>>291428196
>no bibliography
>no filmography
back to the library kiddo

Imagine needing a bibliography for an anime essay. Did you even open the link, or is reading more than 2 lines too hard for you

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>>291428609
nta

Bro really pulled out a philosophy quote just to admit he didn't click the link. The entire draft is a full breakdown of NGE's core mechanics and lore secrets. All the evidence is right there if you bother to open your eyes. If you actually like Eva, read it or share it with people who actually care. If not, go spam your pseud quotes somewhere else.

>>291428196
What's the point? Analysis of fictional science and metaphysics is meaningless, the creators just made this stuff up with no objective mechanisms for binding consistency. Unless you can work parts of this theory into some kind of commentary on the themes, it's just worthless wankery.

>>291428609
Anon you need to back up your arguments with evidence and in essays that its the bibliography, maybe you're a faggot or a retard, but in this case its after an assertion you add a small ¹²³ where you show where its said or shown in the media.

1.Ep.22, min 15:23.
2.NGE manga ch. 5 p23
3.Girlfriend of Steel (game)

OP can't stop sucking cocks¹

1.This thread

Detailed episode citations make sense for obscure details, but my entire theory builds on macro-level, iconic scenes that any actual fan knows by heart, like Unit-01 shedding its armor against Zeruel in Ep 19, Shinji dissolving in Ep 20, Shinji seeing Rei inside Unit-00 in Ep 14, or Gaghiel’s aquatic assault in Ep 8. You don't need a timestamp down to the second to verify events that literally defined the entire show. If you actually need a footnote to remember Unit-01 eating an Angel, go rewatch the episodes. That said, I’ll do a pass over the draft later and throw in specific references for the minor details if it helps people who can't navigate the show without a map. Appreciate the input anyway.

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>>291429382
Anon, I'm a school teacher. Part of my job is to teach students how to make and support claims. If a student submitted a paper without a bibliography of some sort, I would give them a failing grade. A claim without evidence is no better than saying "because I said so!" It is worthless. It doesn't matter if we all know the show by heart. You have to prove to the reader that you can support your claim and your reasoning. And this can only be done with specific examples. When I run into this sort of problem with my students, they usually say something similar to what you're saying, that they don't need to cite specific examples because I'm the teacher and I already know what they're talking about. And that's true! But that's only half the point of citations. The other half is that I, the reader, need to know that YOU know what you're talking about. The advice I usually give to them is to write as if your hypothetical reader knows nothing about the subject. Sometimes I recommend they show the essay to their parents, and if they understand it, that means it's a well-supported argument. Anons are disregarding your essay because YOU have disregarded one of the cornerstones of argumentation. There is a reason all good arguments are structured this way. You haven't achieved anything by skipping a crucial step. You're trying to build a house without a foundation. Nobody is reading your essay for the same reason that nobody wants to walk into a house if there's a chance the floor will cave in beneath them. Even shitty youtube video essays will play clips from the show they're talking about. If you go back and do things properly, I promise you will have a stronger essay overall. Your argument will arise naturally out of your analysis of the evidence. One last thing, evidence is also how you test your argument. If you find the evidence conflicts with your argument, that means your argument was wrong and needs to be adjusted. I hope this helps. I really do.

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>>291428196
Very pompous and offputting tone in the OP, but the ideas themselves seem interesting. (I myself long ago gave up having any sort of serious discussion of Eva on /a/.)
From a skim, the most novel idea seems to be of the Angels being sequential because Adam's soul is sequentially running through them. This is thematically repulsive to me since I've always attached great weight to the Ender's Game motif whereby in killing each individual Angel Shinji is being manipulated into murdering a unique spiritual equivalent of all life on Earth (since each Angel is somehow equivalent to the Lilin as a whole). However, it does seem to make sense and explains some puzzling things, and I can't think of an easy refutation to it (beyond the fact that it's never mentioned in the show itself). Certainly I do see the deceased Angels as communicating to the successors, this is just a much more extreme version of that.
I might read more carefully with closer responses later.

>>291429957
Do any of your students have big tits?

>>291430010
Kensuke won

>>291428196
Evangelion is analyzed in Japan with directors like Tomino and Akio Jissoji in mind because he is clearly inspired by them. If you don't include these inspirations in your analysis then you are analyzing from only a uneducated western mindset.

>a theory only from the show itself!
>but here's all this transmigration and Adam's soul stuff that isn't in the show!

