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Releases in 12 hours!
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Cool forum signature gif OP.
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>>291520236
tf is this tumblr ass mp4? You can post more than a half second clip here.
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>>291520236
Yooo let's goo!
HYPO!
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>>291520236
Is this the episode where Nacht jobs? Wait, that's every episode!
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>>291520236
Where are the leaks?
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>>291521282
>>291521540
>>291522481
:b
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>>291522532
Please use spoilers for the images!
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>>291522828
Cute
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I'm hyped
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The only thing I'm ACTUALLY possibly dooming about is if they use Julius's voice for Lucius before the reveal kek. I pray the anime staff doesn't do something that dumb
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>>291523965
Who they're gonna use for Lucius then? His VA will be the same as Julius since he looks the same with a different hair color.
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>>291524498
use spoiler tags anon!!
also i don't know but they could definitely use a different voice actor, it's not like there's no precedent for this. although looking at morgen and nacht we might be out of luck.
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>>291520236
Going to watch it at Comic Con instead
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>>291524547
Sorry for the lack of spoiler, anon. I just assume everyone who's watching this already read the manga. I'll be more careful next time.
And, about Lucius's VA, the best bet if they don't want to spoil anime onlies is to distort his voice when he appears in Zenon's flashback, I doubt they're gonna use anyone other than Toshiyuki Morikawa, even more given he voiced Lucius in one Jump Festa trailer for the final arc of the manga.
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>>291525099
Sick!! Have fun and chat with some Cloverbros there! even if you're shy, surpass your limits!!! i wish i could be there with you. maybe even ask out a cloversis :D
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>>291525101
you didn't spoil me anon! I've already read the manga just like you! sorry for miscommunicating that. i was just concerned if there might be anime onlies.
and yeah i was thinking of voice distortion as well!! i did see the jump festa trailer too ofc. well, we'll see how it goes! i
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>>291522481
Lule
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where episode 2, it's time we got some fights
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Mada da.
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>>291527522
It's over anon
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>>291527563
Not giving up is my ninja way.
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It's out
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>>291520236
The OP song isn't as epic as I thought it would be...
How lame.
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>>291528235
The bar has been set extremely high
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>>291520236
Do you see how cute she is? Why would Charlotte reject this?
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>>291520236
Episode out or what?
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>>291528498
Its out
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>Black Rover out of fkn nowhere
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>>291528516
Thanks.
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>>291528591
wtf yeah that didnt fit at all
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>>291528591
Eat your member berries and love them.
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>>291528494
You dont know how much I missed her.
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>>291528789
it did sorta feel like an ex girlfriend drunk texting me to talk about le good times
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>>291528516
>>291528571
Why was Nacht so embarrassed?
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>>291529044
tits too big
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>>291528822
She's so fun
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>>291529067
He's a straight man which is hard to believe after seeing Felis Union
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>>291529159
Nothing wrong with this Union
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>>291529220
Awful jobber. Waste of a good design. Disappointing ass motherfucker.
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>>291529044
Hag
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>>291529044
Yuno's only option left after getting cucked by Charmy
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>>291529236
Take that back. He's a great jobber
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>>291528591
I didn't even mind it didn't fit, just felt nostalgic hearing it again.
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>>291529112
Sorry gotta disagree with that anon
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>>291529044
tits not big enough
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Comic con report. Panel is almost full.
Gakuto's favorite moment from season 2 was Magna's fight.
Dallas is looking forward to Sekke.
Live dub was same scene from season 1.
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How many chapter did they adapt this time? I haven't read the manga but feels like 5 or 6.
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>>291529159
>Nacht
>Straight
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>>291530236
About 4.5
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>>291529919
did they nerf lolopechka?
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>>291530629
Lolo is medium, Undine is huge
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She kept her pants on
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>>291529301
Sex with Bell is probably classified as masturbating
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>>291530706
Shouldn't half her grimoire be red?
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>>291531183
That's what I thought too, but maybe it only happens when she's powered up by Twilight of Valhalla.
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>>291530706
She looked a lot cooler in the mango
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>>291528591
and that's a good thing
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Was it rushed or not? It's been so long since I read this part I can't remember how it all went.
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>>291531535
>no torn thigh highs
really a missed opportunity
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>>291531568
Way too much is happening in that episode
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>>291531568
Basically 1 to 1 with the manga
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>>291530706
>>291531535
RIP Noelle's ass.
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>>291531988
We're all thinking it, you don't have to say it :(
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>>291531568
This episode was actually appropriately paced. The chapters they adapt are short and mostly just action.
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>>291532067
I'd rather this than the One Piece route
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>>291531988
and we had yoruichi ass with no problems..
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Halal Clover
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>>291530706
It's snowing out there.
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>>291529659
Warm milk
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>>291532192
She a Mana Skin expert
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>>291525101
More improtantly, will they even voice Astaroth? And if so, is it gonna be a male or female voice?
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Okay episode. Mereoleona's fight was great, but the ones against the Triad felt pretty weak ngl. I appreciate Megicula now has a female VA and not Magna's VA.
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>>291532102
we lost Rukia's though
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>>291532498
That scene was removed, not censored.
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>>291520236
Great setup episode, i loved the Mereoleona fight, they doing the Ancient Demon entirely in 2D, even if for short sequences, its quite an accomplishment, even Ufotable would've made it CGI.

What i didn't like though was the amateurish direction, i know this outsorcing studio hasn't done a lot of action, but even me who knows nothing about anime production know you shouldn't film camera shots zooming in and out of character faces with such complicated designs as the Zogratis brothers (even more so designs with so many lines as the BC character designer makes them)
Like that awkward Nacht kick against Dante or those chopped Zenon and Morris (oh Morris) shots would've been fixed easily with more creative camera work.

Despite that, it gives me great confidence in their ability to allocate resources now.
The animation or "budget" is not a concern at all for me, if anything is the way the outsorcing studios "FILM" and direct their episodes (of which im sure we'll have at least 3 more)
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>>291532302
Does he talks in the manga? I don’t remember it, even more given he outright never appears properly in the story.
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>>291533024
>gif
very cool shot
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>>291530706
Dunno why, but I always felt that this Spell looks like a Yu-Gi-Oh card
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My biggest nitpick with the episode is that they didn't show Dante making even one Gravity Singularity, people are gonna think Dante was nerfed even before you know who arrives.

