>>291964483
yeah, would be interesting to see how this plays out. will mana vanish, will magic stay the same or change, maybe spirit magic will become the main way to do magic. Maybe "infinite" gradually forgets how to communicate with humans (meaning the dark/ancient magic ceases to exist)

>>291964610
Keep Cithis in jail.
Hell only Lycion really earned his freedom but he can bring along Fleki she's harmless.

>>291964458
>>291964483
Why is a magic vanishing from the world a theme in this kind of stories? Something similar happens in Lord of the Rings and Shingeki no Kyojin if I'm not mistaken, why is that?

>>291964561
Why's Lycion getting all aggro at Cabaret all of a sudden? Does he even care about the captain?

>>291964708
Senshi holding 75% of that LOAD

>>291964502
He steps out of the bushes like a damn cryptid

>>291964610
You forget thst this merry band of idiots are all sentenced to hundreds of uears or life in prison

>>291964643
I like Fleki's big gloves
Very Digidestined

>>291964520
I feel like elves are spiritually just eight year olds who enjoy torturing insects and are too innocent/self-absorbed to see the wrong in it. Insects here being short-lived races.

>>291964629
>>291964643
Cute Canaries

>>291964770
captain is so moe

>>291964782
Metaphor for industrialisation, innit?

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>>291964782
spirit circle, biscuit hammer, psycho staff, those come to mind as also being guilty of that

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>>291964793
>all of a sudden
You nuts? He's been fed up with Kabor for a while. At this point he sees right through his shtick. It's gotta take a lot to get to a guy like Lycion mad.

>>291964643
The persuasion check of the century.

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>>291964682
They're easy to miss, but I really enjoy all these panels where Izutsumi is just out of frame. It really sells the catlike personality. Probably hundreds if not thousands of these.

>>291964830
all same author

>>291964708
First panel has everything.

>>291964790
>Perhaps I could share my vore fetish with others.

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>>291964890
and also my favorite

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>>291964483

>>291964705
Cithis should not be pardoned but she doesn't deserve jail after her contributions. Instead she should be sentenced to live in my house and be my gf

>>291964815
> patty the world's most mature elf

>>291964708
Imagine the wafer thin charcuterie boards Mithurn could make

>>291964942
>Jail
>B-but Cithis he's only human he's got like sixty years left at most
>Don't make me repeat myself

>>291964629
>>291964643
>bare-shouldered Cithis

>>291964830
Once again food metaphors to the rescue
Senshi should become a food-themed therapist/philosopher

>>291964708
there is no way they could hold that up, they should be crushed, proving the cat right

>>291964708
You're a credit to the team, Chuck.

>>291964852
I think this is the most heartwarming page in the entire manga. Nothing else makes me tear-up as much.

>>291964801
>Very Digidestined
kek all she needs is the goggles

>>291964955
What a frightening thought.

>>291964782
This seems to be just a fear in dungeon meshi. But yes, it happens a lot.
>>291964830
>spirit circle,
magic comes back harder in the far future

>>291964852
>tfw vegetable scrap

>>291964770
With this page in mind, think back to all those questions anons had about, "why doesn't Mithrun just...?" I'm sure most of those are best explained by 'he missed," or "he was out of mana," or "he just made a mistake in the moment," but I can't help but wonder how much of it was actually him subconsciously trying to lose.

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>>291964643
I really like that they do give a shit about him not giving up. Wholesome.

>>291964629
That lower right panel is so cute, especially Fleki leaning closer. Kui's style became so much better.

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>>291964830
I have a lefty interpretation that it is about the closing days of european imperialism, and how the wonders and luxuries that came with it gradually begins to fade away with the movements of independence of the former colonies, though that is how I see it for LotR, what could it be for dungeon meshi?
this is just an interpretation of mine, I'm open to hear other thoughts about it, I'm not that well informed on the world of fantasy literature and I could be missing some things

>>291964790
Imagine his human form tearing up like this, it would be extremely more poignant

>>291964458
>the demon is gone, that man ate it
imagine how this sounds to someone without the context

>>291964483
flamela is so cute, goddamn.

>>291964561
Based Cithis making that furry fuck shut up.

