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Volume 69
The Start of a Crimson Spring
Chapter 665: The Current Me
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504

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>>291744113
So Madara's dream is just everyone being normal people with no powers?
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B&W
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>>291744140
>Minato: Sage Jutsu...
Fuck off Kishi
You had every opportunity to reveal this naturally from Part 1 with those frog contracts with Minato's own name already written, all the way to Part 2 with Jiraiya having it
But you couldn't just drop a line saying Minato was a sage too until now
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>>291744280
There he is. The coolest guy.
The Obito that wanted to be Hokage.
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>>291744280
Not for rin btw.
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>>291744100
Holy fuck Madara just get on with it
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>>291744316
Kishimoto tries to justify it a few chapters from now by having Minato say he sucks at senjutsu and doesn't have much experience using it in combat.

But a shitty Sage Mode should still be useful, and he apparently doesn't need the frogs on his shoulder like Jiraiya did.
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>>291744280
he's so cool
you could even call him the coolest
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>>291743983
>finally on time
You better not slip up again.
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>>291744535
Then wait until the chapter gets posted you fucking retard
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>>291744316
It's really dumb how sage mode was something incredibly difficult to harness and master, so difficult that Jiraiya was never able to fully master it, yet Naruto just completely and utterly masters it in a week, and Minato also mastered it because of course he did.
Which means Jiraiya must have introduced Minato to it, and makes Jiraiya not introducing Naruto to it even worse. Especially since he teaches him how to summon a frog just because.
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Done!
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>>291744535
>sage mode isn't my forte
>can switch it in and off at will and has perfectly mastered it
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>>291744584
soon
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>>291744280
>>291744293
>>291744561
>>291744584
Arigatou, OP!
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>>291744627
Two more weeks?
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>>291744584
Thanks, comfy canon OP!
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>>291744021
>>291744007
>>291743992
Minato was ready to put down his student not 5 minutes ago, and he's known to be the fastest most ruthless killer on field that gets shit done if needs be, so why didn't he kill Obito here
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One of my all-time favorite Sakura moments is about to come up. Can't wait!
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>>291744776
It's so cringe knowing you're just thanking yourself
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>>291744039
>we are madara
>we do not forgive
>we do not forget
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>>291744167
Based on his words he seems to view chakra as the one thing that makes human relations worse than they would normally be
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>>291744808
I'm not though?
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>>291744007
>y'all
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>>291744089
>suddenly kaguya
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>>291744089
Kagu-WHO
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>>291744280
T H E
C O O L E S T
G U Y
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>>291744089
Kishi is the KING of foreshadowing.
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>>291744915
he's the Sage??
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>has rasengan
>has shadow clones
>can summon giant frogs
>can use perfect sage mode
>can use kcm
But remember guise, Naruto totally didn't inherit any sort of talent from his dad.
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>>291744007
>y'all
>>291744208
>the hell you doing?!
I know he's "black Zetsu", but c'mon.
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>>291744915
Hinata before hrt
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My overall thoughts on Madara:
I will admit that he is a much better character than the other 3 main Uchihas (S.O.I.), although that is mostly due to headcanon. I like how he contradicts himself, how he criticizes the ninja villages for wanting peace when they do nothing but cause war, and yet this is literally the same thing he does. Then there's the fact that he pretends to be a benevolent, "kind" man who wants to grant everyone peace through the infinite tsukuyomi. But I'm sure most of the anons itt can tell the real reason he does all of this is because he has a messiah complex and thinks he is destined to be the savior of mankind, not because he cares about the wellbeing of others. I think all this hypocrisy actually gives him a lot of character and makes him pretty interesting, and he's far more enjoyable than Kishi desperately trying to make the readers sympathize with Itachi and Obito when they're both cartoonishly evil psychopaths.
Sadly, I don't think most of this was intentional, and Madara is actually supposed to be noble and benevolent, and any flaw he has as a person is attributed to "muh Uchiha hate curse" or him being a retard who's Zetsu's puppet.
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How many episodes of ninku kino have you guys watched in preparation for the crossover?
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Meh, oldfag naruhina guy left. I'm bored without him
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>>291745027
Imagine being this braindead of a consoomer
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you're a real naruto fan?

