What will movie 5 be about?
>>291425860It will be about what it means to be a magical girl
>>291425881>You already are a girl
>>291425860Where do I watch the latest one? (for free)
Why did they delete the meduka kaiten thread :(
>>291426049Because Steins;Gate is better
>>291426055Steins gate has no legacy past the 2010sEven Higurashi is more relevant
>>291425860Sayaka being the devil's plaything and eventual lover is the hottest relationship dynamic possible besides homuhomu and you cannot convince me otherwise.>>291425881You will wear the Tuxedo Mask and you will like it>>291426049Mental illness general
I'll just be here. Waiting for the release. Don't mind me...
>>291426103But I wanted to try voicing the megukas..
>>291425860homura's grand crusade
>>291426037There are piratable camrips but I want to know when it will release on streaming platforms or BDs so we can get proper raws? There are no such announcements...I don't want to watch a camrip.......
New spinoff confirmed that Kyubey can’t lie
>>291426530Lying is, after all, brought about through emotionality. In a perfectly logical system, there is no need to fabricate information - you can achieve everything desired through omission.
In 2225 there will be AIslop magical girls, what time to be in space!
>>291426530Whenever Kyubey starts a sentence with "one could say" you can be sure that's going to be complete bullshit because one could say anything
>>291426530He still hides the truth by omission or theoreticals
>Make a Homura/Kyouko fusion character for his yuri fanfic>Make her the token straight girlI was unfamiliar with your game, Gengen.
>>291426723Yeah he really pushed the limits in magireco when the loli trio questioned him.
>>291426723"Lies of omission do not exist. The concept is a very human one. It is the product of your story writing again. You have written a story about the truth, making emotional demands of it, and in particular, of those in possession of it. Your demands are based on a feeling of entitlement to the facts, which is very childish. You can never know all of the facts. Only I can. And since it's impossible for me to reveal all facts to you, it is my discretion alone that decides which facts will be revealed in the finite time we have. If I do not volunteer information you deem critical to your fate, it possibly means that I am a scoundrel, but it does not mean that I am a liar. And it certainly means you did not ask the right questions.One can make either true statements or false statements about reality. All of the statements I make are true."- Doc Scratch
>>291426791>Homu rapecorrects Sayaka>now Not!Sayaka will do the same to her KyoHomu science babykinography
So, what is QBs master plan? I just realized he has access to the magireco girls since it was established that even if the record was scrapped by homu's time travel a copy remains in nazukasokotsune
>>291426827It's all semantics asshole!!!!!!!!
>>291425881There will be a trans magical girl within 5 years. Progress cannot be stopped
>>291426936Sorana is the closest you’ll ever get. A male author writing a self insert meguca story where he lusts over other girls.Her outfit also looks male.And she’s brown.
>>291426882More like>Homu and Sayaka both straight>The descendant of Kyouko’s son and Homura’s daughter will help Not!Sayaka grow out of her dyke phase
>>291425860This is too stimulating to be the op, please use another one next time.
>>291426997The author mentioned he wanted to write yuri before. Self-insert was not in his interest.
>>291426997>And she's brownThis has no relevance
>>291425860Holy canon
>>291426530Kyubey gaslighting megucas into believing that may be his greatest lie. Regardless a character statement is not word of God. The whole point is that Kyubey is really good at convincing people he can't lie despite the fact that he does so in the show.
>>291427223Kyubey is just a metaphor for the devil. Your soul in exchange for a wish. Sound familiar?
>>291426936Progress would be marching them to the gas chambers and the day there's a tranny magical girl is the day Madoka is truly dead to me.
Kyouko really is weird and sus sometimes.
>>291426612>AI genomeIs more like genetic engineering but there is already an artificial meguca in magia record
>>291427255>the day there's a tranny magical girl is the day Madoka is truly dead to me.Then you should be always prepared to leave, it's a real possibility.Why are you putting money on japanese? They have weird fetishes and some day can let you down. Don't tell me you believed all those lies like "only western see Madoka as yuri"
>>291426055S;G is overrated garbage, with the worst fanbase ever.
>>291427278Nah, you are.
>>291427245That's not the Devil from the Bible.
>>291427124True, she’s just tanned because she lives on earth which has become super hot for some reason
>>291427278Kyoko fucked Sayaka's corpse in the series.
>>291427392I was kind of hoping Kaiten would be THE end for Homura's story just because I know Japan's been getting jewed hard since before Rebellion even came out.
>>291427452Yeah well I'm not gonna go around saying Mephistopheles, so you're just gonna have to cope with the inaccuracy I'm afraid.
>>291427223Kyubei has yet to lie in the strict sense until now. He is a deceiver, not a lier.
>>291427427Well, if she have the Sorana stare, obviously is sus.
>>291427480That would be inaccurate too since Qb doesn't own your soul. He just gives you a temporary second life as a demon after you die.
>>291427497Kyubey openly admits he lied to Kyoko when Homura asks him about it after the fight with Oktavia. The idea that he can't lie because he has no emotions is equally stupid when in that scene he clearly displays understanding, intent, and even enjoyment of his act of deception. He just prefers to lie by omission most of the time to keep up his charade of honesty.
>>291427504I would say that he does own it since he always refers to the deals as though the soul were being traded, and he is the only other party in the trade to whom the soul might belong now. The gems are pieces of technology over which he has control.
>>291426055EL PSY KONGROOOOOO(I disagree though, I like Madoka better)
>>291427533He didn't lie to Kyoko and he didn't tell Homura he did either.
Can SUFFERING be used for energy? Just a thought. Akumura's biggest mistake was not stuffing Kyubey in a pain engine.
>>291427595Okay, Selma.
>>291427533The rat didn't lie, hear again what it said (or read with better subtitles), it said complete bullshit as if it was a possibility which is not lying.Is like saying that is not impossible that I can grow wings to fly through the skies, I just haven't seen such a phenomena nor I know how to do it, but maybe you are an exception and you can figure it out.
>>291427639This is self replying.Forgot to mention that part of the reason why Isabeau was dangerous even to that white rat is because she abused the fact that it can't lie so she kept asking the right questions.
>>291427639>>291427665>the character said he's not lying therefore he can't possibly be lying
>>291427598I mean, that's what it was implied Homura would do at the end of Rebellion. "We still need to deal with the curses. So, you'll stay to help."Too bad that was forgotten the very next movie
>>291427533Kyubey watches the girls change. This proves he has an emotion, lust. He also hates that bitch Selma
>>291427801Urobuchi is such a fucking hack.
>>291427614But he didn't though, he framed true statements in a way that implied hope.Although I guess you could say he lied by not counting wishes, in which case yes it is possible to turn a witch back into a magical girl. I am willing to write that off as special exception. As in, he does not know a method beyond the obvious reality rewriting mechanic that can do the otherwise impossible.(I'm pretty sure he didn't bring it up in that conversation but now I'm second guessing myself)
>>291427838He's not a hack because he's never made anything as bad as S;G 0.
>>291427786We can see from its act that Kyubei doesn't lie, the girls are just too stupid to see through its sophistry. We haven't seen an instance of Kyubei lying in the strict sense.
>>291427934That is an extremely low standard
>>291427838Steins;Gate fags are such stupid shitposters. Stop complaining about the writing in other anime, your show already has more than enough problems in it to nitpick.
>>291427469and she was based for that
It’s wild how this place used to have nonstop threads when Rebellion got worldwide screenings and now it can barely have one thread stay alive. The fanbase of Madoka died over the last ten years.
>>291427988You'll swallow anything Urobuchi shoves down your throat. You should be complaining
>>291427963True but I still think it's somewhat impressive if you write like a dozen different works and none of her sink that low.
Kyubey told Madoka that Cleopatra became a witch, therefore Kaiten has confirmed he can lie.
>>291428049I only complain about actually bad writing like everything the hack writers used to try and justify S;G's absurd plot.
>>291427934Gottem
>Steins;Gate fag wonders why nobody likes them or their animeYep, it's a real mystery this one.
>>291428190Groundhog Day completely mogs S;G by the way
>>291426936Troons are already saying it's ria from magireco
Homura is a cooler time traveler than okabe in my opinion
>>291427504Wasn't kyubey's whole thing turning hormonal middle school girls' emotions into some energy to combat entropy
>>291425860Adaptation of prostitute magica then movie 6 is the madoka gangbang arc
I want to go on a date with Mami.
>>291427499Not even the same look, or the same context. Lol
>>291427469Nah she was selling it
>>291428335No shit. Okabe is an actual fag
>>291428456But you won’t because only I will.
man the internet is truly ruined by forced cia narratives divisions and cultural warsi for one always wanted to be a girl cause i see a girls as madoka, caring, good, gentle beings ( real girls in pretty much all cases are not like that ) and i have never once prior to last decade encountered such forced fake emotional response with something that does not concern you in slightest, it is like pedophile hunters but for retards that cannot accept the fact that some people have imaginary world and set of things they wish were real but are not i wonder what is the next step in this entire mental retardationbeing mad at people for not wanting to eat meat, oh wait, that were trendy in 10s already i wish i could go back in time when this show first aired and was not pozzed by tiny brained retards that have no origninal thoughts in their heads
>>291428479Sorana gives the same stare to girls in different contexts.Kyouko is sus.
