What are your thoughts on Artoria and Shirou as a couple?
>>291762805its basically t4tsword forced to live as a human meets girl forced to live as a man and match each other's freak
>>291762805reminder that she is king arthur and liking him is gay
>>291762805Shirou belongs to Artoria and vice versa
I'm so detached from this shitty eroge I played when I was like 15 but dropped when I realized that there weren't even real routes but more like volumes stitched together one after the other, that I'm not even sure if Saber, Arturia, Artoria, Altria, or Saver are different characters or the same chick
>>291762805Only incels like this couple. Women ship Artoria with Gilgamesh and Fate is for fujos and yumes now
>>291762805They are perfect for each other.
>>291762805I like the concept but Shiro is too unlikable
>>291762805They are okay? Thing is, they don't really do anything for each other
>>291765864you're kind of a faggot?
>>291765942NTA but it pisses me off Saber is constantly nerfed for making Shiro useful.
>>291762805Too ideal. Same with Rin. Sakura is just a fucking mess and tragedy waiting to happen.Weirdly enough, I think the perfect fit for him in terms of personality is in actuality Caren.
>>291762805I think they would make each other quite happy, but it's not a popular pairing because they're very "vanilla" and their relationship would lack the kind of drama the romance audience is used too.
>>291765997>Weirdly enough, I think the perfect fit for him in terms of personality is in actuality Caren.How so?
>>291766032The problem is one of those pairings that its fanbase is overwhelming male, overweight and smelly
the greatest neet gf ever created
>>291766067Because Caren is a natural born martyr where Shirou is a fake one. Both are twisted in a way (Caren's sadomasochism turning her martyrdom into a form of sexual gratification and Shirou's lack of self worth making his martyrdom a form of self-validation/vanity). Seiba is a heroic figure and ideal but wasn't set out to martyr herself in the first place. While Angra is the one acting in Shirou's place, Angra is still Shirou at the end of the day. The way Caren aggravates him is the same tension she'd have with the actual Shirou. Angra's just honest about how she'd make him feel and would want to respond. Their dynamic in Epilogue is incredibly reminiscent but Shirou's aggravation towards Bazette and Caren is downplayed compared to Avenger's.Rin is more a relationship you have with someone you have absolutely nothing in common with but come into because you like each other. Sakura is a pity fuck at best. People can pretend like it's something deeper: it's not. You can't fix someone and trying to is exclusively in retarded fiction that makes people ruin their lives.
>>291765942They were meant to be as shallow as the route they share, which is why it drags all the way till the end
>>291766266>Rin is more a relationship you have with someone you have absolutely nothing in common with but come into because you like each other. Sakura is a pity fuck at best. People can pretend like it's something deeper: it's not. You can't fix someone and trying to is exclusively in retarded fiction that makes people ruin their lives.Rin and Sakura make the most sense for Shirou.
>>291766493vague posting much
>>291762805Sucks. Fate/Zero and others are so good because there are multiple protagonists with valid motivations to win this fucking WAR and then there's Shirou who's just the specialist boy with nothing special about him so all the girls take care of him except he's actually most specialist so he has teh powar! and his surrogate nanny and surrogate wife and surrogate sister and surrogate maid all LOOOOOOOVE HIM for no reason whatsoever. Saber is a goddess.
>>291766101So it's based, is what you're saying
>>291766266Shirou tries to fix Saber, the entire route was him trying to save her, she never once tried to save him. He tried to save her from her personal hell, she never reached out to fix him once. He kept reaching out to her until he reached Avalon, that's their entire dynamic. A man reaching out to an impossible ideal, getting her to accept that it wasn't a mistake.Rin tries to fix Shirou, the route is her constantly trying to fix him, that's the only aspect the image got right.Sakura and Shirou are both broken in similar ways and make a complete person together, they both lean on each other in the same way, even Prisma manga comments on how that's they're dynamic. They're trying to fix each other, but they're both broken together as well, its why they're compatible. They're both broken trying to play normal together, they rely on each other to be normal. They fix each other by existing.
