I realized that the loneliness will not go away, so instead of fighting it, I am willing to try and get a girlfriend.The problem is that I am extremely ugly. Even after trying to un-ugly myself with gym, skin-care and grooming I am still like a 2/10. I am an ugly ginger red head, 5'9" manlet, also small penis, just horrendous genetics.So what can a guy like me even do? Is there any dating advice for me or will everything end in me taking my own life anyway?
Women want a partner that represents them well. If you're ugly then they would be embarassed to have you as a partner. Watch how offended women get when you suggest that an ugly person is their boyfriend for example.
just get status. ugly is something that doesn't even move the needle if you're fit and have status
>>33574119cody mauch if you need a ginger example
>>33574126This guy is a 6'6" monster, of course there are women who will date him, he is a professional athlete and very tall.
Go for the hottest looking poor chick you expensive Chad. Unless you are poor, then go for that hot billionaire heiress.
>>33574089He calls 5"9 manlet, you Americans really need to get your fucking reality checkedOr maybe the women in the US have cultivated you into a bunch of height obsessed freaks. Over here we don't care about height that much, everyone cares much more about your looks and who you are as a person, but height has never been an issue. I'm speaking as a 5"7 guy living in the Netherlands - reportedly one of the tallest countries in the world - and I had zero issues with dating here. Height is simply not that big of a factor here and I really feel like I'm being gaslit every time I open the internet and read some American complain that at 5"9 he's a manlet and that an average 5.5 inch dick is a clit, some of you guys are retarded, it's like a brainrot virus
>>33574195I live in Germany. My problem is that I am not only NOT tall but also extremely ugly. It seems though that there is no advice for ugly men. Like nobody is commenting and the rest is just trolling or throwing out nothingburgers. I guess I'll make a new thread about painless suicide methods.
>>33574119Women probably see that nigger as handsome.
>>33574343more like they see that NFL logo and think “Cha-Ching”
>>33574089You don't.If you're one of us uglies, women just assume you're a pedophile.#fuck #america
>>33574089you date in person to find your soul mate
>>33574089I was born deformed yet quickly figured out that plenty of ugly people have significant others. I double-downed on being funny. Eventually I also had to develop social skills.I also had the base level confidence of starting at zero. So talking to women and getting rejected was a significant improvement for me when I started off.Focus on your positive attributes and broadcasting them well. Put yourself in opportunities to interact with people and try new things.An ugly ginger that slides into a room with a sharp outfit and confidence doesn't broadcast "loser". It suggests that he has a secret reason for being confident.
>>33574089Lower your standards. If you're extremely ugly, try to date extremely ugly women. You're a good person. They're also a good person.
>>33574482I know this is a weird answer but where do you find ugly girls? Like due to the gym, running and yoga I am very fit but I tried to join fit activities, ran with a run club, ballroom dance class, yoga class and I didn't find any ugly girls on my level there. Like all the girls were at least cute and a lot were just straight up hot.
>>33574525Look in areas that support sedentary hobbies. Register for and join their in-person meetups.
I am ugly enough that I feel I don't deserve to pass on my genes so I try to ignore any romantic or sexual fantasies that my mind thinks up.
>>33574343No one thinks Lamar Jackson is handsome (except his mom)
>>33574621Based and same
>>33574089You won't believe this because it is one if the ways women differ from men. Of course looks aresomething women consider, but they are not the main thing, and scoring high in other things CAN counterbalance a low score in this one thing.Of at least equal - and sometimes much higher - significance to looks are personality, character, empathy, fun, reliability and, yes, status and money.Build those up.
>>33574089just grow a beard.
>>33574089Find an extremely ugly woman. Problem solved.
>>33578423>He'll always lose to a richer gargoyle."There are many prizes in life that I am happy to not win. Some women are always going to go for the Bigger Better Deal. Losing those women is not a loss to me. Ol' gargy can have them imo.Ironically, the guy in the pic hits the exact right point and glosses over it to seize on that incel gem:"I just had to be someone of value in their minds."Taking that to mean that a guy has to have more money or pretend to be something he's not is a failure of understanding the concept. The goal is to have and broadcast traits that a woman you desire and you yourself both consider to make you "someone of value".This extends further than not having negative traits or basic societal expectations. Be valuable. Excel. Stand out in a positive way in an aspect that you find worth in and the woman does too.On FetLife, I was surprised to be regarded as exceptional simply by being respectful and open minded to other people's kinks.Sometimes it can be as simple as being kind, fun, and a non-drinker in a community of heavy drinkers.
>>33578915>Find an extremely ugly woman. Problem solved.Bwahaha they probably have the biggest ego of em all.