So Kaiten didn't delive explictly on the yuri end keeping status quo so they made this Sorano shit to cater to yurifags instead?
>>291428675At least the porn will be good.
Selma roleplay sex where she makes you wear a Kyubey fursuit.
>>291429085Weird but I'd do it.
I've never really thought that they would go with a Boko-like character with Selma. The audacity alone makes it worth my love.
>>291427499they're literally kissing in this scene, she's about to give her air through mouth-to-mouth
>>291427288It's a human genome made by AI, basically AI generated humanslop
>>291429376>humanslopKek, that's insaneOur future is looking more grim by the day.
>>291429539AI is stealing the jobs from human mothers
>>291426530It might have been the translation but I remember QB saying something blatantly false knowingly once.
>>291427124In ancient art, men were usually depicted with tanned or darker skin comapared to women who were depicted as with light if not white colors.
Isn't it funny how Kyouko being receptive or accepting is a red flag for someone in both Rebellion and Kaiten?
>>291426530>>291427786>Skill issue, ask next time instead of assuming - Kyubey
>>291429731so white men aren't men?
>>291425860Fuck happened to the other thread?
>>291426297The two threads are still on the archiveYou could voice it and post it in here
>>291429914I assume the Steins;Gate schizo mass reported it or something
>>291427460>she’s just tanned because she lives on earth which has become super hot for some reasonWhen i was child i also used to say to myself i'm just tanned because here is too hot and i liked take sun so much.
>>291428660Literally not the same look either.
>>291428675Why are you talking like yuri can ever be implicit? It never is. Either something is yuri or it’s het. Unless it’s yaoi
>>291430151It's almost identical. Why would a girl look at other girl in that way? I thought it could be only be admiration but if Sorana does it then it could be more than mere admiration.
So is Sorana going to fuck not Homura, the ugly green one or not Madoka?
>>291429731>>291429848My point was that homosexuals and transexuals are brown
>>291430212>Why would a girl look at other girl in that way?Obviously because she was saving herIt’s not admiration either, it’s a normal look when committing a sacrifice.It literally isn’t the even remotely the same look either, imagine being autistic enough to be unable to differentiate between facial expressions even in cartoon characters lmao
>>291430229>going to fuckShe's going to BE fucked. So all of them.
>>291430229The Homura/Kyouko one is straight. >>291426791So she’s out of the runningSlop girl seems the most likely
>>291430293>Obviously because she was saving herYou can save someone without looking a girl like it was a precious Jewell like they do.>It’s not admiration either, it’s a normal look when committing a sacrifice.You can commit sacrifice for someone else without looking at someone like it was something so special.Hope you don't save a man, because you will feel the right to look at their faces very close and in a weird way.
>>291430320>Straight>Holding Sorana like >>291428675It's a yuri harem VN anyway. Sorana will make her gay if she already isn't
>>291430320>The Homura/Kyouko one is straight.But only until becoming wet for protag.
>>291430320>They are going to pull a one sided romance by Sorana onto Kyohomu>This will inevitably end with one of them dying before they can get togetherI see the vision
This would explain why those fags are spamming the yuri thread.
>Seduces nuns>Seduces Anons>Seduces SayakaHow does she do it?
>>291426936Your retarded egotistical, perpetual victim shit is the antithesis of progression. Kill yourself.
>>291430841>can't seduce Madoka no matter how hard she tries I think she only finds success going after desperate people.
>>291430953Such is the life of a HomuMaybe one day Madoka will look her way...
cutema
>>291431604Our HERO
>>291428675The main series was never going to be yuri to begin with.
>>291425860I like this canon development
>>291431707So does Homura
>>291428037Yeah that's what happens when a sequel is held by the balls for so long. Doesn't help the (second) gacha meant to keep interest only just this year started introducing original content.
>>291429731>ancient artToday's art too. Have you noticed that 95% of the faceless guys in hentai are brown?
>>291429914It had "edition" in the OP.
>>291428037I don't want to say you are right but fucking hell this thread is dead
>>291428037the only material out is mexico and a camrip
>>291428037I think it will madoka threads stabilize and become slower like it was around second semester 2023.>>291433556And people who liked madoka a lot i suppose, they already saw the spoilers or watched the camrip. I still expect a very small increase in activity from those people who still are avoiding spoilers, but no more.
>>291433652We will probably see a bump in activity when we get more interviews, and when the US release date is announced
Still thoughIt's surprising how dead it has already become
Began coming to these threads often since first trailer of 2023 until today.At least i did it until walpurgis movie released, it was my goal. Mission complete. Repeated delays of the movie made me think maybe i would not see the movie soon. lol.>>291433756I don't have my hopes up. But let's see what happens...
I just hope movie 5 is announced soon
>>291433897The way movie ended almost guarante the movie 5.We need specific year and season.But, even if shaft announce movie 5 with a specific year and season. We know shaft can't be trusted with dates.
>>291434048Just hearing them say 'we are working on movie 5/season 2' would be enough for me at this point. I can come back to focusing on Madoka as much after we get a trailer for it or something
Finally, i'm free.
And with that, Madokanon returned to the law of cycles
>>291430397You’re larping the story bro, she was holding her because that’s how her power works to prevent her getting detected by familiars. Sorana took it the same way you did and the black girl didn’t like that
>Movie has production issues in the long run>Movie is about Homura's Mitakihara having production issues in the long runPoetic.
>>291434157I'm glad you accomplished your goal in the end Madokanon. Take care no matter what you do from now on.
I hope Wasu is in the next movie
>nip megucas >viking megucas >egypt megucas >mermaid megucas >space megucas >medieval megucas>tibet megucas>roman megucasWhat is next?
>>291434556Thanks but don't kill me so fast, i didn't intend a farewell.Estoy aqui, anon.
>>291430841Too bad she couldn't seduce the Dokes.
>>291434800Next movie, maybe
>>291434264I wish a happy good bye to the Amigo. The wraiths were kept in check thanks to him.
>>291430841She only did one of those things, coincidentally the only one she’s interested in considering she doesn’t believe in same sex romance
>>291434984Hey it was not farewell. jajaja. >The wraiths were kept in check thanks to him.I did what i could until Kaiten. It's been more than a month of release of the movie and "him" has not come back. Hope your friend is alive at least.
>>291428037Rebellion was a masterwork and should have been the conclusion of the series, all things considered. I enjoyed my time watching this new movie, but it was ultimately just filler. The underlying conflict of the series is untouched and a bunch of new characters appear and establish some subplot conflict that gets resolved within the span of the movie and then send Homura off to do what she had already been planning to do. Please... please just resolve the story and let it end. We don't need thirty years of Madoka spinoffs. I try not to be a cynic, but I can see where that road leads. I don't want to watch something dear to me decay.
Today I'm gonna finally masturbate to Selma. Any *useful* image I could use, anon?
Sinful dyke nun pussy
>>291435531>dykewhere
>>291435479She doesn't have enough lewds
IT’S SELEMA NOT SELMA DIPSHITS E L E M A
>>291435257I heard his labyrinth was on fire. Don't know if the familiars got to him.
>>291435377I really just hope the next movie is the ending Let Madoka have her character focus Let Homura succeed or move on And let this series end before Urobuchi becomes a geriatric
>>291435257>>291435707Wait Kevin's house was on fire?
>>291435257He did but was more tame, and quickly left. I think this movie finally made him realize he was never the target audience. In that way he is more self aware than a good chunk of yurifags, which is scary to think about
>>291435774Oh wait you were talking about Kevin lol
>>291435707>I heard his labyrinth was on firewtf? elaborate.>>291435774I was talking about kevin. Are you talking about him?
>>291435774All these years and he didn't even throw a tantrum about pic relHow disappointing
>>291435711>>291435377I really wonder wtf happened in those 13 years of waiting, With the evangelion remakes I get it because anno is anno, but what is with the production to allow it to take it this long especially when it's not even the conclusion
tuturu
>>291433838no one gives a shit about your blog, schizo
>>291435873>Urobuchi writes the first draft>Shinbo tells him to make Madoka the protagonist >Urobuchi doesn't give a shit and leaves to play with Taiwanese puppets >Everyone sticks their thumb up their asses trying to rewrite Urobuchi's scriptThis part took half a decade btw>Eventually they reuse Urobuchi's old script but Doroinu and some others rework the second half>Then they let Fictionjunction write the last line of the film (sans Kyubey's post credit scene)And that is the history of Kaiten's script.
>>291435764>>291435831I completely misunderstood it. Still, I heard the labyrinth the Amie lives by is a bit too hot. Kevin-kun is seemingly a lost cause.
>>291436192If it's about him then he's been here pretty consistentlyPlus his country is used to it
>>291436291>used to itNo wonder he likes Kyouko spoiler]Mamis tits aside[/spoiler]. Ophelia is a big candle.