>>291766907Nope. Not even close. Not that either. She tries to, gives up, and realizes he's not wrong either. and just fuck off with that delusional broken half shit
Shirou, in a way that goes far beyond any faceless generic MC, is less of a personality and more of a set of desires that molds himself around the person he is with. He is the perfect match that is suited for any partner because he cannot be anything else.
>>291766101That’s every pairing involving Shiro
>>291762805I prefer Gudao and Artoria, it's perfect.
>>291768110self-inserter...
>>291768110have some dignity at the very least and cut out the middleman
>>291768110Gudako is a better character than Gudao. She gets to be more of a freak
>>291768169Gudao is quite interesting and his own type of freak. The episode of Fujimaru doesn't get it, with the multiple Gudaos from all the multiverse was great.
>>291766832Shirou is an infinitely more interesting character than any of the participants of the fourth grail war outside of Kotomine
>>291762805>>291768110Artoria x Gudao or Shirou are pretty goodI just have to forget that it's pushing AMWF romance which is fine but its noticeable when fairy tale legends gets riced by some little Japanese kidsIts still nice overall though
>>291768324Rice x rice is nice too, aka Gudao and Musashi. Man, I love the strongest airhead under heaven.
>>291768363>rice x rice>not chickpeas x lentils x rice w/ vegetables and eggsunbalanced meal
>>291766907>They're trying to fix each otherThey are not, Shirou fundamentally does not change per Nasu.
>>291768110My man
>>291762805It'd be better if it were yuri.
>>291768169The gacha-loving Gudako is basically just a gag character, her played straight is the same as Gudao.
>>291762805Tragic romance, but the most beautiful. (Shirou is a retard, tho)
>>291768619*straight
>>291768636getting more personality in the side material is better than getting nothing at all. Gudao in the omakes and shit is as much of a nothing sandwich as is the main story. 0+2 > 0+0
>>291768363as someone that's not a fate bro, that is clearly a white woman with platinum blonde hair and blue eyes calling herself musashi, a japanese man. you cant convince me this isn't another character for the writer's nip self insert to enact his fantasies for white women
>>291762805she is a groomer
>>291762805Slop for moids
>>291768636She's also somewhat lesbian.
>>291768169I'm trans btw if that matters
>>291762805Saber better when she is the third wheel in throuple with Shirou and Rin.
>>291769815it's pure wish fulfillmentbut these three have canonically lost their virginity in a threesome with each other before
I dislike Shirou and I think he has one of the least appealing designs of any MC. The orange hair and eyes looks so stupid and ugly.
Funny how you can study what's wrong with the world using this franchise.Wholesome romance between Shiro and Arturia is seen as bad because foids hate itAbusive "romance" between Arturia and Gilgamesh is seen as good because foids love itIt's over
>>291769832>it's pure wish fulfillmentBut it's possible canon ending.
>>291770097Also only side ending that got publicly released animation.
>>291766222Fucking hell look at how CUTE our King is. Ridiculous.
>>291767562kek
>>291770041you either go tragic "dirtied" woman path like Sakura, or go rich asshole route like with Gilgamesh to make women wet for a ship.
>>291769908His features aren't still fully developed yet.See Archer for his endgame
>>291768896Only way it matters is making you don't matter at all.
>>291770143sparks liner high animated never
>>291762805Worst ship for both characters.
>>291770041I swear to fucking god.When Inu streamed him going through the Fate remaster with his sister, I wanted to bitch slap the fucking whore for ragging on Shirou for no apparent reason at all and then saying Gilgamesh, who she knows wants to rape Saber, would be a better fit.What the fuck is wrong with women?
>>291768658You have Fate/Prototype for that
>>291768324if it helps, Shirou doesn't look japanese at all.
