What causes this?
>>292123197Moral Hypocrites.
>>292123197Good taste
Fujos actually spend money
Women read more than men.
There are more straight females (they want to see men being sensual) than there are MtF trannies.
Yaoi is just braindead porn for women while yuri is a thinking man's genre.
>>292123277then why doesn't it sale
>>292123197https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/LPIZvdc-_VeOcAu13VyD2w/>Mom look I posted it againWhat causes OP to be a literal faggot?
>>292123197Men want to fuck, women want to be fucked, gays can fuck, lesbians cannot.
>>292123197Women buy books more. Women read romance more.
>>292123197real?
Women are boring.Two women are even more boring.Only men make for good stories.
>>292123197Consumers and creators prefer light yuri and shipping. This should be obvious if you have more than a year's worth of experience.
>>292123197Women and their lack of self control make them the perfect cattle to exploit for monetary gains
>>292123197You ever think we're caught in a time loop?
>>292123306>demographic group>mangahuh?
>posted again reward
>>292123197Epstein's death.
>>292123197women think they're too good for men so they read this garbage
women are far and away more perverted then men
>>292123197saint seiya
>>292123197Meanwhile it’s the opposite for anime so I think it evens out in the end, you yuritroons have no right to complain when you took over the Magical Girl genre and pushed us fujos out thanks to your Lord and Savior Naoko Takeuchi.
>>292123247>Moral Hypocrites.Don’t act like yuritroons aren’t just as disgusted by yaoi and uphold the double standard of lesbians being hot and okay but gay men are icky.
>>292123197both genres are thrash, but men who like yuri enough to buy it, have mental issues and the other group of men who like it are gooners.
>>292131181>but men who like yuri enough to buy it, have mental issues and the other group of men who like it are gooners.Does this apply to women and yaoi too?
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/LPIZvdc-_VeOcAu13VyD2w/
>>292123197women
>>292131862So what makes some women like Naoko Takeuchi hate yaoi and become a yuritroon then?
>>292124495>lesbians can’t fuckTransbians though?
>>292124436The Research Club told me I might find you here FAFA.
Hilarious, this is a comparison of the yuri session of a japanese store in 2024 and in 2025 when they had to increase it because sales have increased to the point where they can't afford not to.>But BL is still much biggerYes as it should be, it's many decades older than yuri which only exists for 20 or so years as commercial product and just more inherently popular with it's target audience than yuri is with it's own target audience.>But other genres are also still bigger than yuriCorrect, however the overlap between the yuri audience and all those other genres is not that big, meaning stores and the industry have no choice but to keep pandering to us if they want our money, yuri has grew to a point where they just can't ignore us anymore. While you fags keep making childish comparisons like this the following is happening>We now have a yuri work announced almost every day because Watanare can't stop selling merch, not even most popular romcom have as many merch runs as Watanare had in this last year>Green manga is not only charting due to how much it's selling, but Green anime is going to be big, just the trailer already has around 10 million views, it's going to prove that yuri not only has otaku money, it can grab the mainstream audience too and from there you will see what an yuri explosion really looks like.>Yuri light novels went from being borderline non existent 5 years ago to having dedicated lines and new works being announced all the time>Your romcom or fantasy authors? They are doing yuri manga now see pic related, a few works all from authors that didn't start with yuri (or BL).So enjoy your silly threads, because when you weren't looking, yuri started getting bigger and next season you only hear about it, worse for you if even Murcielago also manages to get attention, but Green will be everywhere.
>>292133534Sorry forgot the store pic.
>>292123197There was a big drama recently about hypocrisy where people pointed out Yaoi was allowed to be put next to children's section while anything else NSFW like majority of Yuri needed to be put into a separate 18+ room in Japanese stores
>>292123197>men>romanceIt's a foid genre.
>>292133593Like 5% of yuri would be considered R-18, even stuff like Asumi chan is interested in lesbian brothels is not and it's just girls fucking every volume. The complaint you are talking about is just about how censorship is centered around how women are portrayed in fiction and how the same standards don't apply to how men are portrayed in BL.
>>292133661he's talking about actual yuri, not yuribait
>>292123197Yuri doesn't filter men so its able to flourish in all sorts of things while yaoi is pushed into only really being able to be in books. Recently there's been an effort to push down yaoi further by using censorship, spamming credit card companies and bookstores. "Bl fire" iirc.
