>my life is over I'm a friendless shut-in loser with no skills that will never accomplish anything and needs someone else to save him>twenty two (22) years oldlooking back, this was kind of silly
most japanese people think you're an elderly old fart by 30
>>291559476I am him but 36 years old.
>>291559476If you're 25 and over and you say this then it really is over.Get moving, time slows down for no one.
>>291559476If you're a loser at 22 it's over. People don't change.
>>291559572>elderly old fart by 30only if you are a zoomer druggie who took so much that your skin and organs rapidly aged.many "clean-living" otaku still look like teens in their 30s, for better or worse.
>>291559662it's a cultural thingyou wouldn't understand
I was a lot like satou when I was around his age. I don’t have anxiety anymore because I stopped giving a fuck what people think of me and just accepted that I’ll be a loser for the rest of my life. If I ever have sex it will likely be with a woman prostitute or a female robo fuck buddy.
>>291559662>"clean-living">otaku
>>291559629fuck...
>>291559983See you on the other side
>>291559572It's pretty common for a lot of kids to forget that life doesn't end immediately after high school / college.
>>291559572Most people in general think that.It's always "almost 30" or "pushing 30" or "already 30" or "wow, I thought you were younger"
>>291559476Not really. When you're totally isolated at an age where you're comparing yourself to everyone around you and the people you went to school with it can be hard to find a way out of the abyss since the only person you have is yourself who's constantly putting you down. I was 22 when I started getting my shit together after being a neet since I graduated highschool.
>>291559572
>>291559476He wasn't wrong. This "I'm not old" thing is a cope.
>>291559476For most of human history a 22 year old was a grown ass adult with a family and responsibilities
>>291563736This isn't most of human history. This is Reiwa.In Reiwa 35 year old men will be allowed to attend middle school again to court and groom their prime tween-aged wives.
I remember watching this anime for the first time at 14 years old and thinking it was a colossal failure for a grown adult like Satou to be such a failure. Now I'm a decade older than he is and somehow managed to achieve even less
>>291563736For most of human history, 22 year olds were afforded opportunities for adult development instead of being forced to retreat into their parent's home by freefalling wages, a hostile job market and skyrocketing rent and housing pricesNot to mention how social media and dating apps paradoxically made finding a romantic partner and friends harder than ever
>>291559572>>291560316The issue is that by 30 you are old and you should have things going for you beyond something a teenager could achieve and this was understood in the past and we all have a sense that we are failures for not achieving this but because of just how fucked up things are, like >>291563967 points out, many men are essentially forced to be infantized either by lack of means or shrinking opportunity. Even those who would naturally be behind on becoming an adult no matter the time period are hampered by the many garments of the modern age as it is one more hurdle to overcome, artificially keeping them down. If I remember correctly, the Norse had a phrase for the time in a man's life where he is no longer young enough to do nothing but not yet old enough to be trusted to do anything, this has just been stretched out in the modern age. Now this all could be a loser's cope but the statistics replicated all around the world don't exactly support this excuse.
>>291563923I haven't watched it since I was around his age, and now I'm pushing 30, and I'm afraid to watch it again
>>291565258>>291563923 I'm also nearly thirty. If I don't kill myself and do some good I will consider it a victory.I need to work, on improving myself but I accepted I will never achieve "success". A stereotypical family and house owning are well beyond me.still life can be good if you take away the pressure of achieving impossible goals.
>>291565453well what are your possible goals
>>2915654871. becoming a woman2. finding Jesus
>>291559476literally me
>>291563736The only time in recent-ish history this was true was like, post-WWII America. Even in like 17th-18th century America and England most people didn't get married until at least their mid 20s.
>>291565487Right now want to work in an oil rig, still figuring out the next steps to make that happen. Besides that getting control of my desires, and being a better follower of Jesus, that is the main one.
>>291565660Oh and completing my transition. But besides that, my goals aren't too unrealistic.
>>291565681>>291565519 Have your (you) anon. But know it's a pity you, you need to level up your trolling. You obsession with trannies makes you seem like a migger.
>>291565761Not a migger or trans-obsessed, I just thought it was amusing
>>291564800The shrinking opportunity part hurts. I'm about to have my PhD viva next month but I dont even feel like its an accomplishment at this point as I still live like an impoverished teenager for the past 11 years. Less than a year till wizardry and I already feel like anything good wont happen across all facets of life.
>>291559476Dying is not that bad, "making it" is meaningless in this world where the only thing that is materialism.
They like 'em young.
>>291559572Kind of funny because the median age in Japan is like 50 yo nowadays
>>291559476that's the point. He was just making excuses
>>291559476>22>tfw im 26 alreadyfuck my life
>30 this winter>still no Misaki
>>291565848I'm 36 and I can confirm nothing good will happen. Also becoming a wizard is mostly ceremonial and most of use don't gain any powers at all, so in all likelihood you have nothing to look forward to.
Why is all discussion around this anime exceedingly cancerous 3DPD whinging and dick measuring?
>>291569224Because it's not a very deep story and more of a social commentary and an expression of a bygone era the modern anime viewer wasn't even alive to experience.
>>291565848phd is the new ged everyone has one, half the gorilla nigger retard anons you see on this website have one
>>291569884your phd sir?
>>291569884>half the gorilla nigger retard anons you see on this website have oneAnon, that's because they're lying. PhDs are still very much rare.
>>291559572You're
>>291570623*Yo'ure
>>291559476He's not wrong. 80% of the people don't grow much from what that were in high school. Only difference between me at 30 and me at 20 was that I stopped gaf about what others think and accepted my loserdom and quite content with not having a gf and barely above minimum wage job.
Over 30s bros we have to lean into it.
>>291559476It connected because you were 16 fearing to become like this
>>291559476I'm 22, just like satou now. Though I've had a job before. It was a shitty job at a restaurant for around 6 months. I should probably go back to college. I don't really know for what though.
