CONSPIRACY ENDGAMELAST>>292068024
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>>292191442Even the fat kid finally learned to make his own Billy Bat. Good for him.
>>292191174He looks so fucking tired and might kill himself anytime
>>292191442Our boy Yamashita... now a cult leader?!
>>292191442I knew it's not going to be Yamagata but didn't expect to be himThanks OP
>>292191442Just when I'm ready for this whole thing to end, Urasawa pulls me back in. Truly the Anno of our times.
>>292191227Even the chinks are fucking baffled.
>>292191316kek
>>292191206Seriously, when did Timmy get this bad? He even looks like a total psycho now.
>>292191673he walked out on six ministers just because the top guy wasn't therethat's imperial-level self-confidence
first time readers are not ready for the next chapter
>>292192168Nobody ever got better from spending all day every day obsessing over their dead deadbeat dad and how they need to kill all their enemies forever to "win"
>>292192168Timmy shouldn't have stopped drawing.
>>292191442MY fuacking leader
>>292192553Psssh as if. Billy Bat has run its course, it can't possibly surprise me now.
>>292191120Jackie has seen better days.
>>292191174why is he still wearing that stupid hoodie
>>292195420It helps put him in a bad mood.
>>292195420Rich faggots can't help doing stupid shit
>>292193943still would.
>>292191442Thank you for posting, OP!
>>292193943Haven't we all.
>>292202573The Heart...
>>292202466>I've spent my days...drawing>There's nothing more fun/ic/bros...
OVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>292202356Holy fuck it's Zoofu!
Despite not being bad the series never reach the heights of the early series with Shizuka, the ninjas and more
>>292202573Did they cut off his legs, too?
>>292202661>handing off the mantle once again;_;
>>292202573THE BHEART
>>292191442>Hero>Manager>Park Director>Cult Leaderis the anything he cant do?
>>292191637both of them were born in 1960
It's impressive how much old Timmy starts to look like his dad. Urasawa is very good with faces.
>>292202661>DRAW (LIVE™)Fuck u Urasawa, and fuck japs
>>292204688
>>292202661words /ic/ is afraid to hear
page nine bump
>>292202557The greatest
>>292191135>>292191166>People's Republic of ChinaI thought Timmy mentioned China becoming a liberal democracy. I guess he was just bullshiting about that
>>292191442I was hoping for Yamagata but fucking Yamashita becoming a real Billy Bat artist is almost as good
>>292202356>>292202376Oh fuck
>>292202399>>292202417Fucking finally I thought we'd never see the two of them interact again I've had my problems with the last arc, but I'm really glad seeing this
>>292202661It's pulling me back inOne more time, I'm pulled back in
I wish I knew how to have fun drawing...
>>292202557FUCK YES
>>292202153what do you guys think about the in-universe Billy Bat comics?plotwise, they're said to be enthralling stories, captivating the hearts of childs and adults alikebut it's an informed quality, we accept they're masterpieces because the plot needs them to be masterpiecesbut how well in your opinion did Urasawa realize this idea?how do you judge the comics on their own? are they brilliant? generic? would you feel weird openly reading one in the metro? what do they make you feel?
When this storytime is done I'm gonna reread all of Billy Bat to see how I really feel about it
>>292202661ROW ROW DRAW ZA POWER
>>292202399FINALLY.>>292202557You want Yamagata Billy Bat? You get DOMO DOMO instead.
>>292202258sure are a lot of false flag ops in this manga
>>292202661DOMO DOMO ;_:
>>292206514"liberal democracy" and "people's republic" both mean in practice "only corporate chairmans and ranked members of the party get to vote in a way that matters"
>>292202557>You want Birry Bat? Too bad! Here Fujipontaro! Domo Domo!
Thanks for dumping, OP!>>292191284>Normal student backpackersDid they all pay that 500$ to get pass those Chinese soldiers? Or did those soldiers come afterwards?>>292191442>>292202399GODDAMN>>292202596The moral of our story
Disregard schizo conspiracies, just DRAW.
