>"Finally Ghost in The Shell is getting a REAL adaption of the REAL story, unlike the dumb melodramatic movie!">Anime comes and goes making zero impact whatsoever, and is forgotten immediately after airing.There's a reason what 90% of people loved about Ghost in the Shell was the 1995 movie. It inspired countless creators, and is the inspiration for many classics like The Matrix. Meanwhile, the original manga has inspired practically no-one, and isn't what most people care about the IP for.
Assuming you're a genuine real person, do we really have to keep having this fucking argument over and over and over and over and over and over again forever. And please actually answer the question instead of immediately getting defensive and insuate that I'm trying to stifle "discussion" like a lot of these repeat posters do
OP is a troll who doesn't watch anime. He deserves only a a ban and then a beheading.
It’s not a "real" adaptation just because you vaguely mimic the visual style while sticking closer to the original manga.If you strip away the marketing, the philosophy, the themes, and the "substance"—it’s just not there. It simply ISN'T the manga.And you won't make any impact when you choose to follow trends instead of leading the change.This shit was conceived as slop, and it has remained slop. You’re all to blame. If you want to watch it, just pirate it; watching it legally—or worse, paying for a subscription—only drives the quality of anime further and further down. If you pay for this shit, YOU are to blame. You are part of the problem.
Sexually mindbreaking Movietoko until she does Mangatoko's ahegao face and remains stuck as as a gothic lolita bimbo forever.
Rent-free.
>>291536227>cartoonifies herSo hot
>>291536227Oshii won
>>291537520Fuck off bot did you read a goddamn thing I posted or did you just reply to everyone.I repeat;Why do we have to have the same threads arguing the same shit over and over and over again forever
Left is "CGI before CGI", right is "cartoon".
>muh botAccept your concession gladly
>>291537673Maybe you should learn proper grammar first
>impactWhat does this even mean at this point? What anime actually has "impact" on popular culture in the West any more? Dragonball? Demon Slayer? One Piece? The OG Ghost In The Shell came out in a different time, I'm not sure any seasonal anime have that kind of "impact" on Western audiences even more.
I thought the show was great.
>>291539037smooching the majorand then getting this reaction from her>>291538412
>esl shitskin bragging bout 'muh grammer'Just like poem.
>>291536227Movie digs deeper into the themes and ideas of GitS where as the show is a surface level straightforward adaptation of the manga. Two very different adaptations for two very different audiences.
>>291536227Having the cartoonish style and making the series more goofy is whatever, but at the end of the season the characters were spouting out words that sound vaguely scientific to try to sound deep and it really fell flat. It's like the writers half-read Wikipedia articles about psychology and spirituality and then smoked a bowl before getting to work.
>>291539206>Movie digs deeper into the themes and ideas of GitS No it doesn't.It sidesteps them and goes for totally different themes insteadIt's like if you made an adaptation of the New Testament where Jesus never performs any miracles and just believes that he might be the son of God, maybe, not sure, doesn't really matter anyway because it's more about his troubled friendship with Judas or something.
>>291536607extremely enlightened post
>>291539394I'll make it happen
>>291537627Cope
>>2915362272.0 is getting adapted too btw, cry about it
>>291536227I love Sextoko
Didn't watch the old one.Didn't watch the new one.It's all garbage.
>>291539547Powerful sex gremlin!
It was AOTS, probably AOTY.
>>291538412an old series like GitS is even at a disadvantage when it comes to something like that, it would need to be multitudes better than the earlier anime stuff to really make a big impression
That's because the vast majority of the people posting about it were literal paid Netflix shills. How do you think 4chan makes its money?
>japanese ""humor""
>>291539738of the century if you ask me but i'm biasedMotoko STRONK
>>291539797>Amazon show>Netflix shills
>>291536227Shirow did inspire some authors doever
don't care about the 1995 moviedon't care about the 2026 slopluv me Stand Alone Complex
>>291539603her butt smells bad
>>291540111it's to be expectd from a woman who can literally eat as much as she wants without gaining weight, and doesn't need to wipe after taking a shitshe's SHITMAXXING
>>291540135Do people with artificial bodies even poop?