>>292133593Seems pretty stupid to me desu, rocking the boat too much will lead to censoring everything.
>>292131110gay men are ickysorry not sorry
>>292133721Sorry anon, but look at the romance yuri titles actually sold in stores, none of the titles here are R-18, even though some have nipples our or sex.
>>292123197Women don't self-insert in yuri, it's primarily just a men's genre.Meanwhile, men can self-insert in yaoi and women love to ship men. Yaoi appeals to both.
>>292123197women suck with money
>>292134004The only two types of BL which have a male demographic are Bara and traps, both which women ironically hate.
>>292123197women who write about gay guys getting raped are widely praised for how brave and bold and progressive they aremen who write about lesbians are accused of sexualizing the characters for their personal enjoyment rather than the enjoyment of lesbian readersqueer (out) authors are rare
>>292134004Men into bl are rare, there's like one male author but his works do alright. I believe its an odd shared passion for delinquents.
>>292133995I have Adashima rip-off fatigue.
>>292134082Anon this is not the yuri thread, it's thread to humiliate people who don't like yuri, more attention please.
>>292134066Like 20% of yuri authors are guys and often some of the most popular authors.
>>292133534>Green will be everywhereA whole lot of lesbian zoomers are about to discover for the first time why their dads/grandpas are so into rock and roll. That series is going to be fucking huge. Gonna hit those baby dykes like crack hit niggers in the 80's.
>>292123197clearly children are the ones reading yuri
>>292134140They did the only fix they needed to do, which was the terrible manga artwork, make the girls look cute and there you go.
>>292123197Women are extremely consumeristalso it's porn for them they don't need such explicitly sexual imageryas men do.
>>292128508more narrower tastes though, but they go very deep into those tastes
>>292134230"Men watch their porn and read their romance, women watch their romance and read their porn" is the saying, I believe. Obviously there's a bit of a motor ground with R18 doujin, but it really just indicates that men like visual imagery with their smut whereas women couldn't care less.
>>292133534This post is insane cope. Your demographics is limited to few digit single percentage. But I assume being a male fan guarantees terminally online people who thinks it's far bigger than it is.
>>292134302Yuri is still pretty niche, but to say it's not growing and that some series aren't beginning to break into the mainstream anime and manga zeitgeist is just flat out ignorant. I just wish the series responsible for it were something better than fucking Watanare of all things.
>>292123306So Murcielago and YuruYuri volumes easily cross that 122k line together so it is a bit stupid chart cause it would mean all other titles don't sell anything.
>>292134302Anon, you don't seem to understand how money works, it doesn't matter if the yuri audience is on the single digits as long the money it generates don't overlap with other things, it means the industry cannot reach this consumer unless they produce yuri works, you are not a fan of yuri so you don't understand how much things changed in the last years, this very year shonen magazines that never published yuri started doing so, all because of how much money Watanare is making, money they can't reach no matter how many romcoms they make.
>>292134358It's because charts like this only consider yuri basically what Yuri Hime publishes.
>>292123197There's Yuri and then there's Yuri subtext. I dont even think yaoi has much subtext in all male shows, its usually out and out gay as fuck or not at all.
>>292134196Too bad it will forgotten pretty soon. The girls are not exactly that cute and it doesn't really have the erotica aspect. Best you can do is get bloom into you anime scenario but mainstream anime community interest would be limited.
>>292134370People forget that fucking Yagakimi, the defining yuri work of the 2010's alongside Citrus, was a shounen manga.
>>292134392It's going to have a massive marketing budget so it will be big.
>>292134402And a licensed soundtrack that will appeal massively to millennial fans who don't give a flying fuck about yuri but love good music.
>>292134396It's not so much that they forget, the people making charts like this probably struggle with definition issues and you just gave the perfect example, is yagakimi a yuri title or a shonen title?
>>292134396And many other yuri works which sell well like Murcielago for around 80k to 130k per volume runs monthly in seinen one.
>>292123197it's because people want you to stay on >>>/u/
>>292131110>Don’t act like yuritroons aren’t just as disgusted by yaoi and uphold the double standard of lesbians being hot and okay but gay men are icky.This is Naoko Takeuchi by the way.
