>potential
I don't care what an egg might have grown up into when you serve it to me for breakfast.
What I get is the egg, not its supposed potential.

And if you can't cook eggs, then stop excusing yourself with the low limit of chicken biology.

>>291594948
Gundumb is the worst thing in your image by far.

>>291594948
>Time Travel

It's fucking STUPID unless it's done right


You need to adjust for the planet 's FUCKING PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE OR YOU'RE ENDING UP AS A LOST DUST IN SPACE!!

Stein's;Gate only works because he's SENDING RADIO WAVES which might be taking hundreds of years to connect to him.

FUCK! None of you are prepared for the fact that we might have had thousands, if not millions, of time travels across out own timeline; BUT THEY'RE CORPSES FLOATING IN SPACE BECAUSE NO ONE FUCKING THINKS ABOUT THE EARTH'S PLACE WHEN JUMPING!!

>>291595159
i reckon if one could time travel one could predict their future location. moreover, why are we pretending newton's second law stopped working? An object in otion will stay in motion, the action of time travel, travel in the fourth dimension doesn't need to set the speed through spatial dimensions to 0, in fact for relativity, u would need infinite speed. also 0 relative to what? being at 0 velocity relative to earth means that when u travel in time the earth will still be providing a normal force that keeps u in place.

>>291595228
You're not accounting for gravitational space altering the flow of time from black holes.

>>291594948
Time travel is retarded by its very nature

The opposite actually. Time travel is overdone. I roll my eyes any time I see it anymore. Cyberpunk hasn't been interesting since the 80s. Everything is basically the same. Mecha is pretty general and there's a lot more variety in it than in the other two.

>>291594948
Time travel is retarded by nature.
>HURR DURR I GET UNLIMITED TRIES TO FIX MY SHIT
Easily the worst trope in storytelling.

>>291595159
>You need to adjust for the planet 's FUCKING PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE
The universe does not have a unified coordinate system.
Saying that something is "moving" is only true if you have already chosen a frame work to anchor your coordinate system in. (there are some asterisks to this, but let's keep it simple for now)
Usually, we use Earth for the purpose, simply because we already use it to anchor our movements. Every step we take, is in direct interaction with the ground. Same for cars with their wheels.

But if that frame work no longer holds for time travel - and I don't think that's self evident - then you would have to explain, with proper reasoning, what frame work does. Otherwise, you may just as easily argue that Earth is going at thousands of miles per hour in one direction, as another may claim that it is going by tens of thousands of miles per hour in another.
Or, in other words, without a framework, you've got nothing of value to say regarding a body's motion through space.

Time Travel is 3rd. The stories are never as fulfilling as mecha or cyberpunk

>>291594948
This is a really retarded way of compartmentalizing this sort of stuff

>>291595228
if you're orbiting the sun clockwise and go back in time, from your frame of reference the earth has started orbiting counter-clockwise while you retain all your clockwise momentum and get flung off into deep space

>>291594948
What is even this classification? A story can be time travel, cyberpunk and mecha all at the same time.

>>291594948
ALL garbage, good job

>>291595631
Not only are you getting flung into deep space, you are also in a different location from where the Earth was/will-be with.

Also, if you have achieved time travel; it is likely that you have gone faster than light. That would insinuate mass that inverts back into light into negative space. Potentially being trapped in a light/dark plane where only things with mass would act as air pockets where otherwise being trapped in the Mud of Space.

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>>291595334
>>291595490
>>291595555
Unironically filtered.

>>291595593
>mecha
>muh giant robot
>fulfilling

Anime in general is not very good at creating good science fiction. You'd even be better of watching Hollywood shit most of the time.

>>291594948
Just judging by the anime in your image it's actually Cyberpunk > Mecha > Time Travel.

