Thinking of visiting an escort to get over my onitis since despite getting matches OLD that things never go anywhere because I hate dating and just want to fuck.

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>>33622117
Where can I meet emo/scene girls?

>>33622130
Zoomer emos are all posers. They are emo/scene because they have BPD and are adopting a consumable aesthetic because it is the way they cope with how BPD strips them of having an actual personality. You don't want to date women like that. Most of them aren't actually even into emo music and just listen to $uicideboy$ or Sleep Token or that one Deftones song that got popular on TikTok

>>33622130
nose ring theory is real

mall goths are not goths, it's just an aesthetic for women who are actually incredibly conventional and not independent thinkers

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Ok so is the third time i held eye contact with this girl in the gym for like 3-5sec. Shes hot, looks a bit older than me, maybe 25. The thing is a never spoke (never kissed one) to a woman before, no idea how to approach her. Any tips?

>>33622130
If you’re trying to find the “real deal” emo, goth, or scene girls then I suggest finding local emo/goth/indie/hardcore shows and going to those. They’re cheap, you can maybe make some friends, and even find a girl there if you’re not a creep.

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>>33622682
you pretty fucked up man.

>>33622682
my sleeves smell like bread

Should have fucked the mid 40s looking train inspection lady who said I looked like John Mayer
She looked good for her age, probably would have cured all my problems with women

>>33622682
based

>>33622117
If I'm talking to a girl and she starts to blush/turn red is that a good sign? She gives strong eye contact as soon as I walk in the room.

>>33623312
>If I'm talking to a girl and she starts to blush/turn red is that a good sign?
no, she just tries to hold her breath as long as possible

I have no idea how to talk to women. A lot of the time I'll ask for advice here and it boils down to "just do it, it's no big deal if you fail" or here's a way to be more attractive, do that and then do it." but I had a super controlling mom and a pussy dad who would lecture me and/or cry whenever I wasn't mama's little boy, or when I wanted to pick out my own clothes in high school, and would either laugh at me or just act weirded out whenever I had any questions about sex, or even saw people kissing on tv (oooooOOOOOOooo anon has a girlfriend!) They sleep in separate bedrooms and he's a complete doormat who blames me when she's on the warpath because of something I said or implied that gave her no choice but to scream at me, and treats me like an asshole when I do anything but take it.

When it comes time to just talk to women, I just can't think of what to say. I knew what I grew up with is utter insanity, and I finally cut them out of my life (it was more difficult than it sounds, psychological stuff aside lawyers were involved) but I'm in my 40s and I have no idea how to recover. I've tried going to therapy, but they're full of feminist bullshit and don't actually care about men being emasculated, at least around here.

How do I fix myself? I've gotten laid a few times but it's from women in chatrooms with slutty names.

>>33623365
male therapists, aim for free trial sessions, guide convo during it in a way that helps you sniff out which school of thought and approaches they'd use, switch to the next one when it's the manhater delusions stuff

>>33623370
That's a good thought. It seems like every shrink around here does cognitive behavioral therapy, which is just gaslighting you pay for in my opinion. Maybe they have "I do X, Y, and cbt!". I remember looking at a list and just getting pissed off. They all sound like my dad too, all passive aggressive guiding questions and putting words in your mouth. And CBT people don't take no for an answer. It's like "So why don't you like CBT? Mmmmhmm. mmmhmm. So you're saying maybe you should try again and see if you click? Did you know that CBT is evidence based? You see this as an argument, why is that?" You just can't say no.

Still, that's a direction I should start looking for again. Maybe I could find someone online, I've tried searching for things like I hate CBT to no avail, but maybe I could try keywords like anti-feminist or conservative.

Thanks for the ideas!

>>33623389
cbt can absolutely be helpful, but it depends on what it's used for. It's a useful tool to adjust your reactions, but much like various types of meditations, it can often be used too far to get you too comfortable with your shit situation. So yeah, if you've had too many failures with previous CBT shrinks, it most likely makes sense to try other stuff first.
>anti-feminist
iunno, (((radfem))) shit is cray but anti-feminism therapy sounds to me like sending women to "anti-man" therapy and expecting them to not get even crazier
>conservative
possibly
main thing is you'll want some role-model-like ideal to work towards, to basically uncuck yourself from the absolutely cucked and crazy home environment that you were cursed with, while also not going full retard in the other direction

>>33623317
Hate it when girl do this

>>33623401
>iunno, (((radfem))) shit is cray but anti-feminism therapy sounds to me like sending women to "anti-man"

Feminism is just marxism applied to genders, and being anti feminism has nothing to do with people anti woman, anymore than being against blm makes you anti black.

