>>33588811
Masturbating too much affects your mood. The healthiest is to masturbate every 2 days, it's recommended by urologists that way too. Watching porn and masturbating, or the lack of, doesn't affect relationships.

Go to a therapist if you want a relationship, there's too much to learn.

>>33588844
>Masturbating too much affects your mood
>masturbate every 2 days
lol

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Fertility symbols and sexual art have existed for tens of thousands of years, video pornography for maybe a century if you're being generous, and the era of internet porn for around thirty years (I'd argue more like fifteen in its current form, with the last ten years seeing a rapid influx with the modern internet). We're evolved to handle the first form and not the latter two. So, the solution is to try and emulate that and get off with less, more vanilla content in a restricted environment such as a solo photo set or something. Less images would also naturally reduce how much time and thought you spend on the deed since you haven't got the infinite novelty. You'll actually get a bit bored and want to nut and move on if you spend more than twenty minutes on it, which is a fairly normal duration for actual sex outside foreplay and crap.
>Isn't masturbation healthy in some capacity?
It is in the sense that it isn't unhealthy to do it. I feel like when people hear the phrase "masturbation is healthy" they forget what it actually means is "masturbation is normal and you don't have to put people in straitjackets, give them electroshock treatment, force feed them corn flakes and send them to bible camp because they touch themselves at night". They miss the point and think it's like their five a day or something.

Boring.

>>33588811
Masturbation at a sensible level is physically healthy, but any level of porn consumption is not, and if you're addicted to porn you are also addicted to masturbation.

It's not true that you need to give up masturbation entirely, but you do need to give up porn completely, and you should keep masturbation to the absolute minimum necessary to be physically comfortable: ejaculate as fast as you possibly can, and do it to relieve discomfort, not for pleasure.

You'll need to keep that up for at least several months, possibly longer, until you have genuinely got out of the habit of masturbating to excess. Once you have you can gradually begin doing it again, but you need to reintroduce it carefully, and make sure it's not getting out of control.

>>33588811
If you masturbate without porn you will get back to porn eventually.
Same thing with edging only, you will get back to masturbate and to porn again.
I tried.
I think the best solutions is to give up masturbation and edging.

>go to bed
>with my hard dick

>wake up
>with my hard dick

>try to piss
>with my hard dick

>make breakfast
>slam fridge door on my hard dick

>drive to work
>with my hard dick

>accidentally knock over a cup of coffee on coworker's desk
>with my hard dick

>get fired for sexual harassment
>with my hard dick

Finally, I am achieving nofap powers

>>33588811
I tried masturbating without porn for a long time, using only imagination and memories, it definitely is helpful and you get that boost they talk about with nofap. Conversations with women were smoother. But it wasn't magic, women somehow feel more at ease with you but they dont jump to take your clothes off. And it made masturbating take way longer, so I went back to masturbating with porn because the benefits aren't that great.

>>33588957
Agreed. Porn is the best thing ever. Always mastubate with porn. Porn is good and healthy for you.

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>>33588811
>quit porn
>get POIS
fuck my life

>>33588811
It's called having an imagination. I can conjure uo FAR more erotic pictures or stories than anything someone else does

>>33593010
That's nice. I'll just stick to my porn which satisfies me in every single way possible.

>>33588811
Reminds me of the people who say to stop eating fruits because sugar is unhealthy

>>33588811
If you can't get a girlfriend, then you can't ejaculate and that's the healthiest thing you can do. Don't watch porn at all or masturbate at all. I'm 36 and I stopped masturbating at around 18-19 years old an I've went 1-2 years at a time without sex or even ejaculating. The semen just builds up in your sac an makes your dick bigger. When you masturbate a lot, it keeps your shit small and from growing. Masturbation causes all kinds of health problems and stunts growth.

>>33593571
Semen doesn't build up and makes your dick bigger. What kind of broscience bullshit is that?

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>>33593571
>The semen just builds up in your sac an makes your dick bigger.
Ladies and gentlemen the 4chan retard of the year award goes to :D

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>>33593571
>The semen just builds up in your sac an makes your dick bigger.