>>291770797>watching streamsthere's your mistake
>>291768675Gudao's pretty funny in the Riyo manga and Fujimaru Doesn't Get It.
>>291770797You should read female romance fantasy to understand their taste in men.
>>291768636The ideal characterization of the Gudas should just be anime Ashley J. Williams
>>291770830>scream about men being toxic>can only fantasize about said toxic menI_want_to_hit_women_manga.jpg
>>291770847In fantasy, you don't deal with the consequence of having a terrible relationship and you can reap all the benefits.
>>291762805Ruined by turning her into a gacha whore.
>>291770867Also, and most importantly: the men are actually attractive.
>>291770867dude, this shit is like every guy you ever know bitching about BPD pussy and then going on about how BPD pussy is everythingthere is no logic or reasonfitting because women
>>291770871Fatefags deserve FGO.
>>291770881the toxic men they bitch about are also attractiveand the reason why women cannot shut up about them is they're the only ones they can remember or register in their minds as men, and they dump them after fucking them
>>291770881don't forget tall.
>>291770287Women are kind of ambivalent about Sakura, because while what she has what it takes to be right up their alley, the route is framed in a victim-blamey way where a big fat deal is made out of her possible culpability and need to die for the greater good while her abusers are shrugged off and left to live another day until she deals with them herself, which receives little fanfare and is treated as part of her "downfall" rather than the liberation it actually is. The movies did a pretty good job at getting rid of the victim-blaming nonsense, but the manga might be even better since it shows the story from Sakura's perspective even during the early days in a way that makes the reader understand her perspective, as opposed to the VN where her intermissions were all "ooo spooky yandere look she gets angry just like any person what a red flag" shock value garbage.
>>291762805Shirou belongs with Rin
>>291770928what the actual fuck are you talking aboutretarded mongoloid
I think eating loads of people is actually bad and killing people who wronged you somehow doesn't stop the eating people part in any way whatsoever.
>>291770928I was thinking of the movie specifically when I wrote that post, and it did hit their alley hard, too hard if anything.Nowadays, you can't even mentioned the other routes without some retarded cunts going >muh Sakura didn't get saved in other routes, and ignoring the idea that everyone can't be saved.
>>291770982Sakura fags will say she consciously killed the people who wronged her and then say she unconsciously killed everyone else. Then they'll say she was consciously trying to destroy the grail. And unconsciously trying to kill Rin and Shirou.
>>291768110Gudao is absurdly bland in every way and ruins most fate porn
>>291770958And Saber belongs with both of them.
>>291771091You think Shirou ever get jealous of Saber in UBW?I remember the fate H-scene with Shirou talking about him making Saber wetter than Rin did
>>291771034Make the last part "consciously, but drunk on Angra mud and in self-defense against Rin", and you've got it.
>>291771129it's too retarded and ridiculous to take seriouslybut they do because they're retarded and ridiculousmaking up so much bullshit to avoid the fact you have to turn sakura into a complete object to excuse more than half the shit she does in the route
>>291770884>dude, this shit is like every guy you ever know bitching about BPD pussy and then going on about how BPD pussy is everythingSo tsundre and yanderefags?
>>291762805Plain guy x plain girl is the quintessential romantic pairing. Only spiritually corrupted people would ever dislike it.
>>291771639Neither of them is plain in any way.
>>291771187Pretty much, but they aren't retarded enough to go look for that shit in real life.
>>291771677yesunlike women, men are allowed to suffer the consequences of their actions
>>291762805The worst kind of enabler. Saber sees the self-destructive path he's on and says "fuck it, double down. Your dad was wrong!"
>>291772005She literally objected to it.The entire route is two hypocrites trying to make each other see that they have mental issues until they learned to let go of their guilts.
