Behold, the scariest thing known to modern man, complete financial irresponsibilityPurple best trader
>>291992295Scariest anime I've ever tried to see, I can't watch it, only vicariously experience it through other anons.
Funniest anime I've ever seen this season, I can't wait to watch more, the best way of experiencing it is with other anons.
>>291992544Who would have ever thought reality is the scariest thing imaginable.
>>291992295>Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments>streamingif you can't watch in decent quality, then i wouldn't question fx
>>291992601It’s a damn shame the manga’s going at a snail’s pace. How many more seasons can you even get with less than 60 chapters
Well at least she is just giving money to faceless jews instead of getting mating pressed by old men to give money to gay hosts.
I really hope they fall so down they need to use prostitution to keep gambling, specially the pink menace.
>>291992841Fuck are you even talking about?
I ask you once more.Which way, trader man?
>Sintancos got into FX Kurumi Do not want.
>>291994949MehI want him to keep drawing Siesta
>>291992504>remove any and every small girl fanservice>give us this>"B-but it's not anti lolicon I swear"You can't hate modern anime industry enough.
Does anyone else get emotional when the "AMERICAN DORU" crescendo happens in the ending?
Personally I'm glad they dropped the explicit sexual prostitution from the manga. Yes, I understand it is a possible result of dire financial straits but I just don't like it. Call me soft, gay, or whatever else you like but I found it unpleasant in the webcomic when Mochiko pressured Mebuki into prostitution and then she had her virginity taken by one of her new employer's agents as part of her orientation.
Kurumi would've bet everything on Forever Young winning
retard here. can you lose more money through fx than you put in?
north korean Kurumi made it big
>>291997223No
>>291997283so there's no real risk as long as you're not a degenerate gambler spending more than they can afford or taking out loans?
>>291997223Yes, you can, should be the season finale I imagine in fact de gozaru.
>>291997223its risk free
>>291992295She's looking at you like this while calling you a stupid fuck in the inside
>>291997484C O R R E C T I O N
why is the manga translated by fucking niggers?
>>291997223do it and post results
>>291992295FUKUGA Kurumi- Good fortune, Celebration (so you can make money)KOGANE Mochiko- Little MoneyYAMASHI Mebuki- SpeculatorTAKANE Yasuko- High peak, as in peak of the line?
The only real way to make it in trading is to be the broker.
here's your irl kurumi bro
>>292001411Can she do screams of financial despair?
>>292001411The do heels look better irl
i wanna do FX with her if you know what i mean
>>291997484Mochiko did nothing wrong. She's still an opportunistic pos and enabler, but it doesn't excuse everyone else being retarded.
>>291996713It’s the new Watamote, you’re not supposed to be entertained. Reality doesn’t care if dumb numbers go up and down. There’s no winning formula to profit because we humans have created a flaw economic policy. You’re never getting rich, not by FX or prostitution.
>>292001293> To be rich you need to be the brokerTo be a broker, don't you need to be rich?
>>292002078Yes, unironically.
>>291992295>the scariest thing known to modern manA PINK with internet access
>>292001411I need a Kurumi sex doll so bad
>>292002294Preach! Tell these people of the niggardly ways of PINKERS
>>292001877I can FX her.
>>292001411the outfit doesnt work if she doesn't have giant pink kurumi tits.
>>292002067Watamote is garbage now.
>>292001877AIEEEEEE STAY AWAY FROM ME GAMBLING DEMON
My retarded gf Mebuki
>>292007394The girls are so well dressed in this show
>>292003701I like the small tits better
>>292007394with a smile like this, how could you not give her your life savings for her to gamble away?
>>292001926The thing is that Mochiko used to be brutally honest but everyone in her school hated her for it. Now she tells people what they want to hear and suddenly she's evil?
This gremlin is so sexy.
>>292007394She's so fucking stupid holy shit
>>292008423At least she has great tits.
>>292008468I think that's where all her energy goes to
Imagine this is your gf (20)
>>292008642no 20 year old is that petite, this has to be a deformity of some kind.
>>292008642is this a lolibaba?
>>292008642You might get family discounts and compliments from other people about how good of a father you are for spending time with your daughter.Or you might get endless eye-rapes and awkward interactions after some overly concerned citizen decides to call the cops on you.
>>292008677Some are and look like gnomes
>>291992295I have -1.3% alpha across the last 5 years.
>>292009956The fuck have you been doing all that time?
>>292010194I didn't make some obvious bets, even though it was probably a good idea, my allocation for the index was too low and I was being too smart with some sector bets (it'll work out for sure, I was just early)
>https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/151583216HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>292011481>1 komaro and it's not even r18>6 kurumilove at first sight?