>>33593571
>When you masturbate a lot, it keeps your shit small and from growing.
Uh, I'm 40 and I have a 9 inch dick. I've been masturbating everyday to porn since I was 10, so uhhh... might wanna rethink that one, buddy.

>Masturbation causes all kinds of health problems and stunts growth.
How are people this stupid? I really don't fucking get it.

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>>33593571
>The semen just builds up in your sac an makes your dick bigger.
>Masturbation causes all kinds of health problems and stunts growth.

What?

is it seriously healthier (mentally/emotionally) to stop using porn to masturbate? i can use my internal hard drive but as of late I rely more on memories of fav porn scenes than irl experiences, doesn't help that i've only had one gf and most of my irl experiences are mediocre ons

>>33588811
When fap with my mind there is no danger if seeing blacked garbage, so it is better but it is also harder because with porn there is more action.

>>33588873
Lol yeah masturbating once every 2 days is like a lot, ha ha. Really too much yeah.

>>33593831
Really? I masturbate for like 3 hours a day. It's a lot of fun.

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>>33593827
oh come on it's just porn you guys are getting retarded with this shit

>>33593867
No it's not, blacked like bestiality, NTR and scar is degenerate.

I did a standing sperm splash today and it was kind of fun, I had forgotten how much fun it is to fap without porn. (3 weeks off) I have had zero issues weirdly enough and don't feel drained after a good session. I will give myself 3 months of fap-as-you-want and then to solidify the noporn and then I will rein in my cum festival and try to balance it out

>>33588811
So basically this bitch is telling me I can't do anything sexual for my entire life

>>33594232
>the no porn cult
lol... lmao even

>>33588811
>porn addiction
I personally believe that's bullshit. People get so hung up on sex it's so unreal. You cannot be addicted to porn. You need porn. Porn is nothing but images on a screen. The addiction is a fabrication of your own mind which you continue to feed by believing it's an addiction.

>Isn't masturbation healthy in some capacity?
Yes. Especially with porn. The more you do it, the better. Do it as many times as you can. It's extremely healthy.

What's unhealthy is the belief that you think it's unhealthy. Therefore you create these thoughts of shame and guilt or whatever in your mind. And for what? Who are you helping by believing porn and masturbation is bad? Nobody, that's who.

Cut that shit out and start masturbating and looking at porn today and enjoy your fucking self. Life is too short for this fucking bullshit.

Motherfuckers act like porn is heroin. Absolutely retarded.

>>33594284
Yeah

>>33588811
>This doctor seems to think...
OP what the fucking fuck? You are watching a fucking advertisement from some "doctor" on youtube that is trying to get you to buy their "course."

That should automatically make you disregard ANYTHING that comes out of their mouth.

Anybody can make a youtube channel and call themselves a doctor. Holy fucking shit OP, don't be so gullible.

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>be recovering coomer
I just don't wanna masturbate anymore because it's tiresome and brings me no pleasure at this point: it just feels dirty. I tried watching a few "nofap" videos to make me stop being a coomer, and all I saw was a bunch of grifters.
Dudes with sad piano music in the background talking about real change while trying to sell you some garbage book or supplement pills. Some woman (claims to be a doctor) trying to sell a "brain healing headband" and some Wojak-looking bastard talking about how he's doing "the spartan mode," which includes no entertainment using screens... so how did he made/edit the video? How would other "spartans" find it?
Even that famous "easypeasy" method book had a line that bothered me, which was:
>"The only aid will be the touch, sight and scent of your partner"
Doesn't really help if you don't have a partner, right?
Anyway, I'm not telling you to just surrender to masturbation and coom 24/7. If the addiction is bothering you (like it bothers me), by all means, develop your own way to control your urges and keep yourself busy, just don't expect that not touching your dick for 90 days will magically fix all of your life problems, will give you "superpowers" (like the nofap redditors tell you) or that these grifters from youtube have a secret formula that will solve everything.

