Great writing
Oda's most baffling decision remains not giving more of the crew at least some level of basic Hakiit's been relegated to literal jobbers having at least SOME form of Haki now and the entire crew has not only gone through enough shit that they provably have the will for it, not only that but ROBIN doesn't have it? Who hung out with the Revolutionaries for two years and only somehow picked up Fishman Karate?? The thing that would massively amp her fighting style and help alleviate one of her biggest weaknesses???
i love lilith
>>291352760Haki's made fights less interesting. It's not about finding a way to deal with whacky powers, it's about having enough haki to haki punch through the other guy's haki defense.
>>291352773so I guess the crew has an official scientist now, I wonder what plans oda(he probably doesn't) have for her in the future
>>291352858Under normal circumstances, I'd agree that she's not staying but Egghead + This Arc has totally put the crew into flux. I don't see Bonney, Kuma, and Vegapunk getting off the Sunny on Elbaph and the only place to go after this is Lodestar
>>291352760>parroting GLRgrim
>>291352949I have no idea who this is
>>291352858I think she's likely staying at Elbaf tbqh, as much as I wish she stuck with the crew.
>>291352827I personally don't care about powerlevels or how it's actually used in fights, I also think the way haki is used is generally pretty retarded, I just think that making it nearly ubiquitous and having the endgame revolve around it while leaving half the crew essentially on the sidelines and pulling cleanup because they can't pass a haki vibe check to do more than mildly inconvenience HKs is a weird choice, it's being used as a representation of willpower and it's baffling that only Usopp is getting anything on that front when they've all demonstrated they should be on that level if only to elevate Luffy to where he needs to be
trying to explain haki makes it even gayerthe enemies in a story lose because they're the enemies, you shouldn't have to say the enemies lose because the enemies are mechanically weaker
>>291353164Haki literally being an "I look at you until I win" power doesn't happy
>>291352644the fire + lightning looks so god awfuljust get rid of the fire, Oda
>>291352760WHO SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE IT FRANKY HAS IT AND IT'S NEVER BROUGHT UP
>>291353303does he actually show using haki or are you talking about the one panel where Luffy goes "you guys are using haki" and assuming that includes him and not just Sanji and Bonneyalso Bonney is like 12 which makes it even funnier that somehow half the crew doesn't have any
>>291352760I don't think it would matter if he did give them haki, because he still writes the story to give each character their personal moment.Usopp was on an island for two years, fat, and running from man eating plants. He found courage and decided to get better for Luffy, yet in the new world, he acts as he did in East Blue. He has his moments, but Oda is purposely humiliating him for the "good moments" and he won't change until the very end of the series. Nami was on a island with people who deal with the weather - all she does is use Zeus. Robin with the revolutionaries, you think she'd have allies, and learn a lot of intel. She's just Robin with her hair slicked back.Franky met Vegapunk, the person who's lab he was in. You think he'd learn something new on Egghead. Chopper doesn't even fight anymore like he used to.Brook was a rockstar, yet only now with Gunko do we see someone who was a fan of his.Can't be helped at this point. I'll just take my two chapters a month and be happy.
To anyone in this thread who may happen to reside in Japan, what is it like reading One Piece over there? How often do you notice it in stores/advertisements/or other parts of your life? Is it as big in Japan as it's claimed to be?
>>291353512I love this little guy (tall as Kaido)
>>291353416>She's just Robin with her hair slicked backHell no, actual Robin (Alabasta~Skypiea) was such a peak character. When's the last time we've seen anything related to her being an archaeologist and an assassin? No, she is nu-Robin with her hair slicked back. As in the husk of a character basically reduced to being a hot onee-san she became after Enies Lobby because Oda can't write characters after he finishes their big arcs.I'll stand by this but Skypiea was the last truly good old school OP arc. There's a bunch of good arcs afterwards (Water Seven arguably being the most well written OP has ever been, though Enies Lobby is dogshit), but they lack that distinct 'feel' chapter 1 all the way towards 302 had.
GAARAXY DEEEEVIDAAAAR
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>>291352644>My treasure? It's yours if you want it. Find it! I left all the world has there!>You just need one in a million haki, voice of all things, the legendary god fruit nika and someone who can read this ancient language>Also dont forget you have to have the will of this specific pirate who lived a thousand years ago
There is only 1 final villain
>>291354013Akainu.
>>291352949Exactly what I was thinking. Almost word for word.Then he wants to pretend "nO iDeA wHo tHiS iS." Yeah, sure thing. How sad. At least form an original thought, man.
>>291354098A pathetic loser, a lap dog of the world government, he will never rise up or do shit.
>>291353067Even if they dont all have Armament or Conquerors, youd think they would at least have Observation. Especially Jinbe or even Brook since he's old as fuck and a former high level soldier.
>>291352760literal marine fodder in Dressrosa have haki, Oda has no excuse to skimp on the Straw Hats.
>>291354013ZEHAHAHAHAHA
ROCKS
>>291353416What's with the chapters being so inconsistent the last month or two? I can't even remember the last time we had two or three chapters in a row. It's going to take 20 more years to finish this shit at this rate.
>>291352644I'll probably get hate here for saying that I like Hunter x Hunter more than One Piece (I do think One Piece has really high peaks though): but if an author like Togashi wrote the Elbaf arc, how would he handle the chess pieces currently present in the story?The major ones are:>Imu>Loki>God's Knights>Straw Hats>Gaban>Elbaf Giants (Jarul, Harjudin etc.)I get a bit sad when I think about how much potential the cool setting and all these pieces could be used for the story. All the devil fruits, different abilities, strengths/weaknesses of the characters present are so diverse and I feel like you could have a bunch of interesting match ups where every character gets to be useful in some way. The direction Oda took just feels like such a boring waste when he had so many options
>>291354226He's still alive. Bet on it. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the one that eventually kills/defeats Imu and fulfills that promise he made when he invaded the holy land. Minus the ruling the world part, since it will probably be some sort of old man sacrifice thing.
>>291354236I can’t take Togashi’s writing style seriously anymore, sorry. I get the need to be deep in some aspects, but I want the stories and characters to be deep, not the fucking power system. One Piece does this in a far better regard, even if Oda fumbled Elbaf.
>>291354253His son will fulfil it, see pic related.
>>291354236definitely at the midpoint of the arc where Imu possesses Gunko and DR's the giants it had a tonne of potential, there's a lot of cool shit Oda could have done from there. but the second half is absolute poo, Imu is the only one on the island that is any threat whatsoever and he's on a timer. the stakes are all gone.
>>291354236He'd handle it with walls of exposition. I love Togashi, but he fails at many levels when it comes to visual storytelling. It works extremely well when translated to something like anime, because anime supplements the exposition with visual aids and filler, but it doesn't always work with his chapters. Sometimes you'll spend 15-20 minutes just reading one chapter, but the actual amount of plot progression is negligible because most of that time was deciphering walls of text explaining something that only has minimal relevance overall. Personally, I don't mind it, since for me it makes the world feel more immersive and cohesive, but the best visual stories operate on the "show don't tell" concept for a reason.
>>291354269Why would Teach know what Rocks said to Imu? Nah, I still think Rocks will return in some form. I don't think he died at God Valley. He may even be the man with the burn scar for all we know.
>>291354013Nice eye.
>>291354340his mom told him
>>291354236I think in Togashi's style the god's knights are probably way more of a threat, at the very least once they're buffed they're able to occupy the strong fighters. probably have match ups where zoro/sanji are the frontliners and the other straw hats and giants team up behind them to support. luffy + loki + gaban occupied by Imu still probably makes sense, but Togashi would probably make that part of the arc all about lore drops and dialogue with the king of the world much less about punching back and forth
>>291354236huh, personally I haven't been a fan of elbaf at all but thinking about the setting and characters the premise is objectively way cooler than the palace invasion arc in hxh. that does make me a bit sad as well
>>291354229mix of Oda breaks, Jump breaks, and an extremely rare Japanese holiday that happens once every like every couple of yearsit's absolutely killing the pacing because the Imu fight already kinda felt like a slog but at least we're bouncing to the other SHs right now
>>291352949The straw hats not having haki is a pretty basic observation to make. I don't think noticing that necessitates parroting someone.
>>291354127not everyone keeps up with redditors and shittubers anon
>>291352927If Bonney, Kuma, and Lilith join the crew, Luffy will have 12 disciples. Perfect for one to betray him.
>>291354364>imu just yapping and not fightingunironically would've been way cooler, just talks to them and when the god's knights lose he does one big move and leaves
>>291354013and you're looking at him
>>291354253Of course he's alive. He was killed while in DR, so he wasn't at 1 HP anymore when he reverted.
>>291352644>Huh?Zoro didn't even know what he was doing.
>>291354455You do apparently since you're familiar. Way to out yourself.Even more embarrassing that you'd copy the criticism and then try to pretend to be above it.