>>292011481>https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/151583216That's definitely how her fx career will end.
>>291997223if you stick to buying, no. worst that can happen is the currency going to zero.If you short sell however, especially on leverage, the possibilities are endless.
>>292011481Sincos-sama, I kneel...
>>292011481This is canon.
>>292011481All he needs to do is stick the landing and this will be an instant classic. Kurumi needs to end up as a pregnant slave bride to ojisan. Don't stop now, Sincos-sama! And for the finishing touch we need an omake epilogue showing that she eventually squandered all of ojisan's wealth too, so that the cycle may start over with Kurumi's own daughter.
>>291997223It depends on the market you get into and the type of trading you are doing. Technically US marketplaces are supposed to have regulations in place to simply close / liquidate the account upon approach of zero, but whereas overseas ones do not, but I wouldn't put it past the evilness of the financial jews or the stupidity of anons to find a way anyway that somehow bypasses the restrictions in a way that's met with "sucks for you lol"
>>292001411>>292001877Can you rent her holes for the authentic Kurumi experience?
literally how can you even lose money fx trading? ok lets say you use usd to buy jpy and the jpy weakens, so what? just never sell. Go to Japan and spend the JPY. You never "lost" anything.
>>292014657>literally how can you even lose money fx trading?the answer lies in the wonderful magic of (((leverage)))
>>292014657You don't actually buy any currency. Retail trading done through online brokerage platforms - like what Kurumi and her "friends" are doing - is purely virtual trading where you speculate on the price movements without owning anything physically. The only money that you actually own is your profits, which can only be withdrawn in the currency which you used to fund your account. So you don't get to withdraw JPY in the scenario you outlined. Calling it "trading" is almost dignifying it too much. In order to do what you suggest, you'd need to actually buy Yen directly, but that's something that only institutionial traders really do.
>>292013784By me
>>292013784ask him to do it
>>291997223in theory you shouldn't.1. you get force liquidated before you go into theoretical debt2. the only way one ever theoretically force liquidates is if a country rugpulls the currency so much that the mechanic of force liquidation stop order fails. (example if you have 24mil yen of position on 3mil capital but you only recovered 20mil when you close due to insane volatility you will have 1mil debt)3. unless it's in some backwater country like japan, most brokerages have stopgaps through financial insurance instruments that ensure you never go negative balance in scenario #3
>>292015758reminder that if you're against changing the source material for any reason, then yasuko should be a sweaty ojisan
>>292016603right, sorryI should know better
>>292010439Well at least you have something. Some people just bet everything on red and lose 100% of gains
In my minds eye I try to recast the things I'm seeing in terms of actual Japanese women, like I try to imagine 3d Japanese women sitting in a totally sterile regional university not-even-concealing their asinine belief you can make money trading forex on intuition and this is their college experience, and it's a very haunting picture
>>291996804also croix du nord
>>292017009they're young and naive and are on emotional rollercoasters.Anyway make a financial contract with me and become an FX Fighter.
>>292018136Prospects and average ROI?
>>292018136Can I fuck you if I make the contract?
>>292018136technical analysis is a pseudosciencemarkets are largely efficient and the price of an asset is completely rational at any pointthere's nothing about future prices to be inferred from past pricesthe charts a random walk
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>>292018735idontundestandanywordsofwhatyoujustsaid
>>292018775why is this fairy so fucking sexy and smug
>>292018306Normally maybe 0.5% or 0.1%, but we give you a Soul Gem... I mean 500x leverage for your needs. Just don't mind the fact that 90% of all FX Traders lose all their capital; you're smarter than that anon.
>>292018820Flying onaholes are like that
>>292018735We wouldn't have been able to progress as a society without the initial price discovery tho. That necessitates at least some people becoming the liquidity and some people hitting the arbitration jackpot.We don't even force you into investing unlike ROTH IRAs right now and people sheepishly buying index funds to balloon the AI bubble.However, if you want to wager your entire life savings for finance's great purpose, feel free to call back Madoka.
>>291993749Top left OR bottom right. I'd flip a coin if I have to, they're both perfect
How much profit can you realistically see in a market? I'm not sure it's worth it without the potential for a return in multiple orders of magnitude.
>>292019597You're saying if you can't get at least 100x your input that you'd rather sit on your money and let it lose value from inflation? You're kinda retarded, but yes that is still technically attainable, though the odds of that happening within a timeframe where you can actually enjoy those gains isn't really realistic
>>292019919Micromanagement is a bitch. You have to be monitoring your portfolio constantly to make the most out of it, don't you?10x would still be fine but I bet that's already like hitting the lottery.