>>291436192>Kevin-kun is seemingly a lost cause.Is sad to hear that. But Never lose hope
>>291436429Oh dammit.>>291436433Fine. Maybe he's waiting fir the
I blame the familiars....
Will we have another movie by the 20th anniversary
>>291435683Nah.
>>291435972Damn, so that's why it felt so confused. It looks like they never managed to make Madoka into the MC either. Honestly, I have no issue with that. Homura works really well as a main, her dogged, selfish struggle is relatable. Dispensing with all the character worship and waifu biases, Homura is a very solid character. It would be hard to complain about experiencing a story from her perspective, she's compelling.
>>291435972How can all of the people involved be this fucking shit at writing?
>>291436953I love Homura but I hope she isn't the protagonist of the next movie/season 2. I want it to be Madoka focused, while Homura can serve the deuteragonist role (like how Madoka did in Rebellion but with a bit more focus). Let Homura chill for a bit while Madoka can be the important one for once, the purpose Homura should serve in the next movie should be pushing Madoka's character arc forward instead of going through another one herself. Especially now with Madoka (most likely) being the LoC again and with Homura (probably) being in a good spot mentally (assuming she didn't get mind raped by Madoka at the end)
>>291436953>>291437118The fans progressively brainwashed themselves into total Homu love as the years stretched on after Rebellion and I worry that's what pushed them to make her the protagonist so much and write that weird apologetic ending.
>>291437118That could be nice. I would have also been fine with a story wherein Madoka and Homura are these mostly unseen forces locked in a struggle that some new set of characters fail to comprehend the magnitude of. We know that Madoka and Homura are like gods now because the story has shown us the reality rewriting, but we've had so little payoff outside of that. It would be gratifying to have some characters boggle at the immensity of their power even just ONCE... reality manipulation on a universal level has been treated with the significance of seeing an ant on the sidewalk.
>>291437186I love Homura and even I thought that everyone suddenly taking her side to give her a pep talk about pursuing her goals was a bit silly. Wasn't the entire point of the previous movie that Homura resolved to pursue her goal no matter what and that that pursuit and the suffering it brings were now all dear things to her? Isn't suddenly losing heart because of a little drama just a reversal of her development? The new movie is a bit fraught.
>>291425860Sayaka being Homura's sex slave.
>>291437368Homura's STRONGEST soldier
>>291426055Steins;Gate was intensely mediocre and I still don't get why the schizo worships it so much.
>>291437380Homura treats her more like a dog in the movie.
>>291437394Madoka isn't even the first anime that fanbase has attacked so I think they just get jealous of better anime than theirs
>>291437352>even I thought that everyone suddenly taking her side to give her a pep talk about pursuing her goals was a bit sillyIt feels like a consolation prize. Homura doesn't get the one she wants living a normal human life, but she does get her friends declaring that she did nothing wrong and that they must take Madoka back from the LoC.If you are going to have Homura fail at keeping her silver garden together, but you don't want the ending to be bad, then having everyone side with her works well enough I guess. With Wasu and Sayaka I have no problem with it at least, if anyone needed to say she did nothing wrong to her as Madoka leaves her, it would be those two
So much of the way Madoka is culturally perceived rests on it being a one cour show that it's wild to imagine a world where we actually got a season 2 in 2015 or so. Can you imagine if Selma had been a thing for a decade now?
>>291437246>I would have also been fine with a story wherein Madoka and Homura are these mostly unseen forces locked in a struggle that some new set of characters fail to comprehend the magnitude ofThat would be interesting as well but I really hope we get some focus on Madoka first.>>291437368>>291437380She's a real Homura patriot
>>291437441I remember when Steins;Gate vs Hunter x Hunter was a thing.Hunter x Hunter was the better anime in that one.
>>291437433And?
>>291437477>Can you imagine if Selma had been a thing for a decade now?We would have so much more art of herAnd probably a season 3, and a different fourth movie, and Madoka would've probably ended by now with a (hopefully) satisfying conclusion
>>291437494Obviously.
>>291437477Selema.Not Selma.
>>291437477I can't quite articulate it, but Selema, Choka and, to a somewhat lesser extent, Wasu all feel a bit out of place in the cast to me. They just don't feel like they belong. Am I insane? There's just something that I can't describe that separates them from the original cast.
>>291437494If it wasn't before it definitely is now after S;G 0. This shit still pisses me off today.
>>291437433dogs can be soldiers too
>>291437394I just think Madoka is the better 2011 anime. It's sad that there's still flamewars happening over this in 2026 though.
>>291437574They have more complicated designs and less straightforward backstories compared to the original cast. They are also characters written to address a narrative question posed by Rebellion, not the themes of the original show, unlike the quintet.
I might not have loved everything about the new movie, but one thing I really adored about it was Homura being represented by the salamander so often. That was really cool. Love my amphibian wife.
>>291437653Homura is a cute lizard-bird-devil girl
>>291437394He has manchild humor like Okabe or is a manchild himself.I'm being unironic too. You can only really enjoy Steins;Gate if you enjoy Okabe. There isn't anything else special about the story that hasn't already been done better elsewhere.
>>291437715I know that this has probably already been explored, but I wonder what the animal form represents exactly. Is it her true form now? The shape of her spirit? A representation of her powers? I know that salamanders/lizards have some metaphorical significance, but I'm not well versed on it.
>>291437715>lizard-birdIs Homura a dinosaur
This is Selma.This >>291437503 is Selema.
>>291437118>(assuming she didn't get mind raped by Madoka at the end)I don't think Madoka would do this, but it would be really funny if a reversal happened where Homura were separated from her devil powers for a time. It would be completely pointless narratively outside of being amusing, so I hope that this is not where things go.
>>291437828Salamanders were believed to be born from fire, Homura means flame. So rather than true form, I'd say her Devil form it's her most ideal form, confident (edgy), and powerful, born from the flames of the many trials by fire she endured time and time again as Magical Girl.
>>291436971>>291435972>Urobuchi doesn't give a shit and leaves to play with Taiwanese puppetsSo does that mean Urobuchi is completely done with madoka and someone else took the reins of this trainwreck?
>>291437725Maybe people finally realized that by S;G 0 because most I've talked to say that it's shit.
>>291437536Selma. Katakana is a linguistic abomination.
>>291438233>So does that mean Urobuchi is completely done with madokaDepends but probably. I can see him not returning but Shinbo like's the dialogue he writes a lot so I could see him coming back if he's payed well for it and Shinbo wants him to.>and someone else took the reins of this trainwreck?A lot of it was already Shinbo or Doroinu, even with the first version of the script. Together they came up with most ideas for this film outside of Marguerite being Wasu. Urobuchi said his job as the screenwriter for this one felt like putting a bunch of shit from Doroinu together instead of coming up with much of anything himself. The idea for having three new girls came from Shinbo apparently too for example.
For me, it's Sayaka
>>291438649The new movie having Homura+Sayaka in it is actually so based.
>>291438879She's an angel!
Avoided any discussion up to now, so sorry if I'm out of the loop.What's the general sentiment about the series continuing?It feels like to film left a few hooks here and there, but I'm afraid of having to wait several years for another entry>Selema Terez didn't return to the cycle like Shi Choka and Wasu>Sayaka is absent from the ending scenes>phone ringingAnything else?
>>291435552Cute feet to nibble on>>291439119I was really, really hoping it would end with Kaiten and it'd be spinoffs from there on out but corporate greed says otherwise.
>>291439119>Sayaka is absent from the ending scenesWhat scenes do you mean?>Selema Terez didn't return to the cycle like Shi Choka and WasuConsidering their Majokko's nature, I see zero reason why they couldn't just walk back through Nazukasokotsune again, as the ghosts they are. Also, we are DBZ now, so it won't really matter if a girl is alive or dead.
>>291439119I think it was predicted Kaiten wouldn't be the end when the trailer said it was a new beginning so people who followed it were mentally prepared for this to not be the end.I'm kind of two minds about it. I get that continuing forever increases the chances of the series deteriorating or more bad entries being made, but it also lets the series do interesting things that are different that just finishing off plot threads.Kaiten is an interesting movie, and I think being interesting is both an important and positive quality to have, so give people something different that is not necessarily asked for but still cool in its own way.
>>291439119I really hope the next movie is the ending. Have it focus on Madoka. have it explore how she feels about everything that has happened, and have Madoka and Homura have a real fight.I want Madoka to truly understand how Homura feels about her, and how she herself has moulded Homura into being the person she is.The movie is doing well enough in Japan that a sequel is more than justifiable, so if they can get a script soon we might see another movie for the 20th anniversary.
>>291439235>What scenes do you mean?The very end.Even Nagisa is there, despite being a magical girl from the law of cycles, but we don't get to see Sayaka.
So lets assuming a NA release date is revealed on the 10th. When do you think it will actually release? Mid nov? I cant imagine they would release it in December because of capeshit.