>>292206744You can flip it around to motivate yourself which would be the only thing you hate more than drawing is not seeing your comic/art exist.
>>292191166Manlet Timmy
>>292192574>dead deadbeat dadthat's a mouthful
>>292191298I like GawanSuch a happy fella
>>292191306What is this face meant to convey?
>>292202661This series never fails to get the drawfag inside me in motion
>>292207762we just don't see enough of them for me to form a real opinionthe one from the first chapter seemed interesting but we never really see how it got resolved
>>292202466god, those assholes took his entire right arm
>>292202492Billy must be having real bad connection to not have been sure if this guy was the real deal or not
>>292210034could be they just took the hand but then the wound got gangrenous and the rest had to be amputated
>>292202511Not only did niggastream keep using those square brackets, they never spell pharaoh right
>>292202951RIP cute prostituteShe was so kind to Yamagata and focused on Billy that I thought she was going to be revealed to be part of an evil cult or in league with the glowies when I started reading
>>292202466I'm glad Kevin achieved artistic enlightenment after all those years of alcoholism due to bat-induced schizophrenia
DRAW
>>292191192It's funny how Urasawa implies the CCP caters to the whims of Disney when it's actually the other way around.
>>292210810Disney could cripple the economy of any nation in the world overnight if it tried, be it America, China, or Russia
>>292209800NTA, but what do you mean by that? It's a bit confusing the way you phrased it>>292206744ditto. I know how to draw, most people would call me "good" (i personally consider myself just "good enough") but I actively dislike the act of drawing. Seeing the finished piece is what I enjoy, but all those hours inbetween having the idea and seeing the finished page is just grueling work to me.
>>292202557uber based
>>292191316he tried
>>292191398the bat that I hate
>>292202258fucking Tibetan terrorists
>>292202557DOMO DOMO
>>292207762from the little we've seen, I think they'd be something like TinTin
>>292212705for me they were just what they were advertising. I noticed in these threads and on /co/ that a lot of people don't know that Mickey Mouse had a lot of adventure-type comics going on, I loved to read them as a kid. I remember that I learned from it a trick to escape from being tided up in a rope.(I don't know if it works in reallife, but it sounded like it would work)
>>292212769they don't have adventures these days? then what are these comics even about?
>>292213381slice of life, comedy etc.I don't know about "these days" and I don't know what the ratio was for adventure/comedy back in the day, I just know when talking about Mickey Mouse, no one ever brings up that he has adventure-type of stories
>>292213381there are no new comics, its just reprints
>>292202661Thanks OP
I've had this idea in my head for a while, figured I should put it out before the end.
>>292215811Who are two women?
>>292210943lmao. the only forces that could do that are sex, drugs and food. and Disney aint any of em
>>292202661this whole crazy journey started because of Yamagata's possibly irrational beliefs that only one person should be allowed to draw a character and that you should be asking permission to draw him yourself. a lot of people back in the beginning pointed him out even.but at the end, Yamagata finally understood that you shouldn't need permission to draw art, you draw because its fun and if people is out there drawing your characters out of inspiration, that is something you should be proud of.art comes from inspiration, and inspiration can come from anywhere. and iterating on something that exists just helps that something grow, either for good or bad.
>>292216630nothing in this chapter says thatif Yamagata was seen drawing Marvel characters then you would have a point, but he only draws the things he came up with, exactly like alwayshe doesn't even have new material, it's all Billy or Pontaroso your interpretation is beautiful, but also pure fanfiction
>>292202661Arigato!
>>292217049>but he only draws the things he came up with, exactly like alwaysexcept the character was drawn first by another mangaka, and another mangaka before that, and before that and so onHe just made the best version of that character, but it's not his own. The stories are, not the character.
>>292217049Did you forget that he copied Billy from Zofu and had a whole crisis because his dad told him not to steal other people's things, and when he came back to America Chuck had stolen his IP?