>>292020041Of course. With "safe" investments like index funds you wouldn't need micromanagement, just set it and forget it (which is also statistically the most likely way to make you the most money) and could hit 10x in your lifetime... but it's still something like 25 years at their "average" rate of return. Gamblers like Kurumi and /biz/ in general only take on way riskier plays because of the greedy desire for more than this in a shorter period of time.
>>292020091There is an argument to be made if the choices are to wait until you're nearly dead or go for a long shot. Ideally, I'd want to try risky stuff with completely disposable income only and I'm wondering if that could hit 10x or more within a year or so.
god I love retards so much
>>292008257My onahole
>>292019597S&P500 has a historical annual return of around 10%. If you invest a 100$ per month for 20 years then you are gonna get about 75k out of which 50k is from interest.That sounds pretty nice but you spent 20 years of your life doing it and it didn't get you out of the lower class.The system rewards you if you have money and gives you a participation award if you are poor.
>>292020917That's how I feel about it for the most part but I'm thinking if you jump on something really early like crypto, AI, GME, etc. or invest right after a massive crash, it might be possible to make your way into the higher classes.
>>292020967You never make it into the higher classes unless you manage to pull a Bezos. Even someone like Notch for all his billions remains an outsider to them. He's just a filthy rich plebeian who got lucky, same as any lottery winner. Your best hope is that your children might take root in the higher classes if provided the proper high class education that allows them to mingle with high class offspring and ideally marry one of them. Upward social mobility is almost always a generational project.
>>292021081>He's just a filthy rich plebeian who got lucky, same as any lottery winner.Good enough for me, economically is all I'd want. Socially, the mega rich are bigger degenerates than most.
>>292020967Entirely possible, but that means waiting for a historic opporturnity which you can't reliably predict when it will happen and how it will develop.That's another reason why so many people get into trading (gambling) in the first place. Most end up broke, but the idea of skipping ahead and unlocking actual upward mobility within a single afternoon rather than decades is too good to resist.
>>292014908Sounds like literally gambling.
>>292008642HOtFIRE
>>292021542Not reliably but you have a good degree more control compared to traditional avenues of gambling, especially if you keep up with the geopolitical landscape and have good intuition.
>>291993460It's a confused bot.
>>292021081>Even someone like Notch for all his billions remains an outsider to them.Time to become new new money, and ignore those geezers.
>>291992544Same. Hits too close to home. And I don't like watching cute girls suffer.
You guys are trading righr?
was there any reason the author drew kurumi as a titcow?she could've made more money to put into her forex account by whoring herself out
>>292021579Yeah, well, it is. The narrator already told you in episode 1, remember? Since you're not actually buying any foreign currency, you're basically just making a bet with your broker whether line will go up or down. If you get it right, the broker pays you, if you get it wrong, you pay the broker. Hardly a difference from betting on horse races, except you might have an easier time to manipulate races as an individual, whereas in forex you are at the mercy of whatever the big players do to fuck with currency rates.
>>292021707No because my unconscious strategy is to buy the top and short the bottom
>>292021731If you were designing a girl who's basically your self insert, wouldn't you also give her nice tits?
>>292020041>Micromanagement is a bitch. You have to be monitoring your portfolio constantly to make the most out of it, don't you?That is exactly wrong. Historical data showed that the most successful traders are dead people. And the 2nd most successful traders are traders who lost their passwords. That is why the saying "time in the market" beats timing the market" exists. Basically impulses and random decisions that traders make tend to screw them more than it helps. And the few superstar traders are just surviorship bias; they are the traders who statistically guess right by chance and made millions, and they are not actually smarter than the colleagues who lost.
>I've been waiting for the AI bubble to burst for two years now to get into the market.
>>292021895Maybe it's not a bubble and you need to get in on right now before you're priced out of it completely.
>>292021914If I do I'll crash the entire global economy.
Pro tip>reverse candlestick colours>flip your monitor upside down>trade as you usually do
>>292021929I will short to compensate and create an endless crab market
>>292021683>And I don't like watching cute girls sufferWhat are you? Gay?
>>292021736The trick is to let your mind go through whatever process it would normally and then do the opposite
>>292022035You don't understand. The bogs are watching me specifically. They'll plunge the market when I buy. You won't make a difference.
>>292022038I guess I just don't have the CEO mindset like you do.
Flip the coin, which way will the candles of eur/usd go today - monday and the first workday of November?
>>292021735>you're basically just making a bet with your broker whether line will go up or down.Lmao do /biz/ really
>>292007394literally built for ojisan cock
>>292022633Betting on up.
Just wasted 20 $ on slots, should I join Kurumi's mom?
>>291997223Another retard here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgisRHEQ2FMYes, you can, but you need to dabble in leverage and/or derivatives.I can understand this explanation, so you probably can do it too.I'm a scaredy cat that cannot handle the stress, so I never touched it.
