They look so beautiful to me but I heard that a lot of Anons had bad experiences dating them. How can I get into a healthy relationship with one?
>>33585873>Get a normal girlfriend.>Dress her in goth attireIf you're a gigachad you will make it sexual/playful so this shouldn't be an issue.
It seems like goth girls today don't know shit about the actual scene or music. It's just a visual and fashion thing for them. But if you do meet a real goth girl you'll want to have some knowledge of the music and scene
>>33585873>What's the secret to get a Goth girlfriend?Be goth yourself. A little bit at least.There's several ways to approach it like industrial goth, mallgoth, 80s retro goth, goth-adjacent like being more of a metalhead but still being into goth-adjacent music genres, rockabilly and steampunk and also renaissance faire types are also goth-adjacent, maybe you're not so much into music you're more into horror movies and early tim burton films, etc.In other words, blue jeans and white shirt with a short haircut while listening to kpop or whatever isn't going to impress them
>>33585903>It's just a visual and fashion thing for them.Let's be real it's always been that.Yeah, there's also music, but that's just another aspect of an otherwise superficial subcultureand that's okay, all cultures and subcultures are superficial
>>33585914It's unfortunate because I really enjoy the music. But I rarely ever encounter actual goths who know shit about music or the history
>>33585873>How can I get into a healthy relationship with one?lmao just stick to normal girls OP, trust me bro
>>33585903>But if you do meet a real goth girl you'll want to have some knowledge of the music and sceneIs it an acquired taste? Because I'm not a fun of the music so far
>>33586012>I'm not a fun of the music so farWhich music? There's like a half dozen music subgenres that fall within the umbrella term of goth
>>33586016I really like metal but I'm not a fan of post punk or dark wave
>>33586044There are lots of goth metal groups. What have you listened to as far as post-punk and darkwave?
>>33586071I like The Cure and Sisters of Mercy but I'm not a fan of bands like Nosferatu for instance and I only like a few songs of Siouxsie and The Banshees even though I know they are iconic within the genre; do you have any recommendations?
>>33586130Have you listened to the other big name goth group Bauhaus? I'd start with the album In the Flat Field and their single Bela Lugosi's Dead if not. Maybe you'd be a bigger fan of deathrock. Listen to Christian Death and their first 3 albums. Other bands from that scene include Voodoo Church, Kommunity FK, and Screams for Tina.Clan of Xymox is a classic darkwave group. For modern darkwave you can try bands like The Soft Moon or Drab Majesty which are both great. You might like the band Lycia or their spinoff Bleak toohttps://youtu.be/FGFGsAWR8TM?si=gCqLjkaMH8bTklDl
>>3358587399% of irl goth girls looks like trash, you are just deluded by the few thousand that are on instagram.
>>33586315Thank you so much Anon! As soon as I get some I will give them a listen, much appreciated
This is slightly unrelated but I head Goth girls can be kinky. If I'm on semen retention would they think it's cool or lame?
Bump
First you should try to grow up.Yes, I actually had straight sex many times.
They like guys with shaggy hair who are skinny or only a little chubby, who have sleeves and maybe gauges in their ears. It's sad. They're so hot and they end up with the most boring NPC guys who just brand themselves as edgy when they're not. Well they're probably not even that hot under all the makeup.
>>33585912ngl every goth girl ive seen has a normal ass looking bf, but their bfs are very nerdy. i unironically think they would get along with a male 4chan user as long as they arent retarded and racist (rare), but just outgoing. goth girls and 4chan users will probably share alot of interests. thats just what ive noticed though
>>33590054Shaggy hair, pale, tall, skinny has worked for me. god bless chinese semaglutide.>>33592300I have dated "enbies" while calling myself fascist. If a girl crushes on you she will like you no matter what.
>>33592625depends on type of enbie. some are right wing grifters and they look a bit different, probably more into online stuff, while the majority of the other ones are left wing and they like shit like music and art. but like normie shit. you know what i mean?