>>291965105
That is crap. Magic disappearing is the feeling that overcame humanity faster and faster as science took over and religion went down.
Disease, lightning, natural disaster, even the fucking stars became greatly understood.
And with the industrial revolution greatly conquered too, not even the mystery of the fates matters as much when bad luck doesn't wipe out a crop and kills a village. only lefty politics can starve populations now

>>291964483
>queen just shrugs
Fair enough.
>>291964782
Bunch of cunts ripping off Tolkien doing it and thinking "it becomes like IRL" is interesting.
>>291964561
>lethimcook.jpg
>>291964610
Cithis contemplating a little murder after that reminder.
>>291964643
Persuasion check critical success.
>>291964708
>Chilchuck was gonna help, just missed his place
>Izutsumi couldn't be fucked
Never change, kot.
>>291964801
>He steps out of the bushes like a damn cryptid
I mean he probably is one now, just pretending to be human.
>>291964830
It's been said before but I love the commitment to food metaphors.

>>291964629
>>291964610
>>291964502
Pattadol is such a dork, I love her

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>>291964561
stop meddling you fucking shorlife

>>291964643
I like that he wasn't mind-broken or anything, he just really didn't wanna do anything until they convinced him
pretty funny

>>291965180
>I mean he probably is one now, just pretending to be human
Did he lose the monster skin because of the curse ?

>>291965248
No, IIRC the curse is never being able to be full again.

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>>291964629
>bottom right

>>291964830
>>291964852
I love the resolution to Mithrun's character arc. It's so wholesome to see him regain the will to live on and the thing that cured his soul and outlook was an unwitting drive-by foot analogy. It's so pleasant to see how well Kui manages to wrap things up and keep with DM's themes, foot metaphors, but also the value of bonds. I can never not smile at this part.

>>291964483
For all praise DM got, I think this demon<->magic part is the most underdeveloped. I guess Kui leave it as ambiguous because she herself doesn't know the answer, in contrast to all other questions where she would happily over all details

>>291965110
if he was human he'd be dead maybe 10 years ago

>>291965303
>>291964852
I think Mithrun has the best character story/arc in DM.
Dude went from being an asshole noble, to being corrupted by the devil, to vegetable, to a soldier of revenge, and when it seemed it's over, he actually chose to keep going for his friends sake.

>>291964830
>food analogy
I love how Senshi isn't even really trying to help with Mithrun's angst here. He genuinely just thought they were talking about vegetable scraps and wanted to chime in with advice.

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>>291965178
What do you think that the waning of mana/magic in Dungeon Meshi means? I can kinda see what Tolkien means with it going away over time, but what do you think it is about for Ryoko kui?
thanks for replying

>>291965248
One of its listed powers was shapeshifting. It probably had more to do with wanting to hide out of shame and embarassment, and that post-nut clarity of "oh god I can't actually live like this, they'd never stop hunting me"

>>291965091
But for this desire he should try to win, but to betray at the end and be dungeon lord again

>>291965363
Yeah, his arc is great and that's even though he joined the story only around halfway through.

>>291965267
No, the curse is that all monsters avoid him.
The apetite thing is because he ate lions appetite.

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>>291965397
Tolkien was writing english mythology, magic going away to become the real world was a way to make it fit more into the real world.
And dungeon meshi's magic does not go away,

>>291964852
>when that hope kicks in

>>291965397
Mana in DM never actually disappears. It just becomes part of nature and ceases to be a demon. So I think that could also be a metaphor for scientific advancement. As we understand natural phenomena more, they stop feeling like demons and start feeling like just nature.

>>291965451
The extra material in Adventure's bible and the artbook helped a lot.

>>291964520
Fleki is beautiful there. Retard but beautiful. The melancholy in the first panel.

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>>291964540
>He just dropped like his strings had been cut.
Sorry. Just had a little PTSD there...

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>>291965472
>>291965483
Makes sense desu, thanks for replying.

>>291965469
the appetite thing is likely just the normal state of anyone who have tasted desire. Desire, not even once.

>>291965494
The supplementary material really does a lot of heavy lifting to endear the extended cast to the reader. It's the one big thing I think the anime adaption fumbles, them not including some kind of extra shorts segment or side web show, where they play out those skits.

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>>291964708
our fucking hero

>>291964610
Why not take up a new hobby?
I bet you didn't think about fucking unattractive sheltered dorky girls that are barely legal until they are pregnant and you have to marry them, before the goat get you!

>>291964852
YESSS MY GOAT

>>291964705
Fleki is in jail for a bullshit crime. Otter too, I doubt she was actually trafficking elves instead of lesser races.
Lycion and Cithis have life sentences for murder, even if they get some kind of pardon the best they can hope for is a parole deal.