>>292023561And pass on the thrill of getting a margin call? Come on, you atleast gotta go through all the stages of grief dialed up to eleven within a single hour before deciding on whoring yourself out and commiting suicide.
>>292011568>endbold of you to assume that she'll stop.
lmao
>>292023661Just use hard stop losses and set them just a little bit before y-100% on your position so that an unexpected lightspeed spike doesn't start eating into your free account balance
>>292023746Why did Kurumi's mother even start gambling? Wasn't her husband making enough, since he could support her to be a stay-at-home wife?
BOLIVIANO
>>292023993According to an anon who has read the web manga, she wanted another child but the dad's income would've been insufficient to support a family of 4. FX gambling was her attempt to gain the funds to make it happen.
>>292024072The author really went all in, I see.
The market stopped being an indicator of real value centuries ago and is now just a mass psychological litmus. >Oh no! The big number went down! >Everybody panics and becomes depressed not wanting to work. Real production goes down.>Some smart faggot comes along and convinces everyone that it's not bad. >They get to work again and real production goes back up. >suddenly everything is fine What a joke of a system.
>>292024162Don't forget price of oil flying to the moon and dropping to the depths of hell within an hour because of a vague info that a meeting will take place where politicians will discuss whetever they should discuss the possibility of partially releasing oil reserves to stabilize the prices.
>>292024072Actually, that's manga only content, the webcomic end the chapter before this one.
>>292020423Left is smart tho
How depressing is this show?
>>292023661There's no reason to touch this crap, it sounds like literal actual torture. Like brain chemical rape
>>292024862Very depressing, since we'll never see Mochiko lose it all so that she, too, needs to suck unwashed cocks to pay the rent.
>>292024862It's not depressing even though it's despair porn, the despair parts are more exciting than saddening. And there's balance to it anyway, it would be very one note if it was just about losing losing losing, the misery isn't the point, it's building up to something.
>>292024862It's unintentional comedy.
>>292024862It's a thriller on a good day, and on a bad day it's cute girls suffering cutely.
>>292024914>like brain chemical rapeExactly
>>292021842You can't really call it making the most out of it if the money is never withdrawn to be enjoyed though.
>>292023661>just 2.5x in a good scenario with gigantic leverageWhat is even the point?
>>292011481This looks relatively tame.I'm looking forward to the Saudi Arabia arc.
>>292024862Depressing as watching a train wreck where everyone on board knowingly saw the bridge was out ahead and got on the train anyways.
>>292019079>spoilerI suppose I am. Is there a way I can get more…leverage?
>>292024072Meanwhile fucking immigrants just siphon funds and fuck on the regular, pardon my /pol/ish. How can we combat this?
>>292026301Pretty sure 500 is already the max leverage and even then that's for specific brokerages. You don't even need that much and if you're dealing with anything EU related it's autocapped to like... 30x.anon are you trying to perform a Sayaka yourself? Do you need a therapist?
>>292026519I just wanted to see how far I could take it. Fuck it, I’m losing my job anyway, sign me up. Now what?
>>292023746Chizuru.......
>>292026519I think some unregulated brokers even do 1000 or 2000, but it's not really accessible for the average retail trader and involves certain restritions on how to trade it. Still, borrowing x1000 of your initial position is an instant wipeout unless the market literally doesn't go the opposite way for long enough before your account gets nuked.
>>291992544i think its funny, although crypto has made me dead inside
>>292025120That someone? Me.
>>292025120You will never feel anything after feeling the high from being up, i doubt even heroin can get close
>>292027429Elaborate.
>>292027541dopamine / euphoria from being 100x up was highest peak anyone can ever feel, i simply cant catch that high anymore
>>292027513>You will never feel anything after feeling the high from being up,Dragon Quest does a really, really good job with its casinos of simulating the sense that you've won something significant and exclusive that you probably didn't expect to and gives you that full on high when that happens. You can tell this stuff was designed by a dude who honestly loves gambling, but wants other people to be able to experience that in a safe way that doesn't force them to risk their actual money.It's a very dopamine based kind of high though that's dwarfed by the pleasure of things that are capable of providing full immersion.
>>292027630Now I understand why the horse-race gambling rabbit spends her time in the DQ casino (even offstream) kekDopamine is dangerous. Be wary and don't end up like Kurumi-chan!
>>292027566Sounds like a bit of a humblebrag desu. I'll be going out on a limb and say that sacrifing your appreciation for the simple pleasures in life was well worth gaining financial independence for the rest of your life.