>>291594948
>Time Travel
Dogshit
>Cyberpunk
Dogshjt
>Mecha
Kino, medium defining.

https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/cyberpunk%20mecha%20time%20travel/type/op/

Bot thread
Every OP image with this three part lineup format is made by a bot

>>291596627
You don't pick time travel or mecha if you want good science fiction.
These themes are science fantasy, and you should already know that.

>>291594948
You keep making this shit thread either to farm (You)s or to try in futility to convince other people of your shit opinion without success. Time Travel is crap in 99% of the shit its implemented in.

>>291594948
Steins;Gate looks like shit when you put it beside actual classics

>>291595093
Mecha is kino, you are just jaded to the point of stupidity or a Zoomer.

>>291596994
Tell me ONE good mecha show that has come out recently, say 2020 or later. It's a dead fucking genre.

>>291594948
Strange how one of those inspired several generations of Japanese writers and the other two inspired...ehm...what exactly?

>>291596955
It's the weakest of the three not least because of the genre it's in. That's why I don't get OP's point, who cares about potential when it never gets fulfilled?

>>291596321
It's crazy how ignorant people are that they easily dismiss a whole genre out of hand.

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>>291597518
>That's why I don't get OP's point
OP is a spammer, the only point is shitposting
You should be able to tell based on the format of the image alone

>>291594948
In terms of raw storytelling potential, A literal turd > Soi-Fi

>>291594948
It's actually the opposite but okay.

>>291597692
holy schizo

>>291597487
The Japanese straight up use the term "world line" when talking about time travel. You just dismiss the impact and influence because you're ignorant.

>>291597798
>S;G invented general relativity
Never reply to me again, dimwit

>>291597732
Fantasyfags are delusional

>>291594948
But what if you combine all three? Are there any series like that?

>>291597940
I don't think cyberpunk meshes well with time travel.

>>291594948
>slop
>excellent
>just okay
Not so sure about that ranking OP.

>>291597940
Gargantia?

>>291594948
time travel has NEVER been good

>>291595334
You don't get it.

>>291594948
This isn't a fair comparison because time travel is a TYPE of story, while cyberpunk and mecha are both settings. You could have time traveling cyberpunk mechas, none of those are mutually exclusive and the latter two are just environments where a story can take place. For example take something like Code Geass, it's a Mecha but like it or not it goes in wildly different directions than many other mecha stories. Therefore, really both cyberpunk and mecha have more potential due to being able to put any type of story on top of them, whereas time travel is restricted to one story type but any setting. And between mecha and cyberpunk, mecha probably has more potential because it's less defined and you could vary the setting more while cyberpunk is a more narrowly defined setting

>>291594948
You can have all three.

>>291594948
I disliked Steins;Gate quite a bit and I really question how much potential that kind of story can have when time travel is an inherently consequence removing type of story.

>>291594948
wrong

>>291595159
>>291595583
please both of you stfu and go study general relativity

>>291594948
What I left in the toilet last night > Mecha
Yes.

>>291598519
Same. All of the character development in that show gets erased over and over and I'm supposed to still care by the end of it?

>>291594948
>Ghost in the Shell is the only good thing in OP
>Cyberpunk is the best genre of the three
Coincidence?

>>291600494
It annoys me that people confuse cyber punk with an aesthetic like steam punk, though.

Anything is better than muh giant robot.

>>291595093
No, steins;gate is.

>>291597940
>Are there any series like that?
Seems like the answer is no but maybe you could find a series with them as fringe or one off episode gimmicks that don't overlap.
Although if you drop cyberpunk I feel like some degree of time fuckery comes up in a lot of mecha.

>>291596321
>zero arguments
>f-filtered!1!!!!1
You're stuck in a loop consooming garbage. Grow up.