>>33585873Modern goth girls are posers who like poser wigger fags. For some reason they care more about surface level appearances than authenticity, which is why they date trend hopping fags who would’ve bullied the alt kids back in middle school but now dress alt because it’s trendy
>>33592625It’s fun to hate fuck annoying sjws
If you're not goth yourself, you should at least be goth-friendly.This means a few things. First, don't be a jerk and a bully about a woman choosing to have goth aesthetics. Respect her drip and her fit in a way that doesn't fetishize and admires instead. Second, understand what music and fashion constitutes goth subculture without being obvious you're trying to get into someone's pants. IF you don't like this on its own merit, it's not going to work.Third, Goth, being a subculture, is generally made up of people who are generally progressive, "woke", or even radical in their outlook. If you are someone who screams about how women should stay in the kitchen or people who dislike God-Emperor President Spray-Paint should be sent to prison camps, you're probably going to have a bad time if you "want a big tiddy goth gf". I hope that helps!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1oSXlU0ZUk
Be a Goth guy that isn't some douchey poser.
>>33585873I've been reading this thread and I listen to the same kind's of music and I could at least partly consider myself goth.Now WHERE do you meet them?
>>33585873There is literally no difference to normal women. I feel sorry for all the stupid faggots that dress like clowns just to score with these type of women and then chad comes in and cums in her ass while sadboi is crying.Some but not all goth girls have very amazing personalities so I am a weirdo in the sense that I am not after them so much for their looks but because of their weirdo personalities.one sadboi called me a tourist one time I just laughed and stole the hottest bitch of the group while wearing a white t-shirt blue jeans and white sneakers
>>33592862These chicks have thousands of dudes simping for them and admiring them. I playfully ribbed a chick for looking like Boxxy and it worked. Teasing works better than being a boring milquetoast simp
>>33592300>goth girls and 4chan users will probably share alot of interests.Such as? Genuinely curious
>how do I get X gfpeople who ask this question don't want a gf (an emotional connection with a real human being) they just crave for some idealized concept of what they think a gf is
>>33594250>goth chicks actually like normie guys who dress like shopping mall mannequinsThere's always one guy like you in goth threads and it is the strangest weirdest cope ever.>one sadboi called me a tourist one time I just laughed and stole the hottest bitch of the group while wearing a white t-shirt blue jeans and white sneakersand then everyone stood up and clapped
My experience with goth/rocker chicks, is that they are all assholes.Mean people who won't hesitate to humiliate and put you down. And if you play the same game? They either go nuclear, or brake down crying about their toxic ex/abusive father/whatever bad men ruined them in the past.My last girlfriend perfect aesthetically, but god damn I couldn't stand being with her anymore. She held all men, including me, as bad, that deserved hate, and treated me like shit. Never again.
>>33595332whatever makes you sleep at night hombre
>>33595328People are allowed to want a specific type of person as a gf.
>>33595431yeah man, you and the "actually, goths and emo kids were LOSERS and we would beat them up" poster always make me laugh.bro was beating up skinny goofy dorks who would then later be having sex with myspace sluts while he went home and jacked off by himself
>>33595332NTA but it's true, doesn't matter if they're nerdy, goth, emo, redneck, preppy, etc. as soon as Chad walks into that room, she wants him.
>>33595398That's because they have BPD from a bad childhood, that's how this one emo girl i knew is, always in a bad mood, always starting drama, always talking shit, but it's mostly because she was abandoned by her birth parents and ended up in foster care, she did end up getting adopted, but obviously knowing your parents don't give a damn about you would ruin anyone's life.
>>33595332Is he really wrong? Everyone want's an attractive person, man or woman.
>>33595548Why would they want Chad?He doesn't listen to their music, he doesn't dress in their fashion, he doesn't mix with their aesthetic, he doesn't live their lifestyle, etc.Of course there are goth "Chads" in that they're just the most charismatic guy in the group, maybe taller and fitter than the other guys, definitely more cool - but cool by goth standards. Same with metalheads or punks or anime nerds and whatever subculture.But some football retard who only listens to wigger rap music isn't going to melt the fish net panty hose off a goth chick when he's like "hey babe do you wanna come to the basketball game with me"Moth goth chicks are into effeminate twink body types anyways.
>>33595561>Is he really wrong?100% unequivocally wrong.>Everyone want's an attractive person, man or woman.Of course, but the whole point of a specific subculture like goth or punk is that their lifestyle and aesthetics are completely removed from mainstream society and often go at odds with it.They want an attractive man, who's attractive by goth standards.Let's have a fun mental exercise and try to reverse the genders. Like OP as a perfect example. He wants an (attractive) goth girlfriend.If you were just like "oh hey dude here, there's this bleached blonde fuckin chick who loooooves Taylor Swift" he would think you're retarded because that's not what he's looking for - even if plenty of other dudes would find that blonde girl attractive.