>>33574089I'm pretty sure you're not actually a 2/10 unless you're genetically deformed, but even then, attitude and self confidence takes you a long way, some rockstars are quite ugly but some long hair, skinny coke body and confidence works wonders.thing is you have to believe it yourself, if you don't believe it no one else will either and well... you're convinced you're a 2/10 so it's going to be an uphill battle to learn to love yourself like that.
>>33581066do you read yourselfwomen know their place way before men dodoesn't mean they're going to let a guy run over them just because they are ugly but they know the value they have in the dating market way before dudes realize.
>>33581073uh no you stupid cunt they have thousands of simps online when back in the day they'd be lucky to get some desperate dweeb who'd give em dick
>>33581181lolwhy would anyone be simping for an ugly person when internet shows you 10 pretty people living near you you can simp for? you're not making any sense, if anything social media has made it harder for girls that are meh to get simps compared to guys who didn't know any better and she was her best option in the block and the dude was too lazy to look a bit more.
If you're ugly, cash in what few chips you have and stow away for a long life of loneliness. Don't get yourself hurt by trying to get in a relationship because you can only handle so much of that before you cave in.
>>33581181>they have thousands of simps online>ugly girlsYeah, anon the ugly obese girl is loved by so many simps.
>>33574195It's the same all over Europe, not only that but it is much worse because on average, except for Spain/Italy/France, men are already on average quite tall, and it is even worse if you live up north or around the autistic swamp Germans.
>>33574288drugs ease the pain. you could also try dating a mentally ill land whale but even they have standards.
>>33584567>even they have standards.more like being delusional
>>33574089Wish I could tell you bro. It's barely possible to date as an average (or even good) looking man these days.
>>33574089I'm never going to the gym i'll just buy more weights instead of a membership
>>33574089Easier than dating as an extremely ugly woman.
skill issue, just have a personality
>>33586305does it make a difference?
>>33574089If you're already fit and groomed you're half way there. Just carry yourself well, and change any retard tendencies you may have. Peter Dinklage is a great example. Dude's been married for 20 years. He's physically lost the genetic race but carries himself so masterfully he may as well be over 6 foot despite being a literal dwarf
>>33592576Peter is married to another midget. I don’t think OP wants to date an ugly ginger chick
>>33592588huh? shes fine
>>33592996Just because you don't understand something, that doesn't necessarily mean that it lacks substance.
>>33574288I see tons of ugly and short guys with girlfriends. It's not even an issue. It has nothing to do with your looks and everything to do with your personality.
>>33574525Ask the hot girls for friendship and then see if they'd hook you up with their less attractive friends. A lot of hot chicks have a fat/not so hot girl in their social circle.
>>33592588>I don’t think OP wants to date an ugly ginger chickAnd that's part of his problem.Niggaz be out here crying about "hypergamy" while at the same time wanting to hold out for the hottest girls they can imagine, the ones way out of their league.Champagne taste on a beer budget in other words.
>>33593016I’ll be honest I confused him for that other famous midget, the Ewok midget
>>33593464Warwick Davishttps://youtube.com/shorts/y_zz5H0vVTI?si=sE1oClEGEKrdcMsI
>>33593488that’s the one
idk I'm told all the time "jbw and date a non white woman"I have no problem with the idea of dating non-white girls. However I've never seen a woman of any race express any interest in bald men.I cannot imagine any woman ever expressing interest in me without assuming shes after something else and is trying to manipulate me.
>>33593446I don’t agree with you, all the girls ive been friends with talk shit about short guys and ugly guys, even ones that are strangers just walking down the street. I’ve been at malls and cafeterias before where groups of girls talks shit about these guys.
>>33596140>However I've never seen a woman of any race express any interest in bald men.So you've never once seen a bald man with a wife or a girlfriend?Sorry anon, but that's simply a bold-faced lie unless you never leave your house. Which I suppose is a valid possibility.
>>33596240He’s retarded and wrong, but so are you, because>seen a bald man with a wife or a girlfriend?Does not mean that she likes that cuck. Bald guys with CHAD SKULLS get girls wet though.
>>33596240not any with successful relationships>two different uncles, one who I feel gets used for his money, the other got divorced after marrying an irresponsible mess of a woman who cheated on himI don't necessarily truly think that baldness is a death sentence. But its an objective disadvantage. Its like being 5"4. Unless you have a face that can support it. But thats not common amongst men who go bald.
>>33596289>one who I feel gets used for his money>the other got divorced >woman who cheated on himI don't know how to tell you this anon but these things happen to guys with hair too.