>>291354488>he wasn't at 1 HP anymore when he reverted.He was, that is why he got onetapped by Garling.>B-but...Oda doesn't care.
>>291354269It's sad how all Teach hype hinges on him potentially stealing Imu's powers. If Imu never existed, what would he do?
>>291354497ok
Bonney best girl
>>291354635why is luffy wearing glasses?
I can't stop cumming inside of Bonney and Perona
>>291354663no reason
>>291352760oda gave up on the straw hats back during timeskip>luffy and zoro are just for vacuous hype moments and aura>sanji, usopp and brook are just for repeated gags>nami and robin are just marketing coombait>chopper and franky are just for selling toys>jinbei is there for political dogwhistlingThey've all stopped being characters long ago
>>291352949This says more about you than it does about him.
>>291355008Pretty sure Crocs hidden past is just gonna be him losing his hand in an embarrassing way.
>>291355159>their
>>291352760Oda has had to keep Robin underpowered and out of the limelight because a Robin who's serious and inventive would be broken for both offense and defense. Imagine if she could just hold up the bird's nest or even rip it up while attacking Doflamingo from all angles. Or if she could summon a giant island-smashing hand.
>>291355246*bird cageDon't know why I said nest.
>>291353512I'm Japanese.Since it's a long-running manga in *Shonen Jump*, it's extremely well-known, and I'd say its fan base ranges in age from about 10 to 60.Lately, since the TV broadcast has been moved to late-night hours, it feels like there's less promotion, but I still see merchandise quite often.
>>291355246>line of sight (optional) with main antagonist>breaks their neck with hakiShe could easily speedrun every arc. Even if she doesn't break their neck she can easily screw them up at a crucial moment like the cp0 guy did Luffy when he was fighting Kaido.
>>291355246I don't think it would change much power-wise, she'd still be fighting people on her level she'd just be better at itthere wasn't anyone in the past three arcs that was a serious threat that even with haki would she have been able to do anything significant to, and the ones that were a threat she was already fighting. the vast majority of the time she'd either get outhaki'd or whoever she tried to necksnap/backbreak would overpower her or just Aokiji it because that's not a physical strike that counts for hurting Logias, she'd still have to actually hit them
>>291355199problem zoomer?
I love Rebecca
>>291355246>Arms were in pain when Zoros zombie overpowered her >Retreated from the Fishman using poison >Got turned into Sugars toy and also a teenager in that one movie Her fruit makes her a big target so it evens out, she was dangerous because she was clever about it and focused on peoples joints and blind spots And bare hands aren't a good match for razor wire no matter how much you try to spin it
>>291352644Zoro is retarded so I’ll let it slide
>>291356208Give those hands haki.
>>291356208>And bare hands aren't a good match for razor wireluffy fought zoro even before haki
>>291356484If Luffy jumped off a cliff, would you?
>>291356513he's made of rubber
>>291355989based
>>291356517How did that happen?
>>291356539yo ho ho he ate a piece of god god
>>291352760Oda hates the crew.
>>291352644That's not what "sense of self" is. Even animals have a sense of self, what he means is volition.
>>291355098What's sad is that Yamato was really popular and he could have sold more Yamato merch, but instead she wasted her (and the siblings) to be in wano to try to boost Wano popularity Imagine if Yamato and Ulti Pachi joined the crew
>>291356729what about Page1
>>291352644Would the World Government experiment on people to the extent Umbrella Corporation does in Resident Evil?
>>29135598916
>>291356885OUT OF 10
>>291356885...is the age that bulma was flashing people at
>>291356885So?
>>291352927She’s going to help Franky build another Iron Giant/Vegaforce 1 out of Emperor Franky and he or they will pilot it into the final battle. Might even do a call back to Big Emperor with Robin getting over he human pride and joining in.
>>291356208So waitWhen she was a toy, what the fuck did the strawhats think they went to Enies Lobby for?
>>291354003Shanks could have gotten to the Laugh Tale years ago. But he is a Joyboy autist who decided he had to wait.
>>291356885Wow dbz fans are nice
>>291357053>not a pedo They're just drawings
>>291357085If you fap to drawings of children you almost certainly want real children, creep. Its the same.
>>291357143No because I'm not fucked enough to do that to a real child. A drawing has no morals, it's just weird.
>>291357189Perfection
>>291352827>It's not about finding a way to deal with whacky powers,It almost never happened in the first place.>but muh Mr. 0Yes. Him. But for Enel, Luffy was just naturally immune. Lucci he just overpowered with a power up before haki was even formally introduced.
>>291352827tpbp /thread
>>291352827juan pissers will defend this
>>291352760how many of them strawhats are nepobabies? did queen had haki so franky would also awaken it? what about the deer who gave birth to chopper? did she has kingly ambitions? maybe yasopp has some haki and that's why we see once in a solar eclipse usopp hinting it
It'd be funny if Oda introduces an important character who ate a legendary DF called "win-win fruit" which does makes him immune to losing only to lose to some bum with haki. Imagine screeching
>>291357549Why do you keep posting this ?
>>291357549Where is Tama?
>>291354013Correct
>>291353391I mean, Luffy was unconsciously using CoC and smashing CoA users. Zoro basically is the exact same, he leaked/failed a ACoC attack against mihawk at baratie, then sorta masters some kind of CoA variant when he learned to cut steel, his intimidation is now retconned to his CoC. Then there's what ever the fuck nonsense sanji's shit is.Other characters having it in other forms than standard 'my hand is black' is fine, not everyone has received formal training. If they luck into using it in their own weird way, sure. It's main role is 'I can hurt someone who is normally able to "auto evade" and do slightly more damage against a tank'. Logiia fuckers who are paying attention can still just fucking evade.
>>291352644name five unrelated full length novels you've finished and enjoyed
>>291352760Oda's most baffling decision remains in how haki can't be beaten by anything else.It's like Dungeons & Dragons added it's seventh stat, the COOL stat and have it be the only thing that matters.Good fights can't happen anymore because there is only hits to no-sell and hits that massacre the guy.
>>291355341Yea, OP powers taken to their extreme often has too many 'arc ends now' moments.>just put holes in 99% of the fodders heads>overwhelm remaining>just quietly take a knife out of targets own belt and slice their throat (poke out eyes, smash their balls, pinch nipples etc any sort of distraction that allows the killshot)>btw nerve gas or asphyxiate on this random gas>I'm just gunna push you into a volcano or middle of ocean now>your head is now 5km away and I'm chucking your heart in the ocean, or I might just stab it, keklol, also this random fodder is going to possess your body, here's the ant I'm swapping you with>hello! you're my toy now! obey me forever! killyourself!
>>291355311Bizarre move that. Toei/who ever has merch wouldn't have liked that. Visibility and consciousness is kinda vital in selling random junk to kids.
>>291354236Toad is making the same mistake as Oda. There's bloated cast galore and most exist to show off some cool powers and die as the clusterfuck escalates. We've seen potentially complicated arcs a few times since TS where the vast majority of endgame actors are present (or have some representative) and they have consistently just been sidelined to a degree (they do one core thing that advances their factions goal, then they dip).
>>291352760Haki is the worst thing that has ever happened to One Piece tho.
>>291358597as caputalists, Toei executive's job is to increase profits for the shareholders through merch sales of as many characters as possible. In what way are they mistaken, given that failure to do so means losing their jobs
>>291354285He's here to showcase the "final" endgame. Luffy can now stand as a proper combatant at MF, he's just got the final leap to go where he can handle the pinnacle of the settings magic. And we'll now have to see where that is via Imu bodying Luffy/Loki and some kind of flashback to detail ancient history. It's probably also to give a showing to Imu's 20 forms.I'd say it's more like WoT 'holy fucking shit kid how are you casting that, how do you know that, you're powerful, but please don't fucking use balefire again, it has reality breaking consequences'. We're at the point things properly go bonkers, or are at least allowed to.
>>291352760The decision to make CoC a “you’re born with it, or you aren’t” power also effectively kneecaps every crew member other than the Monster Trio from being relevant regardless of their Haki knowledge. Even if we gave everyone that fought Gunko both Advanced Armament and Observation, the outcome wouldn’t change because nobody has ACoC.
just be born with CoC, how hard is it.
>>291352760>Oda's most baffling decision remains making hakifixed
I'm rewatching alabasta, and mr 2 says he is also a first class cook when he meets sanji. Then we learn that one the gay island everyone eats powerup food. Was this maybe intentional?
>>291352644>Left shows King upfront as this is supposed to be the moment where he and the reader realizes Zoro's CoC while himself does not>Right now poses Zoro in the same angle as he finally becomes aware of his CoC just like the reader and many others doIt unironically is
I want to eat her creampied pussy.
>>291359532Nah, Oda never plans anything out
>>291357003Luffy having a Luffy moment as usual and everyone else got dragged into it
I hate the cuckold using best girl Perona for his ritualposting.