>>291559962No drinking, smoking, or drugs, normal eating habits.
>>291559476got my first job at 28, at 38 im still a friendless shut-in loser with no skills that will never accomplish anything and needs someone else to save me
>>291570754Ironically a lot of otaku don't realize it but if they just lifted a few times week and ate decent food (avoided soda/sugary drinks). They'd probably be better off health wise than most of the population, the issue is the sedentary aspect, it's similar to your typical cubicle office drone but often longer throughout the day. If you can mitigate that, maybe stand every 30 minutes. That will be pretty good.
>>291559476If you're 22 and shut in neet loser, even with you're best efforts, you'll most likely only be a mob or a wagie cagie by 30. Which might not be the worst, but hey, that's definitely not what you thought a non loser life when you're 15. You just redefined the meaning of the term 'loser' in your head to protect your ego. >>291570754 Otakus don't have 'normal eating habits' even if they don't drink or smoke out with friends.
>>291559476>looking back, this was kind of sillyalways was.you think you're young until you're pushing 40 and realize you still have another 40 fucking years of this shit.22 is impossibly young and you have infinite life in front of you.
>>291559572And yet all of the most beloved idols and vtubers are over 30.
>>291569947in robotics. some shit about semantic SLAM systems that nobody cares about.>>291569995why would I lie? it's just a vocational cert you get after 3-6 years of working at a lab
I'm 34 and no one saved me. So don't repeat my mistake and do something with your very temporary life.
>>291570850Will we have robotic waifus this century Anon? Is it all cope?
People seem to miss that this show was about mental illness. His life isn't that bad. He got his own place. Someone sends him money. And he even got a girl knocking on his door. He literally started recovering the moment he got a traffic job.His environment could also be far more dystopian.It's a message to people in a performative society.
>>291570847>idolsMost idols I know graduate at around that age. >vtumoursSrsly?
>>291559476I was like this at 22 and I'm still like this now. The cheat code is to start NEETing really early. The earlier you start, the earlier you can go past the point of no return.
>>291559572it does if you don't already have things figured outno one's going to hire you if you haven't worked a day in your life at 30
>>291570875the technology to make robot waifus is pretty close* but that same technology also makes humans obselete so I doubt we'll get any benefit from it*so long as you don't mind shitty battery life and accept "pretty close" can still mean anything from 2 up to 50 years
>>291570930>the technology that makes women obsolete in the eyes of men also make men obsolete in the eyes of women and also makes all people obsolete in the eyes of the corporate machineC'est la vie.
>>291570913I'm seeing this in my company right now. There's a 30 yo 'intern' my company hired and its clear he wants to make it big in an year or less and had lots of hopes and dreams. And its kind of sad, seeing him losing hope day by day. When he started he was asking us how long it'll take to become as skilled as me and make as much and now he's asking me how long will it take to be as skilled as some junior girl who graduated college at 21 an year ago.
>>291570891And he's not even a fucking virgin
>>291570984I mean good on him that he started now than never but I'm not sure if he'll last that long because he simply can't learn and adopt the same rate as young guy. But at least he's not a khhv wizard like me.
>>291570984now imagine if on top of that he was also a complete loser with zero social experience who has trouble just being near people your life is over if you don't have a "normal" life by 25
>>291559476i didnt knew they made an anime based on eyeballtank's life
>>291571055Kinda this, if your over 25 and not already at least employed/degree/have a gf. It's over.
>>291571055In his case, he graduated college, decided to take over his family business, realised it's not for him after almost a decade and decided to get in a completely different sector at 30. I mean, his life isn't as bad as many people here, he's got a backup to fall back to if he's ever fired for underperformance.
All of this is pointless, your job is going to be obsolete in 20 years tops anyway and you won't be able to afford retirement. The world you're trying to show off for no longer exists.
>>291571090So what then? Just kill yourself?
>>291571090>if your over
>>291571128Soldier, dockworker, forklift operator, traffic cop. There's plenty of professions that don't require years of education and work history, assuming you live in a wealthy country. As Satou discovered.
>>291571128The point is to just ignore the scathing braggarts in here. Just do what you can for yourself and your loved ones and love yourself. Society isn't worth breaking yourself over, the rat race is a trap. Learn to be fine with just yourself.
>>291571090I have a degree and have been employed, but in this year alone I went from working as a software developer being a top 10% earner in my country to having to work at a call center at a 66% pay cut because no one is hiringit's rough out there
No sympathy for code monkey niggers. They were the ones sneering at everyone and telling them to learn to code while lounging about at their work from home jobs (which they loved to remind everyone about)
>>291571184We're not being scathing braggarts. We're just saying the best course of action is to just accept you're what you're and get rid of the comparative mindset. Don't have a gf? Cool, be okay with being a wizard and if you somehow get a woman at 35, 40 or whenever, that's cool too. Don't have a job? Cool get in to a job that don't need much experience or get in that does require but don't compare yourself with people your age who started working earlier. Once you're older, you become happier by giving less fucks, to start now than never, not by deluding zoomoids that 40 is still young and they'll be making it big with a hot young wife, a million dollars wealth and 7 figure income by that age even if their life is pretty shit now.
>>291571353What you said is a far cry from "your life is over if you don't do x by y age". No beef with your statement in particular, though, it's the correct mindset.
>>291559476If a homeless monk can be more happy than a 7 figure company owner, that tells you all you need to know. It is a mindset, you have to ask yourself.>what do I wantand if you find it impossible to be happy without getting those things then go get them
>>291570984>>291571029>>291571092that guy's living on tutorial mode lmao. how can you be "less skilled" than a 22 year old girl, no matter the field, at 30? surely being better than that is the basic pre-requisite for employment in any technical field.