name all the ninkus and their special fruit abilities
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>>291744973
>I axed you a question!
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So there more regular posts since the Kishimoto spin-off. i do feel the final war arc wasnt bad. first, was big, bigger than most shonen wars, since hes not only writing a lot of characters but drawing them as well. also Madara still the best naruto villain. aura matter and he had more than any other character on the series
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From here on out things are gonna get simple I hope
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>>291744168
I can barely understand what happens here
>first Madara cuts Minato's arm
>then he kicks him away
>then... he kicks him again?
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>>291745313
Black Zetsu is so retarded, holy hell
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>>291744208
Was there any answer Madara could've given him that would've made him stay on his side? Like, if instead of saying he's Madara, he went "you're Obito who's going to bring back the real Rin" or something like that?
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can this nigga not die and needed saving for 5 seconds?
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I do like how in upcoming chapters Minato still manages to do cool stuff while missing both arms.
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>>291745320
>Cuts the arm
>Kicks the arm away towards Kakashi
>Then kicks Minato
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>>291744007
Y'ALL NINJA FELLERS GONNA LEARNS HOW WE'S DO IT SAGE STYLE YA HEAR
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>>291745320
he kicked his arm away then kicked minato
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>>291745313
>Black Zetsu bellow a guy he will effortlessly one shot.
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>>291744039
DIDN'T DO IT FOR RIN BTW
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>>291745313
>>291745480
Wait is black zetsu that high purely based on his BLITZING Minato last chapter or did I miss him before?
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>>291744089
Wow sounds like this Six Paths chuddy should have done a better job at teaching people
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>>291744073
But how did the Sage of 6 Paths disperse chakra across everyone?
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>>291745435
Not really. Minato looks like such a bitch in the war.
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>>291745431
Suigetsu, the White Jet, would run so fast around the globe that he'd rewind time to prevent Sasuke from getting this stab wound btw.
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>>291745393
What a stupid, pointless post
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>>291744100
yeah geez I wonder why your heart was incompatible with everyone else's Mr Control Freak Chimpout Central
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>>291745497
Exactly. Not even the YELLOW FLASH can catch him.
It's either that or putting every iteration of Minato in not impressed tier.
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>>291744280
This shit is so lame
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>>291745393
What an intelligent, meaningful post.
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Carrot won
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>>291744184
uselesskura
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>>291745630
Such a sad existence you live.
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>>291745497
Pretty much.
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>>291745585
I read it as Suigetsu, the White Jeet
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Be honest. Would you be satisfied if she was the reason they beat Madara?
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>>291744280
>Minato's sage mode Madara klling Rasengan gave Kakashi a rash and nothing else
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>>291744184
Kakashi getting kwabbed by Minato's severed arm is funny
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>>291745734
Part I Kabuto would have tanked that
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>>291745393
I think he would have lost him if he said "the real Rin", really I'm not sure there was anything he could have said
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>>291745320
Literal mouth breather
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The new manga is gonna be a nothingburger, eh?
I'm rereading salad gaiden and it's shittier than I remembered. Also Sasuke totally fucked Sakura, ew.
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>>291745393
Probably not. Actions speak more than words and it the last 15minutes Madara betrayed Obito twice.
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funnycomfy
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>>291743983
>Lee on the cover as if he's gonna be relevant this volume
>Guy's shitty annoying father
>Naruto forcefully shoved in
Is this the worst volume cover in the series?
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>>291743992
So, Minato pooping out the ninetails doesn't affect him at all?
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>>291744184
>Gaara's auto sand defense couldn't even protect him from Minato's body
Is that even a thing anymore?
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>>291745922
Lee and his dad are the reason he does 8gates and sacrifices his life. Naruto is the savior who saves his life, but is of lesser relevance hence color coded and faux phased out. Perfectly reasonable cover, retard-kun.
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>>291745939
What's he supposed to do? Die? He's literally maneuvering a corpse kek.
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>>291745922
>Lee on the cover as if he's gonna be relevant this volume
Oh you don't remember the crazy shit he does this volume
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>>291744039
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>>291743992
I like that Obito's white sage-body makes his fusion with black-zetsu resemble a twisted version of the original black-and-white Zetsu
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>>291744100
>power leads to desire for conflict
I feel like you might be biased here, because that's what power does to you.
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>>291746068
I don't think he's supposed to have any sage chakra.
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>>291744039
What does Obito want from Madara? Approval? Respect? Affection? Confirmation of what a dick Madara is?
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>>291744073
>>291744089
>this is what kaguyatologists actually believe
kind of insane that madara's entire worldview was shaped by the story he read on a rock
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>>291746128
And I wonder if Madara had replied with something like 'you're my comrade' would Obito have been more hesitant to become one of the good guys again?
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>>291744140
Yet another anticlimactic transformation reveal after Juubidara, kek
>Huzzah, Minato had perfect sage mode all along!
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I don't remember this arc being so terrible
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>>291744280
Kakashi's wound looks like the face of a granny with bushy eyebrows.
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You guys gotta save your nitpicking energy until 671. That's where it reaches an unsalvageable turning point.
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>>291744100
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>>291744168
>>291744184
Minato and Kakashi looking worse with every passing chapter
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>>291745981
Atleast keel over for a bit, I don't know.
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>>291746128
Should have hit him with one of these
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>>291744140
Could have shown Minato meditating or something while Madara blabbed on instead of sage mode outta nowhere
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>>291744056
It's interesting that Madara acknowledges Naruto as Jesus himself here (the son of god).
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>>291744184
>sakura still on gaara's floating sand
>gaara gets suddenly blasted my minato being launched into him
>he loses control of his sand and drop sakura
>she accidentally squashes naruto's heart from the impact of falling
oops
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>>291746128
Obito is a sad sack of shit who just had a teenage boy tell him that his life is a lie. Please no bully.
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TIL there's a 10-chapter adult Sasuke manga. Guess it's an adaptation of those novels with the dinosaurs. Better art than Ikemoto, but looks sterilized.
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>>291744799
Or at the very least STAB OBITO IN THE RINNEGAN
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>>291744280
There is no stronger power in this world than a Rin cheerleader
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>>291744280
>Kakashi survived a direct hit from a sage mode Rasengan with barely any damage
huh?
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>>291744124
Good page.
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>>291745089
Fake fan
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>>291746561
Rasengan has been downscaled since like forever. It's funny how the Chidori never loses its stabbing function on the other hand.
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>>291745320
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If Gaara put up a sand wall and Minato teleported to Obito in order to stab his eye would he succeed?
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>>291744089
>Gaara
>I know
I hate this type of dialogue so much.
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>>291746372
Is it a manga about adult Sasuke or an adult manga about Sasuke?
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>>291744100
>the bedroom eyes flashback
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>>291746689
What would you rather have them say?
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>>291746674
For all intents and purposes nobody even knows whether Madara needs the second one. But they do know he needs kyuubi. Can't kill black zetsu though. So I get why he wouldn't go for Obito here. You also gotta remember that eye stabbing isn't even a thing in Naruto. Ikemoto invented this.
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>>291744140
>>291744168
>>291744184
>Minato has perfect Sage Mode
>Fails anyway