>>291354236The narrative is in a big power hole so it'd be hard to write it properly even for someone like Togashi who does his best writing for a setting like Elbaf. The story became so much about powerlevel suck offs and less about character dynamics post-TS and particularly during Wano, so most characters are completely irrelevant now because they've all been powercliffed to shit and can't offer anything else since power is now the centre of the story.
>>291359595We know, Zolo.
>>291354236The thing about Togashi is that he takes really long breaks, so of course he would have more time to polish and refine everything. So no, I can't claim to know what it'll look like, only that it'll be an improvement in every way, and that it'll take annoyingly longer to finish.
>>291354236Elbaf by Togashi:>ongoing since 2014>there's a whole chapter dedicated to Biblo teaching Chopper the rules of a card game they don't actually end up playing>King Harald had 14 sons each of whom has his own body guards with quirky devil fruit powers, these powers are then explored in detail with zero plot progressionYeah I don't know man that sounds like it might not be very cash money
>>291360422Zolo...
>>291352760Robin will be later to be revealed to have haki of the founding mothers once imu is revealed to just be a stooge
>>291360115Huh, succession war really is dressrosa
I want Zoro to creampie my ass.
>>291352760What's most baffling to me is that there are still people, like you, who believe Oda cares about the fighting ability of his female characters or that they are on equal footing with male characters growth wise. Women in one piece fight because they have no choice, not because they like it, and certainly not because they want to get stronger. That attitude is reserved to males. I would very much appreciate it if we stopped pretending this is a strawhat matter and not a sexism matter. No I'm not being ironic. Even back in pre timeskip Oda was clearly struggling with not making Robin just one shot every enemy. Because that would be too cool for a wymen I guess, or he didn't want to spend time writing a fight for her. The reason she doesn't have haki is just an extension of that attitude.
>>291352760Oda can't give the other Straw Hats more power because then he'd have to actually draw fights for them. This man is slaving away an average 2.5 weeks a month to provide this story for you and you want to be greedy and ask for the main cast to be relevant?
>>291361365Hiyori...
>>291361365JamiUwu...
>>291352760Oda barely can draw fights anymore. That's why the Midhats will stay Mid.
>>291361729She will always be SMF to me.
>>291361420Technically, women (like Ripley right now) do fight in battles, but it's never really shown properly, you're supposed to imagine it or just watch the anime. Oda prefers to focus on different things. Like Run Piece and funny faces.
>>291361881Exactly, because he doesn't care
>>291357189Fellow Carrot enjoyer.
>>291359324>you’re born with it, or you aren’tthis also gives him a excuse to no bother with a hard fight anymore narratively speaking, there is nothing tied to having conquerors Haki, you have to be born with it and can have any personality.Luffy is even more of a clown that Buggy and he has it, the marines that have it are still Loyal dogs to someone else, The monster trio has been humiliated in the past in different ways and still have it. Ace Had it despite not wanting to be king.Yes being able to use it is a different thing and it seems that requires some skill but that still means that Oda can pull out of his ass who has the win button while a character that grinds really hard can get told that they lack it, so they stop being useful despite being broke in paper, looking at you robin even if she doesn't grind.Is like the worst version of kekke gen kai on Naruto, you need to be born with it but you don't have special gimmicks, everyone with it does the same, people without it can do the same thing that you but without the +damage and put down permanently some dudes in manga where people rarely kill each other oh and finally it has no use outside of combat
>>291358626think the ultimate point is that Oda made an entire "this is the final ultimate thing you need to learn and master to truly be relevant in this stage of the story" power system then cut half the main cast out of itit's not even about them being stronger with it it's because of what it represents, it's willpower made manifest yet despite all the fights and the times they've stood their ground for the sake of Luffy's dream and 'haki blooming in battle' half the crew has not even hinted at it
>>291362499Observation has use cases out-of-combat at least but the way Oda draws it you can hardly ever tell if it's being used or if the characters are just actually noticing shit that's happening normally
There will be (yet another) break after chapter 1195.You have been warned.
>>291362881yeah it's a scheduled Oda breakwe get at least three chapters after that though low bar I know
>>291352760Haki is power scaling armor plot bullshit, and you cant say otherwise because someone like Mihawk would just fucking kill everyone, if they are already jobbing to him without him even using Haki, adding that would just be absolute bullshit that you would only beat with absolute plot armor bullshit as always
>>291352827Yeah, oda wanted this to be the next db but he wasn't as brave as Toriyama to drop the characters you obviously don't want to use
>>291362932I highly doubt that. I'll believe it when I see it.
oda will die before he finishes one piece
>>291363228You will die before a single woman gives you more than a disgusted passing glance.
>>291360422Kinemon, Raizo, Doggy and Kitty, Sanji, Zoro, Luffy with Usopp supervising, Yamato, Momonosuke, her and Izo’s theatre troupe, THE Kaido, THE Oden, but NOT Tanjiro He would do it begrudgingly.. but then trick her saying he doesn’t like her after, leaving her emotionally devastated
>>291352760Baffling? It's not baffling at all from Oda's perspective. It's clearly to preserve character identity and roles within the main cast without diluting them into grey sludge. It's only strange from an in-universe perspective.It's One Piece's version of "Why doesn't everyone just learn Kaioken or Instant Transmission?" It's to avoid everyone sharing 95% of the same skill set, which was already bad enough in Dragonball.
>>291359229Its not a giant Nami. Its a model of the Sunny Go.
would you a gerd
>>291352827Haki was a mistake.
>>291352827>It's not about finding a way to deal with whacky powers The way Oda dealth with hacky abilities was also bad. Crocky's sand is useless when the enemy gets wet despite the fact he can absorb water, Enel can get punched by Luffy but he can't melt the latter's rubberry body despite being able to melt gold...
>>291363779She must smell like a fucking bison.
>>291363779I would both of them at the same time.
>>291352644Please don't get Oda mad otherwise he will go on break again after next week chapter. I just want to get off Elbalf PLEASE
>>291355246Robin is nowhere near as strong as you think she is
>>291363779would what?
>>291354236There was definitely something more interesting to do with Imu. Like treating him more like a living bomb for starters. Have him try to destroy Elbaf on his trademark Joy Boy related tanthrum and have characters make heroic sacrifices to tank his shit. Use his emotional instability. We know Oda isn't gonna destroy Elbaf but tension might rise if every named character throws themselves at Imu to buy time because Luffy can't handle shit. Imu is a very emotional person yet Oda established that because he wants to rule Elbaf he hasn't tried to destroy it. Why make a ticking bomb and then disengage it? I genuinely don't get it. And why not destroy Elbaf anyways, do it, teach the giants despair. Dressrosa was destroyed, why not Elbaf too?
>>291361340And yet Oda still managed to finish that one
>>291364895would
>>291363779I honestly don't see the appeal, you're basically caving.
>>291356885No rules for pirates.
>>291352644Finally read the official translation, once again the AI translation ended up being closer to the official than TCB lmao. But I really wonder what this means for the story, because how can omen be the counterpart of haki if its supposed to be part of a devil's fruit power? I think it gives even more fuel to the theory that Imu is something else entirely
>>291366202It's not part of a "devil fruit power". Imu's powers are not from a Devil Fruit. Imu's powers are the Devil's Fruit. As for why Omen is the counterpart, it is because they are relinquishing their will over imposing their own.
i been learning to draw to make my own jinbeixfrankyxrobin mfm smut
>>291366389at least you're doing more than oda right now
https://x.com/onepiecedaiIys/status/2106070258805075993why do they do this?
>>291366274>Imu's powers are not from a Devil Fruit. Imu's powers are the Devil's FruiThats part of my point, there is a lot of debate over what his powers really mean, and some(mainly BBfans from what I've seen, compare it to a mythical zoan, but omen being a counterpart to haki really implies that its something beyond devil fruits, more like a third kind of power
>>291366489
>>291366495Well obviously it is up to interpretation, but to me, the Devil Fruit powers only appeared after the second world, meaning they were not present in the first world.
What are the chances that the next chapter will be hype?Wife.
>>291366605It'll probably be focused on Sanji so I dont really care
>>291352858>>291352927I think people have gotten into the mindset that new permanent crewmembers HAVE to bring something unique to the table, as if ships weren't manned by dozens of crewmates who all performed whatever job they needed. Fans tend to relegate Zoro to the First Mate position, but he rarely barks out orders in lieu of Luffy, and direction of the ship tends to fall on whatever they need to do at the moment. I don't see why Bonney and Lilith can't just be general crewmen, or if they really need roles Lilith can be a researcher and Bonney a cabin boy, since Kuma's flashback implied the Sorbet fishermen actually ran the Bonney Pirates, and she was just its face.