>>291430548
Kensuke schizo is here. You can now samefag, larp as a Misatofag (FYI retard. Last thread you got ip wiped so no point playing retarded), type "kek" and talk about Kensuke dick you fucking homo (mention Asuka name also counts you fucking homo)

sorry but I like eva for the characters and what they represent rather than from the worldbuilding, not to say that your theory is bad or anything, it's just not an aspect of the series that I want to spend a lot of time thinking about
if the doc had been about analysing the characters and giving your opinion on what the message of the series is, I'd give it a read and probably discuss a bit with you
enjoy trying to repel niggers instead of talking about your arguments for the rest of the thread just like yesterday though

>>291430548
>Normal eva thread
>Kensuke cuck shows up to shit it up
Aren't banned for last thread?

>>291430864
Does Kensuke schizo count as one of those Niggers?

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>>291428196
It's been 31 years, and after 31 years the only correct and moral standpoint is to acknowledge Rei as best girl. If you do not understand why, then you need to reflect on those 31 years more. The rest has been poisoned and contradicted at the very source.

If we were to pretend only NGE and EoE existed, sure.

In that regard I looked through and I do regard your point as Rei's soul being Lilith undivided as correct. I in fact congratulate you on this. Disturbingly many cling to EGF-tier theory on this.

>>291428609
"the topic is not that important anyways haha but read my book about this nothingburger pretty please?!"

Narcissism used to be more pleasant.

>>291430915
probably
he is kind of right though, kensuke did win at the end

>>291430917
>>291430939
>1 Min apart
Proving yet again to be a Reifag

>>291430915
No, he's Peruvian and wishes he was white so he doesn't leave in third world shit whole. Also >>291430939
>>291430917 aren't hiding the Reifag shit

>>291430960
(you)

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>>291430993
Are the Kensuke faggot and you lost.
The best thing is this image of hou getting IP wiped while Kensuke spamming and Reishinfag/Reifag posting.

>>291431053
Checks out only thing deleted is Kensuke trash and Reipost.

shinji x asuka sucks
shinji x rei works
if kensuke x asuka sucks
asuka x (you) might be the answer

>>291429026
Basically this. If it doesn't reflect back on reallife, humanity, culture, the poetic message for the viewer, what even is the point of this exercise other going by the tone of his submission blatantly states that it's really just about self-aggrandizement.

Yet, all your shitpost Kensuke schizo involves Shinji getting cucked while you talk about Kensuke dick.

>>291429957
you do speak like a teacher, since you're "failing" anon because he didn't adhere to the Holy Form even though it's entirely unnecessary for the intended audience
what fucking bibliography do you need?
everything is simply "from EVA anime"
but you're dismissing the entire thing because anon didn't dot the i's, without addressing the subject matter in the slightest
if you're similarly discouraging and anal towards your students, then I pity them for having a dumb robot for a teacher

>>291428196
I for one enjoy a good schizo paper and I want to encourage more people to do it

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>>291428196
>Creating another thread for his 22 pages of low effort sloppa
>Still not even one sentence about why Mana is best girl

Disregard everything I've written, instead discuss why I keep sucking thousands of miles of penis every single day.

>this thread
Biggest meltdown over Kensuke since Asuka's pussy

>>291433759
kek uh oh Asuka's cunt melty

>>291433778
>>291433759
>>291432751
You've been samefagging this whole time Kensuke jannies clean this shit up the brown pedo needs a break from 4chan and BBC porn

>this thread
Biggest meltdown over Kensuke since Asuka's pussy

>>291434073
kek uh oh Asuka's cunt melty

>>291432751
Okay why do you suck that much dick Kensuke schizo?

>>291428196
What is the point of bringing literally any argument to someone's opinion if it's known for sure that neither of us would be able to pull out a statement based on the subject if both of us would interpret it in a different way?
Like the most obvious example based on what Kensuke-fag and AsuShin shippers already fill the thread with - why does one think that there can be any truthful meaning of shipping Asuka with anybody if it was literaly shown that she got btfo BEFORE the Instrumentality even started? From that point her appearance at shores of the dazzling sea is not more that a goof, possibly Anno's goof who was unable to figure out how to put it simple for the audience that everyone except the MC died and that it was a secondary message.

>>291434180
>Like the most obvious example based on what Kensuke-fag
That you Kensuke schizo. Jesus you keep spamming the fucking thread and Asushin has even been brought up

Death to Asukafags and Kensukeschizo.

>>291434180
You know nobody brought up Asushin right? It's 100% Kensuke spam ann we know you're the one doing it

>>291434205
Post the (You)s, fag.

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>>291434217
>>291434180
Where at the Kensuke schizo both sides spam which again he has been IP wiped doing already

>>291433759
>>291433778
Based

>>291429048
Source: I experienced it in instrumentality

>>291434250
>phone-post
Indian?