Every feminist thinks they aren't one of the woke feminists, but you are.

>>33623414
imma be honest with you mane im too lazy for an internet argument, jus "anti-feminism" gives me similar smellz to """anti"""fa, and well yeah

>>33623422
What you smell is none of my business, my feminist friend.

""anti-feminism" gives me similar smellz to """anti"""fa"

Not liking a political movement that discriminates against you is totally like beating people up on the street because you don't like what they say. They both have anti in the name so it's pretty much the same thing. Hurrr.

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I believe I can't commit in a relationship if she doesn't have big tits. Anyone is a similar position? maybe with ass?

>>33623442
lol
lmao even

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reminder that to attract women, you have to stop thinking about what attracts you to women and start thinking like a woman

-status cues
-mate choice copying (do other women preselect you)
-access to resources

it's not your ugly nose or whatever that's driving them away on dating apps

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I have no idea where to go to meet women...

Anyone else deeply craving sex and affection but just can't be bothered to put yourself out there thanks to repeated bad experiences, failed relationships, and heartbreaks?
How do I want to get women again?

>>33623595
Dating apps
>>33623602
No
Find a good one

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>>33623602
yeah, me

>>33623602
discontinue the porn

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Men have declared spiritual jihad on women and it shows as they slowly begin to lose it. This is it anons, the real gender war has begun, not the fake one with countless pronouns that is being shilled everywhere in the media, but the real gender war between man and woman.
Women are about to learn a harsh lesson.

Don't talk to women, don't help them, don't ask them out, don't have dating apps, don't interact with them. If a woman approaches you be nice and respectful but do not flirt or overtly joke, treat them as an equal man and then leave after the reason for the conversation is over. If a girl comes up to you and flirts kindly turn her down, if she asks you out suddenly say no thank you, don't make up a reason she only has agency because of some external reason not because she likes you. Be vague when talking about your life or weekend plans, anything you do or do with them like hooking up will be picked apart and analyzed by her and her online friends. You are a traitor and not helping anyone if you fall for their tricks.
If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

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>>33623602
yes. But I managed to pull trough.
Keep Leo Esaki's 1st rule in mind. Don't let the past affect your perception of the future.
Get out there, learn from mistakes, try again. Women are very different.

>>33623629
>pic
written by a man

How to break the fear of hitting up beautiful women?

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Do you think women can sense if you are a porn abuser? I have been trying to cut back on the porn use because it makes me feel awful. However, I feel even worse when not abusing porn because then my mind gets clouded by sexual things. Dumb stuff like imagining random women naked. What is the fine balance? I don't even like talking to women when I am like this because I feel uneven. I don't feel collected.

>>33623762
>Dumb stuff like imagining random women naked.
pretty sure that's normal

>>33623762
I was with someone for 9 years and she never knew I had a porn addiction. I kept her away from my PC at all times.

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>>33623769
How do you know if you are actually a porn addict? Sometimes I think I am addicted but outside looking in, I don't know if thats true. I can regularly stop looking at porn for 1-2 months(usually not 3 months). I brought my masturbation down to 1-2 times a week at one point. I can still masturbate without porn and I still can get strong erections without porn. So what constitutes as being addicted to porn? To me, I think I was making it out to be "If you watch porn at all, then you are addicted." But is that true in your opinion? If I could watch porn 1-2 times a week, I think I'd be fine. But then I replaced the word "porn" with "fentanyl" and then it sounds insane. "If I could just do fent 1-2 times a week, I'd be fine." Is that even a good comparison?

>>33623822
nta, but I think comparing to any physical drug is a bit dicey, especially something as intense as fentanyl.

