Find an artist you trust that takes crypto, ideally

>>8943663
Oh, I should have precised: NO CRYPTO!

That thing is part of what make the planet boil.

>>8943672
Unless you want to mail them cash, or something, crypto is probably your best bet, you can find coins that don't use PoW as a system. Otherwise, good luck if you find any other alternatives for anonymous payment, especially in this day and age.

>>8943701
I miss the old internet.

>>8943701
>you can find coins that don't use PoW as a system.
All blockchain systems inevitably end up being bloated by keeping records of it's past transfer. and consuming huge amount of energy with each transactions.

>>8943672
Dude it's a percentage of what onions/almond farming uses for water, the fact people think it's that bad is just ignorance. If you want privacy it's your best and possibly only bet.

>>8943767
Farming is notorious for consuming a large amount of water. This comparison is not the point you think it is.

>>8943672
>doesn't want to use Monero or Stellar Lumens
Your loss.

>>8943770
Exactly. Which is why I get my food by going outside and cannibalizing people to save the planet instead of buying groceries.

>>8943802
Not really the point. Not saying to not buy vegetable, simply saying to not artificially double the consumption of water needed to produce them.

>>8943648
prepaid debit. you buy them at a local grocer. you only have to register if you want to reload them iirc.

>>8943823
I'll check if I have one in my country. I'd still need to connect them to a new Paypal account (which now also obligatory requires a phone number too, so I'd have to figure that out too) and a user having two diferent paypal account goes agaisnt the term of services and transfer from frequently changing debit cards might raise them enough of a red flag that they realise this is a dude account.

But at least that's a start of how to keep my NSFW and SFW stuffs separated...

Thanks.

>>8943767
dude they also drive up the price of pc parts because they mass buy all the limited gpus and cpus, fuck em

>>8943838
not hard, burner phone, burner email only used from public wifi to set up the paypal, handle all communication with the artist using text-to-speech recorded on a cassette tape and played into a payphone calling their VOIP answering machine.
alternatively, arrange a cash dead-drop and travel to their city using busses only
basic protocols, really

>>8943648
it depends on what level on anonymity you want. if you want the artist not to get your name, plenty of options for that, just ask the artist if the payment method they use gives them the clients' names in the bank statements.

personally i take comms via substar so there's no contact between my bank and the clients' and i see nothing about them. i also use ko-fi as an alternative method, i only see the client's country there (depends on how the artist set it up, ask them about a bank statement). some artists use throne though its rare, that one also works, client and creator data is only seen by throne. but honestly even if i knew their name i have literally zero interest in looking them up or something.

but if its a dealbreaker to share data with the payment service itself, then yeah, you really are cutting down your pool of potential artists to comm. make sure you are extremely careful with any paypal prepaid debit fuckery, even something like the same IP address will get you a lifetime ban. they have many automated systems so you will need a new connection, different hardware, usernames, emails, everything.

>>8944251
>handle all communication with the artist using text-to-speech recorded on a cassette tape
I think I can work it out by simply communicating through text.

Anyway, my country suck, it's not possible to buy pre-paid debit card without an ID, here.

>>8944297
>if you want the artist not to get your name
That's basically my main preocupation.

Paypal now defacto include your name in the payment and demand that your user name match your bank account's name.

>>8944310
okay, well, again. my perspective as someone who draws porn for 8hrs a day, i am MUCH more afraid of you about people irl knowing about what i do after work lol. i have zero interest in harming you or leaking your name. not only would it be reputation shattering for the artist but also even if they were subtle and did it on another acc it would require and intense level of mental illness and hatred on their part so it really is a veeery niche scenario. also ive had an apex legends youtuber with 300k subs comm me for futa porn on his main twitter and at least a dozen ppl that post their face and life stuff on there, its just not a huge deal. if you have a job that you'd get fired from or live in a country where porn is illegal then idk, you might have valid considerations. though i know porn artists from myanmar and other such countries but the anti-porn laws are typically for irl stuff not drawings.

but again just ask the artist how their payment methods handle the bank statements, patreon and kofi are anon if set up properly on the artists' end, substar is anon, only substar itself sees your name, the artist gets their payout from subscribestar themselves. your bank makes no contact with the artist's and substar does not divulge personal information to creators/subscribers

>>8944306
I was making a joke there. As for the debit thing, that would take a really extraordinary effort to trace back to you, but if you are really concerned an option could be to pay somebody to buy it for you.

>>8944329
>patreon and kofi are anon if set up properly on the artists' end, substar is anon, only substar itself sees your name
Thanks, I think that's the info I really needed.

>>8944331
>I was making a joke there.
I was on the verge of calling you Dale. Sure read it in his voice.