He isn't nerfed, he just can't destroy the room because of the ritual (still, robbing him of his singularities will only help that notion settle in)
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>>291533090
>very cool shot
indeed, the whole fight is filled with great shots
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>>291531568
It was fine.
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>>291520236
For an outsourced episode this was surprisingly decent.
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I really like their design
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I CANT WAIT TO WATCH IT
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>>291520236
Wait the first episode already aired?
AHHHHH I'M BEHIND!
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WHAT THE FUCK WE GOT THAT SONG IN THIS EPISODE?!?!?!
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>>291533192
As a plant deck timewaster, I see what you're seeing. She'd fit right in with the many level 6+ plant women
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FUCKINGAURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i love his makezugirai pettiness so muchh
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>>291533836
WIFE
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>>291520236
Only half done but the pacing feels a bit off, uneven. That is a separate concern from the actual pace, which is faster than expected, but maybe the uneven pacing is due to this episode having another studio working on it quite a bit. I don't care since I already read the manga many times but anime online's might not feel the full impact of things at this speed.
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>>291533024
I'm really surprised the large demon look as good as it does
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SEXO
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>>291535003
ENTER
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>>291536683
If she grows any bigger you'd be able to use her as an onahole
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>>291529301
asta's still single
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>>291536864
kek (
Noelle's going to morph into water Mereo after becoming a 30 year old virgin
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>>291531183
>>291531250
huh, checking chapter 277 again and it does *not* show charlotte's grimoire when she uses queen of briars
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another 5 eps adapted, man this is way to fast
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>>291532302
>>291533076
>Does he talks in the manga?
never said a word
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>>291537042
Later on when Megicula appears, we see that her grimoire turned half-red
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>>291537176
>her magic's increasing
that's after using the spell for a while x rill's amp, you can see that her hoop skirt is completely covered in flowers instead of only partially covered
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So good we are back with Bleach TYBW levels of budget and MHA got that cucked ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URwMxNidO-8
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>>291535559
>nly half done but the pacing feels a bit off, uneven. That is a separate concern from the actual pace, which is faster than expected, but maybe the uneven pacing is due to this episode having another studio working on it quite a bit
The outsorcing studio definitely doesn't know how to pace an action episode, i think the problem was the transitions more than the pacing itself, we also don't get the eyecatchers we got in season one so we're just jumping from scenario to scenario without a clear divide.
>>291537080
It's worth it if it means THAT fight (which is only 3 chapters long) will get extended to a full episode.
From that on, Noelle vs Vanica should be episode 6
Noelle and everyone vs Megicula should be episode 7
Yuno vs Zenon part 1 ep 8
Star Yuno vs Zenon ep 9
Black Bulls vs Morris ep 10
Megazord Bull vs Worm Lucifero ep 11
Lucifero vs Everyone ep 12
Asta/Yami/Nacht/Yuno/Noelle (cope) vs Lucifero ep 13, Lucius reveal at the end, possibly extended length to 30 minutes or even 40
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>>291537332
You're not fooling anyone.
At least try to space out you quoting yourself like an hour so it's less embarrassing than usual.
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>>291537340
No way Morris's fight will be that long, in the manga he loses like a chump to the Black Bulls in like a single chapter, if anything it's likely episode 10 will be both Morris and Lucifero's worm form ending with Lucifero's manifestation and then episodes 11-13 will be the entire Lucifero fight ending with Lucius's reveal at the end.
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>>291535207
>Queen of Thorns
My early teens fapfu
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>>291537399
You're forgetting Dorothy and Smoke guy, im sure they'll fight Morris and extend their fight and the arrival of Yami's squad to a full episode.
You're also forgetting Yami might get a flashback of him meeting every member, from Gordon to Charmy.
Even if 30 seconds long for each, thats minimum 5 minutes of runtime


No way the Lucifero fight is longer than 2 episodes, that would drain any studio of resources.
Even Mappa had to condense the Sendai fight to one episode only.
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>>291537138
I misremembered.
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Not the best episode I've seen honestly, but considering it was kind of setup before the stage gets reset I'll forgive it as long the real fight we all want to see is done justice.
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>>291537603
Yeah definitely a step down from the premiere. I'm expecting a lot more from episode 3.
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>>291536222
>I'm really surprised the large demon look as good as it does
And the other one (from the trailer) will move even better.
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i hope ep4 is better paced lol thats one of the main fights this season
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Loved the way they did this
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>>291535003
Namaah is male?
I genuinely didn't notice when I read the manga
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>>291537042 (me)
while double-checking for this, i was reminded that chapter 278 was a color page
bear witness!
>picrel
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>>291537549
I don't think they're gonna flesh out the fight with Morris that much, even less extending the fight of Dorothy and Lotus given the lighning speed pace of the season and how they handled Vanica's minions this episode. The Yami flashback may be made, but not enough to cover a whole episode, I'm still believing for an episode of Morris + worm Lucifero until there's evidence of the contrary.

Now, regarding Lucifero, I think episodes 11 and 12 will cover the battle itself and then episode 13 will be the destruction of his 50% half alongside the wrap up of the arc.
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>>291537928
It's pretty obvious. Lilith has boobs while he has pecs.
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>>291537916
Yeah me too, caught me out of guard because i didn't notice the blue filter until Jack cut it off, genuinely a good way to deal with an abstract concept like gravity magic.
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>>291535003
1 VA for both devils is a cool choice.
Really excited to see how they do
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I love Sol and dont care if shes bi(she was attracted to a boy in her youth)
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>>291538163
Yeah, but I didn't pay that much attention to that when I read the manga
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>>291538346
Magna's wife
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>>291533520
Dante should never have used those in the first place. Tabata letting Dante create black holes only served to make Lucifero's use of gravity magic look inferior to that of a mere host's. The scene from the Yami fight where Dante deletes a mountain with a single attack should have been saved for a Lucifero flex, especially since it still remains one of the most impressive attacks in the series.
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>>291528571
Mereoleona is humanity's peak form btw
>not loved by mana
>no 4 leaf grimoire
>no spirit
>no devil
No hax, all strength earned through willpower alone and she keeps raising the ceiling.
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>>291520236
Imagine all that animating talent wasted on Black clover of all things, kek.
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>>291538876
To be fair Lucifero didn't have his grimoire with him, so he couldn't use spells the way Dante could.
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>>291539046
Making a ball out of gravity is not complex, at least not any more than the ball of ice and fire that the twins made, also without a grimoire.
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>>291539046
>didn't have his grimoire with him
skill issue
licht didn't have his grimoire either and not only did he use named spells, he even busted out ultimate magic
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>>291539242
bonjour
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>291539317
fucksake
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>>291535003
It's crazy that Tabata never revealed all of the supreme devils' designs when they were easily one of his best creations. There should have been a second movie about them and Diamond kingdom to set up the final arc. Well I guess there is still a very small chance that they could be used in an epilogue movie similar to the one Naruto got.
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>>291538935
I mean she's got royal blood but yea sure
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>>291539317
charlotte fuck this everynight
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>>291539317
Jack wanted to slice THIS up?
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>>291539361
Royal Blood just means high mana levels and she surpassed that long ago
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>>291539317
Nacht wants to play tag with this?
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Holy fuck I forgot how dick obliterating Vanicas behavior was, god I want to be enslaved by her so bad
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>>291539362
Yami colonized her pussy.
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>>291539571
And she's just getting started, we only got an appetizer this episode
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>>291539936
Lmao. She jobs to Noelle like a loser and Megicula takes the true spotlight.
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>>291540162
We're not talking about that anon
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>>291537080
This was fine for the content being adapted.
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>>291539046
Devils don't have Grimoires, as a rule
Just look at all the bullshit Zagred had to do to get one
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>>291533836
What's the benefit of bathing in lava?
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>>291540984
something something mana
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>>291540984
It stimulates lactation
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>>291538018
Pierrot please adapt this color page.
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>>291539332
still falling for the classics I see
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Magazine previews for the next EP
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>>291542344
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>>291542390
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>>291542344
Zenon looks sick.
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season 2? there's like 400 anime episodes already
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>>291543185
japan has low english scores please understand
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>>291541855
special ending where it's a panning shot of that color page
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Any news from the New York Comic Con event?
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>>291543526
I need them to animate a 5 mins scene of it
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>>291520236
does black clover actually have a real conflict or is it just fairy tail 2.0?
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Jack is still BASED.
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>>291538018
>>291541855
>>291543526
should adult siblings really be laying around each other naked in a pool of blood?
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>>291543847
....doing what anon?
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Man Im disappointed in how they portrayed Mereoleona, she just became orange and did a big punch.
Failed to portray any "heat".
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>>291544052
it's like how finns sauna together dw
but with blood
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>>291539408
And it provides being rich, not having to worry about any obligations and allowing you to just fuck off and be a bum do nothing but train.
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>>291544067
Playing around in the blood
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>>291544033
I love characters who are just focused on one thing and that one things lets them bullshit their way through situations.
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>>291543869
Fairy Tail had real conflict
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>>291545243
>BRO I HAVE GRAVITY MAGIC AND INFINITE REGEN LOL YOU CANT DO ANYTHING!
>FUCK YOU, I'LL SLASH YOUR GRAVITY TO PIECES AND MY SLASHES MAKE IT SO YOU CANT REGEN!
His magic is supremely based and if he's given enough time, he can counter just about anything.
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>>291544352
She lives off the land so that's not important
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>>291538935
>>291545353
She really is just hard work and genetics. Like you said, not beloved by mana, no spirits, just worked hard as fuck to achieve her strength. She's definitely the strongest captain.
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>>291543597
Nothing I've seen.
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I've been meaning to catch up with the first half but it's been a while and I totoally forgot where I was. Catching up with shounen is always a pain.
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>>291542344
>>291542390
>>291542405
Already?
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>>291545945
the last episode of the first season covered most of ch.270
volume 27 was chapters 262-272 (ch.271+272 is asta's devil union training)