>>292027630pokemon's casinos also did the same thing, too bad faggot PTAs complained and they stopped putting them in the games
>>292027734who said anything about financial independence
>>292027944I mean, if you were 100x up, then even just putting down 100 bucks would've netted you 10k, no? You made it sound like you'd have thrown in more than that, because I'm not sure I would feel a great high from having put down a measly 100 bucks, rather than feeling regret of not having invested even more into such a unique opportunity.
>>292027630>Dragon Quest does a really, really good job with its casinosSave and quit is king, like with most gambling minigames.
>>29202804710k is nothing and by nothing i mean literally nothing
>>292016814Dragging the market is fine, if you have time, well-structured bets and most importantly, the conviction that you'll be right eventuallyI have all three, so I'm not that upset.
>>292028162It's seed capital to get the ball rolling for greater gainz.
>>292028162nta, but maybe for you.It's a lot to me.
>>292027392>2000x leverage
>>292019597>How much profit can you realistically see in a market?It's about 10%, if you can average 12% you're ready for a job at the big leagues. If you get more across a long time horizon, you're God.But an annualized 10% is already a really good number.>>292020041No, if you want to do it the "proper way", you want to make well-structured, diverse bets and then just forget about them until you need the money or you have a big unrealized gain which you can harvest and into safe harbor assets (this is why you want diversity) or you just do nothing. It's always an option. Just do nothing.
>>292025265just liquidate when you need some money, or better yet, borrow against your assets.
>>292028347>tiny bonus passive incomeThat's so disappointing. I thought "you need to have money to make money" meant the rich at least were multiplying their money, not slowly compounding it.>>292028766Like a glorified savings account?
>>292028240At 100 dollars you are controlling a position of 200k and facing 0.05% margin for error. Entirely depends on luck and automated orders closing it within micro seconds. Better start living on Wallstreet.
>>292028839This is averages across many years, of course you can cash out big on big plays, but you don't want too much exposure to that sort of thing, lest you end up like our intrepid heroine.Another thing that may be counterintuitive about portfolio management that sort of explains these average gains that feel fairly low is that you generally don't want all your fundamentally sound assets moving in the same direction at the same time for the same reasons.Of course, how defensive you want to be is up to your risk tolerance and how much you feel like doing this shit as a side job. The more risk you have, the more you'll need to babysit your portfolio.
>>292029121Honestly, it seems like Kurumi would've been fine if she quit with modest winnings or took out a portion of it while leaving some left. Maybe that'd still be too much micromanagement for me, not sure. I probably need my own experience to draw conclusions beyond these explanations.
>>292029247Kurumi's results are actually quite stellar. Like she had (anime spoiler) 18 millions to her name. Still a dangerous and degenerate endeavor but I guess it might work for some.
>>292029247>Kurumi would've been fine if she quit with modest winnings It's very easy to be greedy, don't underestimate the siren song of unrealized gains. You might not recognize yourself if you find yourself with a big green +XX% next to your position.>I probably need my own experienceIf you do decide to play, remember the #1 rule:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhUnEg0he4A&t=47s
>>292029247>Kurumi would've been fine if she quit with modest winningsI've already posted this guy before >>292023661Here(timestamp included) he explains exactly this:https://youtu.be/1UY0uS6Z6oE?t=128
>>292029711funny how that guy ended up blowing a million dollars on polymarket
>>292029711Reminder that you can trade options without being a degenerate
what the fuck is wrong with this guy
>>292030620NO CRYING IN THE CASINO
>>292030620I know the song he's referencinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCp2iXA1uLE
>>292030541funny how the guy got blown up exactly the way everyone in retail blows up
>>291992295>Purple best traderPink will surpass her when she activates ultra greedstinct
>>292030541>>292030833qrd?
>>292031077Pink's arguably better at day to day trading
>>292030620Where does this guy even get the money he keeps squandering?
>>292031224>250000 JPY that's like 1.5 grand
>>292031164>guy finds out he likes gambling more than he likes having money
>>292029355>>292029711I could be a naive retard but I'm pretty confident about my self-control if nothing else. Setting aside a certain amount of profits as a safety net and setting a cap on how much you could possibly see in gains before forcing yourself out seems like a foolproof strategy for risky bets.
>>292031349>I could be a naive retard but I'm pretty confident about my self-control if nothing elseYou can substitute ETFs with alcohol or heroin.And yes, it's actually true for some people.
>>292031164he tried to do market making for polymarket during the elections, which was actually easy money because polymarket is full of low information traders(retards), but he took on too much risk and something he didn't anticipate happened (I'm guessing some huge ass volatility spike in one direction) and he lost it all. later he tried to short small cap stocks, which is also a high winrate because a large spike upwards almost always comes back down, which means can keep adding on top of your shorts at each level while waiting for it to come back down... until that one time it doesn't and you lose it all on a short squeeze.
