culture has really shifted quite dramatically, hasn't it?"lolicon" used to be an almost playful term, one you would see regularly online, and it wasn't a subject many people feared or had gross feelings about.what changed? when? why?
Why do you care what some 85 thinks?
>>292167666Because the pedos in charge realized that people won't call them out if they are too focused on their crusade against drawings of non-existing children.That's why all the "anti-pedophile" hysteria you see everywhere online nowadays hasn't ever accomplished anything. It's by design.
Sakura nails
It's odd that you would start from the term lolicon.The internet used to be populated by far fewer people. Young nerds, essentially. And the communities that these nerds occupied were separated reasonably well by their hobbies, and consequently also by gender.Nowadays, that's no longer the case.Everybody is online, and you are no longer part of a hobby-based community, but hooked up to sites that move sufficiently fast, and that your favorite ecelebs use, and perhaps also that your friends/family use.And then the next development:The communities started separating by political ideology, and actually discussing politics. Used to be, most communities on the web explicitly forbade politics as going against the netiquettes. Now, the majority thrive on political´shitstorms.Even before that last step was taken, the casual use of lolicon was doomed. But with politics in the mix, people like you are now bringing it up because you expect lots of (You)s.
>>292167666>>>/pol/
>>292167993/thread
>>292167666More normalfags with internet access.
>>292167666It's gotten so weird that there's efforts to gas light that "loli" never meant underage girls exclusively. Seen this and similar spreading around recently and it boggles me.
>>292167993IRON WEAVER SOUL STEALER!
>>292167666normies are a mistake and should be executed, that goes double for normie influencers like that penguinz cunt
>>292168544exclusively for 2d characters. you should be lynched next
>>292167666It's a compliment
>>292168471Wiki age checker are severally mentally ill, its very weird to see random western artist getting cancelled because they drew a 17yo girl, even when its so hyper/offmodel that you cant even tell its the same characther
>>292168609I remember the insane cope that went on when one of those retards found out Hatsune Miku is officially 16.
>>292168620it does you rapist
>>292168471>recentlyIf only.
>>292168684This man is now considered one of the premier journalists in the video game industry
>>292168896Luckily nobody cares about journos anymore except to clown on them when they end up being wrong (again and again).
>>292168684At least he acknowledged his ignorance in regards to the culture. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do so ever in the modern internet landscape.Or I'm just autistic and he's being sarcastic here. I can't tell.
>>292168955>Or I'm just autistic and he's being sarcastic hereCorrect, he's basically saying "Sorry for not being a loli expert like you guys". He's a snake and has been pulling this shit for more than a decade.
>>292168684I don't get how this became a thing at all because loli comes from "Lolita" which is a novel centered around a middle aged guy wanting an under aged girl. 18+ girls can certainly dress up like lolis and there is a legit loli fashion thing, but it all orbits around little girls. It's not even sexual by default imo. Characters like Kanna Kamui or Anya Forger are lolis.
>>292167666You ever see that quote about people who pretend to be idiots attract real idiots?
>>292167666You see, it all started when the economic bubble burst...
>>292169206Lolicons aren't idiots.
>>292167666You got old, Grandpa. An 18-20 year old making jokes about Sakura's period is funny and playful. A 40 something year old is not. You grew out of the age range it was considered acceptable to be making jokes about that kind of thing because you are objectively old enough to know better.Now, stop worrying about the opinions of normalfags and post more Sakura.
>>292169206People who joked about calling the cops on lolicons attracted people who actually waste police time on drawings?I can see that happening.
>>292167666>>292169370I think Sakura became the exception in many people's minds because there are reasons to find her cute and charming that are not because of her loli body, that is arguably the worst part about her. The best part is that she's pretty much a doll who looks good in all clothes and has the brains of a ceramic doll as well. Literally too innocent to picture any evil.