volume 28 is chapters 273-282 which covers
>magic knights arriving to spade
>mereoleona vs demon
>yuno vs zenon round 1
>charlotte vs vanica
>jack vs dante
>underworld door opening letting out lilith and nahamah
>100% dark triad forms
>demon attacking clover
>asta defeating that demon with devil union
and then volume 29 begins with the late arrivals from the heart kingdom (ch.283) and luck using utlimate magic (ch.284)
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>>291543869
It's pretty much Fairy Tail 2.0, but with a better execution of the power of friendship thing.
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bros, those are her fucking nipples
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>dead thread on episode day
What killed the hype?
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>>291542706
>>291542676
How does one bed a woman like this.
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>>291546791
The manga.
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>>291546860
Best her in mortal combat
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Just finished the episode. It was pretty standard, I thought could it could have been directed better, I guess that anon was right when he said the 2xx (i forgot how many) frames per episode average was probably mostly effects. The direction of the episode had too many closeups imo and we didn't get the full flow of motion/events well enough. But, I'm assuming we'll get one standout episode out of every 2 of 3 episodes, and I'm still extremely happy with the season so far.
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>>291533836
Princia still negs
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>>291546791
Moving the manga from the WSJ to Giga.
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https://i.desu.si/flcLKpHw.mp4
(24 hours only)
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>>291547019
>>291547181
I coom
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Man I'm so glad i get to experience this live, week to week, the wait is masochistic but i know i'd binge the shit out of this all at once otherwise, and so much happens each episode it's truly like i'm reading the manga weekly again gaaaawd i'm so happy
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get it while it's hot, only 24 hours
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last one. someone should make an edit where the button is pink
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>>291528494
>>291528822
need her to step on me
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>>291529236
>>291529301
yawn
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>>291547360
what are you using to make these?
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>>291530002
Holy shit based Gakuto!!! He has the t/a/ste of anons.
Dallas has good taste too.
Hope you had a good time comic con reporternon
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>>291533024
>even Ufotable would've made it CGI.
Ufotable is a total dogshit studio, they did Kimetsu decently because they had the manga as a storyboard already but they completely took a dog shit on all of Fate, they are a fucking garbage studio fuck them
Otherwise I agree with ye laddey in terms of everything you said in your post
>the way the outsorcing studios "FILM" and direct their episodes (of which im sure we'll have at least 3 more)
true
shame the main Pierrot animators couldn't give more specific directing cues to the outsourced studios but i guess they had their hands full
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>>291543869
>>291546642
>>291545330
yawn
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>>291546791
>>291547029
>>291546904
yaawn
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>>291547966
the mereoleona videos were made with seeddance 2.0/2.5 on venice.ai atlascloud.ai, it's not really cheap though :P
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>>291547731
>>291548494
>>291548506
nice post bro
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>>291548533
You too
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>>291548533
He's quoting the audience during this episode, he's fine.
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>>291548576
xD 15 years of this and you still haven't innovated at all
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>>291548629
I'm not Tabata.
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>>291548636
You're about the same age tho xD
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>>291548533
He's just a retard BC bootlicker.
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>>291548960
xD the age thing got you huh?
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Do you guys think a Clover thread will ever hit bump limit after the season ends or will it just be forgotten by everyone?
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>>291549320
maybe if there's another movie
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>>291544033
>>291545243
>>291545341
I really like Jack, but man does Tabata did him dirty in the story, he never let him shine properly.
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>>291549530
True, but his last attack was epic, and I really liked his flashback, the anime is what didn't do it justice but the infant trauma imprinting onto him and being the psychological origin of his need to hunt stronger enemies, I thought was quite clever just like Finral and Vanessa's backstories. There was a tad more to it but I'm forgetting it
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>>291528494
Cute, would snuggle.
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>>291546784
Lava milkers, still would.
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>>291551128
We're finally getting the big sponsors bros.
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>haruka mirai is for asta
>black rover is for yuno
who is getting black catcher?
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>>291551397
>who is getting black catcher?
Damnatio.
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>>291551397
Secre
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>>291551306
kek
>>291551397
i know everyone said it already but black rover for the yuno full transformation was so random and didn't really fit lol. but i liked both the song and the transformation separately so it was fine.
black catcher is already vickeblanka again so i think the real question is what song does noelle get
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>>291552976
Noelle should get her ending theme from the first season after she beats Megicula.
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>>291552976
yuno getting black rover over his own theme is wild
https://youtu.be/4zNCknGc6oc?si=Fk1759osWq1k9Krb
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>>291553128
That could be sick.
I also like Here I stand from the movie. Maybe that could be played after her victory
>>291553359
Honestly his OST would have been 10x better for that particular scene
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>>291551128
>Beefsta is real
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They should have saved Black Rover for the season end reveal.
And I'm still hoping for Dream On in the finale.
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Spade is winning this again.
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interesting... i remember picking this up when it started airing but i didn't get to many episodes
i should probably give it another try
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>>291556807
You should read it. The manga has better animation.
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>>291555611
Nah, they need a song that speaks about the devil or some shit, maybe even something somber.