>>291540360they don't have to if they choose to only eat nutrient pills.But if they choose to eat cyborg food (which Motoko does) then yeah they do, all that fluff doesn't just vanish into thin air.
>>291536227Worst anime of the year so far.>b-but muh classic and brandnameLazarus won worst anime of the year last year, it can happen again.
>>291536227What?
>>291540596>Lazarus won worst anime of the year last yearReally? I remember hearing it was nominated for one of the best or some shit even though of how dogshit it is.
>>291536227>the matrix>classicNot at all. No one under 35 gives a shit about the Matrix. GITS 95 hit at a good time for anime in the West as it was extremely palatable to people that hated Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z because they were for kids, but wanted to in on the Japanimation Craze. Today it is still known as the "good anime for people that don't like anime". But beyond that history, which isn't the fault of the film at all, it still has problems. It completely ruins Motoko's character. It turns her from a savvy and extremely canny character to one that totally lacks the ability to take a piss by herself without going into a depressive spiral. Motoko in the manga and in the 2026 anime might be a hedonistic degenerate, but when she's on the job you can believe why people follow her. 1995 Motoko couldn't take a dog for a walk without being dragged around.
>>291536227There is a part of me that laughs at elitists from the past that their "masterpiece story" has ways been a poorly written, autistic goonerbait.
>>291539343You don't need long-ass comments in technobabble fashion to follow the general theme well, Anon.
>>291540973True.In Oshii's defense, he did it on purpose, and it serves his broader points about psychology, faith, and relationships.What's way more egregious is how the Wachowskis took a film that deliberately avoids committing to the gnostic elements of the manga (and even criticizes them) and repurposed its imagery in their pro-gnostic movie.Because unlike Oshii who probably understood the finer points of the manga, I don't think the Wachos understood even half of the 95 movie. They just NOOTICED all the jungian/campbellian bits in there, and called it a day.So saying "the movie is good cause the Matrix is inspired by it" is like saying Silence of the Lambs is good because it inspired Longlegs
>>291541040The technobabble isn't related to the general theme, that's why the movie shortened it A TON. Unlike Shirow, Oshii isn't trying to convince you that the Puppetmaster is dropping actual wisdom.
>>291536227nobody really cares about 1995 other than boomers who saw it on tv or whatever other boomer medium though, they're not even anime fans, just normies who gazed into the anime world for a second thanks to it and were captured by how foreign it was. it had no long term legacy, unlike Akira which zoomers still larp constantly to this day
>>291536227I liked it and the rest of the extended GitS universe, save for some of the previous CG stuff but I haven't even watched those.Just cool it, guy.
>>291541167Honestly the directors of the Matrix really didn't take much from Ghost in the Shell 1995 other than, "stylish cyberpunk action". Which, fair. GITS 1995 has good action scenes. But as far as the story goes if anything they decided to make a film that is contrary to GITS 95 in every way. Like the whole Matrix series is fundamentally at odds with the GITS 1995 film's idea of identity and one's own inability to trust in self-perception. Instead, Neo learns that all his doubts about the world were 100% right and he's shown the real world and never again is there any debate about what is real and not real until the reboot 30 years later.
>>291541431Yeah I find it endlessly amusing how the most popular theory around the time Reloaded came out (and is still being passed around) is that the Real World is just another layer of the Matrix and that Neo's enlightenment is not just a freak accident the Machines have learnt to work around, but a complete sham designed from the ground up to further enslave people.Wouldn't you know it, that's literally the plot twist in Oshii's Avalon.
>>291538412If your anime/game/movie/etc. doesn't have a regular general thread full of low-quality shitposts made by obsessive autists that means it wasn't actually good
>>291541431They were so high on drugs at their crazy sex parties to even know what the fuck they were doing. They lucked out having a good stunt team and a camera guy who figured out how to "bullet time". Otherwise nobody would even have heard of that movie. They hated it in the end, and actively tried to ruin it with the sequels.
Motoko, my love.
Not a hater or anything, i think the only thread i ever participated in was the first one, but it's amazing how forgotten this anime became? For a supposed classic, people really didn't give a fuck, huh
>>291543267there's too much anime nowadays and these last seasons have been particularly good so there's that.there's been plenty of motoko threads after the fact, though.