>muh vtumors are like idols guys!!>40 year old mother with two kids who streams in bunnysuitfake and gay
>>291571178I plan to do one of these jobs, probably soldier for the perks and stuff, but my wealthy country is also rapidly getting worse in all departments. Now in the good old days I could easily move to at least four rapidly developing countries that all wanted and often financed men like me moving to them, these countries for the most part are also getting rapidly worse. It's one of those things where I'll probably just suck it up and still join the workforce/military either here or there but I'm not exactly raring to go.
>>291559572it's truet. 30 year old oji-san
>>291559629I'm 40 and i still have not decided who i want to be when i grow up. Maybe a superhero.
39 here. Just never been good at making money. I think it was around age 37 when i hit the wall and lost the last of my boyish looks
>>291572842GULP. I am 36 and scared now.
>>291570775What sort of job would hire a 28 year old with no history? Asking for a friend.
>>291572877call centersThey recruiters gotta meet a quota of hires and theyll take anyone.
>>291572877>>291572888I applied to a call center and they did not want me. Also, chekd.
>>291559476Gonna be hones with you, people like this don't get better, it doesn't matter if they're 22 or 30, time fucking flies and before you realize you're 31, single and neet. Not talking about me btw, someone else.
>>291559476>I'm only 22 I still have tim-
>>291572877that anon here, factory work. avoid food because its a pain in the ass gowning and disgowning and its full of brown immigrants. worked in a few automobile industry factories basically putting parts on and off cnc machines, currently working for a pharmaceutical packing factory for a company thats very laid back(a little worryingly so). basically get on a recruitment company and do zero hour contracts(these suck) and apply for whatever is in an hour - hour and a half's drive of you. employers are mostly looking for someone who will show up and work reliably with zero drama i.e no sickies or drug problems. then jump to a better paying/closer job because now you have experience. find a place you can tolerate to work in(i.e not food for some reason these companies always treat you like shit) and realise you're not getting paid to care just be open to do something if something needs getting done>>291572888>call centersall ai or indian and they won't want voicecels
>>291572330>>291572842>>29157287333 year old NEET. Hello, frens. How are you doing today?
>>291570873Hi anon!
30 is still young, everyone is dying in their 90s now, so I'm just at 1/3 of my lifespan now.
Watched a vid with 37yo guy yesterday. Said he expected much of life and tried various businesses that never succeeded and now he is a worker at a factory and he has to pay debt accumulated from his last failed business (it's like 2 years pay) No house no good car. He looked a bit disheartened.So at least you have no debt, enjoy that.
>>291573151>everyone is dying in their 90s nowyeah your body still starts failing around 40 and gets seriously old by 60 buddy. The rest is even less fun so do not get too happy.
>>291559476that was literally the point of the series, he had the power to change his life, he just preferred the easy way out
>>291573226People are not aging anymore, if you've money you can look young till your 70s
>>291570666I am 30 years old, personally I can't see myself having a gf because the single life is just much more cozy than having an annoying hag getting on my case over me enjoying anime/vidya, living with my parents and saving money is so much more easier than living alone, especially when I WFH so I can help with half the costs and the bills.I feel like anons ignore that anime like this is built already on the social agreement among the nips that not having a wife/children is automatically seen as being a failure in Japan, the thought of anyone actively enjoying the single life and their hobbies peaceful is purely seen as immaturity rather than that man understanding that he is simply enjoying his life
>>291573349Nature never intended men to tolerate women madness. No wonder so many singles now. People just beat their wives and had happy lives for a few hours.
>>291565519>>>/lgbt/
>>291573337>if you've moneylol
>>291559476
I am so isolated and lonely. I have no one except for my parents, and my best friend who lives next door. And also this cute younger girl who keeps visiting me. And of course my ex-girlfriend who I still see occasionally.
>>29157334930 year olds have retarded boomers to look after, i don't know if they have time to spare for literal childeren in addition to mental childeren. also women can smell the boomer stink on you, there is nothing less appealing to a woman than the smell of unwashed old people and a vague hint of mold.
I recently discovered that age doesn't really matter, it's just what is inside your head. If you feel like shit at any age, your life will be shit because you won't do anything to make it better.Besides that you must realize that we are on a new world now, lot of people that you assimilated as successful will soon die from the covid vaccines effects, sooner or later their lives were shortened. So you have future in this dystopic world even if you are not in your 20s anymore.
>>291573868To be fair, when everyone actually left him including his parents who stopped giving him allowances, he realized he had it good before and now actually hit rock bottom.
28yo NEET here, I've had zero social experience since high school so I still feel 17. When I go out and see adults in their 20s, I need a moment to process that I'm actually older than them
>>291574143I'm 26 and started a degree this year. The most shocking thing was that I'm not the oldest person in my classes.
>>291559476It was for the Japanese at the time.Interestingly enough being secretly a hikki or netcafe refugee seems to be prefered or seen as more dignified than literally surrendering and moving out of Tokyo for the countryside.Atleast that way you can act as a temporarily embarrassed Japanese equivalent of a yuppie.
>>291574143My mother was already married by the age I am now :(
>>29155957230 might not be old but it certainly isn't young anymore.Anyway, I'll be a wizard in 10 days so do you guys want me to do anything in particular with my magic?
>>291575375Wizardhood is 40 now.
>>291575492I can wait.What's another 10 years to 30, it's all speeding up anyway.
>>291575131my dad had 5 children by my age
>>291577031with how many women?
>>291577457just one :(
>>291574163That has to be very depressing
>>291574173I don't get this collective brainwashing how is it that so many people think they have dignity in the first place?
>>291571090Lol nah thats delusional its never too late, its over when you say to yourself that its over and lose hope.
>>291571178>mfw all these jobs need at least 3 years of education in my country
>>291559572Most Japanese people are 60.
>>291575131When my mom was my age, I started school.
>>291570984Jesus. Interning at 30 is another type of horror altogether.
>>291571347Idk why so many software devs were so retarded back then. Nowadays the job market is both competitive and the job involves doing 3x as much with AI while ignoring bottlenecks.