>>291354253>I wouldn't be surprised if he's the one that eventually kills/defeats Imu and fulfills that promise he made when he invaded the holy landthats the whole point of having Blackbeard, you fucking retard
>>291366662I dunno, while Sommers to me is one of the few good characters in this arc, I kinda stopped caring about the current fight because of how Zoro isn't really struggling with this guy, not to mention him being dumb. It killed all the excitement I had for that fight.Killingham kinda just... exists, the only thing saving him is his cool DF and design and that's it, besides that he is boring. At least his fight with Sanji sounds more interesting to me since he will finally unlock a new power, so I am looking forward that fight the most besides the Imu one.
>>291366202Omen is Imu's will given form. The Knights of God relinquish their will to Imu through the Covenants. They can't wield Conquerer's Haki ever. Omen is the best they can do.
>>291366605I like Zoro and Sanji, so I'm expecting good times. I think next is Sanji but I'd be surprised if Oda structures Zoro vs. Sommers first then moves to Sanji since his fight has more stakes for Elbaph as Zaza is entirely dependent on Killingham.
>>291366794>how Zoro isn't really strugglingOda's aware this was just practice for Zoro, that's why there's no real tension here nor goal for Zoro other than to figure out what's with the hearts.
>>291354219>>291354226>>291354253Davy Jones
>>291352644Riveting story, Oda-sensei. We all love recycling.
>>291355246why can't she spawn a hand inside someone's chest and crush their heart?
>>291367634I also love recycling, I use my massive wealth to buy copies of HxH and throw them immediately in the recycling bin
>>291356208i want to wife and sex that inbetween form
post your whyboner.mild or disgusting, i don't care.
>>291353512I don't live there but I've visited and made many friends. It's crazy to think that one of the guys I talk to is in his 40s with children and we talk about it each time I see him. And it's cool to think that he was reading it in middle school and now he reads it with his children and discusses it with me 3 huge age differences just talking about the same thing is pretty neat. As a fan I think it's gone too long especially given it's premise but I appreciate that it's given me this.
>>291354497>no argument>unfounded accusationsWhy even bother talking? Headbutting a wall conveys more information than you manage.
>>291368194One piece is too long for me to properly remember everything but your pic reminded me of Art Nami (the one affected by the art art fruit where she loses her boobs) I would totally do her. Also when Horn point Chopper was shown after the timeskip, that design was kinda... interesting to me in a certain way, ngl. Probably because he looks like a twink or somethin'
>>291367634I know he's 60 and dying but sketch piece is so ugly! This manga should have ended 10 years ago.
>>291352827Haki WAS kind of a necessary evil to bypass how Logias stand at the top of the Devil Fruit meta without any resistance, but at the same time it's also kind of shifted the in-universe meta heavily towards Hakimen and Mythical Zoans. Like how Gamefreak made Fairy type Pokemon because Dragon types were too strong but didn't really think it all through.
>>291368515he was born in 1975, so he should be 51 this year
>>291354003I really don't get this argument. Obviously we're following the story of the special one who actually manages to do it and not the losers who failed. Every single pirate crew who wants to claim the One Piece eventually has to contend with the emperors and the world gov which requires unyielding willpower, the ability to decipher the poneglyphs to actually find it, and be extremely strong. Even the voice isn't a unique ability since we've encountered several characters who have it to some capacity.You've confused the idea of "the One Piece could be found by anyone" with "the One Piece could be found by everyone" somehow.
>>291367634Juan Pissers will defend this
>>291367958It's just a commonly accepted rule in any world where people can manifest something out of thin air that you don't do this because it would totally break the setting. Anyone who didn't have some kid of protective barrier around his body would be totally worthless as a fighter the minute that a devil fruit user who can manifest hands, fire, shockwaves, etc. showed up, and that would be the new meta.
>>291368525I mean, Oda could've just made it that there are moments a logia user could be hit normally
>>291361420I mean at some point he must have liked it.
>>291368579But he isn't special because he did it/will do it, instead he will do it because he is predestined special.
>>291367634Recycling would imply that the new one would be even remotly as good as the original.Aldo did you forget about Dressrosa and like half a dozen devil fruits being literal paintjobs of Alabaster ones?
>>291354003If Roger already knew the destined one would appear, was the Great Age of Pirates even necessary? I get you need to help destiny and all, but how is this helping? The One would go out to the sea anyway, just like Roger or Joy Boy did.
>>291355008My crack theory is Crocodile is the real Whitehead son
>>291368525The ability to hit Logia's should've been something tied to Conqueror's Haki specifically.
>>291361420literally the only time that Luffy ever laid hands on a woman, she had to be fat and ugly. Alvida and Big Mom.Oda is mentally a boomer, he relegates women to support roles, and in the few instances they fight a man, they either have a clear disadvantage or are just stalling until a male ally tags in. I mean, Rebecca didn’t even do much against Diamanté, nor did Robin, they had to stall until Kyros stepped in.his solution to Ulti and Page One kicking Usopp’s and Nami’s teeth in was to have Big Mom intervene and knock them out herself, and even then, Nami needed a hand-me-down in the form of nerfed Zeus to defeat Ulti.
>>291352760For me it was really disappointing how Bonney didn't awaken her Conqueror's haki during Egghead. It's really obvious that she is one of the few characters in the series who deserves to have it, and her confrontation with Saturn was the perfect set-up for her Haki to awaken, similar to how it happened to Ace when he was a kid. Meanwhile someone like Yamato has Conqueror's haki solely because she is Kaido's kid. At least now that Zoro and Sanji are mastering their Conqueror's haki, Oda will showcase again how it's tied to a character's development, awakening or struggle. In fact I like that Zoro is mastering his so effortlessly.
>>291369158He punched Vivi in the face.
>>291369180forgot about that… still, that’s early one piece shenanigans, and that wasn’t like a fighting hit.
>>291369180>Old Piece
>>291369168The only people who should have Conquerors Haki, are people that are as strong as the Yonko. It should be as many as five tops in the world who should have it.
...When did Concquerors turn from pure metaphysical pressure into lightning shitfests?I guess it was bound to happen that one grows apart with it, if the manga isn't allowed to grow up with its fanbase. If anything it has become even more infantile and flanderized. And no, evermore grimderp backstories is not something 'mature'
>>291369779Haki went from you being such a badass pirate all the pussies around you faint and ships crack from your big balls and you can punch fire hard enough to hurt it, to being secret future-past technology the good space god seeded in humanity to stop the evil space devil with his evil blacki.Lame as fuck.
>>291369779Doffy vs Luffy
>>291363535absolutely based
>>291369180>the fact that luffy punched Vivi once invalidates all the sexism in a thousand chapters of one piece!I sighed heavily
jwu how was the latest chapter
>>291370272meh & eh desu
>Gunko's dad>Gunko's eyes>Why Imu values Gunko so much>Biblo's secret>The books Saul rescued from Ohara>Loki's hybrid formAny other mystery boxes from this arc?
>>291370706Ragnir's secret treasure
>>291370706>kidd's whereabouts>louis arnote warning guests not to stay on elbaf too long>why shanks captured loki and why loki hates him>mosa/shaggy>the devil fruit rocks wanted>why chopper can tap the domi reversi souls out of giants>who is burning mariejoisThere's a lot going on with imu right now but those might get explained in the next few chapters
>>291366489>>291366509>>291366794>>291363779>>291357549>>291358033>>291370937They cute
>>291370706The heaven realm.
funny how a lot of liberal retards read one piece as a Space Pirate Captain Harlock-lite, amazing series btw, I recommend to get through the break week, I even consider it to be a better pirate story than one piece but I digress>actually is a pirate that fights an oppressive totalitarian goverment(which is a universal value to fight a goverment you dont like)anyways meanwhile Luffy is >became a pirate simply because pirates are cool>mostly fights other pirates>when the whole point is so he can show people that not all pirates are scumbag to rethink the idea of a pirate>his dream to be pirate king is based on him just thinking thats the coolest thing ever >libtards keep reading Luffy as a revolutionary liberator from the government when there are literally other characters that actually has that role
>>291354236Fuck Togashi nigga, imagine if old Oda (East blue~Skypiea) did Elbaf
>>291369004This makes way more sense than the Luffy mom theories lolI think it's something to do with him being betrayed by everyone and doompilling so hard he asked Ivankov to make him manlier, when in reality he was supposed to be an effeminate scrawny nerdy twinkThis would connect lots of things
>>291355246Nigger please, Law's fruit in theory could also one shot everybody yet he never did because Oda kept pitting him against opponents with stronk haki
>>291371684OP is not revolutionary, the people who think so are midwitsAlmost every plot in OP is about some sort of natural hierarchy being usurped by evil men (the actual revolutionaires) who then turn themselves into illegitimate authority figures. Leftists can't distinguish legitimate and illegitimate authorities, which is why they think OP is about breaking away with hierarchy, when in every single arc the natural rulers, the people with actual authority are put back into power.This is, despite Oda's kinks, a weirdly right-wing/traditionalist story beat desu
>>291355008>>291369004I remember reading an even crazier theory where Croc had sex with genderbent Dragon
>>291371775Crocomom is a shitpost, femCroc is not.