The line is pretty blurry for when it goes from being a habit to an addiction, so a firm number won't work for everyone. I think it's better think about when it becomes problematic in your life. If it is your only source of emotional regulation (relieving stress or wanting to escape what you see as the dullness of your life) or you end up gooning for hours a day, neglecting responsibilities or not pursuing otherwise enriching activities, then I would say it's problematic (speaking from personal experience currently).

The question of addiction becomes more relevant when you consider how looking at porn affects your enjoyment of other things in your life, like if it's the only thing that really makes you feel good, it's probably safe to label it an addiction.

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>>33623955
I see what you mean. I think for me its tricky because I am in my early 30's. Masturbation and porn has been the only thing I ever known in regard to sex. I have never had sex and my first exposure to sex was via porn. Do you think its possible to ever use porn in a healthy capacity? or rather in a capacity that isn't harmful to me? My perceived struggle with porn has basically made me feel really ugly about sexuality in general and I only see it in a negative light. To me, there is nothing good about sex or porn or masturbating but that isn't how regular people see it which means how I see it is probably wrong. I would love to have a good outlook on sex but not sure how I can get to that point.

I could do with some copium
After realizing my hair receeded to much and looked bad, I shaved it.
After embracing being bald, I haven't talked or interracted with women. I haven't even tried because I feel im too ugly.
Basically just accepted that I cannot be decent looking until I save enough money to get a hair transplant.

>>33624415
idiot. I lost 2 fingers in my hand at 22 and I thought I'd never get pussy ever again. Turns out I did. Women aren't all demonic. Some have good hearts and will empathize with you. get the fuck out there and try.

>>33624264
>Do you think its possible to ever use porn in a healthy capacity?
not that anon but someone abstaining from masturbating for over half a year now, i am so much more healthy mentally

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I just got diagnosed with ADHD. It's fucking over. I always suspected shit like this or autism because people never really liked me. I have maybe 2-3 "friends" i meet up with regularly but i was never popular or invited to parties or hangouts. When in uni i managed to get to a group beer meeting suddenly i had to hear how the girls/guys i was with talk about the 20 fucking meetings inbetween and crazy adventures i wasn't invited to and feel like shit about it.

I'm past uni at 27, 28 in few months. Is it fucking over?

>>33625005
It's only over if you spend your free time and energy pissing and shitting yourself that it's over. You're fine. Just do your work and don't be a fag and thing will sort themselves out.

>>33625005
I started at 27

>Neet with nothing in my life in order
Should I even bother talking to women right now?

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>incel for four years
>finally a girl shows interest
>we start hanging out, kiss, start fucking soon after
>it's very underwhelming and I'm bored most of the time
>she's cute with a nice ass and doesn't make me wear a condom but it does nothing for me
>we're supposed to hang out tonight
>keep wondering whether I should cancel and stay home working on hobbies

h-have I ascended?

>>33625569
I think the longer you go with no human connections the harder it is to reform them. It's like a muscle, use it or lose it.

>>33625593
I think you're right anon. I've felt like a ghost all these years. I can still talk to people and crack jokes and flirt with women but something's missing in it all.
I'll hang out with her tonight

>>33625569
How did you escape anon?

t. incel since birth basically

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>female associate
>message each other ever so often maybe a convo every other month or so, no biggie
>always seemed eager to talk, engaging and friendly
>Recently feel a shift
>Responses are short, closed off and convo ending

What the fuck? What did I do?

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>>33622130
>Where can I meet emo/scene girls?
these days, from what I experienced recently- they are at every car show, car meet or underground type of car gathering. The type of girls who are into obscure stuff like Japan car drifting- also like obscure fashion like goth/emo/punk. Last night, a "harajuku goth" type of cute Zoomer girl was checking out my drift car at a car show. You can't be a brokie- you at least need to have some money because they would want to be pampered or taken somewhere. They may not eat, but they would like to go places to take photos too etc.

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>>33625788
>What the fuck? What did I do?
she is getting dicked down by someone else, and it isn't you.
>every other month or so, no biggie
you took too long faggot. You shouldn't be talking to coworkers anyway. But if you were honest about what you want out of life, you would have clapped cheeks around the first month of flirt conversation. You can't win them all and you lose some in life. Git gud next time bitch nigga.