>>292167666Is still there, is just there are more noisy homosexuals complaining than before. Specially because it gives them views and comments. Just watch whatever you want and ignore the idiots.
>>292169380It's genuinely really fucking bad. There was a scandal at some university a few years ago because staff helped some cloutchaser group try a 'to catch a predator' sting on a 21 year old girl dating a 17 year old. Only plot twist, the 17 year old was 18, she said she was 18, the guy got beat up and sued the university and won bigly and the others went to jail for assault and kidnapping.That's just reality as it is right now. We're going back to the 1920s when they used to do things like this over moral elements nobody can adequately define because they are subjective to the person defining it. These are the people who explode at others online from cartoon drawings of Sakura.
>>292167666It's women, specifically angloid women.Puritanism, snitching, and pearl-clutching are in their genes.Smartphones have changed the balance of the internet from 80% males, to 50/50. (the problem is compound by clueless simps, male "feminist" predators, and pretend-women)
>666and NO POSTS MENTIONING ITWHY
>>292169640digits are so 10s
>>292169370Jokes?
>>292167666No pedos were always reviled and considered disgusting creatures of nature by normalfags, what changed was people’s ability to joke about them (see the old pedobear memes or jokes about some suspicious guy waiting outside of a school with a van and candy to lure kids with) and today’s current pedo hunting witch-trial akin to the 1960’s Red Scare.I suspect both of these things are because of the whole Epstein scandal and pedos now being put directly in the spotlight so zoomers are extra spooked about them in a way us millenials weren’t.
>>292167666>what changed? when? why?Normalfags invaded internet. Internet culture shifted to accommodate them.
>>292167913Also why most of the most virulent and noisy ones, eventually keep turning up in mugshots and arrest announcements for either CP or actually trying it.
>>292168599I love how his profile picture is Alieze.
>>292167666>>292168471Terms now mean whatever people need to online in the moment to win an argument. Its like how so many people are so pro "death of the author" and "media literacy" even though those two things contradict each other
>>292168138>most communities on the web explicitly forbade politicsThat's not true at all. The main difference is things were much more amicable, for various reasons, so casual discussions of politics almost never exploded into beefs and hatred, and they were just moved on from to the next topic of discussion naturally. Both right and left were able to, for example, watch the 2000 US presidential election live with eachother, and even with all the bullshit in the aftermath of that, they weren't yelling and screaming at eachother.Tribalism's mostly made that amicability impossible though now. If you even try to get along with the other side, your own side starts attacking you; try to be apolitical, and you(more so the left, but the right sometimes does it too) get attacked anyway for "fencesitting" or yelled at for having some "responsibility" to tell nosy karens your opinions.
>>292169149If you're going to bring up Nabokov's Lolita, it needs acknowledging Humbert specified "maidens" between the ages of 9 - 14, and that:>You have to be an artist and a madman... with a bubble of hot poison in your loins... in order to discern at once... the little deadly demon among the wholesome childrenBecause it's obvious that so many people just know the word without having read the source material, its very much worth noting Lolita's protagonist is as much a mentally unwell unreliable narrator as the one from Fight Club.
>>292169665you're just mad because you were 1 off
Lolicon's always had a negative stigma around it, but you rarely ever saw that negative stigma addressed because it used to be far more niche in the past so most people didn't even know about the subculture, and online circles were mostly fine with it so you'd be the oddball if you make a big stink about it.Never forget that the term moe only exists because the term lolicon got poisoned by that japanese otaku serial killer who targeted little girls in the late 80s
>>292168138>>292170068>it’s le politicalBut pedo hate is bipartisan and both the Left and the Right use pedos as their own personal bogeyman and scapegoat.
>>292167913On point. They muddled it so much they'll label "pedophile" those old farts going out with 18 ears old sluts. The word means nothing now
Sakura owes me thishttps://files.catbox.moe/3vq7t8.png
>>292169985Yeah, like multiple mangakas and a lot of people from japan specially.