Caught up with It after seeing a thread about this anime few weeks ago. I do like the MC and how she isnt that likeable, but the rest of the main cast is kinda boring so far. I'm not a /biz/ cuck so I have no Idea how they figure it out if the coin is gonna go up or down besides literally just guessing.
>>292031654>I'm not a /biz/ cuck so I have no Idea how they figure it out if the coin is gonna go up or down besides literally just guessingyou're as good as the rest of us.Line go up today? Line go down today?Just guess!
>>292031271What's his monthly income as a small time manga writer after rent and other fixed expenses?
What's even the point of FX trading? I get stocks. You buy a share of a company because you want to take part in its success and the company gets some money from you, enabling them to acquire new gear or hire new people or whatever. So it's win-win if you guess correctly which company has a good business model and capital will be drawn to wherever it can be put to use most productively. But FX seems like people are literally just juggling funny numbers in the hopes of ripping off other people who do the same. Does it have any real world benefit whatsoever or is it really just scammers scamming scammers?
>>292032082Seems like it's just the same as Polymarket or horse racing. Well, from the perspective of the traders. When it comes to actual countries doing trading then they'll trade currency naturally according to their needs, but the gamblers using brokers and leverage are just gambling, right?
>>292032082you're punishing countries irresponsible with their own money.
>>292028839>That's so disappointing. I thought "you need to have money to make money" meant the rich at least were multiplying their money, not slowly compounding it.You seem to miss-understand. Most mature bushinesses are stuck making 5% profit. 10% interest is actually VERY good.You think that is too low, but in fact many scams deliberately offer 15-20% interest because they know only idiots would sign up. Another possible reason you think it is too low is you might be comparing it to credit card debt (30%) or payday loans (1000%). But that's just it; neither credit card companies nor payday loans expect you to pay the full amount. They instead want you to be stuck extending the loan forever and pay everything you have for the rest of your working life. They are not REALLY expecting you to pay that interest rate off.If you want to sell your soul, work at a payday lender. Apparently they actually pay their employees well as people get attacks of conscience and quit. Watching people destroy themselves because of you is its own hell.
>>292032638I think it's too low because the mega rich throw around billions like nothing. I expected them to be making more billions rather than hundreds of millions at a time.
>>292031569bizbros always use a ton of technical and sophisticated terminology, but the reality is simple>I'm a genius!>oh no
>>292033256billions aren't real anon
>>292032082>seems like people are literally just juggling funny numbers in the hopes of ripping off other people who do the sameThat's any form of trading for you, even in markets with "good business model company"You win if you take the money from the loser first, that's the whole game wani bro
>>292033256>I think it's too low because the mega rich throw around billions like nothing. I expected them to be making more billions rather than hundreds of millions at a time.10% of 10 billion is 1 billion. A human doesn't actually need that much money to live, so when you are a billionaire nearly all that you earn gets saved. In fact as a billionaire you run out of things to buy. 10% interest is huge, but you couldn't see it that way because you view it from a smaller bank account. 10% interest from 1 million dollars is enough to keep an adult human alive comfortably indefinitely. 10% interest of a billion dollars means you double your money every 7 years or so. In reality that doesn't work because you run out of things to buy. Elon is forced to build rockets and sell internet and cellphone plans because there was nowhere else to park the money. Remember that interest rates only work when someone else EARNS that money. That is why there is a maximum cap that a bank would take your savings before they refuse to give you interests on it.
>>292034627>you double your money every 7 years or soOkay, now I see the issue. I was thinking of profit compared to the original investment rather than interest which can compound.>Remember that interest rates only work when someone else EARNS that money.I'm actually not sure how interest works outside the context of a bank/loan.
>>292032082As designed, the FX market is just a way to transform one currency into another. Pools of money are on the market available to buy and sell at any price. The exchange rate you see is the price the market has agreed on. Any time you need to convert your currency for travel you're utilizing this market.Governments and big firms participate to keep the gears of society running, transforming their currency into other currencies to buy goods and services in other countries. For example most government have some reserve of US dollars on hand. A lot of it from holding US gov bonds which pay interest in USD and they'll sell this on the market as needed for their machinations.FX retail however, is exactly as you describe. The broker gives you control of a huge amount of currency via leverage so you can profit off of a few cents of movement. In exchange they get a commission/fee.Trading creates price discovery and liquidity. Basically buyers and sellers are in a war and the current price is the current battleground.The consumer and government benefit because they can just jump in and convert quickly without a fuss.
