Let's start with Plan A!
favorite page?
>tfw still haven't watched the movie
What a ride...
Thanks OP and the "me"s for being consistent "TIMING" with this storytime.
>>292169180What a fascinating way of stirring confidence and dismay all at once
>>292169282kind of crazy baku revived twice with that diseased heart
Post those fade out edits please
>>292169246According to Manabe's african tree allegory, Lalo won by having his plan inherited
>>292169311Kinda thrice if you count that near death against Lalo
So... why does Hachina not collect Bakus life after the first STL?
I jobbed...
>>292169373Canon answer: he lost interest in Baku immediately after beating himFanfiction answer: he subconsciouly remembered his friend and didn't want to kill him
>>292169373He forgot
>>292169180The one you posted and Yakou's spendid get me every time.
>>292169148Afterparty? Where's the final half dump?
Here's a catbox link that should have all the OCs from this storytime + the game rules:https://files.catbox.moe/pd4rg2.ziphttps://files.catbox.moe/pd4rg2.ziphttps://files.catbox.moe/pd4rg2.zipAlso I'm going to post the letters sent from readers + the very short FFXIV collab + one page interview if you don't mind.
>>292169637>>292164876>>292164876
Baku: SakuraiKaji: Gen SatoMarco: Bin ShimadaKadokura: FukuJunTatsuki: Shuichi IkedaTaka: KujiraKyara: Daisuke OnoDouji: Hiroshi Kamiya
Ok, since no one is objecting here's the start of the letters
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>>292169180This one is up there
>>292169699
The real usogui starts now
>>292169699>Fujos from the very first letter
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>>292169736That's all of the letters.Now get ready for FemBaku...
>>292169726The real protoporos starts now
FFXIV X USOGUI
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>>292169783The crazy face reactions are one of my favorite things Sako does
>>292169813gear 5 Baku
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>>292169828Can the Baku gang do savages?
>>292169828That's the FF collab doneNow just the interview
>>292169664Thanks, it eluded me
>>292169828Baku after he gets a new heart from a certain capoaerist
>>292169508
Link to the site : https://archive.li/6jhmAlso finally managed to update the Pastebin!Just 2 more days and it will be complete...https://pastebin.com/9HGt1efZhttps://pastebin.com/9HGt1efZhttps://pastebin.com/9HGt1efZ
>>292169900Forgot to say, that's ALL!Also >>292169848 is referencing this page if you forgot
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQsaJtQSeCrACgDWah_y_u6MIsH9GnMAQdlubFFnyxjGAxMN44jLa57ZX7-nZwQ2w/pubhtml?gid=967170801&single=trueAs I said in a previous thread, I indexed (almost) every 2ch/5ch Usogui thread from 2006 to 2017. If you've been wondering what it was like to read Usogui weekly, or if you're curious about their reactions back then, now you can.They figured out pretty much every main trick ahead the the reveal I believe: Sadakuni's eyes, the Morse code, the leap second etc. It's funny how much you can achieve when you have a bunch of people overthinking everything and treating every rule like Chekhov's gun.
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Hangman 5/10Labyrinth 9/10 - Peak Usogui starts hereBull 8/10KY Declaration 9/10Tower of K(ino) 8/10Battleship 9/10Protoporos - 8/10Air Poker - 10/10 - Peak Usogui ends hereSurpassing the Leader - 6/10Simple as.
>>292169946Early Yakou looks so scary
Ranko? A virgin pure maiden.
>>292169148Great manga. I do feel like the author didn't explore the characters enough though, and struggled at times to give them the emotional depth and development that would make their stories feel more impactful. I really wish I would've seen more of Kaji. I would've preferred seeing more time dedicated to developing his character (or others) instead of focusing on other side characters and referees who, in my opinion, didn't have much of an impact, or some fights that felt infinitely stretched out despite their amazing choreography. It was hard for me to find much interest in the referees or feel relatability towards them, with maybe a few exceptions. I understand this is kind of the point though.Would've killed to see more of Madarame's backstory, maybe even from when he was younger than what we got to see in the flashbacks. I feel like Sako tried to introduce more emotional depth in the later chapters (e.g. Kyara's death and Usogui's reaction to it), I just really wish we would've gotten more of that earlier on.The games were incredibly amazing, though, and in my opinion definitely the manga's biggest strength. One of the most fun things for me came from thinking about the games and trying to predict what the characters would do. The last 2/3 arcs especially were fantastic. I also had a lot of fun trying to predict where the story was going, seeing just how many insane foreshadowing clues Sako had planted throughout the manga.Probably one of my favorite manga, if not my absolute favorite. Not sure if this is the place to leave my rant, but I randomly decided to pick up this manga months after someone recommended it to me and coincidentally found out that these threads existed, with people reading and finishing it around the same time I was, which was a nice surprise
>>292170285she was raped by mogami in the sweltering summer of 2002
>>292170531I think this is the perfect time and opportunity to post rants, just don't expect much feedback unless you meticulously include something inflamatory in your reply that will make people want to jump in and "correct" you. I'm glad you enjoyed the manga so much, this was my 4th full reread. Some arcs will grow on you when you read them a few times, others won't feel the same once you read them without the enhancing effect of curiosity and anticipation.In general, though, it has a good case for most rereadable manga of all time (it's either this or Angel Densetsu).