>>8944333
yeah sorry for the fluff
if you're uncertain about anything just ask the artist in question directly, you're a potential client so they'll be helpful. cheers and good luck

>>8944329
>ive had an apex legends youtuber with 300k subs comm me for futa porn on his main twitter
pyw? I'm curious now because that sounds really funny. not necessarily the comm just your usual arts

Slightly offtopic, I have vague memories of artists here advertising their commissions rates.
Are these threads gone?

>>8944494
IIRC those devolved into massive bitchfits and they were shut down.

>>8944651
Shame, I was looking for artists for nsfw comissions but because twitter has a massive bot problem many artists ignore DMs from strangers

>>8943648
No artist gives a duck about who you are as long as you don’t pull some refund bs

>>8943772
Redpill me on Monero. I've been seeing it around but I'm still skeptical on it.

>>8943672
Whatever happened to the supposed bitmining crash a year or so back, because some crpyto made a change to how transactions are verified? I remember stories of mining farms being broken down and sold for parts, and GPU prices finally going down, but we seem to be back there again.

Crypto itself seem fine, so long as it could prevent people making a stupid tech race out of profiting off it.

>>8943648
If it's not something big, or if the artist is a beginner, you can both agree on indirect payment, such as a top-up/gift on steam, discord nitro, and the like

If it’s any consolation, I’m an NSFW and literally the only time I really even look at names attached to PayPal payments is if I’m going back to doublecheck when someone ordered a commission and for how much (and, considering how rarely the names attached to a PayPal payment are the same as someone’s email/social media handle, it can be WAY harder than you might think to track which real world name is attached to any given commission).

>>8943648
I tick the family/friend option when paying to a paypal.me link.
Only my bullshit business name and email appears to the artist...or so I'm told ¯_(ツ)_/¯

>>8943648
Stripe does not send your name to the seller. Find artists that use that instead of PayPal.
Even further anonymously you could use any site that works as a middleman and allows sending requests without a name: Pixiv, Vgen, Skeb, etc.

Dumb question - how does it work in reverse?

If you’re an artist who wants to start a Patreon, how does you make it so that your real name never gets out?

>>8948546
I think you can set up a company name and use that for transactions, instead of your real name. I've seen people like vtubers do it to use their stage names.

>>8943672
>NO CRYPTO!
Good Anon. It's also the best way to get scammed.

>>8948930
>I can't cry to a bank or PayPal for my own mistakes and have them fix it for me. Therefor it's a scam.
Average Early Access / Kickstarter complainer.

>>8948546
I think going through Ko-fi doesn't display your name.

>>8943648
Tried Kofi?

>>8943648
I do commission work, and honestly unless you have reason to suspect someone wants to do something with your name tied to that commission (which would probably make them not very popular and those people who are interested in harvesting info probably can't support the rest of the network it takes to keep the art going in a public space without being called out) you're probably oversuspicious of something we don't care about or just doesn't happen. I use Paypal and Square, I title the invoices a rough description of the basic details of a comm (number of characters, level of detail, that's about it) and then you're more likely saved as an email than a name, and not even by me, Paypal just saves a log of all that crap.

The info does come across if you pay with a card or something, but I couldn't be assed to remember anyone's name or even connect it to what they paid for, I'd likely have to use email address to track things down and that's only if they were a repeat commission anyway. I've had multiple repeat commissions and they're just an email address to me. If you're trying to be safe and don't want to use crypto then just pick your artists well I guess.

This almost feels like those scams where scammers claim to have footage of you masturbating and they'll release it online if you don't pay them, have you ever fucking seen someone get footage of themselves masturbating online and it actually gets uploaded to their social media or whatever? No, it's a bluff and it's fed by fear of something that could happen in your head but it's not going to realistically. What even do you think someone could do, hunt down your public info and then what, "I'll give this to your wife if you don't pay me forever"?

I'm genuinely curious as to what you think would happen if you commissioned something from an artist that has enough of a backlog of art that you like their work enough to commission it in the worst case scenario.

Fucking captcha

>>8950860
>I'm genuinely curious as to what you think would happen if you commissioned something from an artist that has enough of a backlog of art that you like their work enough to commission it in the worst case scenario.
It's simply that I intend to make SFW and NSFW commisions and I do'nt want people to be able to make connections between the two.

I fear less ill intent and more accidental slip-ups, like someone in a comment of a commission going "oh, I know this guy, I have done some stuff for him too" and people looking into it suddenly discovering my SFW "persona" (for lack of better term) is also into some weird shit.

>>8943648
As an artist who draws porn, most don’t use crypto and don’t care about seeing your name on Venmo and stuff. It affects us just as much as it affects you. We just turn a blind eye.