>>291772041saber was really cute at the bridge, muttering how she thought shirou of all people would understandit isn't until shirou is forced to accept he can't give back what was taken from the other orphans does seiba give up
>>291766032>lack dramaSaber is an emotionally stunted woman from centuries ago that is completely out of touch with modernity (she was out of touch back in her day too), never developed past age 15, is incapable of considering things from more than one angle and is stubborn as hell.Shirou is the embodiment of surivivor's guilt, has PTSD, anhedonia, whines too much and has zero self-esteem despite being a gigachad.There's a whole lot of drama to pull here. The thing is, Saber and Shirou don't match. They don't do anything for each other, it's a shitty couple on the same level as Shinji x Taiga.
>>291772337>There's a whole lot of drama to pull here. The thing is, Saber and Shirou don't match. They don't do anything for each other, it's a shitty couple on the same level as Shinji x Taiga.Who are Shirou, Saber, Rin, Ilya and Sakura most matching with?
>>291772337>They don't do anything for each other,Don't speedread the entire VN.
>>291766907Sakura has no understanding of Shirou as a person, she never even gets close to figuring him out. She idolizes him and sees him as a light shining in darkness. She tries to imitate his disposition and outlook as a way to save herself from her own terrible life.
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>>291771091>>291769815They belong under one roof as a traditional family
>>291774508And that’s fine.
>>291762805Greatest love story ever told
I don't like Artoria and Shirou as a couple, but I do like them as bros.
>>291772367Shirou goes well with either Saber or Sakura, but Rin is better off with Archer or Lancer. Illya doesn’t understand romance.
>>291762805No real strong opinions. They work alright together. But as time goes on Artoria's character has become a rather shallow demonstration of Fate's writing. She just kind of exists, her story has become so much about everyone around her instead of herself that the series at large has become very much like actual Arthurian mythology.
>>291774707True true.
>>291776609>She just kind of existsWhat do you even mean by this? She has a very established backstory, and by the end of FSN her character arc is complete. In the fanservice spinoffs where she sticks around after the war, what are you expecting her to do that is any different from any other character of the VN cast?Unless you're seriously talking about the gacha and using it to disparage a VN character. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt you're not doing that. Because that would be embarrassing.
>>291776912I mean any content whatsoever.>and by the end of FSN her character arc is completeSo everyone else gets to either develop more, provide amusing commentary, or be given additional contexts to work with, but Artoria alone has to be locked into a coffin?
>>291762805They can only get together when they are both dead in a fantasy land with no other other humans around. Something like that never appeals to me. Not that I like their chemistry that much to begin with.Rin is the best, and Sakura is very cute if you take away the iffy aspects.
>>291762805>white woman willingly fucking a ricecellol
>>291777452it's a fairy tale ending, you uncultured swine
>>291777452Don't worry, paradise has a PS2.
>>291770810He's still very obviously a gook, especially Gudao. But black-haired boys with blonde-haired girls is nothing new from the nips.
>>291771157>you have to turn sakura into a complete objectHey, good idea. What would she serve best as?
>>291780910an onaholeor a doormat
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>>291780910A comfy coat
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>>291762805They are OTP of Fate series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ljpQ244hg
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>>291785108>>291785247https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFODdeJWTM
>>291785951Based that Mikiya that isn't dating a white woman.
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>>291785951saber mogs them all
>>291785951Shirou Date the legendary king of BritainShiki Date The Princess of the True AncestorsMikiya Date a Demon HunterI love Type-Moon
>>291785247Just in case anyone hasn't read it, Curtain Call is a lovely adaptation of Last Episode.
>>291769832It's not wish fulfillment. It's not about Shirou getting two girlfriends but rather Rin getting both a boyfriend and a girlfriend all to herself.
>>291768110most cringe post of 2026
>>291765337>incelsFuck off back to wherever you came from.
>>291765614>he doesn't find shirou's sword autism endearing
>he's so cool
>>291768110Most based post of 2026
>>291789148Only male autists do
>>291790008He didn't choose to be a sword autist. In fact, it's all saber's fault.
Mahoyo should have been the eroge instead of Fate.
>>291776569Good job not understanding Rin's character in the slightest, you subhumam retard.