>>291372292Femcroc is just as gay and lame, but it does make a little more senseI prefer my theory though, and it'd be more embarrassing than him being a stuck up ojoumsama wanting to play pirate king before being scarred by whitebeard
>>291371093out of 10
>>291352760All the unmodified male fighters have it. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Jinbei, Usopp. Brook is a skeleton and Franky is a cyborg, and Zoro proved breathing is tied to haki with breath of all things. Their modified bodies likely don't breath the same way to generate haki, assuming Franky himself doesn't already have haki. Chopper on the other hand is a deer using a fruit to be human.Practically only the women are missing out.
sloppy toppy from ishilly
>>291372606wtf haki is hamon all along?
>>291354608Steal the power of Davy?
bonney feet
>>291372606>Their modified bodies likely don't breath the same way to generate hakthat ain't the kind of worldbuilding oda is prone to do.
>>291354608If Imu never existed, he'd be living a relatively normal and peaceful life with his parents who are very much alive
>>291372655She looks like she rims human men
>>291373048holy based she probably does
why'd he job so hard?
>>291373139He didn't. That's not jobing, retard.
>>291373139old
>>291373139he went there to save Coby, he didn't expect to come out alivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fregObNcHC8
>>291373240>fails to take out even one of the newer weak flunkiesThat is 100% jobbing. Literally only Kuzan should have still been conscious by the time Garp lost.
>>291373139To sow conflict and discord in Kuzan's heart
>>291373360>I wouldn't do this kind of thing for you Kuzan BWAHAHA
>>291373139It's still not clear where his loyalties lie.
>>291372725BASEDPost timeskip Chimney is so good
>>291373667Garp believes in the idea of the Marines and even when shown that they're controlled by literal demons the cognitive dissonance wont allow him to admit that the Marines are on the wrong side.you know, boomer stuff.
>namis va who is the youngest, is rapidly decliningIs she next on the chopping block?
>>291371684>the world is controlled by self-deifying "chosen ones" who destroy national sovereignties, have intelligence agents and assassins at their disposal, rewrite and censor history, manipulate newspapers, and secretly worship satanI'm actually surprised that they don't lose their shit over the setting itself.
>>291374092I hope the remake has recast Nami and Robin
>>291370706Whoever the fuck "Dozan" is. Fucking Zanzibart ass name drop.
>>291371684Yeah, anyone with a brain can tell Luffy is a leftist with praxis, not a liberal yearning for politically correct authoritarianism
>>291371684i remember when the epstein files were being released and i saw OP fans talking about how oda was trying to tell us the truth with vegapunk on egghead, and i've never wanted more to find someone and beat them within an inch of their life before or since
So what's with all the doomposting exactly? Did spoilers drop?
>>291374581elbaph fell off in quality after the flashback wrapped up
>>291374595Nah. This feels inorganic. There a tranny raid or something?
>>291374605trannies are the only ones that like NuPiece
>>291354236I feel like in the hands of another writer Loki would probably be much more of a wild card for the arc instead of another misunderstood hero or whatever.
>>291374581Break week, idiot.
>>291374639>I feel like a person who isn't Oda wouldn't do something different to what Oda would dook
>believes in cutting off old people from parasitizing the younger generationhe was a hero, we just couldn't see it
>>291353164haki just means they lost because they lacked aura
>>291354663Oda always draw Luffy with glasses in 'modern world AU' artI'm not sure if he's hinting that Luffy is canonically poor-sighted, or just that if Luffy had access to libraries from a young age he'd be a huge nerd and get bad eyes from reading all the bug encyclopedias and fantasy novels
>>291374750No seriously, what kind of complete and utter retard thinks a page like has too many words and it needs to be highlighted to avoid confusion?
>>291361420he did a whole island of women that love to fight and get stronger
>>291374911highlighted AND underlined
>>291355008Hes probably related to luffys mom, maybe her brother
>>291373872Misunderstanding. Let's think of the Marines as a dog and of the WG as its owner... Garp is someone who loves the dog and hates the owner.
>>291372725>crushUnderstandable>bonerNo chance
>>291357042>>291357053This website is not for you (singular). Go to bluesky or something.
>>291367634>recycling but with le funni faces
>>291375216Nobody ever stopped posting ancient bait on /a/ because somebody told them to go awaylearn the meta
>>291370706>Gunko's dadAlready saw him>Why Imu values Gunko so muchHer eyes>The books Saul rescued from OharaNot a mystery
Zoro needs to let me bounce on his cock for a change
>>291352644>>43036724>>43036734>>43036777You cant make this up
>>291354013Buggy D. Clown
>>291354013And his name is Eiichiro Oda
>>291375282One Piece?
>>291375282idgi
>>291375292Blobmu is Buggy under a blanket.
Remember this well...the unshakable essence that fuels conqueror's haki...is one's sense of self!!
>>291375681This is a Shanks downscale.
>>291375282>all but op deleted?
>>291375268Chopper...
>>291371684Luffy's motivations are not that relevent when discussing that point, he might not think of himself as a freedom fighter in universe, but still nearly every arc is about an evil tyranical ruler doing bad things that makes Luffy mad until he punches them very hard.
>>291375704The three dead posts are from 15 years ago. No, I don't know why anon did that.
>>291375704ignore the malfunctioning chatbot
Bonney... Jarul....
just a hundred more chapters till Zoro unlocks Enma's bankai
>>291372606>All the unmodified male fighters have it.>SanjiAnyway the deeper point isn't that the can't be strong without haki, but that since haki represents willpower, having the main characters lack it while even random lackey have it feels goes against the messaging of the series.
>>291354013two scenarios:1) Imu is the final villian. Then Luffy's crew, and many other crews including blackbeard's and shank's crews, team up to fight, IMU's incoming third/ultimate form. IMU could possibly even have 4 four forms, if Oda decides to imitate Freeza from DBZ. Like how Freeza has his base form/1st form/second form/third form, technically 4 forms. You can see how in the mural IMU is gigantic, even several times bigger than Loki, so it would make sense for him to have 2 more forms that make him progressively larger.2)Blackbeard somehow manages to steal IMU's powers, avenging his father, and becomes outrageously powerful. Then Luffy and other top dogs like Loki and Shanks will team up to fight Blackbeard. The rest of Blackbeard's crew will be taken out by the strawhats.
>>291375268kiku....
>>291352760I actually agree. Robin and Franky at the very least should have armament haki. It was actually weird to me that Robin's Demonio Fleur form that she used against Black Maria was not confirmed to use armanent haki.
>>291375961
>>291375961>>291376038Stop posting this shit
>>291352644>Thread still upWhat killed the hype?
>>291376076Break week.
>>291376038But that's what Sanji wants to do to Kiku
>>291376071no
>>291376094What did you think of Sanji wanting to fuck Kiku?
>>291376108Kiku is straight, she doesn't do T4T
Who takes this?
>>291376152Le Kaido
>>291376152Ray
>>291376152Al Qaedo
>>291376152Dragon Kai D. Ou > Base Rocks >= Prime Roger >> Prime GaylyRayleigh gets Zoro diffed.
>>291352760Oda simply won't take the risk he's playing the story safe. Same reason why a new monster trio with jimbei in the middle didn't happen
>>291355515BB is my nonbinary hero
>>291357003To meet Sogeking
>>291376152is this a joke? Kaido would wipe the floor with Rayleigh, prime or not.
>>291376152Rayleigh is implied to be stronger.
>>291358605Why is Zoro kissing her severed hand?
>>291376307He is a vampire
>>291359595Oops meant for>>291359765
>>291376038Imagine the smell
SUPA Sommers solos all of Onigashima, btw, Queen and King included. THE Kaido would still win high-diff, maybe extreme diff
>>291376128>she doesn't do T4TShe does with me
>>291376329Not if Big Bro was there.
>>291376291Have you taken imu scaling into account?
>>291376497Oda's assistants are pretty good at drawing wood.
>>291376565I kind of love how manga assistants practice their drawing by doing backgrounds.I wonder if any of Oda's assistants became notable.
>>2913765993 of his former assistants are currently in weekly shonen jump
>>291376618Bookmarking this and coming back in a year to see if any of these weren't axed.
>>291376630>Akane Banashi ongoing since 2022>Ruri Dragon ongoing since 2022>Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi ongoing since 2024They're doing pretty alright, aren't they? Though I think RuriDragon moved to Jump+
>>291376630if they are they'll go back to being assistants until they get their next one shot like Endo, Jump tends to be patient.