Artists have more to fear than you do. Especially these days.

>>8952128
>>8952115
>He doesn't know of the honeytraps and dataminers.

>>8943672
People are dumping on you but you have principles you stick to and honestly I respect that.

>>8951429
> like someone in a comment of a commission going "oh, I know this guy, I have done some stuff for him too"
If its a busy artist, I guarantee they'll forget your name within a week of finishing your commission.
Otherwise, just ask them to not talk about your commission? I see artists post commissions without saying who made it all the time. Some artists won't even post your commission themselves if you ask, though some will ask for money to keep it fully private. Assuming you're not going to go around claiming "this is MY art" then yes, you're gonna have the artists climbing up your back.
You gotta remember that to an artist its a business. They want you to return to spend more.

>>8953011
>I guarantee they'll forget your name within a week of finishing your commission.
Not disagreeing with your post overall, but if a commissioner regularly come back to an artist, odds are, they will eventually come to remembering them.

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>Old days: It's generally assumed that all characters in porn are aged up. People just like the designs and personalites and can change stuff like that. (Or they simply don't care, because it's fictional.)
>These days: Even the character's creators can't have a say, and bringing it up with artists feels gambling with your whole online presence

>>8953714
Why stay silent when you can get anonymous applause by violently jerking yourself off from screaming about how other people must be child-fuckers based on what they draw, and your right to call them child-fuckers to everyone before demanding under mob pressure to osctracize them?

>>8943648
DeviantArt acts as middleman, doesn't it?

>>8953847
Thing is, I do'nt think it's possible to withdraw unless you have a core membership, as you have to have a double identification to withdraw and double identification only come with core membership.

But yeah, if you pay someone via DA, the person who receive your money won't get to see your real name.

The actual issue is that many closed down their DA account after they started accepting AI images and training their own AI engine on the art of users who haven't actively withdraw their permission.

>>8943648
send money on the mail

>>8943648
You really shouldn't care op. Unless if you're some sort celebrity, socialite, or politician, you're just a grain of sand on a beach of anons. Infact, you should let everyone know that Anon of The Internet, gladly pays artists for porn.

>>8955478
Good point. Would you please tell me your
>Full Name
>Email address
>Bank Sort Code & Account Number
Full address and any social media accounts are not needed, but appreciated.

>>8955485
Graynins Hand
Sun's O'Beach, Commifornia
80085 5360

>>8955545
You should be seeing hard-core gay porn and identity theft in the next 9-10 business days.

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>>8943648
Would you like to do this commission request if you like it. Commission this idea to digitaldomain123.
https://twitter.com/digidom123

>on idea
Is about Finn from Adventure Time kissing and making out lovingly with his mother Minerva Campbell.

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>>8957481
>commission a twitter artist anonymously
>can't see the commission result because Twitter is asking for my personal ID.
Welp, that solves everything...

>>8957494
They couldn't leave us alone. Couldn't they!

>>8957494
>Says the third-party 'totally not friends of Starmer' companies doing the age checks, will delete the photos you take immediately after.
>Also say they'll be checking the data to see how well the system is working.
I guess if anybody gets in trouble for using Death Stranding to fool the checks, they'd only be outing themselves.

>>8943672
Someone tell this retard how much emissions banks emit, or even funnier, one banking ceos private jet

>>8957494
get him to DM it to you.

>>8957758
It was more of a general comment about the state of Twitter.

>>8943838
Bruh, just don't pay with PayPal! Where are you buying that won't take a straight debit card number??? Individual people? Just put the card into Venmo or Cashapp or something and send through that.

>>8944306
>Anyway, my country suck, it's not possible to buy pre-paid debit card without an ID, here.
Without registering the ID or just checking it to make sure they're not selling a card to a minor?
Because checking your card doesn't matter, joe shmoe who works at the gas station isn't going to remember you or the card numbers or ever have access to your Internet history.

>>8957845
>Just put the card into Venmo or Cashapp
Neither are available in my country.

>>8957845
>Without registering the ID or just checking it to make sure they're not selling a card to a minor?
My real name would be associated with a pre-paid card I would buy and I am not 100% sure, but I think it'll also appear on every transaction I will do.

>>8957855
So it's an ID registration then? Wild.

What overwatch state hellhole do you live in, North Korea?

>>8944832
It's just about the only anti-authoritarian crypto project left. Of course, that means it's always going to be underfunded, underappreciated, and under attack.
There aren't really any other options.

>>8957887
Belgium. And it started being like after the terrorist attack of 2016. And also to fight against money washing and fiscal evasion.