>>292134412Nah it just means people count works running in yuri magazines and that is basically YH sales but clearly without YuruYuri manga cause it sales are better than what was mentioned there all together around 165k to 180k per volume.
>>292134362Anon series like MahoAko will always be exception because that captures general straight male interest. Your average yuri slop will still be limited to your own limited community and revenue.>no matter how many romcoms they make.Please keep your delusional bias to yourself. Those are quite fine.
>>292134412>is yagakimi a yuri title or a shonen title?It's both, and should reasonably categorized as such. Those charts need to account for that kind of crossover to not be misleading. A lot of (most?) BL is josei, for instance.
>>292124436>calling someone a faggot with an anime girl gif
>>292134411There will be nirvana meme but then it pops and nothing more to dicuss. Shouldn't assume marketing stunt is everything.
>>292123197>This thread for the six gorillionth timeThis site's traffic is 70% bots at a minimum
>>292134440>>292134444Those charts are just meant to categorize publishing and not genres, it's not made fans but by people doing market research, a battle shonen published in a josei magazine is still going to fall under josei not shonen.
>>292123197Because dykedshit is boring.
>>292134066>women who write about gay guys getting raped are widely praised for how brave and bold and progressive they aremen who write about lesbians are accused of sexualizing the characters for their personal enjoyment rather than the enjoyment of lesbian readerslol, lmao even. Fujos get told all the time that them preferring yaoi over yuri makes them misogynistic and that they’re fetishizing gay men.
>>292134469But hey it is going to have lots of tumblrinas in the community so you can share room with them.
>>292134469If you don't think that anime is going to be absolutely riddled with American rock music then you're delusional. It's backed by Universal Music. They have the rights to a fuckton of music that they can use at their discretion, and they will most definitely be doing so. The Nirvana OP is just the start.
>>292134441Read again, the whole point is not to say romcoms are not doing well, just that you won't get the watanare merch money by making romcoms and this is the point of the post, yuri is growing and you can tell this by the sheer amount of titles being published every year, the only way to get the yuri money is by making yuri.
>>292134489Not a single japanese person says any of those, you are talking about twitter troons and this is embarassing for both of you.
The main difference between yuri and BL demographics is that BL is a niche but it's big enough to sustain itself while yuri needs to appeal wider or they'll never hit the 10k axe sales line. Usually it means moe (yuruyuri) or eroticism (mahoako) or the rare gimmick like green. Even the Watanare author talked about this, he managed to get the romcom audience that buy a shit ton of waifu character merch.
>>292134485Sounds like shoddy fucking market research. Conflating a magazine like Dengeki Daioh with WSJ/M/S/C just because it's a shounen magazine is retarded and shortsighted.
>>292134515If you just look at all the yuri that got anime in the last years you easily see this isn't true.
>>292134512I'm fucking embarrassed by the amount of newfags on /a/ who think that western Tumblr/Twitter culture are in any way indicative of actual fujoshi culture. Japanese fujos fucking hate those people.
>>292123197Sup OP?
>>292134452>Antiyurifag is a GocuckfagEmbarrassing
>>292134437Meanwhile despite giving the middle finger to yuritroons by constantly cucking their lesbian characters the CLAMP fujos still aren’t so spiteful as to completely erase lesbians from existence the way a yuritroon like Naoko Takeuchi does with gay men.
>>292134504And you think I'm not talking about that. >dude it has rock and roll etc watch my showYeah meme shit then it's gone.
>>292134528Getting more anime means the money and attention is spread out more.
>>292134634The rock and roll will pull in a wider audience than series of its kind typically do. Then they'll keep watching because it's good. I look forward to seeing you proven wrong in a few months when the series is extremely successful.
>>292134647Keep the cope to yourself if you think its fanbase will be wider because of musicals. Nope it will be you guys and tumblr.
>>292123197Women buy.Men pirate.Sellers like people who buy.
>>292134605Did a lesbian couple kill your dog?
>>292134645Yes of course but the point is, there are plenty of yuri ecchi and yuri CGDCT and those are not the ones being adapted.