>>33595533That's not the point I'm making
>>33595580I can see what you mean but for a lot of people they will overlook their preferences if the other person is (moderately) attractive and has an okay personality. I don't mean this in a blackpilled incel way just as the whole subculture/aesthetics take backseat to other traits. Maybe for certain subcultures/certain people it is really important to have certain qualities but I think a lot of people will overlook them.
>>33595564>>33595580nice crashout you sperg nigger
>>33595594As a subculture, their qualification for what is or isn't attractive is completely different. Especially when you get into the more dedicated extreme goths.Just take tattoos, and piercings, for instance. Maybe like half the board would be all "oh gross yucky yuck red flag do not want" while others will be drooling over that. The more piercings the better.Or how some guys like "thick" women with an ass that's like 15 inches deep, while others are disgusted by it.Nevermind goths, even when it comes to normies people will split hairs about what they do or don't find attractive.If someone found generic cookie cutter normies attractive, they wouldn't be goth or whatever kind of alt subculture to begin with.>>33595597thanks man you too
>>33595587what's the point you're making
Idk, but metal chicks go for chad or tall, and someone who can fuck well, I'm not sure about goth girls tho, cause I live in scandinavia and we don't have alot here. They may go for whatever honestly.
>>33595682people are just people bro. A sharp jawline, athletic build and confident demeanor is universally attractive. It's more that as a normie you'll have trouble meeting goth girls in the first place since you probably don't hang out in their circles
>>33595747>A sharp jawline, athletic build and confident demeanor is universally attractive.Yeah sort of sure why not for the sake of the argument, but you clowns are unable to express that without also associating it with the Chad meme.Like I said, there are "Chads" within the goth scene or metal scene or whatever other alt scene in the sense that they're not fat nor not too skinny and they're tall enough and charismatic etc. But they're not "Chad" in the 4chan sense of it where they're a high school football player with short hair who votes Republican or whatever the meme is today.Like even with the wokest most leftist circles the "Chad" is just the guy who is the most appealing to those sensibilities like he's some sort of vegan who also knows how to play acoustic guitar songs about how he's an ally to trans people, and that gets the leftist woke pussy wet while the typical "Chad" would be unappealing to them
>>33595564>He doesn't listen to their musicMost goth/emo girls nowadays will listen to Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eilish, and some other non-alt artists, the last emo girl I met said she loved Frank Ocean, you've clearly never met any of this bitches IRL, and you clearly don't go outside either.
>>33595802NTA but out of curiosity, what if someone is not into the alt scene but is still a nerd in their own way and are apologetic about it, if they are their authentic selves could they still click with a Goth girl?
>>33595813works on my machine, not my problem you hang out with posers
>>33590054>maybe gauges in their earsThat might be a country based thing, gauges in my country went out of popularity permanently by the start of the 10s.
>>33595821I mean it begs the question of why you would be into goth girls while not at least dipping your toe in it? How are you attracted to something while also not having an interest in it?Are you sure you're not just into the like zoomer meme of the big tittied mommy goth gf? her being goth is really secondary to her just being a plap cow.
Do goth girls even exist anymore?I remember it was a popular subculture when I was young. Can't remember the last time I have seen one in person.
>>33595847>Do goth girls even exist anymore?Yes, but there's gonna be a bunch of people arguing that there hasn't been any tr00 goths since 1983 or some shit.
>>33595847There's moderate popularity in Australia, I've seen quite a few goth girls around. Especially Brisbane for some reason, which is bizarre since Brisbane has a climate more like Florida, whereas I'd figure goths would only be in ultra cold states like Victoria.
I'm so fucking sick of "emo" women only dating poser trend hopping losers that arent even alt. It's so fucking hard to find alt women who would actually date alt men
>>33595858The real secret sauce is looking like a wigger faggot narcissist who sags his pants. Modern "emo" women go nuts for this type
>>33595855>Brisbane has a climate more like Florida, whereas I'd figure goths would only be in ultra cold states like Victoria.Marilyn Manson is from Florida>in b4 he's not real gothso is the industrial band Crossbreed from back in the day, there's also Cannibal Corpse though they were originally from New York they shortly move to Florida.I guess the contrast of the sunny weather and sun-bleached normies running around with fake smiles is good for an alternative music scene.