TL,DR: Beware of porn addiction, but also of NoFap grifters.

>>33588811
Who cares what some random retarded youtube video says.
I watched practically no porn for years and years because of lack of free time, lack of privacy, and thinking using my imagination is better for my brain. But then recently I watched porn and came to the conclusion: I should watch it more often. It's faster, and using your imagination for years gets you into a frustrating rut.
Also it's weird watching porn after not watching it for years. It's like being a time traveler. People in porn are fatter now, even in animated porn. And so many tattoos. And now major sites chastise you for looking up keywords that were okay before, like looking up bus/subway grope videos. Those were one of favorite categories, it's not like I expect them to be real.
Anyway. Don't ever let anyone shame you for your sexual expression, especially shit you are doing literally by yourself in privacy. Use porn in moderation folks.

>>33594387
Jew.

>>33595438
>Use porn in moderation folks.
Fuck moderation. I use porn until I'm satisfied. Which is very often.

>>33595443
kek I'm black actually

>>33595467
icky!

>>33595438
>And now major sites chastise you for looking up keywords that were okay before
lol I noticed they never have schoolgirl or barely legal teen porn anymore lol that stuff was awesome

>>33588811
When I do it without porn i'm thinking about actual sex i've had so maybe you need to become a sex haver.

>>33595681
Well maybe you need to give me those women you had sex with cause my ass be thirsty as fuck.

kek

>>33588811
Ive gone porn free for a month now. I dont know, its got me more driven for whatever that is worth.

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If you really want to cut down on porn, you need to acknowledge that you have a physical need to shoot loads. It's like having a food addiction, you need it to survive, so going cold turkey isn't really an option. Therefore, you have to re-establish a healthy relationship with masturbating. For me, I wanted to make sure it didn't consume my entire day. Nowadays I do it about 1 per week then go about my business. Sometimes I'll even make it 2 weeks when I'm really busy. Those are good signs ime
You certainly need to find other things that you enjoy doing throughout the day, as well as take pride in your work.
If you have a bad day where you fap 5 times and just completely saps your energy and self-esteem, oh well, tomorrow is a new day, try again.

>>33598364
you know christians experience the same thing when they do something in the name of god

higher calling and all that

just something to think about

>>33598691
I have unlimited dry orgasms, I have no need to shoot loads.

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>>33588811
this sounds like "driving across the country without gps?!" kids for more than 2 million years we and our ancestors have been pulling our dicks without modern porn. the two differences today compared to even when I grew up is the raw abundance and the fact that most of y'all are cutfags and can't find real satisfaction anywhere.

also bonus for getting this shit from a woman. god damn your generations are fucked.

>>33598691
ey what's that picture from?

>>33598766
a camera most likely

>>33598763
It's not the same because back in the tribal days, sex was much as easier to get. When you were a little boy an older woman would "initiate" you or something. People had sex younger. Sharing partners, having sex in groups or "in public" is common in tribal societies.

>>33598777
very fucking funny you fucking shit lol
now tell me where it actually came from

>>33588811
Have fun anon. A relationship that isn't ideal for you will also make this worse. What I've found is that it's just a void that you are trying to fill. For me it was this arousal type of intimacy I get from talking to women that are actually interested and attracted to me. So far that is the only thing that works to keep the porn and masturbation at bay. I guess ask yourself what part of the porn are you most attracted to? The build up? The sex part? The end?

>>33595351
I've watched one of those "doctors" from YouTube and the bitch unironically recommended a chastity device. She also mentioned that there are ways of getting off while wearing it, but she wasn't gonna tell. Legit insane.

>>33599082
oh what a tease ;)

>>33588811
I fap without porn most of the time.

>>33599346
most huh

>>33594358
Shalom

>>33588811
Don't masturbate unless you're horny. If you're horny, then you shouldn't need porn to get off. Just stroke it a few times and BOOM.

>>33599864
If I'm horny I need porn I'm not masturbating to the air kek