>>292170347I think there's such a backlash now because the culture around "SHE WAS 17.99999 YOU SICK FUCK" has become so pervasive that even normalfags are calling themselves lolicons because they love the hecking 22 year old.
>>292170765The oldest zoomers are almost 30 and have had to deal with stuff like people saying a 27 year old dating a 21 year old is inappropriate while no one cares about powerful people doing it. So many are too whipped to care about a drawing.
>>292170880No, that's why they care about a drawing. They are demoralized. They hyper-fixate on the things they can control, powerless fucks liking art on twitter, while trying to ignore the powerful problem they'll never be able to fix. They would go insane if they couldn't.
>>292170937is picrel from a game? if so, which one? looks fun
>>292169525He probably could've sued even if she WAS 17. What the fuck is wrong with this country.
>>292171391It's from the PS1 game. Cardcaptor Sakura: Animetic Story Game. It's a retelling of the Manga using cute chibi sprites. Most of the card-catching is relegated to mario party-esque minigames.
>>292169419Why do you guys never post her very recent game
>>292171874Mobile game.
>>292171874I really don't want to have to pay to dress up Sakura. I want Tomoyo to do ti and for me to live vicariously through her.
>>292171900Kill Sakura.
>>292167666culture? changing? orly?>Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative commentshttps://desuarchive.org/a/search/deleted/deleted/width/500/height/281/about 6000 deletions on the board, files essentially from fumblr, doesn't go above 500 width and has color filters, low fps that is even inconsistent, etc due to ithmm
>>292172456>files essentially from fumblr,I went on gelbooru and searched "cardcaptor_sakura portrait" and got the oldest image that looked decentsorry for not using whatever the appropriate booru is I am old and don't know what is happening any more
>>292173002I wouldn't worry about it bro Gelbooru is the most superior booru for weeb image searching
>>292167666>what changed?Feminists found out about anime>when?2020>why?Covid
>>292169985You don’t even have to wait for that either. They all support showing fetish content to children to turn them gay or trans
>>292173247yeah but the guy who runs it is a cringelord who advertised some e-girl vtubers on the site and it pissed me off but I couldn't find a real alternative
>>292173458My ublock is always on for a reason
>>292170016>death of the author" and "media literacy"You can understand the author's intent and still not agree with it, or see other things in the book the author wasn't focusing on
>>292168573>normies
>>292174147normies are everywhere they walk the streets as filthy disgusting normietypes
>>292167666What the fuck are you talking about? There was a brief moment in time where a bunch of Twitter idiots thought being a lolicon was le ebin maymay due to gooner gooks posing as Japs, but besides that it was never something said without at least a little derision. Even lolicons called themselves such with self-depreciation.
>>292168138You're blaming the contemporary Internet and politics for this when the entire reason 4chan exists is because Lowtax hated lolicons and anime back in the early 2000s?Do any of you people know your history, or do you just LARP it?
>>292174400nah it was usually joked in otakus i miss pedobear jokes. Reddit used to have subs like what was it jailbait, its just the hardcore feminist types took over the world in the last decade
>>292167666>what changed?discord happened
>>292170078The book isn't even subtle about how Humbert is an abuser and Dolores is a victim either.
>>292173305I wonder how those feminists would react to being told "Art is sex work is work"
>>2921741474chan invented the term btw
>>292174583Reddit did, because saying normalfag can get you banned there
>>292172456I don't get the shittery really. >>292172655The site didn't get updated for over a decade and got hacked. People left obviously, but being this overrun is kind of confusing. And I guess gel doesn't check quality of uploads if tumblr can get through, for a 90s series even.
>>292174727I guess I should mention mobile. The screen is too small and they get used to eating shit, and that poster for the other thread is such a user of course.
>>292174673My new friend, you never browsed 4chan pre 2020s and it shows.
>>292174828I did and we hated fags and said fag all the time
>>292174838You don't remember r9k's famous 'fucking normies reeeeeee' voiceclip?