My wet dream would be a Sympathy for the Devil cover by Vickeblanka, but he won't have anything new to show for us this season.
>>291553359
>>291554154
Nah, Yuno's theme is not that good, or at least it doesn't "fit" to the image i have of Black Clover im gonna be honest, i never liked Black Clover OST that much aside from some outliers like "Legend" "Pentagram" and Dante's team.
BC OST was created in 5 months, and the goofiness and lack of planning shows up a lot.
I've been disappointed in their reuse of a lot of "Goofy" season 1 OST, i thought the composer would re-arrange a lot of songs like they did for the Season 2 second teaser in December, that one is incredible and it comes from a soundtrack that sounded "weird" in season 1.
This composer is pretty great when she has time and it really shows in the new OST, i just wish she made more (or maybe they're saving them for future episodes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwdMT-OiARI
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>>291556637
Glorious bastard ripping his shirt in style while hell breaks loose.
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Im sad BC world wasnt expanded upon like what the hell is the continent the peninsula the four kingdoms are on is about
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>>291555611
They will clearly use Haruka Mirai for the finale of the Lucifero fight. I won't have it any other way.
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WE CAN CATCH THE GAME
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>>291549530
>>291544033
If you really think about it, Jack robbed us of a kino 2v2, good guy x villain vs 2 villains
The twins didn't outright say they couldn't hurt Dante, they just said "it could get messy" because he was Lucifero's host.
Meaning they would have fought Dante if he got in their way or started getting too annoying
Actually Dante was shitting his pants looking at the twins before he went 100%
Idk, i just like the uncertainty, im sure you could still have Magna vs Dante even if Dante helped (and later betrayed) Nacht

Idk, i just want Dante to interact more with the devil possessed good guys, but dialogue was never Tabata's forte so i see why he backed off of that
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apparently there's going to be a jump press on the 12th at 8pm Japan time
the announcement pic includes asta's grimoire
>picrel
anime's already airing so what could they be announcing?
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>>291558390
it will be here:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=elmVwaZr3i0
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>>291558090
>>291556870
I mean the series finale.
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>>291558047
Anon forget that,
WHAT THE HELL ARE THE DEVILS?
How did they lose the first Qliphoth war?
Who defeated them?
Are they eldritch entities yearning for something (maybe surrogates like in Bloodborne?)
Why is Lucifero always seething?
Did a Dwarf and a human push his shit in in the past?
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>>291558390
>>291558485
They already did this am i wrong?
I remember the Kagurabachi/Black Clover cryptic announcement back in March-April of this year.
For Black Clover it was a new teaser or promotional pic for the anime, for Bachi it was the anime announcement, RIGHT?

Am i Right or going crazy?
im pretty sure we already had this news.
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>>291558561
anon it says October 12th at 20:00 right there
it's 4am in Japan right now
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>>291558561
I mean you're right that they were in jump press together before but this is a new one
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>>291528494
Charlotte just doesn't understand.
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>>291559203
>in a squad full of women
>too dense and het to understand
tragic
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>5 chapters adapted in the next episode again

I just re read them bros, and unless they dont play the OP and ED it will be too cramped , hell, they could even extend the duration to 30 minutes and it would still be a lot.

>Fight chapters go fast

Yes they do, but the problem is the changes in scenarios and the introduction of characters, there's also several mob/NPC fights in those chapters that include A LOT of characters, and those don't go as quick as 1v1 fights because they have to put the names of the characters on screen in case people forgot.

I know this means the REAL fights of the arc will get 1 or 2 whole episodes for themselves, but i really really loved the setup fights in the Spade arc, and specially the arrival of the reinforcements.
23 minutes might be too short for all that, if RE: Zero and JJK S3 have showed something is that the industry is open to extended episodes, so i hope Pierrot made at least 2 of those, 13 episodes are enough, but 13 episodes with some extra minutes each will be even better.
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>>291528494
>>291559203
>>291559537
Thanks, now I am imagining Charlotte fucking tied up(and loving it) Vanica with a strap-on made of her briar vines.
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>>291549552
I did really like his backstory in the manga, it wasn't nothing special or complex, but I did like how the death of his father made him abandon his "only fight weaker opponents" mentality and made him strive to get stronger. In the manga it all happens in a single individual chapter, so it's easier to digest, but in the anime due to the light speed pacing it all happens so fast there's barely time to digest it, which doesn't has the same impact. Doesn't helps his power up here ends up amounting to nothing because the twin devils end up interrupting the fight and Dante ends up defeated by another character either way, pretty much all Jack does in this arc is cleaning up Magna's sloppy seconds offscreen and jobbing against Lucifero, without mentioning how he also does nothing in the final arc either, and Tabata doesn't even had the dignity to let him stay dead and go out with dignity.
I kinda liked him as Yami's partner more than Nacht tbf, and it's sad he never got a proper moment to truly shine in the whole story because only the Black Bulls and Yuno can do anything in this manga.
>>291558345
That could have been interesting, but then again I don't see Dante cooperating with anyone other than his brothers, he's too arrogant for that.
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>>291560094
It can be argued that the power up helped Jack to sever Dante's head for good, it can be seen even in the epilogue that Dante can't regenerate from down the neck.
A slash of anti magic would have also done the trick but i guess Tabata didn't want Asta executing a human character yet.
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>>291560094
>because only the Black Bulls and Yuno can do anything in this manga
This is literally only a thing AFTER Elf Arc and why I maintain that everything starting with Spade was a huge downgrade. Elf was peak of the manga.
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Jack could beat Mahoraga
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>>291558390
Probably season 3 related
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>>291560094
Jack's handling could have been better if Tabata wouldn't have rushed the Qliphoth and more supreme devils would have come to the Spade to fight, but sadly he pulled the same thing he did with the Sephira apostles in the elf arc.
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>>291536683
Undine is better
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>>291561456
I forgot my mommy water giantess
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>>291542390
Cowards! the lot of them!
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>>291560094
>I don't see Dante cooperating with anyone other than his brothers,
i would've liked to see the dark triad fighting together, though any combination with even two of them probably would've been too difficult to handle
>>291560094
>>291560513
>because only the Black Bulls and Yuno can do anything in this manga.
*and mereoleona
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>>291562344
that's only one anime frame anon
maybe there will be a jiggle and/or another frame that sneaks it in
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Vanica telling Noelle to let her go so she can get stronger and they can keep fighting only for Noelle to go "Do I look like Goku to you? You die now" is one of my favorite moments
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>>291563071
Nonsense! execute them now!
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>>291558390
>>291558460
11 hours remain
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>>291562344
It's tough out there anon. Give them some grace.
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>>291520236
I feel weird, i know the pace is rushed, but somehow tmthe episode feel longer once you get immersed on it so it balance it out
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>>291539317
Goodbye to my multiyear streak avoiding this
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So, is this the last season?
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>>291566026
this one no, the next one next year yes
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>>291565748
Might as well click on it everytime now
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The anime is #1 worldwide. Ignoring Beerus like people should.
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I am so ready for the fist fight episode
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WHY DON'T WE GO
TO YELLOW BRICK ROAD
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>>291560094
>>291560513
>only the Black Bulls and Yuno can do anything
This is a crazy thing to think.
That's 21 fucking characters.
>>291560517
He did beat Gojo
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>>291561456
she deserves better
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How many chapters is the black clover manga ?
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>>291520236
>Outlived my hero academia and has better reception
Lol
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>>291566369
The bar is pretty low but cool cool cool
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>>291567772
392
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>>291567906
Thanks. Going to be reading the manga soon.
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>>291566369
Black Clover Is also ahead of Beerus.
If Episode 3 is of the same or higher quality than episode 1 we could even get the most watched episode of the year on the platform.
(I don't know what that is at the moment, my guess is Uro vs Yuta vs Ryu)
From that on Black Clover will keep breaking it's own records with Episode 5, 7, 9 and 13.