>>291762805Love them. Fate route is my favourite one, after all. I should reread FSN one of these days.
>>291790244imagine Aoko blow job
>>291778139This is a pro-Japan board and in these halls we accept Japanese and dubiously Asian-looking boys having relationships with white girls. The line has been passed long ago with the Asuka and Shinji dynamic. You WILL learn to be content with Nasu's AMWF fetish.
>>291766222>>291770223Gotta rep her with the cursor packhttps://cunnyx.com/nokia_yan/status/2104174746644427175Don't miss this one either pastebin.com/dj9T26kX
>>291792068Holy fuck you are embarrassing. You bring the name of every saberfag down with you.
>>291792184Because of the cursor or the other part........? ;w;
Caren is the most underrated Fate girlBazette has no sex scene so she doesn't count
>>291785108>Will wait for you no matter how long it takes>Fights by your side to the bitter end>Pushes you to be the best version of yourself>Would sacrifice herself to save you without a second thought>Pure as snow. Just wants to be your loving wife.Saber is an angel. I would do anything to put a smile on this girl's face. She's suffered enough.
>>291792787>Pushes you to be the best version of yourselfinsert Archer crying in the background
>>291792787she was made to be broken into an obedient pet
>>291792787I lift for saber and wear white and blue baseball shirts so I can one day fight by her side.
They're genuinely really cute together in the original Fate canon (as in just FSN and FHA), no idea how they are now
>>291792861Get off /a/, Medea.
>>291792985nothe severe lack of wedding lingerie saber porn is fucking criminal
I don't really care for Saber. Her body is way too masculine for my liking.
>>291789007Gee Shirou, why do you get TWO girlfriends?
>>291793229Have you seen his high jump?
>>291793229...two swords, two selves, two girls, Shinji.
If Fate was told from the perspective of Rin it could have easily been sold as an otome game.
>>291762805Saber belongs to Rin.
>>291786499Saber should team up with Ryougi against the titty monsters.
>>291792969>no idea how they are nowWhat do you mean? There is nothing besides FSN and FHA.
>>291793440You just know the author of her Eclipse scene was a virgin because nobody who ever tried to have sex in a bathtub ever managed to succeed.
>>291793495Yeah but it's still hot.
>>291793534It's always showtime in a VN when the MC stops being drawn with eyes.
>>291793072She's very insecure about that.
>>291793534>>291793572These titties don't add up.
>>291793495You can, it's just really difficult
>>291793651You can do some things, but definitely not sword in sheath action.
>>291793651Underwater sex is not fun and not something to attempt. Take it outside the bathtub.
I know the Deen adaptation has a lot of issues but the soundtrack is too fucking good for me to care.
>>291788852oh yeah this shit is fantastic, can't believe it took me til last year to find out it exists
>>291762805Shirou are Sakura are the soulmates of FSN anon, and we all know it.
>>291794097>I know the Deen adaptation has a lot of issues but the soundtrack is too fucking good for me to care.People keep blaming DEEN but the truth is the Fate route is only good as an introduction to the world of Fate, the writing itself is really bad and most of the Servants get shafted. The worst part is definitely Kotomine jobbing to Shirou, it makes no fucking sense after you see what he's capable of in HF.
>>291794151I love that part where Rin pulls the Azoth blade out of her anus. No, really, there is no other place where it could have been hidden considering her outfit.
>>291794129You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby round round round round
Rin and Saber, sitting in a tree.
>>291793303yes and it's already full of women as it is, since they hate sakura.
>>291794151Funny thing is that DEEN and ufotable both wanted UBW. Nasu wanted Fate route.
What would Kerry say if he saw Shirou dating Saber?
>>291794753hands off my son, you cradle robber
>>291770330ESL-kun...
>>291795161>they say she's robbing the grave, I say I'm robbing the grave!
>>291794097DEEN/Stay Night didn't deserve an ost that fucking good