>>291439520I don't even know, Japs are crazy about these things. It could be next year. Then again I remember Rebellion releasing in December too back then.
>>291437574The quintet were all, generally speaking, good girls with down-to-earth problems that got dragged into a mess way in over their heads. Even at the brink when they lost their way, they still retained a shred of their good intentions. The newcomers are just blatantly selfish, Wasu gets a pass somewhat because she lost her memories. >>291437634Disagree on that point; Selma is obviously a dark mirror of Madoka's own desires; Choka rehashes Kyoko's backstory, and Wasu (as Marguerite) was proto-Madokami whose wish failed. They don't follow on to any threads from Rebellion which is why there's a massive sense of disconnect between the two.
>>291439520>>291439563Didn't cheeto man passed a law to protect jewllywood from le ebil international movies?
>>291439702Choka's backstory doesn't matter, what matters is what she represents in the movie, which is wanting Madoka back as LoC. That is a Rebellion point because the show was never about arguing over if Madoka was wrong or not in the first place. Selma as a "dark mirror" is again part of the "did Madoka do things right?" Rebellion argument because of the implication that Madoka's desire isn't singular and also possibly not correct because of a foil. So is Wasu, because she is again meant to be a proto-Madokami to further dissect Madoka's wish when the original show never implied anyone but Madoka was able to make such a grand wish in the first place.
>>291439119In the next movie sayakek gets tired of being a pawn and returns to rape everyone especially Kyosuke and Hitomi
>>291439915I am looking forward to Sayak's Revenge.
>>291437574>I can't describe that separates them from the original cast.The new ones are crazy, too much for most of the holy quintet. Madoka is the only one that can match them on crazyness but she was not a magical girl.
>How do I look?>Miki Sayaka>What the hell are you doing?>Don't mess with me>I'm on my way right now>Don't move a muscle>Damn you replied fast lol>I'll be waiting for you
>>291439702>Wasu gets a pass somewhat because she lost her memories.It's make me laugh a bit that maybe, Wasu could be the personality of the good girl modest nun, Marguerite, when she gets very drunk.
>>291440285Damn, is it THAT easy to seduce Homu?
>>291440285Sayaka in Madoka's outfit is really cuteI don't blame Homura. I'd do the same
>>291440362>chick that checks your teeth when she gets drunkHow would you react?
>>291440386NTA but why does she have a teeth fetish
>>291440380
>>291440403No idea but I'm glad she does
>>291440410Would
>>291440285Cosplay sex is more about how the other person is willing to do this for you than actually looking like the other person for me personally, since it's never actually that similar. Anyway, Sayaka erotic.
>>291440403>>291440421Imagine she has a crush on you and looks at your gums and then just rubs her tongue all over them ha ha
>>291440371Just be nice to her and look vaguely Madoka shaped and yes
>>291440443>You will never be Wasu's hatsukoi This world is evil
I love her
>>291440285>And then they fucked.
>>291440462Is this Madoka shaped to Homura?
>>291440732It's close enough
>>291435619She's very gyute
>>291440732uuuuuuuuuuuuuogh
>>291440732Perfectly shaped to be a little spoon
>>291439890It matters because her initial premise of wanting the Law of Cycles to return is ultimately superseded by her desire to be punished for her perceived wrongdoings. Selma's desire to be useful isn't examining the correctness of Madoka's wish, it's examining a desire Madoka expressed very early on in the series. And if anything Wasu affirms consistently that Madoka's wish was right (even if she ultimately agrees that Homura should try to save her regardless). Rebellion may have introduced the question, but the subject matter is the original series. The most pertinent parts addressing Rebellion is Homura's hijacking of the contract system (which is brushed aside), and Homura's justification (it's not right but someone's gotta do it, refer to Junko) which is mostly addressed by the original cast though as mentioned Wasu is in accord.
>>291425860Love you meguca
>>291440732Sayaka butt...
Do we have an English name for LoC-chan?How do the Japs call her?
>>291441989Japan keeps calling her Enkan
Just for the sake of if people still are doubtful or not. Selma's ring in the manga is in fact written QUITTERIE. Although hyper small.Have a good day, ainons.
>>291442080I don't think anyone was doubting it
>>291442028Also called Kamigun-chan.Divine army-chan(?).
Now. I mean. Does anyone want to give a shot into separating the difference between Wasu's Witch Girl 2nd Form and Selma's Witch Silhouette?
Peaceful hours in the meguca thread
It's been half a week since we got a camrip. How do people feel about the ending?
>>291442508>wanted a happy ending or a closure, didn't even need both>got noneI'm a bit bitter, not gonna lie.
Wait so the spine sword never showed up? Also Akuma Homura was disappointing weak how did she get her ass beat by a few "magical girls"?
>>291442603They are not Magical Girls. They are Witch Girls (Majokkos), and as such, they're not bound to the same rules than Magical Girls in the world. As an example that Shinbo gave: "Witch Girl can fly if given a broom, but Magical Girl cannot. Any Magical Girl's flying scenes you've seen are just them jumping.">Wait so the spine sword never showed up? That's a phone sir.
>>291442508I liked the movie and exited for the possibility of more meguca in the future
>>291442508I don't think anyone really wants to talk about it.>>291442656Sex
>>291442777Same
>>291442777Underrated Doujin
>>291442508>How do people feel about the ending?It's alright, although I feel slighty annoyed that it's perceptible the edits and how Furukawa took over not only the visuals but the text too. I would love at least a nice insert song playing during that for maximum energy instead of what we got.I want Shoujo A going to the desert, piloting an Iron Nest, next movie and Selma coming back.
This was the most villainous shit in the whole movie.>Nagisa offers sympathy>Selema extends her hand>Nagisa stabs her while smilingNagisa did not know what were the implications of destroying the gem of a witch girl, what the hell, this looks so dark.
>>291426103Yeah it's the best https://archiveofourown.org/chapters/131577001
>>291442656>They are not Magical Girls. They are Witch Girls (Majokkos), and as such, they're not bound to the same rules than Magical Girls in the world.This doesn't really explain anything. Homura isn't a magical girl either and is presumably bound by even fewer rules. The new girls showing up and menacing Homura felt stupid.
>>291442865no, this was a very reasonable and measured response to a person who just went on a rant about reinstituting a policy of infinite torment and death until the end of time.
>>291442919>and is presumably bound by even fewer rulesShe is not. You're assuming it. If you look close enough, you're going to notice Homura never flies, although having wings. And that's just an example. This idiot lost her bow and shield (again). Later got into a realm whose her Devil powers doesn't work, and when coming back, is immediately fucked by Selma's hard patching Gretchen with the first act of Witchcraft in this whole franchise ever (lol).In summary, you was just fooled by the Devil's fraud.
>>291442850We need more of Girl A
>>291427411This
>>291443003>have broken time stopping powers>still can never ever deal with Mami>gets reality warping powers>proceeds to get her ass beaten every single timeIt keeps happening.
>>291443003You're not doing a particularly bang up job of convincing me that all of this isn't stupid, because everything you just said sounds very stupid. I'm sorry, but Homura just shouldn't be losing direct fights to random nobodies under any circumstances. No amount of apologia can save the writers from their idiocy.
>>291443083He can't convince you because Steinstards never listen to any arguments.
>>291443003>>291443060>wins in the end anywaymetatextual power trumps all in-universe feats
>>291443139No, got her ass beaten one last time to Enkan and lost Madoka.
>>291443158take a wild guess as to the eventual ending of the series. do you foresee homura ultimately failing with all of this narrative pressure behind her? be honest. this is no shitpost. there's no shame in admitting that u are wrong
>>291443083Not really interested into breaking your delusions either, but what do you think she could've done against them? What scenario ran in your mind?>>291442080Ah, and I forgot. Wasu is ANONYMOUS. Which makes her Anon!
Went to watch it with my bros, one of them fell asleep wwwwww.Great movie, I really liked Walp/Marge and given today is my bday this was one of the best presents I got from a series I love. Thank you K and J.
>>291443180I could see her paying a very heavy price, yes.You're wishing upon a star.
>>291443228>What scenario ran in your mind?Them not existing. I was pretty much bored out of my mind by every scene they took part in. This was all a distraction from the underlying themes of the story and we are left off with everyone telling Homura to go do what she was doing anyway. I cannot be the only one that felt these girls were a huge waste of time.
>>291443264So you just not thought about your own point and is just venting your dissatisfaction about your own expectations by changing the topic, I see.It's alright.
>>291443264Yeah, I felt their presence was unnecessary too, but at the same time the dynamic with Walp worked well, Chouka's theme was retarded and she was like a bottom of the barrel Kyouko, but her witch form was neat. Felt like filler though, I do agree, but it's a movie about a lot of things.
>>291443311What do you want from me? I said that I believe that Homura should be stronger than them. Why is it suddenly my responsibility to concoct a detailed scenario where she defeats them while taking into account your suppositions about the various power levels of the characters involved? The narrative as it is currently presented falls apart if they can't beat her in direct conflict, but you could easily concoct a scenario where they work in more clandestine ways against her. Such is the way to fight against a superior foe. This is kind of getting away from the point, though. I hope you're satisfied, you weirdo.