>>292134605Lots of yuri works feature gay men, you even have works that are both BL and Yuri with the girl and guy helping each other get with their own
>>292123306Yikes no wonder so many women write boys manga. I always wondered why they did that.
>>292134757Nigger Murcielago is getting adapted.
>>292134319They are cute together.
>>292134795It feels almost like shoujo got sabotaged into irrevalancy, going from its peak to now
>>292131110>aren’t just as disgusted by yaoi and uphold the double standard of lesbians being hot and okay but gay men are ickyThats a good thing though.
>>292131647>>292124436>>292126839Forgive OP. He got cucked by a dyke in real life. Just r3port the thread for spam/flood
>>292134821Non-shoujo publishers actually try to appeal to the female demographic these days. It isn't that shoujo is dying, and more that the kind of stories that it tells aren't isolated to shoujo magazines anymore. Blue Box is a good example. It was just a shoujo romance masquerading as spokon, told from the perspective of the male lead. And the female audience fucking loved it. Kaoruhana is another.
>>292134821>sabotaged into irrevalancywhat would that even mean?
>>292134848>Chidori High School, a bottom-feeder boys' school where idiots gather, and Kikyo Girls' School, a well-established girls' school.oh wow this trope again
>>292123197We live in a matriarchy
>>292134875
>>292123197It's a mystery
>>292134873Shoujo used to be more than just vanilla teen romance, horror and drama used to be big aspects of the genre. Going from year 24 group manga to what's there now, the difference is quite stark.
>>292134875Women wearing men's wedding suits look fucking dumb. Why don't they just wear dresses for gay marriage as well? Is it really mandatory for one to be the "masc" in a lesbian wedding?I mean, gay dudes who got married both wore suits. It would look ridiculous if the 2nd dude wore a frilly wedding dress because he's supposed to be the bottom one.
>>292134889Funnily enough that's not even focused on much outside of the earlier parts of the manga. Which if anything is an indictment against it, because it was at least a source of drama. But Kaoruhana is saccharine as fuck and allergic to that shit. It's entire cast consists of the most communicative, emotionally mature teenagers to have ever lived. There's a reason that counting the number of apologies in the series became a meme.
>>292134904Based manga.
>>292134913Real women look cute no matter what they wear.
>>292134911Well isn't drama for women just relationship drama? I doubt its something like argo. Also what is a shojo horror series? If its something like ghosty stuff with no rules or my stalker ex rapist I'm not impressed.
>>292134913Depends on the artist and series. Femme x Femme is common enough
>>292134913The lesbians I knew both wore dresses.
>>292134944>my stalker ex rapistThat's more josei's territory. Also the stalker rapist is the love interest.
>>292134936Simp of the century.
>>292134956what? lmao
>>292134950Nothing will ever top Yuzu and Mei in matching wedding gowns. This remains one of my all time favorite spreads. It's just gorgeous.
>>292134944Just google year 24 group
>>292134966Not familiar with josei romance? It's frequently toxic as fuck with the most egregiously rapey "I can fix him" male love interests you can possibly imagine.
>>292134943Hot foreplay before FFM.
>>292134922>>292134908>>292134875>>292133363You're an antiyurifag and a Guelfag and somehow this guy makes you seethe? Also it seems that Anon is in your shit list now.
>>292134985Calm down Ojisan
>>292134950As it should. There's no point in having a masc lesbian in fiction. At that point, just write a straight romance.
>>292134981Nah man I've interacted with like 8 women I had no idea this was a thing
>>292135004Women love rapey, toxic romance, anon. And monsterfucking. That's super popular in women's literature these days.
Doesn't yuri manga last longer? I remember reading somewhere once that bl manga tend to be very short, two volumes tops, and that fujos follow by author rather than by series.
>>292123197apparently yuri VNs sell better than yaoi VNs. So there's at least one category that wins
>>292135026>FFFM foursomeBased.
>>292135026>>292134996>>292134987FFM antiyuri idolfaggot somehow gets triggered by these three specific men.
>>292135036center left looks like a boy
>>292123197
>>292135073we win bros!
>>292135152We love greenery.
>>292135152I think this guy's breddy kewl. He supports his lesbian BFF's and doesn't afraid of anything.
>Majimafag seethes over a greenboyFight fire with fire. as they say
The hell is going on here?