>>33625804
>coworker
I never said coworker, it's an online friend(?) I get to see maybe once or twice a year. She's also got a BF so

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>>33625809
>She's also got a BF so
so stop crying about it faggot

>>33625813
You're tryin way too hard dude, I'm just wondering where this 180 came from

>>33625809
>BF

why are you even trying

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>>33625817
Where did I even allude to trying anything? If a friend starts acting different outta nowhere, you're not gonna be curious?

>>33625569
think of the incels who would like to be in your place and shut up

>>33625824
read the thread title

>>33625831
Fair enough, solid point, but nah I'm not trying anything, just makes my mind race wondering if I did something, or if someone said something about me. Meh, whatever.

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>>33625844
>I'm not trying anything, just makes my mind race wondering if I did something
this the type of nigga who puts himself in the friend zone on purpose- thinking girls actually want guy friends around. ngmi bitchmade anon

>>33623629
This but unironically. I won't approach women or use dating apps, since every women I have dated, met, or talked to online was crazy, controlling, or uninterested in a relationship. Typically, they just wanted attention. Sure, I fell for the bait, or they tricked me long enough into thinking they could be someone special, but it always ended poorly. I'd bend over backwards and do almost anything for them, within reason, which led to being taken advantage of - to which I said, no more. I'm perfectly fine with being single now or for life. If a woman is truly attracted to me, then she can make it known without playing games. That's the kind of woman I want anyway.

>>33624264
>Do you think its possible to ever use porn in a healthy capacity? or rather in a capacity that isn't harmful to me?

Of course, it make take some work though. I lost my virginity in my early 30's with an escort and I've only had sex with escorts since. Before and in the time between it's strictly porn for me too, so I can relate.

You use "ugly" to describe your current view of sexuality and say "there is nothing good about sex or porn or masturbating," which to me sounds like there's shame behind it. Just with this mindset, I think it would be very difficult to have a healthy relationship with porn or masturbation or even sex for that matter. I'd really recommend taking some time to think deeply about where these negative associations regarding sexuality come from; did you get caught masturbating as a child and your parent(s) punished or shamed you? Where you bullied or teased when people found out you had a crush on a popular girl? Or maybe you just come from a very conservative culture which shuns open expression of sex and desire.

I'm assuming this was you:
>I feel even worse when not abusing porn because then my mind gets clouded by sexual things. Dumb stuff like imagining random women naked.
You sound guilty for having sexual thoughts about women when you haven't been masturbating to keep that "beast" at bay, so to speak. In that case, if jerking off and watching porn 1 or 2 times a week helps you avoid that type of thinking, I would say it's a healthy thing to engage in. But, also keep the bigger picture in mind: do you want to be having sex? Do you want a relationship? Then if you find that looking at porn at all is keeping you from that, you're going to have to reorient to figure out how you can get your needs fulfilled while also pursuing the "real" thing.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

I failed again to ask a girl working at the cafe how her day was going, but I was able to make eye contact and smile at her when she brought me my coffee. She smiled back and she had such a very sweet smile and nice brown eyes. It made me feel very nice. I hope that I can find a girlfriend one day if I keep this up. Tomorrow I will go practice with women at coffee shops near my work

>>33623365
>but I had a super controlling mom and a pussy dad
>whenever I had any questions about sex, or even saw people kissing on tv
>I'm in my 40s and I have no idea how to recover
the first is growing up. Seriously. It's accepting that whatever situation you find yourself in right now is within your control and capability to change YOURSELF. There is no one to blame but yourself. Your parents did their best and probably have their own preconceived notions about those topics anyway. Now that you are an adult, you have no excuse- no one else to blame.
>When it comes time to just talk to women, I just can't think of what to say
even niggers know how to talk to all sort of women. Put yourself in their frame to learn- they drop all social mannerism, tradition, social cues, norms and accepted societal truths to talk to women. They just go for what they want, they do not care about the immediate results or consequences (I don't believe they ever do anyway). That is what attracts women first; before the talking, before the physical attraction, before anything- its the confidence to even go up to say something to a woman because you found them attractive or to your interest. If you can't muster this, you have already failed at the very basic level.
>How do I fix myself?
stop blaming others first- you are you own human being now. Responsible for your own actions and thoughts. That also means being able to learn new things and from old mistakes. If younger women than you of today prefer men now who look after their physical stature- you must be open to doing the same to compete with other men. If they prefer men today who have a certain kind of lifestyle, do self-reflection of what yours is now- and make moves to be more appealing.
>I've gotten laid a few times but it's from women in chatrooms with slutty names.
stop hiding behind the digital world. Actually go out into the world, in real life and meet women outside. You might be surprised how easy it is

