rudeus buys a child and frees her from slavery and he's treated as the worst person in anime history, literally the jeffrey epstein of animemeanwhile, maomao debt-traps peasant girls and sells them into a life of sexual slavery and she's gets NO backlash at allmake it make sense
dumb redditor
>be OP (a faggot)>make a thread to argue against a strawman>still unable to make a real argument and resort to whataboutery
>>291698158redditors hate rudeus because he's a manit's that simple
>>291698158Rudeus is a self-admitted pedophile that, as far as I understand, fucks the freed slave, though I never watched his show. See pic related.
>>291699360I don't think I've ever seen an Isekai like this. when the ops are anti-slavery, if they buy slaves it's to free them. and none of rudeus wives was his slave. one was his childhood friend, the other his teacher and the third his cousin
By being a girl
>>291698158Well, Rudeus also has super powers, while MaoMao, you know, doesn't.
>>291701364They free their personal slaves but they nev er do anything to stop slavery from happening altogether. They're okay with slavery as long as it happens to people they don't know/care about.
>>291698158Because normalfaggots only watch the most popular dogshit anime and form the same opinion as every other normalfaggot so they can fit in. Why are reaction videos so popular with them? It's so they know how to think.
Mao Mao didn't sell them off, she reccomended the brothal and gave them tips for getting in. Rudy, meanwhile, went around sexually harassing a 9 year old, and still considers himself s lolicon despite being married with kids.
>>291701492To be real, there are no easy ways to deal with a deeply integrated slavery system in a fantasy isekai world.Either the protagonist is the super giga gary stu with godlike powers that can just wish slavery out all togheter with everyone agreeing with him, or it would require decades if not centuries (or a pseudo apocalypse forcing Industrial revolution) with a better alternative slowly getting implemented and expanded to stop slavery.Too many nobles are using it even in countries where its supposed to be “not legal”, some poor people needs it to get some food on table especially in very desperate situations, and the slavery organizations would be as powerful as a shadow government if said system is too deeply bound within the society.Rudy has not god-like reality bending powers, and neither the gods within the setting cares about slavery enough to have to deal with that mess.
>>291702891Anon, most isekai protagonists have cheat skills that can totally do that and even more, magic just by existing should soleve the issue of why do you need slaves for in the first place (field work, mine work, etc). The entire thing is THAT stupid.
>>291703283Yeah, but i was talking about the “good written” settings where it makes sense, like MT.For bullshits like Smartphone isekai, that’s another pair of dirty socks
>>291698158Because MT is generic bottom of the barrel unironic power fantasy wish fulfilment isekai slop with the most horridly generic mc ever. If you want good isekai just watch Konosuba/Frieren/DM/Overlord/etc.
>>291698158Thank god the japanese are shitting on her as she deserves.
>>291698158>Why are WesternStopped reading there.
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>>291703317I respect you want to defend MT but anon, in the real world people managed to abolish slavery without super powers and by having even less means than Rudeus.
>>291701364>I don't think I've ever seen an Isekai like thisLiterally every isekai with slavery as a major plot element
>>291698158normalfags love rudeus and MT, it's only redditors that hate him because they get envious of him
Crazy how people bitch and moan so much about depictions of slavery in chinese basket tapestries but never seem to want to do anything about real life slavery and human trafficking (which is still very much a real problem and will continue to exist)I'm tired of all this shallow, performative self-righteousness people have nowadays
>>291704058True but modern slavery usually happens in complete 3rd world shit holes and not even the most self righteous performative types care about those places
>>291704058People do, and there's organizations trying to help, but usually the main obstacle are local corrupt governments that allow the situation to get bad in the first place.
>>291704106Is Qatar the 3rd world?
>>291705121Technically, yes. Unless you mean poor, in which case I'll just say, they may not be poor but they're really corrupt.
>>291704106Leftists complain about Saudi arabia all the time, anon.
>>291703460>MT is generic bottom of the barrel unironic power fantasy wish fulfilment isekai slop with the most horridly generic mc ever>recommends konosuba>calls frieren & DM isekaiholy shit you're retarded, is parroting other people's opinion all you can do?how did you even manage to bypass the captcha?
>>291699360>as far as I understand, fucks the freed slaveHe doesn't.
>>291705721He is neither a pedo, but you cant split the shitpost bundle, it must be all said.
>>291698158Both of them are trash and their series are sloppy slop. There's like five better isekai airing every season. And yes, maomao is basically isekai, given how many tropes from thw genre it has.