>Zoro learns Conquerers Haki>Weaponizing his self-belief, will and pride through his blades>Takes Gram after making Sommers flee>Four-Sword Style>wut>Zoro's handling of who he is falls back into his childish belief, but now utilized into a new swordstyle to juggle an extra blade among attacks>Matches his SBS 40/60 year old SBS good timeline thoughtline>Is increadibly stupid of a way to progress the character that is entirely believable to the character>Zorofans will hype it as the greatest character triumph ever>5 Sword Style becomes the new Gear Death
>>291376400yamatoes
>>291376618only one of the three I liked is Akane-Banashi, it's so refreshing
>>291352644I know it's pointless to argue with (not) Seinen fans. But why are people afraid of the word “retcon”? Is it some kind of “writing scale” that I'm supposedly unaware of?
>>291376862The way it works is if there's a word under which something can be categorized, that thing can then be completely dismissed.>oh it's a retcon? I know what a retcon is, I no longer need to engage with this material, it's been solved. Retcon is the correct answer.>oh it's a damsel in distress trope? I know what that is. I no longer need to engage with this material, it's been solved. The damsel in distress trope is the correct answer.>oh it's a three act structure? I know what that is....etc.It's this unique phenomenon that occurs on the internet where dumb people need to categorize stories under specific terms so they can file them away and stop thinking about them.
>>291376862Because if you have to do that it means you didn't have enough oversight as a writer, which is not good.
Powerscalers are niggers
>>291376862having to retcon is an acknowledgement straight from the writer that they fucked up entirely through lack of proper planning or foresight, so of course when you get to modern media fandoms that treat the authors of the things they like as essentially extensions of themselves and their word as gospel, that part of their lizard brains that starts pouting and hissing when they have to acknowledge being wrong kicks in
>>291376307its her special arm...
>>291376936>get your filthy fucking man hands off me you disgusting mentally ill tranny. I might kill youI bet that’s what he was thinking probably something like that. The notion of a man calling themselves a woman probably repulses him given Kuina.
Will Gunko stop being cool when she stops wearing Groh's hat?
>>291372803You have to understand haki is obviously based on ki, such as iron body technique and no touch ki. The basis of ki is breathing techniques.
>>291352827It's actually good and smart of Oda, because finding a unique way to deal with all 10 or so Logia's in the series would get boring after 1000 chapters.
>>291376936>Oh Zoro-dono spread your asshole and fart in my tranny mouth
>>291376152Rayleigh no contest. The Roger pirates trio were clearly on a different level. Gaban outperformed Luffy despite being severely injured, old, fruitless, and taking a hit against Imu to save someone else, per Imu. And Luffy has been growing in haki since reaching Elbaf so he's already stronger than when he fought Kaido.A prime uninjured Rayleigh, who Roger confirmed is his partner and thus likely equal, would heem Kaido.
>>291377083Qi flows through all things, even stones and air, so jot that down
>>291377156And what did Zoro so when he unlocked Breath of all Things? He was able to dodge rocks by sensing his energy. BREATH of all things.Jot that down.
>>291377176One may also remember Zoro hearing the drums... but that's another matter.
>>291377176>>291377156I'm jotting as fast as I can
>>291377176I really need to stop typing on mobile.
>>291377008Zoro isn't a chud.
>>291371883>weirdly right-wing/traditionalist story beat desuonly ironically if you interpret as such, which is something both sides do but the liberals definitely are more serious about it, anyways, like I said, fighting authority that you don't like is a universal value, otherwise you can call both hitler and stalin a freedom fighter for fighting authority, they didn't likeOne Piece doesn't actually preach politics to the reader to how people should live and thats why it has mass appeal and the values are universal, is not like the western slop you would see preaching to the audience what men should be like more directly take kamabaka kingdom for example>the right can interpret it as Oda calling gays a bunch of creepy groomers that want Sanji to be gay and forces him too>the left can interpret it as Oda saying is okay to be gay and men can be queen(more so Impel Down with Ivankov telling someone whats wrong with having 2 dads and never being challenged about it)when what Oda's true intent is to make an entertaining island about fags, not really to preach a political message
>>291377176come to think of it I wonder if Dragon Veins/Leylines are a thing in One Piece and they just haven't been rediscovered since 99% of them are underwater now
>>291377254>One Piece doesn't actually preach politics to the reader to how people should live"starving peasants bad, forced labor bad, enough food to go around good, freedom to choose your life for yourself regardless of the circumstances of your birth good" is still a political take, and one a lot more people oppose than you might think
>>291377256>I'll show you some dragon veins>*Drunkenly whips out cock*>WORORORORORO
>>291377256Now that you mention it though dragons and devils can be interchangeable in a lot of ways in One Piece.For example the celestial dragons, think about it. Dracula is Romanian for either Son of the Devil or Son of the Dragon. The Celestials themselves are called Dragons but their king is the devil. If you look at Richie the Lion's cover story way back in 1998 he has an identical cover dream to the Elbaf mural and Harley Texts. The beast he fights looks more dragon like than devil like, and this is the arc right after Mihawk (again his name is important as it's derived from Dracula) is introduced. If we assume that Mihawk actually is Imu's son, this changes everything. His name would play to either Dragon or Devil son as mentioned before. Both Mihawk and Imu have special ringed eyes. Both have the ability to turn something black, be it flames or a sword.I go on this rant because of how Imu described Maki as an energy all things have. If both Imu and Mihawk can see it, it would be tied to Zoro's breath of all things, which likely came from Ryuma as his swordsmanship is derived from Ryuma's, and Ryuma was also a black blade creator. Vegapunk also pointed out an invisible infinite energy source existing everywhere that he wanted to harness, that Luffy couldn't see.Point being, perhaps maki and haki are ying and yang. The dragon/devil and his son can both see the dark energy pouring out of the Dragon Veins and harness it; and Ryuma with his special technique learned to harness it and Mihawk intends for Zoro to learn to see it as well so he took Zoro's eye to make him like Ryuma.Notice Zoro also has a lot of Dragon named moves as well? And devil like haki abilities like Asura and King of Hell? And the Elbaf mural said beneath the earth there is fire (hell)? Interesting no? Perhaps Zoro has been cultivating maki himself.
>>291377276>starving peasants baduniversal value, the right often say communism bad because people stave even>forced labor baduniversal value and when people agree with forced labor is usually for punishment which still falls on forced labor bad being a universal value>enough food to go around gooduniversal value, see the first point>freedom to choose your life for yourself regardless of the circumstances of your birth gooduniversal value, you would be taught by both sides to do this and choose your own path
>>291377379you say universal value but the actual policies speak otherwise, especially when it comes to making the rich richer and protecting the longevity of the current regime
>>291371684Agreed. It’s astounding that people call Luffy a revolutionary when he doesn’t actually give a rat’s ass about the World Government outside of when it concerns him directly.
Kiku probably has many diseases.
>>291377367>I go on this rant because of how Imu described Maki as an energy all things haveIt seemed to me he was saying maki is the power of dominion, and he sees it as universal in the sense of the way hierarchies emerge.Imu also said it was utterly preposterous for Elbaf to be functioning for so long without appointing a new king to replace Harald.There also seems to be conflicting interpretations between characters about the nature of Supreme King haki. Some talk about it as basically the manifestation of the right to rule, but others describe it more in terms of refusing to be ruled over and being your own master
>>291352644zoro always had the worst fights.
>>291377444you're thinking of Hiyori
>>291377409He goes around restoring monarchies and putting down the rebel forces and globalist world government everywhere he goes and has taken more treasure than Britain from native lands.He's basically the British empire at this point.
>>291377498he goes around removing both foreign and local dictatorships and the people that replace them always rule with consentWhich you really can't say about the british empire or the american empire
>>291377498This is disingenuous since he fights bad monarchy for good monarchy since monarchy is just the default government structure, the monarchy doesn't have political intentLike Kuma fought a bad king so they deemed him a good king
>>291377478Hiyori is a virgin just like me.
>>291377610headcanonists will never accept that Hiyori was canonically scamming people out of their money who paid to have sex with her but were too bashful to do anything when she was like "and here's the futuon where you'll sleep next to me. Goodnight"
>>291377631The sex part is not canon. They just slept next to her gently.
>>291377708That's what I'm saying
The protagonist of this manga reminds me of Sanji
>>291377727Sanji will never be as cool as Ryo Saeba
>>291377631>headcanonists will never accept that Hiyori was [headcanon cope]I suppose an SBS revealed Denjiro taught her to sell her body then get a refund on her virginity?
>>291377446You're not gonna believe this but Oda gave Asura and Omen the same sound effects.
>>291377757I agree but he does remind me of Sanji
>>291377888the manga itself revealed that Denjiro kept her ignorant of the fact that everyone assumed she was a sex worker, and Hiyori never offered sex to her clients nor hat it stolen from herI'm not even some purity fag. If she had been an actual sex worker like Mariah I wouldn't give a shit. But the fact is she never had sex with her clients. It's not like Hancock and her sisters where the sexual abuse at the hands of the CD's was implied without being stated
>>291377893for reals?
>>291377932>7
>>291377932Are you sure this is allowed bro?
why break?
>>291377932Gunko is an anal slut?