>>8957906
Like, literally, in 2015, prepaid cards were used to prepare the terrorist attack of November 13 and it's after that that many european countries started to make it an obligation to link prepaid cards to an ID.
https://www.rtbf.be/article/les-cartes-prepayees-un-moyen-de-paiement-qui-echappe-aux-reglementations-bancaires-9145472
Thank you very much, Mohamed.

>>8957906
Oh. Then you live within a days drive of like 14 other countries and even have trains. Fucking hell euro.

>>8957481
Odd choice to do.

>>8943672
>That thing is part of what make the planet boil.
>Pay no attention to the cost of producing fiat currency or the continual cost of inflation to the average person while their wealth is stolen from them.

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>>8943648
>>8957494
>>8957761
You use some alternative, like his other site to commission. If they actually accept commission anonymously/private.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/12176392
https://pawoo.net/@DigitalDomain123
https://www.deviantart.com/digidom123
https://www.deviantart.com/digidom123/journal/My-public-server-1189128473
https://www.patreon.com/digitaldomain123
https://ko-fi.com/digitaldomain

>>8957481
Also you still accepting my request, right? I mean if you like the idea.

>>8958645
Both are bad. One is actional immediately on the individual level, the other requires organization on a cross-class level.

>>8943648
Interesting premise, OP.

>>8943648
the best way to handle the fact that it's not the 2000s internet anymore is to act like it is still the 2000s internet. See they're BANKING on you accepting that it's not, but if you don't, there's so little they can do on the whole.
millions of people are doing this, they can't police all of them. just roll the dice. I've been doing it for like 12 years, and I have lots of enemies who would have reported me by now if it was that easy.

>>8944329
this too. it's me who is risking my anonymity

>>8950860
>This almost feels like those scams where scammers claim to have footage of you masturbating and they'll release it online if you don't pay them, have you ever fucking seen someone get footage of themselves masturbating online and it actually gets uploaded to their social media or whatever?
shit, back when the internet was cool, and girls wanted to watch me masturbate, it was hard to get the camera into a good position. The desk kinda blocks it.

>>8943648
How many artist do you commission so far, curious?

>>8957481
>>8958971
babygirl, OP was asking for advice on how to commission artists anonymously. they were not asking for commission ideas. and they certainly are not going to spend their own money on your request. that is not what this thread is about, and also that is not what any thread on 4chan is about. are you insane.

>>8962828
I haven't started yet. That's kind of the point, having only considered doing it recently, this is when I stumbled upon the difficulty of doing it anonymously.

>>8957481
>>8958971
>>8962853
Also, incest is a complete bonner killer for me so this was never going to happen.

>>8943648
so you effectively want a triple-blind way to arrange payment?
would it be possible for you to open a paypal using only burner devices and then buy an american prepaid debit card online, deposit the money from the anonymous american card to the paypal and operate using that?

>>8963590
>would it be possible for you to open a paypal using only burner devices and then buy an american prepaid debit card online
Creating a second private accout goes against paypal's terms of service and, recently, they have been quick to shut down accounts and block transactions when they think it' suspicious. Also, I am pretty sure that importing prepaid US cards in my country is illegal.

>>8943648
as a nsfw artist, i will say to u that none of us care for ur real name or who u are. i barely even remember names of commissioners, if they were single time appearing in my life.
We dont care what sort of loli\zoo\furry\gore\poop porn u want, some might just say "sorry i dont draw that" in a worst case, we dont judge ppl on that at all. its just a job, and its fiction. We just want to do the work and get paid.
Unless u will do some refund bullshit or not paying and making problems - we're dont care at all for anything else besides that.

>>8963662
all rly good points desu. i've seen a hundred commissioner-call-out-posts from artists, but they've never been for anything but trying to scam them lmao

>>8962828
Unless if you're Chinese, British, or a politician, you're already anonymous on the internet.

>>8955571
Where's my porn?

>>8943672
>what make the planet boil
anon, try not to attach your subjective biases to your post, it'll just divide the responses and reduces the pool of those willing to answer you accurately while derailing the topic.

It will farm (you)s though.

>>8943672
Lol loser

>>8957481
This has nothing to do with pay platforms or anonymity, but as an NSFW artist, christ almighty am I already tired of sheltered hyper-autists like this who have no concept of personal boundaries or understand how 99% of other human beings function.

>>8967774
hey anon do you ever get the autists who pay money for comm, but give you little to no support on what they want? Then when its finished they go "okay", no thank you or excitement for the work being done

>>8957481
>>8958971
I wonder how is this work though?

I don't know if this is the place to ask but uhh how much do you usually charge for a comic commission? How do the rates work? Is it per page?