>>291698158women have infinitely more value than any m*le so they're allowed to do whatever they want. Specially maomao who is literally me a queen girlboss
>>291698158maomao is not a 40 year old pedophile from a modern country. she is not in a fantasy world where genre conventions are that a protagonist has a significant amount of power to change the world's society and power structures. other isekai protags do just Free the Slaves. i do think part of why people really dislike the slavery shit in isekai is that japan has 0 historical understanding of slavery around the globe. japan is not writing analogs to the transatlantic slave trade, they are writing sexy harem slaves.Maomao on the other hand has a very limited number of ways to help the beggar girls. i thought she'd recommend them to the inner palace, but the narrative has reminded us time and time again that the inner palace is a treacherous place and it is easy to die for no reason there.the other options would be:- live with her and train to be an apothecary (she already has a kid to care for and its skilled work requiring literacy)- court lady: once again, literacy- recommendation to the safest brothel that she personally grew up in, can check up on, and is a feasible path to gaining skills and marrying up. the important thing is that she personally knows where they are and if something better comes up, she can negotiate with the granny. the only other thing i can think of involves leveraging jinshi. getting the crown prince involved with 2 beggar girls that she barely knows seems like a pretty big security risk.while i think she made the right choice, its 100% supposed to make you feel gross. the whole story of apothecary diaries centers around how when women are treated as lesser, they can't grow into the people they deserve to be, and instead have to make hard choices. Maomao is only as kind as the world lets her be - and the kindest she can be in this case is a fucking child trafficker.I do also think that her caution around jinshi and her bio dad prevents her from having the power to really help those girls.
>>291698158why would you take anything from covidweebs seriously?just ridicule them and then move on
>>291703873> in the real world people managed to abolish slavery without super powersGroups of wealthy people that pushed the industrial revolutions due to the higher wellfare allowed for consumerism and new technological advancement, and humans as specie managed to get “rid” of slavery only 100-200 years ago compared to the whole duration of human’s history, which is quite a fresh novelty compared to the time slavery has been a thing.All these requirements have yet to happens in MT’s world since the sensible technological advancement is only happening in between Rudi’s elderly and after he passed away.And no, the magic existing means the slavery is easier to be kept compared to our world.More people with powers, more races interested into keeping it, the slavers have access to powerful mercenaries to keep the shady stuff going and enforced.Until an actual Industrial revolution, slavery is going to stay hard in this world.
>>291706775>that a protagonist has a significant amount of power to change the world's society and power structures. other isekai protags do just Free the SlavesAre you demanding all stories have the same story beats?Slavery still exists to this day in our world even though there are powers that can completely eradicate it, how do you contend that with your world view?
>>291703873>in the real world people managed to abolish slavery without super powers and by having even less means than Rudeus.that's completely false, slavery still exists in mass to this day on earth
>>291703283>Anon, most isekai protagonists have cheat skills that can totally do that and even moreA cheat skill that can defeat a big scary monster doesn't mean it will work as effectively at solving societal woes. Slavery as an institution is incredibly complex and not something you can simply overturn on a whim. There needs to major reforms and that tends to go beyond what the writer wants to tell in his story.
>>291706775> writing analogs to the transatlantic slave tradeBecuase that was the most brutal expression of slavery and what is now remembered as its lowest point (thanks to USA and the Bongs)Slavery was actually different historically , based on the country-culture where it was happening and the owners.Most slaves were considered actual goods of value and needing to be kept well fed and healty to work.And in the past slaves reflected the owners, bad looking and starving slaves== shitty and lowly owners
if you want to know if your setting does slavery well, replace the cute anime slave girl with a black person and and show it to your boss.
>>291698158MaoMao?More like MaoMaxwell
Slavery is not bad
>>291706963what an odd thing to say, why would i show my boss my writing?
>>291706963>we wuz the only slaves n shit
>>291707037to get a promotion
>>291707054give it a try, say that line to him too.
>>291698158Male BADFemale GOOD
>>291706935>Becuase that was the most brutal expression of slaverylol lmao evenThe worst slavery has always happened in the middle east; take a look at the assyrian empire and what they did with slaves and those they conquered.Too long ago for you?Look at what the islamic caliphates did to acquire slaves of europeans.Look at how they treated those slaves.>muh niggers on plantationsThey were treated better than any other slave in history, and they weren't even enslaved by whites.They were enslaved by other africans.They were freed by whites.
>>291701364>Please save us oh great Japanese man we can't think by ourselves, we kneel to the great man from the land of the Rising Sun
>>291703523No they aren't. It's a way bigger issue in the West. I see two posts total from the Japanese saying it's weird that the protagonist "sold" the girls into the sex trade and everyone else is making fun of their reading comprehension.