>>291579874They thought they were untouchable. Same reason low-skill artists were insufferable right up until AI raised the minimum floor to "must produce something better than AI can churn out with one prompt".
>>291570913I got my first job at 29, 6 figures after a few years. It's never over. Education, education, education.
>>291559572You are
>>291574096>muh covid vaccineHow can you absolute retards still believe this bullshit even nearly six years later? Jesus Christ, covid really broke some people's brains for good. The midterms can't come soon enough.
>>291574096This is a vintage 2021 cope, I'm surprised you bought it out for such an unceremonious thread.
>>291580011I get a feeling that AI is gonna break the education-job pipeline real bad.
>>291580107Imo for most office jobs you no longer need juniors or fresh grads. Just give AI to a mid-/senior-level and watch them churn out results.
>>291580135Then in 5–10 years we're gonna be asking where all the fucking seniors are.
>>291580190The current junior pipeline is already highly competitive so no, we won't be seeing a shortage any time soon.
Reminder that Ceasar weeped when he was 33 and saw a statue of Alexander the Great because of how little he had accomplished in comparison.Saying it's too late is a cope.
>>291559476That was the point. That was always the whole fucking point. You're SUPPOSE to understand that he and his neighbor constantly self-sabotage themselves and have their whole lives ahead of them.Hell, the foreword of the original LN, the author flat out says that all a hikkikomori's problems are born from their own personal cowardice.
>>291580291Who do you think you're fooling with this lol
>>291580337I'm trying to point out most people are deluded about "Muh age". You basically aren't a fully formed person until you are about 30 anyway and while the occasional insane young wonderchild exists on average that just means you stop growing at a younger age.
I'm 24 and feel so oldI have done nothing since highschoolno education, no girlfriend, just masturbate and play videogamesBy my age my parents were married, had a kid and were looking for a house
>>291580310We don't read LN's here nerd, shut the fuck up with your surface level reads, you're not versed in real life situations to voice your half literate takes in this noble assembly of geniuses and great philosophers.
>>291580291Zamn...he...he just like me fr
40 year old bros we are all going to make it. Our real lives haven't started yet.
>>291581238No one actually believes that. Everyone knows that this is their life and it just sucks.
>>291581006>admits to being a tertiary
>>291559476>poor chainsmoker catgirl with no skills that will never accomplish anything and needs someone from her family or friend group to save her all the time>twenty one (21) years old>doesn't care about it and has the time of her life with the little she has
>Misaki-Chan!>Daisuki dayohttps://x.com/Shin_Fudo/status/2108943693629489545?s=20
>>291574143Its rough being a middle aged anon with a shit life and seeing so many anons in their 20s talk about their shit life, older anons with shit lives have been through these types of comment sections so many times over the years that making a reply feels so futile
>>291580107It doesn't help the next generation is retarded. I taught students between 2017-18 and 2026. It's amazing how much more intelligent, focused, and honest the 2017-18 crop was.
>>291582170>Maaaaaan kids these days
>>291581284>
>>291559476Honestly this is something the japanese should keep in mind forever, this is relevant now and will be relevant again 100 years later
>>291570891It's because the anime is a strange mashup of the novel and manga, both of which were saying different things. Novel Sato is very much just a guy in a very deep self-inflicted depression, while the manga version clearly had severe mental issues and probably needs mental help.The anime kind of tries to do both at once.
>>291571407>muh age, muh genderYou know nothing about these people! For all you know the girl spent 36+ hours every week for the last 4 years either studying or working towards where she is, while almost strictly socializing with people in the same line of work, taking unpaid internships, driving thrue and fro in her dad's car etc. While the 30 year old was working at Mcdonalds to support his mentally unraveling mother for the last couple of years of her life.
>>291573349Similar story here around the same age. Looking back, I think I was just lucky to get my first job months after graduating college a decade ago. I was really close to becoming a NEET back then.
>>291559476I'm 26, it's over for me
>>291563736For most of human history 30+ year olds could marry teenagers with no problem and it was considered normal, yet you don't see many people saying it's natural now
>>291570891Mental illness made worse by drugs
>>291574163I just started college in my early 30s. It almost feels normal until I remember I was posting on 4chan before some of my classmates were born
>>291583522>You know nothing about these people!I know one of them is a 22 year old woman, and 22 year olds in general are useless let alone women.>spent 36+ hours every week you think that's a lot? 2 out of the past 4 weekends I worked more than that (not including the hours during the work week). during my BEng, MSc and PhD 36 hours would be the kind of workload you have on break weeks.
>>291586555Nice, are you writing something? Anything you can share on your topic of study without doxing yourself?
>>291559476It's funny: I stumbled upon Welcome to the NHK when I was in my early 20s, and I could immediately relate to Satou. I didn't have my own Misaki then.Now I'm 32, I can still relate to Satou, and I still don't have my own Misaki.I think the worst part about this painful irony is that I've genuinely stopped caring about romance. Maybe it really is all just one great big conspiracy...
>>291586882depends on what you mean by writing. at the bare minimum I need to push out a paper or two per year but writing is the least effort, doing all the grunt work to get results worth publishing is. today I spent 14 hours at work finagling an automated pipeline I made for systematically testing different data and parameter configurations for my system so that I can get enough worthwhile data and finish a paper by fridayoriginally I made the thing as part of a research contract for a private company, but got their permission to reuse it for publishable results in a different application domain. that way I get something out there I can cite in grant applications and show other prospective clients.but honestly getting to actually work on publishable stuff is rare treat, usually it's grant applications, project deliverables, working on demos in exist projects, working on tooling and equipment that needs to work for research to happen, administrative bs like procurement, tardwrangling engineers and students, going on business trips abroad to network and worm your way into project consortia, trying to pitch and sell your stuff to companies who might be interested in licensing or contracting, etcmy field is robotics broadly, specifically perception systems but I have to do many things including designing and building actual physical robots for internal lab use so that we have something that can actually demonstrate the perception and AI stuff in practical scenarios while meeting all our schizophrenic constraints
>>291587057Yeah that's a really great wall of hyperbolic text and all, but what exactly do you do lil' bro?