Steins;Gate fags have got to be some of the most dishonest shitposters of all time.
>>291443348I understand your point, but at least to me, it seemed obvious they were crazy strong, specially Walp, they were inexperienced, though, that also showed. And Homura will always be a bad foe, she's just bad in general now, after the reset.
>>291443003I mean the feats that Madoka pulled off were really crazy(granted a lot of that was wish fueled), so i kinda expected that her contrapart Akuma Homura would at least be stronger in a straight fight.
This guy is just throwing a fit because those new girls thrashed his pet character.
thoughts on the 3 new mahou shoujotachi?
>>291443348>Why is it suddenly my responsibility to concoct a detailed scenarioIt's not, friend. I only asked because I was curious about your line of reasoning since you asked us that in the first place.Chill a bit.>Yeah, I felt their presence was unnecessary tooIt's funny because the whole movie project started and was planned entirely for them. But the final being changed to something very far from Urobuchi's draft made the story get wonky at the point that the later addition of this final that would work better as an individual sequel degraded the whole movie's pacing structure.
>>291443408I think they're pretty interesting. Way more than S;G's supporting cast were.
>>291443408I like Chouka, Dekomori Selema is shit, and Walp is goddess
>>291443422I am quite chill, this is just how I speak. I don't mean you any ill will, but I am not going to be changing how I speak in order to make a better impression on anyone.
>>291443422What was Urobuchi's original plan for the movie's ending anyway? Do we know what it was yet or no?
>>291443441Did you like Rebellion?
>>291443437>Choukaat the theater, her name was subbed to something like xi deng zhia or some chinese shit like that for some reason
>>291443456I enjoyed it.
>>291443408They're cool but I wish Choka did something after her fight. Otherwise I don't get why they didn't have Selma kill her like the original plan
>>291443427I agree but surpassing mayuri and daru is a low bar.
>>291443458Cause she's Chinese... I think, nips do this shit, but they clearly said Shi Chouka or something like that.
>>291443472Those are the most important characters in the story besides the two mains.
>>291443458Kanji, how do they work?
>>291443441Oh ok. I just assumed it.>>291443445From my memory since I'm on bed>Chouka would die far earlier>Madoka would be protected as a princess until the very end (the LoC conflict with Homura wasn't in the plot at all)>Madoka would have almost 0 screen time and wouldn't even become a Mahou Shoujo (reason why Shinbo asked changes)That's about it.
>>291443467Yeah, Selema is annoying but I would say her fight is way more interesting, though I enjoyed they kind of killed her more than the fight per se. Chouka just didn't do shit, her backstory was laughable, but her design is top notch.
>>291443503>Chouka would die far earlierKyouko would actually go murderhobo on her?
>>291443487Mayuri has literally no personality besides acting like a moeblob. Same with Daru and his hacker shit.
Even if Madoka is the protagonist of the next one, I don't think we will see her in her Magical Girl outfit from this movie again. It will probably get some sort of redesign, again
>>291443445Not entirely known, but based on the pamphlet, the whole confrontation with the Law of Cycles was not present at all, Homura just won. I believe Selma turning out to be a Kyubeyfag was one of the revisons, too.
>>291443408Maybe I'm getting too old for this stuff, but Selema's voice was really annoying to me (maybe that was the intent?). Otherwise they were alright. Wasu was just recolor Homu and Chouka was just cut rate Chinese Kyouko - but yeah, they were alright. Can't say no to more cute girls.
Is it me or Nagisa was really off?
>>291443487And that's why SG's cast is so bad overall. Selma is easily better than every character in that show besides maybe Okabe, if you can stand him.
>>291443510Also, my friends laughed at me and told me why do I watch little girls eating desert just for fun in a super serious anime movie, and I laughed wholeheartedly just fpr Chouka to spoil the scene, fuck her.
>>291443547In what way?
>>291443530That would be a waste, don't you think?
>>291443510I enjoyed Choka, I just wish that she was given more to do. The scenes at the start of the movie with her, Wasu and Selma together were great but there's barely any of them. Really Choka and Wasu should've interacted more
>>291443547Nagisa didn't even have a personality until this movie.
>>291443549>Okabe, if you can stand himHe's just a cheap Megumin who doesn't even have looks going for him honestly. He belongs in a less serious show.
>>291443563Now she has a more fleshed out personality than everyone in S;G, lol
Care to remind me why we are talking about Shits gate? Is it 2011 again or what the fuck is going on here?
>>291443375>Homura will always be a bad foeI'm afraid that I don't understand what you mean by this, it's somewhat ambiguous. I'm assuming that you mean she is bad AT BEING a foe, but this could also mean that she is a foe against whom fighting is bad. Maybe you don't mean either of those things? Can you clarify that?
chatGPT, explain to me the movie I just watched
>>291443578Half of the Steins characters don't even do anything useful anyways, the show suffers from cast bloat badly. Why is Ruka even there?
>>291443540>Homura just wonThe good timeline>>291443559>That would be a waste, don't you think?Yeah but I don't like her redesign so I'd be fine with it getting changed again honestly. I don't think it will be totally changed, but I can see it being streamlined so it's easier to animate, assuming Madoka's actually the main character in the next one
>>291443393In a sense Homura is still kinda strong. But she seemed to be having so much fun if you look closely that it's cute in a way. >>291443523I think that since we are DBZ now, the logical outcome would be Selma killing her. The timing even matches, and it would go well with the "you're not useful to me anymore".>>291443547That's the idea. Plus Sayaka. I really enjoyed them both being in a position of watching/reacting this movie with us. There's a very meta lesson they're teaching there but people are just interested in the overall result of the story instead of the enjoyment of the individual things happening on screen.
>>291443586It's a schizo, just ignore. Report if you want, but nothing will be done.
>>291443586Autistic shitposter probably the same guy that makes the thread using it to stir up shit. Such autists always pick some random stuff to shitpost while the giggle to themselves mid diaper play.
>>291443586Steins;Gate fans are constantly shitposting the thread with dishonest AI posts.
>>291443602>The good timelineWe're still probably in that timeline, it has just been extended in order to fit more movies.
Ironic seeing SG fags complain about characters given "nothing to do" when that's like most of the characters in their anime
>>291443588Both are correct, I mean, she's just like Rocky in Rocky III, she lost all her bloodlust or drive she used to have in order to protect Madoka, this was so clear to me in the end of Rebellion, when she almost had a mental breakdown when she holds Madoka's shoulders.
is it me or did the movie need more SUFFERING?
>>291443586There's (probably) a Steins;Gate fag who shits up these threads (long story filled with autistic drama and retarded shitflinging over the last year+ that I don't care enough to get into) and now there's a guy who thinks everyone who didn't like Kaiten is him for some reason. So I guess we now have to deal with some guys jihad against Steins;Gate for the foreseeable future
>>291443635Yeah and Daru, Mayuri, Faris, etc. are all just plot devices to move the plot forward or hack shit and unlock the next dmail time travel step. Nothing in Madoka ever got that artificial.
>>291443627Hopefully you are right
>>291443643Everyone was too nice to Homu. She needs to suffer in order to be at peak potential, after all. She has the masochism perk.
>>291443659>She needs to suffer in order to be at peak potentialMadoka...
>>291443586There's a steins;gate schizo who basically spams botposts complaining about Madoka Magica, the new movie, Rebellion, the series, etc. Kind of a shitty fanboy type.
>>291443643yep, that too. I think they should've killed or almost killed or got to broke Sayaka again, maybe Kyouko as colateral damage. It all seemed too tame. Walpurgis suffered a lot too, but she's a new character, it's not the same and she did accept that fate.
>>291443652That's because S;G has no stakes and went for the Disney ending.
>>291443652I don't hate the show but I do think about half of those characters were unnecessary and could've been removed easily without losing anything.
>>291443669the problem with killing holy quintet members is that it probably wouldn't stick since the remaining members have two reality benders pulling for them and thus it would have little impact aside from the shock value of seeing them die again
>>291443692Yeah, it kind of died down (heh) with the original series, since Rebellion, the story is totally driven by new lore to me, the fights are amazing but I don't like Madoka for that anymore, it's just a nice plus. Characters, dialogue and interactions are the most important aspect to me, seeing SayaHomu moments was a bit of surprise to me, but it was a nice addition.
Madoka and Re:Zero are better time loop anime than Steins;Gate
>>291443603>but people are just interested in the overall result of the story instead of the enjoyment of the individual things happening on screenThere is something to be said for enjoying the journey, but when the journey is a circle that takes you back to where you started it can feel a bit frustrating. Yes, we did learn somethings, and we did set up Kyubey being a threat again (for reasons beyond my will to understand), but are we much closer to the ultimate and final resolution that all of this deserves? Not by much. I don't hate the movie, I simply shrug at it. It is what it is. I enjoyed plenty of it, I just have my complaints and feel like voicing them. Ultimately, it's just my opinion and thus should mean very little to you.