It's funny because I think all three of those are pretty tired as story telling tropes.
Time travel can be good but it is rare that it is, cyberpunk usually recycles the same things over and over, most mecha show I have seen have been bad or the mecha part actually limited them

>>291598367
>cyberpunk and mecha are both settings
Cyberpunk is a genre which is defined by the rejection of earlier eras of sci-fi and by attempt to use sci-fi as contemporary social commentary rather than falsely "defining the future." William Gibson's short story "The Gernsback Continuum" serves as a sort of manifesto in that regard, which makes it all the more amusing that Neuromancer has had such an immense influence on culture and perceptions of emerging technologies. Classic cyberpunk literature spans a vast array of settings from modern day to so post-apocalyptic that there's just psychic mutants with primitive tech and not enough civilization for corporations to exist.

>>291594948
Time travel is shit.

>>291594948
Time travel > mecha > cyberpunk

>>291594948
>In terms of raw storytelling potential, Time Travel > Cyberpunk > Mecha
This kind of mentality is anti-art

>>291594948
Steins Gate is garbage.

>>291603592
Yeah I don't know if there's any better time travel stories out there but based on S;G the genre is pretty underwhelming.

>>291594948
>mecha last
Faggot.

>>291603824
Despite being westshit Primer is far better.

>>291594948
reddit gate is shit

For me, it's Cyberpunk.

>>291604835
Same, it's just the most interesting.

>>291603824
Even just from anime Higurashi was a lot more enjoyable for me. There are probably others.

>>291594948
LotGH > all of those

>>291606096
Lord of the Ghetto sucks.

>>291606130
lol

>>291594948
>2 indisputable classics of anime, Ghost in the Shell and Gundam
>and then Reddit;Gate
Tells you everything you need to know.

>>291606226
SG is the best anime in the list though

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>>291601969
I was thinking maybe the Getter Robo manga as a whole fits the bill since the series was primarily a mecha story that gets progressively more sophisticated, and does feature bona-fide time travel, but whether or not it also counts as Cyberpunk depends on if you consider the presence of cyborgs and human social decay as enough, or if it must also have the genre's aesthetics and focus on the dystopian society aspects to qualify. Then there's Blame! Which is obviously a genre defining Cyberpunk story, but also featured some instances of time travel (of the time dilation kind) as part of the world but wasn't really central to the story, and in its case the iffy genre would be mecha, because although there's tons of them and are vital to the setting, none are main characters, as said characters are better described as cyborgs who don't really rely on mechas for survival or fighting.

>>291606336
No it's not, only redditfags who started watching in 2010 think this.

>>291606336
Steins;Gate doesn't even compare to the others. GitS is a series with genuine depth and an all time great, and Gundam for its part has more to it than one would first think. Steins;Gate at its best is just the most shallow of thrillers possible, complete surface level in every way.

>>291606989
Nobody cares about your supposed depth, this sounds extremely pretentious.

>>291594948
Is there like a whole genre of time-travel anime i'm not aware of?

>>291607030
Or maybe you just value trite time travel thrills like what you find from SG over anything with actual themes in it.

>>291594948
None of these are relevant to the storytelling potential. Case in point, mecha can either be an involved space opera with multiple characters living out their daily lives and overcoming harsh difficulties to mature, or it can be a 52-episode tournament arc. Gundam has had both.

The relevant parts of a story aren't related to what sort of paint gets applied to the outside.

>>291607327
No, nor there should be one bec "time travel" isn't a genre or a setting, it's a plot device. It's not even proper science fiction most of the time. That's why you can have a romance story with time travel, war stories with time travel, comedies with time travel etc. You wouldn't say groundhog day is scifi, would you? While we're on the subject, mecha isn't a genre either, unless you narrowly define "Mecha" as just android shaped robots that may or may not fight and may or may not be gigantic.

>>291607524
you must be one of those people who get angry about native isekai

>>291597133
Bang Brave Bang Bravern
Patlabor EZY
Checkmate atheists.

>>291597133
Dandivine is currently airing

>>291594948
More like time travel has the most wasted potential.