Most pointless powerup of all time, even the Spring from Mario Galaxy had a purpose
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>>291744089
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>>291746758
Kakashi himself got his eye stabbed before he got Obito's sharingan though
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>>291744208
How is Madara not dead after this.
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>>291746830
Ok fair, magic eye stabbing isn't a thing. Should have phrased that better.
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>>291743992
How does Kakashi even know about Six Paths Sage Mode, as opposed to just being the Ten Tails jinchuriki?
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>>291744280
Did Sakura mentally get to see Obito lusting after Rin here
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what i don't get is why gaara never tried to get sand in others' eyes so they can't see like he did in the written test.
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>>291745024
Madara is like a woman scorned who went crazy after his beloved Hashirama and everyone else betrayed him. Uchiha curse strikes again in other words. The most tragic part is, none of this would have happened, everyone would've been better off, if Hashirama had just killed Madara back when everyone told him to.
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>>291747024
>Allied Shinobi Forces get connected to Obito's heart
>everyone sees Obito jerking off in a dark cave muttering "Rin......"
>awkward silence afterwards
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>>291745922
>Team Guy cover
>no Tenten
yeah its shit
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>>291744039
>>291744056
>>291744073
>>291744089
>>291744100
>Obito, you don't remember? I have to tell you again? ok then, but listen, in the beginning of times there were two ninjas who.. remember Kaguya? I told you this story so many times, I was tied to a tree for 80 years. let me infodump this story again one more time
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>>291745914
My funnycomfy face
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>>291747084
Hinata and Sakura and Karin and Ino can kind of relate to this with their gooner-girl feels
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>>291745953
his mom thought gaara needed to get hit by minato
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>>291747430
she wanted minato to ram into him?
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>>291746189
Must have a bad memory
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>>291745024
Feel like Madara plays two characters at once while Obito is left with nothing. Obito should have been the guy behind the whole plan. Madara didn't have to be related to him.
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>>291746819
sakura looks at me like this.
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>>291747647
Uzumaki hands typed this post.
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>>291747647
For me? It's this look (I just threatened to chidori her through her chest)
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>>291747647
orphanbro..
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>>291744280
How in the flying fuck Kakashi tanked a Rasengan?
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>>291748441
The arm was cut off so maybe it was weakening before it hit him?
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>>291748441
Kamui
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>>291744100
>true understanding wasn't possible
that's what you got out of it? Hashirama bent over backwards for you at every juncture and you spat in his face. Madara was a vagueposting evil asshole that entire flashback when Hashirama couldn't have been a better friend, it's all so forced
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>>291748441
>>291746561
same as kamehameha/every other Rasengan usage. It can totally vaporize you, but at times it's just a friction burn that takes the wind out of you.
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>>291744580
Senjutsu should've been introduced differently in the story. All it'd take is one dialogue bubble for Naruto to say it's something Jiraiya taught him but he's barely scratched the surface or never got the hang of it. Instead he has no clue about it and it makes the timeskip of Jiraiya training look useless
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>>291744580
>>291749169
You people really give Kishi too much credit
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>>291744089
MOMMY MENTIONED!
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For all it's faults Naruto still proved to be superior to it's main rival Bleach because the latter did not try at all.
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>>291749314
Kek. Good one.
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>>291749314
Naruto for many many many of it's faults is interesting to talk about. I feel nothing towards Bleach.
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>>291744089
The foreshadowing is actually pretty heavy here. If you're Japanese you can clearly predict the twist from a mile away, that's how obvious it is.
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>>291744580
Why? Minato had a contract with the frogs. Absolutely no reason to believe they may not simply have taught it to him as a consequence of their own initiative. He was Hokage and the most gifted shinobi ever. Why wouldn't the frogs mention it?
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This thread is shittier than usual
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>>291749487
>English readers don't know but the first kanji of every sentence when put together actually reads "ZETSU IS GOING TO USE MADARA TO SUMMON KAGUYA AND HE ACTUALLY WASN'T HIS WILL AND MADARA WAS JUST SCHIZOPHRENIC"
FUAAAAAAAAAARK
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>>291749169
Time is a resource. They spent that time trying to make use of the 9tails chakra. It didn't work (at first), so what?! You're like some wannabe stock consultant who tells people they should have bought this booming share post hoc. The only reason Naruto even mastered sage mode so fast was because he learned how to use kagebunshi to a cheater level degree during the fuuton training. You people are physically incapable of making decent points, are you? All you do is whine.
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>>291744280
Ugh this is awful
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>>291749591
>Eop whines about x being bad
>Turns out the translation is
Tale as old as time. I'll never get home people can obsess over plot/world building while basing their shitty theories and criticism on English or Pinoy translations. If you were even a fraction as smart as you delude yourself to be you'd realize how fucking retarded this is.
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>>291749355
What does bleach have to offer besides fight faggotry, fan service and surface level themes about friendship
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>>291749835
It doesn't have much in terms of fights. It has flying bricks but with swords and bankai - and no swordplay(almost like One Piece)
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>>291749835
>fight faggotry, fan service and surface level themes about friendship
You need more?
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>>291744007
>y'all
Why is black zetsu african american?
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>Bleach out of nowhere again
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>>291744113
>>291744124
It's weird Madara is still trying to convince Obito with words here
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>>291750032
Bleach fights are actually really good. i feel most people doesnt know how to read comics or manga in general. thats why people spam the rikum page because someone tried to do a serious overview of how a comic book page is laid out. but you can tell about this post that people lack that kind of eye to tell if is anything is good or bad
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>>291750032
Bleach is One Piece except you can see the fights through the chickenscratch
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>>291744280
I'm... starting to like Obito...
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>>291750388
And has an average of 3 panels per page instead of 18.
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>make Tobirama a poor man's Minato and Minato a poor man's Naruto
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>>291750469
How can you type this when you're dead, Naruto?
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>>291750515
Tobirama is better than Minato. The war arc showed us. When things really matter, Minato chokes and lets people down.
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>>291750515
More like Tobirama is Minato if he actually backed up the hype and Minato is a poor man's Shikamaru
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>>291750515
Tobirama is a rich man's Minato actually.
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>>291750469
Wait until Madara notice that he can't touch Obito because Kamui is more broken than his Rikudo form.
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>>291750308
>i feel most people doesnt know how to read comics or manga in general
You sound like someone who likes to chew Squid
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>>291744184
how did Kakashi tank a rasengan meant to kill Madara????
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Guilty pleasure scene I want to see
Naruto disowns Minato. With all that shit Minato caused Naruto just suffered. We should have Naruto coldly reject Minato. Just 4th hokage, not dad.
Naruto calls Iruka his father. It's over.
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>>291750668
Have you tried reading the thread?
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>>291744184
I feel like a severed arm shouldn’t maintain or hold onto a Rasengan…
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>>291750668
Minato's rasengan would have done jack. He's a light weight shinobi
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>>291750668
He erased it with kamui despite being hit by it.
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>>291750699
>Guilty pleasure
No, this is just a good scene.
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>>291749835
What does naruto have to offer besides fight faggotry, fan service and surface level themes about friendship
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>>291744263
>>291744280
I thought this black stuff was Zetsu himself, or is he absorbing six path chakra from Madara?
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>>291750769
Fujo-bait
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>>291750769
Itachi
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>>291750668
He was worried for a second but then remembered it was the Pillow Flash's Rasengan
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>>291750657
>kubo cant do action scenes
i certainly a stupid statement
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>>291750668
Remember that it didn't even punch through 14 year old Obito? He just ripped a whole through his robe.