>>291587121shove my cock in your mother's anus every night, it says so right there in the text
>>291587164Riiiiiight bro, you're overexaggerating what it is you allegedly do/study to impress us randoms over the internet. C'mon man, that's just sad. You know what I do? Data Engineering with Python. I too, could write down a wall of technological jargon to exaggerate my brilliance- but I won't, because I'm not a preening sperg like you kek
>>291587272>Data Engineering with Pythonbut it's not, you ignored the other 99% of the job. programming in python, C++ and C is like wiping your ass, a basic office skill anyone working in research needs but it's just a tool in the toolbox.honestly it seems you're pretty insecure about your own job, whatever it is. probably a code monkey. unlike you I also need to find my own funding, be responsible for my own results to clients and project officers, mig weld my own steel frame tubes and solder my own PCBs, and write my own firmware for the microcontrollers that go on them
>>291559476This hikkikomori thing is very specific to how Japanese society operates on the hyper competitive basis and also Japan is forced to motivate their neets to do something because of how limited their work force is.So it fits them.It won't fit (you). Your boss will get a pajeet instead.
>>291559476>28 years old>couldn't finish college due to crippling depression and anxiety>been delivering pizzas and volunteering at animal shelters for the past decade>finally try to go back to college this past year, currently enrolled, not sure what I'm even attempting to accomplish>mom died suddenly in a freak car accident>her family was filthy rich>I'm suddenly now a 28 year old millionaire with no friends and only baseline life experience, having done nothing to earn my moneyI don't even know where I go from here, man.
>>291587348> programming in python, C++ and C is like wiping your assHoly shit, you could not pay me to post something that insanely ignorant. That's crazy man, thank God delusional people like you are usually filtered out of my career field and outright mocked.You should post on /g/ sometime, your brand of pretentiousness would fit in perfectly with the legions of other vapid nocoders and their "''startups"''. :'^)
>>291571407>how can you be "less skilled" than a 22 year old girl, no matter the field, at 30?I'm 34 and the only job I've ever had was a retail job I've had for the past 12 years. Which I lost at the end of last year. How do I apply that experience towards other jobs, much less towards jobs in the field I want to go in, which is currently assfucked by AI and you generally need highly specialized skills to make it otherwise? I'm competing with people who have natural talent who are 15 years younger than me and I feel already dead.
I remember when I was young and a complete and total shut in. My family urged me outside to get a job and I did for the next 20 ears. I would very much like to go back to being a complete shut in.
>>291559476>A passing by random bitch laughs at him.>He didn't like that, so now he becomes a shut in.This is one of the most stupidest reasons I could imagine to fuck up your own life.
>>291587402>> >I'm suddenly now a 28 year old millionaire with no friends and only baseline life experience, having done nothing to earn my moneyI want you to take a deep breath, and get your head out of your own assYou've been financially blessed, and if you invest that money properly it's entirely likely you will never have to work a day in your fucking life ever again With the money you have right now and the passive income you could acquire in the future, you can go wherever the fuck you want if you don't fuck it up
Fellas, what's the point to a journey whose only destination is death, and where all accomplishments and proof of existence will eventually fade away to nothingness?
>>291587481I checked your previous post, you were actually bragging about being a "data engineer in Python". thought you were accusing me. must be an intolerably dull existence. enjoy having to report to a manager I gurss.>startups>buzzwords>jargon>exaggeratingI though it was pretty obvious but I guess not. I am a researcher. I work at a robotics lab at a large public pure research institution. I fund myself and a modest team, through grants and contracts I acquire myself. All this shit you can't seem to wrap your head around is simply an accurate description of the job.
>>291587673Where you are, death is not. Where death is, you are not. You will not be conscious at the moment of your own death. Life is what you are experiencing here and now in real-time, and life is yours to decide what to do with.
>>291587741>You will not be conscious at the moment of your own death.This is not the reassurance you probably thought it was. It just makes me think everything is more pointless than ever.
>>291587735Why the projection? If I were the one bragging, where's my wall of text meticulously overstating my responsibilities, work flow, and working hours on 4ch*n of all websites? Regardless of whatever you are, it's incredibly clear you are an obnoxious narcissist, and I sincerely pity anyone that has to suffer through getting to know you. Stay in R&D plz
Im turing 31 soon
>>291587776Well, if you believe life is possibly pointless, then that will poison your perception of the world and life itself regardless of what anyone has to say. It's not the events in life that directly harm us, but our emotional judgement of those events, perception is reality, etc etc.Just know that I wish you all the very best despite my misguided attempts to gently correct you, anonGod bless
>>291587953>Sorry anon, I've got nothing, so I'm out. You're on your ownThanks for nothing I guess.
>>291587984shut up and kill yourself already you whiny bitch :3
>>291587628I know I should be grateful and stop being such a bitch, but I'm so fucking lonely. My mom was one of the few people in existence who loved me. Beyond that I just have my siblings and my aunt who I drag down by being a developmentally stunted sad excuse for a man and no amount of wealth can change that. I'm afraid to even meet new people because I know I'll just end up being a burden to them. I have nothing I even want to do with my money, no career aspirations or anything. No purpose.
>>291588015Why don't YOU kill yourself? I don't want to not be conscious. Fucking worthless scum accepting oblivion.
>>291588015>>291588059RIP RJ Mitte.
Seek God, stop eating goyslop and stop gooning you defeatist doomer faggots
>>291588148my prostate is enlarged
>>291587348Nigga plsComparing python to C++ is like comparing driving an automatic car to a 30 year old tower crane with the instruction manual written in cyrillic
>>291588148>Stop doing things you like, submit to a higher power!Slave mentality
what a tedious fucking slapfight. i wanted to talk about anime not wade through posts by people with overinflated egos
Hahaha oh fuck you guys are so fucking sad using an anime board to vent about your shitty lives, I bet this isn't the first time either because I've been seeing the same NEET/incel-tier trite for years.