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>>33623731
when I was younger, I had anxiety about talking to women in general because my dad never taught me how. So I started challenging myself to talk and meet with stranger women in public settings. Literally just approaching them and attempting conversation. I failed many times, but there were also successful interactions. Eventually got over the anxiety from repeated practice and experience.
>hitting up beautiful women?
This is like a level-up from before. Once you got the hang of talking to below-average looking women and then average-looking, came the time to talk to the most desirable women. In certain settings like public spaces meant for socializing, it is more difficult; you face competition from other like-minded men who also want to talk to beautiful women. So the challenge comes with understanding specific socializing skills. Not only do you need to learn how to talk to beautiful women, you also have to learn how to defend yourself from other competitors who want to do the same. Its a high-skill type of deal. In other settings however, I would say it is not the case. In university for example- the setting is more relaxed and the competition is less fierce talking to pretty girls as other men aren't all trying to get her. Friend group social-outings also works for this as it is a small-enough group where competition wouldn't pose much challenge. Eventually, you will learn how to deal with beautiful women. Things like dealing with those with extremely high egos due to their beauty. Other aspects like being aware of your own person- able to remain intact even if a beautiful girl is rude to you or teasing you. Maybe being able to turn your attraction to them off: so that you could better filter and screen their personality instead. It's a whole game that needs constant skill checks and tests. You never really stop learning how in life as its a constant challenge. Beautiful girls are into pop-culture so you need to move the same.

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Let me tell you all again, DO NOT DATE HIPSTERS.

Hipsters you will never win a conversation with unless you are extremely neurotypical. Go instead for the very thing you thought against, a party girl, as working towards that will lead more results than a hipster.

Hipsters on the other hand are a walking deathmine communication wise, not worth it. What will be up will be down eith them.

>>33623629
hey dude if you're going to spam the same post in every thread can you at least use the same fucking image every time so other users can filter you?

Will model trains help me get a GF? What about RC helicopters?

Also, I am a college kid, but have no clue what people (especially girls) around that age are into and would like to gauge interest of this one girl in me. All I know is that she is a rower and her physical appearance plus major.

>>33627179
>"...Have no clue what people (especially girls) around that age are into..."
Don't worry about that. If you try to impress hipsters you will fuck yourself over and over again. You will never be in the process of things in which your slight misbehavior will be seen as minor ever. Date women who forgive you, who want to have fun with you, and who smile around you. Yeah the hot hipster chick you want is cool and all, but the girl who is happy around you is worth it more. Thr hipster chick may be wearing black and giving badass pseudo intellectual arguments, BUT YOU STILL SHOULD AVOID HER.

what's the minimum height required to get women these days?

>>33627243
If it is a hipster woman it would be picky. Other women not so much.

>>33627205
>hipsters
I have not the foggiest of what you are talking about, she rows and goes to college. Unless hipsters are athletic rowers now, I fail to see the connection. Do you mind clarifying?

>>33627269
When a girl is a hipster. She feels you coming up to her being nice is outdated and too mainstream, so instead of going the usual route, assumes you are sketchy for no reason.

Met a girl in a convenience store. Had a decent convo, she followed me around the store talking to me. We walked out together, I shook her hand and held it for a while, she didn't pull back except her feet when I inched a little closer, so I dropped it. She asked for my insta and I asked her out, but she said she's hanging out with her cousin and will get back to me... today. It's today now. No answer, what do? I was the last to text. Just wait? Forget?

>>33627352
move on and if she gets back to you it's an unexpected bonus
>>33624415
women are more interested in things like social cues and status, focus on maximizing those. all looking better does for a man is increase confidence which makes it more likely you align with good status cues but they're not a requirement

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>>33625569
are you me? I'm in the exact same situation. I think I'd rather be single. She's catching feelings.