Preview images for Episode 3 are out btw.
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>>291568348
It's actually still Solo Leveling
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>>291568348
I forgot to add, the last time Black Clover and Dragon Ball shared a season together was back in 2018, almost 9 years ago.
Great to see father and son again at the same time, hopefully Moro Arc and Judgement Day arc release on the same season too.

>>291568506
>It's actually still Solo Leveling
Solo leveling came out last year.
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>>291568348
Most of the stuff from the trailer is happening this EP right?
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jump press with black clover news soon
>https://youtu.be/elmVwaZr3i0
4 and a half hours remain
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>>291566383
3-4 weeks at this rate.
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>>291569643
>Wow it beat Mushoku, Re Zero, and Apothecary? That's kind of insane
It beat everyone, and actually its bar to surpass was JJK Season 3 debut episode, and it did.
JJK S3 Ep 1 is at 130k likes after 8 months.
Black Clover S2 Ep 1 is at 142k likes after 1 week, and it keeps rising.

One has to imagine how the negotiations between Pierrot, Netflix and Crunchyroll went, i imagine after Sony acquired them Crunchy has a lot more money to bid with and that's why they beat Netflix.
They've been marketing Black Clover non-stop this year, bringing it to all Anime Cons and putting ads everywhere, it's no surprise (at least for me) that its performing as good as it is.
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>>291570498
i've always figured these jump press things were simply to get ahead of magazine leaks
from this, every anime news outlet/account repeats the info
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>>291570506
Oh that...
Something happened with Pierrot/TV Tokyo and other anime studios and their commercial agreement with Crunchy in 2021, idk what went wrong but they got very stingy with sharing clips and pictures of their anime, Pierrot specially with Black Clover and Boruto.
It's like they heard about the overseas popularity and instead of capitalize on that they got more strict with the terms of their agreement or maybe put a higher price on it.

Boruto, Black Clover and Jujutsu Kaisen clips shared by Crunchyroll went from 2-3 minutes on average to less than 1 minute.
If you check the western twitter accounts for BC and Boruto (both managed by crunchyroll) they both lost the verified checkmark and 2021 was the last time they posted consistently.

My guess, is that Pierrot, Mappa and other studios, in true Japanese businessman autism fashion, thought the clips with multi million views (like the Black Bulls saving Finral or the countless ones from Boruto) were stealing "Value" from the IPs and decided to charge a bigger fee for media sharing or just asked them to post less and way later.

It's weird because Netflix posted A LOT from the BC movie when it released, they posted the first 4 minutes and 2 AMV with the main song and the ending song.
They actually included material that could be considered Season 2 material in the "Here i Stand" AMV (Charlotte and the captains meeting before going to Spade, Magna and Zora training)
Which made Crunchy getting the rights again even more unexpected for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSR7_V02S5Y
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>>291568348
My hero Sekke is so cool!
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>>291571152
Augustus Kira...
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>>291571774
i wouldn't be surprised if they care more about controlling the release of information, having your plans leaked by some rando twitterfuck is probably a reputation hit on their honor or whatever
though they could stand to have a better announcer, maybe try the ancient method of having a presentable woman be the announcer
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>thread looks active
What happened? We getting raided?
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>>291566369
MAL loves us too
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>>291570260
>one hour remains

btw bros has jump made chibi liebe plushies yet?
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>>291572308
>We getting raided?
those damn magic knights interrupting our bloody bathtime! >>291538018
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>>291572364
MAL eww
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>>291566369
This popularity is kind of pointless if it doesn't translate to anything tangible. I'm hoping for another movie to address some of the issues with the rushed final arc.
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>>291573090
>>291573093
jinx! now you two gotta kiss
:-)
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I suspected it would be about the digiga ebook... (out nov.10)
the preview of the new art piece was nice though
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>>291573090
yuno where's your other hand...
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>>291573090
Asta with his husband and two wives.
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>>291573406
Same day the Psyren digiga comes out!
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>>291573090
>Yamcha on a date
CUTE
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>>291573090
Liebe cute
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>>291573327
Black Clover seems popular as just a casual viewer anime
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>>291566369
>Black Clover is finally becoming big
>Kimetsu and JJK is still dominating shonen industry.

wellwellwell
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Who's Beerus
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>>291577876
Catnigga
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>>291573090
OUR HEROES
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>>291577727
>Black Clover is finally becoming big
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>>291577727
>Fujo kaisen
Yuck
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excellent tits
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>>291573090
I miss them so much.
Tabata come back
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>started reading black clover
>final arc
why is it always like this? do the authors simply give up because they're too tired?
can't remember the last time i read a decent final arc
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>>291573090
>>291573093
What the hell is mereo doing?
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>>291572370
>has jump made chibi liebe plushies yet?
For themselves
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>>291582608
I think she's a waitress. Her outfit looks like Nacht's.
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>>291573090
Charlotte and Noelles armpits look so sniffable VegetaDAMN!
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>>291582693
n- nyo...
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>>291573327
True, true, we need cultural impact desun. I suggest we bomb the world trade center and leave behind a bunch of Black Bull emblems.
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>>291582311
It's almost 400 chapters. I think that's a bit long if anything.
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>>291573327
>This popularity is kind of pointless if it doesn't translate to anything tangible
It's not pointless, it translates to actual value for the brand, the tangibility lies in proving that people watch Black Clover on the streaming service that paid for its rights.