>Not even enough to hurt an infant.
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>>291749835
A rival that can kiss his wife.
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>>291750769
surface level politics and bad plot twists
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>muh bleach
Just like I said previously. Acceptable target.
Nart bwos can't attack big boys DB and One Piece.
It's always Bleach. Black Clover.
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>>291749835
Nothing, but that's the point. It doesn't try to tackle a massive question like Naruto but never deliver on it + rule of cool.
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What's Ichigo's motivation/goal throughout the series?
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>>291750979
Saving Rukia. And then fighting bad guys that come his way.
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>>291750979
>Pwotect my fwiends :)
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Always had a crush on this guy. He's so handsome, strong and a capable ninja.
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Naruto bragged about becoming hokage through the series. then in boruto movie (canon btw unlike boru mango) we're shown naruto completely failed to sustain kakashi's achievements. through kakashi's reign konoha advanced, naruto did nothing, was hokage for 7 years then jobbed to a teen.
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>>291750979
protecting his friends. it's certainly better than naruto obsessing over sasuke. but i do like naruto more than bleach.
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>>291751066
More a toddler, Himawari didn't have a 2 digits age at the moment.
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>>291751063
which mentally ill naruto character are you?
orochimaru?
evil gaara?
naruto?
sakura?
karin?
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>>291750769
People with real hopes and dreams and their inter personal relationships.
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>>291750979
What was Goku's motivation/goal throughout the series?
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At least Bleach characters act their age unlike Naruto toddlers.
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>>291751112
Waku Waku, raising his son, never kissing Chichi. He's quite complex
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>>291751112
fighting strong opponents, protecting others, training
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>>291751112
Goku likes to fight, he wants to train and spar with stronger opponents. the core theme is there's always a bigger fish and you should hone your skills.
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>>291751132
besides naruto, obito, and gaara, who doesn't act their age?
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>>291750932
Bleach is better than Naruto and Warm Piss tho
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>>291751099
Orochimaru.