>>291964782
>Why is that?
Nihilism – God is dead. And we have killed him. The idea that, as we understand more and more about the world, there are fewer and fewer grand mysteries/superstitions that can be left. No longer are we allowed to be children in awe of the unknown, but adults left only with an largely grounded, immutable reality. The forces of nature now tamed and made mundane through the ingenuity of Man. Obviously the more we learn, the more we realize we still don't know a lot, but the romance that the world had, even as recently as 50 years ago, has diminished so much as to be completely absent in the modern age. There's a lot going on under the hood with DM, the nature of desires/fulfillment of desires and the impact they have on individuals, the ephemerality of life/learning to let go of the things we've lost/make the most of what we have, etc etc, but my brain's too shot to really put it all together right now.

>>291964852
thanks opsama

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>>291964629
>he wasn't actually in a vegetable state, he was fully conscious
>he just couldn't be arsed to respond to people talking to him to such a degree he wouldn't even lift a finger

>>291965582
Yeah. They drop so much lore and info about the characters.
For example from the anime alone, I thought Mickbell is exploiting Kuro, but in the adventures bible it's shown he actually does love him, and that Kuro is pretty smart, just doesn't speak fluently the same language.

>>291964629
>fairy crossing its thumbs for captain to awaken
awwwww

>>291964664
Torero!

>>291964830
>>291964782
Magic vanishing is more about the passage of time/ending of some era but I think it mostly depends on the creator. Mizukami uses it to represent an end to childhood usually, the Greeks might've used it to refer to the Bronze Age Collapse, and the Sumerians for the rise of agriculture. Anyways I don't really think it's a big theme in Dungeon Meshi compared to everything about nature, food, and eating.

>>291964852
>>291965303
>>291965363
I agree, his arc is one of the best in the manga, which is really notable considering just how well rounded the whole ending is for almost all it's characters. Also, it was him who made me realize I fucking love the archetype of revenge driven yet quirky man (together with Levi)

>>291965397
NTA, but I see the waning of the magic as another alteration of the status quo set in the world after the events of the manga, although one that will probably not be as extreme, like it says in >>291964483 magic will probably remain in the world, but now it will be harder to control without a "will" to canalyze the desires of the magicians who use it

>>291965395
>Autistic dwarf randomly drops unwarranted knowledge (nature) check, accidentally cures burnout elf of his depression.

>>291964852
This page hits straight into my deep and paralyzing insecurities in never feeling like I'm quite good enough as a human being.
Good job soldering on, Mithrun. I want to protect that smile at all cost.

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>>291965638
Yeah, there is a lot going on in Dungeon Meshi and the epilogue shows it, it would be cool if we could talk about that in these last chapters.

>>291964752
putting meat on the ground
Kui-sensei must have very clean floors in the house didn't she have cats?

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>>291965582
iirc there's also a part where Milsilir tells him she never liked him, I think. I don't remmber if it's from manga or AB

>>291965324
Could also be in case she ever wants to revisit the setting

>>291964827
but also general nostalgia after old things and joys going away

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>>291964610
Jesus Pattadol, read the motherfucking room.

>>291965998
no she says maybe if they talked more they could've been friends

>>291964983
>For our next dish, monomolecular salami
>Wow, it's so thin I can hardly even see it
>....wait, no, the wind blew it away

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>>291966110
Oh right.
I wish we would get more of canaries and their dungeon work. That would be a great spin-off.

>>291964801
>>291965053
>her partner is an Alraumon that later evolves into Weedmon

>>291966143
He deserved that rape correction the goat gave him

>>291964955
>most mature elf is a tattling teacher's pet

>>291964852
Thanks OP.

>>291964607
Is it fair to speculate that the spirits both elf and gnome style call on are motes of the demon/infinity?

>>291964852
Thanks OP

>>291964610
Cithis with the side-eye lmao

>>291965267
>>291965469
I thought the appetite thing was because he’s still a 7 ton monster underneath and he has to eat for that size. And the curse is that other monsters see Laios as he really is and run away like with Kensuke and the Red Dragon. [\spoiler]

>>291964782
even the ancient greeks told stories about how they lived in a world where most of the magic was gone compared to the era of heroes.
Course it doesn't help that whenever a 'civilised' culture encounters a people that live a life where none of them feel like living amongst magic is a thing of the past, they immediately try to destroy that culture and force their own ways onto those peoples
In this sense we can see a parallel to how the adult craves a return to how they felt in childhood when stories felt real, but loathe to see an adult that just lives like that rather than pining for it while killing themself slowly

>>291965267
>>291965469
You could argue that both of those things are just residual effects from becoming his OC. My headcannon is that the curse is that Laios and company will live the rest of their lives as humans(whom the demon views as nothing but creatures who exist just to starve and die)

>>291966273
Huh, that's interesting theory.