It's what gave us the first movie actually, the first movie only started its planning stage after Crunchyroll released the numbers for the most watched anime of the pandemic (it was Black Clover)
If the Black Clover anime ended before Pierrot and Crunchy/Netflix realized its value, we would have gotten nothing in between seasons, instead we got the movie.
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>>291580948
>belly bulge
someone hold me
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>>291574607
b- but anon, the psyren digiga is *already* out...!
>https://digiga.shueisha.co.jp/
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>>291580948
>>291584077
holy RRRRRAPE
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>Jeremy malding on twitter with 2 accounts trying to claim the Apothecary Diaries is more popular than Black Clover
>Gets debunked, keeps posting the same debunked picture obsessively

He must have been IP range banned, /dbs/ threads have also been pretty chill lately.
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>>291583862
>popularity is pointless if it doesn't result in anything tangible
>no it's not pointless because [lists tangible benefits]
You're not the brightest crayon in the box, are you? If the popularity results in another movie then clearly there has been a tangible benefit. If there is no movie or other new content then the series may as well have had 0 viewers because the outcome would have been the same either way.
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>>291529959
They are proportionally modest!
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>>291585433
The popularity already resulted in a movie the first time, don't be so dense.
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>>291585708
Yes and the post you quoted was about the popularity of the second season and whether or not it would result in something similar. Or are you saying that a second movie is already guaranteed?
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>>291583061
She's just staring a light bulb
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>>291582608
She's laughing towards the horizon, watching an epic battle unfold on another continent
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>>291550515
Not for you anon. Sorry
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>>291520236
>new episode out
>2 day old thread still can't reach bump limit
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>>291587358
Reminder Bleach was axed in both manga and anime formats.
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>>291587873
>was axed in both manga and anime formats
Pot calling the kettle black, cloverfag.
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>>291551397
zenon
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>>291585889
The third season has already been confirmed
>>291587920
Jeremy's always talking to himself
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>>291582311
I wish people would actually criticize the arc instead of vagueposting about it
We had a great finale and more.
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>>291588665
>great finale
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>>291588665
>We had a great finale and more.
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>>291588665
Indeed, best ending of its generation, way better than JJK, MHA and Chainsoi.

I know some people put Fire Force as the true best ending of that gen but i don't care about Fire Force, so for me Black Clover won.
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>>291588726
>>291588737
>no criticism attempted
What are they afraid of?
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>>291582311
>>291588803
>why is it always like this?
>best ending of its generation
This is the same fucking commiserating bait.
Pretending ALL final arcs suck so Black Clover's final arc must too
Their failures don't affect us
Criticize it independently or admit the truth
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>>291588665
>We had a great finale and more
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>>291588726
>>291588737
>>291589370
If it's not great then why are there so many people here excited for this season?
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>>291589431
>there so many people here
be for real bro
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>>291588808
>>291589040
the finale could've been worse but it wasn't "great" which is why i put that "ehh..." gif
the laughing gif anon is just being a mean troll

anyways anons we've already given criticisms in previous threads, it's tiring to repeat them, go look in the archives to read them...
definitely a point of no return was lucifero coming out and then getting defeated by an out of nowhere "true" devil union, utterly and irrevocably ruining the powerscaling which *massively* sidelined multiple characters including half of the black bulls
and lucius was just such a meh and kind of annoying villain, especially after it was confirmed that he's the evil twin brother while julius was innocent, which cut the balls off of that "twist"
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>>291589431
>excited for this season?
because of HIM obviously
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>>291589440
Lucifero defeated 'true' Asta. The fight ends with all 5 of them together.
The full fight spotlights all the captains.
Whining about power scaling requires you to ignore everything that actually happened.
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>>291589440
>Trying to eh and meh your way out of making a point
Search the archive yourself if you can't think of anything worthwhile
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Man for me this was the best part of the episode, very eerie and Morris looked cool as fuck, the OST was new too im sure of it.
Nobody is talking about it, the Twins completely overshadowed Morris, its funny because for me the twins didn't hit as hard as they should have, i didn't like how they used that try-hard "HORROR!" music they also used with Zagred.
The twins actually went viral on tiktok and instagram, have seen several reels with hundreds of thousands of likes, hopefully Pierrot delivers with their fights.
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>>291589567
Tabata needed a big speech bubble saying " A HOST AND A CONTRACTED SPIRIT/DEVIL NEED TO KNOW THEIR TRUE SELVES TO ACCESS THEIR TRUE POWER, EITHER BY SHOWING MEMORIES (Asta and Liebe) OR BY SHARING A DEEP LOVE FOR THE SAME THING (Noelle and Undine)"
Maybe that way niggas would understand how true devil union came to be.
I agree that showing flashbacks mid fight is corny and cheap, but its not like there isn't a precedent, Liebe and the devils like lucifero can seemingly freeze time to talk with their hosts.
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>>291588803
Ohkubo actually gave Shinra a romantic resolution, so that alone makes Fire Force ending > Black Clover ending.
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>>291585139
kekkkk what the fuck? he's using apothecary diaries now lol.
dbs being chill probably means what you think it means yeah. i still see nue and kagurabachi falseflagging in the jump general though maybe he's just losing motivation
thanks doc
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>>291590030
>Ohkubo actually gave Shinra a romantic resolution
Nothing matches the catharsis of seeing Asta as the wizard king, even more so after a final arc in wich Yuno shined a bit more, i actually thought for a second Tabata would go with the dual wizard king bullshit.

So no, Fire Force doesn't win with the "romance resolution" edge, and for me Noelle x Asta is still better developed than Shinra x Iris up to those final chapters where Tabata started pushing Mimosa OUT OF NOWHERE.
[Spoiler] Fuck you Kubo this is your fault [/Spoiler]
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>>291589431
>so many people here
This thread has been up for 3 days and it still hasn't reached the bump limit. Where are these "so many people" you speak of?
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>>291588803
JJK and Chainshit are not the same generation as BC
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>>291591459
You're too conditioned by threads populated by aspies who throw shit at each other on cooldown. This is a healthy pace.
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>>291591384
BC ending isn't bad, but the lack of Asta x Noelle sucks, in that regard Fire Force wins for me.
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>>291570971
>>291570434
>>291589734
Thank you anons for all the information. Because you guys are so helpful, I hope you guys can take a look at thwis, pastebin.com/bVigrYvm (embed) and maybe we can share more info about the series together. (I mean it!) I'm looking forward to seeing the 4 new pre-serialization color artworks from Tabata next month!!
>true Japanese businessman autism fashion
yeah that stuff is alwazys sdo unbelievable man. but it's believable and that's what hurts
And Pretty cool to see someone whose highlight wasn't Mereo. And yeah the twins could have been scarier with better direction.
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>>291591635
>This is a healthy pace
That's cope and you know it. There's not many people here, that's a fact.
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>>291591635
Exactly, anons who come here simply enjoy Black Clover. It's imperative that we protect ourselves from other shonenspergs.