Can someone post the "gambler that wins forever" page(s), please?
>>292170798Yeah, that figures. I'll probably end up rereading it a bunch of times too once I've forgotten enough of it (..Hal reference?). I haven't really reread any manga before, actually, so I can't really speak from experience, but I'm sure it'll be fun. Angel Densetsu looks cool, I've seen it in a few edits but haven't gotten around to giving it a try yet
>>292171146Angel Densetsu is actually a comedy manga. I thought it was very funny when I read it like 15 years ago, never felt the urge to reread it though
Finally I can let this out. SAKO YOU FUCKING HACK. In the scene when Kyara damaged his eye, there was a picture of the bottle with compound, that should have been tertbutyl peroxide with no smell - it was important, isn't it? But on the bottle it was clearly written god damned mercaptoethanol. It won't damage your skin and it smells like shit. 2/10 manga, what a shame.
>>292169148Where can one get himself some Kariume? Curious to try it after seeing Baku munch on it throughout the entire manga
>>292171314I got a thing of tamarind jellies recently and they come in similar packaging to the Kariume so I sorta feel like a nega-Usogui whenever I tear one open and munch on them also I’m brown
>>292171314Looks like you can get some on Japanese snack sites, shouldn't be too hard to find
>>292169900>most people who want to become an artist aren't trying hardain't that the truth
>>292172132I could draw for 50 years and never even come close to making something on the level of UsoguiSome people got it and some don't
I kinda wanted to read Usogui and I checked in for the first thread but fell off instantly cause I couldn't drum up the motivation and time. Is this a good dropping in point for the manga? Like can I skip everything before this?
>>292172394Yeah, it's a really easy point to pick it up because you can just read this and stop as it's the FINAL VOLUME DUMBASS
>>292169706Baku looks rather jacked here
>>292169180Torn between Minowa introduction, this, or Baku as the devil
>>292169769Harima doesn't have this issue, so I wonder why Usogui in particular is so effeminate
>>292172657Baku/Hal/Lalo are meant to be a bit androgynous I think, so it's easy to go over the line
i wonder what baku was doing in the 5 years between the first STL and meeting kaji>>292169180i don't know about a favorite but i really like how leader was drawn here
How well would Usogui be if it's published in Jump?
>>292169148How did you feel about the revelation regarding his heart? It’s one of my favorite parts of the manga; it recontextualizes so much of what we see, as well as the underlying message about living life to the fullest, no matter what.That’s also the reason why Baku is always consuming those shitty candy. It’s for his circulation. His poor physical condition too. That’s why during the Protoporos arc one of his top priorities was getting those candies onto the island. Every single day was a gamble in itself for him, and whenever he felt like he couldn’t go on, he would picture the back of the strongest person he knew, and then he’d get back up once again.
so how did Baku actually lose his first StL? did Kakerou actually stop all airplanes in Tokyo with only a few minutes of preparation, or was he just unlucky?
>>292173294Baku living on a time limit with a heart condition is good revealThe Gonen stuff I could do without. Not that he lost his heart in a gamble but the global conspiracy with his doppleganger part.
>>292173416>see Baku's associates (who he borrowed from other Kakerou members) snooping around airports>stalk them>stop all airplanes after he proposed the gameFrom Souichi's perspective he simply counter prep Baku and goad him into the airplane bet.
>>292173465Worth noting he had a bunch of hangers on during his first tenure as Kakerou member, and Kyara noted all those people would only be around as long as he kept winningOne of them could easily have betrayed him for all sorts of incentivesBut of course we know Baku was intending to lose anyway
>>292173416What happens if Tatsuki is sitting there instead?I don't think he could outsmart Baku but I think he could read him and avoid being read better than Souichi
>>292173536Tatsuki could rig StL in some way to win.