>>291434217
Death to every pilot shipper without exception desu.

>>291434295
>>291434282
>>291434217
Brown pedo melty

Disregard everything I've written, instead discuss why I keep sucking thousands of miles of penis every single day and love to Jerk off to Kensuke yaoi. I'm brown btw

Kensuke and Asuka's sitting on a tree
RIMJOB

Kensuke sitting on a tree on a black dick
POSTING THIS >>291435739

Crazy how we have like 10 annies but the brown Kensuke pedo can just freely spam

>cuck porn
You are a waste of life

Bump because I actually want to reply to OP but need a bit of time.

You only bump it Kensuke tard so you can keep spamming cuck porn you fucking faggot. You didn't even make a response to OP you larping fucking retard

>>291428196
We're just here to argue over Asuka vs Rei

Hey guys.
After taking a break for some real-world work, I came back to see this thread getting quite a bit of traction. Sadly, most of the back-and-forth here isn't even about the actual theory, but just a couple of individuals slinging insults. That said, I really appreciate those of you who actually engaged with the original post and the theory itself. You guys are always welcome here. If you're interested in reading the full Unified Theory, just scroll up to the top post for the link and feel free to drop your constructive feedback or counter-arguments below. I’m pretty busy with work, so I won't be able to reply instantly, but I’ll make sure to read through everything and respond to every valid point when I have some free time.

Disregard what I just wrote. I need that discussion about all the cock I suck

Asuka goes crazy for the Peruvian Heat.

>>291428196
Going to give my thoughts and critiques as I read through. I'm going to try to present all other reasonable possibilities I can think of, so bear with me.
>## PART I — THE OPERATING MECHANISM OF THE EVAS: THE MOTHER'S SOUL AND THE NEURAL IMPRINT
>### 1. Only Unit-01 and Unit-02 carry a mother's soul, and this was an accident, not a design
Agreed that Yui and Kyouko ensouled their Evas "accidentally". Yui's was secretly deliberately ofc; I can't rule out foul play in Kyouko's case to replicate Yui's results but there's no particular reason to think there was.
However, given that the other children in Shinji's class all lack mothers (at least Kensuke, Touji, and Hikari) it seems that this was incorporated into the Eva production process at some point somehow. Presumably the soul is kept in storage by some means until being placed into a potential Eva's core. Though, we only know this actually happened in Eva-03's case.
I also not that you're using the information from the PS2 game in Kyouko's case. I don't object to this, to be clear- at least in this case it seems completely valid.
>### 2. The Psychic/Neural Imprint mechanism for the remaining Evas
No objection.
>### 3. The principle of "Necessary Condition" and "Optimal Condition"
Sensible.

>>291428196
>>291439394
>### 4. Decoding Unit-00's rampage incidents
I like the account of the episode 14 one.
The way I see the episode 5 one, the Rei within the Eva represents Rei's unconscious (whatever this Rei may be, imprint or soul or soul-piece), the things she represses. Rei's unconscious (who remembers her identity) loathes Gendou for trapping her in this mortal body, and hates the mortal body itself (hence, trying to kill Gendou and itself). You'll note that in episode 6, when Rei resyncs without issue, what's changed is that Rei has Gendou's glasses with her- that he saved her gives her faith in him (and she scolds Shinji for not feeling the same).
>### 5. Reconciling this with Ritsuko's statement in Episode 23
I think it'd be rather strange storytelling for a statement by an expert so late in the game to be misleading; I'm not willing to give up that every Eva has a soul in some way so easily.
Not directly pertinent, but there's a pretty interesting detail in that Ritsuko seems to imply that Rei is somehow an Evangelion. My own read on this is that an Angel (all 18, including Lilith and Lilin) are prophesied beings that all are bound by the Fate recorded in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which seems to foretell their deaths. Contrariwise, an Evangelion (literally good-angel-thing), is a being akin to an Angel (the Evas as we think of them analogous to Adam/Lilith, Rei analogous to Kaworu) which is not prophesied and so not bound by Fate. This explains why Rei in particular isn't counted as an Angel despite being exactly same sort of being as Kaworu, and what the purpose of Lilith and Yui creating each new bodies was to begin with- Lilith and Yui (as Lilin) are Angels and bound by Fate, but Rei and Eva-01 are Evangels and free. This also can relate to Kaworu talking about how he needs to die to obtain freedom.

>>291439442
>## PART II — THE CASE OF REI AYANAMI: A SINGLE SOUL, INHERITED
I fully agree that there's continuity of a soul (and character development) between Lilith -> Rei I -> Rei II - Rei III - Lilith again. Some part or image of Rei is obviously in Eva-00, but this need not be more than a fragment of the soul. I would not be surprised if Lilith were capable of creating a soul or soul-piece to put into Eva-00. I already went over my thoughts on the Episode 5 berserk.