Btw I always had a crush on Chadimaru as well
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>>291751132
You missed the entire point
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>>291751111
>Naruto: I wanna become hokage because i'm such an attention whore
>Sakura: I wanna fuck Sasuke
>Sasuke: I wanna restore clan's glory because my brother raped me
>Hinata: I wanna fuck Naruto
>Rest of the girls: I wanna fuck Sasuke
Are we serious right now?
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>>291751422
There is still more humanity conveyed in this simplification than anything in bleach.
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At least we all know HxH is the undisputed GOAT
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>Bleachcucks
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>>291751112
WAKUWAKU, FINDING MORE VICTIMS OF COURSE!
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KawaHimabros HODL
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Naruto bros. Watch a second anime
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>>291751541
This looks like shit
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>>291751541
Post the chapter here.
Narutobros acting uppity again.
Let's remind them of Boruto status.
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>>291751541
I don't read this. Can someone explain, does Kawaki lives with Himawari?
Why is Himawari living alone and not in Hyuuga house?
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>>291751422
>ninku:
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>>291751584
>Boruto status
Garbage?
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>>291751498
...of hiatuses and let downs...
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I think it truly struck me when I was watching both these shows side by side. I was trying to recreate the fun I had watching HxH and jojo side by side. Or when I watched bleach and fmab side by side way before that. It failed.