>>291377932built for pronebone
>>291377932https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyH33HMYJbo
>>291377213
Is break week over yet?
>>291377922>sex worker
If Luffy had the resin fruit this manga wouldn't be so fucking dead
>>291378014it's a living flintstones.jpg
>>291377939In bed but ye
>>291378075I was sure all the resinfags killed themselves all these years ago as part of a suicide pact with byakkofags.
>>291378141Huhwhat sound is that anyway? zawa zawa zawa?
>>291378247We FKMT now?
>>291352760Oda secretly hates haki
>>291378273That's what I'm asking
>>291374338They all need recast honestly. All their voices are so hoarse and most of the voice actors sound winded with every line. It isn't enjoyable to listen to.
>>291378008Come back on Monday night
I am an OG fan and i miss serious One Piece, Gear 5 ruined it by turning it a looney tunes episode
>>291378823no if it was looney tunes it'd actually be funny
>>291378838Same, i miss when One Piece was funny for instance when he farted to propulse himself against Crocodile, now that's funny
>>291378823I think One Piece is actually less funny than before. Gear 5 having looney tunes power is just that; a power. It doesn't automatically make things funny.
>>291378823its not loony tunesits tom & jerry
>>291377444You’re thinking of Carrot, animals are normally extremely filthy
I can't believe Sommers is dead.
>>291378645Sanji, Zoro, Usopp, Chopper and Brook sound fine. Jinbei sounds fine but he's old. Same with Luffy, but they really should have recast Mayumi Tanaka for the new adaption as she wished.its really just Nami and Robin that sound like grannies, Kazuki Yao already had to retire from Franky. The new Franky sucks.
>>291378912Nah it's looney tunes, this is gear 5
If you could have any character join the Strawhats, who would it be, and why? For creativity’s sake, it has to be a character that was never “in the running” for joining, like Yamato, Carrot, Paulie, Tama, Bonney, Kinemon/Momo, etc. Loki and Gaimon also excluded since Luffy directly asked them as well.
>>291378961>facebook filename
>>291378968yes, and?
>>291378962You calling Oda a liar?
>>291378968LOL is that what those are, I’ve seen them around before.>>291378964Katakuri, Becca, or Bon Clay
Sanji is AGP
>>291379029also if a filename ends in [1] it means someone went right click-> copy image location, and then just copy pasted it into filename field in the file upload window, essentially posting a temporary internet file without manually saving it
>One piece and Oda are sexistI suppose OP isn't so bad after
>>291354364Yeah what this guy said >>291354236The knights would have way more agency and the flashback part with Rocks wouldn't be a thing as he rarely does flashbacks, Zoro may win solo but with ability sacrificing results, like a broken blade or a cut arm
>>291379154the discussion of AGP is silly because getting the kind of body you always wanted and feeling sexy from looking at yourself is such a stock standard scene in media. Like Bateman admiring his gains in the mirror while barely paying attention to the women he's having sex with. That's auto-androphilia. Likewise the scene in Mean Girls where Karen rubs her ass while looking at her reflection, getting excited by her own beauty. That's auto-gynophilia too.Feels like the whole meme was born from online demographics that can't comprehend the idea of feeling sexy
>>291376152Ray wins highdiff
what's next for them?
>>291380030wheres Petan
>>291380040training and gaping Momo
>>291380040In my rape dungeon
we love Page1 here
>>291381110Indeed we do
>>291354013International judaism
>>291354285>and he's on a timerPopular headcanon, not a fact.
>>291360115Kek
>>291381682Low IQ
>>291381579...was incinerated by a white guy.
>>291381874My IQ could be nothing and you'd still be wrong to push a headcanon like it's a fact.
>>291381941>My IQ is 0Its what its...
>>291359229
>>291381110Paypay and Brulee marriage
>>291379198Cool, thanks for the info based techno wizard.>t. 30 year old boomer in training
>>291382793>does he know?
What a WHORE
>>291383622Based on Oda's wife.
>>291383772Kuma is based in Oda btw.
>based in
>>291383960Oda's hole is just that gaped, I'm afraid. Kuma runs a whole Rev side op out of there.
one piece has always had comically bad writing. oda's whole schtick is just wasting everybody's time until he comes up with something good. I can't wait for this story to be over one day so people realize how 99% of it was irrelevant schlock. the ending probably won't even be good, the one piece will end up just being some bullshit like "love and piece"
>>291383622my hotwife Nami
>>291385245ok
The amount of seething that One Piece’s greatness causes only helps to fuel my love of the manga. Do I love everything in it? Fuck no, but by and large it is more fun and more well written than pseudo-intellectual slop like HxH where nothing of importance is ever discussed beyond the most facsimile of philosophical topics without ever delving into the actual subject matter (ie Tse namedropping authors for no reason than as a wikipedia-fueled minor exposé in attempt to sound erudite).Even moreso, the decade of seething from the JJK/Black Clover/BnH-type fanbase of modern normie anime due to being unable to tackle complex and multi-faceted issues beyond DragonBall Super-era screaming and powerscaling has been quite the phenomenon to witness, and their fall from popularity and relevancy almost makes one wonder if they were just failed industry plants with no substance in the first place.At least DragonBall and Bleach fanboys have self-respect and are honest in the same way that One Piece fans are, that all three of these series have extremely high highs as well as lows, as does any story whether ancient or modern.
>>291385624Inb4 this triggers a melty/schizophrenic attack like the JJK nigga on the catalog with his spam one piece thread
>>291385624>HxH out of nowhereObsessed
>>291385624THEY DIDN'T LIKE THIS ONE, CHIEF
>>291385854You've samefagged your own post twice now
>>291385624Doug Walker with a monocle
>>291385624>At least DragonBall and Bleach fanboys have self-respectLet's not get crazy, here...
>>291385789Nobody ITT would think or talk about HxH if you didn’t sit in here all day spamming the thread talking about it or calling people “pissers” (ironic coming from the fanbase of guys who piss their pants because of a pedophile clown’s powerlevel).
>>291385891Only Pisstards bring up HxH unprompted in an attempt to deflect from this trash series
>>291385624YOU TAKE THAT BACK!! JJK WAS BELOVED AND SOLD A LOT OF COPIES THAT ONE YEAR, THAT MEANS IT WAS THE BEST MANGA EVER!!!
>>291385922It's too dead to be samefagging like this lilbro, you're making it too obvious
>>291385891Lmao is this shit fr? Why does this idiot dress up like a school shooter, is it to relate to the audience?
>>291385891Kill yourself, itoddler. Togashi shits all over Oda.
>>291385891
>>291385954One Piece has actual trannies
>>291385624>Do I love everything in it? Fuck no, but [cope]LMAO
I gained the capacity of a king by rimjobbing one daily for two years.
Focus, L.
>>291385624>>291385738Anon used Future Sight.
>>291385971So does HxH, and Naruto, and Bleach, and JJK. Basically every anime besides DragonBall. And that’s a good thing that they do
>>291386173>Anon says stupid shit>surprised people laugh at him Whoa
>>291385954He was testing his abilities (basically King Crimson, but better explained) on a rival prince's guards, but the princes aren't allowed to kill people out in the open iirc.Then, he wandered into a casino, where you-know-who was, who sensed his reitsu, and "killed" him (or he would have, if not for Tse's ability).
I like Hunter X Hunter AND One Piece. What now?
>>291386237You can sit in the cool kids' table with me
>>291386260You’re not cool though.
>>291386237I've never read any of Togashi's manga and I probably never will
>>291386297Sure I am. Check this out.
>>291385955>Hiatusboi can’t help but be obsessed with piss and shit.No wonder it’s so popular in a “certain subcontinent”.
>>291386304YuYu Hakusho, Level E and HunterxHunter are all legit good, shitposting aside.
>>291385624Hall of fame contender post, is /opg/ finally back?
>>291386333Is it?
>>291386408No, it’s not popular anywhere
>>291386408https://trends.google.com/explore?q=%2Fm%2F03b4h6&date=today%201-y&geo=WorldwideHxH is mostly popular in the Middle East, OP is mostly popular in European countries. The top two, Myanmar and Philippines are notable exceptions but this is due to the One Piece flag being used as a political protest symbol especially in Burma.https://trends.google.com/explore?q=one%2520piece&date=today%201-y&geo=Worldwide
>>291355311damn i want an ice cold pepsi now
>>2913856248/10, is this Van Augbro, if so glad to see you again friend.
hardly anything in One Piece is actually politicalto be political there has to be an element of alienation which is what most people mean by something being "too political", like you would see with wokeslop alienating straight white males, therefore universal values that don't alienate anyone isn't really political, sent is not even part of this whole "culture war" thing, no one talks about policies when he mean to political, like no one cares about the taxes in a fictional world cuz it doesn't disrupt anyone's escapism nor alienates themI'm not saying that one piece doesn't have anything political but usually the examples I see are not actually political at all, the closet example of one piece doing this is ivankov lecturing a would be assassin telling him theres nothing wrong with your dad being gay actually and never being challenged for it but that's a blink and you'll miss it moment
>>291387323>to be political there has to be an element of alienationImmediately, instantly wrong. To be political is to talk about politics.