>>291964830
Based Senshi
>>291964852
Thanks OP

>>291966273
>spoiler
he actually gets phat in the future though

>>291966409
> cheers from the gay r18 community in the distance

>>291966239
yes, there was something about humans talking to demon (casting spells) and demon listening to them and learning this spellcasting language, so the spirits supposedly are part of demon

>>291964610
Thanks for the morale boost, Patty.

>>291966409
His wives and Marcille prefers him with a gut, you mean.

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>>291966110
Here, found it. It's in AB, Canaries part.

>>291964852
fug... I love Mithrun...

>>291964643
Behold, a rare instance of Kabanomicon actually doing something useful

>>291966605
It’s his third useful thing, fourth if you count the nightmares helping Laios.

>>291964830
>>291966605
And behold, instantly bodied by Senshi instead
>>291964852
Thanks for the read, OP

>>291966557
> i always hated you
huh. i misremembered it as envy. they could've really bonded over hating everyone.

>>291966662
Maybe different translation.

>>291964782
Allegory for a mythical/unremembered Before Time shifting to rational modernity. Also, people ripping off Tolkein.

>>291966273
> other monster see him like he really is
I like this more, but seems like the corpse thing points to it being a curse. Also I just realized that if Laios really is immortal/long lived, it's just extra extra curse because he's tied to his land anyway.

>>291964782
The word is "disenchantment". It happened in real life, too.

>>291964610
>just like Marcille

>>291964708
Izutsumi...

>>291966605
Hey man, Kabron tries his best as a face, and you need a face in your campaign.

>>291965105
>magic comes back and spells cost less mana than ever

>>291964708
Senshi needs TP for his bunghole

>>291966143
>Beloved is "untrustworthy"

No wonder she wanted to see his brother instead

>>291964852
39 OP. Cutest murder elf

>>291964610
>Otta only thinking about age

>>291964852
probably not intentional, but the double meaning of vegetable to refer to a heavily disabled person makes this more poignant

>>291964708
stronk

>>291964752
It's like a bridal gown

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>>291964782
The past is where fantasy is, and the future is where sci-fi is. Duh.

Helping Thistle discover new desires for cock

>>291964483
must kiss patty nose

>>291964418
>last chapter was dumped when the thread had already reached bump limit
what the fuck
and i was thinking there was no chapter
i kept waiting like an asshole

>>291964610
I can understand why Cithis wants to murder Pattadol

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>Milsiril x Mithrun
Delicious angst. Sadly he would sooner fuck Pattadol than her... though that, too, would make for a delicious angst.

>>291964830
it really takes talent to make everything a food analogy and then say something meaningful with it

>>291967322
They wouldn't have fucked because pre-demon Mithrun is too caught up over his brother's wife.

>>291965703
It's funny because this is the same state that the Lion fell to after Laios ate his only real desire to eat, where he felt that nothing mattered. But he still managed to find a new desire to curse Laios, just like how best boy does here by finding something new.

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>>291964782
Middle-Earth is meant to be another age of our world, long past. We don't live in a world with magic, so naturally magic had to have left Middle-Earth at some point.

>>291964610
>like Marcille's
With this and the squid, he completely misunderstands her taste in food lol

>>291967235
but the lion already ate that

>>291965545
It's become something of a trigger phrase, even after all these years.

>>291964708
Chuck...

>>291964782
It's the end of magical thinking.

>>291964830
Amazing how well the food theme just comes back around so perfectly, even for these heavy scenes

>>291967495
And that she rather eat testicles over brains.

>>291964782
It's a very obvious metaphor for the world becoming gay and lesser. People see it irl and apply it to stories.

>>291967440
did they get married fr?

>>291964830
>>291964852
Kui is genuinely one of the best mangaka.

>>291967322
it's angst because he's forever alone and milsiril is already shacked up with her pardoned jailbird

>>291964793
More like why wouldn't anyone be aggro at Cabaret? This retard has been fucking things up at every turn. And he's right, he has known Mithrun for literally like one or two days.

>>291964592
>>291964610
>>291964629
This feels like a bullshit copout. So Thistle could also gain new desires? The demon can just decide later on he wants to eat again after all?

>>291964790
>I am just scraps, I want to die, I have literally nothing left
>yes! that's right!
Kill yourself kabru, genuinely.