Anyway, I was at the scene where Tsunade was fixing Lee's spine and that's when it struck me just how simplistic bleach is in comparison. I am amazed that this comparison even exists. They are not on same level
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now that I think about it what the ninku is Burrito's goal??
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>>291751541
No implication of romantic love btw.
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>>291751499
>posts an awesome as fuck image
>this is somehow an own
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>>291751612
No, Himawari lives alone in the Uzumaki household while Kawaki lives with the cyborgs and only visits Hima every once in a while.
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>>291744073
Over time I thought Madara was a stupid hype man DBZ but I think I appreciate his character now
It's funny that Madara wants to achieve his world peace with the super moon matrix plan because he's ultra doomerpilled about chakra failing to connect people together. But he himself doesn't want to understand anyone else's hearts, cut off all his bonds, sees all his allies as subordinates and extensions of himself and refused Hashirama's dream time and time again and is using said chakra to force everyone to do what he wants
Obito's motivations aligned with the desire to enact the Infinite Tsukuyomi but it's also why he gave up
Madara is a massive hypocrite which is why he's the only who can do it without hesitation
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bleach peaked when the bald guy in kenpachi's squad did a bankai when bleach nappa arrived in ichigo's town
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>>291751614
Fuusuke wants to find his mother
Rihoko wants to reunite with her brother.
Haven't watched more episodes busy with cyberpunk, beerus and naruto manga
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>>291751541
I feel like concept of Kawaki was Kishimoto's idea. Kawaki's obsession with nanadaime looks like fujo bait
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>>291751541
i said post the fucking chapter
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>>291751689
True. Bleach is leagues better than Naruto.
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>>291751892
Why don't you do it? Not like anyone is going to read it or care. Thread is tumbleweeds anyway
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>>291751541
>bottom right panel
imagine if she tripped and fell
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>>291751903
Naruto even at its worst never got as bad as Bleach
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>>291751859
He was, Kawaki is confirmed to be Kishimoto's idea IIRC.
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>>291750939
Bleach has all of Naruto's problems dialed up to 11, including the bloated useless cast
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kishimoto's art is great
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>>291751969
Kek
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>>291752074
Naruto never devolved into style over substance. Even at its worst, more focus was placed on the characters being traumatized people trying to fix the world's problems than on how strong they are
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>>291752145
And that makes Naruto better to you? Fucking kek.
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>>291751990
The original Boruto writer, Kodachi, said he was Kishimoto's idea.
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>>291751075
>protecting his friends