>>291443726They less shitty fans too who don't go into other anime's threads to shitpost unprovoked
>>291443736Yeah, this is a downgrade if you compare it to Rebellion, the only thing I liked more is the art direction, it's just too good to be true in theaters, but I didn't see Rebellion in theaters, just on my TV and it kind of looked like shit.
>>291443669>>291443692You make me sick.Killing Sayaka after the conflict was already resolved soured the whole ending of the anime to me. It didn't even have a narrative purpose, it only made the bitter-sweet ending more miserable.The idea that they will pull something similar again still haunts me.
>>291443766You are right, I just don't like her, but in this movie, she finally won my heart, she's just too hard working, to me she's just a different character and that is for the best, the theme with Kyousuke was so fucking stupid that I skip it in the anime, it's just shit at this point.
At least Kaiten was great for the Homusaya and Nagisafags
Care to take a guess how many of these posts in the last 90 minutes are made by the Steins;Gate schizo? Because it's a lot.
>>291443766Sayaka staying dead in the original show was a kino moment, mongrel.
>>291437352Its so out of left field too. I'm personally of the opinion that almost nothing could move her from the end of rebellion to letting Madoka go back to LoC, but they just didn't give her an arc in this movie. Same with Sayaka, what made her change her mind from I'll never forgive you to go get your girl? And then like even if they wanted LoC to ultimately prevail, did you have to have such an anticlimax of it just instantly low dif one shotting Homura's new form right after you revealed it?
>>291443787I'll always be a sucker for plotlines about someone going through love and then heartbreak. I agree that Sayaka was better in this movie compared to the original anime tho. She was fantastic in this one
>>291443801Not me, I just finally got to post about the movie given I got to see it a couple hours ago, I literally avoided /a/ for weeks.
>>291443787>to me she's just a different character and that is for the bestShe wasn't being stabbed in the back by every named character and narrative during this movie.Although she was still being backstabbed.
>>291443801Steins gate fans are garbage
>>291443801It could very well be every single post complaining about something in the movie or in the series/rebellion. Not sure if it's 100% of the posts but it could be close to that.
>>291443816Sayaka was cool in the movie but I still liked her in the anime more. Her suffering was lovingly written and animated, with a kind resolution too without being super sappy shit.
>>291443819Nah, she was, it just wasn't that horrible. Also, it's really good to see her trying again, I dislike that Bebeshit cheered her up, but she had to do something, fucking shit character.
>>291443787>the theme with Kyosuke... I skip it in the animeDo you just not watch 80% of the show then?
>>291443858In my first watch I liked it, but how dumb her love triangle is now that I know more about this loveshit it's just sappy shit to me, even for teenagers.>>291443871The end of it, the sappy shit is bad, but the end of it is just bullshit to me at this point, Sayaka is just too stupid in the series.
>>291443846Assuming every criticism is some ghost is genuinely pathetic. Even the notoriously cucked japs have negative things to say about the movie, retard.
>>291443871I mean it's a dishonest and/or bot post written by a steins gate fan that hates madoka, so...
>>291443895Steins;Gate fans are such dishonest shitters it's crazy. Literally close to 100% of those posts are just you with AI assistance.
>>291439243I don't care if they want to tell a spin off story more power to them. But don't sell me a followup to rebellion that has almost nothing to do with the characters and themes and plot of rebellion. Outside of LoC, none of the quintet needed to be in the story about wasu. And even LoC could have been replaced with a macguffin if needed.
>>291443889She's in middle school bro. Middle schoolers are stupid. And she's meant to be a character with high standards for herself, which I know is alien to some people here, but that's why she snaps. She gives up and pseudo-tortures herself for envious or selfish feelings anybody would have.
>>291443908They're jealous that Steins;Gate is the real shock value slop with poorly written characters
>>291443908With all your repetitive accusations and the fact that you seem to assume you're some heroic fighter against thin air, I'm going to guess you're mentally ill. It's like Don Quixote but lamer.
guess the release date for the 5th movie
>>291443933Nah, don't misunderstand me, in my first watch, it was an amazing plotpoint in the series, heck, she went too soon if you ask me, but still, as time passed I hated the character so much that I end up skipping her conclusion, it's just too stupid (not bad), this Sayaka is miles better, her mummy appearance is amazing. Even the way she speaks now, how she acts, how honest she is...
>>291442595fucking same
Steins;Gate fans are such projecting fags. Why are you even here making over a hundred posts in these threads every day while pretending it's not you doing it?
>>291426625If it was this hard to write Kaiten, you could say it will be even harder for them to write the sequel.
>>291443980I like the fact that we are getting a new movie, probably (see you in 10 years lol, I literally have kids now, what the fuck) but the ending made me a bit uncomfortable with QB, it's just bullshit at this point and the next movie might be packed with suffering to the max.
>>2914439712030 originally but it gets delayed to 2031
>>291443972The mummy outfit is really nice. Almost makes Kaiten worth it.
>>291444004damn, all of us will be dead by then...
>>291443997You don't have kids S;G fag. You don't even have a girlfriend, just an obsession with Steins;Gate for some reason, which is a 5/10 anime at best.
Okabe is a trash MC and I like Madoka way more
>>291444015I sure as hell won't be, gramps.
>>291444011It's the most cheap, simple, classic and sometimes even overused change in attire and it's perfect for her, what gives>>291444017No, it's the truth, I literally have kids now, I love Meguca, I watched it with /a/ when I was finishing HS.
>>291444030Based opinion
Kaiten is good because it doesn't waste your time like S;G does for several hours
>>291444011I feel like it lost its narrative purpose somewhere during the development though.Like, what was even the purpose of the bandages?She was putting and removing them without anything visible to hide.
>>291444004Do you think they've started writing it?
>>291444055Urobuchi is good at writing concise stories, he specializes in it. S;G is almost the opposite where is has so much useless cruft that wastes time, it was originally a VN after all.
>>291444031but what if you turn into a witch before then?
>>291444059Yeah, that was sorta disappointing. From what I hear around nip twitter there's a theory that the overt bandage wrapping might symbolize Homura having to work harder to memory manipulate her? Or something like that.
>>291444069Not all VNs are bloated crap like that
>>291444069>it was originally a VN after all.Do you think no one that has written a VN can tell a good story?
>>291444072I ain't a girl, I'll turn into a kamen rider instead.
>>291443375I'd accept a sucker punch loss to walmart the first time they fight. Or like her freaking out that its walmart because she's got to have trauma about walmart. Walmart is established to be only inferior to basically Madoka last time we saw her. Homura is narratively and conceptually Madoka's counterpart. They're both (kind of literally) in their own dimension of power compared to anythign else. So yeah its fucking weird and stupid that some random schmucks gave her trouble at all. Would you not be weirded out if Madokami started losing to Gertrud or something?
>>291444067Production has probably started in some capacity. Even if it's just Shinbo and Urobuchi talking about making another one.I really don't think we will have to wait too long for movie 5, so even if production hasn't started yet I wouldn't be surprised if it does very soon
>>291444103VNs can definitely be good but I do prefer stories with tighter pacing overall. S;G just has a lot of garbage in it that did not need to be there imo.
>>291444101Yeah I know, Uro himself wrote some visual novels and they didn't fall into all of the pitfalls S;G has with its story.
>>291444117Need the financial report of Kaiten first.I don't think this venture is very safe/lucrative, though it's probably enough since it performed similar to Rebellion.
>>291444108To be honest, given how fucking powerful LoC were in this movie, I'm surprised Homucifer "controlled" Madokami to begin with, for the lack of a better word, yet in the end of Rebellion it is clear that Homu is just inferior to Madoka.
Steins;Gate fags and AI in general have been a disaster for this website
>>291444145I'm surprised there were even people at my theater, my friends never even heard of Madoka, though we live in the sticks. Still, like 20 people went, mostly some fags and a tranny, or a girl with manface, and it's fucking monday, I went today because I had a day off.
>>291443765rebellion is gorgeous wtf are you talking about? I've only seen camrip for kaiten, so I'll hold off on full judgement but there's a LOT of violently cg things in kaiten. I actually really adore the trippy mixed media animation in the series, but it was just not hitting right with how smooth and cg a lot of elements looked in this movie. But hey maybe it all comes together when its not filmed like shit
Is the Walpurgis no Kaiten on nyaa legit or just a trolling/virus?
>>291444231its probably just the camrip
I'm going to believe that the jihad against Steins;Gate is working somehow since the world is funnier that way
>>291444229I don't know man, I wish I wasn't wasted when they screened Rebellion back in my town because I missed it, watching it on my TV is good, I rewatched it yesterday for the movie today and it was great, but this was miles better art direction wise, Rebellion yesterday looked like shit in comparison, sound is amazing on Walps, literally wanted to rip my ears when they were doing the thing with the cups lol
>>291444231Anon, read-only files can't be virus. That's not how computer virus works.Also, yes, it's the camrip anons are posting in this thread.