>>291588043Well, look on the very important brightside: despite your current predicament, you cannot relate to the money issues and wage-slavery that the average person is cursed to struggle through and make sense of on their own.For what it's worth: I'd trade places with you in a heartbeat.
>>291588287Yes and?
>>291588181One programming language is not ultimately that different from another. The real difficulty of any problem you're trying to solve is usually in the algorithms and data structures and not in the programming languages.
>>291588043Just NEET and >>291570199
yamazaki realizing his dream is dying and giving up is the part that hits harder than any part of satou's story now that i'm older and went through the same shit. i didn't have guaranteed lifetime employment and a farm grill wife waiting for me though.
>>291589267This will happen more often than not. People take the easy way out
>>291559476>22But that's how old I am.
>>291589493How do you even find this place. Discord memes? TikTok comments?
>>291589741Cultural osmosis.
>>291588043You have the space to find something you're passionate about, and I think your mom would want you to discover it and share it with others. So, start stumbling around the world like the rest of us. I think you'll find yourself more capable than expected.
>>291559962closed environments are protective in a very special way. time and space are weird like that.https://mindsightproject.wordpress.com/unevenness-of-time-and-space/
>>291587402>>291588043Working, volunteering, and going to college means you're trying. You are not dragging anybody down. Do what makes YOU happy. It's what your mother would have wanted.>I'm afraid to even meet new people because I know I'll just end up being a burden to them.The most important thing you need to remember is to never let ANYONE know you have money. Financial freedom is yours if you invest it wisely for passive income like another anon said. You should also not feel guilty about doing what's best for yourself. Be wary of those who may be after your money, or if you feel that the money itself becomes a burden, you can choose to donate some amount.
>>291590762You cant do what makes you happy and do whatever you think is best for yourself thats just absurd there is just a huge lapse in understanding here.
>>291572877Army. Ten hut.
>>291578661I think it's less depressing than staying a NEET, although it comes from different vectors.
>>291590813You can't maintain personal happiness without first prioritizing yourself. I might be failing to see the misunderstanding there. Anon sounded like he was depressed and guilty so since he is still going through his mother's death, he should be taking care of his mental health.
>>291573038yeah this, you can actually make better money at these places and work in marginally less shitty conditions than most other blue collar jobs. I'd recommend OEM companies in particular. I even saw people with no degree climb from manual assembly to machine operator to automation engineer.granted it will still suck but it sucked the least of the many shitty low bar of entry jobs I've done.
>>291587402>been delivering pizzas and volunteering at animal shelters for the past decade>finally try to go back to college this past yearYou're already doing better than me who 6 years your youth.>I'm suddenly now a 28 year old millionaireThen what the fuck are you doing here? Start networking, become a philanthropist, make investments. Money is a great social lubricant in of itself. Use it.
>>291587402whatever you do, don't mention money to anybody you know irl
>>291590931Maybe, who knows?
>>291571407Pretty easily. Japan had a crisis a few years back where women consistently outcompeted men in academic exams to the point where they went out of their way to grade women lower so men wouldn't be left behind. Apparently it's not the first time and several universities in the US and Europe do the same thing.
>>291592355They changed how they graded things so women began to get better results in the first place.
>>291592512sounds like what happened in the uk decades ago when they introduced course work instead of purely just exam results and as a result girl's scores jumped up but boy's flagged behind
>>291587402Hi Bruce Wayne. How's that development on a first bat suit going?
>>291592542They had sex in the manga?
>>291592900the anime doesn't even show drugs
>>291559629>time slows down for no one.Actually time slows down for anyone with mass.But it's alright. For, as I can see, you lack an intellect as remarkable as my own, so I don't expect you to know or understand all of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity.
>>291592900The manga and LN are very different from the anime.
>>291559476I know this is a sneaky r9k thread. But it's not true. I know a retarded guy who got his first job at 34 and found a girlfriend who's just as retarded (slightly pretty) for him. You just need to get out of the house. Depending on your level of autism, you might even score some normie chicks.
>>291593188Maybe. But it's difficult. The whole "conspiracy" thing in nhk is real. I remember one time, after embarrassing myself in real life, then immediately after that on a phone call, I got out of my car to go to the bathroom at a home depot and genuinely thought everyone was looking at me and conspiring against me. That walk to the bathroom was horrible. It was like everyone knew what had happened to me and they were all looking at me and talking about me to each other. It's more or less like that every time I go in public. If I'd done something shameful recently, everyone knew, and if I hadn't, everyone knew my past was littered with moments like that.
>>291559572>most japanese people think you're an elderly old fart by 30Its not that.Life is so shit for Japanese men after 30 that they consider life is over at that point.Its happening to America now.
>>291563736Not really. In Ancient Sparta you only became a real citizen at 30. In Athens, you became a citizen at 18, but you couldn't hold any political positions until you reached 30. In parts of the medieval Holy Roman Empire, you couldn't sign contracts or serve as a legal witness until you were 21. And so on. The "you're a full adult at 18, can do everything, and have to move away and have a whole-ass career" concept is very new for most part, just like the idea that having six or seven children is normal. If you look at the medieval Europe, the average number of kids surviving to adulthood was two, often falling to one for the urban populations thanks to the poor general health in cities. It wasn't until the advent of the early modern era that this changed.
I feel like most people don't realize what's coming. You're fretting about succeeding in a world that's on its way out.
>>291593506Two more weeks.
I am a NEET at 33. Any NEET anons at this age here?