>>292173660Love Sako inserting our guy in when he can.
>>292169180I just really like the lil guy
Just reminding you all Baku is 4 - 1 against Hal. And his only loss was on purpose as part of his keikaku.Jobbing Bloodline
>>292173416>was he just unluckyHe wanted to lose anon
>>292173666Is that my HERO....Pachanga?
>>292173891Baku and Gonen (Gonen is Baku’s father, Sandro revealed this in an SBS) are part of an ancient Atlantean bloodline that makes Kagerounosuke look like a newborn babe.
>>292174276>Sako casually reveals in a volume afterword that Amako was Kaji's biological father
Its kinda cool how Usogui doesnt have a tragic past influencing him or chosen one background. He is just doing stuff out of the literal love for the game. His allies and most antagonists had a sobbing backstory and he was just like>yes sure nigga, just pick a card and shut up
>>292174369You know the story is this good when you dont know if anon is jesting or not with some crackpot story
>>292174409I'm making fun of how Oda revealed a certain antagonist was Franky's biological father in the letter corner, as I imagine the other anon was also doing
>>292173654KEK. My headcanon is despite Yakou being Leader's attendant, Usogui keeps him away because of the coffee. He also brings Yakou B along to somewhat have Yakou by his side. Probably made a bet so he could call Yakou B as Hikoichi for giggles.
>>292174420>Franky's biological fatherI didnt know about that. Just looked it up... Jesus Christ. Why is shit like OP so popular while Usogui isnt?
>>292170055Awesome. Thanks, anon.
>>292174386>>yes sure nigga, just pick a card and shut upBut that's not true, though. Baku clearly treats hurt people differently.
>>292169813Fun fact; Baku didn't actually do anything special here, he's just the only person in the room who understands the Plus Combo rule as well as the AI does.
>>292171146Such a cool page, man. I'm sure you'll reread Usogui someday, it's the rare type of story that really delivers even more when you've completed it once. I hope you like Angel Densetsu, it's a comfy ride that really stays with you.>>292171181Then this is the perfect time, anon. It hits different as you get progressively older.
Anybody want some raws from the recent volumes?
>>292174386Yeah, I like the decision to not give Baku and Lalo any backstory. Makes their roles as the forces of change more potent
>>292173567>>292173536Though Tatsuki could be some higher IQ individual and capable of attempting to outmaneuver Baku, I think Baku intended to lose the first StL only because he had already known Souichi would be the leader of Kakerou and would likely spare him. Otherwise, I think he'd choose some other way to rid himself of his unreliable allies. Baku must have realized with Hal what a genuine and capable ally could be like, which might have been why he wanted Kyara in the first place.
>>292174490I rather read Kengan Omega than current day One Piece.
>>292173891Are you adding an extra point for Baku every time you post this?
>>292174420>looked this upWhat the fuck
>>292169148Acid trip, the manga. And not a good one either.Good art, but I feel dumber after reading it.
>>292173450And all the stress of drowining and dying over and over seemes to have no effect on his heart?
>>292170055>It's funny how much you can achieve when you have a bunch of people overthinking everything and treating every rule like Chekhov's gun.It happens when you are internally consistent writer. Thanks for the link!
Leap Second is still a horrible asspull
Try one more maybe you’ll get a you
In the end, I didn't like Usogui as much as I did on the first read but I blame that more on the nature of it being a weekly YJ manga because what irks me was apparent in a lot of WSJ/UJ/YJ manga of the time. I knocked it out of my 3x3 a few years ago but I still think in general it's one of the best long running manga. (At least one continuous one, not one that isn't deliberately episodic or different jumps around based.) Have a Mogami since I'm being contrarian. >>292175559You can do a lot with a bad heart as long as it isn't cold or hard cardio. Swimming is perfectly fine as long as you don't power bomb it and holding your breath without panicking is fine.t. has a metal aortic valve, with a balloon and stint in the mitral and died so bad that one they called the vicar in for my mother.