I also think I have a slight crush on a blondie, but I have no chance with her unfortunately

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Your crush is out there living her life and enjoying the summer, going out with friends, socializing, having fun, making memories, forging meaningful connections and getting ahead in life. While you are here shitposting about women on a beautiful summer weekend. Any last words anon before you inevitably end it?

I'm pretty happy by myself.
Even if I never meet a woman. At least i've still got me.

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I have a crush on this girl from my gym class. We have spoken a little and i know her for like 2 months. If i want to eventually ask her out, how should i proceed?

>>33625856
>friend zone on purpose
Yeah, as if him or any of you are actually missing out on anything anyway lmao
>>33625881
This

>>33628091
There's more to life
FWIW as long as you're socializing around women you will eventually be some girl's erotic dream, but that girl might not be one you like.

>>33630066
Where can you socialize with women on a regular basis in your mid 20s outside of college?

>>33623610
anyone who recommends dating apps has never actually used them especially this year

>>33630238
Works on my machine

>>33630238
They have been more successful than IRL dating for me.

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Give women autonomy to not like you.

Idk what’s going on with dating apps, both Tinder and hinge show me really hot people that I swipe on knowing they’re probably out of my league and lo and behold I haven’t gotten a match in months

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>>33630796
>Idk what’s going on with dating apps
have you been living under a rock? It's not 2014 anymore when these apps first released- if you haven't noticed, they no longer function as intended for men. They are now mere entertainment for women. If you bothered to check social media, you'd find countless posting about people talking about how useless "dating apps" are today. Most are locked behind ridiculous paywalls and the more insidious ones only work when the algorithm finds you appealing- and that's even after the paywall. You quite literally would have better chances hanging out at your local shopping area in your city- talking to and approaching as many stranger women as you possibly can.

>>33625788
>What the fuck? What did I do?

bet you replied to her messages instantly and gave the impression you're too readily available and as an autist I learned the hard way that we can mistake a woman being polite with flirting

>>33630796
I got a bunch of matches this week more than usual desu. It always comes in waves it feels like
>4 straight up ghosted me
>2 were talking agreed to go out then unmatched next day
>3 I'm kind of chatting with I could ask them out if I want to
>1 wanted to go out with me but turns out she lives an hour away instead of 20 min she said if I go there we can go out but I said nah

>>33625856
>this the type of nigga who puts himself in the friend zone on purpose- thinking girls actually want guy friends around. ngmi bitchmade anon

some girls only like having guy friends because they don't get along with other women

>>33623365
>I've gotten laid a few times but it's from women in chatrooms with slutty names.
All that and you still managed to get laid. What was going through your head then?

I need advice on sex and how to last longer
im a virgin and im losing it to a really nice girl soon, she has a really nice body and i know i wont last long
what are the tips? ive read stuff like the last thing i should be doing is putting the dick inside and isntead i should touch her and basically a lot of foreplay until she begs for dick

>>33631510
Feel comfortable during the sex the best you can. Allow yourself to spend as much time too.

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>>33625796
I got $40k saved, I dont worry about money at all

>>33631510
Accept you won't last long and just do it. Then take a break and do it again. You'll last longer. And again. Last longer still.

>>33627789
>I think I'd rather be single
it kinda sucks after spending 4 years yearning for affection, fantasizing about sex etc. I find my mind wandering during sex though she seems to be enjoying herself. how would you even get a woman to understand that it truly isn't her, it's just that I've spent almost half a decade in complete isolation and have found things to occupy myself with during that time

>I have a slight crush on a blondie
I wonder if once you had her it'd be the same. I wonder if I'm even meant to be in a relationship

>>33623365
>i just can't think of what to say
>but i had a super controlling mom
you're suffering from perfectionism as criticism-avoidance. you want to believe you can do something "perfectly" to avoid rejection or awkwardness. that's why you need the right thing to say and why you freeze up. there's nothing wrong with you, it's a perfectly normal reaction to a controlling mom. but you do have to train yourself out of it if you want results, and you do have to be open to people who are telling you that yes, you do have to make each interaction feel like less of a devastating critique from mom

i recommend a book called psycho-cybernetics. it contains all sorts of tips for practicing things just like this, and doing so in a low-pressure way so you don't feel so judgmental about yourself.