>>291593188Well how tall was he
>>291593096Einstein was not a handsome fellowNobody ever called him AlHe had a long mustache to pull on, it was yellowI don't believe he ever had a girl
>>291570984>When he started he was asking us how long it'll take to become as skilled as me and make as muchI mean, how long did it take you to become as skilled as you are now? How long did it take (YOU) to make as much as you currently make?Have you been working for this company your entire career? Probably not I’m assuming. Tell that nigga to temper his expectations but to also not give up. I’m sure he can get to the same skill level as that new girl and level up beyond that given time. He did manage to get that internship after all.
>>291593733Nigga is 5'3. Getting girls is that easy, and in this case, she went after him. She came on to me first, but I thought she was way too autistic.
>>291573349It really do be like that. While colleagues struggle with debts in shitty apartments that eat up 40% of their income I am moneymaxxing in a rich Boomer neighborhood. Everyone but me is retarded because they fall for the Jewish career tricks. I barely work and have 100k shekels in the bank at 32.
>>291593321That's just anxiety. You really need better friends or better influences around you. I know this because I still have these episodes, but I know how to control myself, or at least I think I do.
>>291570984skill issue, just get hired at mid-level for your first job
>do nothing>get a misaki>work hard and try to succeed>no misakiwhat's even the point?
>>291559476The problem is nerds striving for normie pleasures without understanding themselves. Look at how much normie couples suffer just to uphold a standard they themselves can barely maintain.
tfw when I walk the street with teenagers and they are taller than me, more social than me, and more handsome than me.t. 30 years old
>>291594196why are you socializing with teenagers, think before you reply, depending on your answer i might call the cops.
>>291594302I'm not, we're just using the same street.
>>291593506What's coming? The sun exploding?
>>291559476When I was 22 I just started working as a low-level IT person at a local school. It was stable, easy, boring and paid okay-ish.I could've worked there forever, but when I was 29 I decided to go do something entirely different. Now I work a high skill high paying job at the ripe age of 33.It literally is never too late unless you yourself decide it's too late.
>>291594434I am from a poor country where 30+ year Olds with no history of employment can suddenly get into a new career. Too much young blood graduating each year and too few jobs.
>>291594407I assume he's referring to AI.
>be born a sperg that isn't either a genius savant or rich>literally fucked for life because you will never get past the HR lady interview vibecheck>won't even be able to get an internship during college because those require interviews tooSometimes being genuinely retarded is easier because then you'd be able to spend 60 years stacking shelves without killing yourself
mandated government gfs will fix (You) all. just wait
>>291594584We'd be better off waiting for robot wives to become a thing. Most girls aren't worth marrying.
>>291559476No it was mentioned in the show that he had time.I had a career at that age though. Then covid happened.Now I'm like this. Some things just won't be solved without revolution or extermination.And you're not gonna do revolution.So the next method happens.Nice knowing yall.
>>291559572I thought I was old at 23. 30 you're fucking cooked already.People shouldn't work past 30 and should be euthanized.
>>291594584>have children or go to jailWow, great success.Also >die at 30 so your debts are maxxed for increased ponzi success. Abe finds a way.>people over 70 are allowed to live though for security reasons
>>291594522Well, the business I got into was air traffic control. Yeah, I'm lucky enough to have the correct autism for the job, but it's a good path for many underperforming intellects that go on this website, regardless of country poverty.
i'm 32 and keep getting laid off from engineering jobs and switching industries. feels like I made a mistake studying this shit that I barely tolerate. 3 years of experience, and I'm on my 3rd entry level role. All my coworkers are in their early to mid 20s.
>>291559476People under 30 saying their life is over are basing it around the fact they know there is 0% chance they are going to have a "perfect life". People over 30 saying it mean more like there is 0% chance they will have a mediocre normal life. For most people between 25 and 30 your standards and expectations of yourself will lower in conjunction with you actually improving a lot to be fair.
>>291581238Meanwhile, Tonegawa is eating Hyodo's crusty ass every day and constantly sweating bullets at the mere thought of upsetting him for swift punishments, all so he can earn money and rank which he will never use anyway in his ridiculously busy and cucked schedule.Truly a role model for young men in an aging world.
>>291559476It's normal to feel this way at 22
>>291595085>air traffic controlDoesn't it have pretty strict age restrictions
>>291594539I didn't learn until too late that connections and social skills matter much more than smarts and qualifications. Terrible world to inhabit for us
>>291595975Kyahahaha this is so fucking retarded>if>thenThats not what love is lmao
>>291594584>a government mandated slave will fix youYeah, as if people don’t already have enough resentment in relationships they chose WILLINGLY.
>>291559476Funnily enough, I ended up sorta like his buddy Yamazaki.Graduated, ended up aimless and jobless until 33 when a family friend offered their daughter's hand in marriage who's 9 years younger.Pops got me started working on his farm and I'm now 36 with 2 kids. We're all gonna make it eventually bros.
>>291596256What is love
>>291596896
Sure is hard to live in a society.
>>291587673There is none. It's all vanity. Just pray the next life will be better, I guess.>>291594584Not gonna happen. You know what will happen? Culling of the useless eaters.
>>291596858What if I'm not Bosnian
>>291587673The point of the journey is the journey itself.Regardless, death will inevitably come for us all. Make peace with it.
>>291596896Love is not conditional, conditional love is called prostitution
Do girls like Misaki have thunder thighs at that age?
>>291587870Damn unc, why are you still here? I'm 35 at a crappy gas station job. It's so freaking over.
>>291559476>laugh at him then>I was him 6 years ago>I am worse than him nowHe didn't even have any debt either
>>291581238This speech only works in Japan where they have grown accustomed since centuries back to make their little "mental inner garden" bullshit whenever they need some mental stability while living in shitty conditions (which considering Sengoku period, Meiji era, WW2, 90's bubble economy crash, etc, shitty living has become the standard for them)
Any other hopeless romantics over 30 here that still think they're gonna find someone soon? I'm straight delusional.