>>291444251It is working lol, Steins;Gate schizo has been spamming this thread like crazy since 2 hours agoHe does this every single day by the way
>>291444145Pretty sure any anime movie big enough for an international release it is a slam dunk currently, the cost to produce is probably close to a full cour of anime with an instant payout upon release and a even bigger return when the BDs are out, as long as they keep it simple and don't become hollywood levels of retarded with the accounting it should be fine.
>>291444268Their fanbase is a real lemon, seriously
It's just that it looks really great on theaters given it's animation, I don't know, when I watch a live action movie in here that it's not the premium screen, it looks like blurry shit. This movie didn't look like that, at all. Sound too, it was hysterical how deep Chouka's screams landed on my ears.
>>291444289More like a turd.
>>291444262File can be viruses when they're set to exploit vulnerabilities in their players.
So anons were talking about how the script of this movie was somewhat modified after revisions.Is there any confirmation that this movie is the same concept movie from 2015? Or was that a different project?
At least a bench is closer than 2 chairs
who makes the best madoka doujins, a-10 or dekosuke?
>>291444268Can't believe I'm about to say that One Piece fans are better than them.
>>291444320It's been 11 years since then, obviously a different movie from what they had envisioned back then, no question.
>>291444320>Is there any confirmation that this movie is the same concept movie from 2015? It is. The first draft (which they came back to revise later) was done sometime in 2014/early 2015. I'm sure some stuff from the concept movie that didn't make it into Kaiten got reused in Magireco, like with Mami being important
>>291444340>like with Mami being importantYou didn't have to phrase it like that.
I watched the rebellion re-screen on teathers and at the end they did a short PV of kaiten and the difference in art was noticeable, kaiten was a lot more sharp and bleak, rebellion was more colorful and warm.
>>291443997Like lowkey I don't even trust that a hypothetical next movie is going to give us a conclusion after this movie. Yeah yeah yeah my own expectations and all that, but I legitimately feel lied to with this movie.Just like I said when we got the title for this movie announced. I literally could nto care less about walpurisnacht at this point in the story. I literally could not care less about the incubators at this even further point in the story. I think the witch world is fucking retarded so I'm even less enthused that its obviously going to play a central roll in the next movie.
>>291444153Well that's the thing, its /not/ clear at the end of rebellion. Obviously when she got a powerup(?) at the end of kaiten and still got flicked across the universe we can see she's vastly inferior to LoC. But frankly that doesn't make a ton of sense now does it? Thematically and with what she was able to do in rebellion.
I'm starting to think S;G actually mindbroke this guy.>>291443602What about the rest? What didn't you like about it?
should I like this movie if Japan didn't like it?
>>291444558I think Japan kind of liked it, at least from what I'm picking up about discussion there
lel, only now I noticed.For a grand total of 2 seconds, Sayaka's whip sword that existed as a concept since the original anime became canon.
>>291444588Damn that's so based
>>291444558Only yuritroons didn’t like it
>>291444588Wow I didn’t even know about that.Sayaka always seemed like she had the least interesting fighting style to me but this does add depth to it
yuri orgy with ALL mahou shoujo
>>291444662There were two different ideas for her sword actually.One of them was a trigger that would launch the blade, I think it was implemented in the first movie (the anime remake) as well as in Magia Record.The second one was the whip sword.In my headcanon the sword with triggers existed in a world where Sayaka was inspired by Mami to become a magical girl, while in a different timeline she met Kyouko before making her wish and got the whip sword from her inspiration instead.
>>291444778
>>291434707Did you forget we have two Chinks, one or Two Americans?
>>291425860Damn they're making 5 movies? What more could they have to say?
Watching Chouka freaking out while eating cake was the hottest shit ever, something is wrong with me man.
>>291444588She learned that from Kyoko.
>>291444694Sorana's wet dream.
>>291444778The trigger blade is more unique. I do hope she keeps both types of swords tho.
>>291444778>>291444947>Kyouko and Mami are veteran magical girls therefore the others take after their fighting stylesKino
>>291444694>no nakadashiWhat's the point?
I love how Sayaka and Kyoko like, didnt interact at all this movie. It was even Nagisa who pep talked her lol
>Sayaka’s crush turns into a woman>Sayaka instantly witches outDamn bro, doesn’t even try to fix xer or anything. Granted if Kyosuke had become biologically female that’s understandable. I’d be ok with fixing a female troon who didn’t actually go through with surgery and shit like that but not one who did, let alone one who somehow actually became a man. Sayaka must feel the same way, as I’m assuming most heterosexual people do
>>291444231The 2.8GiB rip is legit. Perfectly watchable. Some rustling in the audio a few times. Not gonna rewatch with how shit the movie was.
>saw a short saying that the bow that homura uses after the anime is actually MADOKA'S bow? is that really so? you really think HOMURA would let random girls use HER bow as if it was any other random bow or rag to do her bidding?
>>291439890>which is wanting Madoka back as LoCShe wants to kill Madoka and hates the LoC as a whole actually.
>>291442508I feel nothing because the ending refuses to be anything. It's so open ended it could be anything.
my fan art for late happy birthday to Madoka~!
>>291446832Nice, anon!
>>291438178I see, that makes sense.
>Explode the whole city
What utility does Selma think she has looking at me like this?
>>291447501Rape face
Does someone still have the list of recommended philosophical readings or is that all part of a past that no longer exists for this thread?I think it wasFarbenlehreNitschebut i dont have it all saved anymoreive partially read some stuff and am looking to broaden my horizon a little more
>>291447603Steins;GateSteins;Gate 0Steins;Gate Re;Boot
>>291447780All mid
>>291443083>>291443060>>291443003FRAUDmura LOST
>>291443467>Otherwise I don't get why they didn't have Selma kill her like the original planGotta Disneyfy the franchise as much as possible.
>that cool new Homura design where she's actually an overseer divine wish-granting entity?>yeah we had it for one scene and then never again lol>you'll still buy merch of it though right?>you'll buy Selma's second outfit that shows up for five minutes too right?>btw we're redesigning all the cast again for the next movie, make sure you collect them all
>>291448283The gacha influence is palpable and it sickens me.
>>291448203Steins;Gate never had any stakes to begin with fag.
>>291448203Fitting how the Steins;Gate card can only think about Disney when he complains about anything. What were the consequences to Okabe's reckless time travel in S;G again? Oh right, nothing.
>>291448312Ironically this is less creatively bankrupt than just rebooting your aging series over and over again.
>>291448312Magia Record was supposed to contain the gachaslop. It’s like sewage leaked into the clean water supply
>>291448390Yeah the bad writing or sewage as one would say, was there from the start.
>>291448436Thanks for the input, schizo. But, if it's all the same to you, I'd rather not have ANY creative bankruptcy. I know you hate steins gate, but you don't have to use that hatred to attempt to indirectly defend one of the most soulless and morally degenerate business models ever invented. They can be two separate issues.
>>291448312There's none. It was all decided before the gacha became a thing. >>291448283>you'll buy Selma's second outfit that shows up for five minutes too right?Yeah but what the fuck is Selma's Witch Silhouette form? They released zero materials about that and Wasu's Majokko's 2nd form. Although the later is easy to understand.
>>291448499>I'd rather not have ANY creative bankruptcyI'm sure Steins;Gate fans lament the poor state of their franchise's quality, as they should.
>>291444588MOTHERFUCKERS HOW MUCH FUCKING SHIT WAS CUT FROM THIS MOVIE?!Fuck it. I don't care. Give me a 4 hours director's cut. Give me a one cour remake. If you're going full greed at this point at least fix this mess and I'll pay for it twice.
>>291448529Steins;Gaye has been shit for AT LEAST the last 10 years and the fans clearly never recovered.
>>291448508>It was all decided before the gacha became a thing.I have some major doubts about there being absolutely no influence. The entire idea of a giant disconnected library dimension full of discrete information about various characters is one of the most philosophically gacha ideas I have ever heard of.
>>291448577Even the original S;G was paced like shit and was a plodding slog that went on way longer than it should have. The fans then like to project this flaw on other anime by complaining everything else is too short regardless of how much better paced it is.
>>291448609>>291448508>>291448456>>291448312Damn. I love it. It is a new era. A gacha era with gacha front and centre.
>>291448640Steins;Gate fans use One Piece rules, longer = better. By that logic any shounenshit is miles better than their anime.
>>291448508Oh wait that's right Wasu also got two different forms LMAO. Recolors of each other too. It's so over.
>>291448508>Selma's Witch Silhouette formWhich one's that?
>>291448577>Steins;Gaye has been shit for AT LEAST the last 10 yearsIt's more than 10 years.
>>291444588I kept thinking her sword looked different this movie. They redid the guard entirely and gave the blade more of a curve.
>>291443645Given that there is no meaningful distinction between a schizo opposed to a thread and a schizo who supports a thread, this guy and the original schizo could very well be (and, for all intents and purposes, might as well be) the same person. It would be a perfectly reasonable cover to start threadshitting in opposition to your original position, it's not like the underlying effect changes. Thread still gets shitted. It's a sad way to spend time.