>## PART III — THE PHYSICAL BODY, LCL, AND THE NATURE OF THE AT FIELD
All good.

>## PART IV — THE HYPOTHESIS OF ADAM'S SOUL TRANSMIGRATION, THE PERIODICITY OF THE ANGELS, AND THE TRUE ORIGIN OF KAWORU
Now we're at the meat of it.
>### 1. Before 2015, the Angels were merely embryos
Seems good. There certainly seems to be some strategic continuity between the Angels.
In particular I think the Angels are aiming to get the Fruit of Knowledge (just as the Lilin are trying to get the Fruit of Life), either directly from Lilith, or through psychic connections with Lilin. Because the Fruit of Knowledge is none other than self-other consciousness.
1. Leliel - can't tell himself from Shinji, just acts as him in a conversation.
2. Arael - interacts with Asuka as a semi-separate entity, but can only interact through the strongest (traumatic) thoughts.
3. Armisael - gets the closest (perhaps also because Rei can tell what's going on and kind of just accidentally helps her), Rei has to seppuku to stop her from achieving deification.
This explains Seele's worry in episode 17 about the Angels being interested in the human (Lilin) soul, and their and Gendou's occasional ominous comments about the Angels getting smarter.
>### 2. The activation mechanism of the S² Engine Core: why Angel embryos develop so rapidly
Seems good, aside from the bombshell theory that's Adam's soul is being transferred between Angels, which is really novel to me.

>>291439582
>Seems good, aside from the bombshell theory that's Adam's soul is being transferred between Angels, which is really novel to me.
I like that part even simply from narrative perspective
I don't think I read a story like that
I agree with the author it neatly justifies the popular trope of enemies conveniently appearing one by one, rather than en masse

>>291439582
>### 3. Why Kaworu is recorded as born in 2000, and the truth behind it
Possibly a lie, but kind of a pointless detail to waste time on deception with so close to the end.

>### 4. Origin: the Second Impact, the red LCL, and SEELE's exhaustive biomass harvesting
No objection, and this is some really gruesome and beautiful imagery you're invoking here. It's tantalising how the series never actually shows how an Eva is made. Reminds me of some of the ideas I have for my fanfic (immense trees of flesh growing out of Evas bearing Evas as their fruits).

>### 5. Kaji, the disruption of the "artificial Angel" project, and the first Angel to receive the soul
>### 6. The chain of transmigration through 16 Angel bodies, and Kaworu's appearance in Episode 24
Really interesting! The idea of the theft of the embryo setting off the series is very clever, and this is a really good explanation of why the Angels only ever appear one at a time.
Two objections-
1. If the Angels only awakened because Kaji stole the embryo, why was so much effort devoted to preparing to combat them? Did Seele know (because of the DSS) that the Angels would come, but ironically didn't understand that they only would come because of their and Gendou's scheming?
2. If Adam was incarnating into appropriate bodies each time, why didn't he ever incarnate into the Adam Embryo or one of the in-construction Evas?

>>291439777
>### 7. Why Kaworu still serves SEELE, and why he is surprised by Lilith
Episode 24 is a massive can of worms, especially since there were a lot of changes (and I think changes to the meaning of events) between the TV version (which prepares for the TV ending, where Kaworu is just dead and not involved in Third Impact) and the Director's Cut version (which prepares for EoE, where Adam is instead unified with Lilith and very alive (and more powerful than you could possibly imagine)).
I'll just say for now that Kaworu is in my opinion the exact opposite of naive (he has the Fruit of Knowledge, not the Fruit of Life); he's very suspicious of Seele, he just doesn't fully work out what's going on with them and Gendou until he gets to Terminal Dogma and decides to surrender to Lilith.
>### 8. Why the Human Instrumentality Project was never complete
Arcane but interesting.
However, I think it's pretty clear that Instrumentality *does* involve Adam's soul (though I'm not sure you were implying that it doesn't). Not only do we see Kaworu manifesting just as much as Rei and Yui as part of the Divine Gestalt, the first thing Lilith does upon awakening is dunk herself into the lake of LCL containing Kaworu's brain. He definitely comes along for the ride.
>### 9. Reinforcing evidence: the sequential attack pattern of the Angels
>### 10. Evidence from SEELE's dialogue in Episode 23
>### 11. Evidence from the sixth Angel, Gaghiel
Really smart. I can't think of any counterargument to the Transmigrating Adam theory, at least for now.