>>292034739>I'm actually not sure how interest works outside the context of a bank/loan.When you get a loan, you pay interest. That payment is what gets used to pay the savers who have money in the bank.But there is only so many loans a bank can give out. The number of people asking for a loan is finite. And out of everyone asking many are not trusted to pay it back and get rejected. So if the bank has TOO MUCH in savings accounts, they wouldn't be able to loan out the money enough to balance the books. Banks call it a "cash flood". They can refuse to take your deposit if they can't expect to be able to loan it out.
>>292034867So rich business owners are making their money through the bank model rather than any markets and that's the main way they siphon off money from the rest of the population?
>>292034957>So rich business owners are making their money through the bank model rather than any markets and that's the main way they siphon off money from the rest of the population?Actually no, as I said the really rich people just run businesses because they can't put billions in a bank.The 10% yearly from index funds is what average joes like us can use to make money safely. But it only become serious money if you push it past a threshold. it is the only safe way we know to earn it. invest + time.
>>292035037Where does their interest come from then? The people who lose their money to the market?
>>292035175The real answer is nothing. It literally comes out from nowhere. The "interest" from an index fund is an estimate based on the people's trust in the economy, and arbitrage as you buy it early and sell it later.The money itself due to the increasing valuation of index funds also technically appears out of nowhere. Valuation increases if very little / no one wants to sell at a lower price, with only price discovery to determine the "worth" of index funds. For example, if you're the only person with golden apples in the neighborhood you can charge whatever the hell you want. $5 -> $1000. However it's the market that determines if $1000 is worth paying for your apple.
>>292035175>>292036016Same anon explaining interest from banks. It's also smoke and mirrors, but the competition isn't just you but also other financial instruments that charge interest. Let's say you want to deposit $1 to a bank. The bank could lower its interest to 0% cus you are a lazy mofo, but if you see that you'll just go to another bank. But let's say the bank offered a magic number like 100% per annum. Now that's diff. Banks will get too much capital for too much risk. Plus they have to pay that interest out at some point. They'll never be able to pay your interest out without doing Yazuka-style loan sharking which is illegal. At most they can loan out maybe 40% through CCs from people whose profiles are questionable. So therefore they'll lower the interest to match their expenses until you see the number you see on most bank offerings. There's other factors like credibility and liquidity but eh...
>>292036016>>292036238So all their money is theoretical until they sell and take a buyer's money? And banks don't have a store of their own money to help deter cash floods or whatever else could go wrong?
>>292036768Nope, the central bank takes care of the actual cash for a cost in cases of bank runs. For bank floods, you can successfully blame AI bubble for why it hasn't been an issue for a while. Even the payouts from interest are all just numbers on a system somewhere. The bank in reality literally just adds a number to an account the same way you do on an Excel spreadsheet and it's only balanced out by govt mandates for bookkeeping accounting records, especially in the case of a bank collapse.Previously banks used fractional reserve banking to ensure they don't just loan out everything, but nowadays due to the immense speed of transactions required for modern finance (FX is literally in real-time), it's been changed to a "capital" based bookkeeping approach where a bank just has to have a "certain amount of capital" (typically in govt bonds or even real estate or gold or bonds from other banks) in order to avail of central bank services and certification. The best part is since those themselves only have perceived value banks also even game that restriction.
>>292037391I don't completely understand all of that but it sounds really fucking bad if both banks and funds are simply recording numbers. One catastrophe would break the whole economic framework.
>>292037444Part of the reason 2008 happened is because banks held onto bad mortgage bonds and bad insurance papers. All of a sudden banks that held alot of those suddenly had no capital for liquidity and thus bankruptcy. Cue a cascade of capital loss from diff banks whose capital was exposed to the banks exposed from the source and you get a typical modern financial crisis.So yes the only reason everything is holding up right now is because everyone perceives stuff has value and somewhere out there are accountants ensuring that the numbers make sense for their operations.
>>292008257Sexiest creature of the season
>>292031654Normally you can somewhat predict in which direction the line will trend by looking at the underlying macro-economic factors, but since you are on leverage, you do short term trading where you depend on risk mitigation, searching for liquidity and praying for the universe to be on your side.The girls trade based on unreliable pattern recognition and gut feeling.
>>292037914It's clearly somewhat reliable based on empirical evidence so far. The problem is that it's not 100%, which means 1 failed trade = debt hell.
https://gaitame.pro/page/static?p=fxkurumi_collab_ep5&xcolumn_id=382it's a legit article tutorial on how to trade FX lmao
>>292038532I wish that was my curriculum when i was 9
>>292038532Did Umamusume sucker newcomers into betting on horse races? I wonder if there is precedent for anime to represent a legitimate public welfare hazard by luring people to engage in self destructive behavior.
>>292038532I can't scroll down. And why the fuck would you want to teach people that shit?