>>291543267>Didn't show up for the multiple threads each episode>Thinks /a/ doesn't care about it
>>291542592Teasing the major when she pees a little!
shousa STRONK
>>291536360>do we really have to keep having this fucking argument over and over and over and over and over and over again forever.People would rather get mad than actually discuss anime.
>ghost in the reddit>impact
>OP baits you fags yet againDamn he's good.
>impactNormalfag metric. Like realism.
I don't care about OP's intentions. I see Motoko I post Motoko. This is now a Motoko thread.
>>291543267>I forgot about about it but I'm going to pretend as if that's /a/'s fault.
I thought the new show was great. I thought SAC was great. I thought the 1995 movie was great. There's been some terrible GITS that's been made, but if you like GITS I think you pretty much have to like all three iterations at their best.>>291545351Who cares, it's an excuse to talk about this great show.
I really liked the crows.
>>291545851Poor bird. And Togusa I guess.
SAC was very impactful on me because I saw it so young and it looked so "adult" and "serious;" which to be fair, even now I think it's pretty solid. Definitely high tier media when compared to the ocean of garbage around it.
>>291536607For me it's moviekoto leg-shaking full body orgasms with the unblinking doll face looking at you the entire time
>>291536227Agree. It’s almost hard to believe how bad the science saru shit was. The lesson here is that you shouldn’t adapt shit source material 1:1
>>291545438https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwjFxCkTBr8
>>291539343That's almost The Last Temptation of Christ
>>291536227>Finally Ghost in The Shell is getting a REAL adaptionYes.
>>291546854Yeah I know, but it's hard to chalk everything in that book/movie up to Jesus Chungus having schizophrenia. He rips his heart out in front of everybody, you know>>291545851Ghorantl must pay for this. I wasn't 100% against them until this happened.
>>291547042the shadow of raindrops projected onto her is pretty kino
>>291547077It's pretty nice, indeed.
>>291539343the movie is like an atheist version where major combines and becomes a higher evolved form of life, the manga touches the divine aspect of what a higher level would/could be.the movie went deeper but its focus was tradition vs technology as japan was in the boom period and can japan stay japan as it undergoes rapid growth.the manga is dude god lmao, which is fine, i dont think the manga ever attempts to be serious or this massive juggernaut of an ip that the movie made it into, a lot of the baggage the ip carries seem to come from the super serious movie/stand alone series and other scifi that came out at the time like matrix, T2, neuromancer ectect. the manga doesn't seem to care about those themes and just goes with the flow as light hearted cyber cop action
>>291540973>No one under 35 gives a shit about the Matrix.no one under 60 cares about citizen kane
For me, it's SAC.
>>291547225>as japan was in the boom periodIn 95??
>>291547285my bad explaining my thoughts. the people making the movie lived through the boom, they saw the massive leap in tech and the death of a lot of the more traditional stuff. its like how people call things 'millennial' or 'zoomer' when its still all being made by boomers and gen x
>>291536227It did inspire a lot yuri shit
>>291547225The god stuff lmao in the manga does serve a deeper purpose though, which is to provide an objective in-universe confirmation of the overarching themes of evolutionary pressure, instability and interconnections between all systems. Those themes are also illustrated in the plot itself, Motoko is an excellent vehicle to explore them because she's a super-spook, but the mystical elements anchor those ideas into the fabric of the universe itself by showing that this is how everything works in this setting. So Motoko's evolution isn't strictly about her, it's a springboard for further developments in Shirow's universe.The movie is just one story, there isn't enough time to create a complex web of relationships between section 9, Motoko's private life, geopolitics and various government institutions. Oshii prefers his protagonists to be disconnected from reality anyway so he has no reason to spend time exploring Motoko's connexions with the rest of the setting, either politically, emotionally, mystically or practically. And since Oshii doesn't have an Appleseed or MMI movie down the pipes, he has no incentive to show you what Motoko's evolution actually entails.As a result, when those themes are introduced in the movie through dialogue and imagery, they ring hollow because they merely reflect what the characters (Motoko and the Puppetmaster) believe about life, as opposed to how the world itself works.