>>291431927
schoolmarm btfo

>>291439582
>Some part or image of Rei is obviously in Eva-00
Nonsense.

Kaworu is shit by the way.

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>>291440065
Pic related (episode 23', timestamp ~8:20)

>>291439872
>## PART V — THE TRUE NATURE OF THE AT FIELD: TWO STATES, SHINJI'S DISSOLUTION AND RECONSTITUTION IN EPISODE 20, AND KAWORU'S AT FIELD
Really good and insightful stuff.
>## PART VI — THE PRINCIPLE OF ORIGIN COMPATIBILITY: WHY UNIT-01 IS SUPERIOR TO THE REMAINING EVAS
No objections, except that I still don't buy that the other Evas don't have souls.
>## PART VII — THE NATURE OF THE RESTRAINING ARMOR AND THE INTRINSIC ENERGY SOURCE OF THE EVAS
Not really disagreeing, but my take on this has always been that Nerv just doesn't know the full potential of the Evas' bodies the way Yui, who actually has the body, does.
>## PART VIII — THE AT FIELD OF THE EVA SERIES: THE WILL TO LIVE AND THE DUMMY PLUG SYSTEM
>So what do organisms that do not possess a soul by the definition above have? They have a **Will to Live**. Every organism that exists carries a Will to Live within it, even in its simplest form, such as the wish to reproduce, to eat, to hunt. Bacteria, viruses, insects, plants, animals, every species on Earth has it. Because Evangelion always has a spiritual dimension running alongside the physical one, the Will to Live here also carries a spiritual dimension: it is not merely a biological instinct but a form of **lower tier of the soul**, not entirely separate from the soul.
Good to clarify what you mean here. I generally speak of all life as having souls, but different levels (vegetative, motive, and finally rational/human), in the Aristotelian fashion.
>### 3. The Dummy Plug system: simulating the soul of a progenitor
All good.
>The core element of the Will to Live is what an entity will do when it is allowed to exist, as opposed to being merely a dead mass of flesh executing steps in sequence. Although they carry the root code of completing the ritual, the Eva Series can do many other things beyond that root code, and for this reason they are not dead flesh.
Neat point.

>>291428196
>>291440170
Conclusion: this is really well-thought out and insightful and I'm glad I gave it a chance. As I've said, the theory of Adam's transmigrating soul is really left-field for me, but it makes a lot of sense.

As you can see, /a/ is not a very hospitable place to have a serious conversation rather than whatever the fuck is going on with the shipping retards. If you'd want to talk more, feel free to drop an email or discord or some other method of contact.

i will add 10 more pages about Kensuke and his importance to the Marduk project

>>291428196
>>291440330
>serious conversation rather than whatever the fuck is going on with the shipping retard
1) we have serious conversations all teh time

2) it's only the Kensuke schizo, it's been the Kensuke schizo and he's the only one who brings up shipping

3)i have reported this faggot >>291440330 since before he started spamming BBC porn and he's still not banned

>>291430917
Onizuka is sucking those tits, kek.

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>>291440376
>serious conversations among NGEfags
KEK. More like pretentious babbling without any substance.

>>291428196
>### 8. Why the Human Instrumentality Project was never complete

There is an objection: if Adam has no soul, how could it trigger the process of divine merger?
I'm pretty sure in one of the NGE games they used Adam to trigger it

>>291440252
>As you can see, /a/ is not a very hospitable place
This a hug box

>shippers
Kensuke schizo being a faggot doesn't count as a shippers before the retard does the same shit in non-eva threads. He's a fucking schizo

guys i think Tabris is very hot, i am gay?

how come none of you ever watch ultraman or UFO which has very striking elements Anno lifted for NGE?

>>291440568
I have watched UFO, pretty cool.

>>291440376
>he's the only one who brings up shipping
If we ignore all the Asukafags that constantly post provoking posts that summon Kensuke schizo. Yeah, he's the ony one.

>>291441693
To an outsider, posts complaining about this "Kensuke Schizo" seem just as irritating as his own alleged posts.

>>291442073
Also when he hasn't posted in a thread and someone randomly brings him up.

>>291442113
In this very thread I have been randomly accused of being him.
I feel there is a Kensuke Schizo Schizo and possibly a Kensuke Schizo Schizo Schizo or even a Kensuke Schizo Schizo Schizo Schizo.

>>291443502
Same.

>>291428196
More than 3 decades and you retards can't stop fanwanking and making up explanations for shit that was never deliberate.

LMAO the cuck is now just pasting his slop and writing "oh so smart so well written"

>>291443502
>I feel there is a Kensuke Schizo Schizo
Yes, and I think he's the op of this thread which is why he had a melty when people made fun of his shitty spam