That's not a motivation, that's a basic trait all shonen protagonists have.
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>>291752046
>cup
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>>291752145
>Naruto never devolved into style over substance
This. Naruto never had style or substance to begin with.
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>>291752145
>Naruto never devolved into style over substance
unfortunately this was a mistake as said substance is awful
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>>291752197
That's a toddler
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>>291752278
The literal first arc says otherwise, as does the series's huge cultural impact
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>>291752145
LMAOOOOOOO
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>>291752346
Naruto's legacy? Ummmm a Rick and Morty character
Bleach's legacy? Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man
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>>291752372
JJK takes more from Naruto, Yuji is literally pink haired Naruto
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You can't be seriously defending naruto's gay storytelling.
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>>291751612
Kawaki didn't do shit during the timeskip. He’s literally a hobo, and the only reason he looks presentable is because of Eida. Meanwhile, Himawari is still living in her parents' house, being grooming by Inojin somethimes.
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What was your favorite Bleach arc? The queation is directed to those who don't like Bleach as well.
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>>291752145
It would be inaccurate to say that bleach devolved into style over substance because bleach never had any substance to begin with.
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>>291752046
I do sort of prefer the more realistic female figures Kishi draws over Bimboda girls
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>>291752439
Absolutely agree
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>Naruto thread
>look inside
>seething about Bleach
No wonder /nart/ died. Seems this series can't get any meaningful discussion going on its own and needs to bring up other shonen and instigate flame wars or shipping wars for its threads to get any traction, that's how dead in the mud it is.
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>>291752478
did.... did you just copied me...
>>291750932
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>>291752439
Gayest post ITT award
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>>291752410
My favorite Bleach arc is the one that isn't 90% pointless side characters fighting fodder that only exist to give them something to do
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>>291751063
>curse mark was a bootleg sage mode apparently
>sasuke never learns sage mode
>jiraiya, the toad sage, doesn't even introduce it to Naruto
>instead tries to train Naruto to control the 9 tails
>Naruto is almost completely unable to control any of the 9 tails post timeskip
>literally only learned big rasengan in 2 years
>uses sage mode to engage Kurama and begin to harness KCM
I've said it before, Naruto should have known sage mode to start Shippuden. Instead he goes from the entirety of the SRA to the Pain fight and changes next to nothing in his arsenal.
I get that the introductory portion of Shippuden was to show how much stronger Sasuke had gotten over Naruto, but you could have still done that with Sasuke learning his own Sage mode as well.
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>>291752397
>testtube baby boring attack merchant made by the evil scientist master keikaku with his evil relative inside him who just wants to protect his friends and doesn't care about being Sorcererkage and doesn't have people suck him off for bringing people to together and being the child of prophecy or whatever
The only Narutoish thing about him is having a monster inside him and trying to talk no jutsu Sukuna near the end
Otherwise he's way more Ichigo
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>>291750932
Naruto does some things better than db. And bleach has always been the main competitor to Naruto in terms of popularity. Sure neither of them hold a candle to something like HxH or FMAB but what's the point in that.
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>>291752612
First arc of Shippuden should have been the zombie arc and Naruto's enter against Kakuzu should have been him coming back for the first time from his training with Jiraiya. We skip pointless first meeting with Sasuke, humiliation of Naruto and tenchi bridge arc.
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>>291752197
let me guess, we're getting new anime project with this guy.
i'm so tired of mc having kids.
that's why I like Natsu
No canon ship, all bait, all fanservice, no kids
We don't want gohan, boruto bleachkun
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>>291749626
>angry kishi defending
lol. lmao
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>>291752692
>jiraiya wants to teach Naruto to control the 9 tails
>Naruto can barely control 2 tails
>jiraiya wants to prepare Naruto to defend himself against the Akatsuki
>beginning of Shippuden Naruto gets no-diffed by ANY member of the Akatsuki without going berserk and unleashing the 9 tails
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I kinda understand Naruto being a shitter at beginning of shipuuden, audience would feel left out, having naruto slowly growing alongside jiraiya in fifty chapters wasn't optional, since character design needs to be constant.
that's why we only have those pokemon evolution stages.
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>>291747024
What is the source of this reaction picture?
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>>291752033
idk how anyone can say that about Bleach when Ichigo gets less to do than any other character. Renji, Kenpachi, Byakuya, Hitsugaya all get around the same amount of fights or more throughout TYBW, and the anime had to give Ichigo a true bankai ability because Yhwach (Kubo) cucks him out of having it in the manga.
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>>291752778
He went from being slightly superior to Sasuke at the end of Part 1 to pissing and shitting in front of Sasuke. And that's with Sakura, Sai and Yamato. What went so right with Sasuke and wrong with Naruto?
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>>291752860
>audience would feel left out
It's a fucking timeskip. You're supposed to be left out and then bombarded with how much development has taken place for Naruto and everyone else. Naruto had next to zero development. He went from rasengan merchant to big rasengan merchant. Sage mode should have been his main thing, and then maybe Kishi could have expanded on it from there. They still could have stuck with the whole "I don't want to rely on Kurama because I don't want to hurt anyone" shit and expanded on Sage powers for both snake and frog.
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At least Orihime kept her booba in timeskip
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>timeskip gimmick
stop bumping the thread jamsuke
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our baby is kicking~~ goku-sa-k-kun...~~~
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>>291752692
With some work I could see this being better than what we got
>Kazekage Rescue and Tenchi Bridge were shit arcs to begin with
>so was Immortals/Suppression Mission so retool it, make Hidan and Kakuzu bigger threats, show Konoha actually losing major skirmishes with them
>Asuma can still die but it's portrayed more like another loss out of many instead of this big Shikamaru pity party and self-indulgent revenge arc
>glimpses throughout the arc of Tsunade in contact with Jiraiya about how he'll be back soon, the training is finally complete
>shit goes bad, they're losing the main fight with the zombie combi, have another character die (Shikamaru would be wishful thinking)
>Naruto ENTERs and either 2v1s Hidan/Kakuzu for a time or just solos Kakuzu but without the latter being nerfed into retardation to eat the RS
Kazekage rescue could still happen but make it take place later, we see Gaara/Suna plenty at the end of part 1, give them a break. or you could just keep the pace going and juxtapose Naruto soloing an Akatsuki immediately after the timeskip with Sasuke defeating (a healthier) Orochimaru to make him seem more credible
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>>291753163
THAT AIN'T MY CHILD YOU BITCH
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>>291753222
goku-sa-kun, you're strong, I like that in men
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>>291752894
chapter 242 or 243 maybe
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>>291752540
you fap to stick figures
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>>291753314
>you're strong, I like that in men

Oh yeah? Get over here then!