>>291448609Madoka itself was conceptualized with their witches as being very Pokemon-like beings. The Witch archive was something that existed from start, and them having names and descriptions like a Pokedex is already enough of an elaboration. It feeling like a gacha is just a consequence of gachas itself being very Pokemon-like in nature. Just check in retrospect and you're gonna notice it was always like this. It can't be helped. >>291448727The image related with my post. Production settings refer Wasu and Selma's new forms both differently. But no details are given for them yet.>Wasu is called "Majokko's 2nd Form". >Selma is called "Witch Silhouette".>Choka became a Witch directly instead. So just Paolla.I feel like a decent analogy is that if you think as Holy Quintet as Super Sentai, and Nagisa as a 6th Sentai, Majokkos are fucking Kamen Riders, because their mechanics doesn't align with each other lol.
>>291448850Not saying this post's argument is right or wrong, but it loses a lot of weight when you realize it's just the Steins;Gate schizo talking to himself to try and preach some dumb point he wants to make.
Sorry but I love Madoka, Steins;Gate won't ever surpass it for me.
>>291448869>Just check in retrospect and you're gonna notice it was always like this.I'm not so sure. It feels different. Maybe I can't articulate it in a way that you don't find immenently objectionable, but I am intuiting a philosophical shift and am quite confident in my intuition.
>>291449099I think it's a matter of perspective of what's in first plane and second plane. Since Witches weren't the main focus of the story until now, it wasn't very perceptible writing wise. However, we're blessed with a shitton of interviews about Inu Curry, Shinbo and Urobuchi talking about the timeline of events. But specifically, Kikan S 2026/10, which has Inu Curry talking about the notes and how Nazukasokotsune came to be, after he noticed that in the Witch Archives he made for the TV Series hasn't a name for Walpurgisnatch at all. The whole concept of Nazukasokotsune, Majokkos vs Mahou Shoujos and the trio were already well defined before Concept Movie, between 2014 and 2015.
>>291449099A shift towards gacha? Sounds great. Our time.
>>291449264Well then I suppose I just don't care for the direction of the series. Even if it is simply convergent evolution, I find this current state to be highly objectionable and thus I will continuously object to it.
>>291449396Your objections noted and your faggy tears. Delicious. Cry more slut.
Sad that the current Steins;Gate fanbase on this board is essentially one guy that just goes around shitting in other anime's threads every day.
>>291449264What does that have to do with giving every character they could alternate looks that last ten minutes and have no real plot relevance?
>>291449416Their anime is too shitty to be worth talking about on its own merits.
The only good part of Steins;Gate was the trap. Madoka did a dozen more interesting things in half the time.
>>291425860What was the point of this new movie? They just rehashed a lot of the same plot points from the last movie while somehow making it even more convoluted and added some new characters no one cares about.
What? I don't understand why you seem to be having an emotional event. I am not crying, nor am I your opponent. Can we not be amicable to one another?
>>291449599>What was the point of this new movie?To make money.
>>291449396It's alright. I'm frankly more annoyed by them not going with the original concept and the whole production being burned to hell because of that. It's all consequence of their own arrogance that they believed they could fit in "this movie should have Madoka", "it should have what that specific part of fanbase wants!". So they added and added, and lost track of the single idea of exploring the Witch concept a bit more. Now people are putting blame into the main plot of the movie in an attempt to deny that the last 10 minutes of the movie are literally filler and won't have any relevance for the movie 5 since it's COMMEDIA (as in shown when Homura took Madoka's shoot) and has no relevance.Redundancy aside. I just think that Kaname Madoka is getting in the way of the staff exploring new ideas.>>291449440I have no idea about Selma's. It feels something to be elaborated further later in the future or in the Guidebook that's gonna come out next year. But Wasu is definitely to "hide" that she's Walpurgis for the first half of movie, and to remember Marg's original design more, since it's just her's but torn. She immediately changed it once Homura called her Walpurgis, after all.
>>291449599I don't even know if you've watched the movie or not S;G fag but it's way better than what your franchise ever put out.
>>291449638Why do they keep milking Steins;Gate with cheap remakes? The Madoka movie is way better than that trash Mages is creating.
>>291449638trvth nuke >>291449700Nigga i haven't even watched steins gate i just feel like this move is a step down from the last one
>>291449697>I just think that Kaname Madoka is getting in the way of the staff exploring new ideas.That's fair enough, this wouldn't have been nearly as much of a disaster if the plot were more centered around the new set of characters. I still would like to see Homura and Madoka's storyline be properly resolved, but maybe they don't want to do that until the series is set to be permanently retired.
>>291449766>Nigga i haven't even watched steins gateWhy do you always lie?This movie has more creativity in it than 20 years of the Steins;Gate series' slop. Imagine not getting bored of that anime in 2011 let alone shitposting threads every day on its behalf decades later. Steins Gate doesn't even deserve it.
>>291449831>This movie has more creativity in it than 20 years of the Steins;Gate series' slopTruth nuke
Some fags will really take a dollar store Back to the Future and make it their whole personality
>>291449901Because they have no personality to begin with. They don't even love Steins;Gate otherwise they would talk about it instead of shitposting here while spamming words like milking or cashgrab which is exactly what has been happening to the Steins;Gate series for years.
>>291449901Yeah, this guy crying about Steins;Gate is fucking obsessed
To the guy who said he hasn't watched Steins;Gate, first, you're lying. Second, if anyone here actually hasn't watched it, don't waste your time because it sucks.
It doesn't matter how long it takes, I'm going to outlast your retarded concern trolling campaign. Madoka threads will be about Madoka again. None of this daunts me, suffering is my friend now. I will remain and you will eventually grow bored and all of this will have been for nothing.
>>291449831Steins Gate literally owns you unc. I dont care about the shitty forum wars you had back in 2011 i just came to talk about the new madoka movie cuz i felt like i was missing something. PLEASE TAKE YOUR MEDS
>>291450001More like you came to shitpost about it and spam AI slop posts. Stop pretending you're young, anyone who is a S;G diehard at this point is a decrepit loser.
>>291449998Based. Madoka as a series will always be kino no matter what the shitposters say.
>>291450044Please hashem strike this goyim down
S;G fag really pretending he's not in danger of being too old to find a girlfriend within the next few years
Which way, western man?
>>291450154I love both
>>291449697>picWatchmen picture innit?
The fact that witches had all their individual names, there is a writting system to them and it is intrinsic the second they are born is a clue that something in the universe is cataloguing them automatically.
>>291450154Why would I have to choose? All three are my wives.
>>291449697At that point, why is this project a sequel at all? It's not like they're a stranger to spinoffs. Call it Puella Magi Marguerite Magica and commit to it. It certainly would have calibrated expectations more precisely.
>>291450218It could mean that, yes, but it was also never established just how diegetic the name plates were. Usually when some text appears on screen in a piece of visual media, it's for the viewer's benefit - not some clue as to the workings of the universe being depicted. So does this mean that when a witch appears, it is DIEGETIC that their name appears in big font for everyone to see? Because that's kinda funny.
>Shits;Gate fannboy in the thread againIt's all so tiresome
>>291425860>>291425269 thank you anonthe defeat chuka one is actually kyoko.she has a couple more lines in the latest threadhttps://desuarchive.org/a/search/username/meduka%20kaiten/page/6/very soultho video will take a bit anyways. glad you seemed to like meduka kaiten
>>291450289It's a sequel in the sense it address to things left from TV Series and is about Homura facing new foes that hurt her status quo while exploring the world a bit more.Urobuchi always felt in piece with having Madoka more as a setting than as a character. But Shinbo disagreed very hard. And now we are here, with Madoka literally bring nothing more than an annoyance.
>>291450828>bring nothing moreBeing nothing more*Plus they were very direct and sincere about what this movie was about since the first announcement. But not the people, and even themselves, took it as a face of value since they threw a filler final in an attempt to artificically add Madoka more.
>>291450828>>291450868Sorry that you're mad about the declining quality of the Steins;Gate series, but you don't need to take it out on us.
>>291450900Don't target me on your bullshit.Besides, there's a while since I watched it but wasn't it exactly the same situation with that Steins Gate movie nobody cares about?
>>291450868>Plus they were very direct and sincere about what this movie was aboutThe first poster was of Madoka. The concept movie was mainly Madoka.
>>291450963Steins;Gate is vastly vastly worse on all the points you've brought up.
>>291450828If we don't need Madoka, we certainly don't need Homura either, nor any other members of the quintet. If the premise of the movie is "girls who cannot be saved by the Law of Cycles", the most logical placement is actually pre-Rebellion. Ironically Wasu does end up saved by the Law of Cycles anyways, and considering how much they echo episode 12, her story could have simply been an expanded retelling of Walpurgisnacht's defeat. Her being Homura's lookalike was not only a massive red herring but nonsensical and irrelevant. She had no meaningful connection to Homura at all other than obligatory antagonism that vanishes in an instant.
