>Fight and get a massacred by Luca>Or surrender and get massacred by Luca anywayDid Jowy really believe Muse will be spared if they surrendered?
>Best girl (and voice) gets killed offFucking FUMING.I know this is based on a game series but some of the events used to drive player action to advance the plot really don't work in the anime setting.
>>292050061>Did Jowy really believe Muse will be spared if they surrendered?Slaughtering those that surrender is generally a stupid idea because it means that future battles will be that much harder.Once people recognize you for someone who does this, they will struggle that much harder.Of course, in anime, it makes no difference, so w/e.
>this entire episodeI'm out, lads.
>Shu for next episode titleWhat. Does Neclord not exist on the anime timeline or they are just rearranging the event order?
>>292050342No way they'd cut SierraShe's a fan favorite
>>292050386The order in the game after this episode is cross the lake, go to South Window, sword fetch quest, fight Neclord in North Window then meet Shu. It's impossible to do in 1 episode unless they do a rushed montage or change the event order.
So in the game Jowy leaves the party?
>>292050830Yeah, he permanently leaves the party for the rest of the game.He does rejoin you way later for a single boss fight before leaving again.
The anime spoiled his betrayal. In the game we don't know what happened when he took too long to come back and then it's a shock when we see the murder.
>>292050199You have to remember, that's effectively what Luca wants
>>292050342>>292050386Director made it clear that would be impossible to show all 108 characters. For now, I would say that if your favorite character isn't in the ED, forget about it. Neclord is a huge side quest, it's unfortunate but I can see why they would have to cut it.
Is this true?>>292051560The main base (North Window) was originally occupied by Neclord in the game so it should be part of main story desu. To be fair, the ED also shows Kinnison and Shiro which are skipped in the anime so far.
>>292051560It's not like I'd expect them to include EVERYONE, especially the less plot essential characters and shopkeepers and the like, but I'd like to think they'd at least focus on the plot essential ones. You can skip Hix and Tengaar's bullshit but Neclord was kind of a big deal.
>>292051450Another change is in the game, Jess suspected MC and Nanami are the one which killed Annabelle.
>>292051644I imagine it will be a lot like the 3 Manga were most of the recruit characters will probably cameo in crowd shots and battles.
>>292051560>Director-san, we don't have enough episodes to cover both the Tinto arc and the mindlessly walking around collecting squirrels arc. Which should we add?
>>292051680Unironically, Hix and Tengaar are there in the ED.
>>292051644I see what you did there, Konami.
>>292051751>>292051560If I thought better of this anime I'd say it'd be pretty cool if they add more stars to the collage as the show goes on.
>>292051816Cour 2, maybe.
>>292051718Jess did suspect them for a single second
>>292052057Not until Tinto like the game. I wonder how this will change future stuff.
>>292050061Jowy is so retarded holy shit. Fuck this traitor!
>>292053314He is basically the worst person ever and we had a very long discussion on why the bad ending is superior.
>>292054347Worse than Snowe?
>>292050061is jowy the original suzaku??
>>292054347and the asshole gets to fuck prime royalty pussy...
Is this suikoden 1 or 2? None of it looks familiar
>>292050931so he is still included in the 108?
>>292055147It's 2
>>292054406You know, what? Yes. He is worse than Snowe. Suikoden 4 doesn't do a lot right but Snowe was actually a much better written character with much better consequences that don't undermine your own growth.
To be fair, Jowy's actions and motives feel more nuanced in the eyes of the player of the game, even if he fucked up with this betrayal.The anime having to spell everything to the audience makes it look even worse.>>292055305I strongly disagree specially with the well written part but I'm too tired to get into an argument about traitors right now.
>>292055185No, he's not a Star of Destiny.
Was the old guy's face pressed up against the gate (which then got heemed by the battering ram) a playable character?Don't recall him from any other scenes and had to double check it wasn't the leader of the youth brigade being drawn on the wrong side.
>>292055094Was wondering why he didn't double cross Luca but fully understand now.
>>292055575Yes, that was Rikimaru, he's one of the earliest character you can recruit in the game, you recruit him by paying his debt at the restaurant.The anime did show him earlier, but he wasn't officially recruited, guess he just joined up off screen.
>>292055230I mostly just played Suikoden 1
>>292051680Yeah, Neclord is needed for Tinto to join, in addition to giving Riou and Nanami a big character moment if they do the alternate route and having fan favorite SierraYou lose more than you gain by cutting out Neclord
>>292055680Oh. I'm aware of Rikimaru but thought it was someone completely different. Have deleted the episode so can't double check.
>>292055844
>>292055680He joined right after Ryube was attacked
>>292055884Thanks. Yeah, that's pretty obvious.For whatever reason on watching I thought his clothes were silver armour.>Different armour>No helmet>= Must be a character you can recruit
>>292055680>he's one of the earliest character you can recruit in the gameI loved the crackpot theories about him being a Silverberg back then. Those were good times.
>>292050542>No mention of Neclord in North Window next episode
While I like Suikoden, I kinda wish that we did the first game and then the second game.
>>292055404>To be fair, Jowy's actions and motives feel more nuanced in the eyes of the player of the gameNo they don't. He just gives a bunch of shallow justifications blaming stuff we never see. And this isn't the last of the stunts he pulls. The only people who like Jowy are nostalgia blind BL loving faggots blinded by his true rune of edgeiness
>>292051816Find Jowy and Pohl in that picture.You can't.Yet Pilika is looking at where they were supposed to be.
they better not skip neclord
>adults handing life & death decisions to childrenIs the game as retarded as this anime? Isn't the game supposed to be a classic? Or it didn't age well?
The only memorable moment I had from this game.Not going to happen right?
>>292057464>He didn't bring Kasumi to met McDohl
>Rune Shield disables everyone in a wide areaSo why didn't they slit the throat of everyone that was knocked out and then rinse repeat as more soldiers came in?
>>292057659Luca could easily tank it and solo the remaining city states soldiers.He's that powerful.
>>292057659in the game runes were limited use per rest kinda like D&D spellsthat said also >>292057705 this
>>292057175>Pohl in that picture.Honestly I'm surprised he even got that much. The game was very quick to just completely ignore him after he got violently murdered.
>>292057540TcDohl you mean
>>292050386I didn't see her in the ending so I'm fearing the worst. Sierra is my favorite too and I didn't drop it because I still hope she will be there at some point
>>292050061The anime isn't doing the game justice. Suikoden 2 is one of the greatest of all times.
>>292050931>>292050830If you get all 108 stars and do everything correctly, you get the ending where you can refuse to attack him back and he gives up and you, your sister, and Jowy just leave politics to live together. I'm assuming that's the canonical ending of the anime.
still have the HD collection stored, yet to be played.is the game as shit as this anime? not liking this anime so far.
>>292058058The game is much better. If you were a fan of the game you'd probably be madder.