>>291706821If only he came from a world who actually managed to make an abolitionist movement and he could pass that information to others to guide them and help them with his knowledge so at least they could find a way to help other slaves. Oh, wait.
>>291708383>They were enslaved by other africans.Yes and no, they were prisoners of war, like most slaves trough history, but the part of "we need black slaves because ideological reasons" that feed an entire industry was totally white people's invention. Before that, the only measure was "criminal, debtor, prisoner of war, and born into slavery" with no particular race attached.
>>291698158There is a landwhale making a fuzz of whatever anime she sees apparently she cant distinguish reality from fiction.
>>291704058>but never seem to want to do anything about real life slavery and human traffickingWhen I do right wingers call it white genocide and throw a fit.
>>291699360>I didn't read your shitty story which is problematic and needs to not exist but i heard second hand the guy fucked a slave(he didn't) therefore we hate you for it(based entirely off not actually reading it, and misunderstanding things second hand)I miss when haters had to actually read
>>291706738>>291707467But enough about western characters.
>>291710076Yes, I'm sure the 35 year old NEET has the complete information on how to trigger an industrial revolution that finally makes it financially better to not have slaves as it's more expensive to buy, house, and feed someone rather than just pay them wages (and then they can buy your products). Abolition wasn't purely a moral argument.
>>291698158stop trying to using reasoning for this kind of stuff it never works. They hate it because its something for you and like the other because its something for them. its as simple as that.
>>291698158rudeus didn't buy a child and free her from slavery, he just bought a child slave. he gave her to his friend who forces her to make erotic figurines. he also offered to kill her for some reason, as if that's what a responisble adult ought to do when emcountering a suicidal child.
i have no literally no idea what mushoku tensei is likesomeone give me an unironic quick rundown because from osmosis all i could see is that the story is about a pedo Rance (but ten times less chad)
>>291706821Slavery was practically nonexistent in Christian Europe from the middle ages onward (they had serfs anyway), and was limited to heathens where it did exist. Colonialism revived it for obvious reasons, but even then you had countries banning slavery at least on the mainland well before the industrial revolution. Slavery was a historical footnote in China or Japan as well, they could have fully abolished it without any issue for their economy, but no one gave a shit.
>>291711187reincartion story that tries to redeem a pedo neet 40yoHe maintained his past memories and started new life as a babby in this world so he grinded magic from super early on in life.1st season is worth watching imo, the rest is.... depends on you.Also he has two (soon to be 3) wives
>>291706963>replace the cute anime slave girl with a black personwell now i do not want a salve, into the pits he goes
>>291698158Maomao is a sexy young woman, so she can do whatever the fuck she wants. Hope this helps.
>>291698158Don´t be silly, Rudeus is not Epstein. He is Oppenheimer.
>>291698158>meanwhile, maomao debt-traps peasant girls and sells them into a life of sexual slaveryHoly fucking based, I think I'll watch season 2.
>>291704058we're talking fiction here
>>291710410Whining about white privilege and the patriarchy, and icky “problematic” media on social media doesn’t do shit.
>>291702891Then slavery is just a way to give MC female slaves to jerk off to, that's all it ever is in these works
>>291703873isekai protagonists WISH they had even 1/5th the aura of John Brown.
>>291706775maomao could sell them to the inner court to be servants just like all her other loser peasant friendshalf the court likes her and owes her favors she didn't even try because she's a cunt
People complain about Rudeus having 3 wives but everyone goes “gigachad” when it comes to Rex from Xenoblade. Why?
>>291711187a 40 year old pedophile dies by getting beat up while jerking off to videos of his underage niece, reincarnates in another world, turns into a powerful magician and grooms a bunch of kids to become his wives, including his cousin. and then his son gets groomed by his sister and fucks her too
>>291703460Overlord is fucking boringFrieren and DM aren't isekai you brainrotted twat
>>291703873Slavery still exists in much of the third worldCorporate slavery exists in the entirety of the first worldWe haven't abolished shit
>>291701364No there are definitely some that are just like the pic, and a lot more that are mostly like the pic. Shield Hero and another one whose title I simply do not remember are examples that skirt the line, where the slave girl voluntarily elects (or insists) on remaining a slave even when the protag wants to free her, because of the author's kink I guess.Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo I think is an example that more closely aligns with the image.
>>291703873We're arguably slaves, but with fewer protections than in centuries past. At least slaves back then weren't expected to buy their own food and pay rent.
>>291713587Rex was groomed, Rudeus grooms
>>291698158>no backlashsomeone didn't read the 20 previous threads herealso people selfinsert in maomao more