>>33595840In my personal case I'm into the paranormal and I see many goth girls into some paranormal themes but I'm not really into the music and I heard some of them can be kinky while in my case I'm trying to stay away from that kind of scene but I think there's this shared love for the paranormal
Cannibal Corpse is for tourists. Listen to Internal Bleeding, Pyrexia, Scattered Remnants, Dehumanized, Mortal Decay, Traumaside
>TFW too weird for the normies but too stable and responsible for alt chicks
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>>33595858I hate that illegible logos are now trendy https://www.tiktok.com/@umeshiso_/video/7470605932892982574
>>33595891>but I'm not really into the musicWhat do you listen to? K-pop? "goth" music can mean like 15 different things. Some of it is just music you sit around and be sad to, or be angry to, but some of it you can also dance to.I guess some goths are into the paranormal, but in my experience not so much. You'd have better odds with like wiccan girls and those renaissance fair girls, which are goth-adjacent.but like I said, you gotta throw them a bone as well and appeal to their own interests and sensibilities beyond just talking about ghosts if they're also into that.
>>33595937I listen to metal music but on the "lighter" side like Heavy Metal or Power Metal, I like some Melodeath too so that's something but I don't really enjoy darker themes that are more edgy, I prefer more heroic or fantasy themesI also enjoy horror movies and books though, and comics too. So that's something. I guess I have a few nerdy interests that align with the horror community in a way
>>33595884I suppose it is, just always felt a little weird to see fully kitted out goth girls in what is essentially Miami since that clothing looked like it would be too warm for the humidity. It was never surprising to see it in Victoria/Melbourne since it's always so cold and grey here virtually all year round.
>>33595976Yeah that's not too far removed from the goth world.but first impressions and all, you need to also present yourself as goth/alt to some degree at a minimum
>>33595976https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lFv-Sk9qpM
>>33595993Are they always kinky though? I don't know if that's a myth but I'm more traditional in that sense despite loving the aesthetic, the subculture aspect of it is not a problem but the kinky aspect would be
>>33596019I do like this one honestly
>>33596030>Are they always kinky though?kind of a coin flip, but the same is true of non-goths as well.
>>33595891>In my personal case I'm into the paranormal and I see many goth girls into some paranormal themesMarilyn Manson said he heard ghosts on his tapes when recording/mixing his first album with Trent Reznor at the sharon tate murder house there's a fun fact to bridge the goth-paranormal enthusiast word.
>>33585873Put on the Cure, Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, ect. and see if they react. If not, you got yourself a fake goth and it will fail. GL anon
>>33585873getting goth skank pussy was easy mode for me when I had long hair, I used to look like a twink which is the type of guys goth skanks go for
>>33585912>Be goth yourself. A little bit at least.I was always a metalhead but dressed goth I suppose
>>33595548>NTA but it's true, doesn't matter if they're nerdy, goth, emo, redneck, preppy, etc. as soon as Chad walks into that room, she wants him.if you've ever been to a goth bdsm party you'll know that's not the case, unironically the faggiest guys had 10/10 goth gfs like supermodel types
>>33596390Marilyn Mason's name is Brian Warner and he was always a dweeb jej
>>33596599>goth bdsm partySounds like something only gross fat people do. Cringe.
>>33596666it was mostly gross fat people but I'll tell you this there were some 10/10s, it was a weird mix
I am not into the extreme goth girls, I like fairly normal alt girls mostly because they are weirdos, would like them also if they dressed like normies.My last date was with a 19 year old hardcore goth girl with piercings all over her face and really cool outfits. She was weirdly shy and did not have much confidence, took me like 2 days to get her out on a "date".What works is being normal and dark humor while looking good. we clicked instantly and one evening we were at a place and her friends came over and first they were like WHO TF is that? and then I talked to them and one of her friends tried to steal me away from her. Point being, there is no hard and fast rule to rule them all. Individuals you know. I asked her what she liked about our situation and she said "The contrast" pic related
I have always dated stacy, she is always happy, friendly and looks hot AF. all my girlfriends looked almost exactly the same, but now for some reason I am attracted to alt girls because they are usually weird and quirky. The only problem I have faced (or she has faced really) is that normie girls give her dirty looks when we are walking around. We talked about it and she is kind of cool with it because she feels like her outfit isn't her so it's not her they are looking at. (Female logic shrug.png) anyways, I know I am generalizing but if you like weirdos with dark humor and shit taste in music these girls are the ones to go for. also there is something very beautiful about the pale skin black/dark red hair look. Maybe I am just going crazy as I am getting older shrug2.tiffthank you for your attention to this matter!
>>33598251forgot the pic (semi-related)