one technique in particular: being like a baseball player whose only focus isn't to hit a home run, but to just make the bat contact the ball. lower your standards for what is "good" to say by making a new criteria for success: whether or not you said anything at all. eventually, that feeling of "winning" will build and if you successfully rewire yourself into believing "talking = success," you'll notice the best things to say slide out of you automatically. there never was a thing to say. there was just a way to be. best of luck anon

>>33622117
What's with women who complain about there not being any good men ignoring good men when they enter their lives?

>>33631916
like are they are stupid and continue to do foolish things even though they know they are wrong? I matched with this girl and we exchanged social media and talked about music (i even made a playlist for her) but then she ignored that I had even did that and then started re-posting shit about how dating sites are like sifting through garbage

>>33631936
girls that have spent any amount of time on the apps are fried, possibly irreparably. this is by design.

>>33631025
Not at all, I try not to do that on purpose to pretend like I'm busy, but sometimes it's instant sometimes it's hours

I really don't 'get' women

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>>33631916
>What's with women who complain about there not being any good men
this is a common hilarious trope today that is constantly being posted about on all social media. What they really mean is
>where is that Chad Prince Charming like all the romance TV shows and movies I watched
>and why are they not talking to me like they used to when I was in my 20's
these women missed the boat and are just adding years now. They were foolish and fell for the Jewish feminist "careerist woman" meme. Now they are all just finding out no man wants a confrontational, old hag of a woman. Even if they met a Chad Prince Charming their age, those guys dont date old women.

>>33632678
Try dating women with easier implicit signs. A straightforward woman has reassuring direct indirect language. Try dating a sexy blue collar girlfriend for example.

>>33632965
I think there’s a lot of socials factors that contribute to that. I don’t know what a woman having a career has to do with being Jewish people. You sound like one of those psychos who believes The Protocols of The Elders of Zion. Anyways, femicide rates are sky rocketing worldwide and women have a much higher rate of being killed by a (ex)partner or spouse. I think that contributes to the sentiment that there’s not good men today. As well as the rise in inceldom and alt-right ideology which is not particularly respectful to women and tends to make sweeping statements about them as a whole. However, that’s not really new. Some men have been doing that since recorded history. There’s still plenty of good men out there though.

>>33623610
>>33630421
dating apps are rigged. there is absolutely an algorithm. even the iranian dating app, sheytoon, makes it so after your last swipe, they show the profile of a stereotypically attractive woman to make you pay more money, then you don't get matched. you're paying to get teased, but worse than a strip club. at least as the strip club you actually get to see tits and ass

it is a fucking scam

>>33631025
>thinking men are the problem when women see that a man is available for them

>>33627776
I texted after 3 days of silence. She responded immediately.
Here's the texts after she said she'd tell me her availability later:
>Me: sounds good, try xxx food while you're there
>Her later that day: I just had x it was so good
>Me a day later: You'd love xfood then
3 days
>Me: I caught you looking (she watched my story, also saw my message)
>Her: yeah that food is kinda mid desu
>Me: Good, I have something better
>Silence for 4 hours
Shes travelling so it makes sense.
Yet, I'm here on adv asking about it, so I know as a rule this is a lost cause. I don't go on adv when my sex life is going well. Hell I don't even go on the internet.

Do you guys recommend hiring prostitutes?

>>33632965
I'll take one of the middle, with a side salad.

>>33627798
>beautiful summer weekend.
but…it’s monday

>>33631915
>you're suffering from perfectionism as criticism-avoidance. you want to believe you can do something "perfectly" to avoid rejection or awkwardness.
eyy, itsa mee
>book
sounds interesting, at least the example technique sounds valid, since I've been doing that for a while

>>33633869
For what?

>>33631029
>It always comes in waves it feels like
This, funny how that works. Almost makes you feel as if Tinder "let's you out" every so often and then starves you

I don’t like dating apps because I see girls that I think are “ugly” but I bet I’d fall for them if we met irl and they were nice

How to turn the conversation into something sexual / to turn her on?
I know the basics, like try to touch her lightly like her hands and stuff but theres gotta be something else
i want to put the thought of "sex" in her mind
Eye contact, smiles and flirt, i guess?