>>292039389The author needs more free liquidity on the market to hunt down and immediately lose. Making money is not the point anyway, it's all about the brain requiring another overdose on it's own chemicals.
>>292039389it's entertaining af if people lose money on something they really should have no business dabbling on without proper research.
>>292038532Was really curious what the article is so I downloaded the app and viewed the article. You needed to dl the app in JP and do an entire indoctrination routine to get you to have a taste of victory that will never really happen, since I'm yellowtard, the worst kind.Now if only I could understand moon runes... but from small bits and pieces they seem to tell you stuff about Take Profit and maybe Trailing Stops...?
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>>292040264Last page, possibly something about volatile charts vs stable ones, maybe...?
>>292040246Just give it to gemini and it should TL it.
kino...
>>292040819Is this AI? The pupils make me suspect shenanigans.
>>292041108It's clearly AI garbage.
>>292031569>easy money>something he didn't anticipateif it's easy money, but some bad luck could wipe you out, then it's not easy money.
Demunyan already lost the Kurumi challenge he started yesterday. started with 300k yen.
>>292041771Not gambling btw
>>292041779What currency pair was he trading on?USD/JPY?
>>292040819Nice
>>292041906I don't really see anything else from the author. I've seen CHF/JPY and USD/JPY tho in his feed so maybe it's that.
>>292042411Looking at each graph, it's probably USD/JPY.He shorted it and the market went up just to fuck over him...
>>292041779>personally writes about the downfall of retarded girls who just don't know when to fucking quit as a cautionary tale>"what if I participated in the challange that my retarded characters are doing and which will inevitably lead to disaster for them? teehee"This is almost too silly to be true. Is he actually a woman? How else do you explain it?
>>292042809>How else do you explain it?it's not a cautionary tale, he's an alcoholic trying to process his alcoholism by writing stories about itclearly he hasn't quite beaten his addiction just yet
>>292042809You've reversed the order. He's a gambling retard and lost money/brain cells like that so he's writing about it. It's interesting.
>>292042809Addiction literally rewires your brain. It's not even about money anymore, he's just chasing the high of victory even when he rationally knows that it will most likely lead to a ruin.
>>292041771>if it's easy money, but some bad luck could wipe you out,The thing with market making is you correctly size your position, so even if huge movements happen then you don't lose much. It's all algorithmic based. He must've done something really stupid out of greed. If you play it smart and find the right market you can make a few thousand dollars per month even on a cheap setup.
>>292041108It's AI alright.Kurumi already has a retarded hairstyle. No need to complicate it more.
bump
If it wasn't for the voice actress of Kurumi, I would have dropped this anime already. I wonder if she learned some trading through this role.All characters are fucking unreedemable.
why is this thread still alive? it's almost thursday again, sheesh.
>>292047111>triggered that characters are bad people
If only I had shorted everything now.
this anime is just so erotic...
>>292047571Then you would trigger an instant rally
just short the thread already
>>292048074You're just a ryona enjoyer.
>>292048232I just long...
$ ¥ €
>>292051272I don't see it
>>292051272Pube Goddess.
>>292042809see >>292031326
>>292011551Komaro is FOTM that'll be forgotten in 3 months time. Kurumi is going to have staying power for many years. He's playing the long game.
>>292047237This is like the fourth thread
my dumbass girlfriend
>>292052725>her trying to figure out what to do with your peepee
bros, mebuki breaks me heart I don't think I'm gonna make it to the end if things go bad for her...
>>292052725I want to creampie her so badly
>>292052997yeah haha.
>>292054039it's a drawingnot a person
>>292054464I don't believe you
>>292044696>If you play it smart and find the right market you can make a few thousand dollars per month even on a cheap setupAny anons looking to quit their day job or trying to earn some easy extra money as NEETs should take this man's word to heart. You don't need to waste your life on a 9-to-5 and/or stay poor. Just be prudent, do your research and don't fall into the thrill seeking gambler mindset and you'll do better than any honest work would ever allow you. Honest work is for suckers.
>>292044696>>292055462So you're telling me polymarket isn't a meme as long as you keep up with current events?
>>292055551Yes. Just don't use the site to bet on sporting events.
>>292055682what about horseracing
>>292055551trading around events is one strategy, although not always a good one. if you have a good bullshit detector for when things are being manipulated then you could try it. but the most important part is understanding how markets work and risk management so you don't blow up in a few losing trades. even better if you can find an edge, ask AI to build an algorithm to automate your trades, and then you can sit back and watch the money flow in with zero effort.
is all this brilliant advice about FX? or stocks?because as I understand it, these are very different beasts
>>292055462>do your researchYeah bro, about that haha...
stop necrobumpinglet the thread die already
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