Is that a harem King?
Is the Master of FucKING Himself Over here?
The King of fucKING /u/, /au/, Love Live, Bandori and countless threads I do not even bother to remember after I ruin them.
>>292135006Let me verify if you're the same person.
>>292133329Men can’t be lesbians
>>292134976Year 24. Something to aim for.
Is Love Live yuri?
>>292135268I dunno. I just know that the threads are gonna burn this January.
Fight fire with fire you say?
>>292135284He is going stronger, smarter and he is here >>292134868>>292134951
>>292135277Why would it burn? Can we just post some cute yuri?
The best day of the week is here.Ain't that right Johnnyboy?
Calm your bitch ass down, OP
>>292135268My gay niece absolutely loves it and made (politely asked) me to watch it with her. We watched a couple of different seasons. Didn't really seen like yuri to me. Just CGDCT with singing and dancing. It was also mostly boring as fuck, but I didn't have the heart to tell her that. I hate idol shit in general, though, so it may just be my old bitterness making me judge it unfairly.
>>292135312The profile picture of one MasNak30
He's STILL gaslighting himself over that guyI wanted to turn him into a clown but I didn't have to do it
I once saw my friend beg me to let him have his peace in the LL threads lol.And you know what I wrote in reply?Peace is not an option.
>>292135336Bocchi the guitar King.
Boy I sure miss that "who's your favorite yuri slayer" thread
>>292135336I have turned into 4chan's megastar.>>292135345I am sure we will see them again when LycoReco S2 comes.
>>292135317Sauce?
>>292135354>LycoReco S2>watching hetshitLol, lmao even.
Is the a chart for yuri series by sales?
>>292123197>>292123306reminder that fujos are fucking everywhere, as a battle shounen and spokon guy, it takes effort to somehow not get a fujo following
>>292123197You keep making this thread just to bait your ex-boyfriend?
That's still too much yuri
I remember. I was a Jinx upon Bocchi and soon I will target down Bocchi.
>>292135399Remind me Bocchi's dog name
>>291691764 >>291691779 I certainly remember this
>>292135317This looks cute. Where's this from?
>>292135409Jimihen
>>292135420You're just like that dog. Barking up the wrong tree
>>292135415I remember over 11 years of antics and achievements.
>>292123275>>292123277its these for sure, men are literally regressing
>>292135429What's wrong with that post?
>>292135432You got some serious problems to deal with if you love bragging your autism like it's your Nobel Peace prize
Shoutout to https://desuarchive.org/meta/thread/33936/#q34983For locating the fatso.Good call and now the fun really begins.
That faggot has his "research" so far up his ass, I'm just pushing it further to drain his brain cells
>>292134004>men can self-insert in yaoiReal men dont read yaoi so shut up faggot
>>292135461So it should be fine to bookmark yaoi like >>292135393 does?
Me of a noble blood. Me won a Nobel prize. Me a King.
>>292135475Kek.
Speaking of plane, there was recent news about a young copilot who died in a plane crash along with eight people last week. She was only 20 years old and she was able to fulfill her dream so early. She died doing what she loved.And then we have this piece of shit >>292135445 who lives in his fucked up dream world without a single care about his own personal life or his deteriorating mentality.
>>292135475>>292135498>>292135445Your autism is my joy
>>292135443Do you want a trophy too? I know you have been at this for a decade.
>>292135358>>292135419World Dai Star. I'm surprised that coping idolfucker didn't respond. I thought he'd know it.
Funny thread
>15 minutes to google it
>>292135531No not really. Did not watch the anime or okay the game.
>>292135317When you see it....
>>292135543Yes
>>292135502>Young people who fulfilled their dreams die so soon>Meanwhile we have manchildren here pissing around in this thread as we speakGod can be an asshole sometimes
>>292135569I see a cute yuri couple.
>>292135569?
>>292135594And have you fulfilled your dreams?
>>292135604Speaking for yourself, Mr. 11 years?
>>292135514Same. Now give me another (you).
>>292134358I thought YuruYuri is just a silly comedy. I've never really seen any sexual scenes from it.
>>292135625>Akari rape.webm
>>292123197normal female manga reader is into yaoinormal male manga reader is not into yuri