>>292167666So much so that when there was a 4chan con back in the day, someone in the audience joked to moot that loli was the greatest invention of mankind, and everyone laughed. Now there'd be nervous murmurs and the guy would be kicked out, or beaten up for being a pedophile.
>>292168269What has this got to do with /pol/? I don't see anything about race, trannies, feminism etc. /a/ being pro-loli has been a non-partisan thing since age old.
>>292174872Yeah, what does he think the "GET OFF MY BOARD!" part was about? Reddit doesn't have boards.
I dont care about name calling but getting tired of lel crusaders like sharty trying to kill people over drawings. would be nice if they went after actual pedophiles but that would be too much work which is why normalfa streamers do it instead.
>>292174828>>292174872as a oldfag who use to main /r9k/ when it was just sadfrog and greentext, "normie" use to get you banned as it was a reddit /twitter/tumblr word as "normalfag" would get you banned. Its amazing the amount of revisions children make to justify their pre-4chan lingo use instead of adapting.double nigger.
>>292167666>"lolicon" used to be an almost playful termNever happened
>>292175834No, that itself is a revision. 4chan created the use of "normie" simultaneous with variants like normalfag, based on the typical appending of -fag to anything. Reddit then adopted with normie without adopting normalfag or normalnigger for the reason you said, causing 4chan to call it reddit and stop using it, but it originated on 4chan, which is why the /r9k/ meme was FUCKING NORMIES GET OFF MY BOARD. Reddit doesn't have boards; it has subreddits.Even this line break I've made here started to be called "reddit posting" not really all that long ago, because of something to do with how reddit formats posts, but it's now become so bad, you can't put paragraphs where they would naturally occur in good English writing, because that is also reddit posting somehow, even though you can go back and look at old 4chan posts and see people using normal paragraphs. It makes it seem less like reddit inventing something unique and cringe of its own, and more like reddit stealing things and then we stop doing them because it becomes reddit after the fact. Anyway, we should go back to using NORP (Normal Ordinary Respectable Person), which was the original 4chan versus of the 2ch reeaju (real person). /b/ was against the forces of NORP and FAIL, and that second one is yet another thing that has become associated with reddit because they adopted it and normalized it, even though fail comics come from here originally.
>>292174727That's just shitty bait that gets way more (you)s than it should.
>>292176096>FUCKING NORMIES GET OFF MY BOARDthis was like 2 years after normalfags dumbshit. it started on reddit and resdit children brought it over.>reddit spacinghow can you know about this ancient shitpost but not where normie came from? are you just trolling outside of /b/ on purpose?
>>292176096>less like reddit inventing something unique and cringe of its own, and more like reddit stealing things and then we stop doing them because it becomes reddit after the fact.Happened with troll face, "rage comics" and other things, too.
>>292176096>It makes it seem less like reddit inventing something unique and cringe of its own, and more like reddit stealing things and then we stop doing them because it becomes reddit after the fact. It was more like instead of memes dying off on their own after getting old, they got driven into the ground by unfunny redditshitters.
Its amazing the post 2016 tourists still fight tooth and nail to claim "normie" is 4chan lingo. Its been a decade, let it go.
>>292174673I'm a pedophile fuck niggers the holocaust didn't happenNow that I have sufficiently signaled myself, I think the word normie is really funny and I miss 2014 /r9k/
>>292176367I miss imouto threads.
The only loli threads that /a/ has anymore are generals for fanserviceless manga that ended over 5 years ago
>>292176367its easy to find words funny you grew up laughing at in middle school on reddit :^)
Today I will remind them.
>>292178104I remember when the fansubs for Akibaranger used "newfags" and normalfags shat their pants so hard over it the subbers released a v2 without the evil no-no word.That was the beginning of the end.
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>>292167666>666The devil pedo.
>>292167666Sadly yes
>>292167993This looks like AI slop.