>>292218513he saw and "stole" the graffiti, not Zofuu's workso it's not even direct inspirationbut in any case, Yamagata got full blessing from Zofuu that he is authorised to continue to draw Billyso Yamagata in in fact wholly copyright compliant nothing he does is anything like a statement that you should take inspiration from whatever you wantI see his words as a call to keep honing your craftif he can draw without hands then nobody has an excusethat is something the chapter actually shows
>>292219161>he saw and "stole" the graffiti, not Zofuu's workI might be misremembering, but I thought that was later retconned to him also having seen Zofuus book at a open convenience store thing
>>292219161>he saw and "stole" the graffiti, not Zofuu's work>so it's not even direct inspirationYamagata himself admits he stole it. Even when asked if he'll stop if Zofuu told him to he couldn't answerI don't know about the chapter itself, though I do think it's a valid interpretation, but anon is correct about the manga championing inspiration and building upon what was created even without asking to. Yamagata understood this at some point.
>>292217049>nothing in this chapter says thatYou means aside from >>292202596
>>292219197I think he didn't, but I can't say with 100% certainty eitherhowever it's all the same in the end, because as I said Zofuu himself gave Yamagata his okay so we don't know anything about what Yamagata thinks about drawing without permission, because we never see him draw without permissionfor all we know he could still staunchly believe you shouldn't misappropriate the art of others
>>292219355no, including thathe says "my drawings", so he's still simply giving permission to use his own work
>>292219334>when asked if he'll stop if Zofuu told him to he couldn't answerexactly, so we don't know what he thinksthe manga doesn't say it
>>292219502It's up to interpretation at the moment. But the pages immediately after it makes it clear what the correct answer should be.This is echoed throughout the story multiple times. The Billy Bat fan artists around the world are an example of this, and their death was painted as a bad thing from multiple angles.
>>292207762I enjoyed the peek we got at Yamagata's version in the first two chapters so I can imagine it being a cult classic at the very least. Even though it's a fairly standard detective murder mystery plot in that part it's got that Urasawa clarity and momentum that makes it fun and easy to read.
>>292219640true, and it's not like I disagree with Zofuu heremy point was that we don't know what Yamagata thinks, and I still believe "keep practicing no matter what" is a much louder and stronger messagealthough there's a difference when talking about artists studying other artists to learnand artists and companies pirating other artists for monetary gain, like what fake Culkin had donesaying it's okay to copy to further your own personal growth is not the same as saying it's okay to copy and sell itthose are different conversations, and Zofuu is employing a bit of sophistry by mixing them
>>292220202I don't disagree either. But I still think it's a valid interpretation, especially since Yamagata's whole journey started with him asking for permission.Zofuu was clearly referring to the artistic process and how it works, not saying it's fine to copy and profit. That's something he didn't touch upon himself since it's irrelevant to the situation presented to him. That was mostly explored throughout other parts in the story. But even then he is stating how humans evolve through the efforts of those before them, whether the intention was good or bad from the start.
>>292220336>Zofuu was clearly referring to the artistic process and how it worksZofuu was, yesbut I'm not convinced that was what Yamagata was askingYamagata had already profited commercially and so I took that to be his biggest worry, that he had unwittingly committed plagiarismespecially since his father had been the victim in the exact same situation of somebody exploiting his idea for cashthat's why I said I think Zofuu's answer is faulty, he answered the wrong question
All this talk about copyright made me realize Timmy is like Tim Buckley getting mad at a kid and contacting his lawyers because said kid drew fanart of his character, though in this case Billy isn't even really his
>>292220524Yamagata was worried in multiple levels. Morally and commercially he was worried both because of how he was brought up and his character. That's the kind of person he was because most in his position wouldn't have gone that far for it. Zofuu only answered the questions he was given. He clearly wasn't bothered and he explained when, even when taking story reasons into account.
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>>292221544DOMO DOMO...
>>292221570>They remembered Oswald