>>291596896BABY DON'T HURT ME
>>291587057God, man. You're giving me grad school PTSD flashbacks. So glad I ditched research for teaching. Now, I get to build curricula instead of new methods, have a shit ton more time off, and only make like 10% less than the bleeding edgers that have no life. Now, just doing a little research side project that's worth presenting at a conference every couple years gets an extra dick sucking.
>>291594539before all the woke shit, businesses already passed away by forcing an extrovert only culture that filters out anyone who isn't part of the friend group hierarchy. it used to be more important to just get your job down even if you were a socially awkward tard.
>>291559476>>291559629If you don't have your own home, a wife, and children by the age of 22, you've already failed in life
>>291587556humiliation takes its toll, ive never watched this show so I'm not sure if it was just 1 thing that pushed him over the edge
>>291601259I'm a hopeless romantic who settled for a comfortably mediocre marriage because I know I won't find anything better
>>291607580>Comfortably mediocre Sounds like a win to me.
>>291593321That's just reality, I completely shut down because I cant cope with the mind rea- fuckery
>>291607541His paranoia and anxiety was made a lot worse by the drugs he used
>>291607541Watch it now.
>>291592900That rape doujin is wonderful.
>>291601259I used to but my hope has really gotten crushed particularly bad in the past year or two, I had a phase when I was 32-33 where I got frantic thinking about wife+kids but it kind of passed, I imagine it was similar mental state to 30+ women who know times almost up and shit out an autism child
>>291601259I haven't showered in like 3 weeks
>>291608217When's the last time you had a gf of any kind?>>291608536That's kinda based.
>>291608596the neet is prolly soaking in bath with champaign and cocaine
>>291559585Same here, anon. I guess we're just about ready to become "The Ultimate NEET".
>>291608217>I had a phase when I was 32-33 where I got frantic thinking about wife+kidsI'm in that phase right now and it sucks
>>29160125938 years old here. Nope, once I hit 35 I realized it was 100% over.
>>291559476>my life is over I'm a shut-in loser with little to no skills that will never accomplish anything and needs someone else to save him>twenty seven (27) years old>It's me
>>291601259>>291608217>>291609235I wanna same I'm built the same right now, I'm not exactly in any position to be anything to do anything drastic. But at the same time I haven't given up hope to do something with my life, and maybe find someone. Will I ever have a kid? I'm not sure, I doubt it, but I've accepted I probably would've been a shitty dad anywayIs this cope? Maybe. I want to believe there's more to it though
>>291609436You won't know until you have a kid and that's the scary part
>>291601259The type of media I watch and read probably isn't helping, only truly romantic stuff lately.
>>291609460Who knows?I like to think I'm a decent uncle if nothing else
Is this the new zoomer cope that they still have time and aren't constantly getting older? A 22 year old still has chances to change the trajectory of their lives, but using Satou as an example, the pattern of behaviors established will rapidly close off those avenues as you whittle away the little time you have. Remember, the core message of NHK isn't "work and you'll be happy", it's "your safety net won't last forever and you'll eventually have to get off your ass if you want to survive".
>>291573868>parents only support him out of familial obligation and and rapidly growing tired of his worthless ass>friend is too good for you and has his own life to deal with>mentally-ill younger girl is using you as an emotional crutch to inflate her own self-esteem>"ex-girlfriend" is your highschool crush that threw you a pity fuck back in the day, heavily medicated now, and only shows back up to use you as an emotional tampon for her SSRI induced maniaGenuinely, Satou would have been better off without any of them aside from Yamazaki interacting with him, and even then he mostly just uses Yamazaki as a gateway to escapist fantasies like becoming a game developer.
>>291609517Looking back at 22 for myself I was in college taking classesthey didn't help me a fucking bit
>>291601259Nope. 35 next month, but even from my late teens I could never actually picture myself in a relationship, let alone as a father. I have a job I actually enjoy right now and am content with just enjoying my hobbies alone.
>>291609436>Will I ever have a kid? I'm not sure, I doubt it, but I've accepted I probably would've been a shitty dad anywaykek this, I fully understand the phrase "deadbeat dad" nowadays as that's who I am minus the dad part.I suppose I should be thankful that I didn't end up ruining myself further by having a kid and ruining them too
>>291570984Same thing kinda happened to me unfortunately. I was also a big incel loser social anxiety on top of it. Office was 90% women. There was only one other dude there. Girls just dont like me in general. I could feel daggers staring at me, i could tell they didnt want me there. They had the guy train me. I guess the girls were all grossed out by me, i got that feeling. One day the dude didnt show up and they just had me sit in a corner cuz none of the girls wanted to train me. I just left during lunch and never came back
>>291609517It's not new. It's the same cope we had at that age.
>>291593419It's the natural cycle of civilizations. A country gets developed fast, enjoys a period of golden age, stagnates and slowly corrects back to more normal levels. Japan has just been about 10 years ahead. What's happening there right now will happen everywhere in the developed world in the very near future as the large generations from the cold war begin to retire and invert the population pyramid.The difference in the moment is that Japan seems to have already recognized what's coming and focuses on maintaing stability rather than growth unlike the rest of the world which still operate through the endless growth at any cost view.
>>291570666It's literally the only good thing about being 30, you only wish you knew in your youth how elders and women opinion mean shit Hell, I can't blame kids for choosing waifus over real women anymore
>>291609517>"your safety net won't last forever and you'll eventually have to get off your ass if you want to survive"
>>291559572It's true for most of the world because if you haven't done anything after university, you're basically fucked. Here in America at least you have entrepreneurship to save you past college/uni years or alternative pathways like the trades.
>>291587402>mom holding out on you, your dad and any siblings your whole life for 28 long years>allowing you to work menial jobs just to make ends meet instead of using the cash a springboard for your futureFunny LARP mate. Your mother either secretly hated you and your entire immediate family or this is just some faggot on the internet with another greentext story
Anyone else lit rn