>>291607579
shut the fuck up

>>291607579
I used to and it's still a term mostly used to shitpost, but I've come to realize it's a useful shorthand descriptor in some cases. It's by no means the same discussion as this though, saying something is or has Mecha/time travel tells me absolutely nothing about the kind of story I'm getting by itself, as opposed to something being "fantasy" or yes, "native Isekai".

>>291607698
It blows my mind how S;G is supposedly the best time travel anime and it's just the same basic bitch time loop again. Boring.

>>291594948
>Time Travel
SLOP for low IQ goyim

>>291607914
>>291607922
More like you are the ones with low IQ. You really just ignored all of the time travel mechanics and lore in SG?

>>291607914
Gunbuster is best time travel anime. They mostly travel forward though.

>>291607914
Summertime Rendering did time travel a lot better imo

>>291594948
>time travel
merely prevents shit from happening
once succeeds, anime ends
>gundam
is merely a weapon
story is just a political conflicts, until one side is defeated and then the anime ends
>cyperbunk
many stories can happen based on the worldbuilding

>>291594948
this is a very arbitrary ranking especially when you can have a cyberpunk time travel mecha

>>291594948
I don't think it's a coincidence that steins gate is clearly the worst of the three. Time travel is complete bunk

>>291608581
Unironically SG just isn't very good, at least at the time travel part. Punching some dude to end WW3 is something I would expect out of a story that doesn't take itself seriously, not from an anime like SG that clearly wants to be respected.

>>291594948
time travel does not have story telling potential it is always trash

>>291608798
When people say this I always wonder how many time travel stories they've watched or if they're just talking out their ass based on vibes. Did you even watch Steins;Gate, or Erased, or any others?

>>291608987
>preventing shit from happening
that's it, no?

>>291609002
If you want the most braindead reading of those stories possible sure.

>>291607954
>You really just ignored all of the time travel mechanics and lore in SG?
if by ignore you mean didn't read that trash in the first place then yes

>>291609079
oh yeah, you can make time travel more "complex" by introducing multiverse, the so-called timeline of the possible futures
might as well write marvel multiverse at that point

>>291609407
>Comparing S;G's worldlines to fucking Marvel
You are gay and retarded.

>>291609528
you are, for liking marvel-tier trash like S;G

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>>291609614
>Throws a tantrum because he gets completely befuddled by time travel lore
Nice job embarrassing yourself.

>>291594948
I like all three.

>>291609614
Pants shitting seethe like usual on the clock

>>291594948
99% of time travel stories fall apart but yeah the """POTENTIAL""" is there I guess

>>291609758
Primer mogs all

>>291610720
You haven't watched Dark yet I see

>>291596994
Gundam isn't even the best mecha series

>all these people shitting on time travel
Read more, people. You can start with the Hyperion Cantos.

Ever17 and remember11 has a better setting than S;G and GitS is mecha too

>>291611465
S;G being THE time travel anime probably colors people's perception of the genre. Personally I thought S;G wasn't that great

>>291611727
>>291612052
That's just your contrarianism talking now.

>>291594948
Why can't zoomers into mecha?

>>291594948
Anime time travel sci-fi just isn't that good. Western time travel stuff completely outclasses S;G and Rezero.

>>291594948
Mecha limit your story the least, you can write whatever you please, have mechs in it and it's a mecha series.
Time travel is a plot device and cyberpunk is a very vague setting.
In terms of limiting your story, time travel is the worst because it essentially dictate the whole plot for you, then there is cyberpunk because it require certain level of technology in the setting, then you have mecha because unlike cyberpunk you can set your mecha show at any technological level because even medieval peasants using wood, iron and rope to power to siege beasts would be a mecha.
So you actually have it the wrong way around Mecha > Cyberpunk > Time Travel.

>>291612185
I never said S;G is bad.
I just said Infinity series setting was better (which Stein Gates people worked there too)

>>291612248
Honestly, they're not as bad as millennials when it comes to robot anime.

>>291594948
S;g is kind of a stupid story, I'm not sure whether that generalizes to time travel or not

>>291607630
you just made these words up