>>291591665
It'd be better if shonen didn't have harem/shipping fuel, I don't need to think about Noelle going "Bakasta!" when I'm trying to goon to her in the anime.
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>>291591665
Asta x Noelle simply wasn't that developed to begin with, it was going well when she admitted she loved him in the fight with Megicula, but after that they barely talked and Noelle spends the rest of the story still acting like a retarded tsundere. Tabata was too busy wanking his boyfriend Yuno for the 3678th time to properly give screentime to the most popular character of his manga.
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>>291591855
Thanks, anon. If I have anything more to add I will sure say it.
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>>291591665
Fire Force didn't end with Hibana getting properly in a family way though.
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>>291591896
That would have been too risky for young boys, would have made them start to seek out hags.
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>>291591916
Only through such challenges can strength be achieved.
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>>291588592
>The third season has already been confirmed
I thought that was just the second cour of season 2, but either way if it was already set in stone before season 2 even aired then clearly it's not a product of season 2's popularity. Can you please put your thinking cap on for just a second?
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>>291592143
If you're going to resort to ad homs after running out of arguments you might as well do it properly instead of using "african american" on 4chan of all places, especially when it's currently nighttime in the US. You somehow managed to be born both a retard and a pussy at the same time, sort of like an image board version of Yuno.
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>>291592294
notice how you didn't deny being african american. xcD
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>>291588665
Calling the finale meh would be generous. A big chunk of the arc is taken up by the Hino segment which introduced new characters that weren't even relevant in the final battle. Ichika was the only one who came to Clover because she was apparently the best at making the devil power sharing work with Asta, but he never ended up buffing her so that went nowhere. Likewise all the teasing about the gateway to hell and the heavenly maiden amounted to nothing. The time wasted on all the Hino stuff could have been used to show what the rest of the cast were doing, but the preparations of Yuno, Noelle, the BBs and the captains were either only given a few pages or skipped entirely. The other kingdoms fared even worse with Heart and Spade doing nothing to help save the world, and don't give me any bullshit about how they needed to protect their homes when the elves and the Diamond crew had no problem leaving theirs to come help. The Diamond crew are a problem in their own right with how they showed up literally out of nowhere with zero setup, presumably because Tabata felt he had to show the earth spirit somehow before the end of the manga so he just randomly threw it in.

Then there are all the things that were omitted. Not even a word of the dwarfs, no resolution to the witch that cursed Charlotte, only a couple of pages of backstory for Lucius who remained one-dimensional until the end, nothing about Astaroth beyond a mention at the start of the arc, no buildup to Adrammelech switching sides and so on. It's also ridiculous how established members of the cast like William, Dorothy and Kaiser kept getting shafted even in the finale and never got proper fights. Fuegoleon's long-awaited spirit dive was given a grand total of like 3 pages while Noelle and many other members of the cast never used the ultimate magics they trained with the elves to learn. Almost every plot point was either rushed or just abandoned.

So yeah, the final arc was like a 5/10 at best.
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>>291592457
Cont.

I fully understand that the reason why the final arc ended up as rough as it did was because Tabata's health issues prevented him from giving it the attention it deserved. I don't fault him on a personal level, but just because you have a good reason to call in sick to work doesn't mean I'm going to pretend like you did good work that day. It was an unfortunate situation out of his control that nonetheless ended up hurting the final arc of the manga and making it much worse than it could have been, especially in comparison to the rest of the series.

The biggest tragedy here is that the anime could have easily fixed most of these issues with enough time investment, but the production committee seemingly decided against it. According to the leaks the final arc is going to be adapted in just 1 cour or 13 episodes, which means there are going to be few if any additions. A 2-cour adaptation would have literally doubled the length of the arc and allowed Tabata too add in all the missing details. Another option would have been to make a canon movie set during the 2nd timeskip. Tabata even mentioned in the data book that Mars visited a dwarf village, which would have made for a great scenario for a movie that sets up the later appearance of the Diamond crew including the earth spirit while simultaneously addressing the dwarfs and maybe other missing elements as well, while giving some neglected characters a chance to show off properly. There was even a third option of simply continuing to make the anime weekly instead of seasonal, in which case it could have easily covered everything in the form of anime original content. If totally pointless characters like the fucking devil banishers or whatever managed to get screen time then imagine how much attention could have been dedicated to actually important elements. But alas, everything seemingly fell flat in that regard. People wanted sakuga and got monkey's pawed in terms of content.
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>>291592249
That's some pretty shit planning, did she read volume 27 afterwards?
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>>291592457
Hino was essential.

Isolating Asta forces him to focus on his own jealousy
A new country lets him be judged without devil prejudice
Reframing Ki normalizes how much training he had been too afraid to try
His new mentors show how Wizard King would actually change their country

>don't give me any bullshit about how they needed to protect their homes
Lucius attacking Hino also proves this
Emphasizing how he was a worldwide threat
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>>291592438
Huh, where did this go? I'll try torrenting it
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>>291592639
Based
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>>291592468
First, you need to understand Tabata chose Hino instead of Diamond
No extra anime time or Tabata steroids would change that decision
Things are written on purpose for a purpose
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>>291520236
Also, the stars aligned and we got a huge banger post in JAPAN (not the west).
About Nacht's dialogue (which I love a lot too)
https://x.com/suke742626/status/2109133779562623312
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>>291520236
and here's some recently discovered new petit black clovers.
some are erotic, some are cute.

https://goyimx.com/Potskiii/status/2108900175607730527
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goyimx.com/Potskiii/status/2109127960095867092
https://x.com/Potskiii/status/2109127960095867092
https://goyimx.com/Potskiii/status/2108897603526234188
https://x.com/Potskiii/status/2108897603526234188
https://goyimx.com/Potskiii/status/2108898689871925456
https://x.com/Potskiii/status/2108898689871925456

https://nyaa.si/view/2071745
hopefully someone is seeding this
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>>291592457
I will never forget Tabata for what he did to Mars.
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>>291592639
>>291592699
The issue with Hino is not that it happened but the way it went down. The final arc is only 60 chapters long which meant Tabata had to make each chapter count. Introducing new characters that close to the end and then not even utilizing them in the final battle essentially wasted some of that precious time. Each chapter spent on some random samurai jobbers was one that could now not be used to properly explore the remaining unresolved plot points. This lack of time is why so many of those plot points were later either rushed or entirely dropped. Asta reflecting on his personal issues and getting a power-up in the process was something that needed to happen and I can also appreciate Yami's backstory getting fleshed out further, but spending 1/3 of the final arc on just those two things alone meant the remaining 2/3 was going to be a speedrun.

>Lucius attacking Hino also proves this
You're putting the cart before the horse here. The reason why we saw Lucius attacking Hino was because Tabata had to come up with some way to involve the country in the final battle after spending so much time on it. This is why we did not see similar attacks taking place in Heart, Spade, Diamond and the elf village, because those factions did not have to justify their existence in the same way. If anything I would have really liked to see all of them being attacked since that would have reinforced Lucius as a global threat instead of making the battle almost entirely centered around Clover, while simultaneously giving those characters a last hurrah. Imagine the Diamond crew getting a proper fight instead of a largely off-screened one, or the elves showing their ultimate magics which were supposed to be their specialty, or Loropechka finally protecting her own kingdom and no longer feeling like a failure of a queen(another unresolved plot point). Hell, give me Yuno's mom nuking a Paladin with her moon magic. Missed opportunities everywhere.
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>>291593039
>spending 1/3 of the final arc on just those two things alone
I listed 6 things and Yami wasn't one of them
The cart and horse weren't created separately
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>>291548522
isn't there local stuff that can do the same? just much slower
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Gonna highlight some illiteracy
I don't want to get bogged down in details
>>291592457
>no resolution to the witch that cursed Charlotte
This literally came up in this episode.
Megicula is the source of all curses.
Charlotte is focused on systemic change and not random petty revenge.
>>291593039
>Loropechka finally protecting her own kingdom and no longer feeling like a failure of a queen(another unresolved plot point)
Lolo is validated as a queen by the guardians and Noelle rallying for her
That's what this Megicula fight was about
Another idea supported by Ryuya leading Hino
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>>291582311
He was nearly dying at the time
Hence the move to giga
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>>291593142
The other things are just part of Asta's growth and frankly not particularly important to begin with, hence why Tabata didn't delve into those things beyond brief mentions. Asta using a devil's power is not why he faced prejudice throughout his life, that was the result of him being a magicless peasant in a magic-dominated class society. Undoing all that was the reason why he wanted to become the WK, but unfortunately we never saw those changes manifest due to how rushed the ending was.