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>>291967536
That's something that strikes me as well about the series, how consistently she sticks to the food stuff and manages to make it fit the situation all throughout. That and it's kinda unreal to see a mangaka do so much just right in a final stretch of their manga. Endings are often something where many serialized mangaka struggle, but it looks so effortless here, how well all those small narratives come together.

>>291964610
>tfw Fleki ends up volunteering to accompany the Captain on his island adventures post-dungeon, only to realize you can't be rezzed anymore and then wants to go back to prison
She's truly his best cheerleader

>>291967623
Mithrun last desire wasn’t revenge, it was to die. He’s choosing a death that doesn’t involve the demon.

>>291967707
No it absolutely was revenge. Wanting to die deep down was just part of it.

>>291964782
Because that's what happened in the real world.

>>291967520
What about the desire to be tended to in a vegetative state?

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>>291967615
This. She's already fucking Helki.

carnal canary love

>>291967623
>This feels like a bullshit copout. So Thistle could also gain new desires? The demon can just decide later on he wants to eat again after all?
I like that it's never established black-and-white what the rules are for demons eating desires. It's up to reader interpretation whether Mithrun still had some desire left, gained new desires, his old desires were mixed with others the demon missed, etc for why he's different
Not a huge spoiler, but in the epilogue extras they show there's other dungeon-lord survivors who can barely function in the outside world anymore after living the high life, so Mithrun and Marcille aren't the only ones to avoid a terrible end fate

>>291967322
milsiril already has her pet helki

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Since it doesn't contain spoilers anymore, here's a fun bonus bit for the approaching winter season, with everyone playing Secret Santa.

>>291967615
>he's forever alone
Nope, haven't you read the Annals of Pattadol?

>>291968103
>with her pet
Wouldn't that be pitiful for her?
I thought her character arc would be leaving behind the comfortable zone she had built around herself since retiring from Carnaries.

Are you planning on doing another storytime OPsama?

>Mithrun
>Forever alone
Nonsense. Even if he's disfigured and ugly to other elves, he still radiates insane amount of sex-appeal to the lesser races
aka me. Let me have him.

>>291968126
>Lycion and Fleki trading drug growing kits
Cute!

>>291968126
Kui injecting thoughts of Pattadol/Laios at the very last second

>>291967692
>brings him back from the brink of death to help laios cut up his sister
>tells him he's trash
how do people ship this

>>291966557
wtf i hate milsiril now

>>291968065
Yeah, I refrained from answering the other anon, since it goes into spoiler territory, if only for 2 chapters, but I think Thistle's fate and the extra about dungeon lord therapy illustrate pretty well how Thistle and Mithrun differ. Thistle didn't have anything to keep him going anymore, especially since he found peace when he saw "Delgal" returned and who then told him it's alright to rest now. Mithrun on the other hand was surrounded by people who care about him enough that he wants to make an effort and start anew. At least that's how I chose to interpret things.

>>291968323
Why? She just faced him head-on.

>>291968126
Post the second part, if you have the time!
I love their reactions

>>291964643
Captain decided to try out homosexuality as a new hobby, and then they fucked

>>291964643
Holy shit look how flat otta is, that's so freakin hot

>>291968126
>Crab claw oven mitts.
That's adorable. I want those.

>>291967322
don't worry, I'll gladly take Milsiril for myself

>>291968323
By Mithrun's own admission he was a complete asshole who looked down on everyone around him before he became dungeon lord
Misril was actually being rather nive to him all things considered

>>291968126
You can tell just how much fun Kui had portraying her characters with all those extras. I always enjoy when authors go the extra mile and provide stuff like doing at least little doodles between chapters that have a character comment on some situation in the previous chapter. It's such an easy win and engages the reader more. Though Kui's output volume is kinda insane.

>>291968126
pattadol is such a fucking nerd

>>291964852
I wish I could see his happy married life

>>291968323
why, she pretty much was the reason he came back from the brink

>>291967147
>Yotsuba and Osaka
whoa.

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>>291968348
Not sure there was a second part. I have this also, but that's all that I know of.

>>291968624
>I have this also, but that's all that I know of.
Sorry for the confusion, that's what I was thinking of. Thanks!

>>291968624
I love that Pattadol saves the scarf and waters the plants.

>>291968126
I love Patty so much

>>291968289
She's too autistic for it to work. Laios' impulsive actions would drive her up the wall insane. She would have a heart attack if someone she cared about did that Ultimate Monster shit