>>292175777Nice mog
>>292165030Same pose as Baku in his near death dream.>>292165086>The Prince Bee I read a long time agoWonder how Baku got his hands on that, considering Eba only sells it in that one bookstore.>>292167390>>292167426Maybe Eko's message was meant for Baku all along. See >>292165330>I wonder for whose sake is it that I'm recording such a message.>Even I do not know.Maybe Eko's message was meant for Baku.>>292167252Thank you, OP. Usogui is my favorite story and this storytime helped me through a rough period. You are a liar for never dueling me in Dead or Alive 2, but you are still a hero.Thank you Team Duwang. Best translation ever and the charts are very helpful.>>292167798>>292168025I prefer gambles to fights, and value logic.Air Poker and StL have the highest highs, but I can't rate them as peak fiction because of their issues. Air Poker has Baku rely on the miracle of Hal reclaiming his memories, and StL has too many explanations and audience reactions.Most of these arcs are better than any other manga though.Also I underrated Labyrinth this storytime. It was really good and come on, the threads were super hype during Labyrinth.>Top 5 Referees:Yakou, Manabe, Midara, Kadokura, Taka>Top 5 Side characters:Champ, Gackt, Kidou THE DARK SLEEPER, The Journalist, Oshiken>Top 5 Antagonists:Billy, Lalo, Suteguma, Minowa, Voja>Top 5 Fights:Yakou vs Tatsuki, Leo and Marco vs Kyara, Yakou vs Kadokura, Kadokura vs Minowa>Top 5 Gambles:Air Poker, StL, Labyrinth, Tower of Karma, Game of Contradiction>Top 5 Moments: (challenge yourself to name them in a way that is instantly recognizable)Baku's bombBaku seeing Kyara's corpse"I'll never live like a slave again"Hachina and Baku meeting at the bookstore"Gamblers are kind of pathetic huh"There are so many more though.
>>292169180It's hard to pick one when I have 2000+ saved pages from this manga.
>>292170531>I really wish I would've seen more of Kaji. I would've preferred seeing more time dedicated to developing his characterInteresting that you say Kaji of all characters. I feel like he got quite a lot of spotlight since Chapter 1, with his backstory and personality being explicitly told to us in the Game of Contradiction.
Congratulations, new readers. You have reached the end of Usogui and the start of your obligatory re-read. The real Usogui starts now. >>292171146
>>292173416>did Kakerou actually stop all airplanes in TokyoI think it was actually Baku's own henchmen who didn't go through with the plan.>with only a few minutes of preparationsince Baku's henchmen were all borrowed power that took Leader's side.And Baku knew they would.It's interesting to note that it seems Leader was only subconsciously aware that the airplanes wouldn't take off, as he says in StL. "It's like that night, somehow I knew in my heart the sky would stay silent". There was also a full moon that night, and the mail from Souichi's doctor says that Leader's memory loss is like the waxing and waning of the moon and might be related to gravity.tl;dr Leader might have lost his memory right before his first StL against Baku.
>>292175897>Kidou THE DARK SLEEPERI guess he's an antagonist though. Let's say Karl then.
>>292173294>it recontextualizes so much of what we see, as well as the underlying message about living life to the fullest, no matter what.If that's Baku's initial condition at the beginning of the story, I agree. Everything Baku did since the beginning of Usogui makes even more sense: he's racing against time for his own life, of course he's going to do everything the way he did.But I don't get why people assume Gonen didn't just beat Baku after Baku because Leader: 1 Eba's book talks about these last chapters events as they are the continuation of the previous story. 2 we see Gonen emerge from the shadows after Baku wins the card game. 3 in Baku's thoughts during STL and here, he is on the operating table with his asult hair cut.To me it looks like Baku won STL, challenged the Vices, beat 2 (possibly 3?) of them and then lost against Gonen, losing his heart in the process.All this Gonen = Baku's father makes zero sense. Kakerou has files over the Vices, nowhere is stated or even hinted Baku and Gonen are related.
>>292175510Doing drugs is bad for you.
Did the author ever explain why Marco got sidelined so hard in the final arc?
>>292169180Best side character with the best arc.
>>292170531>>292176092It's not just him specifically, but I did feel like the manga sometimes placed too much importance on side characters who weren't really that interesting and just felt like filler in my opinion. I don't disagree that he got a lot of spotlight, I think Kaji has one of the best character developments in the manga, but that's exactly why I would've loved to see just slightttlllly more of him in the finale. I should rephrase my comment to I would've loved to see a somewhat more satisfying conclusion to his character (or Marco's, for that matter, as I also feel like he deserved a little more).
Anime is on high demand right now. So, I'm positive that Usogui will eventually get an adaptation in the near future. Maybe by David Production
>>292178032maybe one day...
Wished she kept this hair
>>292178032Maybe once Sako dies at the ripe old age of 120 and his daughter sells the rights
>>292169180I generally like the gambles way more than the fights but this spread is just something else.