>>291539603>>291539037>>291539959>>291539776>censorShow is ass
>>291540064RIP half-Russian singer
>>291536227How about you faggots admit Ghost in The Shell has always been bad,yes even the boomer 95 film
>>291547488>The movie is just one story, there isn't enough time to create a complex web of relationships between section 9to be fair this is true in the manga also. it did a better job with her private life, geopolitics and various government institutions. i like both but my main problem with the manga is how everything feels rushed, i wanted more not 2 chapters per plot and then rushing off to something else
>>291547581Four or five extra chapters would have been great yeah, with ties to the other chapters I mean, not purely episodic stuff
>>291547488>And since Oshii doesn't have an Appleseed or MMI movie down the pipes, he has no incentive to show you what Motoko's evolution actually entails.Would be extremely funny if next year he made a third Ghost in the Shell movie.
>>29154776795: Batou gets blueballedInnocence: Batou and Motoko get blueballed2027: Batou, Motoko and Togusa get blueballed
My ftavorite part about Jeremy shitposting is when he makes a goyball analogy and starts comparing Naruto to Messi or whatever
>>291536227someone left their json script running well into the following season, embarrassing
Guys, I just found out my daughter was actually my wife all along.Am I gonna be in trouble?
>>291536227need the scene on the right she looks HOT
>>291547801Jeremy?Like, Jeremy Hamplanet Hambly?
>>291547837
>>291547901built for WEDGIES and HAIGURE
>>291547470based
>>291547798Time for movie timeline Togusa to out-divorced dad SAC Togusa.
>>291547824What do you mean?
Were those spider tanks also such comic reliefs in the manga?
>>291548807meanwhile the mangaka was like>humans die when they are assplode? orly?>haha i draw funny symbols.scifi nipponeses are very unserious people. you don't have to think too hard about the 3deep5u materials they produce.
>>291548997forgot mangashot.
>>291548893You sound like exactly the sort of person that won't just let him read his manga in peace.
>>291536227>There's a reason what 90% of people loved about Ghost in the Shell was the 1995 movieSHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THIS MOVIE. Everyone who glazes this piece of shit either watched it on tv as a kid and remembers it through the nostalgia goggles or didn't watch it all. The story is incomplete, it's not bad but it's a fucking nothingburger, it only sets things up for further plot development. Akira had the same issue but Akira works as a standalone story but GitS (1995) is not the same case. The animation is great only when things are moving, but too bad that 80% of the movie people just stand around like cardboard cutouts, the elevator scene is a worse offence than the similar elevator scene in Eva.As for the MUH GRITTY TONE - it's entirely asinine pseudoscientific, pseudo-philosophical shit that is either something completely obvious but said with le smart words or some bullshit that makes sense but it sounds complicated!!1!!1And finally MUH IMPACT - doesn't mean shit. Titanic had a big impact, doesn't make it a great movie - it's a cheesy as fuck love story that's held together by the visual fx and the entire third act effectively conveying the sense of unavodiable doom. If reviewed objectively - it's a B movie at best.In the end: fuck you, nigger
>>291549130stop replying to yourself, OP.
>>291549181what the fuck are you trying to say?
>>291549084i was reading my ghosturn in peace peace until the editor decided to add in that bullshit "climate change caused wuhan flus!!! note" into my sex-yuri manga!!!
>>291549130>Titanic had a big impact, doesn't make it a great movieleonardo's ship movie was a shitty if not "vanilla" shojo manga about an ugly fat ojosama getting to fuck a cute shota-like commoner.
>>291549130>the elevator scene is a worse offence than the similar elevator scene in Eva.By your own metric, that one's still "worse" since it lingers for much longer on one frame.
>>291536227It's crazy outside of this post I don't see people talking about the new anime at all after it aired.
>>291549923Yeah it's crazy considering we've had weekly threads including one that was still active yesterday.It's almost like you have a severe mental disorder
>>291549907Fair enough, but at the same time GitS 1995 is just one movie under 90 min while Eva 1995 had 26 episodes with the 22 min runtime, the animation stalling moments take up a bigger portion of the movie than the same moments do for Eva
>>291536227Sounds like confirmation Bias. I've seen plenty of discussion about the show both when it was airing and afterwards. It's just that with the modern internet most people just move onto the next thing pretty damn quickly.
