natural Rock Lee fags keep seething about it.

>>291313580
Dude was a CIA agent that loved the State more than his family.
Total freakshow.

If Kishimoto was a better writer he'd have done something with Itachi preferring the abstract to the personal.
He loves the abstract image of the village more than the personal ties he had to his family. It is easier to love an abstract image, that can't offend you or hurt your feelings or feel unrelateable, than other people that are imperfect and are full of friction.
Sasuke was the only other person he really liked, but even then it was the distant concept of a brother to fulfill a role in Itachi's life. Traumatizing your sibling repeatedly so that they kill you is not something an actual older brother does, it is something a person does when they have a narrative to engineer and that sibling is just a stage actor.

But that is just if Kishimoto decided to psychoanalyze Itachi rather than treat him as a golden boy that found all the time in the world to murder every person that loved him, but left Danzo unmolested.

>>291313753
Retard, what kind of message does it send when your strongest clan gets wiped by one person? Does losing your strongest clan not weaken your defenses? The plan made no goddamn sense. Every time the leaf eats shit be in Kyubi attack, the uchiha massacre, Sand/sound invasion or Pain attack they get off scot free.

>>291313753
If the Leaf wasn't invaded after the Kyuubi, where is the justification for it being invaded after the Uchiha go for a coup?

>>291313580
His clan was about to start a new ninja war. If your family were literally IDF sleeper spies planning to start a coup on your country, would you just stand by? Even if the government itself knew and gave you a bone by letting at lrast your brother live with a fat pension?

>>291317367
Danzo was literally trying to kill them.

>>291313843
His lil bro is retarded. Itachi thought his lil bro had at least room temperature IQ

>>291313580
why did he let his lil bro alive again?

>>291317040
>It was literally planned from the beginning as is evident from every flashback Sasuke

>oh yeah let me give ptsd tsukyomi to my little brother before fucking off
>let me return to the village and almost kiill kakashi with tsukuyomi
>let me break my little brother's arm and give him ptsd again with tsukuyomi

you retard you didn't read the manga or watch the anime if it wasn't for the retcons that happened later with flashbacks he would've been a fucking villain

>>291317385
also he was already harvesting their eyes
>>291317367
this is /a/ I don't want to politically explain but I guess there's no other way, your loyality is for your people, your clan, your race, everything else comes second, you going against your own race it's the most betraying thing you can do, the coup was about kidnapping the third hokage and demanding equality for the uchiha clan/race, they didn't plant to do a massacre, the village elders did because it's an easier solution, which is moronic considering most of the uchihas have OP dojutsu, which would leave the village weaker

but to me the most non sensical thing was itachi going "yes massa danzo, thanks for killing my best friend, now I will finish the job"

>>291317526
None of that disproves the twist wasn't planned, retard. Itachi is still presented as having been wrong in doing all those things and as Edo Tensei he keeps telling both Sasuke and Kabuto that Naruto's path is the true one and he failed at everything he set out to do. He quite literally told Kurenai and Asuma to fuck off because he didn't want to hurt them. But he had to maintain his cover. Please read the actual flashbacks Sasuke has at the end of Part I.

>>291313580
>no amount of lore can ever never justify erasing your own race
his people were retarded and were gonna get nuked either way.
Itachi was just smart enough to jump to the end and save prolonged suffering.

>>291317266
The Kyuubi was dealt with rather quickly, mate. It killed a lot of civilians and traumatized the village, but the Leaf's military power was not significantly dimished. You see, the advantage human adversaries like the Uchiha who are respected village citizens is that they can randomly and covertly strike at numerous different locations and can't be dealt immediately with as with a massive conspicuous target.

>>291317923
>He quite literally told Kurenai and Asuma to fuck off
might guy came in a clutch, they were easy prey, still why put kakashi in trouble knowing he might die from it

>>291318224
Kakashi specifically says that Itachi stopped just short of killing him. Again, Itachi has to maintain credibility with the Akatsuki and also not leak information that might compromise Danzo's position (though obviously Danzo as a character was created later). You are saying "A character who has the play the role of a villain was playing the role of a villain". He very clearly avoided shedding blood and only resorted to violence when he believed his mission would be compromised.

>>291313580
Let's face it, he always hated his own clan for being powerhungry and arrogant with a lack insight. Konoha offered him a reasonable excuse to do it for the greater good but that's just cope. He could have just killed Danzo and explained Hiruzen what happened to Shisui and everything would've turned out differently but he didn't.

>>291313580
What's wrong with genocide anyway? People are gonna die regardless and if it's for the greater good then genocide is literally the morally right option.

Kagurabachi is doing the same thing right now, by showing that Akemura was always the good guy and did the right things for the greater good and I really like that.

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Sooner or later the Uchiha WERE going to have a chimpout uprising anyway. They only thing they will ever understand is fighting.
The ONLY reason why the Uchiha ended up working together with the Senju is because Madara (as leader at the time) could NEVER ever beat Hashirama, so he worked together just to save the clan. Madara needed the 9 tails just to ''equal'' Hashirama. Imagine if the Senju weren't around and only the Uchiha built a city? It would be at least as cruel as the Rain. The Uchiha had a district but even that wasn't enough.I don't think there is anyone who likes the Uchiha as a clan. Everyone fears them except for criminally thirsty schoolgirls.
Good thing Tobirama was around because Hashirama would gladly give the Uchiha the mantle out of stupid gullibility.
I mean. The Uchiha have a Curse of Hatred. And their ancestor only responded with violence when taught that he should be a better person.

So yeah, Itachi was probably the most clever Uchiha of them all as it was said that he ''thinks like a Hokage''.

The sharingan is literally just a visible brain tumor that makes you go nuts, that why your eyes start bleeding when you use the mangekyou and you go blind.

>>291315499
>they wanted to live within the village and have political rule
so death I see

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>>291313580

kill yourself narutard

>>291313580
>retcon
retard