>>291387572no because that's not what people mean by it this year most of the time no one actually cares about what if one country's tax policy in fiction be real with yourself
>>291387632>no because that's not what people mean by it this year most of the timeI don't care what people mean by it, I am giving you the definition. If everyone else in the world is wrong, that's on them.Oh, also, cute you're trying to do the "le tax policy" Martin meme, I hope the irony isn't lost on you.
>>291387733whatever man, is not my job understand semantics for you after explaining itto actually be on subject what group of reader does one piece actually alienate? as in what one piece moment is owning the x? the instances of that would be depicted certain troons as uggo(though not all to be fair) and like I said with that moment in Impel Down with Ivankov troonifying a man and telling him it's okay that his dad is gay, fighting oppressive forces isn't really owning the chud that was, since everyone agrees you should fight oppressive forces and no one is alienated there
>>291387892uh sex
>>291387323Identity politics are not actual politics, twitterbro,
One Piece won so hard.
>>291388023if you say so but that's literally all people talk about when it comes to one piece politics, about >95% of "One Piece is political discourse is>this wepwesent my side guiseyou are lying if you're saying otherwise, and funny you're saying Twitter because this is like everywhere, no one here talks about politics outside of treating characters as representative of a thing either
>>291388264If that is all you are seeing in regards to One Piece that is more a reflection of yourself and the people you choose to spend your time with. You need to be a better man (tm).
>>291387892Damn, that is some FINE Carrot cake.
>>291388370who does that alienate who disagrees with this?
>>291378823Luffy having silly powers is different from their being no sense of damage or scales combined with maniacal laughing while people he cares about are killed in front of him
>>291388023All politics are identity politics retard.
>>291388563like come on even eith race, creed and sex out of the equation, there are still political parties that becomes someone's identity, as far as americans go atleast, I don't care about other countries
>>291388563>Identity politics refers to political beliefs and systems that prioritize the interests, experiences, and concerns of specific social groups defined by shared identities—such as race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or ethnicity—often in contrast to traditional class-based or broad party politics.Yeah (You) retarded xitter mongoloids need to go for a walk outside, genuinely sitting behind a dimly lit LED screen is rotting your feeble synapses.
>>291377254>only ironically if you interpret as suchNo, I mean it. Reinstating legitimate authority based on natural hierarchy is a traditionalist story beat.>fighting authority that you don't like is a universal valueYou probably lack historical and political insight if this is how you read things. Framing people fighting against illegitimate authority as "freedom fighters" is a very simple-minded take as well, which suggests to me you have the same degree of literacy as a lefty, you're just less biased.>One Piece doesn't actually preach politics to the reader to how people should liveIt does all the time>the values are universalNo, you're just so used to only seeing the same things being preached they don't sound like preaching, just like common sense. You're the definition of a fish that doesn't know water exists.>take kamabaka kingdomBoth interpretations are (kinda) correct. Oda obviously portrayed them as freaks and creeps but with a heart of gold in a subversive attempt to make the viewer look past the appearances. This is why he shows these ugly freaks doing heroic feats all the time, from Bon-chan to the two fags donating blood.>Oda's true intent is to make an entertaining island about fagsYes, it's not a dichotomy.
>>291389033Adding to this>the values are universalValid, legitimate authority funded upon natural hierarchy is a value so antithetical to modern politics that it makes you sound like a retard if you try to fly this idea. Just look at how people talk about monarchists, or, even worse, feudalists lolThis is a BIG value Oda purports in his story. The entire "empty century" thing is very obviously shaping to be precisely about a legitimate hierarchy being overthrown in the founding of the world governmentI think you just lack theory of mind, and actual knowledge about the varying political positions, including Japanese politics to be able to make a proper analysis so you project your personal lack of interest into the story
>>291389033>Reinstating legitimate authority based on natural hierarchy is a traditionalist story beat.I don't think this is the actual intent of the story but it does do that ironically yes, since that is exactly what happened with Vivi and Rebecca, though technically if I'm not mistaken the doflamingo family or the original rulers of Dressrosa but I digressalso by preaching I mean, it doesnt argue with the audience like you would see in games like Suicide Squad which is damn near a hateletter to the long time fans of DC, but I should have said that so that's my fault
>>291389247furthermore maybe yes people should stop throwing the word politics so loosely, since like I said when people say something is "too political" they really mean "this alienates me" most of the time, rather than talk about the actual politics in fictionlike when people "graphics don't matter, artstyle does" they really mean "fidelity don't matter, making the visuals pretty and interesting does"
>>291389247>>291389369>I don't think this is the actual intent of the story but it does do that ironically yesProve it, nigger. This isn't just the case with Vivi and Rebecca, almost every arc is like this all the way down to axe-hand Morgan.>if I'm not mistaken the doflamingo family or the original rulers of DressrosaNo, they were founded upon an illegitimate claim since they took the place after the void century>also by preaching I mean, it doesnt argue with the audience>when people say something is "too political" they really mean "this alienates me" most of the timeYou just mean it's not gay and lame, no need to project your own political neutrality into the story. One Piece is indeed a very political anime, even if it's deep as a puddle in it's portrayal of politics.
>>291389369>Prove it, nigger. This isn't just the case with Vivi and Rebecca, almost every arc is like this all the way down to axe-hand Morgan.I highly doubt this is the major theme of One Piece, this isn't a thought that comes across my mind when I consume one piece, the gist I get is that is a story about a protagonist and his friends chasing a boyhood dream mainly, nevertheless, it is up to the author to say the intent, not the audience>No, they were founded upon an illegitimate claim since they took the place after the void centurythank you I really just didn't remember this and that makes sensealso by preaching I mean, it doesnt argue with the audience>You just mean it's not gay and lameyes I do mean that>no need to project your own political neutrality into the story. One Piece is indeed a very political anime, even if it's deep as a puddle in it's portrayal of politics.what I'm saying is that when something is a universal value, the less "political" and by that word think of what people mean when people say "politicing" as a verb, like take pics related for example(I do not agree with this guy politics but I can be fair and think this is a solid take) rather than describing a system
>>291389661>I highly doubt this is the major theme of One Piece, because I can't see itNo shit, I just said you lack insight into politics and history and you're like the fish that doesn't know water exists. I didn't mean it as an insult.>it is up to the author to say the intentYou were JUST talking about how OP isn't political (meaning you, the audience, can ascertain the intent of the author)>also by preaching I mean, it doesnt argue with the audienceI know what you mean though, you're comparing OP with other, mostly western "stories" that overtly shill a single political position with an over the top fake moral ground. Here's what you actually mean: One Piece isn't political propaganda. It has politics within it, but it isn't meant as a PR campaign for any political position, at least not overtly, although it does so in some subversive, subtle ways.In this you're right. Anyone insisting OP is like that is a midwit, and sure enough, it's what a lot of people mean when they say OP is "political" (usually leftists).
>>291389438>No, they were founded upon an illegitimate claim since they took the place after the void centuryWhat makes that illegitimate? We're not told they stole the country or invaded or anything like that. The Doflamingos left an empty seat.
>>291390043>What makes that illegitimate?The entire story pointing towards the lack of legitimacy of every institution founded by the World Government since the void century?The only example of a 'legitimate' authority being deposed you'll find in the story is Wapol, because he had a legitimate claim to the throne. But you'll notice that Oda deliberately didn't make it so they usurped him, they actually took down the entire dynasty/kingdom and created a new one with a former, actually fit for governing member of the previous political class as it's leader. This was common all throughout medieval Europe and feudal Japan, and it's distinctly different from usurping or the modern 'freedom fighting' bullshit.Still, it is a counter argument and it shows that Oda writes this with some nuance. Wapol even goes on to build another country from scratch, showing that despite being evil he isn't incompetent, which is a real danger in the traditional way of things.
>>291389984it's more so that these things doesn't really come across my mind >One Piece isn't political propaganda. It has politics within it, but it isn't meant as a PR campaign for any political position, at least not overtly, although it does so in some subversive, subtle ways.>In this you're right. Anyone insisting OP is like that is a midwit, and sure enough, it's what a lot of people mean when they say OP is "political"yes
>>291390290Reminds me of all the xitter niggers claiming OP is communist lolYou'll notice that despite recognizing that the central theme in OP is weirdly right-wing/traditionalist, I also recognized previously that Oda puts in the efforts to subvert your disdain for fags and queers. He's an interesting man, I feel like Oda is the cursed admixture of a leftist (by Japanese standards), an old-school yamato damashii Jap and a perverted old man
>>291390392yeah I said before that most accurately Oda would be a liberal of the 80s-90s which by todays standards of certain people would be a nazi