>>292178108Yeah she kind of got downgraded in the last arc
>>292169180Kaji had such good development
>>292176418>To me it looks like Baku won STL, challenged the Vices, beat 2 (possibly 3?) of them and then lost against Gonen, losing his heart in the process.That's not it.>>292176418>If that's Baku's initial condition at the beginning of the story, I agree.That's it.
>>292179252Ok but was sticking his fingers in his Baku tulpa's mouth necessary?
>>292177810>I would've loved to see a somewhat more satisfying conclusion to his characterIf I read your comment as that of a critic I have to disagree, because I think the main cast got everything they needed and more. If I read your comment as that of a fan, I can understand it. You like the characters and want to see them do more.>I did feel like the manga sometimes placed too much importance on side characters who weren't really that interesting and just felt like filler in my opinionLike Oshiken, Gackt, Champ, Arata, the PFD etc? That's unfortunate, I quite like the side characters of Usogui but I can't argue with you if you simply don't like them.
>>292179586Well they had the most homoerotic relationship
>>292169638Amazing thanks
I wonder if Sako struggled ending Usogui.I said it before, but there are basically 4 chapters that could very well serve as the ending.And on the note of endings, i still think its rather miraculous that Usogui had an ending to begin with. I feel like in another world Usogui probably kept going on and on for god knows how long.
>>292169638Thanks anon, I missed some of these
>>292179574Eba's book, Baku's adult hair etc don't fit into your headcanon?
>>292180019>left to rightAnyway I still wonder what the top right page means. Why did Baku look back? What does it mean?
A new challenger has appeared...>>292180164
>>292178108I wish she kept literally anything from this arc. Ranko was genuinely pretty cool for a bit and then just went back to being solely a nice pair of tits.
>>292181129>"The shadow games"?>How intriguing~
I kind of got filtered by the ending. Who the fuck is Gonen?
>>292181365A literally Kyara that won Baku's heart off of him years ago and ended up looking like him because of that.
>>292181305>this is supposedly a sexy twink
>>292181365There are a bunch of other organizations besides Ideal and Kakerou. These are the vices. Gonen leads them under Vehizoma. Baku made a bet where he lost his heart, likely getting Gonen's. Gonen started to become more like Baku thanks to that. Wanna know more? Find out in Usogui 2 Omega.... whenever Sako decides he wants to draw that. Say, how old is Sako again? I fear he might run out of gas before we get the fabled Baku vs Gonen
>>292175443I forgot the first one.
>>292181365Fanfiction. Usugoi officially ends with the panel of Hal, Nobuki and Marco in the hospital. Everything after that is a collective fever dream.
Less than 30 minutes until the storytime!
>>292183207what storytime?
>>292183217The spinoff
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>>292183241>>292183253oh the fanfiction with shoujo art? no thanks
I've seen a few people bring up that page with Minowa leaning in the doorway when talking about the point where Usogui really starts to take off, but I'd like to propose picrel as an alternative. For me, this moment is what it's all about: Usogui has entered a gamble and our protagonist is in BIG trouble - but suddenly, with great panache, something totally unexpected happens and in happening shows that Usogui has not only figured out how his opponent's advantage works, but has indeed devised a way to subvert that advantage in order to secure his own victory. Imo this is part of what makes StL so interesting too; as others have already pointed out, it is set up "backwards"; Usogui is the one who has gone to extraordinary lengths to give himself some massive advantage and we watch, among other things, Perfect Leader trying to piece together his trick in time (heh)Kind of relatedly, I really enjoyed all the OC this storytime brought. I'd never seen variations on the "Usogui enters a gamble" meme before but over the course of the dump we got versions for Kaji, Marco, Hal, and Gackt iirc plus maybe more I've forgotten ("Mii-chan enters a tv studio..."?). I also appreciated the general conversation, especially seeing familiar arcs through other anons' eyes, reluctantly agreeing with critiques of StL and ToK while gaining newfound appreciation for Battleship and, surprisingly, ToK. It's always nice to see one of your favorite manga get an active storytime! Much thanks and appreciation to OPTheGambler and Karl Dumpmont
>>292183363Hell yeah this moment is great. Hangman's writing is underrated.
>>292183399Hangman is underrated, Leader and Kyara’s intros are great. It’s also the most important arc in terms of set up. Abandoned building and hangman aren’t bad at all, it’s neutral that the series gets better as it goes on and the gambles get more intricate, tense, and creative
>>292183439Yep.
Ok, but what did Kaji do to those toilets?
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OP STARTS A THREAD!!!>>292183689>>292183689>>292183689
>>292177555Marco's arc was basically done and there wasn't really any STRONG guy to fight as a parallel
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