>>33626822
This is more than I could ask for, thank you severely for this.


>Maybe being able to turn your attraction to them off: so that you could better filter and screen their personality instead

I do understand what you mean by turning your attraction to them off as personality is what's the most important to me. I do not care for random women who just so happen to look beautiful because without personality they are just a hollow husk. However I do want to have courage to talk to someone I genuinely like, it just takes some time of me having my "stalking" phase at gym or elsewhere aka just getting comfortable and confident enough to finally get to talk to her.
I still remember having a high school crush, taking about few weeks of courage and then finally befriending her only to find out she's straight up a boring person and not interested.
It's a very important lesson to learn that there isn't JUST ONE woman in the world, there are literally numerous but at first we don't really know that.

My problem is just that I don't really know how to properly approach. I need to use the environment to ask out to not give it away that I really just like them.
Does cold approaching even work? The classic "Hey I think you're beautiful and I'd like to get to know you" - doesn't it just give them the creeps since they don't know you at all?
I feel like it's just less romantic and better if you help someone out once their groceries fall, having some sort of proper opener.

What’s the best way I can start dating a woman who’s 5+ years older than me?

>>33622117
You never forget the smart girls..

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It's funny, the only thing stopping me from committing suicide is the desire to lose my virginity, I need to find out what sex is like first

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>>33633148
>femicide rates are sky rocketing worldwide and women have a much higher rate of being killed by a (ex)partner or spouse
so how is not a sweeping generalization? Men being violent? You're probably one of those who would say they would choose a wild animal like a bear instead of man. Delusional.
>As well as the rise in inceldom and alt-right ideology
millions of men around the world are wrong and you are right? Calling them derogatory terms because you don't agree with their ideals is what made them to begin with. Stay seething.
>There’s still plenty of good men out there though.
in your perspective, its men who are weak, frail, emasculated and willing to put up with your bullshit like paying all your bills while you put him aside to bang Tyrone in his own home. Sad really. Then you wonder why they act the way they do and no longer want to date women like that. It's hilarious when you see some 38 year old woman on Tiktok crying she can't get any men because she was a slut in her 20's. Can't hide this anymore when millions around the globe see disgusting modern women and how they act.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6sJwUkTjUA

>>33626822
>Beautiful girls are into pop-culture so you need to move the same.
What do you mean

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>got called a bitchass nigga by female associates at work the other day(I'm security at a warehouse)
>I write it up and send it to my manager instead of saying shit back in the moment
>get regularly ignored or cussed at by people
>keep to myself, just doing my job, but no one gives a shit if they think you're some mute autist
How fucked am I at nearly 30? It's like getting bullied in middle school all over again, but way worse since we're all "adults"

>>33635268
You have hands and free will.

>>33635512
Ok..What do I specifically use them for in my situation?

>>33622117
Went into this weekend 100% focused on wife with affection, intimacy, etc. Wife barely initiated touch or affection while we were out. Basically I did all the initial flirting, affection, and touching. Eventually I emotionally checked out and started checking out other girls due to no reciprocation. 2hrs in we run into her coworker who is very attractive 23yr old. The girl just straight up stared into my eyes the entire time and glowed like the sun. Is this what I need to do going forward to gain more respect from my wife? Nothing else has worked this well.

I also kind of want this girl now too the interest felt so good. It's also crazy how you can only focus on your girl for so long and receive nothing back or initiated. Like I couldn't even help but check out other women once the loss of interest was felt.

>>33635635
Meant to add that she started giving me a lot of affection and touching after this interaction with her coworker. Went from 0 to 100 but most of my interest was lost and now focused on the new girl.

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Is this chart legit? iirc it was from a 2023 survey on 5000 americans

>>33634721
Don't
They're a hassle

>>33631510
Fleshlight + actually lose your virginity to a hooker first so you'll lose the fear

>>33627243
1.8m no matter the cunt

>>33635584
Crash out and start fighting

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Imagine trying to get a girlfriend in 2025