>>291594768
>This literally came up in this episode.
No it didn't. The episode addressed curses originating from Megicula, which is not the same thing as answering why a particular character was targeted with a particular curse. Just because you learn that a gun used as a murder weapon was produced in a S&W factory does not tell you why the murder was committed. More importantly, Tabata showed us the mystery witch's silhouette not once but twice over the course of the story, which makes it pretty clear that he had plans for the character which were then later dropped for whatever reason. It's far from being the biggest issue with the final arc so I can sort of understand why you would want to focus on that detail in particular if your goal is to defend the finale though.

>Lolo is validated as a queen by the guardians and Noelle rallying for her
Her issue was not about wanting to be validated, but her feeling like a failure of a queen because she couldn't even fight to protect her people. We later learned that Undine was deliberately coddling her for selfish reasons so there was apparently a path for Loro to become a proper queen instead of a perpetual damsel in distress who always needed someone else to wipe her ass for her, but we sadly never got to see any progress on that front. I blame it on Tabata fumbling the spirit users in general given how Fuego and Feremena ended up, perhaps because he was worried about them overshadowing Yuno or something.
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>>291596036
>a path for Loro to become a proper queen
This is a full misread of what the manga is about.
Lolo is already the best queen.
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>>291596370
>strategically cropping out the rest of that page to make a point
I'm so tired of dishonest people like you who simply cannot bring themselves to argue in good faith. The point of this exchange was that Undine withholding information from and making decisions for Loro without consulting her were wrong, but Noelle doesn't blame her for those mistakes because they were made out of love. This doesn't mean that Noelle wants Loro to forever remain sad and insecure by maintaining the status quo, because that would be a horrible thing to wish on your friend and completely out of character for Noelle. As it stands the resolution of this conflict was left open so we don't know if the situation is still unchanged or if Undine came clean to Loro and helped her grow or if Noelle somehow managed to convince Loro that there's nothing wrong with remaining weak. The third option would be quite ironic considering how Fuegoleon gave Noelle the exact opposite advice, but in theory it could be fitting given that water and fire are opposites. It doesn't really feel like something Noelle would say though. Either way, Loro's character arc was never fully resolved.
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>>291594768
>Lolo is validated as a queen by the guardians
They're fucking weak and never do anything
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Again, the ridiculous powerscaling shit where everybody except the usual suspects became entirely worthless only happened AFTER Elf arc. It all went downhill with the demon shit and Spade.
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>>291597171
Gachad is cool but I don't really understand why the others even exist. They're useless both as guardians as well as characters. I you told me they were anime original filler I would believe you.
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Man I love Black Clover so much.
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>>291597892
We know, single guy responsible for every post itt.
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>>291597211
The scaler liars have always been there.
Asta will win one fight and fans will screech when he loses the next.
All those characters still being stronger than him isn't a plot hole.
It's the theme.
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Fuck I can't decide who's my favorite character there's too many good ones
It varies between Nacht Yuno and Asta quite often and others too
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>>291599546
Trying to sneak Nacht there.
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>>291592699
>Things are written on purpose for a purpose
We all had theories and fanfic about what might have been.
You can imagine the author secretly shared your ideas and was limited by some conspiracy.
But in the end decisions were made and some of our interpretations turned out wrong.
This is not a failure of execution.
It's a failure of criticism.
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What are your top 3 openings? It's a bit early for me to pass my verdict on Kienai Riyuu but it will definitely be up there for me. Right now its:
>Haruka Mirai
>Black Catcher
>Right Now
in that order.
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>>291600637
>Paint it Black
>Black Catcher
>Rakugaki Page
For EDs it's
>The Shoujo/Yaoi looking one
>The cute sad side scroller one
>The newest one
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>>291600687
>Paint it Black
Meant to say JUSTADICE but paint it black is alright too
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>>291600637
>What are your top 3 openings
Grandeur
Right Now
Haruka Mirai
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>purple orcas
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>>291600637
It might be the visuals or recency bias but opening 14 might is in my top 3 right now.

I think it has one of the best lyrics and the singer sounds like pouring his soul into the song, plus the instrumental is made to sound melancholic by default.
The opening duration doesn't give it justice and the editor ended it wrong so it feels like it ends abruptly, but the full song shows that the best moment to end it was in the second chorus, not the first one, the first chorus doesn't have the same force or impact.
Going back to other openings im realizing how static or repetitive they were with their visuals, or how even the worst animators/animation supervisors of the team were allowed to touch them, like that guy who draws Asta eyes like triangles genuinely ruined his walking closeup in opening 13,
OP 14 might be the best looking one ever because the elite memebers of Pierrot's team were able to do it all themselves.
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>>291599546
kissing Noelle's noelles
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>>291603245
Op14 is virtually the same team as Op8
Less staff and more constraint even
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>>291604584
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>>291599312
Nacht never wins a single fight
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>>291600637
Gamushara (especially the early acoustic version)
Stories
sky & blue
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The Empire Stage had 3000 seats
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>>291593202
You probably need a crazy GPU, I wouldn't know, but maybe search WAN 3.0 and what computer you need for it. I was using seeddance though which isn't public
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>>291598098
what
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>>291606946
this doesn't matter if you're not subhuman?? this isn't dragon ball
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>>291593142
>>291594768
I don't think character arcs that didn't get addressed really matters, there could be 100 characters who don't get delved into but as long as one of them has a great story the final arc would be great. That said obviously I'm not going to say the final arc is a 10/10 or higher than 8/10 because most of it was super rushed, but we did get a lot of satisfying stuff. pastebin.com/bVigrYvm If we are talking about organization, structure and literal perfection of a final arc though, I'd love to hear some examples (you can let me know at that link what examples you have, but either way take a look) because even in non-serialized material I don't think such things really exist. Even in novels we follow the spotlight, not the entire list of named characters. Manga readers have this weird impression that every named character deserves an equal amount of time or something (I'm exaggerating but still)
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>>291611519
It does matter if you're in a battle shonen manga.
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>>291611673
no
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>>291611759
It does tho.
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>>291611950
gotta disagree there
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>>291612707
Well I disagree with you too.
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>>291612760
Win count is a manchild's izzat status bar for characters, only needed for inferior species without imaginations who don't know how they'd feel if they didn't have breakfast this morning



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