>*punches your pregnant belly*
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>>291752410
I like Turn Back the Pendulum
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>>291753363
>psycho rin.jpg
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>>291753438
If Naruto did this to Hinata she'd like it and rationalize it as good
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>>291752918
Any fight not involving Ichigo is borderline filler that you could cut without losing anything.
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>>291753363
What was Kishimoto thinking? did he really think this Rin didn't look like a psycho?
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>>291752983
Kishimoto never actually wanted a timeskip.
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funnycomfy
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>>291753583
lol she's fine with obito killing toddlers and assassinating hokage's wife and newborn son.
it was intentional
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>>291753654
She was watching Uchiha Obito which means whenever he was Masked Man that wasn't Obito so it didn't count she shut her eyes and covered her ears
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>>291753541
Fags
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>>291753438
it's okay if Hinata lost the fetus she would get into heat again like lionesses do
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nani the fuck---ttebayo
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>>291753752
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>>291753438
Can fetuses get zenkai boost?
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>>291753541
Can't believe Naruto had his clones transform into Sasuke and Itachi while he watched them make out... What the heck is wrong with that guy?
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>>291753784
ikku ttebayo....ikku ttebayooo ikkuuh ttebayoooooooo
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>>291753363
Hmm... she looks normal in the b&w version...
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>>291753784
>>291753810
>>291753845
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>>291753720
So it's an Anakin/Vader situation where the atrocities he committed as "Madara" don't count?
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>>291753435
I have fanart
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you're tellin me you masturbated to this? seriously?
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>>291752919
Orochimaru was a better mentor, also roids.
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>>291753163
That's a BIG baby.
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i forgot why hinata likes naruto
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>>291754055
he was nice to her once
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>>291753784
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>>291754055
She can't fuck Sasuke so she goes for Naruto
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>>291744535
The frogs are only needed to keep sage mode up for more than a few minutes
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>>291754112
>I'm a man!

she's a WHAT?
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>>291754179
Don't tell Bejita...
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>>291753921
Yep Obito did nothing wrong, Tobi was the bad guy
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I don't understand Minato forgiving Obito, he caused Kushina's death and threatened to kill newborn ruto. In Minato's place I would slit Obito's throat at first chance. But that would end manga too soon.
Minato is such a shit father, if making his sociopathic was intentional then Kishimoto did a good job.
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>>291754261
>In Minato's place I would slit Obito's throat at first chance.
Well duh, you're not as cool as Minato and you'll never be
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>>291754420
Absolute kino of the highest order
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>Don't call me dad, son, call me hokage
Does Naruto even like Boruto.
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>>291753784
Shartobros... not like this...
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>>291753939
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>>291744007
>y'all
What the fuck
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>>291754597
Hey, I have one of those too!
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>>291744089
ABANDON SHIP
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>>291744089
>>291754597
Good thread to post Carrot t b h
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Carrot won
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>>291752439
You prefer Karin's flat ass and chest? Are you gay?
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>>291754661
Did naruto fucked the rabbit and carrot was born
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>>291752461
Why do you keep posting this
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Why did the war arc do him so dirty?
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>>291752439
>realistic female figures
well? post them. those "realistic female figures"
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>>291744124
Madara genuinely believes all this right? I don't think he would need to lie at this point.
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How much of this crap am I going to have to read to catch up with that new naruto manga ?
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>>291754901
Nah, Minato has always been a failure. He's school smart and probably would've been a great administrator, but as a warrior he always drops the ball.
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Which one was worse the Thousand Year Blood War arc or the great ninja war arc ?
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>>291744113
Rin NoLastName.
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>>291755616
>TYBW didn't mass resurrect dead characters to bloat up the arc
>TYBW didn't take up a whole third of the manga's run
>TYBW didn't pull out a new big bad at the last moment
Neither is great, but there's no contest.
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>>291755765
>TYBW didn't take up a whole third of the manga's run

yeah it was only 29%, big difference
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>>291755678
He really fully finalized betrayed Madara just because he didn't remember his waifus last name?
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>>291744089
reminds me of the internet before musk ruined it
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>>291756302
ughh bleach bad ninku bad
one piece bad
only narutoe good
ughh
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I love Naruto
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>>291756302
I'm watching Edgerunners S2.
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>>291756513
D is going to die.
Weak isn't Talia's father.
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funnycomfy
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I missed you guys so much, even the retard that's constantly seething at op and spamming off topic drama posts.
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I thought I was finally free
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No chapter dump today?
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>>291757396
OP usually makes new threads, but might not know we’re back up
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>>291757396
>>291757763
Here you go:
>>291757689
>>291757689
>>291757689
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>>291744089
mentioned...

>>291744073
>>291744089
>>291744100
>>291744113
holy yap

>>291744140
why didn't this chump bust out sage earlier? shit writing

>>291744184
cool combo

>>291744208
wut

>>291744280
redemption, too late though



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